WEBVTT - TOM's Talks | Catching Up With Doc Rivers

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast is part of the seventy Sixers podcast Network

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<v Speaker 1>search seventy Sixers podcast wherever you get your pods. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to a brand new season of Tom's Talks from

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<v Speaker 1>the seventy Sixers podcast Network. In early October, Doc Rivers

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<v Speaker 1>became the twenty fifth head coach in Philadelphia seventy Sixers history.

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<v Speaker 1>He heads into his twenty first overall campaign as a

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<v Speaker 1>head coach with quite a resume, a thirteen year career

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<v Speaker 1>as a player, in the NBA Coach of the Year honors,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course an NBA championship. In this edition of

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<v Speaker 1>Tom's Talks with chat was Sixers head coach Doc Rivers. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to another edition of Tom's Talks and we're joined

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<v Speaker 1>by Sixers head coach Glenn Doc Rivers and Coacha. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. It's the first time we've had a

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<v Speaker 1>forum to shoot the breeze. And I must say, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's been over a couple of months since you

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<v Speaker 1>got the job, watching you that first day of practice

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<v Speaker 1>was like a reality, like for me, like when Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Brown walked onto our practice quarter ten years ago or

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<v Speaker 1>so when doctor Doug Collins did it. And to see

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<v Speaker 1>you out there as a six years coach and the

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<v Speaker 1>coach of our franchise. Was really exciting. And what was

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<v Speaker 1>it like to take the floor for your first practice?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Tom, it's interesting. First of all, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>time we talked. Let me just start with that. And secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>it was different than normal because of COVID. You know, usually,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know this from being around, by the first

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<v Speaker 1>day of camp, you've pretty much created some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with all your players, whether you're a new coach

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<v Speaker 1>or a coach that have been there for many of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys. This is the longest period of time that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been with him since taking the job. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the most that they've heard my voice and all my

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<v Speaker 1>new staff's voice. So it was different. I wouldn't say this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was pleasantly surprised with the endurance of our guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was surprised, you know, we didn't go as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you would for a normal training camp because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think our guys could just sustain it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think many of the guys that was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>they went up and down since the bubble. That's incredible

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about it in those terms. But I

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<v Speaker 1>thought conditioning wise, guys were in pretty good shape speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of voice and endurance and just delving away from the

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<v Speaker 1>here and now a little bit. You usually lose your

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<v Speaker 1>voice by the end of the second week or so,

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<v Speaker 1>so in practice with coaches like Burke and Yeager and

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<v Speaker 1>coach Cassal, and then even in the arena. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you found this to be true in the

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<v Speaker 1>bubble where you don't have to project over twenty thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going to be able to have full throat

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the early weeks months of the season. No, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>lose my voice. I'm already losing. You know. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You just talk more. You know. What I've learned is

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<v Speaker 1>when I get home, I talk none at all. Like tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of I'm quiet, and I watched TV

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<v Speaker 1>and watch football for the most part and move on

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<v Speaker 1>with it. But I have a heck of a staff,

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<v Speaker 1>having Dave Yager, then Berg, Sam Casale, and I lean

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<v Speaker 1>on my staff, you know, And so yeah, I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>they can be my savior for sure. Let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit, because, as you've said before, you

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<v Speaker 1>like hiring guys that have been head coaches because they've

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<v Speaker 1>walked that walk before. You've had Woodie and Lawrence Frank

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<v Speaker 1>and Toronto Lou and all these other guys that have

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<v Speaker 1>been head coaches. And you've done that again with Dave Yager.

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<v Speaker 1>Speak to that as you bring in these other voices

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<v Speaker 1>and creative offensive minds. And Dan Burke's not the head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>but a great defensive coach over the years in Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Speak about your staff. Yeah, I've always done that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listen, I'm just like you. We watched the league,

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<v Speaker 1>right and you know what good looks like. You know, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Spo and I did a podcast with Woes last year

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<v Speaker 1>and woach ask us both at the same time, who

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the better offensive guys that you go against, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that we probably wouldn't know, and we both sit uh

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Viager at the exact same time. And so it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>When I heard Spose say that, I remember thinking I

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<v Speaker 1>need to go out and get Dave Viager. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>coaching right now, and so I did. You know the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with Dan Indiana, no matter what the coach

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<v Speaker 1>has been, their defense has always been legit and strong

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<v Speaker 1>and had that tough personality. Um, I am a believer

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<v Speaker 1>that you you fit the personality of your city sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a city of toughness, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>like we have to we have to embode that on

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<v Speaker 1>everybody every night. And that's what we talked about as

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<v Speaker 1>a team tonight. Uh. You know, we have size, you

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<v Speaker 1>know when you look at our team this we have

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<v Speaker 1>size on our team, you know, and and big, strong,

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<v Speaker 1>athletic guys. We need to impose that on our our opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, going out and getting Dan was

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<v Speaker 1>perfect for that. And then with Sam, I really thought

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<v Speaker 1>Sam could sale. The first thing I thought was been

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Sam's gonna be great for Ben, and so

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<v Speaker 1>far has been terrific. Speaking of the initial conversation, like

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<v Speaker 1>before you guys started to go through plays and up

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<v Speaker 1>and down for practice, you know, there's that initial meeting

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<v Speaker 1>where you talk about I'm assuming shared sacrifice, not skipping steps,

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<v Speaker 1>being optimistic, bringing a good attitude, and and accountability and collaboration.

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<v Speaker 1>You've said in the past, part of your deal is

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<v Speaker 1>just saying up front, right off the bat, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have all the answers and it needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>a collaborative process. Speak to that, because that's a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>important element of being a team with chemistry that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to make it all the way to the end and

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<v Speaker 1>play for seven or so much. There's no winning team

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't do it well. Cooperation, like it's the key

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<v Speaker 1>to winning, the key to business. You have to cooperate,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to get along, you have to be willing

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<v Speaker 1>to sacrifice, you have to be willing to give up

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<v Speaker 1>yourself for the greater good of the team. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about a lot of that, and individually, I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about guys, you know, dominating their role, like every night,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I told Joel every night they should know

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<v Speaker 1>Joel and beats in the building and he's the baddest

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<v Speaker 1>big man in the league. And you have to come

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<v Speaker 1>out with that. But then on top of that, that

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<v Speaker 1>can't not allow everybody else on the team to be

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<v Speaker 1>great too. You know, if it's just about you being dominant,

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<v Speaker 1>not to whole team being dominant, it doesn't work. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's about you being dominant and allowing the team to

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<v Speaker 1>be dominant, it works beautifully. And I think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do. Speaking about that accountability and stepping back

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<v Speaker 1>up being specific about this team or our franchise. But

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<v Speaker 1>in general, like in high school, the coach can just

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<v Speaker 1>in a punitive way say I'm alie and make guys run.

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<v Speaker 1>In college, he's dealing with men seventeen to twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>He can control their minutes. In the pros, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily bench a guy. You might hear from the front

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<v Speaker 1>office of the ownership like, yo, we're paying that guy

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, So it has to be player

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<v Speaker 1>buying because you don't have that directive. Is that speak

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<v Speaker 1>about that a little bit? Well? You do? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always kind of disagreed with that a little you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been like, listen, I'm gonna do what's best

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<v Speaker 1>for the team, and that's sitting a guy. Because I

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<v Speaker 1>do it, and I'm willing to take the heat from

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he goes. It's not going to change me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep doing it, you know. Having said that, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a player's league and that's okay. Players want to

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<v Speaker 1>be coached. They do. They want to make sure you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between a player in college and a player

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<v Speaker 1>in the pros is in college players have to be coached.

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<v Speaker 1>They have no choice. They're trying to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA and they know that college coach holds the card

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<v Speaker 1>to that when they get to the pros, they still

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<v Speaker 1>want to be coached. In my opinion, they just want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure it's worth it, you know. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>always said that they want to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance what's in it for them, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not being a selfish thing. That means as a team thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've always you know, I tell young coaches

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<v Speaker 1>all the time just because you know, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>coach tell me once, you know, I got to show

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<v Speaker 1>them I'm the head coach and I and I actually said,

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<v Speaker 1>do me a favor. Go outside, look outside your door,

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<v Speaker 1>and what does it say? And he says, well, it

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<v Speaker 1>says head coach. I said, okay, they already know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you've got to prove to them what you want

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<v Speaker 1>them to do and that it will work, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've never had a problem proven that, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least trying to more of my conversation with Doc Rivers

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment, But I would like to remind you

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<v Speaker 1>that we'll have new episodes of Tom's Talks premiering Thursdays

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<v Speaker 1>all season low and coming next week on the seventy

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<v Speaker 1>six Ers podcast. Network, Matt Murphy chats with Jamir Nelson

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<v Speaker 1>on a new edition of Coach Check, the official podcast

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<v Speaker 1>of the Delaware Bluecoats, and Brian Seltzer catches up with

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<v Speaker 1>Joel and be Now more of my conversation with Doc Rivers.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that drew you here, obviously is

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<v Speaker 1>the talent. You've got a roster and now there's already

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<v Speaker 1>been some tweaks. You've brought in a lot of shooters

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<v Speaker 1>that will create spacing. Speak to the prospects of coaching

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<v Speaker 1>this roster to a championship. Yeah, I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>why I came. I chose them, and I told them that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I did, have other choices, and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>would go to TV and sit next to you maybe

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<v Speaker 1>on radio and just through games and enjoy. But I

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<v Speaker 1>like being in afraid and I wanted to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a fray with a group that I thought we can

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<v Speaker 1>mode and win. You know, But with that statement comes

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<v Speaker 1>you got to do the required stuff, man. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I told our guys, Okay, everybody wants to win the title,

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<v Speaker 1>can Now what are you willing to do? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>willing to do the required word that it takes. There's

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<v Speaker 1>certain things that are required to win. You just can't

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<v Speaker 1>say I want to win. You got to go out

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<v Speaker 1>and get in shape. You gotta go out and give

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<v Speaker 1>up your game and trust each other. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff to that, and I said, now that we've

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<v Speaker 1>all committed to that, we're going to find out who

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<v Speaker 1>actually wants to do that. And we'll find that out.

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<v Speaker 1>One other thing that's such a huge part of this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of the elephant in the room, is the

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen virus, just because, as you've said, if two

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<v Speaker 1>or three of your players end up having to sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and be quarantine, and this is during a chunk

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<v Speaker 1>of your schedule where you're playing in two huge division

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<v Speaker 1>rivals and they might miss six or so games, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a variable for the league and for your team,

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<v Speaker 1>and the possibility is out there at any given time.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where guys speaking of sacrifice have to It's

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<v Speaker 1>just the wild card, is it not? It is? And

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<v Speaker 1>I can honestly say, I know how it's gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I did we talk to our players. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, think about telling the play. Hey don't allow

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<v Speaker 1>any family members in. Uh, if your friends want to

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<v Speaker 1>come in and see you say, no, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 1>not to eat at a restaurant, trying. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot and this is not just the athletes. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that has to try to conduct themselves in the right way. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this this COVID is tough. Man. It's been a knockout punch.

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<v Speaker 1>It really has been. But it's gonna be over soon,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope, and we have to maintain through it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, Um, we have to try our best not

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<v Speaker 1>to have that week where we're missing four five players

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<v Speaker 1>because in a seventy two games schedule with not even

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<v Speaker 1>a guarantee of that with COVID, every game is precious.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now. The East is so tough. I mean everyone

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<v Speaker 1>talks about the West and you know that really well.

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<v Speaker 1>But in your division you've got Toronto that's not going away,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston who's been really a nemesis obviously for the Sixers

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<v Speaker 1>as you know forever, and of course now Brooklyn and Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>you got I mean, Milwaukee, Miami. This is it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a tough division, tough Eastern Conference. Yeah, the East

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be tough. You know, I keep following the

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<v Speaker 1>good conferences. I'm not figured that one out. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was in the East the last time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Detroit and Cleveland and we had to try

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<v Speaker 1>to get through all these teams. Then I go West

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<v Speaker 1>and we have all these teams. So it's gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>it interesting for sure. You gotta win games, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta one thing. I told our guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's different without fans, But we have to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the road for sure. If we can continue to

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<v Speaker 1>do what we've done last year at home and then

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<v Speaker 1>go out and win road games, that we're really dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been with a number of franchises, the Magic and

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<v Speaker 1>Boston and the Clippers and played for a number You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot going here with great ownership now with

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<v Speaker 1>Darryl Moray and Elton Brand, yourself and a talented roster.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a great situation. We've kind of spoken about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but now it's time to go get it done and

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<v Speaker 1>prove that all these parts can lead yourself to a championship. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love where we're at, I love

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<v Speaker 1>working here. I love our group, you know, Darrow and

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<v Speaker 1>you know Elton. Just a communication we have right now daily,

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<v Speaker 1>We're so just united at the hip. I hope in

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<v Speaker 1>five years I'm saying that that means we have won

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<v Speaker 1>a title, and that's the goal. I think the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>part about being here right now, you know, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we were good enough to do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>if we're not, I think we will be because the

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<v Speaker 1>group we're working with, they're going to leave no stone unturned.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to win. It's nice when you're with the

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<v Speaker 1>group like that. Coach, I can't thank enough. We hope

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<v Speaker 1>to do it again. Amen. We will guarantee. Thanks for

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