Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? And here we are back with the
Speaker 1: fantastic Adam Scott. We are going to recap season three,
Speaker 1: episode one where there's smoke, written and directed by Michael
Speaker 1: Patrick King. So here I am, and this is what
Speaker 1: we've decided to do because I mean, you guys recap
Speaker 1: on your show on your podcast about your show, but
Speaker 1: you also play the scenes, right, But we don't do
Speaker 1: that right, So what I'd like to do is I
Speaker 1: talk about the characters through line rather than like bopping around.
Speaker 2: The different Yeah. Is that cool?
Speaker 1: So the thing that I love about this, first of all,
Speaker 1: do you know Slattery? Yes, it is fantastic.
Speaker 2: It's so good on Sex and the City. So that's
Speaker 2: one of his superpowers I think is when you watch Slattery,
Speaker 2: you're just so at ease as an audience member. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: he's got this. You don't have to It's incredible.
Speaker 1: He only doesn't even have any hardly lines, Like it's crazy.
Speaker 2: He's such a presence and it's hard to believe that
Speaker 2: it was even written. It feels like it's coming. He's
Speaker 2: just great, right, he's great.
Speaker 3: I know, he's so incredible.
Speaker 2: You want them to be together. I know you want
Speaker 2: them to be together until the thing happened, which is
Speaker 2: the next episode.
Speaker 3: It was coming because I haven't seen it yet. I
Speaker 3: haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: But also I asked him to be on the pod
Speaker 1: and he said no. And sometimes I'm like, why do
Speaker 1: they say no?
Speaker 2: And then I forget what the guys had to do, Like.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they had to do kind of it things right,
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And then like different co stars who have come on
Speaker 1: Guest Stars tell us like, oh, yes, you know.
Speaker 3: Now I'm still asked about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know. But that's the story was about the women,
Speaker 2: and think about all the dumb stuff women had to
Speaker 2: do over the years.
Speaker 3: As thank you, Adam, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yes I do, yes, I do. Can take a few.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I do think I think it's weird in that I
Speaker 1: think for them, and I think at the time we
Speaker 1: were somewhat aware that it was odd for them to
Speaker 1: come in and that guest our way of like the boyfriend,
Speaker 1: because as women, we were very used to being the
Speaker 1: guest our girlfriend, right, But they were not so used
Speaker 1: to being the guest our boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Was emasculating for them possibly.
Speaker 1: I mean I've never used that word to them. I've
Speaker 1: just said was it weird or uncomfortable? And they were
Speaker 1: like yeah, kind yeah yeah. And the thing I was
Speaker 1: going to say that reminded me when I watched this
Speaker 1: and I remember this time, you know, very well, because
Speaker 1: it was when things really were like clicking and happening,
Speaker 1: and you know, that first week was so hard and
Speaker 1: we were on the Staten Island ferry and I remember
Speaker 1: all of us are like, oh my god, we're on
Speaker 1: the Stateland fairy and we had to keep turning it
Speaker 1: around so that the background.
Speaker 3: Would match, so that the city would match.
Speaker 1: How we're talking about, like look at how small it looks, right, that.
Speaker 2: Was really fun.
Speaker 3: But when we're going and we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Like look at how small the island is and has
Speaker 1: all of our ex boyfriends on it, and so we
Speaker 1: had to keep turning the ferry around and the fairy
Speaker 1: is huge and people were throwing up over the side.
Speaker 2: You get seasick on the ferry.
Speaker 1: I don't, but other people did you do? Because you
Speaker 1: don't normally turn it around. Yeah, you're right, it is
Speaker 1: too big to keep, you know, circling back or whatever
Speaker 1: like how we had to do and that was an
Speaker 1: all nighter, I mean so bad, like till the sun
Speaker 1: came up, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And luckily
Speaker 1: I just had to add crazy for that other one.
Speaker 1: But I don't really remember that as well. It's funny
Speaker 1: because I think as an actor, like you have to
Speaker 1: check out a little bit when you're gonna act all
Speaker 1: crazy like that.
Speaker 2: But it's adorable to watch.
Speaker 1: I do remember being cold because we would go back
Speaker 1: in February but still have to probably be wearing our
Speaker 1: little dresses, right, But at least in this one we
Speaker 1: get to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and I literally am like.
Speaker 1: I'm so cold, which I probably just begged them please
Speaker 1: let me say it because I've got to hold on
Speaker 1: dessert dusk. I'm crazy and we're on the water in
Speaker 1: February for God's sake, you know. But it was it
Speaker 1: was really it was fun times. But the thing that
Speaker 1: I think, so when I look at in terms of
Speaker 1: let's talk about Charlotte for a second, this is when
Speaker 1: they had sat me down and said, you know, this
Speaker 1: is when we want Charlotte to really decide that she
Speaker 1: wants to get married this year, and she's going to
Speaker 1: do whatever it takes, and she's going to be like
Speaker 1: a heat seeking missile, you know, like and soon I'm
Speaker 1: going to get the book, like I have a book
Speaker 1: that's going to talk about how to get married or whatever.
Speaker 3: Like craziness, right.
Speaker 2: Because is it in the next episode where you're like,
Speaker 2: where is he is this one? This one is this one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is great, which is a great scene, And
Speaker 1: so I was I was all down for it because
Speaker 1: I knew, you know that culturally women are are like this,
Speaker 1: women are fed this thing you know about you know,
Speaker 1: getting married and having the perfect and.
Speaker 2: You only have this one window.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly and all of that I don't personally feel,
Speaker 1: didn't feel then, but I certainly knew a lot of
Speaker 1: people did. And I felt like, this is great, and
Speaker 1: I also knew that it wasn't going to work out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the plan, the original plan was that Charlotte was
Speaker 1: going to be like, you know, on and on and
Speaker 1: on it. I'm going to do this, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do that. I'm going to look at it like a job.
Speaker 1: I'm going to you know, all these crazy things. I'd say,
Speaker 1: and they'd all roll their eyes at me, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But then it was going to work,
Speaker 1: and the idea was that it was going to find
Speaker 1: this guy just before we knew it was Kyle was
Speaker 1: going to find this guy and Gray Trey Good and
Speaker 1: I was going to find him, and he was going
Speaker 1: to look perfect, right, so everything was going to look perfect.
Speaker 1: But then everyone was going to think he was the
Speaker 1: most boring thing ever. You know, like when one of
Speaker 1: your friends married somebody you don't really love them, and
Speaker 1: like the other friends are like, you go talk to them,
Speaker 1: he's going to be like that.
Speaker 3: But then it was Kyle, and.
Speaker 2: Kyle is just not boring damn interesting.
Speaker 1: So then we all collectively fell in love with Kyle,
Speaker 1: and he stayed longer than he was ever supposed to stay,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But we still had to let him go. So it
Speaker 2: was the impotence sing replacement for the boy I think
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: I'd have to ask Michael Patrick that, but I think so, I.
Speaker 2: Know, I know who would have something that come because
Speaker 2: you couldn't build the perfect life around it, and the
Speaker 2: impotence thing could be a secret which ends up being right. Uh,
Speaker 2: And so but Charlotte is so dedicated to this idea
Speaker 2: that and all appearances were her dream true. But there's
Speaker 2: this corruption at the middle of it, right, you can't
Speaker 2: do there's nothing to be done about it, right, And
Speaker 2: then the them getting back together and does it go
Speaker 2: into season four? Is you know what? I don't even know?
Speaker 2: I mean, because that's what I was going to say too.
Speaker 1: I only watched these back in the day when we
Speaker 1: were making them for the first Yes, sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: remember well, and sometimes I remember everything.
Speaker 2: Right, so weird. I watch when some was Parks and
Speaker 2: Rack and I do not remember filming that, And it's
Speaker 2: a very weird, isn't it weird? Like some of them
Speaker 2: like what am I about to do? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Am I going to make out with these people?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: You're going to have a threesome?
Speaker 3: Right, You're like, oh my god, am I gonna No?
Speaker 2: It was a dream. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't remember having a three someme.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Very scary.
Speaker 1: But I mean there's some things I remember, Crystal Clear,
Speaker 1: you know, like you remember that day or what was
Speaker 1: happening off camera or whatever.
Speaker 3: But when we start this episode, I see that I'm
Speaker 3: wearing a cross.
Speaker 1: So I also think that Michael Patrick and Darren already
Speaker 1: planned that the first marriage wasn't going to work out,
Speaker 1: and then I was going to fall in love with
Speaker 1: the Jewish guy and conferred because I had never worn
Speaker 1: a cross before. But I remember they started pushing these
Speaker 1: crosses on me. I have a diamond cross coming, I
Speaker 1: have a I'm wearing like an old fashioned looking cross
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this episode, like they already knew.
Speaker 1: But I don't think I knew that whole part, or
Speaker 1: if I did, I kind of was just more focused
Speaker 1: on the Kyle of it all, you know, once that came.
Speaker 2: Because Harry's definitely not till season four or five, right,
Speaker 2: I feel like I.
Speaker 1: Feel like I mean, I also feel like in my mind,
Speaker 1: I know we kept Kyle longer than we were supposed to,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that we kept them all that long.
Speaker 1: And I think this season we do like twenty one
Speaker 1: or something like in the olden days, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Wild? So many episodes, right, so many? Like I'm sure
Speaker 2: you guys did that on Parks and rec too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: twenty two crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to think we shoot him in five days, right,
Speaker 1: which is also insane, insane, insane.
Speaker 2: I did a show party down we shot, we shot
Speaker 2: four days what yeah? Oh like oh yeah yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah it's crazy. Do you have kids yet? Yeah? They
Speaker 2: were brand new kids. Oh wow? Yeah?
Speaker 3: That's crazy town, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It was crazy town. Yeah. It's hard, but it was
Speaker 2: in La. At least it was in La.
Speaker 3: Thank god, God right, thank god, God, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's recap. Let's recap. It's always so hard,
Speaker 2: especially when I have someone like yourself, when I can
Speaker 2: just talk about all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is what's great about this this episode
Speaker 1: is that Carrie is heartbroken because Big has gotten engaged
Speaker 1: to Natasha, yes, and she doesn't necessarily want a date.
Speaker 1: And then she comes across Slattery on Staten Island of
Speaker 1: all places, and I mean, who could say noice slattery?
Speaker 3: My god, but he has to.
Speaker 1: Pursue her hardcore and he's a politician, an he's a politician.
Speaker 2: Can I just say this episode has it just it
Speaker 2: has season premiere vibes, which is great. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: so it's like a reset. Yeah, the dancing everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone has goods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean Samantha Fir Samantha in that firehouse.
Speaker 1: I had forgotten. I had one hundred percent forgotten about that.
Speaker 1: And also and I'm off track with because I was
Speaker 1: gonna talk about Kery, but let's talk about Samantha for
Speaker 1: a second.
Speaker 3: Because when we go to that.
Speaker 1: State Island bar, which I do think we literally went
Speaker 1: to Staten Island that we had one hundred percent sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did have to go to Staten Island to do
Speaker 1: riding lessons for this season two finale when I ride
Speaker 1: my horse in Central Park, which was my first time
Speaker 1: to Staten Island, and I was like, what planet have
Speaker 1: I landed on?
Speaker 2: I have what? I've never been to stat.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Adam, You've got to go different. I mean
Speaker 1: I think it's Yes, it's totally different than the rest
Speaker 1: of Manhattan, but also they have horses and stuff like
Speaker 1: who knew like trees and horses and whatnot. But so
Speaker 1: I do think we were we were either in like
Speaker 1: Lower Manhattan. Sometimes we would go to Dumbo, like when
Speaker 1: she goes right exactly, I think she was in Dumbo
Speaker 1: with the ferry because maybe we couldn't sh to Sate Island,
Speaker 1: and I later on for this past show, rented up
Speaker 1: Airbnb and Dumbo, thinking that it.
Speaker 3: Was going to be like the old Dumbo, and then
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, what did I mean?
Speaker 1: It's crazy like with like you know, picture Instagram, picture
Speaker 1: ops and whatever. No, I remembered like warehouse everywhere exactly
Speaker 1: literally every corner has a swea green. It's quite quite different.
Speaker 1: But we you know, we were somewhere with those firemen
Speaker 1: taking off their shirts and I feel like they might
Speaker 1: have been real fireman.
Speaker 2: I need to check.
Speaker 1: But then like Samantha goes and talks to the one
Speaker 1: that she thinks looks the.
Speaker 2: Best, and he is so funny. Do you remember really funny?
Speaker 2: He's super dumb and really good at being I mean,
Speaker 2: it's incredible.
Speaker 1: I last how bad I had to rewind and off again,
Speaker 1: like he just keeps talking and she doesn't want him
Speaker 1: to talk.
Speaker 2: Hys directly funny, so funny, and hats off to her
Speaker 2: doing that too.
Speaker 1: I had forgotten it was incredible and I had not
Speaker 1: remembered it. And when she is so she's she goes
Speaker 1: to the house, which also like what.
Speaker 2: On earth you know?
Speaker 1: And then she's and then the voice over says like,
Speaker 1: then Samantha realized, because we do bring up I love
Speaker 1: the whole rescue theme, you know. And this is when Charlotte,
Speaker 1: you know, Charlotte goes out dancing, you know, realizes I
Speaker 1: guess for the first time that she's a catch, which
Speaker 1: is hysterical, right, and Carrie's like, yes, darlinge yes.
Speaker 2: And then the next morning we're hungover.
Speaker 1: Everyone's hungover, but I'm particularly hungover, and I get to
Speaker 1: film that scene that then we played at every award
Speaker 1: show and I got to hear everybody laugh where I say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been dating since I was fifteen, Where is.
Speaker 2: My hair hurts?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Which was so great and quintessentially Charlotte. And when I die,
Speaker 1: they can just show that it'll be fine.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what I mean. There's so much
Speaker 2: more too, and there is what I mean that would
Speaker 2: be fine.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like when things work, you're just like, thank god. Right,
Speaker 1: So that worked really well, but everybody's got like and
Speaker 1: at that coffee shop scene, that's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: coffee shop scenes. Yeah, because I hungover hungover when we're
Speaker 1: and then we're talking about Fireman and why does everyone
Speaker 1: like Fireman, and this is pre nine to eleven, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is also kind of amazing. Right, we're talking about
Speaker 1: the hero and like just the look in their eyes
Speaker 1: that they will save you.
Speaker 2: And it's so interesting that once you guys all sort
Speaker 2: of land on that, everyone stops talking for a minute
Speaker 2: and just kind of absorbs this reality that you've all
Speaker 2: stumbled upon, and you're just like, it's so good, it's
Speaker 2: so good, it's so good. And then Slattery does rescue her,
Speaker 2: then she rescues him absolutely absolutely. But also Charlotte's dance yes,
Speaker 2: is really iconic too. It's so sweet, thank you, And
Speaker 2: she's just having a moment of your which is nice
Speaker 2: self generated right and also depending on any free right,
Speaker 2: but not depending on the attention of ay. That's that's true.
Speaker 2: She is having her own happiness in that moment. That's
Speaker 2: so true.
Speaker 1: That's so true, because earlier I've screwed my face all
Speaker 1: up into a weird thing and said like there's no
Speaker 1: datable men here, like you know, so charlottey judge. But
Speaker 1: then she sets herself free and has a funny dance
Speaker 1: to like a weird song. I remember when Michael Patrick
Speaker 1: I was thinking it would be something that we knew,
Speaker 1: you know, that I would have to live.
Speaker 2: Remember, it's a very strange song.
Speaker 1: I still don't even remember, because I remember I had
Speaker 1: to like study it, like what that heck was?
Speaker 2: I think it was cheap.
Speaker 1: I think that was totally it. And I was like,
Speaker 1: couldn't we do something else? And he's like, no, you
Speaker 1: have to do this one.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, because there was an expensive song
Speaker 2: earlier in the episode. Right, let's see.
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that's right. I mean
Speaker 1: expensive for the time, right, Yes, exactly so, And I
Speaker 1: remember that at that time because also Sarah Jessica does
Speaker 1: a little dance the cameras above us. We would get
Speaker 1: a choreographer because we were so nervous about any dancing.
Speaker 1: If they said the word dance, the choreographer would be
Speaker 1: called to just hold our hands.
Speaker 2: I get it, because it's yeah, and it's embarrassing in
Speaker 2: front of everybody, totally.
Speaker 3: You got to free yourself up somehow, and if you
Speaker 3: know some steps.
Speaker 2: Or like an idea really drunk, so you have.
Speaker 1: To pretend that, yes, you're absolutely pretending that as well.
Speaker 1: We never we never drank real drinks, no matter other
Speaker 1: people did.
Speaker 2: On other sets. I guess I've been finding out through
Speaker 2: this podcast. I feel like I would that would I
Speaker 2: think that would be terrible because then three hours later
Speaker 2: you're going to be like feeling like definitely over and
Speaker 2: you have to work another night, another one, and you're gonna.
Speaker 1: Do other scenes where you're not drunk. I don't even
Speaker 1: understand how that works. Yeah, I'm sober also, so that
Speaker 1: would be a problem. But I didn't have to do that,
Speaker 1: so it's all good. But yeah, it was always fun
Speaker 1: for Charlotte to play drunk, to be drunk because she
Speaker 1: would be free, you know, which was so nice. So
Speaker 1: we all have this moment which I think the entire
Speaker 1: scene of the you know, do women just want to
Speaker 1: be rescued? I think is an incredible theme and holds
Speaker 1: up still.
Speaker 2: And a great way to launch the season.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we launch of the season and still such a
Speaker 1: we could do a new show now about that, you know, like,
Speaker 1: do women still want to be rescued? I kind of
Speaker 1: feel like they do.
Speaker 2: Well, everything in the show is evergreen, don't you think.
Speaker 2: I do think you guys are I do?
Speaker 1: I mean, every once in a while there'll be something
Speaker 1: where we say something weird, like the Do you know
Speaker 1: Danny Futterman, Oh yeah, and he played the metro sexual
Speaker 1: and that was a word good he's so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a word that didn't survive, right, like.
Speaker 2: We're remember that, I remember the past that. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: so sometimes there's something like that. There's little cultural things, right,
Speaker 2: but like.
Speaker 3: The bigger themes I think are one still true.
Speaker 2: I think even in that case, the fact that these
Speaker 2: four women come to that conclusion is still interesting and
Speaker 2: still resonant that that's where they land and they all
Speaker 2: four of them at the same time are like, yeah,
Speaker 2: okay in two thousand and one or two thousand, two thousand, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it of it.
Speaker 1: But I think it's great because it is still something
Speaker 1: that I mean, I guess it's specific now to everybody, right,
Speaker 1: like do they want to be rescued or don't they?
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't want to be rescued at the time,
Speaker 1: but I certainly knew that I was supposed to want
Speaker 1: to be rescued.
Speaker 2: Right, which also gets a reaction, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So my reaction was like no, yeah, I
Speaker 1: will not be rescued. I will be super independent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get away from me. Don't open that door, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean? Well, you can still be independent and
Speaker 2: still want that feeling even if you don't. Even if
Speaker 2: that feeling is it doesn't preclude you from carrying on
Speaker 2: with your life. Maybe I don't know. I do think
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 1: I mean I did eventually go out with someone who
Speaker 1: used to save me, Like, could you just relax with
Speaker 1: the independence a little bit? He was Australian, so I'm
Speaker 1: not going to go too much into detail. And I'd
Speaker 1: be like, what do you mean? He'd be like, well, like,
Speaker 1: for instance, you know, just let me order. I'd be like, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll try, you know, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you could give it up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I could give up.
Speaker 3: I didn't need to have it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: But you have to.
Speaker 1: I think I had to prove to myself that I
Speaker 1: could be independent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's where you are exactly.
Speaker 2: And I mean I was then too. But then I
Speaker 2: could also just let him.
Speaker 1: Have the power if he needed to have the power,
Speaker 1: if that made him feel good, sure, and it made
Speaker 1: me feel good. And then one time I got sick
Speaker 1: and he was there and I let him take care
Speaker 1: of me.
Speaker 2: I remember that a big.
Speaker 1: Thing, big step, big step, and he was very good
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, that's nice, and was it? And
Speaker 2: was it a nice feeling to have someone? It was
Speaker 2: a good feeling.
Speaker 1: It would have been very because we were on location
Speaker 1: and and and he just happened to be visiting. And
Speaker 1: if he hadn't been there, I would have just gutted
Speaker 1: it out by myself. Like I wouldn't have called anybody
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't have wanted to worry anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, like when you're
Speaker 2: on location, you don't want to scare everyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, because I already I had had the weekend off.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I would have just holed up
Speaker 1: in that little hotel room by myself.
Speaker 2: So it was nice. So it's sometimes nice, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: let someone, even if it's for their sake, to let
Speaker 2: them feel like art take you know.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, But I think and that's why it was
Speaker 1: and still is, you know, whenever I do play Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Still interesting is that she wanted all these things, but
Speaker 1: then is also super super capable, right, yes, but still
Speaker 1: thought she wanted the fantasy, yes, and then has to
Speaker 1: let go of elements of the fancy but still found
Speaker 1: the good guy.
Speaker 2: That's right, you know.
Speaker 1: But then like when if you ever are on a
Speaker 1: plane and watch and just like that, you will see
Speaker 1: like Charlotte runs that family.
Speaker 2: Yeah interesting, Yeah, it's great. But don't you think Harry
Speaker 2: also he's powerful. But he also one of the things
Speaker 2: he loves about her, at least in Sex and the
Speaker 2: City when they when they meet, and then the movies
Speaker 2: as well, is that he does love that she's independent
Speaker 2: and she can't take care of her definitely, and he
Speaker 2: doesn't think she needs him to rescue her.
Speaker 1: Definitely. Definitely. They have a very good partnership. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: He respects her from the start, absolutely, and that's I
Speaker 1: think the thing that that that catches her off, and
Speaker 1: you know it's so attractive, right, like the kind of
Speaker 1: deep respect and also he's just such a good human being,
Speaker 1: you know, which is what's also.
Speaker 2: Doesn't really take any of her No, No, he doesn't.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: And I mean I haven't gotten to rewatch that part yet,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm really going to discover a
Speaker 1: lot when I do. Do you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: but when I yeah, yeah, because you know, like sometimes
Speaker 1: when I rewatch, I'm like, wow, I didn't like see
Speaker 1: all these subtleties, you know, because you're.
Speaker 2: Interesting, because it's super interesting. When they meet, it's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Evan's great.
Speaker 2: I love yes and I love you two together. It's
Speaker 2: so fun. Thank you. I mean, we lucked out with him.
Speaker 2: We lucked out with him.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to have to keep rewatching, but
Speaker 1: I do. I have to ask you this question because
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that I think about Evan and
Speaker 1: I think about how lucky we are is that that
Speaker 1: part was written for another actor that Michael saw doing
Speaker 1: a play off Broadway, and then it became between that
Speaker 1: actor and Evan.
Speaker 3: And Evan, we used to.
Speaker 1: Get to read with the people who were in the
Speaker 1: finalist for our main guys, right, not Kyle Kyle. Michael
Speaker 1: met it a picnic and just told me it's going
Speaker 1: to be a comicgoaguah.
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, we're you going to say, right?
Speaker 1: But Evan came in in this audition with props and
Speaker 1: he took this this big muffin out and just ate
Speaker 1: it and talked with like crumbs coming out as well, right,
Speaker 1: like super confident. And I remember seeing and I don't
Speaker 1: know if this was intentional or not in the lead
Speaker 1: up to the Emmys, that Britt's audition tape.
Speaker 3: Did you see that?
Speaker 2: It like got out? Like how does that happen? So interesting?
Speaker 2: I mean I think they put it out they got
Speaker 2: it because it was so incredible. I mean, my god, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she sent that in and it was an incredible tape
Speaker 2: and then came in and we read together, got it
Speaker 2: and she was great. But yeah, that that and he.
Speaker 3: Showed you the tape because this is in the self
Speaker 3: tape era.
Speaker 2: Right, the tape it it got it right. But but
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen it when she came to read. I
Speaker 2: hadn't seen it yet, okay, but I knew brit from
Speaker 2: before good and when she walked in, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, yeah, of course Britt, and I knew immediately,
Speaker 2: was like, that's that's that's her.
Speaker 3: And she's so perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely amazing, amazing, Like when you see that self table,
Speaker 1: I mean it is it's a perfection. Everything is there
Speaker 1: and that's a hard, hard scene, not easy, good lord,
Speaker 1: so impressive. Anyway, Sorry, I'm always curious about when they
Speaker 1: released those things, like how does it happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean I wish this is
Speaker 2: so great? Should put this? Yeah? Cool, cool, cool cool.
Speaker 2: I totally agree.
Speaker 1: All right, Samantha's in that firehouse, So I had forgotten that.
Speaker 1: She goes to the literal firehouse and thinks it's going
Speaker 1: to have some like sex fantasy, and all.
Speaker 2: These dudes are there just stirring at her like hunky.
Speaker 1: They're not all hunky, of course, and then she's like,
Speaker 1: why are all the outfits here on the floor, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just really funny. He's like for a fire and
Speaker 1: then of course the bell goes off, and then she
Speaker 1: she before that, when she gets gets in his or whatever,
Speaker 1: she looks so incredibly cute, like it's so fantastic.
Speaker 2: But then that fireman.
Speaker 1: Really yells at her like, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, it's so good.
Speaker 1: And then she's standing there by herself in the firehouse
Speaker 1: with no clothes, very brave, very brave, very brave on
Speaker 1: her part, and really incredibly good. Like, you're right, every
Speaker 1: single storyline is so so good, and it's.
Speaker 2: Such a compact amount of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Patrick wrote and directed amazing. That's him at
Speaker 1: his he's like all cylinders firing.
Speaker 2: So then we've got Maranda, who is you.
Speaker 1: Know, struggling this Really I related to this so much,
Speaker 1: talking about independence. She's got to go have her laces,
Speaker 1: and she doesn't want to call a friend. I've been
Speaker 1: in this place so many times. I'm like, I won't
Speaker 1: need a friend. Well, you have a wife, right, But
Speaker 1: do you still try not to.
Speaker 2: Well I remember in my single day like moving by myself, exactly,
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to help me, right, I don't
Speaker 2: need help.
Speaker 3: I don't need help. And then you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: my back is killing.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, And like Marana.
Speaker 1: Is so adorable, Like she wakes up from blastis and
Speaker 1: they told her every different way that she needs a friend,
Speaker 1: and she wants Carrie. She doesn't want Steve, and David
Speaker 1: tries his little sweet self and then she wakes up
Speaker 1: and sell blurry and she sees in there.
Speaker 2: And it's nice, so sweet. Isn't he so good? David Eigenberg, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's incredible, And and I love that she writes those
Speaker 2: big notes for herself. Chinese restaurant, which is the same
Speaker 2: Chinese restaurant she orders from the whole series. It's a
Speaker 2: through line.
Speaker 1: It's a very important through line place I know. And
Speaker 1: that's the other thing rewatching where I really respect the
Speaker 1: writers so much, you know, like the details. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, I would also say there are sometimes inconsistencies
Speaker 1: which in the olden days, pre social media, we were
Speaker 1: allowed to get away with us, and now we are not.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, one thing that you notice is that
Speaker 2: when you guys go to restaurants on the show, often
Speaker 2: it's the exact same menu. Have you noticed that, Yes,
Speaker 2: it's our prop. People are like, get out the restaurant menu, totally, totally.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's because we are at a real restaurant that
Speaker 1: we are going to use as the real restaurant for
Speaker 1: one scene in one episode, but we would crossboard.
Speaker 3: We'd shoot to.
Speaker 1: It once right, and so then in the back we
Speaker 1: would have asked for like a back room, and we've
Speaker 1: dressed it differently to be like an innocuous restaurant, so
Speaker 1: we can use that restaurant twice and get.
Speaker 3: Away with it.
Speaker 1: But yes, little details like that I do sometimes see
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's funny, that's the like it's got
Speaker 1: like onion soup or whatever on it.
Speaker 2: Like I see stuff like that and love it. Why
Speaker 2: so why so.
Speaker 1: Do I as actors? I mean, because we understand why
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But like you guys on
Speaker 1: Severance could never get away with any No.
Speaker 2: But one thing I do notice too is when people
Speaker 2: look down for their marks. But whenever I pointed out that,
Speaker 2: my wife is like, what, it's so actor thing that
Speaker 2: we look at it. I know, I know, I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: But I remember, like when I first was guest starring
Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, the panic about your mark and
Speaker 1: if you have to docy dough yeah, back in the
Speaker 1: olden days.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Or if you're doing a long walk and Talk
Speaker 2: and you have to land on a thing, right, I
Speaker 2: mean this was our show, the Walk and Talk. I mean,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I'm sure. And you're out in the wild, in.
Speaker 1: The wild with the strangers yelling at us and whatnot.
Speaker 2: You feel it too, in these greats? Oh absolutely, absolutely, Sorry,
Speaker 2: you're trying. It's okay.
Speaker 1: I want to recap it. I mean, also I just
Speaker 1: like to talk, okay, Miranda's storyline. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: we did the important part. The important part is that
Speaker 1: it's adorable. And then when she does wake up and
Speaker 1: she sees Steve, and she puts her hand in his hands. Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's the sweetest.
Speaker 2: She wakes up and takes the.
Speaker 1: Goble and she can see clearly, and then she puts
Speaker 1: she sees him clearly.
Speaker 3: Is it's incredible.
Speaker 2: It's so good. I do too. And I I did
Speaker 2: not appreciate him at the time. I've said this already, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I mean not that I didn't think he was
Speaker 2: great or whatever.
Speaker 1: I just I think I liked when we were all
Speaker 1: single somehow, you know, And I didn't really understand how
Speaker 1: incredibly good he was and how opposite they were and complimentary,
Speaker 1: and how good the writing was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she certainly fights it. Yeah, but that makes sense.
Speaker 2: You love someone, you love them.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, even if they aren't what you pictured, and even
Speaker 1: if you didn't even think you wanted to get married
Speaker 1: and whatever, and if you want to be a partner
Speaker 1: at your law firm more than you want to get married.
Speaker 2: It's all the different things. And he embarrasses here and
Speaker 2: he makes dumb jokes, and she's like, god, you know,
Speaker 2: fights it every step of the way, every step of
Speaker 2: the way. And she's just so good. They're both so good,
Speaker 2: so good. I know, I know, right Owerhouse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's continue on the carry of it all.
Speaker 2: And then my I mean, she doesn't want to date
Speaker 2: this guy, but he's so charming. I mean, who could
Speaker 2: say nobody shows up with her voter registration film.
Speaker 3: That's not the cutest thing.
Speaker 2: And also can you believe she didn't vote? I know
Speaker 2: has such residence, but it's so it's a really interesting
Speaker 2: character thing for Carrie, It's like.
Speaker 1: Right, And also her devotion to shoes in this particular episode,
Speaker 1: My god, this is leading up to that she's in debt.
Speaker 1: This is when I think they're really thinking about.
Speaker 2: When they get to her borrowing money.
Speaker 1: From exactly exactly wanting my ring, yeah, to pay off
Speaker 1: her shoe.
Speaker 2: Debt, which is yeah, because but that yeah, because that's
Speaker 2: after Trey, right, right, So they're they're they're really at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 1: I think they've got their writer's room together before the
Speaker 1: show and they're really planning.
Speaker 2: And then also, is it post split up with Trey
Speaker 2: that you're walking and synth you follows.
Speaker 1: You Oh yeah, when I went, well, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: still with Tree, because that's when I really know that
Speaker 1: I can't have a baby. And I remember when he
Speaker 1: gets that paper baby out that that that that poster baby.
Speaker 2: Not a great move, I know, not a great movie.
Speaker 2: And I think thought it would just be a little
Speaker 2: chuckle or whatever.
Speaker 3: I know, that's when he's really annoying. Oh boy, but
Speaker 3: he's still him.
Speaker 2: Are you walking home? And the voiceover saying because she
Speaker 2: knew if she would turn around, That's like, I know.
Speaker 1: It was good, really good. It was really good. I
Speaker 1: look back on those storylines. I haven't watched it again yet, right,
Speaker 1: but I look back on them, and I think in
Speaker 1: some ways I was a little young, like all my
Speaker 1: friends hadn't started going through that yet, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like there was a time maybe like
Speaker 1: five years after that where like all my friends are
Speaker 1: going through IVY, like everybody in It's hell, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. We hadn't really known people yet so
Speaker 1: much who had done that. And I wonder if I
Speaker 1: did it justice?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yes you did. Okay, It's
Speaker 2: so good. It's so good, not just that, but also
Speaker 2: it's it's it's the Charlotte is going through so much
Speaker 2: because there's infertility, but then there's the marriage falling apart,
Speaker 2: and she has to redefine herself. She knows she can't
Speaker 2: do this, she knows she can't stay with this guy,
Speaker 2: and it takes a while for her to actually come
Speaker 2: to terms with that and make the move right. She
Speaker 2: can't do it. No, it's hard. It's because you had
Speaker 2: everything and Bunny away and because the apartment, the money,
Speaker 2: it's just like impossible. But also that scene with Miranda
Speaker 2: following Charlotte home, it's it's also it's it's it's it's
Speaker 2: a little micro moment of what the show really earns
Speaker 2: and builds, which is these four women are bulletproof when
Speaker 2: they're together. They'll do anything for each Oh dude, yes, yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: so good. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: That I think is the legacy, you know, in so
Speaker 1: many ways. I mean, there's so many different elements of
Speaker 1: the legacy. One is the talking freely about sex, of course,
Speaker 1: but like the women being together, not being pitted against
Speaker 1: each other ever at all, which is shocking for TV
Speaker 1: show at the time, which is so bizarre, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'd come from Meloe's place, where like that's all
Speaker 1: you ever were were pitted against that, right, the other women,
Speaker 1: you know, like soap opera ish, right, But the fact
Speaker 1: that we were chosen family, and that we were there
Speaker 1: for all of it, and that we were the you know,
Speaker 1: writer or dies or however you want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: And I do feel like culturally now that's much more celebrated,
Speaker 1: I think with men as well. So I feel like
Speaker 1: men are like a little behind with the you know,
Speaker 1: male friendship being celebrated or whatever. You know, like it's important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredibly important, right, yeah, and that was that
Speaker 2: was all You're right that that was a huge part
Speaker 2: of it too. There were so many firsts with the ship.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's all just so valuable. You're so sweet
Speaker 2: to be such a fan. I love it and you're incredible. Adam. Yes,
Speaker 2: are you a Charlotte. That's a good question.
Speaker 3: Any answer is except.
Speaker 2: Feel like I'm a Miranda. WHOA really? I think? So
Speaker 2: that's interesting. I think so in what way I think
Speaker 2: that Miranda is. I see, I don't like putting any
Speaker 2: of them in boxes because I think they're all like
Speaker 2: whole human beings. That's one of the superpowers of the
Speaker 2: show is they all are lots of different things. Yes, so,
Speaker 2: but I think that the sort of resistance of Miranda
Speaker 2: and the sort of isolation of Miranda that she that
Speaker 2: she kind of thought was her ethos and then eventually
Speaker 2: discovered was not. I I kind of connected.
Speaker 3: Okay, wow, wouldn't have seen that coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I I but then I also connect
Speaker 2: with Charlotte on things and and Carrie and really well,
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, but I think that they're
Speaker 2: all that's storable. I think they're all h They're all.
Speaker 2: You can find entry points with all of them.
Speaker 1: Definitely, for sure, for sure, for sure and that and
Speaker 1: over time, some people tell me like, well, when I
Speaker 1: first started, I was a Carrie and then I kind
Speaker 1: of went through my Charlotte face, and now I'm divorced.
Speaker 2: I'm in my Samantha fase. I'm like, that's cool, it's
Speaker 2: all good, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I would have always said and
Speaker 1: I think this is still true. I have to guess
Speaker 1: I have to rethink it. But I'm like kind of
Speaker 1: Charlotte kind of carry.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's really interesting. It's so interesting just to hear kind
Speaker 2: of where you were when you were shooting the show
Speaker 2: and how different you are from I.
Speaker 3: Mean, in some ways so different.
Speaker 1: Also, I've adopted children, so you know, some big similarities.
Speaker 1: But I did it on camera first, Yeah, which is weird. Interesting,
Speaker 1: I know, weird, right, But I think I think Michael
Speaker 1: Patrick knew that I had that in my mind as
Speaker 1: a possibility. You know what I'm saying. I would have
Speaker 1: to ask him. I don't know what came first, like
Speaker 1: us talking about it or you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's all very interesting.
Speaker 3: That's great, I know, but it's fun.
Speaker 1: But you're just so sweet that you I had no
Speaker 1: idea that you had rewatched three times.
Speaker 3: You're like way ahead of me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and because you had me watch this episode now,
Speaker 2: Like I said, this morning, I was watching. I kept
Speaker 2: watching a few episodes. It's just hard to not continue watching.
Speaker 2: It's which is so nice. I feel that way about
Speaker 2: Parks and Wright. Oh thank you.
Speaker 3: Okay, Adam, You're incredible.
Speaker 2: You're so nice to have me just as a fan.
Speaker 2: This is really terrific. So thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: It's a joy for me. It's a joy for me.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
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