1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: There were a select few moments where I did step 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: back and contemplate life beyond football. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: In the game of life, maintaining a healthy lifestyle and 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: nurturing meaningful connections with family can be among the most 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: formidable challenges we face. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: You definitely can feel the pressure, just that outside noise 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 3: and people always eye you down, trying to see always 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: he going to be as good as his dad. 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Yet, for many professional athletes, fostering both has proven to 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: be a triumphant recipe for success. 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 4: As you look through my career, my dad's career, there's 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 4: a bunch of simularities, and so it's really cool for 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 4: me to be able to have somebody in my circle 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 4: that's been through a lot of things that I've been through. 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: I'm John Frankel. For the past two decades, I've traveled 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: the globe covering some of the most impactful human interest 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: stories in sports. On this show, I'm sitting down with 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: some of the biggest families in the game, the legends, 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: current superstars, and the up and coming playmakers to understand 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: what's really making them teck. What can pro athlete families 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: teach a new generation about the importance of caring for 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: your health and finding success in the face of adversity. Together, 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: we'll hear stories of their remarkable comebacks, setbacks, and the 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: crucial role their family and self care played in their 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: paths to championship glory. This is part of the game. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner is the NFL's ultimate Sinderellaman. His story is 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: one of legend, a journeyman quarterback who wound up bagging 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: groceries in Cedar Falls, Iowa, hoping for a chance to 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: fulfill his dream of playing in the NFL after a 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: stint in the Arena Football League. He would get that 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: chance with the Saint Louis Rams when another player's injury 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety nine would open the door for Warner 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: to take over his quarterback I. 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Was surrounded by unbelievable talents. I was surrounded by a 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: coach that wanted to play aggressive football, which is the 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: way that I like to play, and so all of 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: those things just kind of lined up perfectly for me. 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: And takeover he did, leading the Rams in their high 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: powered offense nicknamed the Greatest Show on Turf, to their 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: first Super Bowl title, and the. 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: Rams have won the Super Bowl. 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: Warner and Brenda Warner. 43 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: And that that unbelievable story apps like this. 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: Yes, Warner was named Super Bowl MVP. His career would 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: include two more trips to the Super Bowl, two League 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: MVP awards, a slew of passing records, and eventually induction 47 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Warner's story is 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: so unbelievable it sounds like a movie, and in fact, 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: it was fifty tail on one read and the Rams 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: thirty four yard return. The twenty twenty one film titled 51 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: American Underdog chronicled his journey. But as much as the 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: sport has given him, for Kurt Warner, family always comes 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: first over football. 54 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: Football, not even close. 55 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: I mean, there's few things that you enjoy. 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: And I mean, my career was great and I wanted 57 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: to accomplish so many different things, but there is nothing 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: better than watching your kids succeed in their passions. 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: Two of his kids are following in their dad's legendary footsteps, 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: Cade Warner, who was a wide receiver and captain for 61 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: two major college teams, Nebraska and Kansas State, and who 62 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: recently participated in an NFL preseason camp with the Tampa 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers. And then there's Elijah ej. Warner, who's the 64 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: starting quarterback for the Temple University Owls. Both credit their 65 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: dad and their mom, Brenda, for inspiring and pushing them 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: not only to play football, but to use it as 67 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: a platform to give back. 68 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: I mean me, Elijah really really the best of the 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: parents we have, and to have this platform that we 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: get to play the game of football. 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: You get to impact the world just because he played 72 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: the game of football, and I think as a family, 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: I think it's brought us closer together. 74 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: Before I turned to the boys and bring them in. 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: Often you hear from athletes it was my dream. I 76 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: attained my dream by making it to the pros. When 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: did you dream about being a pro football player? 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: I think pro athlete more so than football player was 79 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: at an earlier stage. 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: I just remember. 81 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: It was a third or fourth grade and we did 82 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: a project on what you want to be when you 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: get older. For me, as far back as I can remember, 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a professional athlete. And it didn't 85 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: really matter because I played every sport, whatever season it 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: was football, basketball, baseball, soccer, I played anything, but I 87 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: knew that's what I wanted to do. I didn't know 88 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: until a little bit later. You know that it was 89 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: going to be football, or that I was gravitating more 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: towards football. But I knew from a young age that 91 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a professional athlete. 92 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: Kate, I know for sure you played a bunch of 93 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: sports when you were in high school, right, You played basketball, 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: you ran track and field, EJ. I assumed there was 95 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: more than football to your high school career. Were you 96 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: naturally draw into football? Was that an automatic in the house? Yeah? 97 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 4: Growing up, it was always football. That's kind of my 98 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: first memory is just growing up playing football, maybe not 99 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: wanting to at first, but growing to love it. And 100 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: then when we got older and older, my dad mete 101 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 4: us play more than one sport. And I think that 102 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 4: the more you can play different sports, the mark can 103 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 4: help you with football. 104 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: And you said that at first you didn't want to. 105 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Does that mean you were afraid of playing football? Forced? Forced? Yeah? 106 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, force with a capital F maybe, but no, it 107 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 4: was just and it wasn't even like I was It 108 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: was forced like that, but it was just the you know, 109 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: I felt like I should play. 110 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: Let's make sure that the listener understands was the force 111 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: with a capital AFT and a little bit of sarcasm 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: or was. 113 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 4: That it was a little bit of sarcasm. 114 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: But you were serious. You wanted the kids to play football. 115 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted them to experience athletics, knowing what it 116 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: had given to me. I always thought it was important 117 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: to make sure that the kids were involved in something, 118 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: were connected to a team, had chances to be involved 119 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: in that kind of community for the things that they 120 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: would learn. And they were both obviously great athletes from 121 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: a young age as well, so it wasn't much of 122 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: a stretch. I mean, they loved playing any game, anything 123 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: that we would do in the backyard. They loved athletics 124 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: in general. 125 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: EJ. Were you drawn to being a quarterback because of 126 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: your dad? Not necessarily. 127 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: I remember starting out as a running back and just 128 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: really fall in love with the game of football, and 129 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 3: I think as I got older, I began to realize 130 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 3: that the jeanes my dad passed down to me weren't 131 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: the most gifted athletically, so I realized that quarterback would 132 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: be my best position that I would have to play 133 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: moving forward if I wanted to play at the next level. 134 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: I wanted to continue to play the game, but once 135 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: I got into it and really got to just be 136 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: with my dad all the time and just talk that 137 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: quarterback position. I think I really fell in love with 138 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: on the field of quarterback, but also off the field 139 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: with the x's and o is the mental side of 140 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: the game. 141 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: If only this wasn't a podcast and our listeners could 142 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: have seen your dad's face when you said he wasn't 143 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: the most gifted athletically. 144 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, my kids don't remember me when 145 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: I was actually an athlete. They only remember me as 146 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: the old guy that was slow and couldn't do anything athletically, 147 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: So that's how they see dad. 148 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: Now you can now answer the question about whether your 149 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: just natural talents came out and sort of took you 150 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: to being a wide receiver as opposed to being a quarterback, 151 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: or did you try to be a quarterback like your dad, 152 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: or did you stay away from it because you just 153 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: didn't want to be compared to your dad. 154 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: No, I don't ever remember like staying away from it, 155 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: but I just never was flat out good at it. 156 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: My freshman year of high school, I was started play 157 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: wide receiver when my dad was able to coach me 158 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: a little bit more, and so I was never a 159 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: wide receiver. Through and through, I played almost every position 160 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: on the field when I was really young, besides quarterback. 161 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 4: Then they always tried me out, pull me back, have 162 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: me throw a couple of throws, and then push me 163 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: back to whatever position I was at after they saw 164 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: the atrocity that was my deep throw. 165 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: So John, I don't ever remember him having a desire 166 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: to ever throw the football, but I do remember that 167 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: when we showed up the first practice, you could tell 168 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: they were just kind of like, Hey, we got Kurt 169 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: Warner's son here, We're going to have our quarterback. And 170 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: then I swear Kid would just sabotage it, and you 171 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: know the disappointment on the coe his faces, But it 172 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: was just Cade's way of going, I am not playing quarterback. 173 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do what I want to do. And 174 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: I think what he wanted to do was be an athlete, 175 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, go out there and make plays, get the 176 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: ball in his hands, and that's where he always thrived. 177 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: Since we're on the topic of being a Warner, did 178 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: you guys feel the pressure did you feel like EJ 179 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: particularly playing the same position. Oh, I'm a Warner. People 180 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: are going to expect big things. 181 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you definitely could feel the pressure just 182 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: that outside noise and people always eyeing you down trying 183 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: to see, ah, is he going to be as good 184 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 3: as his dad? But I think I expect more out 185 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: of myself than anyone else does out of me. So 186 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: even if they have all these high expectations, I really 187 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: just believe in myself and know what I can do 188 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: as a player as opposed to what my dad did. 189 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: I think that was a really good answer, you, Jay, 190 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: But no, I mean for me, it was just I 191 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 4: didn't really care what people really thought too much, and 192 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 4: I was growing up and so I never felt that 193 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: external pressure. But I was also never a quarterback and 194 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 4: it was earlier on, so it was a bunch of 195 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 4: different things. I didn't feel that pressure as much as 196 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: I'm sure Elijah has. But as you said, you know, 197 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: pressure to make diamonds, right, Ejay? 198 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Being the older sibling, Kaid wasn't able to 199 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: be coached by his dad until middle school because he 200 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: was still playing for the Cardinals. Ej was more fortunate 201 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: since he began playing once his dad was retired, and 202 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: having an NFL Superstar signal caller as a father is 203 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: a heck of a cheat code for a kid learning 204 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: to play quarterback. 205 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: My dad was coaching him in flag football, running NFL 206 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: Pro style concepts and four on four with the flags 207 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: that pop off against other teams that were just trying 208 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: to figure it out. For me, my dad was playing 209 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: retired when I was later on, so my dad coached me. 210 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: I think eighth grade was early this year when I 211 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: was full back, and then a little bit in high school, 212 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 4: and then much more in high school later on. So 213 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: for me, when he finally got to coach me and 214 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 4: really sit down with me and teach me the game, 215 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 4: I absorbed everything I could. 216 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, like you're saying, when we first started 217 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: playing fag football, that that first day when he was 218 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: teaching me the playbook and I'm just a little first 219 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: grader at the time, second grader, just looking at all 220 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: these different plays, saying, we really have to learn all 221 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 3: of these routes, and just like how complicated it was 222 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 3: at that time, and just over the years, how much 223 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: more simplified it got for me, and how much more 224 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: I started to understand it and why we ran these 225 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: things and how they all connected together. But yeah, just 226 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: as that scared little young kid when I first learned 227 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: from my dad the playbook that he ran it was 228 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: pretty tough or. 229 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: Looking over the middle touchdown, I'm on Anderson Junior five 230 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass for Warder. 231 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: Mastering the playbook was one of the keys to Kurt 232 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: Warner's success, but it still took years to break through. 233 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: His first attempt to make it in the NFL was 234 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four. An undrafted free agent, he tried 235 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: to earn a spot as a backup to Brett Farv 236 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: with the Green Bay Packers, but was released before the 237 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: season began. He returned to Iowa, where he bagged groceries 238 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: at a local supermarket to make ends meet. From there, 239 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: he spent two prolific seasons with the Iowa Barnstormers of 240 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: the Arena Football League, then played on the NFL's European 241 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: circuit to him joining the Saint Louis Rams. During the 242 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine preseason, starter Trent Green went down with 243 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: a season ending knee injury. Kurt Warner, just a few 244 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: years removed from bagging groceries and playing Arena league football, 245 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: was now a starting NFL quarterback. That season, he threw 246 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: for over forty three hundred yards, forty one touchdowns, and 247 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: led the Rams to a Super Bowl Championship. He also 248 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: won the first of his two NFL MVP Awards. Warner's 249 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: patience and preparation paid off in spades. Kurt, I'm going 250 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: to ask you about this, which is clearly your story 251 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: has resonated with people inside of football and outside of football, 252 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: especially thanks to the big screen and the film American Underdog. 253 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: But you have the rags to riches football story, right. 254 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: Everybody remembers the packing the groceries and working in the 255 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 2: grocery store as you tried to make your way in 256 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: professional football. But one of the things that really stands 257 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: out is that when you finally make it to the 258 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: and have a solid position on a team, but you're 259 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: a backup and Trent Green goes down and you come 260 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: in and you take the reins and that's it. It's 261 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: off to the races. Is that because you were so 262 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: well prepared, did you know the playbook that well? 263 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: First of all, I think it was always one of 264 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: my strengths, the ability to understand what was going on, 265 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: to process information. But I was also a student of 266 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: the game. So when I was a backup to Trent Green, 267 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: I would ask him questions at nauseum and I think 268 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: that was a big part of it, is just always 269 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: trying to understand it and make it make sense to 270 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: me and figure out how it fit into my mindset. 271 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: So when I did get that opportunity, I could be successful. 272 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: But you know, I think preparation is always a part 273 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: of it. I don't think you're ever successful doing anything 274 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: if you're not prepared. And so I think it was 275 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: a perfect storm when I got together with the rams Is. 276 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: We played in a system that fit my skill set. 277 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: I was surrounded by unbelievable talent. I was surrounded by 278 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: a coach that wanted to play aggressive football, which is 279 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: the way that I like to play, and so all 280 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: of those things just kind of lined up perfectly for me. 281 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: So when my opportunity did come, all those things played 282 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: out to allow me to have success very early. 283 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: Kaiti and Eja, you were both particularly young when your 284 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: dad was still playing football. I'm curious what you remember. 285 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: But I'm also curious since so much has been made 286 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: about the bagging groceries, has too much been made about 287 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: that over the years, or was that a valuable lesson 288 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: that your dad constantly brought up to you as you 289 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: were growing. 290 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: Up definitely important because it can relate to any aspect 291 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: of life. I mean, it obviously involves sports in this 292 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: situation where my dad went on to then become an 293 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: NFL quarterback, but I think anybody in any situation can 294 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: kind of take that to heart and get a message 295 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: and be inspired by that story, whether you're raising kids, 296 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 3: whether you're at work, just always trying to do your best, 297 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: no matter what situation you're in, always trying to be 298 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: prepared for that next level. He has a good quote 299 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: where you have to do what you have to do 300 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: until you get to do what you want to do, 301 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: And I think that was just important for him to 302 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 3: teach us those lessons that it's not always going to 303 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: be easy. I think just showing us that if you 304 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: put in the work and you trust yourself and you 305 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: do what you're supposed to do, that the good things 306 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: will come. 307 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: Kid. As it specifically relates to your career, I mean 308 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: your dad's career and yours, they mirror each other in 309 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: a lot of ways, and that he came out of 310 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: high school, didn't have a big offer from a big school, 311 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: ends up at the University of Northern Iowa. You come 312 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: out of Arizona as a highly touted high school football player, 313 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: but you don't have a scholarship offer, and so I imagine 314 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: those lessons and knowing what your dad went through really 315 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: meant a lot to you. Yeah, they one hundred percent. 316 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: It's really cool for me to be able to have 317 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: somebody in my circle that's been through a lot of 318 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: the things that I've been through. And I'm so blessed 319 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: to be able to have a mother and a father 320 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: and an older brother and a whole family that's gone 321 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: through so much adversity to be able to fall back 322 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 4: on whenever I feel like I'm going through some tough kurt. 323 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: When Cad didn't get drafted, was there a conversation between 324 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: the two of you about was his head down? Was 325 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: he thinking, oh gosh, now what do I do? 326 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: I think those conversations had been had all through his journey. 327 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: It's easy to kind of look at that and go, well, 328 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm not getting what I'm supposed to have. I'm not 329 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: going to be able to accomplish what i want to accomplish. 330 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: But similar to my situation in the grocery store, Okay, 331 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: just put his head down and he worked, and I 332 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: think there was part of that that said, hey, my 333 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: dad had some things that didn't go his direction. It 334 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: doesn't define where you have to end up at the 335 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: end of the day. EJ was in a very similar situation. 336 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: So for an injury when he was a junior, you know, 337 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: missing his junior year and then playing his senior year, 338 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: and you know, some things happened in the recruiting process 339 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: and not probably as highly touted as as he should 340 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: have been because of the player that he was. And 341 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: so you know, he takes the opportunity at Temple, becomes 342 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: the starter and then becomes a you know, true freshman 343 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: All American order, takes. 344 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: A shot toward the ut zone, and what a catch. 345 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: I often say everybody has their supermarket moment. Everybody has 346 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: that moment where where their dream gets sidetracked a little 347 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: bit and they find themselves on a different path and 348 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: they wonder what the future has in store for them, 349 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: and they've got to figure out in that moment, where 350 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: am I going to go. I think that's a part 351 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: of so many different journeys. And when these two guys, 352 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, no matter what they 353 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: do and have success doing, I think they'll look back 354 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: at those different parts of their journey up to this 355 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: point and go. 356 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: You know, that was a defining moment for me. When 357 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: we return. Kurt Warner on the worry he faces as 358 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: he watches his kids play football. 359 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: When I was playing, I never once stepped on a 360 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: field and never thought about being injured or thought about 361 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: getting hit. 362 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: That was just a part of the game. 363 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: But when you step and you watch from afar, and 364 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: you watch as a loved one, or as a father 365 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: or as a mother, that is something that goes through 366 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: your mind quite often because you do understand the physicality 367 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: of this game. 368 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: Part of the game will be right back and now 369 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: back to part of the game. Most dads understandably feel 370 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: a certain degree of pride in having their children following 371 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 2: their professional footsteps. For a pro football player, it's a 372 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: bit more complicated. While it could be a richly rewarding career, 373 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: it also comes with many downsides, including the physical toll 374 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: the game takes on the body. Kurt Warner understands the 375 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: inevitability of injury in football all too well. He got 376 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: his big break replacing another player who suffered an injury. 377 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: Kurt also suffered multiple concussions, broken fingers, and knee injuries 378 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: during his twelve year career. 379 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: It's funny because you know, when I was playing, I 380 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: would always hear how my wife saw the game. What 381 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: she would always tell me is that when I'm watching 382 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: you play, I can't just sit back like a fan 383 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: and experience the joy of you throwing a good pass. 384 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm always watching the see do you get hit? And 385 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: if you get hit, do you get up? And I 386 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: never really understood that when I had the helmet on, 387 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: because it's like, well, don't worry about that stuff. Just 388 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: watch and enjoy. You know, this is what I love 389 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: to do. Don't worry about it from that perspective. And 390 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: then you become a father and you start watching your 391 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: kids play, and I started to realize I watch it 392 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: the same way. Kate makes a great play and the 393 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: first thing I think is, okay, so getting up? 394 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: Is he injured? Okay? 395 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: Once he gets up, then you start to celebrate the moment. 396 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: The same thing with EJ. As I watch ball leaves 397 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: his hand and there's a split second where I'm just 398 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: watching him, Okay, did that defensive end come off the 399 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: edge and did he hit him? Then I watch the 400 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: completion and then I you know, want to see in 401 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: pen and make sure that EJ's up getting back into 402 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: the huddle. When I was playing, I never once stepped 403 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: on a field and never thought about getting hit. But 404 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: when you step and you watch as a loved one, 405 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: or as a father or a mother, that is something 406 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: that goes through your mind quite often, because you do 407 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: understand the physicality of this game. 408 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: As you've probably all heard, and one NFL former NFL 409 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: player told me, this is not a contact sport football, 410 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: It's a collision sport. 411 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: You know. 412 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: That came to light probably more than ever beyond the 413 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: world of football, when mar Hamlin went down this year 414 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: this past season, the defensive back for the Buffalo Bills 415 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: on national television, and all of a sudden it became 416 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: part of the dialogue for an entire nation about how 417 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: dangerous football is. Kurt, when you played, you had a teammate. 418 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: You threw a ball, Dan Kwam Bolden. He takes a 419 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: big hit. What taken Bolden? 420 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: Shaken up on the play. 421 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: That's not good. Boy. 422 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: You don't want to see this late. You don't ever 423 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: see this, but late in the game, in this circumstances. 424 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: This is a coach's worst nightmare, right now, and there 425 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: was talk at the time that that impacted you enough 426 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: that you even considered retirement. Do I have that correct? 427 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: You do have that correct. There is a level when 428 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: we play that we feel we're in. You feel like 429 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen to you. But then anytime 430 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: it does, whether it's you suffering an injury or to 431 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: your point, John, when I, you know, was kind of 432 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: a part of one of my teammates suffering traumatic injury. 433 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: That's what kind of stops you in your tracks and 434 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: it makes you go, Okay, we're not invincible, and it 435 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: becomes more personal. It's a part of the process to 436 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: have to work through those things, you know, and understand 437 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: the risks that go into it, and understand the rewards 438 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: or the love for the sport and trying it to 439 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: juggle all of that and manage all of that. And 440 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: you know, I look back now and tell people I 441 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: would do it all over again. You know, I loved 442 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: every minute of it, but there were a select few 443 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: moments where I did step back, and ankus situation was 444 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: one of those. As I suffered a head injury, you know, 445 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: in my last year of playing. That was another time 446 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: as I knew the end was getting closer where you 447 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: start to contemplate life beyond football. But it's a hard 448 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: thing to do, especially when you're young and you've got 449 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: this dream. I think for a big period of time 450 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: we push that away, We push it away, and you know, 451 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: quite frankly, you have to to a degree if you're 452 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: going to go out and play this game, you've got 453 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: to be able to kind of push that to the side. 454 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: But I hope at the same time you can always 455 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: be realistic with where you're at. For me, it was 456 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: stepping away at the right time, so you know, before 457 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: any of those things happened, I could get to do 458 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: what I'm doing now, coach my boys in high school football, 459 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: or watch them play, or you know, run around with 460 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: my grandkids and not have you know, these lingering injuries 461 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: that slow me down and affect me. So it's a 462 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: tough balance, but without question, you have to have that 463 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: balance when you're playing the game. 464 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: As you made the transition from professional athlete into being 465 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: a father and a grandfather and such. How different is 466 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: your exercise routine today? How closely do you watch your 467 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: diet and your nutrition? 468 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: You know, my exercise it's part of again, I think 469 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: being a pro athlete is that exercise and working out 470 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: becomes just part of the fabric. It's part of who 471 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: you are. And so I still work out five six 472 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: days a week, not of course, as intense as as 473 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: these guys do, now, you know, not doing the same 474 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: kinds of power lifts and you know, heavy weights that 475 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: those guys are doing. But you know, to me, it 476 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: was important that I felt like I wanted to stay 477 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: in good shape. I wanted to be healthy, I wanted 478 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: to be able to be active. But more importantly, I 479 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: just felt like it was important to do something every 480 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: day and not maybe let a long career catch up 481 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: to me when you know, I started to kind of 482 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: just sit on the couch and not do anything. And 483 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: so the diet part of it not quite so much 484 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: yet I tell people all the time I work out 485 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: so I can eat what I want, because I just 486 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: think there's a mental side to all of this as well, 487 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, staying healthy, and part of the mental process 488 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: is being able to enjoy life. And so one of 489 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: the things I enjoy is eating different foods or having 490 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: a pizza when I want, or have a dessert when 491 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: I go out, And so I don't think I eat crazy. 492 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, I don't just eat whatever all the time, 493 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: but it's important. It's just not the most important thing 494 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: for me. 495 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: Kate and EJ, what sort of lessons did you pick 496 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: up from your dad in staying healthy and how do 497 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: you think things have changed for today's athletes. 498 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 4: Growing up, I always sell my dad working out, and 499 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 4: even if we were on a family vacation somewhere, he 500 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: was finding a band or a dumbbell or a stairs 501 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 4: to run on. So I think that played a lot 502 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 4: in what I do now is just always trying to 503 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 4: do something, always trying to get better, always trying to 504 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 4: improve your conditioning, just do something to stay active so 505 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 4: you feel a little bit better about your physical self 506 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 4: at the moment. 507 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: And so I learned a lot about that. 508 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: I learned absolutely nothing about dieting from him, but that 509 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: on that side of the spectrum, I learned a lot. 510 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: Truth and John, that is probably the biggest difference I 511 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: see now in the game is that you know, so 512 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: many of the athletes now have their own diet plans, 513 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: or they have a dietrician or even in the facility. 514 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: And when kid's at Nebraska or a kay State, you know, 515 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: after the work out. They've got balanced meals set up 516 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: for them, which was never really a part of things 517 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: when I played. It just wasn't a part of the 518 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: fabric of things where now I think these guys have 519 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: such an advantage, not just because of where they're at 520 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: and you know what has provided for him, but the 521 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: mindset to go. Man, this helps me a perform better, 522 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: but it also helps to prolong the ability to perform 523 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: at that level. 524 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: I want to point out it's quite obvious to you 525 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: and maybe to a lot of people who are listening 526 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: to us, that your dad had a Hall of Fame career. 527 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: He is in the NFL's Hall of Fame. I don't 528 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: know if you think about him like that, as a 529 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame quarterback or you just think of him 530 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: as dad. 531 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it's definitely more so Dad and 532 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: the way he raised us is trying to not even 533 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: things about football, right, The life is bigger than the game, 534 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: so I think always going to them for support, just 535 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: like anybody would with their dad, and different scenarios off 536 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: the field. But then, of course he knows a little 537 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: bit more about the game of football than most other 538 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: dads do, so of course leaning on him for those 539 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: different things and trying to learn as much as I 540 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 3: can from him, but always Dad first in those scenarios, 541 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: and I know that I feel safe going to him 542 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: with anything I need and especially football questions, can get 543 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: some valuable stuff out of him. 544 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: Knowing that your dad is a Hall of Famer and 545 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: you try and carve out your own legacy in football. 546 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: What are some of the goals you've set for yourself? EJ. 547 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: Of course, I want to play in the league for 548 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: as long as possible. I mean, I love the game 549 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: so much and for as long as I can. I 550 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 3: want to play at a high level and hopefully get 551 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: to the next level and hopefully have accessful college career 552 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: and win a lot of games with my teammates, but 553 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 3: not really setting too much precedent on specific things I 554 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: need to hit. I'm not trying to be as good 555 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: as my dad or anything specific like that, just really 556 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: trying to be the best version of myself and wherever 557 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: that takes me, it takes me. 558 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the interesting part of my 559 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 4: goals are that a lot of them aren't really football related. 560 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: So and what I mean by that is football. 561 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 4: I think is such a fantastic sport because it gives 562 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: you such a huge foundation to do so many incredible things. 563 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 4: And so, like a huge goal of mine is growing up, 564 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 4: every single year, my dad and mom would take all 565 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 4: of us kids and tend make a wish families to 566 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 4: Disney World every single year and just try to give 567 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: them the week of their life. And I think that 568 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 4: is probably my number one goal in life, is to 569 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 4: be able to have the foundation that football is able 570 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 4: to give me, to be on that platform to impact 571 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 4: so many people like that. So that's one of my 572 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 4: huge goals obviously, Like this year, I want to make 573 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: the active roster, and I want to do so many 574 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 4: things in that regard. But I have a lot of 575 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: goals that I can't get there without football, but they're 576 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 4: not exactly football goals. 577 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: Giving back is a Warner family creedom. During his playing days, 578 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: Curtin Brenda would take their kids out to dinner and 579 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: pick out a table at random and pay for that 580 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: group's dinner. Those gestures, along with the work he does now, 581 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: help teach the Warner kids to understand the impact they 582 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: can have on the lives of those who are not 583 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 2: as fortunate. Along with the first thing's first foundation, Kurt 584 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: and Brenda founded Treasure House Phoenix, an active living community 585 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: for young adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities. That project 586 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: was inspired by their oldest child, Zachary. 587 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: Treasure House is kind of our latest foundation in our 588 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: Passion project, which it's a community living facility for young 589 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities. So those that are 590 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: listening that may not have seen the movie or may 591 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: not know our story. Our oldest son, Zachary, suffered a 592 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: traumatic brain injury when he was four months old, and 593 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, he's overcome the odds in so many different ways, 594 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: but one of the challenges is living independently. So we 595 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: want all of our kids to have that full life 596 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: and to be able to chase their passions and experience 597 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: what community is all about. But zach can't do it 598 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: in you know, an individual fashion that he needs those 599 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: to kind of oversee and be there with him all 600 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: the time. So Treasure House, we've built one here in Phoenix, 601 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: and our goal is to build those across the country 602 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe one day across the world, so 603 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: that you know, those families that have children with disabilities 604 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: can live that full life and experience all the things 605 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: that all of other kids experience. 606 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: EJ and Kaid's love for their father is obvious, as 607 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: is their respect for what he's accomplished in life, on 608 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: and off the field. But that doesn't mean they'll pass 609 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: up a chance to rib their old man, because while 610 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: he may be a Hall of Famer to the rest 611 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: of us, to them, he's just Dad. We started this 612 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: conversation with EJ talking about your athletic ability or lack thereof, 613 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: just to have a little bit of fun with this. 614 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: EJ and Kaid, you have any idea how many rushing 615 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: yards your dad had as an NFL quarterback over the 616 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: length of his career. 617 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 4: I would say, what do you think, Elijah, what would 618 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: you say? I would say a low two hundreds. 619 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: I can't be over three hundred. So I looked up 620 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: a list of the NFL career passing yards leaders, of 621 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: which your dad is on at a thirty two thousand plus. 622 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: I have that right, Kurt, Yes, all right, So in 623 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: rushing yards your dad had drum roll plays two hundred 624 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: eighty six yards rushing. Wow. Now there's only three people 625 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: who have fewer rushing yards as quarterbacks who are on 626 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: that list. One is Dan Marino. Okay, who had the 627 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: lowest number of yards fewest number of yards eighty seven yards, 628 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: So you're in good company with Dan Marino. Wow, Steve 629 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: de Bergh just two hundred rushing yards over the course 630 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: of his career and it was a long career. But 631 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: then here's an interesting twist. Somebody else who's in this 632 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: category also played for the Saint Louis football team then 633 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 2: known as the Cardinals, So he touches both lines that 634 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: your dad touched right playing in Saint Louis, but as 635 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: a Cardinal undred and seven yards for Jim Hart. There 636 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: you go. But Kurt, two hundred and eighty six rushing 637 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: yards and three tds. I should not ignore the three 638 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: touchdowns in your career. What was his longest touchdown run? Oh, 639 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: I don't know that you've trumped me. That's not fair. 640 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: It can't be over a yard and a half. It 641 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: is definitely over a yard and a half. Yeah, it's 642 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: not much more than that. No, no long touchdown runs 643 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: in my career. 644 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: But again, see, my job was not to run the football. 645 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: John wasn't what I was supposed to do, So you 646 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: can't use that against me. 647 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: Kurt, I would never hold it against you because you 648 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: have two hundred and eighty six more rushing yards than 649 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: I do in the NFL and a heck of a 650 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: lot more passing yards. So I certainly do not. And 651 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: by the way, I mean, like when you think about 652 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: what your dad has done. I don't know if you 653 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: know all of his statistics and accomplishments in the company 654 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: that he keeps, but he's one of only four quarterbacks 655 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: to have started the Super Bowl with two different teams. 656 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: Did you guys know that? Oh? He tells us every. 657 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, But yeah, we've heard 658 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 4: that one. 659 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: You've heard that one along with Peyton Manning, Tom Brady 660 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: and Craig Morton, another guy from before your time. But 661 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: that's also pretty darn good company. Guys, you've been so good. 662 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: But before you go, I would like you each to 663 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: boil it down for me in your own way. What 664 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: is the heart of the game to you? 665 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: The heart of the game for me, it's competition. That's 666 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: what I think the beauty of football is. It's not 667 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: about one player. You've got to depend on the other 668 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: fifty two guys to do their job if you're going 669 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: to be successful and then the other thing is, you know, 670 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: we talked earlier about football being a physical game. I 671 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: never really looked at football as a physical game. What 672 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: I always loved about football was the mental side of 673 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: things is I don't believe, especially at the quarterback positions, 674 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: there's a more complicated, intricate game than the game of football. 675 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, knowing where different guys are, and all the 676 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: different defenses you can see, and all the different plays 677 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: that you run. And that, to me was the heart 678 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: of this game is that it's still as physical as 679 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: it is, it's still a thinking man's game. 680 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: What is the heart of the game to you, EJ. 681 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: I think that mental side where just how you can 682 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: out strategically play against these other teams and kind of 683 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: have a little chess match between the offense and defense. 684 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: It just was really special, and that mental side of 685 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: the game is what I've fallen in love with with it. 686 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: And I think that's definitely the big factor that that 687 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: not a lot of people look at when they watch 688 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: a game of football. 689 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: What is the heart of the game to you? 690 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: Cade the teamwork aspect of it all. I mean, there's 691 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 4: fifty three guys on a team and eleven guys out 692 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 4: there at a time, and twenty two out there that play, 693 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 4: And so I think that there is no greater sport 694 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 4: that demands more out of a greater group of guys 695 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: than football. You can't have one person take over an 696 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: entire game like basketball and a bunch of other sports. 697 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: Football is the ultimate team sport to me. And then toughness. 698 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 4: There's not a lot of sports that really get down 699 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 4: to the nitty gritty of it of getting back up 700 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 4: every time you get hit, or making that play getting 701 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 4: hit and getting back up. I think that those two 702 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 4: things are where drives football well and beyond any other. 703 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: Sport for me, Football, philanthropy, family. The Warner boys take 704 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: all three very seriously, but they also know how to 705 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: enjoy themselves and celebrate each other. Kate and EJ. Warner's 706 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: football futures are yet to be written, but their father 707 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: will be there cheering them on every pass, every reception. 708 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: And if there's one thing we know, it's never to 709 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: count a Warner out. On the next episode of Heart 710 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: of the Game, What does it take to do the 711 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: right thing even when it's hard, Well, here some of 712 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: the wisdom US soccer legend John Harks is passing down 713 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: to his son, major League soccer star Ian Harks. 714 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 5: You can never be wrong doing the right thing, and 715 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 5: so we always said keep your head even keeled through 716 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 5: that process. We are always just trying to find a 717 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 5: balance as best as we could to prepare them for 718 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 5: what was coming. 719 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: Part of the Game is a production of Ruby Studio 720 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: from iHeartMedia. Our show is hosted by me John Frankel. 721 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: Our executive producer is Matt Romano, our EP of Post 722 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: Production is Matt Stillo, Our supervising producer is Nikiah Swinton, 723 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: and our writer and researcher is Mike Avo. Thanks for listening. 724 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.