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Speaker 2: Good morning, Swirl and welcome to the No Dunk's podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, November twenty one, twenty

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Speaker 3: I'm j E.

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Speaker 2: Skeets here in the Classic Factory, joined by the Bearded

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Speaker 2: One Atasha, Hot Boy Track, Kirby hey Hey over Yonder

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Speaker 3: Hi, y'all doing what's up?

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Speaker 2: Esh and our special guest today filling in for tasks.

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Speaker 2: He is the executive podcast producer at the Athletic. He

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Speaker 3: It's Andrew Schlack. What's up? Andrew?

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Speaker 4: I cannot believe I'm in the Classic fact Oh, this

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Speaker 4: is a dream come true for me.

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Speaker 4: Well, I told you guys, I had family here. I

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Speaker 3: To be on the Show's a tournament game tonight.

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Speaker 4: I traveled for the Pacers game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, guys, I'm going down to the Fortress tonight. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: some pacers Hawks actually. Okay, so you have family in Yes.

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Speaker 4: We have family. We're doing Thanksgiving here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: So well, it's worked out perfectly. No test, today's doing

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Speaker 2: his driving test. So hey, why not slip Andrew in.

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Speaker 2: before we get to all that fun stuff I teased,

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Speaker 2: we did have some games on last night. Yeah, a

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Speaker 2: lot of blowouts, if we're being honest, but some entertaining games.

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Speaker 2: And we start with the Hornets winning an overtime thriller,

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Speaker 2: ending the Celtics win streak. LaMelo ball special in this

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Speaker 2: one thirty six points, nine boards, eight assists. But what'd

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Speaker 3: To ultimately beat Celtics.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I honestly wasn't too surprised because the Celtics have

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Speaker 4: been limping at the end of this win streak. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they have not looked great. They've finished the Raptors game

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Speaker 4: and the game against Memphis pretty poorly. Point and so

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Speaker 4: like their attention to detail has been pretty low recently,

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Speaker 4: and so this was going to catch up with them.

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Speaker 4: A stat that I found really interesting before this game

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Speaker 2: So you're saying this season they had yet to miss.

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Speaker 4: They hadn't missed free throw, hadn't missed last night until.

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Speaker 3: Last night, STA no doubt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, welcome to the Classic Factor, Welcome to the Classic

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Speaker 5: Factory moment. Did they mention it on the broadcast that

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Speaker 5: they'd been twenty two for twenty two because that would

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Speaker 5: be like the ultimate announcer Jinks.

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Speaker 2: Possibly because so Drew Holiday missed too.

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Speaker 3: He missed too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah in overtime. Yeah, fascinating. Yeah, I mean I would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, they just call him Mark on the broadcast,

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Speaker 5: He had two offensive rebounds down the stretch in the

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Speaker 5: attention to details exactly right. Andrew seventeen offensive rebounds last night,

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Speaker 5: four of the Hornets. Five of those came in the

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Speaker 3: Lamello was special last night. He had so many clutch plays.

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Speaker 5: He was getting in the lane, he had that layup

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Speaker 5: thirty four, thirty seven, twenty eight and thirty two in

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Speaker 2: But it was a big win in the nut dust Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard about this thing we got going on?

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Speaker 2: You heard about the nut dust Bowl? Please from Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 2: Let's know about the nut dust Bowl. It sounds like

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Speaker 2: something moving. There's some college game. Well, yes, Trey has

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Speaker 2: the Hornets. I have the Wizard's tasks. We have folded

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Speaker 2: into this thing. He has the Pistons. Whoever has the

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Speaker 2: worst record your team has to chug the bottom of

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Speaker 2: like a peanut bag with all the nut dust, all

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was. I was eyeball and some nut dust

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Speaker 3: last night.

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Speaker 5: Rosemary nut dust o tasty, but yeah, exactly a little

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Speaker 2: So big win is my point for you. For the Hornets,

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Speaker 3: And so did my Wizards. I can't di diet.

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Speaker 5: I was into the cup, into the I was looking

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Speaker 5: three of like five best teams in the league last night.

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Speaker 3: Somehow the Hornets were able to steal one. All right,

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Speaker 2: Timberwolves stay atop the West, battling with your Oklahoma City Thunder.

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Speaker 3: There both at ten wins.

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Speaker 2: I believe now Anthony Edwards Towns they sort of shine

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Speaker 2: in this one. Rudy was great one seventeen, one hundred

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Speaker 4: Towns looks great. Yeah, he's he's really turning around. He

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Speaker 4: just don't like carl Anythony Towns, they just don't. But

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Speaker 4: And he played great last night. Six of ten, twenty points,

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Speaker 4: out these wins recently. So yeah, he's been great.

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Speaker 2: Showing off a little bully ball last night too, Karl

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Speaker 2: Anthony Towns, I mean, not really known for that part

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he almost got away with like a.

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Speaker 2: Bit of a push off, but still he was like

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Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert. I like to see that one two action

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Speaker 3: TK? Yeah, it sounds has been great.

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Speaker 5: He's really tough driving to the hole, and I like

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Speaker 5: you're saying, Skis he's been a lot more physical. It

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Speaker 5: Away with some of the push offs because they're like

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I would have to call this win Bisman

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Speaker 5: like for the Minnesota timber Wolves. New York just shot

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Speaker 5: You look at their records, though, Knicks are five and

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Speaker 3: They got to make tough shots really to win.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson takes impossible shots. Julius Randall takes impossible shots.

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Speaker 5: Then you got to hope somebody gets hot from three.

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Speaker 2: Good tweet from Wolves Radio summing up Minnesota's elite defense

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Speaker 2: this year. So they held the Knixt two hundred points,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota has held an opponent under forty percent from the

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Speaker 2: yet to do that to obviously have a game where

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Speaker 2: they've done it now six times And was just another

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Speaker 4: And without McDaniels for most of the game. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he that looked bad. Yeah, it was one of

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Speaker 2: A while, I would think, But but you know, he's Canadian,

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Speaker 2: so I gotta get that for him. They plugged in

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Speaker 2: to kill Alexander Walker. Yeah, he comes in and you

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Speaker 2: McDaniel's like defense. I don't think he's on that level,

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Speaker 4: This past year defended Shagils Alexander really.

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Speaker 2: as it is, You're not gonna get every call, don't

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Speaker 2: So yeah, kudos to you, cat man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean you're you're a seven foot dune man.

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Speaker 2: Next play man, next play mintel.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's seeing Julius Randall across the way and that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy. That's true.

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Speaker 2: They get past the Pistons one o seven to one

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Speaker 2: But this all happened after Yo Kic and coach Mike

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Speaker 2: And so anyway, he's tossed and then yo kich not

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Speaker 3: Or maybe not? Did they cross the line and deserve to.

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Speaker 4: Get It's so hard because we don't know what they said. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: when I heard about these ejections, was in the locker

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Speaker 4: I'm cursing in Serbian, just like man, I wish I

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Speaker 2: Camera, yes, in the locker room. Also, I don't buy

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Speaker 3: His phone like did we score that? Cool? That's why

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what do you think of the ejections there?

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Speaker 5: I think it was completely deserved. I heard what he said,

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Speaker 3: That's the biggest insult in the game. Even the Detroit

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Speaker 5: I shout out to Chris Vernon had uh had the

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Speaker 5: clip of that. But you know, literally, this is Yo

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Speaker 5: Kitches one Achilles heel is. Twice a year he gets

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Speaker 5: super mad at some calls and gets ejected from a game.

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Speaker 5: Happened against the Suns in the playoffs. Randomly, once upon

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Speaker 5: He just gets superheated once or twice a season and

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the second tech call on Yo Kitch was It's

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Speaker 2: I think it's badley, Yeah, and he like he gets bumped,

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Speaker 2: he's like where's the call? Yeah, nothing is called, of course,

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Speaker 3: To step through.

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Speaker 2: He definitely gets hit again, and then that's what really

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Speaker 3: Because it's his second tech, that's why he was tossed.

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Speaker 2: That's why you you know, that's why you want to

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Speaker 2: avoid as much as possible, those those quick early ones

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Speaker 2: got the victory. Is that twelve straight losses for the defense.

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Speaker 2: Kate had a good game at least, yeah, a fairly

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Speaker 2: good game. Good box score didn't shoot all that well.

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Speaker 4: They've won four games since the trade deadline last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah what, yeah, I saw I won two games this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe the Pacers twice after the deadline, and then then.

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Speaker 3: Today was the lynchpin there. I guess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You can frame you can frame it however you want.

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Speaker 4: You can frame it. Since they acquired James Wiseman.

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Speaker 3: They've won four games, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Or since they've traded they've won four games.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, it's not it's not good. They need to

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Speaker 2: make a panic trade for Zach Lavine. Honestly, both teams

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Speaker 2: need a panic trade at this point. Okay, other action,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw all the games at you, guys,

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Speaker 2: if there's anything you want to touch on. Yan has

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Speaker 2: scored forty two points on twenty to twenty three shooting

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Speaker 2: as the Bucks beat Myzards one two twenty nine. Bam

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Speaker 2: scored twenty three points. He cruised past the Trey's bowls

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Speaker 2: one eighteen, one hundred, Ingram and Zion Williamson.

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Speaker 3: They were great.

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Speaker 2: Pells crushed the Kings one twenty nine ninety three. Clippers

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Speaker 3: Four to ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: I told you there was a lot of blowouts, and

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Speaker 2: then Korey and the Warriors took care of the Rockets.

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Speaker 3: They stopped that six game skid. They needed that one.

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Speaker 2: Any of those jump out of any plays from them.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple. Jordan Poole, it was born a wizard. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I know he's made to me.

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Speaker 3: I know what you're gonna say.

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Speaker 4: They're down ten four minutes left. He walks the dog,

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Speaker 4: burning the clock for as long as possible. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 4: what is happening here?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 4: That was awesome. That was a very wizardsy moment.

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Speaker 2: He he did not realize that the game clock, the

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Speaker 3: They had a fresh twenty four when.

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Speaker 2: He picked up, but he definitely did not know that

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Speaker 2: because he's you can see him at the end, he's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it was so beautiful. It was such a

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Speaker 4: good Jordan Pool and then Jimmy Butler yelling skyhook yeah

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Speaker 4: as he's shooting a skyhook. Just I just loved it.

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Speaker 4: I loved everything about I don't like watching the Heat

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Speaker 4: that's just one of my least favorite teams to watch.

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Speaker 4: But when Jimmy Butler's yelling skyhook. I'm waiting.

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Speaker 3: It's very funny.

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Speaker 2: All I thought about was, well, I can't wait for

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Speaker 2: Trey Kirby to be doing this at the next pick up.

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Speaker 3: I know it's coming, I know it's coming. Absolutely very funny.

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll shoot a real skyhook. Oh you didn't think

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Speaker 3: that count?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Running, nobody's running, yelling, running, baby running, just like

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Speaker 5: Magic Johnson, really anybody else.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that was great.

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Speaker 5: Jimmy had an epic flop on Levine on the sideline

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Speaker 5: as well. They lost, you know, the previous game against

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Speaker 5: the Bulls, but didn't seem to have Jimmy carrying too

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Speaker 5: much in this one. That was a he was a

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Speaker 5: hilarious performance from Butler and they got the easy win.

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Speaker 5: Zach Lavine took ten shots in Game one against Miami.

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Speaker 5: Took nine shots in Game two against Miami. Something I'll

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Speaker 3: Those are low totals.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe this is mister Levine pouting a little

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Speaker 5: Grumpy Levine, who knows the heat have long been pretty

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Speaker 5: good at getting the ball at Olvine's hands and making

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Speaker 5: somebody else make a play. But you know, if it

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Speaker 5: I don't want this guy to be the villain. He

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Speaker 5: dealt with like the worst years of the Bulls. Well,

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Speaker 5: I mean the worst year since the previous worst years,

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Speaker 5: which were in the ninety nine ish, but he dealt

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Speaker 5: decent team around him. It lasted for a few months

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Speaker 5: and then it's been tough stuff for Zach Lavine. So

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Speaker 5: I hope he doesn't go full on hardened tank.

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Speaker 2: Mode basically right right right, or even back to like

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Speaker 2: you know, Vince Carter Raptors days, like quitting on the

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Speaker 2: He's what we're getting at here.

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Speaker 5: If he has a wide open fast break and he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or any other games you want to touch

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Speaker 5: It was nice that the Warriors got to win. They've

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Speaker 5: lost six straight, finally beat the Rockets. Shanngoon had a

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Speaker 5: monster game. But I think if you're a Warriors fan,

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Speaker 5: you're most encourages he Clay Thompson twenty points, five threes.

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Speaker 3: They got to get him on.

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Speaker 5: Tracked at some point because Moody has definitely outplayed Klay

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Speaker 5: Thompson so far this season. Clay's got a contract coming

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Speaker 5: up at the end of the year, and obviously he's

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Speaker 5: a Warriors legend, so it'd probably be a lot easier

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Speaker 5: on Golden State and their fans if he's producing and

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Speaker 5: they're not forced into a decision for Klay Thompson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we will get to disappointing players from this season.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be doing a little draft later on in

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Speaker 2: some people's list. On the list, they're in the running.

437
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Speaker 2: But look, you could have helped yourself last night with

438
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,560
Speaker 2: those games. If you had a big games, right, maybe

439
00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,560
Speaker 2: you get your names off the list. So we'll see

440
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Speaker 2: if the helped Klay Thompson avoiding most disappointing players so far.

441
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,679
Speaker 2: But we have you here, Andrew. We talked a lot

442
00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 2: about the Thunder yesterday. You know, they didn't play last night,

443
00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 2: but I said they're at ten wins. They're right there

444
00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 2: with the Nuggets and the Wolves atop sort of the

445
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 2: Western Conference. Minnesota ten and three, Nuggets and Oka see

446
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,639
Speaker 2: ten and four. But yeah, let's get your opinions right

447
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 2: now on your team. I mean, I went on a

448
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 2: show yesterday. I went on the Raptor Show. We talked

449
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 2: a little bit about Shay Gilders Alexander. The guys are saying, like,

450
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 2: where would you have him right now on the MVP list?

451
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I mean.

452
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 2: You know, he finished with some fifth place votes last season. Yeah,

453
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, he's probably right now as

454
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 2: of today. I mean it's very very early, but top

455
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,880
Speaker 2: three something like that, top five at the very least.

456
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 3: Again.

457
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just can't believe this guy's sort of gone

458
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 2: another level.

459
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,439
Speaker 4: It feels like, Yeah, the talk was, is he going

460
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 4: to be able to average close to thirty points a

461
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 4: game because you have Chet, Yeah, you have Jada and

462
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 4: you have Giddy that are all going to score. And

463
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 4: now he's twenty nine points six points per game. And

464
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 4: he had his worst game as a Thunder player season

465
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 4: where he scored seven points.

466
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 3: Right, so hurting the average.

467
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 4: I mean, he would be well over thirty if he

468
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 4: didn't have that game. He's been unbelievable and he hasn't

469
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 4: gotten to the line as much as he did last year.

470
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 4: He shooting ten free throws a game last season, six

471
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 4: this year, and he's just killing in the mid range.

472
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 4: You know, in spite of that, he's just getting guys

473
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 4: on their heels, stop and pop. He's been so good.

474
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 4: He was so good in that overtime He hit the

475
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 4: dumbest shots and the overtime against the Warriors. Yeah, he

476
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 4: he looks great. He's so poised.

477
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 3: He wants to win.

478
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 4: Sam Vassini made this point on his podcast, The Thunder

479
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,439
Speaker 4: just filled with killers. They just have like mentally guys

480
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 4: that just want to rip your heart out, and Shave

481
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,479
Speaker 4: is one of those guys. He's pretty mild mannered off

482
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 4: the court, really easy to talk to. U is very

483
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 4: nice to the officials after the games too.

484
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's nice to Chris Paul's kids. Did you see

485
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 2: that he's going over a couple of rows.

486
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 4: We were on down to dunk Knight the other night

487
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 4: for my podcast, The Thunder Podcast. We were we did

488
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,199
Speaker 4: to Dunknight. We got to shoot half court shots for

489
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 4: courtside seats after the game, okay, part of our event. Okay,

490
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 4: and Shay came out there and he was standing out

491
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,959
Speaker 4: there and I was like, Shay, you want to get

492
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 4: a half court shot in? And he's he's wearing this

493
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 4: really tight leather coat. He's like, I can't I can't

494
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 4: get my he can't get my arms above this, so

495
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 4: I can't over Yeah, yeah.

496
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: But so I just you're right, Like he played so

497
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 2: incredibly well last year. Then he takes that into the

498
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 2: summer with in Canada and what he did for FIBA,

499
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 2: getting them a medal for the first time in forever,

500
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 2: and then he's continuing it here. It's like that's the

501
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: part that is wild. Also, he gets to thirty points

502
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 2: easier than anyone in the league. It's so effortless how

503
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 2: he just like racks up the points. But yeah, it's

504
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 2: cool to hear that.

505
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

506
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Speaker 2: Talk about Chet Holmgren though, and you know what he's

507
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 2: done as a rookie so far, and you know this

508
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: battle between Chet and Wemby and the rookie of the

509
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 2: Year race, and I think you said it the other

510
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,959
Speaker 2: day TK, It's like, I haven't looked at the odds,

511
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 2: but it ain't going to be long I think until

512
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 2: Homegren's maybe the front runner in terms of the odds

513
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Speaker 2: with how he's played.

514
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the biggest thing is that he's a

515
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 4: real shooter. He's shooting forty six percent from three Obviously,

516
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 4: he's not going to do that all season, but the

517
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 4: fact that he can shoot threes on like movement and

518
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 4: he's a guy that you have to pay attention to

519
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 4: and then can defend in the paint. I mean, he

520
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 4: has made a huge impact where the Thunder had basically

521
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 4: no big men last year and now you have this

522
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 4: room deterrent that's there all the time. And then he's

523
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 4: a smart passer. He just understands the game and he's

524
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 4: just gretty Like he's just a guy that really wants

525
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 4: to win and wants to do whatever it takes to win.

526
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 4: He's only taken ten shots a game right now, and

527
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 4: like he has an opportunity to really be on locks

528
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 4: playing withche and they've started to figure that out a

529
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 4: little bit. They're two man game. That's the thing that's

530
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 4: a that's pretty cool if you're a Thunder fan right now,

531
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 4: is like they've played well, but they're not like clicking yet,

532
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 4: right they have. They've had some bad stretches even in

533
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 4: this ten and four run so far. But Chet is

534
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 4: really good. I mean, he's he's emerged as to me,

535
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 4: the clear second best player on this team, and I

536
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 4: think he's going to he has a chance to be

537
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 4: the best around this team.

538
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: And you like a lot of these other players. There's

539
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 2: some du I think is incredible.

540
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 4: Dove is really good, but you're probably right.

541
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Speaker 5: Seventeen a game on fifty forty ninety and being like

542
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 5: a defensive game changer. Yeah, he's definitely the second best player,

543
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 5: and you're right, he's got a chance.

544
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: As the career goes on.

545
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Speaker 5: I do feel like he's online a lot though. He

546
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 5: was tweeting at Victor a wewembin Yama right after there.

547
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm convinced that he's seen the comments about

548
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 5: looking like Abe Lincoln, so now he's growing in as

549
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 5: he's mustache. Yeah, a smart move, but I would worry

550
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 5: a little that he's letting the haters get to him.

551
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 5: But the guy is incredible. Do you think the defense

552
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 5: is going to hold up for the season. They're like

553
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 5: a top five defense right now.

554
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 4: I don't see why not. I mean, they were good

555
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 4: last year and they didn't have anybody at Yeah. I

556
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 4: also think that I'm calling it chet fuel. Whenever Chet

557
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 4: is online or whenever he gets upset about something like

558
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 4: he really like some guys that will derail them, Yes,

559
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 4: for Jet like no like he wants all of it.

560
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: He wants that bulletinial.

561
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.

562
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Speaker 2: Who else has jumped out to you early in the season.

563
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 4: I mean, Jadob is so smooth with the basketball. He's somebody.

564
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he was great in the fourth quarter of

565
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 4: that game against the Warriors where he's getting to his

566
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 4: mid range jumper too. His game looks a little bit

567
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 4: like Shay's did early on, where he can kind of

568
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 4: get to whatever spot he wants. He gets to the rim,

569
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 4: he's catching lobs this year. And defensively he's really good.

570
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 4: He's had to take on a lot of tough assignments.

571
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 4: He had has had to defend like Zion Williamson. He's

572
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 4: had to defend really tough wings. I mean, he he

573
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: takes it all on and he doesn't really care about

574
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: the shot attempts, like he's just kind of along for

575
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: the ride so far, which is good.

576
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Speaker 3: That's good.

577
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 4: But he's he's really good. And then Cason Wallace as

578
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: a rookie has been ridiculous. He's shooting sixty two point

579
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 4: five percent from the field right now, fifty four percent

580
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 4: from three. He hasn't missed a free throw. He's sixty

581
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: two fifty four to one hundred shooting split so far,

582
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: which is absurd. And then defensively he can really hold

583
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 4: out with the dog. Yeah, he's great and Mark Degnal

584
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,959
Speaker 4: loves him. He's played him the most minutes. Next day

585
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: is a joe off the bench. He plays all the time.

586
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: They put him in lots of different positions. I think

587
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: he's the shortest guy on the team, but they put

588
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: him in the dunker spot all the time. I'm working

589
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 4: on I'm work shopping a They call him Keso Caso

590
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: in the dunker spot. I'm working workshopping a T shirt idea.

591
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: There okay with Caso on the dunker spot. But he's

592
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 4: but he's he's awesome. He's somebody that I think thunder

593
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 4: fans have like like we trust him already, Like we

594
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 4: feel like you could throw him in the mix in

595
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 4: any kind of game. And they have started him, Like

596
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 4: Jada missed the game against the Blazers, they started him

597
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 4: in his place. He's been really good, and it's he's

598
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 4: been overshadowed by Chet because like they got these two rookies,

599
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: but he's been awes Is there.

600
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: Any concern this is gonna sound crazy when it comes

601
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: on with but any concern that there's too many good

602
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: players on this team, because you know, Kenrich Williams now back,

603
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: Joe hasn't missed a three pointer, right, I don't think

604
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: I'll see that. Like there is a lot of depth here,

605
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: which on one hand is fantastic, especially when injuries come

606
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: into play. But you know, these guys want minutes, they

607
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: want their opportunity. But how how has that gone so far?

608
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: And do you think it could be an issue at all?

609
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's going to be an issue

610
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 4: at some point where you're gonna have to probably consolidate

611
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 4: at some point when this run. It's not going to

612
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: be this year like they're gonna be They're gonna be

613
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: fine this year, but at some point, like Josh Getty's

614
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: gonna be like, listen, like I can take sixteen shots

615
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 4: a game, right, I could run a team. I can

616
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 4: run a team like I don't need to be twelve

617
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: points five boards a game. He can do a lot

618
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 4: more than that. So at some point that's going to settle,

619
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 4: and that happens to every team. It's like some especially

620
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 4: when you have a lot of good young players. But

621
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 4: for now, if they're trying to figure it out. There's

622
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: no panic, there's no like what what do we need

623
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 4: to do? How do we need to shift this? It's

624
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 4: like stay the course.

625
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: Like the goal is obviously get into the playoffs and

626
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: get some playoff reps.

627
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, like get into series and see what really made up.

628
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: Yes, And that's when you see who the real players are,

629
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 4: cause like these games, like a game is the Blazers,

630
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 4: It's like that's the biggest like whatever game ever, it

631
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 4: just doesn't matter. But when you get to the playoffs,

632
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 4: like Lou Dort was a guy that people were ragging

633
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: on all year last year, Thunder fans were, and then

634
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: you get to the play in like suddenly lud Or

635
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: their best player. Right, So you really find out who

636
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: your team is when once you get to the playoffs.

637
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 4: And I think they want the opportunity to find that out.

638
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 4: Josh Gitty was the best player against the Pelicans in

639
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: the playing game that they won, right, So it's there's

640
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 4: a lot of chatter amongst Thunder fans about Josh Giddy

641
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: and I just say, chill out, chill.

642
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: Out, chill out your slob wizards.

643
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, I think Giddy and Dort for Caruso

644
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 5: and like that that's the training to make you get

645
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 5: that inside presence.

646
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, a rebounder.

647
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: When I when I watched this team, I just think

648
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: we need vouch slow.

649
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: It down a little bit, simple game, land of little

650
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: puts out there? What is there?

651
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: What would be the biggest concern despite this awesome start,

652
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: all these guys playing well, is there one area concern?

653
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: Uh? You know, like they are on fire when it

654
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: comes to shooting.

655
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: At some point it's going to like come a little

656
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: closer to the mean here with some of these guys.

657
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: But is there anything else I'm missing?

658
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

659
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 4: I mean that's a big one because thunder fans are

660
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: like bragging about look at our true shooting percentage. I

661
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: look at him like, guys, watch out, like this is

662
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: gonna last forever, right, And then the rebounding like they're

663
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: just not a good rebounding team. They weren't going to

664
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 4: be and that was going to be a struggle of

665
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 4: theirs because they committed to playing chet with basically four guards. Yea,

666
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 4: and you have to give up something. Yes, their top

667
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: ten in offensive defense. Though when people complain about the rebounding, it's.

668
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: Like, what they're still playing great?

669
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: D're playing great, a great rebounder. You know, you know,

670
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: somebody gets some bounds.

671
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a just a great rebounder. But okrum, yeah

672
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: you want him too.

673
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 5: He's going to the Lakers, baby, Yeah, we're sending everybody out.

674
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: We'll take your eighth man.

675
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter, uh, Giddy, the fit is interesting.

676
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: But also the shirts you made are interesting, the slo shirts.

677
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: How does he feel about being called slob?

678
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: Oh?

679
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: He hates it. I love it absolutely.

680
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did not like it. He wants it to

681
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: go away. We said, no, no, that's too good. Shout

682
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 4: out to John Hollinger. It's great and we are looking

683
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 4: for I hope that you all, all of you guys

684
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: wear your slob wizards. It's at once.

685
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: Sure the show.

686
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: But you're saying it sounds like we're not gonna get

687
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: a great photo of Giddy wearing a slow.

688
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: No, my current goal is to get Jada to wear one.

689
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: That's the move.

690
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. And he's very much online too, if

691
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: you would have it on Instagram. I'm hoping that we

692
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: can get him to wear one. That's that's my current goal, Giddy.

693
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: There's no chance he will even touch a slob research sir.

694
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: And and she's not putting on that.

695
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: Shaye won't do that, although Shaye does have a former

696
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: down to dunk shirt. Maybe it's called maybe he's giving

697
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 4: us a.

698
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: Good will already.

699
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

700
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 5: Respect Yeah, that's a team that gets their fits off

701
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 5: for sure. Do they like to do they like to

702
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: get dressed. You mentioned Thunder right now top ten on

703
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 5: both sides of the basketball last year made the play

704
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: in tournament. You said you want some sort of play

705
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 5: in or some sort of playoff experience this year. What

706
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 5: do you consider like a successful season at the end

707
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 5: of the year. It's quite likely the Thunder finish is

708
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: a top four seed. When you finish the top four,

709
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 5: people kind of expect you to win a round maybe too.

710
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just playing in the first round, Like

711
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: this team just needs that experience. I think they're the

712
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: third youngest team in the NBA, so they still just

713
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: need that experience. Like you can't replace that experience with

714
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: even just talent. It just takes time. And so I

715
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: think even getting one round and if you get punked,

716
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 4: you know, I think that they still feel good and

717
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 4: like then they can we talk about like trades that

718
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: can make and things like that. Then you'll know what

719
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 4: do we need? Is it more experience, is it more time?

720
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Speaker 4: Or are we so bad in one area that we

721
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: were exploited that we need to go address that draft

722
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: or through a trade or whatever.

723
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the fun things you did in the preseason.

724
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure some of the fans out there have seen

725
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: some of these clips. You did preseason interviews with a

726
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: lot of the guys, and one of the bits was how.

727
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: Oklahoma are You?

728
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: You had on the cowboy hat and sometimes the guys

729
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: would also try on the cowboy hat.

730
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: Earn it Jallen Williams.

731
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to earn it because he was having

732
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: so much fun in this interview. But you do seem

733
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: like there's a really cool collection of it despite being

734
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: very young, Like pretty fun guy and go with the flow, guys,

735
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: any any good stories from the how Oklahoma are You?

736
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: A bit?

737
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: They were really good sports about it.

738
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: Jada.

739
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: So I had like a list of players that were

740
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: supposed to come to my station. Jada wasn't on it,

741
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: but I went and grabbed him, was like, Hey, will

742
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: you do this like bit with me? He's like oh yeah,

743
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: Like he came right over. He was all pumped about it,

744
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: just making so I had them look into the camera

745
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: and like, I give give a howard. Shay did terrible

746
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 4: in this. Didn't hardly know any.

747
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: Because it was like trivia.

748
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like very basic Oklahoma trivia. There's people

749
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: like Oklahoma's are like appalled that these guys don't know

750
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: this stuff.

751
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: It's hilarious asking them like what's the or the states?

752
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: States know this is are telfull I catch it? No,

753
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: But they were really good sports. Shay I shaded horrible

754
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 4: and so if they did that, My bit at the

755
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: end was to have them look into the camera and

756
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: say dead gum it, you know. And I told Shay

757
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: to say a dead gum and he was like, no,

758
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: I can't say that, as if it were like something

759
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: really bad. And I was like, well you just say

760
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 4: dead gum and he was like dead gum. And it

761
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: was so funny. Uh chet When he put on the hat,

762
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: you can see it at the end, he puts it

763
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: on the back of his head and then he just

764
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: like looks up really awkwardly into the camera. It is beautiful.

765
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: Who is the best?

766
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: J did really well.

767
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: J Will did good.

768
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: When I asked him, so like one of the one

769
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: of the best places in Oklahoma's called Broms. They make

770
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: great ice cream, they have milk, they make burgers and stuff.

771
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: It's awesome. But I like, I asked them, where's the

772
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 4: best place to get milk and ice cream? And Jay

773
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: Jay Will said he thought about it a second, goes

774
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 4: a cow. I have to I have to award you

775
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: points for saying a cow highly recommend you.

776
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: How Oklahoma?

777
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: Are you anything else you got?

778
00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: T K?

779
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: Well, those hats they were not. They were all borrowed hats.

780
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: I do not. I do not.

781
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: I mean, you can see that it doesn't quite fit me.

782
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: So it was they were all borrowed hats. Shout out

783
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: to a guy, like distant relative of mine. His name

784
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: is Shurrel who I borrowed hats from.

785
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: So that's his first name? Sure, sure, yeah, he's from Oklahoma.

786
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: Sounds like lots of cowboy hats.

787
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, excellent? Anything else? T k uh?

788
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 5: Yeah?

789
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: The Thunder got a million picks? How many in the

790
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: next however many drafts? They have? Eighteen?

791
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 5: What are they going to do with them? Are they

792
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 5: going to trade up like Case and Wallace style where

793
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 5: they package a bunch of middle of the round first

794
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 5: rounders to try and get a guy that they really like.

795
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 5: I guess they did that with Jang last season as well,

796
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: or are they going to hang on to him and

797
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 5: try and draft a whole bunch of guys to keep

798
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 5: the costs down a little bit.

799
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: So we started to see a little bit of what

800
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: they're doing with these picks is that they have these

801
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: maybe middling first round picks and they're trading him to

802
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: the future four picks that are better, and so they're

803
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: going to do more of that. I think Presty kind

804
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: of learned his lesson the last time around, where they

805
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: had a ton of opportunities to make the team better.

806
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: Early on, they kind of use those picks. A lot

807
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: of them didn't come to fruition, and then one when

808
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 4: it came time to win, they didn't have anything to spend.

809
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: They had their own picks to spend. You know, they

810
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: acquired Dion Waiters and his canner, but that's about all

811
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: they could acquire. This time around, they want to wait

812
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 4: until they have the overlapping primes of all these players

813
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 4: and then be able to use those assets for players.

814
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: So now they're going to try to kick the can

815
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 4: down the road when they can. They're probably going to

816
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 4: pick somebody in this upcoming draft. But yeah, I mean

817
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: they want to use these assets differently than almost everybody has.

818
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: I mean, they're really doing something that no team has

819
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 4: ever really given the chance to do. True, because like

820
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: the Sixers tried to do it and then management was changed,

821
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: and once it was changed, it was like, let's give

822
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: a billion picks for Tobias Harris and like call it

823
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 4: a day. The price, he's going to have a chance

824
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: to really do what he wants with this team throughout

825
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 4: the next hopefully like five six years, and then once

826
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 4: they become like the team that they believe they can be,

827
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 4: then you can start to fill in the gaps with

828
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: these first round pick and trade for players and do

829
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 4: what you need to do. But for now, they're going

830
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 4: to sit on them. They're going to make a couple

831
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 4: of picks in the draft next year and probably just

832
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 4: have people talk about them on podcasts for a long time.

833
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: I was going to say, their name is always going

834
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: to come up because you have so much talent that,

835
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: like you said, consolidate some of us, and you have

836
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: so many picks, like so anytime a star player is

837
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: on the market, Oh yeah, Okay, see He's obviously one

838
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: of the names that they can't know, but they can

839
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: trade for just about anybody because you have you have

840
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: the young players, you have all the picks, you have

841
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: some additional salary like Lou Dorid.

842
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: You have Davias Berton's contract, which is going to be

843
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: mentioned a billion times between now and the trade deadline.

844
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 4: Will they do anything with it? Maybe not? You don't

845
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: think so. It sounds like I really don't think so.

846
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: I think that they still have a lot of questions.

847
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: As much as we love this team, there's a lot

848
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: of questions about what this team can be. Ustman Jan

849
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 4: he's playing with the G League right now. They expended

850
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: some assets to get that guy. I mean, they picked

851
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 4: him eleventh. They want to see what he is and

852
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 4: they know that he's going to take some more time.

853
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: So I don't think they're going to trade for somebody

854
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 4: in that spot where they really need him to grow

855
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: a little bit and at least to see like is

856
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 4: he gonna be a player? Maybe not, Maybe he is,

857
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: who knows, but they want to see that play out

858
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: a little bit before they just trade for some guy.

859
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: Good time to be a thunderfan had some good problems

860
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: there Okay, see, we're gonna take a break, but when

861
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: we come back, Andrew is gonna draft, alongside TK and

862
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: I the most disappointing players from the season so far.

863
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna get spicy here. Don't go anywhere, all.

864
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: Right, welcome back to the Classic Factory.

865
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 3: At what is this from? Here? Ashall?

866
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: It's from a cartoon called A Fairly Appearance.

867
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: I've seen this cartoon.

868
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: Every single time I see that picture of Andrew.

869
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: This is exactly what think he's Doug Demodome for sure?

870
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: Is that shirl in the back? That's how I felt

871
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 4: the whole time interviewing them. I felt just like that.

872
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: All right, So we got Andrew here. We are gonna

873
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: be drafting our most disappointing players of the season so far.

874
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: Pretty straightforward, guys. We're gonna do three rounds, so we

875
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: are trying to build the most disappointing three on three team.

876
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know if you're going to really

877
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: take into consideration positions, but have at it our order. Andrew,

878
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: you're our guest, so you'll go number one. TK, you

879
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: get the second spot. I'll go third. Before we pick,

880
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: how do we feel about guys that are like injured.

881
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: It is disappointing that they're injured.

882
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Chris Middleton. Chris Middleton comes to mind, he's

883
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: only playing like twenty minutes a game. He hasn't played

884
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: well for the box, but you know he's got an injury.

885
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: Excuse I say, I stay away from injuries as much

886
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: as I can.

887
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I got two on my draft board.

888
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, So maybe you come in number one pick.

889
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: Most disappointing player so far, according to you.

890
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 4: Is who Trey Young. Okay, Trey Young is making Jordan

891
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: Poole look like an efficiency king right now. It's really bad.

892
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 4: Thirty five point six percent from the field, twenty eight

893
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: percent from three, forty from two this season. It's really bad.

894
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: He has the worst shooting percentage from any player in

895
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: the top fifty in field goal attempts. It's really really bad.

896
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 4: And of the players taking at least one hundred shots

897
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: this season, the only player that is comparable to Trey

898
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: Young is Zion Williams. And I also don't even want

899
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: to talk about Zira Williams because he's just been that

900
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: bad and it's been just crapped on by many many

901
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: a podcast. So I don't want to talk about that,

902
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 4: but Trey has been really bad. The Hawks most used

903
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: lineup Trey Dejonte, DeAndre Hunter, Jalen Johnson Capella is a

904
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 4: minus two, which is kind of bad. And the Hawks

905
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 4: have just been kind of bad this year.

906
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: Six and six Yeah, mediocre classic Hawks.

907
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

908
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Trey Young definitely was on my list. I was

909
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: interested to see where he was going to get drafted.

910
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: Here it's yeah, it's been his point. Hey, the eleven

911
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: assists per game is nice.

912
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: Hill wracks those up.

913
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he still is a point guard and a playmaker,

914
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: but the shooting is just wild. We thought there's no

915
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: way he was bad last year, I know really, and

916
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: we were like, I'll love a bounce back year. I

917
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: mean we talked about it a lot on the podcast

918
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: in the preseason shows, and.

919
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 4: It's got worse and even worse.

920
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Trey Young is gone. GK, you had him

921
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: on the short list there.

922
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: I saw he was definitely on my draft board.

923
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 5: Okay, so he is he is gone. Who do you

924
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 5: have with your first pick? I gotta go Kid Cunningham. Fortunately,

925
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 5: the efficiency was helped last night. I think we had

926
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 5: ten for ten at the free throw line, But I

927
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 5: had Kate at the top of my Disappointing Players draft

928
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 5: because there have already been two articles that came out

929
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 5: about him trying to get to the bottom about why

930
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 5: his per.

931
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: Is so low.

932
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 5: James Edwards over The Athletic took a look at every

933
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 5: single one of his turnovers so far this season. He's

934
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 5: currently leading the league in turnovers. And then Zach Kram

935
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 5: at The Ringer looked at every one of his shots

936
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: this season. So when you've got a lot of people

937
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 5: like dissecting your game to try and figure out how

938
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 5: a guy who averages twenty one per game and seven

939
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: assists can be one of the lowest on all of

940
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 5: your advanced metrics, it's an easy draft for me. And

941
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 5: I don't think that the Piston should be this bad

942
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 5: quite honestly. They've lost twelve straight. The Sunique based stats

943
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 5: are crazy or in thirty five over the course of

944
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 5: like six months or something like that. They've had a

945
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: lot of injuries, their best shooters are out, so I

946
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 5: understand that personnel isn't great around kid, but also he

947
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 5: does not look like he's gonna necessarily be their number

948
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: one guy going forward, and I think that's a disappointment.

949
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: One of the topics on the Raptor Show yesterday was

950
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: redrafting the twenty twenty one draft. Oh with you know,

951
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: obviously Kate going number one, how it would shake out?

952
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: You know, I'm on a Raptor show. So there's a

953
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: lot of talking about Scottie Barnes and it feels like

954
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: him bouncing back this year maybe would have him as

955
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: a number one pick. But then you start going through

956
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of the other names. You're like Sheng Goon

957
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: from Wagner Mobley. Of course, you know, you know Trey

958
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: Murphy the third he's injured right now, But like there's

959
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: a lot of names.

960
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 3: It's like, where does Kate fall right now? Now?

961
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: I think he is put in a horrible position with

962
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: what they're doing with the Pistons really having no shooters

963
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: around this guy is really really hurting him. But he

964
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: has not impressed. And yeah, you shouldn't be losing twelve

965
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: games in a row.

966
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 3: He's their lead guard.

967
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: Some games he fills up the box score, but other

968
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: times the shots not dropping, the turnovers are way too high.

969
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 3: He's not really all locked in defensively. He's a number

970
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: one pick, so they.

971
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 4: Gotta be by Reggie Jackson.

972
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, it's it's weird.

973
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: I just don't like how they're using it. They're thinking

974
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham is like Luca or Harden or like you're like,

975
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: they're putting he shouldn't be playing that way.

976
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: Now.

977
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: Maybe they're forced into that because of their personnel and

978
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: all that. But yeah, he's on the list. He was

979
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: on my list. I don't know if I would have

980
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: taken him number one overall, but I get why Trey

981
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: is Kate Cunningham.

982
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: And who would you have?

983
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: By the way, I know, I'm sort of putting you

984
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: on the spot, like, how would you do the the

985
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one draft, maybe the top top three, top five,

986
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: whatever you want to go.

987
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 4: I think I would go mobily mobile one number one

988
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: still just for the defensive upside his mobility. I mean,

989
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 4: he's he's gonna get better as an offensive player. He's

990
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: a little reluctant still. And then probably Scotty yep, Scotty's

991
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: been unreal this year.

992
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: He has been.

993
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: I surprised me when I was looking at a stats

994
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: like this guy's it's like, you know, it's like he's

995
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: not he's not flirting with a triple double, but some

996
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: things he's there.

997
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: But he's aving over twenty points per game. He's hitting

998
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: the three.

999
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 4: That's that's the biggest thing. Yes, I don't believe it yet.

1000
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, still a really small sample size.

1001
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: If but if he turns out to be a shooter,

1002
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: he will be the number one guy in his guess,

1003
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 4: like by far.

1004
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: I'd agree with that, And then who would be three? Then?

1005
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 5: Kate?

1006
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: Is it? Franz is it.

1007
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 4: Has been awesome? I'm still a kid believer. I still

1008
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: think that if he's put in a better position that

1009
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 4: he will look better, Like if he played for the

1010
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 4: Thunder and he was in like Shay's place, he wouldn't

1011
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 4: be as good as Shay, but he'd be so much

1012
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 4: better than he looks on this piss. I mean, you

1013
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 4: look at him driving to the hoop last night on

1014
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 4: what could be a game winning play and he's met

1015
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: with like three guys. What is he supposed to do?

1016
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: He's going to throw the ball to somebody on the

1017
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 4: perimeter who's just going to clank a three. I mean,

1018
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 4: the options are pretty limited for him, and he's turning

1019
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 4: the ball over really crazy. I don't know he's he's struggled,

1020
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 4: but he's not been put in a great position. So

1021
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: I'd still go.

1022
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: Cad All right, t K, how would you do that? One?

1023
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: Just one, two, three? Uh.

1024
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 5: I probably would go mobily over Barnes at this point,

1025
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 5: and then I'm going schegun third figured.

1026
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was high. I think he was great.

1027
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 5: It's awesome Will had him at a number Yeah.

1028
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I mean this is the giddy draft

1029
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: we're talking about here. This is Kaminga and Moody. I

1030
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: mean there's some talent here. I mean Jillen Suggs is

1031
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: playing really well defensively. Yeah, and a lot of other

1032
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 2: great names in this draft. Even as you go down

1033
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: the list, Jalen big Johnson, uh, coming up, the coming

1034
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: up to the redraft boards. All right, back to drafting

1035
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: the most disappointing players. Though with my number one pick,

1036
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: I'm also going to go with the number one guy.

1037
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go DeAndre Ayton dominate. Yeah, mainly because of

1038
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: he sold us a shitty bill of goods.

1039
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 3: I believed.

1040
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: I thought, a fresh start man, get this guy out

1041
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: of the desert. I think, you know up in Portland

1042
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 2: where they're not going to be even expected to win,

1043
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: but he'll have some big numbers and all that.

1044
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: And he has been horrible.

1045
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:48,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.

1046
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 2: It's brutal when he's giving Portland like, yeah, the rebounds

1047
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: are there, okay, he always does that. Twelve points a

1048
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: game though, And there's a stack going around on Eton

1049
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: right now. That for a big guy. He has like

1050
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: one of the most laughable free throw rates of all time.

1051
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: You know, me free throws he's shot this year nine

1052
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: he's played in thirteen games. Is really he's seven for nine,

1053
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: good free throw percentage, but he never gets there.

1054
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you thought he might be like good stats, bad

1055
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: team guy. He's bad stats, bad team guy.

1056
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, and I and again I feel like a sucker.

1057
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: I sort of thought he would be okay there and

1058
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, at least yeah baby putting up twenty and

1059
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: ten sort of in his sleep. But it's it is

1060
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: wild just how little he gets to the line. And like, okay,

1061
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: keep this in mind. He's there are some guys that

1062
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: don't get to a line a lot as big guys,

1063
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: but they're like three point shooters. You know, maybe they're

1064
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: not operating inside like you know, Al Horford. I guess

1065
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: last year had a really low free throw rate, because

1066
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: that makes a little more sense. Al Horford's out on

1067
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: the three point line. Yeah, he's turned into a shooter

1068
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 2: and all that, but like that's not eating, Like he's six,

1069
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: should be operating, you know, around the pain and does

1070
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: uh just wild? So I'll take him number one. I

1071
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: wanted to get him on my tea because Dominaton he

1072
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: is not He is not at all. So okay, So one, two,

1073
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: three goes Trey Young, it goes Kate Cunningham, it goes

1074
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: de Andre Eyton. Let's do another round. Start of the

1075
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: second round.

1076
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: Who do you have?

1077
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: I said I wouldn't take injuries into account here, but

1078
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: I lied. I am going to take Scoot Henderson a rookie.

1079
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: It was on my list that was listen he's playing.

1080
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 4: It was only played five games, which is disappointing. It's

1081
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 4: part of my disappointment that I haven't seen him enough.

1082
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: But eight points two boards for assists in those five games,

1083
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: shooting thirty four nine nine percent from three eighty five.

1084
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 4: It's dangerously close to what my Slam and Jam co

1085
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: host Alex calls the singler zone, where you're shooting splits

1086
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 4: don't add up to a one hundred, so wow, I

1087
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: would he was billed as some guy that could be

1088
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 4: the number one pick in any other draft. How many

1089
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: times was that said? Oh we were we were mocking

1090
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 4: the hornets. Yes, we're openly going you fool, Yes, you idiots.

1091
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 5: Even picked or when Banyama said it, if I wasn't born,

1092
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 5: he would be the number one pick, yes.

1093
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: And he had just he just hasn't looked like that

1094
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 4: at all. And it's early. I get it, but I'm

1095
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 4: still allowed to be disappointed.

1096
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, yeah I did.

1097
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: I didn't include him because yeah, the rook part and

1098
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: the five games played part. Yeah, but man, you go

1099
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: through the numbers, it's very disappointing.

1100
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: Disappointing. Yeah, getting heard that early is disappointing to h Yes,

1101
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: I agree.

1102
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Scoot Henderson, who do you have Trey for your

1103
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: second pick?

1104
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 3: I gotta take him, but just to put a button

1105
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 3: on it. My other injury guy was Bradley Beal.

1106
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty disappointing how little he's played and that

1107
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 5: he's still out for what another three to five weeks

1108
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 5: or something like that. Who am I going for my

1109
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 5: number two pick? I gotta go with Andrew Wiggins.

1110
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Wiggins over Clay.

1111
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 5: Wiggins over Clay. It was a tough call, but I

1112
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 5: feel like Wiggins. You know, we don't expect Clay to

1113
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 5: be a great defender at this point in his career.

1114
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 5: He's older, and he's gone through the injuries. We saw

1115
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 5: him slowing down last year and clearly that's still the case.

1116
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 5: Whereas Wiggins twelve points a game on a eleven shots

1117
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 5: a game, and he's not really bringing it defensively either.

1118
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: He's down to four rebounds a game.

1119
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 5: I remember him saying after the Warriors won the finals

1120
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,959
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two, and he was like an instrumental player.

1121
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 5: He's like, I'll never average four but rebounds a game again,

1122
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 5: that's what he's averaging. What a weird claim to begin with,

1123
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 5: but also to follow through on it, Like they just

1124
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 5: need Wiggins to be like what he was when he

1125
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 5: came to Golden State. I guess they don't necessarily finals

1126
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 5: Wiggins would be perfect, But I don't know if we're

1127
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 5: getting back there right now.

1128
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: The confidence doesn't seem to be there.

1129
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 5: He had a great game against the Thunder, actually caught

1130
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 5: fire in the fourth quarter, hit fourth reason like five minutes.

1131
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 5: He's made twelve threes on the season, so outside of

1132
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: those five minutes, eight for forty four.

1133
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 3: Not great. So I go, I'm going Wiggins over Clay.

1134
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, you can take either of them.

1135
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: To be quite honest, you're not surprised by Wiggins making

1136
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: t k's list here, I assume.

1137
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: No, he's not been good. And then what they really

1138
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: need him for? You mentioned it like they need him

1139
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: on the boards. Yeah, like they're they're the they're literally

1140
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 4: the shortest team in the NBA.

1141
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: They need to play a lot bigger than he is.

1142
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: They need him.

1143
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: He has before. This is the crazy part.

1144
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 4: I mean, he's part of the reason why they won

1145
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: the finals.

1146
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. He made an All Star team, the All

1147
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: Start team. We were debating it.

1148
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 2: I remember like, hold on, I'm the Canadian and I'm saying, really,

1149
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: Wigian's an All Star and people were like, yeah, look

1150
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: at he's played, Look how the impact he's had on winning,

1151
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: and it was all true. And then we saw him

1152
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: do it obviously in the playoff run, and uh, yeah,

1153
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: he's been he's been bad, and I mean, unfortunately he's

1154
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 2: been so bad. We're like, what's going on with this guy?

1155
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: So is everything?

1156
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: Okay? Is there something off the court?

1157
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: Like the questions people are asking because he's just like

1158
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: sort of lollygag in through games. Okay, Wigan's gone. Man,

1159
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: where do I go with my second pick? I don't

1160
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: want to take Clay It just feels bad to do

1161
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: that to the Sea captain. So I'm gonna take Jordan Poole. Okay, Yeah,

1162
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm pool for my second disappointing player. I mean, I'm

1163
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: laughing because there was some talk like Jordan Poole, he

1164
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: might lead the league in scoring on Washington. We know

1165
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna be bad, gonna suck, but we're like, well,

1166
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: this guy's a bucket though. I mean, he's gonna shoot

1167
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: a ton, he does that, But you gotta score to

1168
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: lead the league in scoring. And he's averaging sixteen point

1169
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: six points per game. You know, he doesn't really do

1170
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: much of anything else. You know, a couple boards, couple assists,

1171
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: shooting under forty percent from the floor, under twenty nine

1172
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: percent from three, and uh, you know, a pr of

1173
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: nine point six as a catch all stat. I'm also convinced,

1174
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe Schumann's in the stream team right now.

1175
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: He must have one of the worst plus minus. Uh

1176
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: you know, totals in the league, like you know, every

1177
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: game have just I know it's because he's on the Wizard,

1178
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: but it's like minus twenty five minus twenty minus eighteen.

1179
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: So he has not he's not lived up to you know,

1180
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: the guy that we thought maybe like, okay, he can

1181
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 2: at least score. They might be bad, but he'll put

1182
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: up some stats. He's just been horrible.

1183
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: He's been horrible but entertaining at the same time.

1184
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's given us that as We just even talked

1185
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: about what he was doing with the Walk of the

1186
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Dog last night.

1187
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a kind of a throwback Wizards moment

1188
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: right now. It feels like I'm kind of enjoyed.

1189
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't think you would be enjoying

1190
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: as much as your Wizards things.

1191
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely not. This is definitely yeah far yes, this

1192
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: is from the stance of somebody who doesn't have any

1193
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 4: care at all and what the Wizards do.

1194
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

1195
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: So, I've got Swaggy Pool. It's one of his nicknames.

1196
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: There apparently a reference. I didn't know that. Okay, so

1197
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 3: we got six guys off the board. I know.

1198
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: This is your last pick, Andrew. You have Trey and

1199
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: you have scoot, where are you going?

1200
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: Julius Randall has not played well.

1201
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: What even in the last even, you know, a couple

1202
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 3: of weeks, he's turned it around.

1203
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: He was so bad though, Yes, to start the season.

1204
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 4: The Knicks have played well and they have a good record,

1205
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 4: but boy, oh boy, he's shooting fifty at the rim

1206
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 4: this season. And he started out just like at the

1207
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: bottom of the barrel. But to still only be a

1208
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: fifty percent at the rim is really rough. Thirty seven overall.

1209
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: I mean, he he has just not shot the ball

1210
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 4: well and he's kind of been loafing around some for

1211
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: the Knicks this year. He has turned it around incredibly

1212
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: just when he is my third pick. But Julius Randall,

1213
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: after coming off an awesome season last year, has been

1214
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 4: pretty bad to start this year.

1215
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we had done this exercise in the first

1216
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: two weeks, Randall's probably going number.

1217
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: One first round pick.

1218
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: I think Siakham would be in the mix. Yeah, you know,

1219
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: there's the whole James Harden of it all. You know,

1220
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: this guy who else Cat actually started really poorly. But

1221
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like some of those guys have

1222
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 2: turned it around, even Randall's you know, getting now to

1223
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 2: your nine for eighteen shooting games and ten for twenty

1224
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: shooting games, and I think he started to find the groove.

1225
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: He had the built in excuse two of his ankle.

1226
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that he talked about.

1227
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: But uh, okay, you're still going ram.

1228
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: So this because it was so bad at this it

1229
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: was really bad yet the year. Okay, Trey, your final

1230
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: pick here in our most disappointing players.

1231
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: I gotta have a ball skates. Oh yeah, I'll tell you.

1232
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: I'm disappointed.

1233
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 5: I've been wanting podcasts to talk about the Bulls for

1234
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 5: three seasons. They wouldn't do it, and now you hear

1235
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 5: about the Bulls on every podcast, but just for trades.

1236
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 5: They are just assets for other teams right now. So

1237
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 5: I considered Levine. He's having a down year by his standards.

1238
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 5: Just twenty one points per game, forty three from the field,

1239
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 5: thirty four from three. That's not great for Zach Levine.

1240
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 5: Obviously we talked about earlier. He's not shooting the ball

1241
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 5: right now and wants to be traded.

1242
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: That's all disappointed.

1243
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 4: That's very disappointing.

1244
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 5: But I'm taking Patrick Williams. Yeah, that's the most disappointing

1245
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 5: guy on the Bulls. It's averaging five point eight points

1246
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 5: per game on six point one shots per game, thirty

1247
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 5: three percent from the field, twenty six from three, and

1248
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 5: he lost his starting job to Tory Craig, who has

1249
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 5: played on every team in the league. Wow, it's it's

1250
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 5: bad stuff, Like I look at the Bulls and the

1251
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 5: Raptors too much. Yeah, because of who we are, you know,

1252
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 5: they're the exact same team. They even both drafted a

1253
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 5: forward from Florida State, number four. The only difference is

1254
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 5: that Scottie Barnes is straight up hoopin and Patrick Williams

1255
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 5: people get excited if he grabs.

1256
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: A rebound in an aggressive manner.

1257
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: Six bar is so low.

1258
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 5: For it's so low, they're like, do anything and we'll

1259
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: be very happy.

1260
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 3: And he is rarely doing things.

1261
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, the six shots is mind blow.

1262
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable how little he wants to shoot the ball.

1263
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, how many more years does this guy going

1264
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 2: to have here in the sort of in the.

1265
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 3: League he's playing over he's young.

1266
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, look, I'm surprised he's on your list just

1267
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 2: because maybe a lot of people are like, it's Patrick Williams,

1268
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: but you as a Bulls fan. I can understand your

1269
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: distaste for what you're seeing from this guy and losing

1270
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: a spot to Tory craig Man.

1271
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: That does help.

1272
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 4: Are you disappointing Kobe White too?

1273
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: No, not really beaten.

1274
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 5: I'm not disappointing Kobe White. I'm like he's been one

1275
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 5: of those bright spots this year. Crusoe, build a statue

1276
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 5: for you. So far Kobe White, It's like, Wow, he's

1277
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 5: He's a bottom ten starter point guard, which I think

1278
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 5: is an improvement.

1279
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 3: All right, final pick comes to me.

1280
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 2: There's you know a lot of names still in the

1281
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: running here, you know, I said, James Harden.

1282
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I almost don't want to pick up Yeah, exactly.

1283
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson, we've talked about do we get two you know, warriors?

1284
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: In this very short draft here, he's been very bad.

1285
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: It's weird. It sucks to see too, because a lot

1286
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: of people like Clay.

1287
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: I love Clay.

1288
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, is it just an age thing.

1289
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: Is it just caught up to him? Is it just

1290
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: one of these streaky things, Like I almost don't want

1291
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: to pick him because as soon as we do, he'll

1292
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: just have these three games where you know, he hit

1293
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: seven eight threes, Like that's what's gonna happen. Yeah, just

1294
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: know what, He's a shooter, man, He's just shoot his

1295
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: way out of it.

1296
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 4: He did the same thing last year.

1297
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Speaker 3: But two of their names I.

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00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: Wanted to throw at you guys that I'm considering one

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00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: Darius Garland. Yeah, now injuries came in to play with him.

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Speaker 2: It was missing some time. I just feel like Darius

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00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: Garland has not been talked about at all this season,

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00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: very little, very very little. He's averaging just under twenty

1303
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 2: points per game, three boards, six assists.

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00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not shooting the.

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00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: Three all that well. Like, again, he's only played eight games,

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00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 2: so we missed some. The Cats as a team in general,

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Speaker 2: I feel like nobody's talking about Like it's been so

1308
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: little talk about Mobley and even Mitchell and Garland. So

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Speaker 2: I had Garland in the mix, but I'm actually gonna

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00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: swerve here and take Kawhi Leonard.

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00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Kawi Leonard has.

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00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: Not been good, true, and it's like not discussed at

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00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: all because he's Kawhi Leonard and obviously all of his

1314
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: accolades and stuff like that he is playing. That's the

1315
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: weirdest part of the whole thing. He's actually playing in

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00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: backback situations, playing most of these games. But he just

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00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: has not wowed me in Clippers' games that I've seen,

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00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: Like really, when I get into like taking over games

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00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: down the stretch, shorts are his shots are short a

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00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: lot of the time. And I don't know, again, he

1321
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: might just turn it on just like that. But we

1322
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: just always talk about Westbrook and now Harden there and

1323
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: Paul George even gets talked about way more. KWI. Leonard

1324
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: has not had a great season. He's disappointing to me.

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Speaker 4: He just gets to ride up into the sunset. He

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00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 4: I know, I think he wants all these all this

1327
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 4: chaos around him, so he just blends in and he

1328
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: just doesn't have to take any of the.

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00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: Heat at all.

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00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're right, he could take on a bigger role.

1331
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: I think that's it. Yeah, and we've seen him do

1332
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: that of course. Yeah, and maybe this is like he's

1333
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: like who cares ten games in type of thing and

1334
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: do it in the playoffs. He's averaging twenty one points

1335
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: per game, five boards, he's shooting great from three. Yeah,

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00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: But overall, again, if you watch Clippers games, I'm not like, Okay,

1337
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: where's the Kawai takeover and it's you're not seeing it

1338
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: a lot this year, so he's kind of going through

1339
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 2: the motions a little, going.

1340
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: Through the motions the way to put it. But he's

1341
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 3: coming off knee surgery, isn't he That's right, Yeah, I

1342
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 3: guess so always always is. Yeah, he always is.

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00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, But Paul George has definitely been their best player

1344
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 5: and most takeover ability so far.

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00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'll take Kawai again sort of just as

1346
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 2: a wild card. There any other names? What about this guy?

1347
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: He's been horrible.

1348
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Josh Giddy has not played well to start

1349
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 4: the season. He's kind of having trouble finding his role

1350
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 4: with the team. I mean, his numbers are down across

1351
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 4: the board, so I mean disappointing.

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00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: Guess yeah, he obviously it's not as bad when your

1353
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: team's ten and four.

1354
00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: One of those things.

1355
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of the things if you're mentioning it,

1356
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 4: like what are you doing?

1357
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: Yep? Any other one else?

1358
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 5: So Han, Jeremy Sohan just because he was like a

1359
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 5: hipster favorite at the end of last season. It kinds

1360
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 5: a playmaking big and now suddenly he's the point guard

1361
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 5: and everybody's like looking at him sideways because we kind

1362
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 5: of realize Victor Webbinyama needs a point guard and there's

1363
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 5: one just sitting there on the bench. But Popovich is saying, no,

1364
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 5: it's experimentation time, when it feels like all of the

1365
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 5: experimentation should be how do we get Victor Webinyama to

1366
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 5: be awesome immediately?

1367
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: And maybe the way you do.

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00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 5: That is by getting another high draft pick, by playing

1369
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 5: a guy out of position for.

1370
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: An entire season. Ye, stealth tank, stealth tank.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good one and one mora I'll throw

1372
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: in here. It hurts because the team is doing quite

1373
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: well at least two expectations. But Fred van Vliet, Yeah,

1374
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: has not played all that well for Houston. But you know, look,

1375
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: he's given them the calming sort of point guard, you know,

1376
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: that veteran there. He's played that part. Him and Brooks

1377
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: have along with Udoka, and they have a good record.

1378
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: He's shooting thirty eight percent from the field, and he's

1379
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: shooting thirty six percent from three, which is, I guess

1380
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: fine for him, but.

1381
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: Not a lot, not a lot.

1382
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: Sixteen and ten though again he's more of the uh

1383
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: he's the rock from Rockford, Illinois, but uh, he just

1384
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: can't shoot.

1385
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a low efficiency guy. Yeah a while.

1386
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: That's sort of this thing. All right, we'll call it there.

1387
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: So Andrew has, Trey Young, Scoot Henderson, Julius Randall, Trey Has,

1388
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham, Andrew Wiggins, Zach not Zack Lavine wrote, I wrote,

1389
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: Zack Lavine, Sorry, Patrick Williams, and I have DeAndre Ayton,

1390
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: Jordan Poole, and Kawhi Leonard.

1391
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: Who do we miss?

1392
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: Let us know in the stream team tweet at us

1393
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: at no dunks, think we got to take one more

1394
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: break and when we come back, a special tweet of

1395
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: the night involving this very man, don't go anywhere. Okay,

1396
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: a few things before we get to tweeted the night.

1397
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: Schumann is in the stream team and he has confirmed

1398
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: that Jordan Poole and Jeremy Sohan have the worst plus minus.

1399
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: In the league this season.

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00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: Wow, so we were right about Jordan, and we included

1401
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: Sohan there as an honorable mention for disappointing players. And

1402
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: the chat really wants to know how to spell this

1403
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: guy in Oklahom, the city who gave you the hats, Shuryl.

1404
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: How do you spell his name?

1405
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 4: Here's here's how we'll do it. Subscribe to down to

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00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 4: Dunk and then I will spell it on the show

1407
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 4: on our next show.

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00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 3: That's great. So you don't really know, I don't really

1409
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: You gotta find out. I'll figure it out. A lot

1410
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: of people think it must.

1411
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: Be short for surely, so maybe it's just a s

1412
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: H I r L. A lot of people think it

1413
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: could be with a you. Somebody said, what about uh,

1414
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: you know e A. There's a lot of ways to

1415
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: spell sure I guess sure is.

1416
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: So who knows?

1417
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: You gotta subscribe to down to Dunk to find out.

1418
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 4: How do you spell Shurrelsy'll tune in?

1419
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 3: I love it. Okay, let's get to tweet to the night.

1420
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 5: Tweet out the night.

1421
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: Wow comes from you. Yeah.

1422
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 5: We were spying on your X profile to do some

1423
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 5: market research and uncovered two gems here. Our first one

1424
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 5: is a quote from Mark Dagnall on Cason Wallace dag

1425
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 5: Nault said he doesn't play with his tuxedo on. He's

1426
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 5: a grimy, gritty player.

1427
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: That's a great, great quarter. That's so good. It is

1428
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,959
Speaker 3: Mark Dagnall cool.

1429
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 4: He is really cool. He so he's like he's thirty eight. Yeah,

1430
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: so he's the oldest thirty girl. To me, it's really cool.

1431
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 4: He's he's the oldest thirty eight year old ever. Like

1432
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 4: he likes old people music, he talks like an old guy,

1433
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 4: like who says he plays with.

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01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: His tux doesn't play with his tux doesn't play with

1435
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: his touch on.

1436
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 4: It was just like, yeah, no, he's great.

1437
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1438
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 5: I just saw I clip with him talking about how

1439
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 5: much he loves the Grateful Dead. So he rose on

1440
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 5: my coaching Stu.

1441
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, slight deadhead.

1442
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Billy Donovan apparently as well as a big thing.

1443
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he's talking about.

1444
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, keep him around, baby. Anyways.

1445
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 5: The big tweet of the night that we wanted to

1446
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 5: see was you followed this up tweet and name an

1447
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 5: NBA player that quote plays with their tuxedo on. So

1448
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 5: who do you guys got? I saw somebody slid into

1449
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 5: your comments right away. Andrew said Boris dil That picture

1450
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 5: of him holding the line.

1451
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 4: A great one. So yeah, who plays with their I

1452
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 4: guess my question is is it an insult to say

1453
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: they play with their tuxedo?

1454
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: A little bit?

1455
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 2: It kind of feels because the flip side is, yeah,

1456
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't play with a tuxedo on. He's he's gritty,

1457
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: he gets at it, he brings his lunch pail on,

1458
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: his hard hat and he gets at it. But yeah,

1459
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: the opposite is a little hoity toity. And you know

1460
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: who doesn't, who doesn't do all the little things? Who

1461
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: doesn't hit the floor?

1462
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1463
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: Who? Maybe?

1464
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: I don't know complaints? Does that sort of go hand

1465
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: in hand with someone in a tuxedo snob?

1466
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: I guess you've never seen somebody. It's a tough thing

1467
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: to answer. It's a weird question.

1468
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: How many good suggestions besides boris I also did all

1469
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: the little things?

1470
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 5: But LaMelo Ball and Trey Young, Yeah, I don't necessarily

1471
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 5: think of those guys as gritty player, and I don't

1472
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 5: think that you can you can still be successful playing

1473
01:01:58,760 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 5: without your tuxedo on.

1474
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, was awesome last night. But I mean I

1475
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 3: don't think he's a hard nosed player. Yeah.

1476
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 4: Jordan Poole was another answer. Sure, Yeah, he barely even

1477
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 4: wanted to touch the ball last night, right right right,

1478
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 4: And I was wearing those white gloves. He wasn't want

1479
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 4: to get a spot on them.

1480
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: Oh French Bulls TV says Zach Levine, playing in a

1481
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: tuxedo right now.

1482
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 3: Yes, he is well dressed, he's looking.

1483
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 5: I thought of a two good ones, like complimentary plays

1484
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 5: with their tuxedo on, like they have a classy a

1485
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 5: classy game, okay, Ray Allen, Yes, and Paw Gasol Okay, yeah,

1486
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 5: I'm like Pow. I feel like would never jump higher

1487
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 5: than he absolutely needed to. He would get the ball

1488
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 5: one centimeter above the rim from dunks.

1489
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 3: David Robinson. That's another complimentary tuxedo.

1490
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: Po was a big fan of the opera too.

1491
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, top and tails, a little monocle.

1492
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, these are all great and I like how

1493
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: you can look at it as a compliment or yeah,

1494
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 2: as a bit of a diss all right, Which players

1495
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: out there play with their tuxedo on?

1496
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: What a line that is? As a great great.

1497
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: Andrew, thank you so much for swinging by the Classic Factory.

1498
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: So you're heading back to the FAM.

1499
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 4: Now heading back to the FAM. Uh, I'm so excited

1500
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 4: to be here with you guys. This has been so

1501
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 4: much fun.

1502
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: Well again, it was perfect timing. Our guy Tassy gone

1503
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: today slid slid right into his seat there, and we'll

1504
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: have Tassy back here tomorrow. Go check out all the

1505
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: podcasts that Andrew does slam and jam on the Athletic

1506
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: NBA Show Down to Dunk. Okay, see dream Team. Uh

1507
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: that one's Patreon only. Patreon only, all right, so you

1508
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: gotta be a real sicko for that, right, thunder fans.

1509
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 2: But you're gonna get more and more Patreon members with

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Speaker 2: the way they're playing. Yeah, it's great business, is good.

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Speaker 3: For Suiryl and Andrew. I assume.

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Speaker 2: Uh so tonight only five is T games on the schedule.

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Speaker 2: One of them is huge though. Indiana could be the

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Speaker 2: first team to clinch a spot in the Corner Finals.

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01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: They are playing here in Atlanta. If the Pacers win,

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01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: they win Group A. If they don't, then it gets

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01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: really spicy because that group would have no unbeaten teams,

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Speaker 2: and any of the four between the Sixers, the Calves,

1519
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 2: the Hawks and the Pacers could win it. I'm going

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Speaker 2: down to the Fortress tonight to see that baby blue court.

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Speaker 2: I would like to pick up some merch if I'm.

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Speaker 5: We always say who buys these City editions of Want

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Speaker 5: City Edition March though, Yeah, yeah, I would like a

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Speaker 5: nice I look better in a baby blue than any

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Speaker 5: of the Hawks.

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Speaker 3: PA.

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Speaker 2: So I'll see if I can get something. But if

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Speaker 2: you see me down to the Fortress tonight say hi

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Speaker 2: for Pacers Hawks. We will be back here tomorrow morning. Now, look,

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Speaker 2: get your tuxedos on it's formal Friday on a Wednesday. Yeah,

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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,959
Speaker 2: because we have no show on Thursday and Friday because

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Speaker 2: of Thanksgiving down here, so we will be suited and

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01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 2: booted tomorrow. Tasks will be back, so join us live

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Speaker 2: at ten am Eastern. Any any final thoughts Andrew before

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Speaker 2: we go.

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Speaker 4: Into I'm just I'm just very thankful on this week

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Speaker 4: of Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we appreciate you coming on now, we thank you

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01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 3: for coming. You killed it. You killed it. Great way

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Speaker 3: to spend your vacation. Man podcasting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how'd that go over? When you were talking to

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Speaker 2: the wife, I was like.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're taking a break from podcasting to go

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01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 4: podcast more across the country. So no, she's she's great.

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01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 4: She's very supportive. She was like, you need to go,

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01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 4: you need to do this, So.

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Speaker 3: She was awesome.

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Speaker 2: It was great to have you here in the Classic

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Speaker 2: Factory and have the happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

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Speaker 3: Everybody will see you tomorrow morning. Until then, Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 3: You heard here first, have a great time, turn up.

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01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us, and remember when you have formal

1554
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 5: Friday in the middle of the week, it's called well

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01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 5: dressed Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Brace the day, people,