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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: We are in the eve of.

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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh game, preseason game two for the Texans. Most

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Speaker 1: of the league playing this week, couple of games tonight,

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Speaker 1: most everyone playing Friday Saturday. I think there's something Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Who cares. It's the Texans and the Steelers six o'clock

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Speaker 1: on Friday Night, live right here and on ABC thirteen

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Speaker 1: as Kevin Kugler nd Kalu. John Harris will be in

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Speaker 1: the booth Shelby Coppage on the sideline. Looking forward to

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Speaker 1: the TV broadcast. I'll watch it later because I'll be

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Speaker 1: on the air with Andre and Robert Hensley, and we'll

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Speaker 1: be having fun, even though we don't have Johnny Harris

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Speaker 1: with us, but we do have the General tonight, John

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Speaker 1: McClain General. Good evening. Training camp on the road this

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Speaker 1: week Texans on the road again for preseason game two.

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Speaker 1: How's it going.

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Speaker 3: It's going great. I always liked every preseason game because

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Speaker 3: it puts us closer to start a regular season. I

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Speaker 3: was thinking, start this season this weekend and get on

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Speaker 3: with it. But of course it's important to Minigo. Ryans

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Speaker 3: and his coaches loved Devin that first game being able

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Speaker 3: to see a lot of players, especially on defense where

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Speaker 3: they brought in so many free agents five to nine

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Speaker 3: draft choices. On defense, they'll play the starters a little still,

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Speaker 3: a lot of starters will not play because they've got injuries.

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Speaker 3: And I'm writing a column for Houston Texans dot com

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Speaker 3: about the offensive line where they continue to have injuries.

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Speaker 3: Had more injuries than any team in the NFL my

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Speaker 3: offensive line last season, including starting seven eleven linemen, eleven

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Speaker 3: different linemen, and when you think about it, is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 3: They went ten and seven with all those injury issues.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know, general, if that is stopping anytime soon,

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Speaker 4: especially this Friday, because more than likely Larry Tunzell will

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Speaker 4: definitely be out. He has not practiced yet. I would

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Speaker 4: imagine Titus Howard probably, and then there were a couple

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Speaker 4: other linemen that sat out to practice on Wednesday in Ohio,

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Speaker 4: the offense line. So I know that's going to be

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Speaker 4: one area of focus. But what else are you focused on? General?

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Speaker 4: During the game against Pittsburgh, there will be some Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: Stars not playing, to TJ Wat's not playing, Alex Heisman

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Speaker 4: not playing, amongst others, Russell Wilson not playing. But what

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Speaker 4: else is kind of in your general I focus for

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Speaker 4: the game against Pittsburgh, even.

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Speaker 3: Though the Joe Mixon's out and they don't need Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 3: They need Joe Mixon for the Colts the first week

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Speaker 3: and he's been around long enough and he's out there

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Speaker 3: watching and getting healthy. So the running game, you know,

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Speaker 3: the reason they got Mixon is they want to run

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Speaker 3: the ball better, and that's one of the reasons they've

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Speaker 3: beefed up their offensive line. I think Fisher's done really

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Speaker 3: well right now, Charlie exert again. Fisher's gonna tell you

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Speaker 3: right now, and y'all know this. If Fisher's not a starter,

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Speaker 3: he's going to be the swing tackle and eventually he's

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Speaker 3: it never comes out and he's getting all that great

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Speaker 3: experience at left tackle and plays of Laramie Ton, so

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Speaker 3: he doesn't need all this time. So even though they

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Speaker 3: run the ball. Better. They want to get in a

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Speaker 3: during the offseason acquisitions and also in preseason and training.

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Speaker 1: Camp general training camp on the road and I speak

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Speaker 1: to Miko ease, I'm learning the language. After yesterday's practice,

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Speaker 1: I felt like, well, it was obvious he loves being away.

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Speaker 1: He loves being sequestered with the team, the bonding that

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Speaker 5: The weather it was terrific. That's a factor.

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Speaker 1: But also being away, I think primarily because that's how

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Speaker 1: you bond as a team.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and every year I covered the NFL with the Oilers,

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Speaker 3: there were fewer reasons to go on the road. Does

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Speaker 3: a study, but I'm giving no. Do the players need

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Speaker 3: when they went to the Greenbrier in twenty seventeen and eighteen,

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Speaker 3: three years in a row, three consecutive losing seasons. They

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Speaker 3: Rick Smith wanted to go. They did. Bill O'Brien didn't

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Speaker 3: like it. Bob McNair loved it. Cal McNair loved it,

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Speaker 3: Of something that Nick ca Sario or Demiko Ryans thinks

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Speaker 4: Get asked this question a lot, so I'm gonna ask you.

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Speaker 4: And you're a Baylor alum, so I know you like

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Speaker 4: talking about Jalen Petree. We all like talking about Jalen Petree.

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Speaker 4: We all loved Jalen Petree. How important is this a

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Speaker 4: And was a litle bit of a struggle last year,

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Speaker 4: but now he might end up playing more nickel than

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Speaker 4: he plays safety. How do you kind of look at

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Speaker 4: Jalen Petrie's role in his importance for this defense in

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Speaker 3: The way he is playing now is the way he

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Speaker 3: played Baylor when he was a Big twelve Defensive Player

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Speaker 3: so I don't know what's taking him so long here,

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Speaker 3: And I thought it was interesting that the talk coming

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Speaker 3: out of USC was he's not physical. He's the center fielder.

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Speaker 3: He's got a lot of he can run, he can

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Speaker 3: a physical play in forces of bumble. And that's what

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Speaker 3: the coaches want to see because you guys know, if

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Speaker 3: that doubles your pleasure. So I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: General, who's going to finish Which side of the ball

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Speaker 1: will finish with the higher ranking? Will it be offense

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Speaker 1: or defense? They both made great improvement last year, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but we're talking about top ten, top five here. Who's

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Speaker 1: going to finish with the higher statistical rating offense or

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Speaker 3: If it's not the offense, they're going to have a problem,

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Speaker 3: because right now realistically, all the starters are set. If

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Speaker 3: Kenyon Green can stay healthy and keep playing, you know

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Speaker 3: who the offensive lineman will be. We know who the

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Speaker 3: Injuries are gonna tell that tale. But they're set and

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Speaker 3: they got a lot of talent. Where the defense, it

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Speaker 3: needs two new tackles. You know they were counting on

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Speaker 3: Denico Autrey. He's out for six games with his suspension.

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Speaker 3: They got bulletin at safety, they had injuries. It's safety

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Speaker 3: to everybody but Jalen Petrie. They need Christian Harris to

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Speaker 3: where he did at the end of the last season.

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Speaker 3: They got a new cause he's Al Shahir at linebackers,

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Speaker 3: so they have they have they'll have two new starters.

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Speaker 3: Let's see. Let's see two at tackled. Danielle Hunter is

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Speaker 3: a new one. That's three. Al Shayer is four, and

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing they're not gonna have a new safety. But

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Speaker 3: they'll have five because Kamari Lassen is gonna start opposite

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Speaker 3: Derek Stingley Junior. So with five new starters on defense,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say defense will be improved. But considering the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 4: General, I'm on a record as saying I think the

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Speaker 4: interior defensive line for the Texans is wildly underrated. I

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Speaker 4: feel like Khalil Davis has started to really emerge as

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Speaker 4: you feel better about it than you thought? Or do

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Speaker 4: you feel like, well, you know, it still has to

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you think it's underrated because you've watched him

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Speaker 3: up close and personal. I would encourage everybody to read

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Speaker 3: in games, Khalil Davis was a huge surprise last year

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Speaker 3: because we've talked about this a lot. He made a

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Speaker 3: if he may have more opportunities he'd make more plays. Well,

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Speaker 3: there wasn't the opportunities that he hoped because you had

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Speaker 3: and they played well. Now they're gone, and the opportunity

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Speaker 3: for him is there. Philip Philicassi, you know he's a

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Speaker 3: against the run. The key is and Autrey will be

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Speaker 3: when he comes back in passing situations he would move

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Speaker 3: inside of Now, who are going to be the two

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Speaker 3: pass rushers? And I gotta think Davis, the way he

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Speaker 3: if they stay up guys going into their second year.

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Speaker 3: But they certainly got a lot of options. And if

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Speaker 3: Demiko Ryans and Matt Burt didn't think they could make

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Speaker 3: it work with these guys, they wouldn't have traded Malay

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Speaker 3: Sheldon Rankins. They offered him a big race, but he

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Speaker 3: got like four million more a year to go to Sincy.

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Speaker 3: You know, they stole DJ Raider and they stole Sheldon Rankins,

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Speaker 3: but they could have give him. So if Casario and

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Speaker 3: Ryan's and Burt think they're in good shape, that's good enough.

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Speaker 3: Oh and John Harris, that's good enough for me.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the AFC South beat here, general,

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Speaker 4: but you undersold it. You absolutely understold it. It's one

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Speaker 3: Brees is a first ballot. You know Drew Brees is

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Speaker 3: a no brainer. And do you put Eli Manning in

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Speaker 3: the same category as Drew Brees.

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Speaker 1: Nobody ever did when they were playing. To your point,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Manning was ever one of the top

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Speaker 1: three players at his position, maybe even top four or

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Speaker 1: five when he played in the league, although you give

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Speaker 1: him his due for the Super Bowls. General, what can

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Speaker 1: you tell us about what you're working on? What else

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Speaker 1: as far as when the Texans get back. They're playing

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Speaker 1: a preseason game against Pittsburgh tomorrow. They've got the Giants

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Speaker 1: next week. We know you're writing for Houston Texans to as.

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Speaker 3: I have that behind the scenes with Andre Johnson. Then

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Speaker 3: I have the one with JJ Watt, and I'm writing

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Speaker 3: about for Friday, the offensive line and especially Fisher, how

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Speaker 3: happy everybody is with Fisher. And then I can't wait

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Speaker 3: till they get it back next week, start practice and

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Speaker 3: then play their first preseason game. Two preseason games at noon.

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Speaker 3: That's the same time they start some games in the

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Speaker 3: past at the same time they started all games. This

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Speaker 3: year is a little different with all their primetime games.

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Speaker 3: But I just want to get to the start of

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Speaker 3: the regular season and a game against Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: All right, General, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys very much.

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Speaker 1: As always, that's John McClain from Houston Texans dot Com

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Speaker 1: and various other things as we join with him Thursdays

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Speaker 1: now coming up, John Harris answers either or questions. I've

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Speaker 1: got some good ones related tomorrow night and the regular season,

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Speaker 1: and then some It's all happening here on texts radio.

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Speaker 1: Still on the road and ready to rock for tomorrow

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Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh and the Steel City. Cannot wait for the

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Speaker 1: second preseason adding for your Houston Texans. Mark Vandermer and

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you. Let's get into some I gotta

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Speaker 1: pope Pirie here, Johnny, I've got a Schmorgan's board of

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Speaker 1: questions for you. Got either or I got more likely

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Speaker 1: to happen? I gotta I'm mixing them all together here

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Speaker 1: because we're on the road and it's time to mix. Okay,

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Speaker 1: either or will you have to choose one? You get

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Speaker 1: one of these things. I am gonna make you a deal.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you one of these things for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty fourth Houston Texans in the regular season. They

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Speaker 1: will have a team record of rushing yards, so a

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Speaker 1: team best of rushing yards, however it comes out, okay,

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Speaker 1: Or you get the number one defense in the league. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you choose the number one defense, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how many rushing yards are gonna get. You're just gonna

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Speaker 1: have to take whatever happens. If you choose the rushing

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Speaker 1: yards record, you gotta take whatever happens on defense.

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Speaker 5: What are you picking right now?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say rushing yardage, as crazy as that sounds,

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Speaker 4: because I do think that this defense will be top.

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Speaker 2: Five at a minimum. I do think this defense has.

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Speaker 4: Got the elite players it needs to have, It has

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Speaker 4: the playmakers it needs to have. It has a defensive

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Speaker 4: line that, if healthy, I think can be game changing.

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Speaker 2: So I think that group.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to take it for granted, of course,

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Speaker 4: but I think that group could be in the top

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Speaker 4: five regardless.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if that is the case with

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Speaker 2: the rushing game.

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Speaker 4: I do think the rushing game will be improved, but

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Speaker 4: if you're telling me that they are going to be.

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Speaker 1: Improved plus plus.

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Speaker 4: In the running game, forget it. I mean, because I

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Speaker 4: think this defense is already that good. And if you

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden put that kind of running game

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Speaker 4: with what we think is going to be a.

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Speaker 2: Stout passing game, to me, that's the way I go.

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Speaker 4: I typically I would say, oh, yeah, number one defense,

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Speaker 4: but I think this defense will be that good anyways,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it needs to lock that in

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Speaker 4: because I don't know if I feel quite that way

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Speaker 4: at the running game. In fact, i'd be the thing

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Speaker 4: that I kind of point out. I was thinking about

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Speaker 4: the open to the game. This running game needs to

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Speaker 4: get better. Even the other night against the Bears, there

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Speaker 4: were some bright moments, but it hasn't been consistent enough.

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Speaker 5: When you look at the yard per carry, it's that's right,

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Speaker 5: it's not great.

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Speaker 4: A couple of pops boom boom, and that almost makes up,

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Speaker 4: you know, a good forty to fifty percent of the

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Speaker 4: yard age. And you gotta be more consistent. Now there's

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Speaker 4: no Joe Mixon, there's no Gamian Pier So I get it.

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Speaker 5: I understand.

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Speaker 2: And you didn't have the entire first line like I

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Speaker 2: get all of that. I understand. And the presence of

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Speaker 2: CJ this year, I think, is going.

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Speaker 4: To force a lot of teams to play us with

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Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of nickel, a lot of

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Speaker 4: penny fronts where they're playing you know, five dbs with

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Speaker 4: just one.

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Speaker 2: Linebacker, a nickel linebacker instead.

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Speaker 5: Of a regular line penny front.

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Speaker 2: Is this penny?

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Speaker 1: There's nickel, there's way hen dollar, nickel and dime? Yes,

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Speaker 1: have I heard penny? Why is this not ringing big

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Speaker 1: bells with me?

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Speaker 4: You know who played penny against us a lot was

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Speaker 4: the Washington Commanders back in twenty two. They played basically

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Speaker 4: five down linemen, one linebacker, and then everybody else's dbs.

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Speaker 5: That's a penny front.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a penny front. Yep, that's a penny yep.

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Speaker 1: My gosh, what do we have a silver dollar? Do

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Speaker 1: we have a Kruger rang? What else do we need?

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Speaker 5: But I felt like it.

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Speaker 4: Was a really good front to play against us at

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Speaker 4: the time because they had five really good lives. So

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Speaker 4: basically we were playing five on five with the offensive

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Speaker 4: line and then a linebacker kind of freed to run

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Speaker 4: the ball, and then if you were gonna throw it,

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Speaker 4: you had a nickel defensive back that was playing next

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Speaker 4: to the linebacker.

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Speaker 2: And I thought Washington played it really well. They weren't

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Speaker 2: the only team to do it that year to.

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Speaker 4: Us, But I've seen that front a lot more throughout

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Speaker 4: the league, and I think it's a good I think

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Speaker 4: it's a good front. But if you throw the ball,

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Speaker 4: I think you got to get out of it a

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Speaker 4: little bit more.

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Speaker 2: So that'll be said.

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Speaker 4: I just think this run game, if he can, if

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Speaker 4: he can produce at that high a level, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: get the defense.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with the run game.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna go with the run game. The general,

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Speaker 1: when I asked him, would he take the offense or

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Speaker 1: defense improving him? Oh? No, I said, which is more

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Speaker 1: likely to happen to him? Offense or defense improving more?

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Speaker 1: He thought, the offense has to and I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: this defense, it's okay if the offense is tenth in

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Speaker 1: the league. I think the defense, I agree with you,

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Speaker 1: is going to make a lot of noise and they're

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Speaker 1: not getting the pub right now because it's not the

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Speaker 1: sexy stuff to a lot of people. All right, next

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Speaker 1: question for you, this is more likely to happen, so

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Speaker 1: more likely to happen for twenty twenty four Derek Stingley

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Speaker 1: Junior five or more interceptions because he had five last year.

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Speaker 5: Joe Mixon eleven hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: More likely to happen Stingley five or more picks, Joe

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Speaker 1: Mixon eleven hundred or more yards.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with mixing eleven hundred yards.

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Speaker 4: And the reason I say that is I think that teams.

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Speaker 2: Learned last year. You know what, We're gonna take our

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Speaker 2: chances throwing somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we We challenged him, and he rose to the challenge.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think teams are gonna throw in his

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Speaker 4: direction all that much.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those things where the good corners

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Speaker 1: off and don't get thrown on as much and they

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Speaker 1: don't get the picks.

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of the way I see you with staying.

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Speaker 4: I think teams they might learn their lesson, They might

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Speaker 4: throw to them earlier in the year and test them

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Speaker 4: a little bit, and it's like, yeah, we probably shouldn't

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Speaker 4: do that, so let's throw to somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Hey who's And again, you've got a rookie.

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Speaker 4: Even though I think Kamari Lasser is a tremendous football player,

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Speaker 4: it's still a rookie that more than likely you're throwing against.

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Speaker 2: Or it's CJ.

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Speaker 4: Henderson or Jeff Acuda, you know, guys that are still

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Speaker 4: trying to find their footing four years into the league,

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Speaker 4: five years into the league. So at that point, it's

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Speaker 4: got to be it's got to be Mixing's eleven hundred

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Speaker 4: yards because I could see the run game improving.

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Speaker 2: I had Joe has been.

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Speaker 4: Durable, even though he has not practiced this training camp much,

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Speaker 4: he has been durable during seasons, and so you got

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Speaker 4: to feel like all right let yards over sixteen seventeen games,

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Speaker 4: you're talking about sixty to seven yards a game.

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Speaker 2: Could we get that from Joe? Yeah, I think we can.

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Speaker 4: Then I think there're gonna be games one hundred plus

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Speaker 4: you get that pop too.

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Speaker 2: So I think eleven hundred yards is definitely doable.

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Speaker 4: I think five picks for sting is gonna be really,

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Speaker 4: really tough because teams just won't if they're smart, they're

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Speaker 4: not gonna throw it in.

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Speaker 2: And I hope they're not smart.

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Speaker 4: I hope they just say he's not that good and

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Speaker 4: good throw it because he'll he'll make them pay.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the next one. In this game,

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Speaker 1: pick your stat. X leads the team and receiving again

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Speaker 1: or JJ Taylor leads the team in rushing yards. This

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Speaker 1: is against Pittsburgh on Friday Night, which is I guess

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Speaker 1: more likely to happen. Xavier Hutchinson leads the way and

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Speaker 1: receiving could be receptions and or yards or JJ Taylor

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Speaker 1: in rushing yards. And I know the rushing thing is

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Speaker 1: almost more difficult to predict because it's such a such

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Speaker 1: an assortment here that you're gonna throw at the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers on Friday Night, including Damian Pierce to start out

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 4: I would presume I'm gonna go with X leading and

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Speaker 4: receiving again. I'm curious to see what his rep count is,

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Speaker 4: his snap count is in this game, because he's gotten

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Speaker 4: a lot of He got a lot of snaps against

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Speaker 4: the Bears. On me out, I think almost the first half,

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Speaker 4: first half, it's worth yeah, obviously gonna Well, it sounds

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Speaker 4: like coaches talked about playing starters.

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Speaker 2: So how much is Nico tank digs? How much do

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Speaker 2: they get?

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Speaker 1: Not much?

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Speaker 4: But then you gotta bridge the gap. If they're not

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Speaker 4: getting much, you gotta bridge the gap the rest of

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Speaker 4: the way. So that means Hutchinson, Sims, Skronic, Johnson, Johnson,

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Speaker 4: You're gonna get a lot of guys some reps.

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Speaker 2: But I still feel like those guys are gonna be

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Speaker 2: rotating in.

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Speaker 4: For the next three quarters, and so I think you're

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Speaker 4: gonna get a significant number of reps for a hutch

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much how many touches you mean

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Speaker 4: you like to get all these running backs touches, but

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Speaker 4: maybe Pierce gets a few, and then after that it's

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Speaker 4: probably two three at the most.

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Speaker 2: I think for the rest of the guys.

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Speaker 4: Now that also could lead to winning this with a

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Speaker 4: technicality that JJ has three carries for seventeen yards and

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Speaker 4: that leads the team because they're just trying to spread

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Speaker 4: out the carries andmoks those running backs are trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Wow, they're gonna carry? Which guy steps up?

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Speaker 4: You know one guy that Tmika Riot's talked a lot

652
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Speaker 4: about this week was Juar. Jordan said he had his

653
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Speaker 4: best week in camp, and I think that the eye

654
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Speaker 4: test tells you that. I thought that Juar had a

655
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Speaker 4: really good week running football. So if he is getting

656
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Speaker 4: a few more carries, you know, maybe he leads in rushing.

657
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Speaker 4: But I still think X is that guy that Davis

658
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Speaker 4: Case and Tim like to throw to.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I've got a weird one for you right here.

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Speaker 1: For twenty twenty four regular season, who will have more

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Speaker 1: rushing yards Anthony Richardson or whoever gets the second most

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Speaker 1: carries for the Houston Texans. Now this might sound a

663
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Speaker 1: little funny, but I think Richardson is in good shape.

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Speaker 1: If he plays fifteen or more.

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Speaker 5: Games, I think is in good shape to rush for

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Speaker 5: five six hundred yards. I think that's what he's gonna do.

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Speaker 1: So the question is, does the Damian Pierce or whoever

668
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Speaker 1: the second back might be for the Texans, because look,

669
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Speaker 1: maybe cam Aker is emerges.

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Speaker 5: Who knows, maybe mixing is not healthy. I hope he is.

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Speaker 1: But whatever the case may be, I guess you'd have

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Speaker 1: to say the second back for the Texans if you

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Speaker 1: have any kind of optimism whatsoever.

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Speaker 5: But I just bring it up because I think Anthony

675
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Speaker 5: Richardson's going to run the ball a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, and I think that's what

677
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Speaker 4: he defaults to at this particular time. Now, I do

678
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Speaker 4: feel like Richardson's gonna try and prove, hey, a, I

679
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Speaker 4: can sit in a pocket, and I think they're gonna

680
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Speaker 4: want him to try and stay in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: But let's just take let's take justin fields for instance.

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Speaker 5: Well, he had a lot of yards he did.

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Speaker 2: He got man, he.

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Speaker 5: Had a lot of running.

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Speaker 1: Here's up there with the running backs, the really good

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Speaker 1: running backs in the league.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so the first year you only played ten, played

688
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Speaker 4: twelve games, he ran seventy two times for four hundred

689
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Speaker 4: and twenty yards.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two. He had one hundred and sixty.

691
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Speaker 4: Rushing attempts for a hundred sorry, one hundred and sixty

692
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Speaker 4: rushing attempts for eleven hundred and forty three yards.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we take that from Joe and the average

695
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Speaker 4: of that is incredible.

696
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 5: The average is amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's over seven.

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Speaker 1: No, you take it, you take it all day long.

699
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Speaker 4: Now, last year he had one hundred and twenty four

700
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Speaker 4: attempts six hundred and fifty seven yards.

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Speaker 1: So my point in that is, and they were second

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Speaker 1: in the league running the football.

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Speaker 4: If Anthony Richardson is going to play, say fifteen games,

704
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Speaker 4: I don't think he gets eleven hundred yards, but I

705
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Speaker 4: do think there's a good chance he gets to seven

706
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Speaker 4: hundred eight hundred, okay, and I think that's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be a little bit higher than what the second

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Speaker 2: back gets.

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Speaker 4: Could you, you know, mixing for eleven fifty Damien for

710
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Speaker 4: seven to twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Would you live with that all day?

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Speaker 5: Like that all long because there's a third guy getting

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Speaker 5: some yards too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And CJ is not gonna rush for much. You don't

716
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Speaker 1: want him to. But that's pretty healthy right there. Those

717
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Speaker 1: numbers you laid out. If somebody's getting eleven hundred, somebody's

718
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Speaker 1: getting seven hundred, Yes, all day long. I'll take that

719
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Speaker 1: over whatever is behind door number two. Okay, here's another one.

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Speaker 1: More games played in twenty twenty four. Will Levis or

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. I think this is a good one. Who

722
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Speaker 1: is going to play more games.

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Speaker 4: Both of their styles lead to getting banged up more

724
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Speaker 4: than they should. But I think Richardson having had this surgery,

725
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Speaker 4: finally having that surgery, I think they probably had to

726
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Speaker 4: sit down with him and say, look, we want to

727
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Speaker 4: run you, but the overall style has got to change.

728
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Speaker 4: You can't take on linebackers all the time. You got

729
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: to change your style. Levi's style is still to run

730
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Speaker 4: over linebackers and to hold the ball too long. That's

731
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Speaker 4: the other thing I think could get Levis hurt. It

732
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Speaker 4: got him hurt against us. Yeah, he held the ball

733
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Speaker 4: too long now is off. Its line wasn't great and

734
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Speaker 4: receivers weren't really getting open.

735
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Speaker 1: That's worse than running, because running you can often direct how.

736
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Speaker 2: You're going to go down.

737
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Speaker 1: Ball too long, you get these these unanticipated collisions.

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Speaker 4: If one thing Richardson does that, I don't want to

739
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Speaker 4: say it's great, but I think it's it's better. Is

740
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Speaker 4: he doesn't tend to hold the ball too long. He's

741
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Speaker 4: going to make a decision. He'll he might spray it,

742
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 4: but he's gonna make a decision rather quickly. Levis will

743
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 4: hold the ball way too long, and sometimes that benefits him.

744
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Speaker 4: I remember the Money Night game against Miami. There were

745
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: so many times when Miami defenders were about to get

746
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Speaker 4: the sack and then boom, he get it out the

747
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Speaker 4: last second.

748
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Speaker 2: But against Us there were times where he held it

749
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Speaker 2: and held it sacked. How many sacks did he have?

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Speaker 2: The how many sacks do we have of him? In

751
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Speaker 2: the two games he played?

752
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Speaker 4: He even finished the second game, so it was like

753
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: fourteen sacks or something like that. So him holding the ball,

754
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: to me, it's just gonna lead to more and more injuries.

755
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Speaker 2: More being backed up.

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Speaker 4: I think Levis is the one that probably is gonna

757
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Speaker 4: miss more games, play fewer games.

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Speaker 5: All right, So where does Watson stack up with them?

759
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Speaker 5: I know we don't play the Browns, but we love

760
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 5: to talk about this stuff.

761
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Speaker 2: But it's been interesting to be up here. How about

762
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Speaker 2: that radio as we didn't talk about this.

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Speaker 4: I listened to a radio show before we did radio

764
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Speaker 4: last night, and I was driving back and went to Marshall's,

765
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Speaker 4: got a couple of things, had to get back, so

766
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Speaker 4: I listen.

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Speaker 2: It's probably a good fifteen twenty minutes.

768
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Speaker 4: And the entirest time going there and coming back was

769
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Speaker 4: all about the Sean And man, you talk about a

770
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Speaker 4: conflicted fan base.

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Speaker 5: Oh hopefully you talk to here.

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Speaker 1: Everybody asks me when they find out that you're with

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Speaker 1: the Texans.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think of him?

775
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: Right?

776
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Speaker 5: And you can feel the conflict that the fans have here.

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Speaker 2: I mean they love the Browns up here. I mean

778
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: they love them. I mean they they'll all tell you.

779
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Speaker 4: I mean to one guy actually at at Tom Benson

780
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame Stadium and we got to talking about it,

781
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: and he was just like, you know, ah, a Browns

782
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: fan and.

783
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: You know, loyal to the day I die.

784
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Speaker 4: But you can just kind of tell there's this this

785
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: you know, kind of this resolve.

786
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Speaker 2: I'm a Browns fan.

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Speaker 4: It just never goes well for us sort of thing, right,

788
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Speaker 4: And yeah, I feel for him in some sense.

789
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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, they've got to.

790
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Speaker 4: They gotta deal with this situation. And he's coming off

791
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: a shoulder surgery and so I just I'm not totally

792
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: convinced coming off of shoulder surgery, years after an ACL,

793
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Speaker 4: years after another ACL.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's just got beaten up. And now he's

795
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Speaker 2: what thirty.

796
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Speaker 4: I think he turned twenty two his rookie year in

797
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Speaker 4: twenty four, so he's twenty nine thirty.

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Speaker 2: He has played eleven games in two years.

799
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Speaker 4: The last game he played against the Ravens, there was

800
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Speaker 4: at least some promise he got hot.

801
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: In the second half, but it was really kind of

802
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: dinking and duncan.

803
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Speaker 1: Stuff hang their hat on that oo and well, I've

804
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: always felt for them in a way, but now it's

805
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: a completely different situation.

806
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Speaker 5: Once he went here and the trade and all of that.

807
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: But being up here, you do feel the passion that

808
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: the people have for this team, but they are conflicted

809
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: about the quarterback because of his past. And interestingly enough,

810
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: we were at Nick Cassario's high school for Texans practice

811
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: and his house is just beyond the trees because it's

812
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: a really clive neighborhood.

813
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: See the roof.

814
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's incredible he lives right there.

815
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Speaker 1: So I don't don't It's okay, that's probably not a

816
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: good idea for right now, but we'll see how that goes.

817
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: Because he's got to stay healthy for them. Now, the

818
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: Texans don't have them on the schedule, but this is

819
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: a team, the Cleveland Browns, They're loaded. I mean, they

820
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: should be considered a tender and nobody talks about them.

821
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Speaker 1: If he does stay in look if they if he

822
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Speaker 1: stays healthy and plays remotely, well, look at what they

823
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: did with Joe Flacco last year. Even in the game

824
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: where the Browns torched the Texans at NRG late in

825
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: the regular season Christmas, Flacco is still through two picks.

826
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Speaker 1: You know, you just couldn't stop Amari Cooper. He was

827
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: in a zone that day. So maybe you see him

828
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs.

829
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Speaker 5: Maybe not.

830
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Speaker 1: I'd love to get to the playoffs and take it

831
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Speaker 1: from there. We'll see anyway. Coming up on the program,

832
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a glimpse of tomorrow night

833
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Houston Texans. That is awesome

834
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Speaker 1: to be playing in Steel City. And Johnny Harris TV

835
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Speaker 1: broadcaster thoughts, it's all coming up here on Texans All

836
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Speaker 1: Access twenty four hours from now. We will be broadcasting

837
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Speaker 1: the Texans and the Pittsburgh Steelers. There's gonna be a

838
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Speaker 1: change on Texans Radio for this game and for the

839
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Speaker 1: next two preseason games afterwards, where Johnny Harris will not

840
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Speaker 1: be on the sideline, and I'm very sad about that.

841
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't normally talk about this, Johnny, but

842
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: you know, these decisions that I make in the offseason sometimes,

843
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, you get to the point of where you

844
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: have to live with that decision and you're thinking, what did.

845
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Speaker 5: I do that for?

846
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Speaker 1: But anyway, but Johnny's gonna be in the booth with

847
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Speaker 1: Indi Kalou and Kevin Kugler, which is awesome because the

848
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: TV broadcast they're going to talk deeply about this team

849
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: as you need to in a preseason context because you're

850
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: going way into the roster. Shelby Coppage will be on

851
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Speaker 1: the sideline. That'll be fun too to see the whole

852
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Speaker 1: gang together. So what do you make of this? I

853
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: know you've done a lot of TV games before, and

854
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Speaker 1: you've obviously done a ton of radio games, but this

855
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Speaker 1: is gonna be cool to be in the booth with

856
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Speaker 1: those guys.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's weird because it's the first game that I

858
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: have not done a broadcast with you wow, for the Texans,

859
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: you know, since I've been on that But You've.

860
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Speaker 1: Worked with Tom Franklin and numerous other play back play guys.

861
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Speaker 4: In college games, and I've done those before, done bowl games,

862
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Speaker 4: and I've worked with some great guys. You mentioned Tom Franklin,

863
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: Brett do Olin was fantastic to do the Texas Bowl

864
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: with the last few years.

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Speaker 2: And and I just.

866
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Speaker 4: I go up and have fun, and hopefully that's what

867
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Speaker 4: it's gonna be with Kevin and Indie.

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Speaker 2: We just have fun. But we give the fans that haven't.

869
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Speaker 4: Had a chance to see him and probably Okay, well

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Speaker 4: number twenty three just made a.

871
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Speaker 2: Play Eric Murray. Okay, let let's talk about Eric Murray.

872
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 4: You know what he's done and what he's done since

873
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 4: he's been here, you know, seeing rookies. You know what, Hey,

874
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: what can you tell me about Solomon Byrd that maybe

875
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 4: people don't know? And we've seen every practice with him,

876
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 4: seen almost every rep these guys have taken. So we've

877
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: gotten to know these guys, you know, intimately in some sense.

878
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 4: And there's always stories that you know, you can share

879
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 4: about things you saw practice, and that's kind of what

880
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: I hope to do, is to add that sort of

881
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 4: color to it. You know, Hey, this guy has had

882
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: a really nice night. Does that follow with what we've

883
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: seen in training camp? Yeah, it absolutely does, and maybe

884
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: that gives him the opportunity the fifty three man roster,

885
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 4: and so hopefully my my role being there is just

886
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: giving the fans, Hey, I like this guy, guy have

887
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 4: a chance to make the team. Can he you know,

888
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: is he gonna be here or is this just kind

889
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: of a one off? It is a really great game

890
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 4: that we should just celebrate what it is. So I'm

891
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 4: just looking forward to being there and you know, adding

892
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: my part to it. But I love Kevin Coogler, I

893
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: love Endy. He's been such a great friend, and I

894
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: love being up there. But it's gonna be weird when

895
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: you know, we're you know, fifteen twenty minutes out and

896
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: I'm so used to you you hearing you in my

897
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: ears as we're watching a Texans game.

898
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 2: It's just gonna be kind of kind of strange.

899
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: But then we'll get back to the regular season for

900
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 4: Colts and then we'll rock on and go to.

901
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 5: The Super Bowl.

902
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

903
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 5: A long time ago, the late.

904
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: Great Jamie Roots suggested that I do the TV games

905
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: with Andre, and that would probably put you there as

906
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: well and everything, But.

907
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: I never wanted to leave the radio booth.

908
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: In other words, not to go full Charlton Heston here,

909
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: but you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

910
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 5: That hads not gonna part with the radio booth.

911
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: There's just no way.

912
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 5: I kind of labored.

913
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: Over that too, because a lot of guys who do

914
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: what I do in the league do the preseason TV,

915
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: and I get that. So you're still calling the game.

916
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: I'll still keep my streak alive. But I love the

917
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: radio medium. I want to be part of it. I

918
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: don't want to let anybody have that radio mic. So

919
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm very selfish about it, honestly, but I think it's

920
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: also for the best of the organization. About that, well,

921
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: it's the best thing.

922
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: For you that I'm here, trust me.

923
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: Now, I said, let the TV guys do the TV right,

924
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: and Kevin Cooler is awesome, love them And obviously ND

925
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: has done a great job. This is his second year,

926
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: and you're gonna do a phenomenal job with them in

927
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: the booth.

928
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was interesting.

929
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 4: We talked about Adams Dams, Kay Adams from upping Adams

930
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: on the show yesterday, and Mark did a great job.

931
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: You did a great job talking to her, and as

932
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: we were leaving, she looked at me.

933
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: She says, so you like doing preseason games and I

934
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 4: was like, She's like, they make you nervous.

935
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, I know everybody on the field. You

936
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: know on the other side.

937
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 4: You know, I know the stories of the Pittsburgh Steelers,

938
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: Giants and Rams because I've.

939
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: Done a lot of draft work on these guys. So

940
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: I was like, Nah, I like it.

941
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 4: And the one thing that I'll miss is the fact

942
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 4: that we kind of work through our stuff the three

943
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: preseason games. You know, it's it takes a second when

944
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: we haven't done a broadcast together since January. It's also okay,

945
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 4: let's get our stuff together and make sure we're back

946
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: where we want to make sure we're not stepping on

947
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 4: each other, make sure I'm giving you guys the right information,

948
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff.

949
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: We kind of work through that as we go through

950
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: the preseason game.

951
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: So we got one game to work through it, and

952
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 4: hopefully that's going to be that'll be enough. But I'm

953
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: I'm stoked. I'm excited just just to be there. I'm

954
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 4: a little nervous. I've been waking up the last few

955
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 4: nights in the middle of the night, kind of thinking

956
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: about what I want to say, kind of to start

957
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 4: the broadcast and all that kind of stuff. But I

958
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 4: just want to go have fun and give Texans fans

959
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: what they expect from me, which is, hey, he knows

960
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: this team. Give me that football boy, all right, you know,

961
00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: give me that information.

962
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: And that's what I hope to do.

963
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Coogler is a great guy to work with,

964
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: and he'll be wonderful in the booth in a three

965
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: man situation, so well, end I mean, you're not going

966
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: to get a more gracious guy than Indy Kalu. So

967
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: I think that the mix will be great. And I

968
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: love Coogler's story because Howie dinner off from Westwood One

969
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: at the time, found him in Omaha as a young

970
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: broadcaster and somehow ended up on the College World series

971
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: for Westwood One, and then it just took off from there.

972
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: Eventually he's doing Sunday Night football on the national radio

973
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: stage and that's where we plucked him for Texans preseason TV.

974
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: And I got to say this TV tape he put

975
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: together with the Texans got him the Fox job, or helped,

976
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, his talent spoke for itself because he was

977
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: doing Big ten TV as well, but then he got

978
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: the Fox gig and it's awesome, So that's true. He's

979
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: a wonderful announcer. And I can't wait to see the

980
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: replay because Andre and I will be on the air

981
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: with Robert Hensley, missing you with Aaron Raybold in the booth.

982
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: But we're gonna have a blast Texans at Steelers. It's

983
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: a six o'clock kick, three o'clock count down, a kickoff

984
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: with Sean Pendergast and also Seth Payne. And you'll still

985
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: be doing your regular pregame stuff with those guys and

986
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: catching up with Nick Cassio and all of that, and

987
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: then we're gonna go to the game broadcast, the postgame.

988
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: You're still gonna do the post game Demiko interview and

989
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: all that other stuff. So you'll still be hearing plenty

990
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: of Johnny Harris throughout game day on Sports Radio six '

991
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: ten as we bring it to you. All right, that's

992
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: gonna do it for the show tonight. I can't wait

993
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: for twenty four hours from now, Texans Steelers. Thanks so

994
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: much for listening. Area forty five coming up. What do

995
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: they have tonight? They'll tell you in a moment here,

996
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: have a great night, Go Texans.