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Speaker 1: Oh good time, Steve Taspertown Touchdown, text time, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Everybody, Happy Monday to you. It's One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health from One Bill's Drive. This

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. I'm Steve Task and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: once again by an all time favorite on our show,

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Speaker 1: the go to guy, Murphy Ride. Yes, when when Murf

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Speaker 1: and I take a day, which Murph has taken a

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Speaker 1: day today, Brownie is the guy. So Chris Brown Bills Insider,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here, man, Thanks for ken. I know

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Speaker 1: it's great. You know, I don't know how great the

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Speaker 1: way it is to start your week off doing this

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Speaker 1: with me, but nevertheless, we appreciate you here in our

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Speaker 1: end of it here. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you

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Speaker 1: did you catch all the games over the weekend? I

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Speaker 1: caught mote. I caught the first game yesterday and its entirety.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of in and out on the Eagles

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Speaker 1: Bears game, and I caught most of the games, most

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Speaker 1: of the two games on Saturday. Right. It was funny

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Speaker 1: because a lot of the people that I was sitting

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Speaker 1: sitting around with watching these games. Right, the prevailing opinion,

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Speaker 1: especially for yesterday's games boring. All these people, you know,

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Speaker 1: got spoiled with all the scoring we saw on the

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Speaker 1: regular season. You know, the first seven weeks of the year,

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Speaker 1: Steve we got you know, the NFL was setting a

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Speaker 1: record for most points scored in a in a single season,

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Speaker 1: you know, combining thirty two teams, what have you. And

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Speaker 1: I know that slowed down a little bit towards the

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Speaker 1: second half of the year, but you know, some pretty

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Speaker 1: good defenses are still in the playoffs, so you know,

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Speaker 1: producing points is going to be a little bit tougher.

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Speaker 1: And it's different slinging it around in January in Chicago

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Speaker 1: than it is throwing it around it in uh October

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Speaker 1: in LA Right right, I mean asked you know, if

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Speaker 1: you haven't heard of Cody Park, he's having a rough Monday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder if forgive me for not feeling

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Speaker 1: much sympathy for a team losing a wild card round

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Speaker 1: game by a missed field goal. You know, yeah, Cody Park,

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Speaker 1: he's a good kid, and the kick got deflected. Nobody

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Speaker 1: knew it last night, and uh he he took it

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Speaker 1: like a man, took the criticism like a man tried

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Speaker 1: to do his job and Uh. You know, you find

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Speaker 1: out later on that the kick got deflected by a

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Speaker 1: guy up front. Um. Otherwise maybe it does go through.

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Speaker 1: We'll never know. But you know the Pickers are out

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs because of the Eagles. Right. Well, you

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Speaker 1: could see the un the enhanced video how the fingers

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Speaker 1: uh kind of takes man snapped back. His first three

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Speaker 1: the ball clearly. He said he got it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and you could see it and and that's more than enough.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, I'm surprised the thing got got there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he got a good piece of it. And uh,

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Speaker 1: well the kick was deflected, went off the upright, went

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Speaker 1: the mascot wood Bears. What are your thoughts about the

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Speaker 1: icing the kicker with the time out thing? It worked?

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Speaker 1: But what's your like you think? Do you think that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. I'm I'm of a mind. I was against it.

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Speaker 1: I'm always I've always been against it. For one thing.

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Speaker 1: Coat Parky got a practice kick right right on the field.

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Speaker 1: He called it. They snap it right before the snap,

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Speaker 1: he called. He kicks it and uh, and he makes

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Speaker 1: the first one, so that one doesn't count because they

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Speaker 1: had a time out right before the kick, right, So

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Speaker 1: then he comes through and then this one gets. The

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Speaker 1: veteran kickers will tell you I hope they do ice

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Speaker 1: it ice because that gives me a bet. You know,

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Speaker 1: now there's no you know, no play clock to worry about,

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Speaker 1: none of this stuff going on. You got to go

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Speaker 1: check all your your everything, you know. Yeah. Ryan Lyndale

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Speaker 1: as well use it. So I don't know it's interested

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Speaker 1: because social media was full of Chicago fans just absolutely

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Speaker 1: ah vilifying Cody Park. Social media is the bane of

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Speaker 1: we know, it's social media media because people can just

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Speaker 1: no repercussions, right unless you commit something that's against the

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Speaker 1: law on there um, So people have no problem spouting off,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you're talking about ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 1: those people wouldn't dare say it to the person's face

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Speaker 1: most of them go on with some sort of um

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Speaker 1: there's no accountability. So that's uh, that's the way it goes.

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Speaker 1: And listen, we got a nice show. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: here till from noon till three one Bills Live Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown alone with Steve Tasker. Uh, we're gonna have Thurman

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Speaker 1: Thomas's coming on the show later like believe it's live

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Speaker 1: in student He's coming in. We're gonna do a phone

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Speaker 1: interview with Sal Palantonio covers the uh Philadelphia Eagles, has

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Speaker 1: very simple. This is Hey, it's a Monday. We're starting slow.

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Speaker 1: What game did you like over the weekend and what

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Speaker 1: did it tell you about the playoffs? And I don't

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Speaker 1: which Wildcard weekend. Basically is what we're asking about calling

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Speaker 1: he comes in what he thought of those games. I'm

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Speaker 1: with all these playoff games, the Deshaun Watson game and

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Speaker 1: and the Houston Texans offensive line has been a mess

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Speaker 1: Week six. I mean, Deshaun Watson was running for his

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Speaker 1: Luck and Reich exploited that with some of their concepts

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Speaker 1: They had a great game plan against Houston going in

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Speaker 1: now is the third time those teams had played during

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Speaker 1: worst families in the world to let your team down.

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Speaker 1: So I feel terrible. You know, I'm gonna continue to

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Speaker 1: put thanks a perspective. UM, continue to just put my

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Speaker 1: best foot forward and and just sleep sleep at night

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Speaker 1: knowing that I did everything in my power this week

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Speaker 1: to go and make that kick, and for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: at the crossbar and the upright and I still couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I still couldn't do it, So, um, yeah, I feel terrible.

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Speaker 1: Wrong another kick Mechanically, No, I thought I hit a

435
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Speaker 1: great ball. He's just trying to play the win. Cody,

436
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Speaker 1: as you were going out there to make that kick

437
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: before the first time out, was cool? What was going

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Speaker 1: through your mind? You were walking from the sideline out

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Speaker 1: to where you were going to start make the field goal,

440
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: nothing else. That's just that's it. What you feeling like.

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00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: You were obviously gonna groove those three in the first half. Yeah, yeah,

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00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 1: confidence was confidence was going. Uh. Like I said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's really no answer to it. I thought I had

444
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Speaker 1: a good ball and unfortunately I just I didn't make it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel terrible, and um take that loss

446
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Speaker 1: on me, and it is what it is. But I mean,

447
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Speaker 1: sound's gonna shine tomorrow. Life's gonna go on, and unfortunately

448
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Speaker 1: it's gonna sing for a while. Well, there you have

449
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Speaker 1: at Cody Parkey and I'm missing the last second field

450
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Speaker 1: goal to win the playoff game for his team, the

451
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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, and their season's over. That's that is hard. Well,

452
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: and it's the finality of it too. It's not like

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Speaker 1: you just lost the game. You lost the game. Your

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Speaker 1: season's over. Yeah, you know you're going in a game

455
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Speaker 1: where you could you make it you win, right and

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Speaker 1: that you know, forty three yards pretty makable field goal

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Speaker 1: this day and age. You know, most kickers are pretty

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Speaker 1: darn good from you know, anywhere between anywhere between anywhere

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Speaker 1: less than forty. You feel like it's going to be

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Speaker 1: one of your normal If you're an eighty five percent kicker,

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Speaker 1: ninety percent is right reasonable. Forty three anything over forty

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Speaker 1: it starts to be a little bit more of a

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Speaker 1: coin flip, you know, and we'll see. But forty ends

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Speaker 1: it was a tough kickoff natural surface. Yeah, so yeah,

465
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: all of that. You can make all excuses you want.

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Speaker 1: The ball got deflected and nobody's calling the guy out

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Speaker 1: who's playing right guard or left guard, you know, I

468
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Speaker 1: mean right, yeah, you know the guy who blocked it,

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Speaker 1: you know, hadn't even been on the roster for the

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Speaker 1: entire season. So there's that as well. So it's, uh,

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Speaker 1: that's that time of year where you got to live

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Speaker 1: with and live with it for a long time. And

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Speaker 1: thanks to our crack staff, the distance between the uprights

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Speaker 1: is eighteen and a half feet diameter of the polls

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Speaker 1: are about four inches in diameter, eighteen and a half

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Speaker 1: feet between three yards three inches, right, No, six yards,

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Speaker 1: three six yards three inches. Well you're talking about this,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about that inside the pipe or the ext

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Speaker 1: four inches in diameter. Well, it's inside of the upright,

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Speaker 1: inside of the upright. Okay, eighteen and a half. So

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Speaker 1: did you know that if if the ball goes over

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Speaker 1: the top of the upright, yeah, if any part of

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Speaker 1: the ball goes over the upright, it's good, right, even

484
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Speaker 1: though the most of the ball is outside. There was

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Speaker 1: a controversial kick in Baltimore a couple of years ago

486
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Speaker 1: that was good one of those Was it good? Was

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Speaker 1: it not good? And it's like, yeah, well that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a tough one too for that ref. That's, you know,

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Speaker 1: underneath one of those uprights, looking straight up, and he's

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Speaker 1: got a tell in the blink of an eye if

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Speaker 1: I know I don't, don't, don't tell me about that.

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Speaker 1: And hey, we can talk about the refs too, because

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00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: that Baltimore game was a joke. That side judge he

494
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 1: should not be reffing next week. And we can get

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Speaker 1: into that one, all right. We got more to talk

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Speaker 1: about We're gonna take a break right here. This is

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chief tasker along with Chris Brown. Murph has

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Speaker 1: got a day off today and good luck to him.

501
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. We'll be here till three o'clock. Brownie.

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00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: One of the things that we want to speak about today.

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00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: The Bills are back at it on free agency. They

504
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Speaker 1: signed a wide receiver from the Canadian Football League named

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Speaker 1: Duke Williams Now. He was undrafted out of two thousand

506
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Speaker 1: and six and twenty sixteen been playing for the Edmonton Eskimos.

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Speaker 1: Big guy, good ball skills, um fast enough, wins a

508
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: lot of fifty fifty balls. He's one of those guys

509
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Speaker 1: and you know, the Bills have had him limited success

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00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: finding guys to catch, you know, to go up and

511
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: be the red zone target. He's six three two twenty five,

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00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: big body. Hard to know exactly what else what he

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00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: brings to the NFL, because you'd get to see him

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Speaker 1: play a different game in Edmonton because a lot more space, Yeah,

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00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: there's a more space. And also It's not like he

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00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: has to release off press coverage or anything like that,

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00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: so you don't get to see that aspect of his game.

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Speaker 1: But down the field, he's been very good for Edmonton.

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Speaker 1: He was a CFL All Star this last Yeah, I mean,

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00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: he had a breakout year up there, averaged almost eighteen

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Speaker 1: yards a catch. He had eighty eight catches for almost

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Speaker 1: sixteen hundred yards and eleven touchdowns in eighteen games. His

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Speaker 1: best game in the year came against the team that

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Speaker 1: eventually won the Great Cup, Calgary, So Edmonton again, he's

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Speaker 1: playing for Edmonton. Against Calgary, he had seven catches for

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy two yards and a touchdown in

527
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Speaker 1: a shootout victory. You know, his history is an interesting one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a JUCO transfer, goes to play

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Speaker 1: at Auburn in college. You know, has a productive season,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a JUCO transfer his first year there,

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Speaker 1: leads to the team in receiving with seven hundred something yards,

532
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: but then has some run ins, violates some team rules,

533
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Speaker 1: ultimately gets kicked off. The team still gets invited to

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Speaker 1: the combine. Doesn't have a great combine, but there are

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Speaker 1: clear there were clearly character concerns and he knew it,

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Speaker 1: and he kind of owned up to it and said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I saw a quote that he had back

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Speaker 1: at the combine where he said, my talent level, I'm

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Speaker 1: a first round pick. My character, I'm a seventh round pick.

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Speaker 1: Well it wasn't even that because he went undrafted. He

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Speaker 1: got signed as a trial player with the Rams, and

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Speaker 1: they liked him enough in rookie minicamp where they did

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Speaker 1: sign him to a contract, added him to their offseason roster,

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Speaker 1: but didn't make the roster, goes up to Canada, has

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Speaker 1: a couple of good years and now he's kind of

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Speaker 1: on the radar and you know, the reports are out

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Speaker 1: there that the Bills are interested in going to sign him.

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Speaker 1: So he had you know, he was born in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: He went to high school in Louisiana, Mississippi Gulf Coast

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Speaker 1: Community College, then ended up at bar at Auburn, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, he had an incident in a bar

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Speaker 1: and the fact that he owned up to it is

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00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: probably the thing that gives him another chance. He and

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Speaker 1: I had some problems and he's for all account by

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00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: all accounts, he's I think it proves something when when

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Speaker 1: he goes up to Canada and keeps his nose clean,

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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: plays hard. Uh he's not getting rich in Canada. Yeah,

558
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: but uh, he did have a very good season and

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00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: prove that he can keep it between the lines and

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00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: a lot of rides do some guys go out and

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00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: they can't. So combine workout numbers four seven, three forty.

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Speaker 1: You know, for a big guy six three two twenty five,

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Speaker 1: you kind of expect long striders to kind of Some

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Speaker 1: people say he plays faster than any times. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of us are going to know

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Speaker 1: that until he see it in person. But he had

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Speaker 1: a thirty inch vertical and what else did I have here?

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00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: Ten foot one inch broad jump, So you know, he's

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Speaker 1: got some explosiveness. And the numbers kind of speak for themselves.

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Speaker 1: So at least you got to give him credit for

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Speaker 1: making good on a on a second opportunity up in

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Speaker 1: the CFL. You know, just put his head down and

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00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: went to work. Um, but he's you know, and you

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Speaker 1: hope he's kind of on the right track. At this point.

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Speaker 1: You've got to think even for a roster like the Bills,

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Speaker 1: he would be a guy that would be the fourth

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Speaker 1: fifth wide receiver if he's gonna play, and if he

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Speaker 1: does that, he's gonna have to he's gonna play special team.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna do all that stuff and jump ball target

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00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: yeah yeah sure. But to get to the point where

581
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: you're a jump ball guy, you gotta be on the team, well, yeah,

582
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: you got to you. And if you're not gonna be

583
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: the guys it's between the twenties, they're probably not gonna

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00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: just stick you in there and let you jump ball

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00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. But I don't think there's any secret

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Speaker 1: that this is a wide open wide receiving contingent. Gonna

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00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: cast me outside of Robert Foster and Zay Jones, I mean,

588
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: it's pretty wide open. Yeah, I think there's gonna be

589
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people who would uh uh.

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Speaker 1: He's not the first thing. He's not gonna be the

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00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: last coming in the door. And they're gonna have thirteen

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Speaker 1: guys in camp, and what do we know about probably

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00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: four or five of them right now? If that if

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00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: that right? Right? Yeah, I mean they're gonna have they're

595
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Speaker 1: gonna sign another seven or eight wide receivers, probably drafted one.

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Speaker 1: Probably that will go. Uh it'll be interesting, but we'll see.

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00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, but he is a he's a he's a

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00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill, it seems, and nothing official from the team,

599
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: nothing official from the team that yeah, we're we're in

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00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: the wrong end of the building, so right, So that's fine.

601
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: So you're a Steve Tasker and Chris Brown on One

602
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: Bills Live, we're talking about the Wildcard weekend. You can

603
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: get in on the conversation if you would like. Um.

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00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: In fact, I you know, I feel Murph usually handles

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00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: the phone calls. I'm gonna give it a try because

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00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: we've got a guy. He's been holding on for about

607
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: twenty minutes or so. Let's talk to Rick in Williamsville.

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00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: You want to see, uh what Philip Rivers and Andrew

609
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: Luck you'd like to see them meet or maybe just

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00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: keep winning? What is it? Rick? Absolutely meet? Well, I'd

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00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: like to see Rivers go in this. You know it

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00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: might headn't you know? Rivers ticks down New England. Worst

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00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: case if they go head to head, we see their

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00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: boys name, uh, you know, get a trip to see

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00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: Frank Reich. Maybe make it that way. Always love to

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Speaker 1: see New England go down. I'm not a necessarily hater,

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00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: but I live in Buffalo, so I guess I have

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00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: to be a hater. Well, you certainly can get tired

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00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: of seeing him win every year and headed out. They

620
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: got another year where New England is got a bye

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00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: week in the first round of the playoffs, even though

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00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: they're not the number one seed there the number two seed,

623
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: and ultimately, unless Kansas City keeps winning, everything's gonna go

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00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: through Kansas City, and so will the New England Patriots.

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00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: But it's interesting and I get it if we're out

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00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: of the playoffs and this, and I don't know, maybe

627
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: you do this more than I do, Brownie. I don't

628
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: remember in playoff years past rooting for certain people in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs like I am this year. Certainly I'm rooting

630
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: for my friend Frank Raich and the Colts and Andrew

631
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: Lux seems like a great guy. He's been nothing but

632
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: but tremendous. I've covered him a bunch of with CBS.

633
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: He's great and it treats us great. But also Philip Rivers,

634
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: a guy who came out that he was in the

635
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: Old four Draft, has played extremely well for a bad franchise.

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00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: They couldn't get it together. Anthony Lynn, who I'm acquainted

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Speaker 1: with when he from his time here in Buffalo, great guy,

638
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: kind of pulling for them. So those two teams, which

639
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, whatever they're they're the longest shots because of

640
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: their seating. I'm kind of pulling for those guys. There's

641
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: still there's a lot to for Bill's fans, I think

642
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: to kind of like, you know, if we can't be

643
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: in it, let those guys. I'm a lot happier that

644
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is playing against the Patriots than Lamar Jackson

645
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: because Bill Belichick is going to have something for a

646
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. I mean, might even have something for Philip Rivers.

647
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: But I feel a whole lot better about the Chargers

648
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: going in there and playing the Patriots than I do

649
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: about the Ravens. Yes, the Ravens have the number one

650
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: defense in football this year, but they couldn't throw the

651
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: football yesterday. I mean, they could not throw the football.

652
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I just feel a whole lot

653
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: better about the matchup with Rivers going there because I

654
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: remember watching Rivers here in Week two, and I mean

655
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: Poyer and Hyde are two of the best safeties in

656
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: the league in terms of working off one another and

657
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: disguising coverage and more often than not Philip Rivers knew

658
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: what they were doing, and he was changing protections, he

659
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: was changing plays at the line, and that first half

660
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: was a clinic. Yeah here in week two, I mean

661
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: it was a clinic. Well he's still doing it, wasn't. Yeah,

662
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: the Bills weren't the only team that they that Philip

663
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: Rivers made. No, no, no, that's true. But I'm saying

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00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he is good. That's a guy that

665
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: can come up with answers. Your quarterback, maybe in the

666
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: playoffs more than any other time, has to be the

667
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: problem solver. And I feel a whole lot better about

668
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers solving problems against that Patriots defense than they

669
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: do about Lamar Jackson. And it's due mainly to experience

670
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: and having been there before. It doesn't hurt also that

671
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers was a coach's son. I mean, the guy

672
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: came out of the womb studying x's and oh's. So

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00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: if Anybody's going to be able to match wits with

674
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: what Belichick's gonna draw up for that defense, it's Philip Rivers.

675
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Speaker 1: And I think that the Chargers are a better all

676
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: around team in terms of pure talent than the Balton

677
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: more Ravens. I would say their only weakness right now,

678
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: and it was exposed a little bit yesterday, was their

679
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: their offensive line. The Chargers offensive line did have some

680
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: problems with the Ravens yesterday and some of their scheming.

681
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you another thing that I liked in that

682
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: game yesterday, the scheming of Gus Bradley for the Chargers

683
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: defense putting three three safeties, three safeties at linebacker to

684
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: keep Lamar Jackson from getting away from them. I thought

685
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: that was a great plan. Yeah. And here's the thing

686
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: that defied logic for me. And believe me, I don't

687
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: have a trained eye for this. I have never been

688
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: an NFL coach, But I'm sitting there saying to myself,

689
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: why are they not putting two tight ends on the

690
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: field and running at them with these three safeties? Why

691
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: are you not you know what I mean. It's not

692
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: like the Ravens don't have tight ends they can deploy.

693
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: I mean they got Max Williams, the boiled Kid, the

694
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: other tight end hurst get into well personnel and run

695
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: at those three safeties. Why, I don't know it just

696
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: they barely played their second and third tight ends. They

697
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: played like sixteen seventeen snaps in the entire game. Why

698
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: aren't you going big personnel or go extra line, go

699
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: with six offensive alignment like the Bills did this year

700
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: and run at that all Right, here's the big question.

701
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: And John Harbaugh addressed it at halftime, and he also

702
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: addressed it after the game. Joe Flacco was asked about it.

703
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: Why in that situation, when Lamar Jackson was obviously a

704
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: little bit overwhelmed until they got started going two minute?

705
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: Why didn't I agree with you? I think if there's

706
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: one thing that that Baltimore Ravens missed yesterday was they

707
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: needed to make some decisions. Man, maybe maybe Lamar limits

708
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: them in this respect. They're should have gone there two

709
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: minute way earlier. Now, certainly the Chargers took their foot

710
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: off the gas defensively, perhaps a little bit. Well, at

711
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: least the last eight minutes they were trading yardage for

712
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: time on the clock. I don't think there was any questions.

713
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: So that's so Lamar Jackson looked better that But why

714
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: don't they do what you said, you know, go heavy

715
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: run at him when they got all those safeties on

716
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: the field. Secondly, did you ever consider, and I was

717
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: thinking about this early. When do you go to Joe Flacco?

718
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: You bring him back in. It's not like Joe Flacco

719
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: is just some guy. He's a Super Bowl MVP. He's

720
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: a guy who's been doing it for ten years. The

721
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: only reason he's sitting on the bench because he had

722
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: a back injury, came off the field and then Lamar,

723
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: they kind of caught lightning in a bottle. Otherwise Joe

724
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: Flacco would have been plugged right back in. Had it

725
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: been a guy, you know, it's just a regular backup

726
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: guy and or whatever, maybe they would have stuck with

727
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: it if they had kept winning, Obviously it would have

728
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: Why not Joe Flacco? Yeah, and Harbaugh was actually asked

729
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: that question by one of your colleagues. She wouldn't even

730
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: address and he said, I'm not going to answer that question. Now.

731
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: Why do you think he doesn't answer that question either?

732
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: A because he is considering it but doesn't really feel

733
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: like communicating that to anybody because he doesn't have the

734
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: second half of the game is going to go or

735
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: be it's ride or die with Lamar, and I'm committed

736
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: to that. I don't know which the answer is, but

737
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I can get behind you wanting to

738
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: give the rookie a chance at the start of the

739
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: second half. Let's see if we can make some adjustments

740
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: and change some things in terms of how it's operating

741
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: on offense. In the second half, they didn't have a

742
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: first down and three first downs through three quarters. Yeah

743
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah yeah, I mean you didn't get a

744
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: first down. Yeah, I mean I can get behind all right.

745
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: You know, we go three and out a couple of

746
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: times here. You know, maybe let's try one. You get

747
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: to the fourth quarter, you're still down twenty to three.

748
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: It's time to bring Joe coolin. I'm sorry, bring the

749
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: guy in. I'm not saying he's gonna win you the game,

750
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: but don't you at least try it the guy I

751
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl for you. I mean, I know

752
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: he hasn't been an effective quarterback the last couple of years,

753
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: doing part to injuries and doing part to injuries at

754
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: the skilled positions where he didn't have a whole lot

755
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: of people to work with. But holy cow, like you

756
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: don't try Ryat post game, Harball did address He said, listen,

757
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: we had the conversation, and not only he said, we

758
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: had it with the coaches. Harball had it with his

759
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Harball had it also with Joe Flacco and

760
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: with Lamar and everybody was on the same He maintains

761
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: that everybody was on the same page, including Joe Flacco,

762
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: who said, listen, you gotta it's not you know, it's

763
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: not the right thing. We're not you know, you gotta

764
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: go with what we got. And so they were all

765
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: on the what's the narrative versation, what's the narrative? The

766
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: narrative trying to protect the kids ego, like, what are

767
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: you doing? The narrative is they did have the conversation,

768
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: that's all. It doesn't matter how the conversation went or

769
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: whether he's being genuine, but he did acknowledge that they

770
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: thought about it. But by that's token, you're trying to

771
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: win the game. That's number one. Win the game. Forget

772
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: about bruised egos and whatever else might be involved, or

773
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: what kind of quarterback controversy are you're gonna have for

774
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: the next week. At least you're playing the next week. Yeah, yeah,

775
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: and I think you got to win the game also too.

776
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: What gets me is and I think, knowing what I

777
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: know about pro coaching staff us in Harbaugh and the

778
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: and the and the Ravens staff and how they do business.

779
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: I would imagine all the things that you talked about, Uh,

780
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: the adjustments they could have made, the personnel changes they

781
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: could have made. I would venture that Lamar limits them

782
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: and their ability to go to that. The reason they

783
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: didn't go to any of that was the limitations of

784
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: their offense with Lamar running it. Well, then again, I'm

785
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: gonna say, what are you doing? Because when what Lamar

786
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: does best isn't happening, and there aren't too many plan

787
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: b's or c's that you can use with Lamar in

788
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: your lineup, then put the veteran in and see if

789
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: he can do a few things for you. Well, here's

790
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: the I mean, holy what are we doing If that's

791
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: the If that's the case, I mean you got to

792
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean how do you How you got to the

793
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: point you're at right now becomes secondary to what you've

794
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: got to do to stay there. And I'll tell you

795
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: this too, And we're seeing shots of it on MSG.

796
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: They cough the ball up like three or four were

797
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: times in the first five minutes of that game, in

798
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: the first half of that game, and then they threw

799
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: the interception as well. In the first half. I mean,

800
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: they were lucky, lucky that their defense held him and

801
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: held them and kept him close, because that could have

802
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: been worse. That could have been the worst blowout of

803
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: the weekend. And we could talk about the side judge, who,

804
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: in my opinion, shouldn't be working next week. The side

805
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: judged by the goal line on the Derek the fullback

806
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: for the Chargers, Derek Watt makes that catch down by

807
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: the goal line and he's not touched, he's on the ground.

808
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: He rolls into the end zone, Brick clearly breaks the

809
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: plane before the linebacker touches him down. They don't rule

810
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: it a touchdown. The side judge marks him out at

811
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: the one yard line, and they review the play. They

812
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: still say he didn't get in and they still market

813
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: at the one. Yeah, the guy at worst was at

814
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: the six inch line and they put him at though

815
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe. See, I don't get that either. I

816
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: don't get that either. How they got that reviewed where

817
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: they did and then marked at what appeared to me

818
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: almost a full yard behind where the guy actually got

819
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: up inside the one on whatever this, Yeah, we can

820
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: we can get into the officials and some of them happened.

821
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: There was a there was an enormously controversial play in

822
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: the charge in the cheap Chicago Philly game, and that

823
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: is going to be really interesting to see talk about

824
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: as well, where catch fumble all of that. Listen, we

825
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: got Thurman Thomas coming up at the show South Palantonio.

826
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: Later on in the show as well, Chris Brown along

827
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: with Steve Tasker listening to One Bills Live presented by

828
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo

829
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker

830
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown, we're kind of humming along hoping

831
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: to get Thurman Thoma. Thurman's on his way in. Probably

832
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on A one and is coming down

833
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: a little bit outside. It's not the balmy, toasty weather

834
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: we had over the weekend. It's kind of turned south

835
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. The ground got your ground get covered

836
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: with snow where you're at in your neighborhood. No, I

837
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: didn't drive, No, I'm I'm up in your ncaster and

838
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: just outside the snow belt. I'll tell you. I look

839
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: outside my kitchen window, which is south facing right, I

840
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: can see the snow belt Lake effect clouds down here

841
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: because we're on a high ridge up there, so I

842
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: get a good view. Sometimes on a good day, I

843
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 1: can see the Boston Hills from my neighborhood. Yeah, because

844
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: we're perched up pretty high, but I can see those

845
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: lake effects, snow bands blanking, and you guys down here,

846
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: and sometimes it drifts north and we get we get

847
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: a tail of it, like a little bit, right, Like,

848
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: if you guys get a foot here, we may get

849
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: like three or four inches where we are if it,

850
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: you know, oscillates a little bit. But other than that,

851
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: we're just outside that. We just yeah, we just got

852
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: a dusting. We got like a half an inch, and

853
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: I drove straight to the state because I was down

854
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: here over the weekend. We got we got about as

855
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: much snow as it would take to make Atlanta come

856
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: to a stand still, about a half an inch, right, right, Yeah,

857
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: so they have issues. Yeah, Okay, now we're just before

858
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: the break. We were talking about the officials, all right.

859
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: So in Chicago game last night, you probably saw this,

860
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: this play where they throw a pass down Uller right

861
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: to Anthony Miller and uh he throws the pass. It

862
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: looks like it's caught ripped away, fumbled away, ball pops

863
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: out and that's it. They call it off incomplete pass,

864
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. Well, then they review it and it comes

865
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: out that not it wasn't an incomplete pass. It was completed,

866
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: but because they pulled the ball out, it was called incomplete.

867
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: Nobody ran to cover the football. It went to an

868
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: incomplete pass, and you talk about confusing. We've got the

869
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: official this is uh what was the officials name? And

870
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: I can't remember now, uh oh, Tony Carente who called this,

871
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: And listen to his officials call after they reviewed the

872
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: catch fumble, no catch, And here's the official call. After review,

873
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: the ruling on the field will stand. There's no clear

874
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: recovery of the football. Therefore the ball will go back. Well,

875
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: are they gonna rule it an incomplete patches what he's saying,

876
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: he didn't say the words there's no clear recovery because

877
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: you blew the play dead totally. So what he was

878
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: saying was what he essentially what he's saying with that

879
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: is the Eagles could have scooped the ball up and

880
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: run the other way with it and there would have

881
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: been a different, whole different kind of ruling. Then that

882
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 1: is correct. That would have been if an Eagles player

883
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: would have said, maybe I'm gonna scoop this up and

884
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: take off running, because you saw the Ravens do that

885
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: yesterday the other time. You see it all the time, right,

886
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean play the coaches. The coaches tell their players

887
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: to do that for that very reason, and nobody did

888
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: because that ref the back judge is sitting there going

889
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: like this, yeah, and we didn't have the audio up

890
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: on the play. We have the silent replay, but you

891
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: can if they blow the whistle, particularly on a play

892
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: like you saw where it was pretty iffy and they

893
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: call it incomplete, the players don't click that it's gonna

894
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: be Oh, we think they'll they'll play His second half

895
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: is last two minutes of the first half. See, they

896
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: don't realize that this gets reviewed anyway, because it's inside

897
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: the last two minutes of the first half. They're gonna

898
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: go to the booth review and because of that, that's

899
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Right. Oh, he had like six, does

900
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: a nice job getting his hand in pulling it. Four,

901
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: then out le Blanc and it comes out. But one, two, three,

902
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: four and the balls out. And there's no question that

903
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: had they called that and a reception that it would

904
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: have been a fumble as well, and it should have been.

905
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's exactly what it was. It was a

906
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: catch fumble, but they called it incomplete. And oh and

907
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: that's just the opposite end of this spectrum when you

908
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: go back and look at why they changed it, and

909
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: that's exactly at the other end of the spectrum. Usually

910
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: they do it because, well, the guy made a catch.

911
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: The only clear recovery was made by the back judge.

912
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: He walked over and sticked up right. It was the

913
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: only clear recovery. That's the other end of the spectrum

914
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: why they changed that rule. Now, the catch rules, I

915
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: still want to look up that. Who are the side

916
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: judge and that well, okay, so you side judge Gary Cavalletto,

917
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: and you're like Chargers Ravens game. I can't get away

918
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: my dog with a chew toy. You're not gonna let

919
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: that go judgment. Two bad calls and hey do we

920
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: have that? Do we have I don't think we do.

921
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: The two bad calls at the goal line, one on

922
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 1: the Chargers and then one on the Raceason's getting washed

923
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: overs because they scored anyway, right, that's yeah, you're right,

924
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: You're right. The only reasons. Then they had the Melvin

925
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: Gordon play where he's outstretched and that pops up and

926
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: they start going the other way right, which he was down,

927
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: and that was a good call too. They got that

928
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: he was down by contact his elbow hit and then

929
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: the ball pop loose to the ground caused the fumble,

930
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: but he was short of the goal line. And then

931
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: on the third try, Gordon busts in and he's been

932
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: standing up ridiculous, which is why it wipes away. And

933
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm look, I'm not gonna pretend that it's an easy job.

934
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, stuff happens really fast on that field. When

935
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: you're down there, you realize the speed of the game

936
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: is extreme and there are bang bang plays all the time.

937
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: And that Anthony Miller catch that we've been running for

938
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: our MSG viewers in slow motion looks pretty easy to call.

939
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: I guess I could see how you know, live The

940
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: guy looks like he takes probably two steps and the

941
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: ball's rolling on the other side of the field, and

942
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: you're like, ah, incomplete pass, yeah, you know, and then

943
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: you look back at it its slow motion, like holy count,

944
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: the guy got four steps? Got four steps? With the

945
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. Now, I'm wondering if they're going

946
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: to argue clear possession either way. I mean, I don't

947
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, because if you want to argue that, I

948
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: mean what, I don't know where. There's just too many layers.

949
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: It was a loophole in the rule that because there

950
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: was no clear recovery, they couldn't get it right. So

951
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: because they couldn't get it right, they went back called

952
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: it incomplete pass and and there you have it. The

953
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: best was Terry mcaulay disagreeing with Gene Strator's interpretation of

954
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 1: the Melvin Gordon play on Twitter and then completely reversing

955
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: his field thirty seconds later. I wonder who gave him

956
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: a call? Yeah, I don't know. We'll see that, all right.

957
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep going. Steve Tashball and Chris Brown on

958
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Thurman Thomas is up next to the

959
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: top of the hour. Come back and join us. This

960
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, and this

961
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio Blow Bills Radio Network storing supt Date.

962
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: The Colts beat the Texans twenty one seven on Saturday,

963
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck through for two hundred and twenty two yards

964
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: and had two touchdowns, plus running back Marlon Mack had

965
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty eight yards and a touchdown in

966
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: the wind. The Colts will be at the Chief for

967
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: the Divisional round of the playoffs on Saturday, and the

968
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: Ravens felt of the Chargers twenty three to seventeen. Yesterday.

969
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: Chargers kicker Michael Badgeley kicked five field goals, setting a

970
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: franchise records for field goals in a playoff game. Ravens

971
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback Lamar Jackson threw from one hundred and ninety

972
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: four yards with an interception, but he was sacked seven times,

973
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: and the Chargers will be in Foxboro to face the

974
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: Patriots next Sunday. The Cowboys beat the Seahawks twenty four

975
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: twenty two on Saturday. Dak Prescott completed twenty two of

976
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: thirty three passes for two hundred and twenty six yards

977
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 1: and a touchdown with an interception. Cowboys wide receiver Alan

978
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: Hearn suffered a gruesome left ankle injury in the first

979
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: quarter and had surgery Saturday night. The Rams will host

980
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: those same Cowboys on Saturday in Los Angeles. The Eagles

981
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: beat the Bears sixteen to fifteen. Yesterday, kicker Cody Parkey

982
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: missed a game winning field goal for the Bears after

983
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: it appeared that the Eagles defensive tackle Treyvon Hester tipped

984
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: the ball just enough off the line as scrim is

985
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: to help push it offline. The Eagles will face the

986
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: Saints in New Orleans on Sunday. It's been reported that

987
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: the Bills are signing CFL receiver Duke Williams. Williams had

988
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred and seventy nine yards and eleven touchdowns in

989
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen season, leading the CFL as a member

990
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: of the Edmonton Eskimos. The Sabers practice this morning and

991
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: are back to action tomorrow night as they host the Devils,

992
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: who are off fresh off a three to two loss

993
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: to the Golden Knights. Puck drop tomorrow night is seven pm.

994
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: That is your sports update. We're welcome. We're happy to

995
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: be joined now once again Chris Brown along with Steve

996
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: Tasker here on one Bills Live. Joined once again as

997
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: per usual at semi regular by Hall of Fame running

998
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: back Thurman Thomas Thurm. How are you doing you enjoy

999
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: the weekend? Enjoyed it? It was actually nice to sit

1000
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: down and watch some good games, went full blown couch

1001
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: potato ryot exactly. So we haven't talked to you since

1002
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: the end of the Bills season, and we had, you know,

1003
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: during this last week, we had you know, rookie offensive

1004
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, Defensive Rookie of the year, most

1005
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: valuable player. You know, what was your all Right, so

1006
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: you you had your jersey retired, But other than that,

1007
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: what was your most memorable What did you take away

1008
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: from this last season for the Bills most memorable moment

1009
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: maybe or whatever? What strikes What are you gonna remember

1010
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: about this season other than the fact that you got

1011
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: your jersey retired for a month and a half, it

1012
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: took well, I think it really all comes down to,

1013
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: even with that happening or whatever, man seeing um, you know,

1014
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: seeing good friend Kyle Williams man players last football game,

1015
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: I think that ranks right up there with the entire season,

1016
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: not including the jersey retirement. But uh, you know, being

1017
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: a good friend of Kyle and Jill and all their

1018
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: five kids, you know, really getting kind of involved in

1019
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: their lives and what Kyle has done over the years.

1020
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: The last five or six years, we've become really really

1021
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: close and really have had a great a great time

1022
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: being with each other, you know, and you know, you

1023
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: go back and you're looking like, you know what, this

1024
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: is one of them guys that, man I wish weird

1025
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: he would play with. I was just gonna say, he's

1026
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: a throwback player, man, And you know what, We're gonna

1027
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: miss Kyle around here. But man, I'm just so happy

1028
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: to see him and his family go out on top man.

1029
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things about having that

1030
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: as a memory for a guy like you and for

1031
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: me as well, is you can relate to it. I mean,

1032
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: I remember my last you know, yeah, remember my last game,

1033
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: and I you know, I do too. I was there

1034
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: for that one, so it ended premature, right, I was like,

1035
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: but I also but also the organization introduced me by

1036
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: myself in my last time game, right, Um, And the

1037
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: same thing. I mean when you walk away that you

1038
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: know last time, you take that helmet off, it's it's special.

1039
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: It is special. And uh, you know Kyle has been

1040
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: man for him to play here thirteen years and and

1041
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: really I mean go to the playoffs once. I mean

1042
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of like kind of where old man, I

1043
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: wish you could have happened a little bit more, especially

1044
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: having you know, I think coach McDermot talked about it

1045
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: this press conference at the end of the year about

1046
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: having a playoff game year. Yeah, you know what it

1047
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: would be like and to see Kyle and not have

1048
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: that opportunity. Um, you know, I wish he would have

1049
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: had that opportunity, but you know, he's moved on to

1050
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: better things. Just talked to him last week. Sent me

1051
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: a picture of he's down in Louisiana and it's called

1052
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: Kyle's Month when he's just at this camp for a

1053
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: month and you know, goes away and he goes away

1054
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: and disappeared. And I told him that, you know, this

1055
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: is I might have an opportunity to come down and

1056
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: visit him for a couple of season down there, dug

1057
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: hunting deer season, a bunch of drinking and all that

1058
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: type of stuff. Yeah, it's just the guys. You know,

1059
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: he just gets off and goes away for an entire

1060
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: month and go out in the swamp and just disappear.

1061
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: It's losing down. It's a swamp everywhere you go. Most

1062
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: guys know, people know that when you're a pro football player.

1063
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: He spent a lot of time healing up. He got bumps, bruises,

1064
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: sometimes significant injuries centuries to get over. You got, you know, soreness, shoulder.

1065
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: That's something you've been dragging around for the last month

1066
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: of the season because he got a hit hit in

1067
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: week thirteen, that correct thing, and you know people relate

1068
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: to that being sore or whatever. The thing that you

1069
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: don't get. Man, you need to get away from everything

1070
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: and everybody something else for a minute, because you can't

1071
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: think about anything else when you're in the middle of

1072
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: the season, whether it's going good or bad. Man, you're

1073
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: up to your eyeballs and nothing else. And and getting

1074
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: away like Kyle does. Yeah, every player likes to do. Well,

1075
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: that's what Russey Jones should tell us all the time,

1076
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, because we had the long season, the preseason,

1077
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs, playing extra games and seasons in four seasons,

1078
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: right and Russey would say after the season ended, take

1079
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: a month off just to get your body relaxed and

1080
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: healed back up. So, yeah, it's uh sad to see

1081
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: him going, but I know he's in a happy place

1082
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: right now. And uh, you know, but the thing about Kyle,

1083
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish I had the talent that he

1084
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: had play golf. Man, you get to play golf all

1085
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: the time. He doesn't do anything, and he's a great golf.

1086
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: I remember I took him out one time this last

1087
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: offseason and yeah he can he can hand think about

1088
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: how hard he can hit him right right? And he

1089
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: was with game. He got a short game. Oh yeah,

1090
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: that's what impressed me to most, the short game. And

1091
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: he was him and Nico Leary, well, right, you came

1092
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: in last I sat and watched. But that's the way

1093
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: it goes. And all right, so we so that was

1094
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: kind of Kyle's farewell, was what you remember? Yeah, you

1095
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: give us a yeah, and I and I get it too.

1096
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: We had this little poll going on what was what

1097
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: was some of the like and I know, probably Offensive

1098
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: Rookie the Year he kind of gotta kind of throw

1099
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: at number seventeen, right, what about Defensive Rookie of the

1100
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: Year was easily Tree. And I've seen some comments already

1101
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: about how this guy is going to get better? Right,

1102
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, when I think of the last meeting or whatever,

1103
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: Kyle using gets up in front of the team and

1104
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: talks or whatever in front of the defensive guys and

1105
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: he handed over to Tremaine Edmonds. Yeah, right, like a

1106
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: month ago, and that right there tells you that you

1107
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: know he's gonna be prepared. He's gonna be a forced

1108
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: one in May twenty and a half. Yeah, So I

1109
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: mean as a rookie. Yeah, And we actually have a

1110
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: feature story on a website about that today because I

1111
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: kind of went around the locker room to a lot

1112
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: of the veterans on that side of the ball and

1113
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: I said, look, just give me the real goods on

1114
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: what's realistic for him, you know. So I talked to Lorenzo,

1115
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: I talked to Star, talked to a bunch of guys

1116
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: that have seen people, you know, Star saw Luke Keiley

1117
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: come into this league and what he was able to

1118
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: do with that position. People forget Tremaine m has never

1119
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: played middle linebacker in his life before this season. And

1120
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: so just think about this for a second. Okay, you're twenty.

1121
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: You've never played middle linebacker. All the angles are different,

1122
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: all the reads are different than playing strong side, which

1123
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: is where they had him line up at Virginia Tech.

1124
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: Run the defense in a scheme you've never been in before,

1125
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: and tell thirty year old guys what they need to do.

1126
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way makes some plays too, do

1127
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And he's twenty, Like he

1128
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: hasn't even filled out yet, Like where would you say

1129
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: when would you say as a pro you felt like

1130
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: you filled out? You know, maybe it's that first offseason

1131
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: into your second year when you had a full NFL

1132
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: conditioning program. I mean, he's twenty. Yeah, I mean, there's

1133
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: not a lot of sand in the pants right now

1134
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah. Now. And and Lorenzo told me, he said,

1135
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: this guy could put on another twenty pounds. His frame

1136
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: could carry another twenty pounds, no problem, and he would

1137
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: not lose any speed, right, I mean. And Luke Keikley

1138
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: at the first preseason game in the summer, because we

1139
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: had coach Mike up for that game, Keikley walks up

1140
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: to McDermott just to say hello. You know, he coached

1141
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: him for several years, and he goes, who's forty nine?

1142
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: He goes, that guy's a freak azoi. That's what he

1143
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: called him. He called him a freak azo um. You

1144
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: know these guys. Star said it best, and it's the

1145
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: last quote I used in our story today. He said,

1146
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be real scary. In a couple of

1147
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: years right right to everybody. That's does take some time.

1148
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: No real scary, just like position. But you saw it

1149
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: click just these last couple of weeks, last three or

1150
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, like the Miami game, I mean the

1151
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: last game of the that Picky makes. I mean he

1152
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: drops into that window there and then just sticks his

1153
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: and a few have you ever shaken his hand? Yes,

1154
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: it goes right up here almost it almost went up

1155
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: to my elbows. I said, where did my hand go?

1156
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: It was gone. Yeah. Carter hunting with his catching glove.

1157
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: But he's just like his dad is. Glad is big,

1158
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: like six six, I want to say, but he's got

1159
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: meat hooks and yeah, Farms was a tight end with

1160
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: a Dolphins. It's in there somewhere. And his mom was

1161
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: a track star. He ran like d one track. Yeah. Yeah,

1162
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: they got some athletes deep. That's called the deep end

1163
00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: of the gene. Yeah. Here I am in the shallows. Yeah. Yeah. Last,

1164
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: and I also want to last last thing now as

1165
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: this season comes to a close, and it was in

1166
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: a lot of ways it was a rough season. A

1167
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: lot of ways, it was a very promising season and

1168
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: puts the Bills in an optimistic spot. Talking to about

1169
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: Leshaun McCoy as, it couldn't have been. You can hard

1170
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: to imagine a rougher year for him, particularly if he

1171
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: was Sissy stayed mostly healthy during during the year, didn't

1172
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: get much help. Uh still say they've got a big

1173
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: plan for him. What are your thoughts about Lashawn getting

1174
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: it together, coming back, bouncing back, or what are your

1175
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: thoughts about? But I know he's going to be motivated,

1176
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean coming back. I mean, this is his last

1177
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: year of his contract, right, I think, coming up, coming up,

1178
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: coming up. And you know, I talked to him after

1179
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: the season, you know, and the first thing he said

1180
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: to me was like, man, you know what I think

1181
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: this offseason, we just really need to get some offensive linehelp.

1182
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: I think I think this year probably more than any

1183
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: and his compensis in his entire career, he danced a lot.

1184
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: He danced more than I've ever seen him dance because

1185
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: because he had to. I think there's there was really

1186
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: nothing there. And uh and I think you see over

1187
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: the course of these playoffs, now you have to have

1188
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: a good offensive line. There's no question about that. I

1189
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: mean you look at Philadelphia and Chicago. Hey, Khalil Matt

1190
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: makes some plays yesterday, but he didn't make many because

1191
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: he was going up against Jason Peters. And you know,

1192
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: but you look at all the offensive line play throughout

1193
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: the entire playoffs with the Colts, I mean the two guards.

1194
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck hasn't been sacked. He's been eighteen times the

1195
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: entire year. Yeah, and roder Ball more than anybody. I

1196
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: was telling him, Like earlier in the show, everybody knows

1197
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: they drafted that Quenton Nelson get out of the Dame

1198
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: number six overall. But the next round they come back

1199
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: and take Brandon Smith. Brandon Smith from Auburn. He's playing

1200
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: the right guard spot. So you got a right guard

1201
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: and left guard, two rookies. Yeah. You know, you signed

1202
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: somebody in free agent. You can flip her the offensive

1203
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: line in one off season, and let's do it. And

1204
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: that's what the GM Chris Ballace hit. We need to

1205
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: we need to stressen up our offensive line because we

1206
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: got a quarterback who at the beginning of the year

1207
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: they didn't really know how that shoulder was going to operate.

1208
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: And man Frank right after going one in five starting

1209
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: off the season, finished on ten and six. Yeah, ten

1210
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: and six. That offensive line was the reason. And now

1211
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: they're starting to run the football. I mean, well, yeah,

1212
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: they would be thinking, Marlin, oh man, that's a good

1213
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: run front. They're going against the Houston a very good run.

1214
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean they were like number one defense, wasn't they No,

1215
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: they were they were. They were close to third against

1216
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: the run, third against the run, and they gashed him

1217
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: forward over twoty six he got he got one six

1218
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: all by himself. So uh man, they're they're clear, they're

1219
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 1: you know, you always talk about one of those teams

1220
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: that might be scary to play. This is that team run.

1221
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: I was telling him, I think these guys of the

1222
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: four teams that won yesterday, they might be the toughest

1223
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: out left of those four teams that the four teams,

1224
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: maybe Chargers, maybe Chargers. I would probably go Coats one

1225
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: Chargers too. Yeah, if you're talking about the teams as

1226
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: I just think that they got such good balance offense defense.

1227
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: Chargers are a talented team too, running a lot of

1228
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: k and stuff to us all that too. Yeah, they were.

1229
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: They were number three in the league against the rush, right,

1230
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: so they got they got gassed yesterday, and is going

1231
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: to be important in Kansas City if they run the

1232
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: ball like they did against the Texas in Kansas City.

1233
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: Kansas City is out. Before we came out of the air,

1234
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: Steve was already laying out the game plan. Frank, right,

1235
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: you're going to Kansas City. No, just every scoring drive

1236
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: eight minutes, eight minutes. Yeah, that's what they'll do. I mean,

1237
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: they'll just keep Mahomes off the field. They'll have enough

1238
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: confidence in a running game, and of course Andrew Luck

1239
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: it's easy enough if they can stay on schedule with

1240
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: that defense. They don't want to go, uh, you know,

1241
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: a seventy five yard scoring play in three plays. They

1242
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: want to go seventy five yards. I'll take it in

1243
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: in thirteen plays and eight minutes and score and then

1244
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: score touchdown. That's right, and that's what they'll attempt to do.

1245
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: Just keep Mahomes on the sidelines. They'll have they should

1246
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: have enough confidence, you would think against the Chiefs defense.

1247
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: You would think the Colts would have enough confidence that

1248
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: they can just say, listen, let's get eleven yards on

1249
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: three downs, and get another eleven yards on the next

1250
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 1: three downs, and another eleven yards on the next three downs.

1251
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: Just go that way and just have him sit on

1252
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: the sideline. They get if they get one, missed one,

1253
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: missed possession, we get it back and now we're up

1254
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: seven on him. The only matchup issue you really got

1255
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: to worry about in that one is Kelsey. They don't

1256
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if they got a guy that can,

1257
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: and that's the favorite hardsty three. What's Leonard for the Colt?

1258
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,959
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard? Darius Leonard? Yeah, you think he can handle.

1259
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: I think he can. Pretty good players, he's pretty good

1260
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: playing six. Yeah, but this guy fifty three, I don't know.

1261
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: I keep forgetting his name. What's he's the rookie a

1262
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: fourth round defensive, fourth round for South Carolina State. Yeah,

1263
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: you think he don't want to shut that down? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not motivating, right, but I guarantee

1265
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: he's probably like, Okay, I can take care of ay

1266
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: to seven. I've been doing it all year. Why not today? Yeah,

1267
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: and that'll be the that'll be an interesting matchup. I mean,

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01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: first of all, Earra heads a hard place to play,

1269
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: but the Chiefs are not the team in January that

1270
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: they skidded through the finish there the three and three

1271
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: in their last six or something. Yeah, it was almost

1272
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: scared and New England might have got the first Yeah,

1273
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Chiefs, And they did it last year

1274
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: as well. They started out six and oh last year

1275
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: before they stumbled into the playoffs again and then we're

1276
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: out in one game. It could very well happen again

1277
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: this year, particularly given the matchup. Ok So, let's let's

1278
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: talk Chargers Patriots for this weekend real briefly here, because

1279
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: I think this is the best matchup you could have

1280
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: hoped for if you're rooting against the Patriots, because you

1281
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: got an experienced quarterback who hopefully is gonna diagnose most

1282
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: of the stuff that Belichick dials up. There's talent enough

1283
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: talent everywhere on the field. And if there's one thing

1284
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: that the Patriots don't do well, it's rushed the passer.

1285
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: So even though he's a classic classic pocket guy that's

1286
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to extend plays going into this,

1287
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: he should have time to throw the ball. Yeah, he should. So.

1288
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: How I saw this early line on the spread, it's

1289
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: like four and a half or favor in New England

1290
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: four and a half minus four and a half or

1291
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: something like that. What's your initial thoughts about that game?

1292
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: Does Philip have a chance here? I think it does.

1293
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: I think it. Hey, listen, Mike. At the beginning of

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: the year, I said, right after, uh after, about the

1295
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: first week, Anthony Least should be considered coach of the

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01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: year in a National Football league. I think he's that

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01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: good of a coach. He did a good job. He's

1298
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: got a great he got a great staff, and that's important.

1299
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: But when you have that veteran quarterback who and everybody's

1300
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: been bringing up the quarterback who's been in the league

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01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: the longest, having never been to a Super Bowl or

1302
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: what have you, they're motivated. I guarantee you they're motivated

1303
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: to go down there. You saw it yesterday when when

1304
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: they played I forgot even who they played Baltimore. Yeah,

1305
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: that was tough work, yeah, they but they made it work.

1306
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: And having the tell you what's going to really come

1307
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: down to is that, you know, this year, Tom Brady

1308
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: has checked down to James Whitemore than probably anybody in

1309
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: the national set a record for Patriots running backs for

1310
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: reception for a semon and it was basically just check

1311
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: downs most of the time. Safety or whatever. Yeah. So

1312
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if the Chargers can shut that down and

1313
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: shut down Grown, I think they have a great opportunity

1314
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: to win the football game. And plus they got a

1315
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: pass rush. Pass rush if if the Chargers can put

1316
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: pressure on Tom Brady, which everybody in the league knows,

1317
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: if you put pressure on here for four quarters, he's

1318
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: not the same quarterback. He's just not the same. The

1319
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: only thing that's different right now is that they're at home.

1320
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: They're great at home, and they're terrible on the road.

1321
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: Doing a lot yesterday. Yeah really he was, he was, Yeah,

1322
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: I agree with the both of you. I think Rivers

1323
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: gives him a chance because what the Patriots, they win,

1324
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: they scheme well, I mean, they're gonna do something that

1325
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: yet and they have a good secondary that's probably the

1326
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 1: strength of their defense. Right they scheme well, and even

1327
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: offensively they get their guys matched up and stuff, but

1328
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: they don't. I don't think it's a really over overly

1329
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: talented group physically talented. Now the Chargers, they got some

1330
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 1: guys that are talented, and Philip Rivers, he'll figure the scheme.

1331
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna get the matchups he watched. Offensively, he's gonna

1332
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: do it and I don't. And even secondary the PA,

1333
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers have got some guys that will match up

1334
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, even if the strength of their secondary.

1335
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen is a very good player, they got along

1336
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: find a way. I think it comes down to the

1337
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: other side of the football and what their defense and

1338
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: the Chargers can do against the Brady and those guys

1339
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: keep They've got to keep them off the board and

1340
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 1: the board. But you got guys that can match up.

1341
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean that charge your secondary. You got two rookies

1342
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: who are all pros, Derwin James and Desmond King, Right,

1343
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 1: you know they got I think they've got the edge

1344
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: in the return game. Is a great returner, so you

1345
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: got to hope that plays into field position. They may

1346
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: not kick it to him. They might not, Yeah, take

1347
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: it to him at all. Yeah, under might be kicking

1348
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: it out of bounds and Gaskowski might still be trying

1349
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 1: to reach the end zone. Yeah, which is easier said

1350
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: than done in January, but it's it's a very good man.

1351
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be on the couch once again as

1352
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: we can't. Yeah, yeah, yes, and asked, well, I don't

1353
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 1: know if I will be actually or not, but I'm

1354
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: gonna be going. I got a thing. I got a life, man,

1355
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: I got a life outside outside of it. What am

1356
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: I looking for it. I have no idea the matchups

1357
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 1: for next weekend. I'm looking for the billion New Orleans,

1358
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: Philly in New Orleans. Uh, let's we can just talk

1359
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: about that, or we can go to the Rams Dallas.

1360
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: Let's which one he pick? Take your pick? Which one

1361
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: you want to talk about? Because I think Philly New

1362
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: Orleans is intriguing because of what Nick Foles looks like

1363
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: he's doing. Again, you want to talk about a conundrum

1364
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: boy with a good problem to have. Yes, yeah, all

1365
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're seeing, Hey, maybe we should trade

1366
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz Like really, yeah, but look at what he's

1367
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: doing here. The only how do you argue with he

1368
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: goes in and beats New Orleans, Steve, listen, you laugh.

1369
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I don't think that Carson Wentz

1370
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: is getting the point where he's got a little same

1371
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: Bradford in him where he can't stay healthy. You know,

1372
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: he may be a great quarterback because we saw Sam

1373
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: Bradford for glimpses in his career, but he's yeah, well

1374
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm ready to stamp. Yeah, I mean, but that's all

1375
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's two years in a row. Carson Wentz

1376
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: can't finish the reason. But in the grand scheme of thing,

1377
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: has anybody beating New Orleans in that dome? Though? I

1378
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: don't see that's gonna be tough. That's gonna be I

1379
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: mean the Rams didn't even beat him there in the

1380
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: regular season, right, that's gonna be tough. That's doesn't that

1381
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: have Rams Saints Championship game written all over it? I mean,

1382
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna rule out the Eagles. I mean,

1383
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: they've been there, so they know what they gotta do.

1384
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: But man, I don't like their secondary against that New

1385
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: Orleans group. Man, you see, Steve and I were talking

1386
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: about this before we can second half? Did you see

1387
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: the Bears and all the double moves they ran on

1388
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: those Eagles? Dbs see you later spinning guys around like tops.

1389
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you put the New Orleans receiving corps against

1390
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: that group. Wolf right there was number twenty nine. He's

1391
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: gonna be looking for that out and up all day

1392
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: and then not probably not gonna run it. So I

1393
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: guess I'm what I'm the vibe I'm getting because you

1394
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: kind of ignored it is you think Dallas is pretty

1395
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: much one and done right, Well, I mean Dallas defense

1396
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: you would say should you would say Dallas's defense should

1397
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: keep a minute to a certain degree. I don't know.

1398
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: Hopefully Girly's healthy now after kind of getting some rest

1399
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, right, Um, But man,

1400
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: he can stop that run. That Dallas defense, they're pretty good,

1401
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: pretty good at stopping it. So I'm wondering if they

1402
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: can at least hold him in for a little while.

1403
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: But you know, Sean mcvayh I mean, he's had two

1404
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: weeks to get ready for this one and he's gonna

1405
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: be dialing up some crazy stuff crazy he doesn't care. Yeah, yeah,

1406
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: Dallas is best. You gotta think both those teams, all

1407
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: all those teams that are in the buy are going

1408
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: to be really and let's not forget about the Rams defense.

1409
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: I mean that's there're nothing to sneeze at either. They

1410
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: don't get any headlines because the offense steals them all.

1411
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: But defense pretty good group. I mean, yeah, it's gonna

1412
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: be key for them, the Dallas to try to run

1413
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: to establish and running well. I think that Dallas old

1414
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: line and the Rams d line might be the most

1415
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 1: exciting matchup to watch because I mean, you're talking Aaron Donald,

1416
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: Zach Martin. I mean you got some big names on

1417
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: those two lines. I mean we're talking Pro bowlers all

1418
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: the way across the Yeah, that's a great, Yeah, that's great.

1419
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean if you like trench stuff, that is what

1420
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: you're watching. Nobody this weekend. Nobody likes trench stuff. Come on,

1421
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: I want to see just saying if you do. I mean,

1422
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: there might be a few of them out there. Yeah, right,

1423
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'll take the trench stuff. Yeah. So you're

1424
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: looking for and then that's your calling. At the present moment,

1425
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: it's Saints Rams. I think the NFC is more clear cut,

1426
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 1: at least on the surface, it should be Ram. It

1427
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: should be Rams and Saints going to the conference championship game.

1428
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: I think the other side's a little more wide open. Yeah, yeah,

1429
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: I agree. Then the Chiefs hosting U Indy, that's that's

1430
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: a little more of a coin flip along with the

1431
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: Patriots hosting And I'm a little bit of a prisoner

1432
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: at the moment with the Chargers because they did play

1433
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: really well on the road in the East to get

1434
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: nine and one on the road. They are really and

1435
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: the teams that they've beaten, yeah, I mean they've beaten

1436
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: what Pittsburgh's Seattle Kansas City. They got some quality wins,

1437
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: even won the game in London. I mean, so they

1438
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: do better away from LA. I'm going Chargers, all right,

1439
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: just because I don't mean Chargers and we all know that.

1440
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 1: All you're taking both roads and both dogs, both both dogs.

1441
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: What about you saying on the FC side, I don't

1442
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: mind an upset. I'll go with that because it's too

1443
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: predictable on the other side. So make it unpredictable on

1444
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,839
Speaker 1: the conviction, well, I don't want I'm ruining for the Patriots,

1445
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: Saint Saint Sun Rams in the NFC champion piefs have

1446
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: to have a day and a half to their defenses.

1447
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a prop all right, Thurman, thanks for

1448
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: coming in. Man, I appreciate What are you gonna do

1449
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: this week? And seek around if you want. You got

1450
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: another you stayed around till after the break. After the break, cool, Thurman.

1451
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: Thomas is gonna stay with us, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

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01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: We've got South Palestonio coming up later in the show

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: as well. Stay with us. We're hilt here till three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker along with

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: Chris Brown also joining us. Hall of Fame running back

1459
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas. I want to get into one little subject

1460
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: as we come up to just pass the bottom of

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01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,879
Speaker 1: the hour. What do you think about all the coaching

1462
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: vacancies that there are? And I have a little rundown

1463
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: of who's talking to who about where they're gonna be.

1464
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of coaching vacanc he's eight of them. Now,

1465
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: what about only a quarter that these coaches interviewing two

1466
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: and three times a day? Let's read. I'm like cool man,

1467
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: I can't even think right after one interview four hours?

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01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 1: Right exactly? Give me examples that'll be on for twelve hours.

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01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 1: The Rams offensive coordinator Zach Taylor, right, he interviewed with

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01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: the Bengals, he interviewed with the Broncos. He is interviewed

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01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 1: with let's see, hold on, hold on with the Cardinals,

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01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: and he has, uh, let's see, And I think that's

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01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: about it. There's three of them. Whoever many that was right.

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01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: I just said, yeah, he's all over the place. Is

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01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: he frying around on Crocks airplane? Down him? Get him okay?

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01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: Or what happened? What happens usually, particularly with these guys,

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01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: at them to get they go to them. They'll they'll

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01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: interview him in LA because he's the officsive coordinator for

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01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: the DC for the Patriots. A lot of those teams

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01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: flew into England. His Belichick's like, you're going anywhere. I

1481
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 1: think the most interesting one is how about Bruce Aarons

1482
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: might get the tech Tampa Bay job? That came out

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01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Ye came out and I thought he was

1484
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: strictly retired. Well, and not only that, the team has

1485
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: already said we're committed to Jameis Winston. So yeah, you're

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01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: going in the door with your quarterback already chosen for you,

1487
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: with a quarterback that stinks, who turns it over maybe

1488
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: more than any other quarterback in football. That's what the

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01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: exception of his backup, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Well, boy, what are

1490
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: you guys? Yeah, I'd love to take the job, but

1491
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: I got these two guys, or at least one of them.

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01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: Fits is a free agent, but he's known for turning

1493
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: around quarterbacks, right, Yeah, you're right about that. That would

1494
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,560
Speaker 1: be that might be his best fix ever if he

1495
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: can pull that can pull that one off. All right.

1496
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: So the so the Buccaneers, they interviewed Eric Bienemy, George

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01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: Edwards and uh uh they want there's interest in Bruce

1498
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: Arians as well. They also have interest in Kirby Smart,

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01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, Jim Harbaugh, and Brian Kelly is on the

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01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: list for the Buccaneers. I don't know, Nick, if you know,

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01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: if you're throwing all those names out there, you know what,

1502
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: you ain't got anybody there. I mean, I don't know

1503
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 1: if they're talking to him and Nick Ryan Kelly, I

1504
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: don't know if you heard Nick Saban's got a game tonight.

1505
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: He's busy. Yeah. But you know what. The thing that

1506
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: I sit up here and talk about it and have

1507
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: a problem with is that I've heard all these names before.

1508
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: So some of them, maybe some of them Surman, Colin

1509
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: d here Well, Eric Banamy is new. Cliff Kingsbury's the

1510
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: un This other guy who was actually the interim head

1511
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: coach for the Dolphins a while back. His name's Dan Campbell.

1512
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: He's the Saints tight end time. I had. I had

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01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: some production meetings with him. He's you know who he

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01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: reminds me of is Ken wizzen Hunt. Oh really, same guy,

1515
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: same guy, well, same type of guy, same type of guy. Yeah,

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01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: then you've got then you've got guys that listen, Jim Caldwell,

1517
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: Chuck Bogano, you know. So that's what that's what I'm

1518
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: referring to. Adam Gaze, Mike Munchak, right, Mike Muncheck. I mean,

1519
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: so you've got these young young guys in here, man,

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,919
Speaker 1: And I thought it would go that way this offseason

1521
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: because you look at what McVeigh has done, what Naggie's

1522
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: done in Chicago with the offenses and young quarterbacks, and

1523
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 1: that's like the soup djore now, and I'm thinking, Oh,

1524
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: all these owners are gonna go all off and nope, yeah, nope, nope,

1525
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: they're going all defense. Well not all defense, but not

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01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: not all young young guys. Right. I mean it's I

1527
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: don't know, I can't figure out. I get you. I

1528
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: guess once you're in the club, you're always in the club, right,

1529
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: I Mean that's that's pretty much i'd work. You're listening

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01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: to One Bills Live, you're Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, also

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01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: joined by Thurman Thomas Hall of Fame running back. We're

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01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: talking about the head coaching vacancies also a wild card weekend.

1533
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: You can get in on it. I guess you can

1534
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: call us if you'd like eight or three oh five

1535
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: fifty in Buffalo or outside Buffalo one fifty two five fifty. Uh.

1536
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: And I which of the head coaching vacancies. I mean,

1537
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: everybody says, well, Cleveland's gonna be pretty good. I think

1538
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: that's a really I don't know, is it? And then

1539
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 1: they always and there's a ton of talent on the

1540
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland roster on both sides of the ball, yet they

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: finished really well. They better pick the right From a

1542
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: talent perspective, it is a very intriguing roster to work with,

1543
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: not the least of which is you probably have the

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01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: best rookie of the bunch in Baker Mayfield. Um, you know,

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01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: at least as it looks right now. Um, so it's

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01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: strong as six and one. Yeah. With Greg Williams as

1547
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: their head coach, as the interim, he's up for the job.

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01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if if most, if most candidates for

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01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 1: that job will overlook the problems that they've had with

1550
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: the way their ownership has handled the organization, you know,

1551
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: because that would scare a lot of guys. Listen, I'm

1552
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: gonna wait for an opportunity where I don't have to

1553
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: deal with Well. Look, I read yesterday where there's like

1554
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: six or seven guys in the room whoever they're interviewing.

1555
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: I think it should just be John Dorsey. They had

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01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 1: the owner and five other guys in there. I mean,

1557
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: who are the five other guys being exactly those guys exactly,

1558
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: so you're already going into that meeting. Now, I could

1559
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: be the head coach and be like it could be

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01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: part of the ownership family. I mean, Jimmy Haslam, they're

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01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: the ownership family. I know, they're the ownership family. They

1562
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: have been making decisions since they bought the team. I know. Listen,

1563
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: you're preaching the choir owner. They do it. And that's

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01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: why you mentioned it. Green Bay to me is a

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01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,839
Speaker 1: really attractive spot. You know why, because they got football

1566
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: guys running the whole thing. The whole thing, the whole thing.

1567
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: It's on top to bottom, from top to bottom, right,

1568
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: and they don't have the same issues that other you know,

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01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: where the owner's got other things that distract him, and

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01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: they want it. They want somebody to run it, and

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01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: they give it to him. But when they parachute in

1572
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: and wanted to pick Johnny Manziel, everybody has say, Okay,

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01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: we're picking Johnny Manziel. You don't need that. No, and

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01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: you won't get that in Green Bay. You've got football

1575
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: guys running the whole show. And that's why I think

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01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: Green Bay is a much more attractive destination for a

1577
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: lot of guys. And you think about the New York Jets,

1578
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna be dealing with a media market

1579
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: up there. What type of head coach is going to

1580
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: handle that? If Sam Donald doesn't turn out to be

1581
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: Sam Donald who they picked for. I don't know what

1582
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: Picky was, but that high, that high of a draft pick,

1583
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: and what does he to turn out to be what

1584
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: they want him to be? Being the third pick of

1585
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: the draft, you have to have a type of coach

1586
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: that is going to be like, Okay, I gotta deal

1587
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,520
Speaker 1: with this New York media. He better be like Belichick

1588
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 1: or Bill Parcels or somebody in that nature. Because if

1589
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: you get a guy, especially, you gotta be able to

1590
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: out take it exactly in that media market. What do

1591
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: you think? What do you think the least attractive head

1592
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: coaching destination is probably Cincinnati. That's what I was thinking too.

1593
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: That's way, it's kind of universe, especially after Marvin Lewis,

1594
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: they should hire, they should take a look at Hugh Jackson.

1595
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 1: Real listen, So I've got I've got in front of

1596
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 1: me a list of all eight eight vacancies, huge head

1597
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: coaching vacancies, and Hugh Jackson's name is only on one

1598
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: of the vacancy and it's in Cincinnati. Josh McDaniels turned

1599
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: him down. They haven't say I'm going to interview with right,

1600
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 1: since you get that, I'm good, You're good. Yeah. It's

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01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: interesting because Cincinnati is a notoriously only hired guys who

1602
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 1: have worked in that organization before. Well, yes, and there's

1603
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 1: a reason for that, right, Like guys turned down the

1604
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: interview and some it's hard to get somebody say yes,

1605
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: uh sometimes. But it's also because job one, it's a

1606
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: little bit like the Dallas head coaching job. Job one

1607
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: is handling ownership, like like in Cleveland we've been talking about,

1608
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: but you know in Dallas, you know Jason Garrett his job,

1609
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: first job is to handle Jerry and then do the

1610
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: football things well, right, But you know what, Jerry works

1611
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: hard at it. At least he you know, he's he's invested,

1612
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: he's invested total spend money. Now, he's got his his

1613
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: heart's in the right bunch. And if you can talk

1614
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: him into getting his head and his wallet into the

1615
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: right place, Jerry's Jerry's I don't think Jerry's the worst

1616
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: of the bunch by by any stretch of the imaginations.

1617
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: A lot of guys wish they had Jerry. He's very

1618
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: Lewis Marvin. You know, in Cincinnati, they've got a different

1619
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: animal in there. Mike Brown's eighty and he still runs

1620
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: the show. He's the son of Paul Brown. And they

1621
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: struggled for years and years without Marvin Lewis. And now

1622
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: you know, they went to the playoffs a bunch, but

1623
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: they were one and done seven times. They never went

1624
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: past they never won a playoff game. Yeah, but I

1625
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,480
Speaker 1: think Marvin Lewis had success there in spite of ownership

1626
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: more than because of ownership helping him along, no doubt.

1627
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's known, but so who's gonna he's known

1628
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: as a penny pinching owner. He doesn't spend money. They

1629
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: don't even have an inside practice facility. I mean well,

1630
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: and their facilities are lacking, yes, because they've got a

1631
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: new facility. To any player, any player that's played there

1632
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: in a road game, they'll tell you that turf should

1633
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: have been replaced about five seven years ago. I mean yeah.

1634
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: But they don't invest for whatever reason, and that's why

1635
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 1: they started off hot and finished goal. Well, there's a

1636
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: there's a myriad of reasons. But it's a bad look

1637
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: for the league when you have an owner like that.

1638
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,600
Speaker 1: What would the BA or what would the well, I

1639
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: can imagine, but you may as well say it. So

1640
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: what happens when they hire Hugh Jackson as their head coach,

1641
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: it's laughable over like a far Church, right, it's he'll

1642
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: be there for fifteen years like Marvel Lewis. Oh boy, well,

1643
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 1: maybe he'll be there for the length of his contract, right, yeah,

1644
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, because they won't extend him, but they won't

1645
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: put on when he's not put coaching, I don't know.

1646
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at it and hear what's

1647
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 1: going on now, he's probably the lead lead dog for

1648
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: that head coaching job. Well, partly because I think a

1649
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: lot of people say thanks, but no thanks right because right,

1650
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: because it's how can you say I'm gonna get all

1651
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: the resources I need? I mean, you think about how

1652
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: fortunate this organization is to have the Pagoulas as the

1653
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: owners with all the money there. I mean, they've invest

1654
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: there's construction going on right behind us right now for

1655
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 1: a state of the art health and wellness facility and

1656
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 1: a workout facility for the players. That ain't no weight

1657
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: room going in over there's some health and what eighteen

1658
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 1: million dollars? How far that on? Right? And that's but

1659
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: it's something that will make the players comfortable and make

1660
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: the team product on the field better better. So I've

1661
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 1: spoken at length with Marvin Lewis over a course of

1662
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 1: many years. We've had multiple conversations year to year and

1663
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: game to game where I crossed paths with him in

1664
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: the bar broadcast booth, and he said one of the

1665
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 1: things he had to do in Cincinnati was steer the

1666
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: conversation a couple of years in advance to get it

1667
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: to the point where we could talk ownership into saying, hey,

1668
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: we need this, we need this, and here's what they're

1669
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: doing and here's why it's here's why and then they

1670
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: got to see examples of it working for other teams,

1671
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: and then you know, the next year they see even

1672
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: stronger examples. Years later, three years later, they're up to it.

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01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: So that's that's what he was able to do with

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01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: Mike Brown. And I think it may make a difference

1675
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 1: too if Marvin Lewis is retained as a consultant as

1676
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: a guy up in the upper echelon of ownership or

1677
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, because he and Mike Brown have become very close,

1678
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: that may help a guy like Hugh Jackson with the

1679
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: next coach to be more successful when they can get

1680
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: an outlay or a guy in their corner up above them.

1681
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: So we'll see they're gonna be three and four or

1682
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: five years behind everybody else. All right, that's true. All right, Thurman,

1683
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: thanks for sticking around. I appreciate you. Must South Palenttonio.

1684
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: Coming up at the top of the hour, Chris Brown,

1685
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here in One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

1686
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1687
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown. Little cloudy day here

1688
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park as the offseason just gets underway for

1689
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: the Bills this last week and now we're watching the

1690
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 1: We just got through watching the close the opening round

1691
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: of Wildcard weekend. We yeah, interesting stuff. Was a bunch

1692
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: of good games. The only game that got out of

1693
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 1: hand was the first one of the weekend, Colts at Houston,

1694
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: which I think was a little bit of surprise for me.

1695
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: I didn't think the Colts would be able to keep

1696
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: them off the board like they did, but nevertheless. Thurman

1697
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: Thomas was in last hour South Palenttonio coming up at

1698
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: the top of the hour and the signings official now

1699
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 1: the bill signing as official. Now. Duke Williams is a

1700
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill, the CFL star a reserve future contract, reserve

1701
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: futures contract six three to twenty five out of Auburn

1702
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: led the CFL in receiving. He had over fifteen yards

1703
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: for the CFL. He's a big bodied wide receiver who

1704
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: was undrafted in twenty sixteen. Spent had a cup of

1705
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:24,719
Speaker 1: coffee with the Rams and has played very well in Edmonton.

1706
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 1: And it's a different game, as you well know, Steve. Yeah,

1707
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: things that translate over though, I mean good athletes and

1708
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, if you can catch the ball and he

1709
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: is up there. I saw him make a number of

1710
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: catches that were contested, and he's got some good skills

1711
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:43,440
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see if he can translate

1712
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: that into the into the techniques that you have to

1713
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: use in uh in the NFL. But Duke Williams is

1714
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: now a Buffalo bill. Yeah, and it you know, a

1715
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: size adding some size back to the receiving corps. You know,

1716
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 1: they released Kelvin Benjamin and Andre Holmes during the season,

1717
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: the latter stage of the season. Those are the two

1718
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 1: tallest receivers you know in that position group. They went

1719
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: out the door and you really didn't have any size

1720
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 1: on the unit after that. For the rest of the year.

1721
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: They relied more on speed, which proved to be effective

1722
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: to a certain degree. But you know, Robert Foster was

1723
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 1: your only guy that was anywhere near six two or

1724
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 1: six three. You know, this guy is a big body,

1725
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to see what he can do.

1726
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, come OTAs, come training camp, come the preseason,

1727
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: to see if some of the production that he had

1728
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: in the CFL can translate where he can be a

1729
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,839
Speaker 1: reliable target for Josh Allen, you know in the receiving

1730
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 1: corps there, Yeah, and we've we also with Thermo, we

1731
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: talked about coaching vacancies and also the matchups that are

1732
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: coming up, matchups we like, who we think is going

1733
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: to be in the AFC Championship Game, divisional round of

1734
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: the And what do you think? Do you have any

1735
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: generalized ideas about what you expect year to year in

1736
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: the division round of the playoffs. I mean, usually those

1737
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 1: teams that are on by have the advantage most of

1738
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: the time. There are a few exceptions. I think we

1739
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: all remember the Ravens and the forty nine ers. I

1740
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 1: believe we're both wild card teams that got all the

1741
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: way to the Super Bowl and squared off against each

1742
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 1: other in the Hardball Bowl. But more often than not,

1743
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 1: the teams that have been lying and wait for a

1744
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 1: week have the upper hand. They're rested, they're fresh. The

1745
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: only time that you see them run into an issue

1746
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 1: is when they run into one of those buzz saw

1747
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: teams that catch fire at the end of the year,

1748
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: they get a wild card berth, they win the wild

1749
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: card game and they're rolling and you just can't stop them.

1750
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: That's the only thing. And you know, I think the

1751
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: closest thing too, that might be the Colts. The closest

1752
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 1: thing too, That might be the Colts one nine of

1753
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: their last ten, won the wild card game pretty handily

1754
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 1: in Houston. That could be the only team that comes

1755
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: close to looking like that. For me, wild Card weekend

1756
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: is always about good games, which is what we saw

1757
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: this last week. And you get two teams and some

1758
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: of which kind of clawed their way into the into

1759
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You get all these teams that just made it,

1760
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 1: like the Buffalo Bills last year going into Jacksonville sixteen.

1761
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 1: Things had to fall their way and bringing in and

1762
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:01,839
Speaker 1: it happens, and they go in with a lot of momentum,

1763
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: a lot of emotional boost. They get to week two,

1764
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: that's all gone and they're meeting a team that is

1765
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: setting there waiting for him, and you usually get to me,

1766
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: you always get double digit wins by the home teams

1767
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: in these games. The home team's usually just crush whoever

1768
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: comes in there because they've been waiting on him for

1769
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: two weeks. They're rested, fresh, and they're playing good football

1770
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 1: because they are in the playoffs all right. South Palenttonio

1771
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: is coming up at the top of the hour, right

1772
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 1: after the break. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. You were listening

1773
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: to One Bills Live, South palenttonio beat writer for a

1774
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: lot of years. He's an ESPN national correspondent. He hosts

1775
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: ESPN's NFL Matchup. It's covered twenty five Super Bowls. He's

1776
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: coming up after the top of the hour. This is

1777
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive.

1778
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bills Radio Balow Bills Radio Network

1779
01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: Story Date. The Indianapolis Colts beat the Houston Exans twenty

1780
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 1: one to seven on Saturday. Andrew Luck through for two

1781
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 1: it in twenty two yards and had two touchdowns, and

1782
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: running back Marlon Mack had one hundred and forty eight

1783
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown in the win. The Colts will

1784
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: be at Kansas City to play the Chiefs for the

1785
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: Divisional round of the playoffs on Saturday. The Baltimore Ravens

1786
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 1: fell to the Los Angeles Chargers twenty three to seventeen. Yesterday.

1787
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 1: Chargers kicker Michael Badgeley kicked five field goals, setting a

1788
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 1: franchise record for field goals in a playoff game. Ravens

1789
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback Lamar Jackson through for one hundred and ninety

1790
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 1: four yards with an interception, and he was sacked seven times.

1791
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 1: LA will be in Foxborough to face the Patriots next Sunday.

1792
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,879
Speaker 1: The Colts beat the Cowboys excuse me, beat the Seahawks

1793
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty two on Saturday in Dallas, Dak

1794
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: Prescott completed twenty two of twenty three passes for two

1795
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six yards and a touchdown with an interception.

1796
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 1: Cowboys wide receiver Alan Hearns suffered a left anchors ankle

1797
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: injury in the first quarter and had surgery Saturday night.

1798
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: The Rams will host the Cowboys on Saturday. The Eagles

1799
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 1: beat the Bears sixteen to fifteen Yesterday. Kicker Cody Parkey

1800
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 1: missed a game winning field goal for the Bears after

1801
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:12,600
Speaker 1: it appeared that Eagles defensive tackle Treyvon Hester tipped the

1802
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: ball just enough off the line of scrimmage to help

1803
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: push it offline. The Eagles will face the Saints in

1804
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: New Orleans on Sunday. The Bills have signed CFL wide

1805
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 1: receiver Duke Williams to reserve future contract. Williams had fifteen

1806
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy nine yards and eleven touchdowns in the

1807
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season leading the CFL as a member of

1808
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:37,839
Speaker 1: the as a member of the Edmonton Eskimos. The Sabers

1809
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: practice this morning as they prepared to host the Devils

1810
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, who are fresh off a three to two

1811
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: loss to the Golden Knights. Jack Eichel was back on

1812
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 1: the ice today, but his and Zimgus Gurginson's status for

1813
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 1: the game will be decided tomorrow. Zach Bogosian had a

1814
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 1: maintenance day today, and Sam Wideheart is sick. The puck

1815
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: drop tomorrow night is at seven p m. Steve Tasker,

1816
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: along with Chris Here in One Bill's Live. We are

1817
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: pleased to be joined by national correspondent for ESPN and

1818
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: host of ESPN's NFL Matchup, who has covered a good

1819
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: friend of ours who has covered twenty five Super Bowls,

1820
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 1: Sal Palantonio. Sal, thanks for coming on the program, Steve Tasker,

1821
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown. How are you today, Oh, it's

1822
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: a great pleasure to talk to you guys. I'm doing great.

1823
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm just coming in from Chicago and happy to jump

1824
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: on the line with my friends up to Buffalo and

1825
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, talking to one of the greatest special teams

1826
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 1: players of all time. Steve Tasker. It was a special

1827
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: teams play that decided that wildcard game by by a fingertip.

1828
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: You know, it's just you gotta pay, you gotta play

1829
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 1: the game in all three phases, right, Yeah, that was

1830
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: that was an amazing play. Did you know, I don't

1831
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: know if you were on the sidelines or whatever. How

1832
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: fast did people find out that that ball had been

1833
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 1: tipped at the line of scrimmage? Pretty much right away.

1834
01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: I was on the sideline. I was along the Eagles bench,

1835
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: just about ten yards away from the edge of the

1836
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: bench because we didn't know which way it was gonna go.

1837
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 1: And you know, a situation like that, you've been on

1838
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: the sideline and you're trying to figure out who you're

1839
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: going to interview after the game, right, So we found

1840
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 1: out fairly quickly through social media that had happened. It's

1841
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 1: pretty interesting because it happened right in front of us,

1842
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 1: but we really didn't find out about it until it

1843
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: appeared on Twitter within about I would say, a minute

1844
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: minute and a half, so pretty quickly. Yeah. And did

1845
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 1: you did you get a chance to talk to Hester

1846
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 1: after the game? I mean he seemed pretty convinced. He

1847
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: and you know, He's like, oh, yeah, I got a

1848
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: piece of that thing. And it was hard to tell,

1849
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, watching on TV that it had been tipped. No,

1850
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 1: I mean we had no clue until you know, we

1851
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: saw some stuff on social media after Yeah. No, and

1852
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 1: they didn't mention. I don't know if they mentioned it

1853
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: on TV. No, I don't know. The only we have

1854
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: one angle of it that we've shown, and you from

1855
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 1: the sideline on the Chicago sideline him and towards a

1856
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: little bit towards the camera, you can get a sense

1857
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 1: that it did break the momentum of the ball without

1858
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 1: changing the spin all that much. Uh will never know

1859
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: if it made enough of a difference to keep it out,

1860
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: or whether it was the you know, or whether it

1861
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: would have been a worse kick or maybe a better kick.

1862
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: But no, no question, I thought it did change the

1863
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 1: trajectory of the of the kick and certainly the velocity

1864
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 1: of it. But be that as a day the right

1865
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: and they do. And you know, Kobe Party is going

1866
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: to get blamed a lot for it because of his

1867
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: recent history admission kicks, and that's that's just the fact

1868
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 1: of life unfortunately for him. Tell me does is let's

1869
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 1: just talk about the Eagles for just a second. South

1870
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 1: Nick Foles the quarterback who does not go gently into

1871
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 1: that good night. I mean, he will not go away.

1872
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 1: The guys continues to play extremely well to point in

1873
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 1: his career after which a lot of people had completely

1874
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: given up on him, and yet now here he is

1875
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: super Bowl MVP and taking his team on another playoff run.

1876
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I mean, I can't say enough about a

1877
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: how much this guy has been underrated and how much

1878
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: this guy is just not getting the credit he deserves.

1879
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 1: It just amazes me. And Steve when my hometown newspaper,

1880
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,759
Speaker 1: I picked it up in the airport and I'm reading

1881
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: through the spoorts section. You have to go eight I'm

1882
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 1: literally eight pages into the Philadelphia Daily News to find

1883
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 1: a story about Nick Foles's role in the game. Yeah,

1884
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of the winning team. And the headline

1885
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: is this foles legend continues to grow after a win.

1886
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, are you serious? Continues to grow.

1887
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: Here's here's what he accomplished yesterday in Chicago against the

1888
01:37:56,040 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 1: best defense in the NFL in the fourth quarter, engineered

1889
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 1: a twelve play drive for sixty yards that finished up

1890
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: with a fourth and two at the two yard line,

1891
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 1: Nick Foles whip with Leonard on his right in his face.

1892
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he sidearmed the ball around Leonard, who was

1893
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: who got whipped on the block off the edge of

1894
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: the and Foles. It was amazing. It's pretty amazing that

1895
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: he made the play call. Suggestion to Peterson right to

1896
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: make that Ye, Leonard Floyd is coming in, screaming, coming in.

1897
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson doesn't touch him because Lane Johnson's worried about

1898
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 1: the blitzing linebacker because it was a zero blitz, and

1899
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 1: so that leads Leonard Floyd, number ninety four to be

1900
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 1: blocked by Darren Sproles. He did not have a good game.

1901
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 1: We did not have a good game to begin with.

1902
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: And b is it probably about one third to size?

1903
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And so he whipps. He whipps on Leonard Floyd.

1904
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: This is one of the best pass rushers and he

1905
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 1: comes screaming in on Foles and falls has the side

1906
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: on the dime for the game winner to Golden Tate

1907
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: in the only place that Golden Tape could possibly catch

1908
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: the ball. So so so you know, let's please congratulate

1909
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: Nick Foles for for doing something that very few quarterbacks

1910
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL can do I mean, the list is small.

1911
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 1: It's Breeze, it's Brady and and not very many others.

1912
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 1: It's it's Philip Rivers maybe, but even even Philip Rivers,

1913
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't engineered many game winning fourth quarter drives on

1914
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: the road against the best defense in the league. That

1915
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: that's those are the parameters, and it's it's amazing to

1916
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: me that he doesn't get the credit that he deserves.

1917
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 1: So sal explained to us. Then, how sticky this narrative is,

1918
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: can get will get? Uh? You know, with with Nick

1919
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: and with Carson Wentz. I mean, I know the organization

1920
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,600
Speaker 1: at least last we heard, you know, is still, you know,

1921
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 1: fully committed to Carson Wentz going forward as their franchise quarterback.

1922
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying he's going to win in New Orleans.

1923
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: That's a very difficult place to win, especially with the

1924
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 1: way that team is rolling. But if he pulls off

1925
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: the unthinkable this weekend. How sticky does this narrative get

1926
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback? Well, I think it gets stickier by the week.

1927
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 1: To answer your question, I don't have an answer for

1928
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:30,720
Speaker 1: you of how it's going to turn out, because the

1929
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: narrative keeps changing. If the Eagles had lost last night

1930
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: in Chicago, the narrative would be much different than it

1931
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 1: is this morning. Correct, Yeah, true, absolutely? Okay. If the

1932
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 1: Eagles beat New Orleans, the narrative gets a lot stickier

1933
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 1: and much more complicated, does it not. Yeah, that the

1934
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,600
Speaker 1: Eagles win the NFC Championship game on the road with

1935
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 1: Nick Foles a quarterback and go to their second straight

1936
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Nick Foles a quarterback, then we're not

1937
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 1: having a conversation about a narrative. We're having a conversation

1938
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 1: about how are we keeping Nick Foles? Right now? They

1939
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 1: could now give me the specifics if you if you can,

1940
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 1: about what it comes down to. He's making twenty million

1941
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 1: dollars this year. No, no, no, no, no, so sure,

1942
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Next year he's due to make no foles

1943
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 1: for you, I'm sorry. Right, what are the options that

1944
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 1: Eagles have? Just straighten us out? Yeah, I think it's

1945
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 1: hard to straighten everybody out, because you know, here's the

1946
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: bottom line. Where there's a will, there's a way you

1947
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: talk to any accountant or any CFO of any organization

1948
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: and they'll tell you they can figure out how to

1949
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 1: keep somebody and how to make it work. You know,

1950
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 1: you ask an accountant what's one plus one and he'll

1951
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 1: say to you, it's whatever you want it to be.

1952
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 1: So I think I think that goes for the salary

1953
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: tap in the NFL as well. If they want to

1954
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 1: keep Nick Foles and Carson Leentz, they will figure out

1955
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,640
Speaker 1: a way. I don't think. I don't think organizationally or

1956
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 1: institutionally they've made that decision yet. And like I try

1957
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 1: to just explain, I think the narrative changes, and I think,

1958
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: now you know, it's it's all about, Okay, how do

1959
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 1: we go down to New Orleans and play in the

1960
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 1: most hostile environment in the nfcuit. I mean, I know

1961
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: we're probably getting ahead of ourselves, you know, with this

1962
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: whole quarterback thing, because there are playoff games to be played.

1963
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 1: But at the same time, just trying to play devil's

1964
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: advocate here for a second, sal don't you think it

1965
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 1: would behove Nick's agent to say, we can make a

1966
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 1: whole lot more money on the open market and you

1967
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: can start every week for some other team. I know

1968
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: the grass isn't always greener, but the money, the money

1969
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 1: certainly is And I gotta believe there's teams out there

1970
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 1: willing to pay him starter money, you know, more than

1971
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia is willing to pay. And I would I

1972
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: would be inclined to think that his agents tell him,

1973
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,600
Speaker 1: don't you do not sign anything in Philadelphia, no matter what,

1974
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 1: until we see what else is out there. Yeah. I

1975
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: don't really want to play the speculation game with it

1976
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 1: because I would be talking in non specifics. But the

1977
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: bottom line is the narrative changes every week. Their sense

1978
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 1: of their leverage changes every week. In the first half,

1979
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 1: their leverage was evaporating. He had thrown them two picks

1980
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 1: that they were losing the game. In the second half,

1981
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: he underneered a fourth quarter drive to win the game,

1982
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 1: So his leverage changed just in the course of a

1983
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: sixty minute ball game. So we can we can talk

1984
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: about a lot of different scenarios, none of which matter

1985
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 1: until the season is over. Fair enough, Yeah, it's fair enough.

1986
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 1: And plus you also have to factor into this. Who's

1987
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: the competition, right Flacco? Is it Joe Flacco? Is it?

1988
01:43:54,280 --> 01:44:00,040
Speaker 1: Eli Manning? Joe Flacco, Blake Bortles and Nick Foles? I

1989
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:03,799
Speaker 1: mean you there's many permutations, and who are the suitors?

1990
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 1: Is it Champa? Is it Jacksonville? Is it? The New

1991
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 1: York Giants are Miami? Is Is there a coach that's

1992
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 1: married to a quarterback that we don't know of? Is

1993
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots looking for the heir apparent to

1994
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Would they be willing to trade for somebody?

1995
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 1: And you gotta also remember this, since you want to

1996
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 1: go down this road, I'll go down with you. We're

1997
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: all holding hands for every Doug Peterson out there. There's

1998
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: a Jeff Fisher. So Nick Foles has already tried the

1999
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 1: grass is greener and he came back to Philadelphia where

2000
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: he has been happy and a whole as a person,

2001
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: made money, made history. You know, there's an old thing.

2002
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 1: You can go out and make money and that's all

2003
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 1: you'll make. If you go out and make some history,

2004
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 1: you probably make both. It's so, what is the feeling

2005
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz. This is second year in a row

2006
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 1: where he's had missed multiple games and missed the end

2007
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 1: of the season. The what's going forward? Is there any

2008
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:10,719
Speaker 1: concern about his career taking a little bend towards maybe

2009
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford territory where he has a hard time playing

2010
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: sixteen games and into the playoffs. I don't know if

2011
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 1: I want to go there. I will just say this,

2012
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: The facts are the facts. He played sixteen games his

2013
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:26,640
Speaker 1: first year, he played thirteen games a second year. He

2014
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: played eleven games his third year. And so I mean

2015
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 1: that raises questions about durability, right, Why don't we look

2016
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:41,759
Speaker 1: ahead here to Saints Eagles down at the Dome, difficult

2017
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 1: place as we know to win, especially with the way

2018
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: that Saints team is playing right now? How much do

2019
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: you anticipate Sean Payton watching the tape from yesterday, particularly

2020
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 1: in the second half when the Bears were double moving

2021
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 1: that Eagle secondary to death, and saying, hey, here's something

2022
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: we can use because that secondary, that's got to be

2023
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 1: of some concern for Philly going into this one, right, Yeah,

2024
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 1: And it was a concern obviously Major League Week eleven

2025
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 1: on November eighteenth. So when he Bogles got waxed down

2026
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 1: in New Orleans forty eight to seven, and the guy

2027
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 1: who got double moved like crazy, he was the rookie

2028
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 1: Avonte Maddox for ten and he got double moved by

2029
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson twice. And he got double moved after that

2030
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 1: on a player to set up another another big player

2031
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: on a touchdown. So three times he was targeted in

2032
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 1: the football game. At the late late in the football game,

2033
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 1: Maggie just decided he was going to go after that

2034
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 1: Robinson versus Maddox match up, and Jim Schwartz didn't change.

2035
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, they'll they'll definitely look at that. And here's

2036
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: something something interesting. So Doug Peterson told me last night

2037
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 1: he had never even looked at the of the week

2038
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 1: eleven lost in New Orleans. He said, I just I

2039
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: just discarded it. I got rid of it. I just

2040
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,640
Speaker 1: said I want to move on that. That was just

2041
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 1: a bad day for us. But he said he's going

2042
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 1: to go back and look at it and try to determine,

2043
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 1: you know, what went wrong and what they do differently

2044
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: now to maybe make the game a little bit closer

2045
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 1: or to beat New Orleans down there. We all know

2046
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 1: how hard it is to beat them down there, and

2047
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 1: the only way that you can do it is by

2048
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 1: attacking Drew Brees up the middle. That's that's, that's that's

2049
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 1: the formula for success. Because he's so great at creating

2050
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 1: passing lanes up the middle. He's so great getting the

2051
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 1: ball out of his hands so quickly that's why he

2052
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 1: never gets touched. Help us with help us with the

2053
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 1: participation though, sal in turn, because back in week eleven

2054
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 1: that was as injured as the Eagles secondary was. They

2055
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 1: are somewhat healthier now, right, Yeah, no, they're They're a

2056
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 1: different team, as Doug said last night, and the major

2057
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 1: difference is they're healthier defensively. Yeah for sure. I mean

2058
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: Kim Joern again being healthy at defensive tackle is a

2059
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 1: big is a big win for them that, there's no

2060
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 1: question about that. And they're a little bit better in

2061
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 1: the secondary, notwithstanding what happened last night. Um No, they'll

2062
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: they'll be able to move the ball on the Saints

2063
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 1: a little bit better. You know. They only they only

2064
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 1: had one hundred and ninety sixty yards in that game

2065
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 1: back in November, only thirteen first downs and only one

2066
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight yards passing. So with Nika Pihelm,

2067
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 1: it'll be a different team. I just want to ask

2068
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 1: you about one more game before we let you go, Sould.

2069
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: It's it's the AFC matchup, and we you know here

2070
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, we've been watching Bill Belichick and Tom Brady

2071
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 1: for a long long time, lifetime now and now it's

2072
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Brownie and I both think

2073
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 1: this matchup with the Chargers coming up on Saturday may

2074
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: be the one matchup that that in the AFC may

2075
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 1: get away from the Patriots, particularly in their own building

2076
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: where they're so difficult to be. You gotta Philip Rivers,

2077
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 1: who never gets outsmarted. He's gonna be on top of

2078
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 1: whatever defense they've got they've got going, and he's got

2079
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 1: some talent around him that could take advantage of maybe

2080
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 1: some some guys on on New England. What do you

2081
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: think about the matchup between the Chargers in New England? Well, yeah,

2082
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 1: are you asking me to buy or to sell that idea?

2083
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm not buying it, right, I'm definitely selling it. I've

2084
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 1: seen enough Patriots games in the postseason in Foxborough where

2085
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:47,720
Speaker 1: the hopes and dreams veteran quarterbacks go to die, right,

2086
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 1: And I don't care who it is. You can go

2087
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 1: down the list so um until you do something, I'm

2088
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 1: not gonna say you can do it. And I'm not

2089
01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 1: ready to say that. Philip Rivers can go in there

2090
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 1: and wait. They gotta go back home to La regroup,

2091
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 1: travel across the country, play in Foxborough in January, where

2092
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 1: nobody wins Tom Brady and Bill Belichick unless you're Joe

2093
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 1: Flacco and John Harbaugh and once upon a time Rex

2094
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 1: Ryan and Bart Scott. I was gonna say, Sal you

2095
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 1: were there for that Jets one because I remember you

2096
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 1: talking to Bart Scott after the game. That was the interview. Right.

2097
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 1: That's the list right there. Yeah, it's not very long.

2098
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: That is the list. So until he can do it,

2099
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he can do it. Have you

2100
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 1: seen have you seen the Patriots play this year? And

2101
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 1: what do you think about the way they look compared

2102
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 1: to those years past when they were almost invincible. Well,

2103
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:45,879
Speaker 1: you know, I have seen them play. I did sideline

2104
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 1: radio for ESPN Radio with our friend Bill Cooleian when

2105
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots lost in Pittsburgh, which was a big indication

2106
01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 1: of how they are vulnerable. But they were on the

2107
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: road and the biggest difference is Gronkowski. That is a

2108
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 1: major difference offensively, and they let the offensive game. James

2109
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 1: White went into some kind of witness protection program. I

2110
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 1: don't know what happened there that that was silly, Just

2111
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 1: like last Night of TERI Cohen run into some kind

2112
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: of witness protections. I don't understand what Matt Nagy was doing,

2113
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 1: but Teri Cohen was open, and when he wasn't open,

2114
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't in the game. So I don't understand that

2115
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 1: whole thing. They should have gotten him the vall much

2116
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 1: much more throughout the game and against Pittsburgh, I thought

2117
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 1: James White was utterly underutilized, especially when you don't have

2118
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 1: a healthy cronck. So you know, I think that that

2119
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 1: is is something they will adjust to. I'm talking about

2120
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 1: the Pats. I think it's a very difficult road to

2121
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 1: home for the Chargers to go back and forth and

2122
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 1: to play Tom Brady in New England. Where you gonna

2123
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: be this weekend. Um, let let me think about that

2124
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 1: for a second. Just got off a plane. He didn't

2125
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,560
Speaker 1: know what day it is, right right, and uh it

2126
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,759
Speaker 1: has probably had a little bit to do with Gumbo.

2127
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: I might be down there. Yeah, yeah, I kind of.

2128
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: I've been on this. Uh, I've been on this, uh,

2129
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 1: this team for a while now. And as you said

2130
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: at the very top of it, we keep talking about

2131
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 1: Nick Foles's demise, but he won't go away, all right,

2132
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 1: And it's been a it's been it's been great to watch.

2133
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 1: It really has you think about it for a second.

2134
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 1: He beat Wade Phillips, he beat Romeo Cornell, guys who

2135
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 1: have won Super Bowls. He'd beat Belichick and the Super

2136
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:56,560
Speaker 1: Bowl guy with five. Yesterday he beat Vic Fangio in

2137
01:52:56,640 --> 01:53:00,639
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in Chicago, a guy who is interviewing

2138
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: today with the Broncos for their head coaching job. If

2139
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm John Elway, the first thing I'm going to ask

2140
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: them is, Hey, what happened on that uh in that

2141
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: fourth quarter drive? There at twelve play drive? How'd you

2142
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:15,679
Speaker 1: let Nick Foles beach at home in the fourth quarter?

2143
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 1: That's let's go through that drive and tell me what

2144
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 1: you did here, what the heck happened? And then the

2145
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 1: next question should be should we signed Nick Foles and

2146
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:28,440
Speaker 1: get him out of Philadelphia? It's curiously all right, South Palentonio,

2147
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: thanks so much for being on with us. Appreciated, South Palentonio,

2148
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 1: ESPN national correspondent, host of ESPN's NFL Matchup, covered twenty

2149
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,720
Speaker 1: five Super Bowls, salth thanks so much for being on.

2150
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: Travel safer and we'll see you down the road. Okay.

2151
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 1: Thanks sal Sal Sal Powe comes to us on the

2152
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 1: Subway Fresh Take Hotline presented by Subway restaurants proud to

2153
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 1: be locally owned and operated Subway Eat Fresh. And it's amazing, man,

2154
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. How do you make a call on that? Like,

2155
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:59,799
Speaker 1: what's the right call? Like you you met, You invested

2156
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: a lot to get up the board, to get Carson

2157
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 1: Wentz two years ago. He's graying at an MVP level.

2158
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 1: Last year when he got injured in Week eleven out

2159
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 1: in LA, I mean he was, he was a front

2160
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 1: runner for NFL MVP, Yes he was. And then he

2161
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 1: gets hurt. Nick Foles takes the reins and goes on

2162
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 1: an unbelievable run and they win the Super Bowl, three

2163
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 1: regular season games and then and he's doing it again.

2164
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, he beats New Orleans next week

2165
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 1: down in there. Holy cow. I mean, good luck making

2166
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: that call. Well, I think what I would do is

2167
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:42,959
Speaker 1: I think they've got the idea that they could franchise

2168
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 1: him or transition tag him and trade him and get

2169
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 1: something for him. They they'll try to do that. They're

2170
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 1: gonna try and get something for him. I don't know

2171
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: if they want to, but a fractured vertebrae is is

2172
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 1: a pretty alarming injury for a quarterback. Is it not?

2173
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 1: I know to see that's the thing. How that's alarmist,

2174
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 1: it's you're almost right where the Colts were last year

2175
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 1: with Andrew Luck? Is he ever gonna come back? But

2176
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: they didn't even have another option. They had Jacobe Brissette.

2177
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 1: That's not Nick Foles. It's a Super Bowl MVP. This

2178
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: is tough, right, that's just did you got fools? Who

2179
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 1: is has yet to falter? Right? It's amazing. I don't know.

2180
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: He's ten and two in his last twelve games. He's

2181
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 1: got a horseshoe somewhere, That's all I'm saying. And he's

2182
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 1: playing good. He's not Day Luck. He's playing good. Well

2183
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 1: he's but just like sal pointed out, the guy throws

2184
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: two picks. He looks like he's dead and buried and

2185
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 1: get what you can on the free agent market. And

2186
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: then he stages a fourth quarter drive, throws a game

2187
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,800
Speaker 1: winning touchdown past side arm in a window that's about

2188
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: ten inches big, and wins the game and gets a

2189
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 1: block field goal at the end. Right, there's a little

2190
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 1: bit of a horseshoe there. Think about this. If the

2191
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 1: kick goes through, what kind of what's the conversation? Yeah,

2192
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 1: but if he goes down there and beats breeze, Holy crow,

2193
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna be going bananas down there. All right, We're

2194
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna all right. We got more good way, I guess,

2195
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 1: lots of playoffs stuff to talk about. South Palli Antonio

2196
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 1: was just on with us. We had Thurman Thomas on

2197
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: the show earlier. We're gonna come back. I still got

2198
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 1: a beef NFL true false. We got one more thing

2199
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 1: we got to talk about with Brownie regarding the College

2200
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. Basically One Bills Live presented by

2201
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 1: Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's

2202
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 1: radio welcome back in One Bill's Lives Steeve task along

2203
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 1: with Chris Brown, John Murphy had the day off. We're

2204
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 1: in the last half hour of the show, gone from

2205
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 1: noon to three. Here at One Bill's Drive. You can

2206
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 1: see they're a shot on the msg of the empty

2207
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 1: stadium with no goldpost or anything. Man, it looks bear

2208
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 1: looks completely bare. One of the things that came out

2209
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about today and a hold on,

2210
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 1: let me make sure I've got the exact right sheet

2211
01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 1: in front of me, because we've been talking about doing

2212
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 1: this all day. This is something that came across the wire.

2213
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 1: Vince Young headlines a star studied College Football Hall of

2214
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: Fame class of twenty nineteen. Terrell Buckley, Ricky Dixon, London

2215
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 1: Fletcher very nice, Jacob Green, Tory Holt, Darren McFadden, Jake Plummer,

2216
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 1: Troy Palamalu, Joe Thomas, uh and Lorenzo White Um also

2217
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 1: some coaches. Dennis ericson Um is in as well. So

2218
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 1: it's uh, very nice that you know that all these guys,

2219
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:41,800
Speaker 1: it's a big un very worthy recipients. Mcgrats to all

2220
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 1: of them, rock Hey, rocket Ishmael Patrick Willis. There's a

2221
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:48,080
Speaker 1: lot of guys in it. Uh and of course, uh

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01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 1: all these guys that you know. Tonight's national championship between

2223
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 1: Alabama and Cleanson the third time in the last four years.

2224
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 1: Big night, Big game tonight. And you had a little

2225
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 1: bit of an issue with the College Football Hall of Fame, right,

2226
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 1: So they have the National Football Foundation, which is affiliated

2227
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:09,120
Speaker 1: with the College Football Hall of Fame, and this induction class.

2228
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 1: I've got no problem with any name on that list.

2229
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 1: Great college careers. Congrats to them, Happy for them now,

2230
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: as excited as they might be upon hearing that they're

2231
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 1: part of the twenty nineteen induction class. I can't imagine

2232
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 1: how they felt when they've heard about the honorary inductee

2233
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 1: who's also going in here in twenty nineteen. Let me

2234
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 1: just read the final paragraph of the article. The College

2235
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame will also induct the Goodyear Blimp

2236
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 1: as an honorary member this year. Will be the first

2237
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: non that's going to be the honorary inductee this year.

2238
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 1: A freaking blimp. Steve, Steve a balloon, Steve a blimp.

2239
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 1: I hear you, man, I mean, what criteria do we

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01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 1: have to be inducted into the College Football Hall of

2241
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 1: Fame An honorary member? Is the blimp? Come on? Oh, well,

2242
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 1: they provide aerial views at games. They've done it for

2243
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 1: fifty five years. What kind of money did Goodyear pay

2244
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 1: to be an honorary inductee into the College Football Hall

2245
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 1: of Fame. We haven't jumped the shark here. I mean,

2246
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 1: this is beyond evil kinevil stuff. I mean the Goodyear Blimp.

2247
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Steve. I thought it was bad when we

2248
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 1: started putting horses on the Greatest Athletes of All Time lists.

2249
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 1: You know, Secretariat what was that other horse that made it?

2250
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. A couple other horses made the all

2251
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 1: time list. You know, I'm like horses with humans. What

2252
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 1: are we doing? We've gone way beyond that. Now we're

2253
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:50,080
Speaker 1: not even in the stratosphere of normalcy here. You're putting

2254
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 1: blimps in the Hall of Fame for college football? Come on,

2255
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 1: what is going on here? Who? Who came up with?

2256
01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:00,560
Speaker 1: Here's the best part? Are you ready? Here's the They

2257
02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 1: have a press release, two page press release to announce

2258
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 1: that the blimp is an honorary member for the College

2259
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. Dragged poor kirkhurb Street. They got

2260
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 1: poor Kirk herb Street on the phone and said, Kirk,

2261
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:17,040
Speaker 1: we need your help. We need your help. Oh yeah, sure,

2262
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 1: what's going on? Guys, Nice to talk to you. We

2263
02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 1: need you to give us a quote as to why

2264
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:27,480
Speaker 1: the Goodyear Blimp is worthy of being an honorary member

2265
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 1: of the College Football Hall of Fame. Could you imagine

2266
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 1: how far Kirk curb Street's jaw dropped when he heard that? Yeah,

2267
02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Kirk's a good guy, don't get me wrong,

2268
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 1: has been a champion for college football. What better guy

2269
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: to get a quote from right to talk about the

2270
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 1: worthiness of the candidacy of the Goodyear Blimp to be

2271
02:00:46,640 --> 02:00:49,640
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame member. So here's poor Kirk, here's

2272
02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 1: the quote they stuck him with for this one. Ready,

2273
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 1: I've been lucky enough to both play and broadcast underneath

2274
02:00:57,080 --> 02:01:01,040
Speaker 1: the shadow of one of sports biggest i and each

2275
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 1: time it's special for me. Playing under the blimp felt

2276
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 1: like a payoff for the hard work that goes into

2277
02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 1: game day. So I'm excited it's getting recognized for its

2278
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 1: contributions to college football? Are you kidding me? They had

2279
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 1: to probably pay Kirk to put his name to that

2280
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 1: quote because he didn't say that, what Steve? Come on,

2281
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 1: what player? What player gave two cents of seeing the

2282
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:30,160
Speaker 1: blimp above the field of a game. Nobody gave a

2283
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 1: damn if the blimp was there. Come on, maybe they

2284
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:36,880
Speaker 1: gave Kirk. You've gotta be kidding me. They are out

2285
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:40,400
Speaker 1: to breakfast, lunch, and dinner. If they think any player

2286
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:44,080
Speaker 1: gave a hoot that the blimp was up there shooting

2287
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 1: an aerial shot of their football game. They didn't care

2288
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,960
Speaker 1: one iota if that thing was floating around out there.

2289
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:54,280
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. You want to honor them for contributions to

2290
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:59,440
Speaker 1: college football in some honorary wing over here. You're gonna

2291
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 1: stick him in the same wing as the players. How

2292
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: does rocket Ismail feel going in with the blimp? Come on,

2293
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:10,680
Speaker 1: you can't tell me. He's all excited. Hey, gets us

2294
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:16,680
Speaker 1: in your induction class? The blimp? What what be memorable?

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Speaker 1: A floating vehicle? I mean, come on, Steve, who do

2296
02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 1: we have to call to get this fixed? This isn't right.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we gotta start. So you're voting no on

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Speaker 1: the blimp thing? Then well they didn't even have to vote.

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Speaker 1: He got in automatically. Yeah, that's interesting too. I wonder

2300
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 1: who make Does somebody in the committee say how about it?

2301
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:42,400
Speaker 1: Or does it say hey, we got I think that's

2302
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:45,240
Speaker 1: even more damning, don't you. Someone came up with this idea,

2303
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 1: put it before the committee, said that sounds great to me.

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02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:53,120
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Yeah, a blimp, Steve, a blimp, not

2305
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:57,560
Speaker 1: even like some guy that you know ran the board

2306
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 1: for college football for forty years, you know, contributions to

2307
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:04,680
Speaker 1: the game expanded, the ball came up with the idea

2308
02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:07,960
Speaker 1: for the college football playoff. Somebody that had some kind

2309
02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:10,400
Speaker 1: of brain cells I mean when i'd be talking about

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Speaker 1: a living thing here. Yeah, and I was no pun

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02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:15,680
Speaker 1: int I was gonna say, and I was a stupid

2312
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 1: had setter terry. It was an athlete of some sort

2313
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 1: who floated this idea out there. But it's a pun

2314
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:24,080
Speaker 1: But who who is the first guy that brought that up? Right?

2315
02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:26,760
Speaker 1: I like to know, I really would, because you always think,

2316
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, for me, like to write him a letter?

2317
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 1: I always I always think this. I always think, listen,

2318
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:33,920
Speaker 1: did Goodyear? Did the CEO a good Year? Come up?

2319
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:36,440
Speaker 1: Call up and say, hey, listen, I got a lot

2320
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 1: of money in my pocket and I'm paying give it

2321
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 1: to you. Just put a plaque, been paying to you

2322
02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:43,480
Speaker 1: for fifty five years, and we need a little payback

2323
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 1: and follow the money we need. Yeah, unbelievable, I would say, maybe,

2324
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:49,480
Speaker 1: But that's got to be where it is, because there

2325
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:53,200
Speaker 1: is no You cannot come up with a right reason

2326
02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:57,840
Speaker 1: to make a blimp an honorary inductee into the College

2327
02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 1: Football Hall. It's embarrassing. Yeah, it's me. It's embarrassing. You've

2328
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 1: you've you've you've stained the legacy of all the other

2329
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:07,200
Speaker 1: inductees that deservedly got into the Hall of Fame listen

2330
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 1: because it's and I will say that it is a

2331
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 1: big deal because if you seen the name list on

2332
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:13,840
Speaker 1: those the names on those lists, it's amazing. I mean,

2333
02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 1: it's a great it's a fantastic list. Biscuits on that list.

2334
02:04:18,240 --> 02:04:21,040
Speaker 1: Biscuits got in a couple of years ago. Somehow change

2335
02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:25,040
Speaker 1: your perception when you find out the blimp is on

2336
02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:27,560
Speaker 1: the list. Yeah, and it's a little bit like what

2337
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:29,760
Speaker 1: you said with the great the sportsman of the year

2338
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:33,080
Speaker 1: is a horse, Yeah, I would probably you know, yeah,

2339
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:34,760
Speaker 1: but you know I can, I can at least get

2340
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:37,200
Speaker 1: around like all right, most dominant horse of his era,

2341
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 1: one of the greatest thing. Okay, at least it's some

2342
02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 1: kind of athletic pursuit. He's racing against horses. Anyway, This

2343
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:47,040
Speaker 1: guy's floating above his stadium. It's not even a he

2344
02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 1: or a shade. And it's probably not even the same

2345
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:51,800
Speaker 1: one that started. They probably have, you know what I mean,

2346
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:55,120
Speaker 1: it's probably a new blimp. It doesn't even have career longevity.

2347
02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:57,720
Speaker 1: They probably had to retire the first one after two years,

2348
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:02,520
Speaker 1: go to the next one, and the next one. Honorary inductee. Unbelievable.

2349
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:04,120
Speaker 1: We got to write a letter. All right, we're gonna go.

2350
02:05:04,160 --> 02:05:09,280
Speaker 1: We're we're gonna go to NFL. True false. Brought to

2351
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Speaker 1: you by Yes and I and I heard it and

2352
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:14,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Brought to you by Yancy's Fancy

2353
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 1: New York's artisan cheese. All right, um and here we

2354
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:22,640
Speaker 1: go NFL. True false. Number one The Broncos should trade

2355
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 1: von Miller. Okay, so Broncos should trade von Miller. I

2356
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 1: saw Mark Slayreth had this take. Okay, you know, I

2357
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 1: actually think you can make a case for that. And

2358
02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:39,760
Speaker 1: it all comes down to where do you stand on

2359
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:43,880
Speaker 1: what the Broncos are as a team right now? Do

2360
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:49,280
Speaker 1: you still think you have a defense good enough where

2361
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 1: maybe if you add a quarterback in a receiver you

2362
02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 1: can still make a run at it. If you think

2363
02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:58,360
Speaker 1: you can, you don't trade von Miller. But if you're

2364
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 1: at the point where you've got to take out the

2365
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 1: old roadrunner in Coyote TNT plunger and blow it up,

2366
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 1: then yes, you trade von Miller. I think this team

2367
02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:13,839
Speaker 1: is in full blown rebold mold rebuild mode in my opinion,

2368
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 1: so I would say true, trade von Miller, get draft capital,

2369
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:22,640
Speaker 1: get what you can get, and rebuild this thing. From

2370
02:06:22,640 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 1: the ground up. Always got to start over in my opinion, Well,

2371
02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:29,760
Speaker 1: certainly there won't be any any shortage of takers. The

2372
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:32,440
Speaker 1: question is what his contract is, how long they get

2373
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:35,920
Speaker 1: him for if they trade, because he's twenty nine thirty. Yeah,

2374
02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean he's probably got three years left him. Right,

2375
02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:40,880
Speaker 1: He's not gonna get elite years. Right, He's not gonna

2376
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:44,400
Speaker 1: get Khalil macmoney. And you're not gonna get two ones

2377
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:48,360
Speaker 1: for him, but for me, and I've always said this,

2378
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:50,320
Speaker 1: get one for him, you know this? Yeah, but you

2379
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:55,640
Speaker 1: know this. Everybody's tradeable if for the right price, and

2380
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:58,400
Speaker 1: sometimes the prices outlandish and you just won't nobody will

2381
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:00,560
Speaker 1: meet it, which is why he's untradeable. But he you know,

2382
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:04,120
Speaker 1: if you could come up with enough, ayboy, anybody will

2383
02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 1: ever anybody will trade anybody. So but should they, um,

2384
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 1: if they're gonna go and read they don't have a

2385
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:13,080
Speaker 1: quarterback that they like, they traded away to Marius Thomas, right,

2386
02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 1: they trade they don't have a number one receiver. If

2387
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:17,800
Speaker 1: they can get enough draft capital in a in a

2388
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:21,200
Speaker 1: in a year where defensive line is very deep in

2389
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,320
Speaker 1: this draft and guys that they think they could get

2390
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 1: some pieces and maybe a player and some and get

2391
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:29,000
Speaker 1: cap relief because of it. Yeah, you can trade von Miller,

2392
02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:30,360
Speaker 1: no question about it, if you can get what you

2393
02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:32,280
Speaker 1: want for him. Certainly, I don't think any players above

2394
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:34,880
Speaker 1: and I think I think Denver is helped by the

2395
02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 1: impact that Khalil mac had in Chicago because I think

2396
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:40,800
Speaker 1: there's probably enough teams out there that you could convince

2397
02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:45,240
Speaker 1: might be a pass. Here's your guy, right, Yeah, I

2398
02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:46,800
Speaker 1: mean there's some teams out there that are close. The

2399
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills need an edge rusher if they could get

2400
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 1: him for a couple three years from rand him, the

2401
02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars get their defense even stronger to let him

2402
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 1: find somebody um or trade straight across for maybe send

2403
02:07:57,640 --> 02:08:01,000
Speaker 1: him to Philly and get Nick Foles back there. You go. Okay,

2404
02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:02,760
Speaker 1: look what you just so we'll say we'll both say

2405
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:05,560
Speaker 1: trail everybody. The Broncos should trade von Miller. Okay. Now,

2406
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:08,920
Speaker 1: the second thing NFL true false. The Chargers are the

2407
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:12,200
Speaker 1: most complete team in the AFC. I can hear the

2408
02:08:12,360 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 1: arguments for this, and I can see it. It's hard

2409
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 1: for me to say that after what I just saw

2410
02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:21,839
Speaker 1: from Indianapolis. They're a pretty complete football team. The Patriots

2411
02:08:21,880 --> 02:08:24,400
Speaker 1: are still in that mix. They can still beat you

2412
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 1: on either side of the football if you don't watch

2413
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 1: what you're doing. But yeah, I like where the Chargers are.

2414
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:32,960
Speaker 1: I think they may be the most completely talented team.

2415
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers gives them something. Keenan Allen gives them something

2416
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:38,080
Speaker 1: on the on the offense, and so does Melvin Gordon

2417
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 1: on on defense. They've got Joey Bosa, They've got some

2418
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:42,680
Speaker 1: guys over there to complain get out for the pass rush.

2419
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:46,480
Speaker 1: They won that game rush and four guys predominantly in Houston.

2420
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:48,320
Speaker 1: I think that says a lot for their defense. So

2421
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:50,720
Speaker 1: I'd be willing to say true. I think the Chargers

2422
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:52,600
Speaker 1: are the most complete team, and I give them the

2423
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 1: edge because one, Philip Rivers is so experienced and he's

2424
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 1: so good at making sure his offense is in the

2425
02:08:58,280 --> 02:09:01,320
Speaker 1: right play. And secondly, I think they're talented all the

2426
02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:03,240
Speaker 1: way across the front line of their roster on both sides.

2427
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:05,080
Speaker 1: I think you took the words right out of my mouth.

2428
02:09:05,080 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 1: They're the most talented team in the AFC. It's not

2429
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 1: even close. I mean, you think about their offense, as

2430
02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:12,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned, their defense, even their special teams. I mean,

2431
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:16,440
Speaker 1: they have a Pro Bowl level return man in Desmond King,

2432
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:21,240
Speaker 1: and they have this young kicker Badgeley, who's come in

2433
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:24,080
Speaker 1: and been rock solid for them. I mean, five field

2434
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:26,839
Speaker 1: goals yesterday and the only one he missed got blocked.

2435
02:09:27,160 --> 02:09:31,960
Speaker 1: So I think all across the board, it's clearly the

2436
02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:35,520
Speaker 1: most talented team. Is it the best team? Is it

2437
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:38,360
Speaker 1: the best team? And I think the jury is somewhat

2438
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:41,200
Speaker 1: out on that. But I don't think New England is

2439
02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:45,000
Speaker 1: more complete than them. I don't think Kansas City is

2440
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:48,120
Speaker 1: because their defense is weak. I agree with you Indianapolis

2441
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 1: is the closest thing to being as complete as them.

2442
02:09:51,640 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 1: But I'm going true here too. I think the Chargers

2443
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:56,240
Speaker 1: are the most complete team left in the here. All right,

2444
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:58,520
Speaker 1: that's NFL true false, brought to you by Yancey's Fancy

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02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:00,320
Speaker 1: New York's Artist and Cheese. We're gonna take a break,

2446
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:05,200
Speaker 1: come back and wrap up the show. We've had Thurman Thomas,

2447
02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:07,160
Speaker 1: we have South Palestonio. Chris Brown has been in all

2448
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 1: named old day. And you're gonna go back to your

2449
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 1: regular job after this tomorrow. I think so. Unless there's

2450
02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:16,760
Speaker 1: something I don't always welcome here, you know that is

2451
02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:18,760
Speaker 1: a place here for you. That's great, right, Well, we'll

2452
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:20,920
Speaker 1: be back Chris. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive

2453
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:37,600
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned?

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2456
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Speaker 1: a good show today. We had Hall of Fame running

2457
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:45,640
Speaker 1: back Thurman Thomas. So on we got talking about the

2458
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:48,600
Speaker 1: wild card playoff weekend and what's coming down the road

2459
02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:51,040
Speaker 1: and and some of the work that head coach Frank

2460
02:10:51,120 --> 02:10:53,560
Speaker 1: Reich has done with Indianapolis. And here's what Thurman Thomas,

2461
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 1: hall of Fame running back, had to say about the

2462
02:10:55,680 --> 02:11:00,760
Speaker 1: Colts offense. And that's what the GM Chris ballas, we

2463
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:03,120
Speaker 1: need to striffen up our officsive line because we got

2464
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:05,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback who at the beginning of the year they

2465
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:08,200
Speaker 1: didn't really know how that shoulder was going to operate.

2466
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:10,960
Speaker 1: And man, Frank, right after going one in five starting

2467
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:13,480
Speaker 1: off the season, finished what ten and six, Yeah, ten

2468
02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:16,720
Speaker 1: and six. That offensive line was the reason and now

2469
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 1: they're starting to run the football. That was Thurman Thomas.

2470
02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:23,200
Speaker 1: Also we had later on in the show, we had

2471
02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:26,960
Speaker 1: South Pallantonio on the Nick Foles and Carson Wentz controversy.

2472
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 1: Something's going to happen in Philadelphia at the quarterback spot.

2473
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 1: And this is what Suth Palenttonio said about what might happen.

2474
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 1: I think it gets stickier by the weed. To answer

2475
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:42,280
Speaker 1: your question, I don't have an answer for you of

2476
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:45,680
Speaker 1: how it's going to turn out because the narrative keeps changing.

2477
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 1: If the Eagles had lost last night in Chicago, the

2478
02:11:49,480 --> 02:11:54,280
Speaker 1: narrative would be much different than it is this morning. Correct, Yeah, absolutely, Okay.

2479
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 1: If the Eagles beat in New Orleans, the narrative gets

2480
02:11:57,360 --> 02:12:00,520
Speaker 1: a lot stickier and much more complicated, does it not. Yeah,

2481
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:04,560
Speaker 1: that the Eagles win the NFC Championship game on the

2482
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:07,520
Speaker 1: road with Nick Foles a quarterback and go to their

2483
02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:10,960
Speaker 1: second straight Super Bowl with Nick Foles a quarterback, then

2484
02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:14,960
Speaker 1: we're not having a conversation about a narrative. We're having

2485
02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:19,120
Speaker 1: a conversation about how are we keeping Nick Cole. That

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02:12:19,320 --> 02:12:22,360
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2490
02:12:31,360 --> 02:12:33,720
Speaker 1: got a decision to make Nick Foles has played way

2491
02:12:33,800 --> 02:12:36,160
Speaker 1: too well to kick him to the curb. Right, It's

2492
02:12:36,200 --> 02:12:39,840
Speaker 1: gonna be really hard, because what do we got. Wentz

2493
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 1: is going to be coming out of his rookie contract

2494
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:44,960
Speaker 1: here in the next year or so. You're gonna the

2495
02:12:45,040 --> 02:12:46,520
Speaker 1: rubber is going to meet the road there on the

2496
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 1: money you're gonna have to shell out for him. You're

2497
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:50,800
Speaker 1: gonna have to change that roster because you're not gonna

2498
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:53,800
Speaker 1: be able to pay free agents high price money, and

2499
02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:56,040
Speaker 1: you're not going to certainly be able to pay a

2500
02:12:56,120 --> 02:13:00,880
Speaker 1: backup quarterback upwards of fifteen to eighteen million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: We also learned today that blims do not belong in

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Speaker 1: any Hall of fame. You are right, Although your producer

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Speaker 1: Jay Harris is telling me you're gonna try to get

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Speaker 1: him on the show tomorrow to interview the blimp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'd be hard. He won't fit in the room. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna answer too many questions because

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Speaker 1: he ain't human. Brownie, thanks for coming in. You were great.

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Speaker 1: Murphy's gonna be back tomorrow. Also, Lorenzo Alexander's gonna join

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Speaker 1: us tomorrow. We'll be on from twelve today tomorrow. Also,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being on today. You were great man. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: it to be with you all right. Also today production

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Speaker 1: assistance by George Blast, Jeff Coltenac, Thomas HOLLANDERD Kelly Rude,

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Speaker 1: JJ Territo, Kevin Krgis and James Roebel and of course,

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Speaker 1: as always produced by the indomitable Jay Harris. Wow. Thanks everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you tomorrow here on Buffalo Bills Radio