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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Guy and Dale Lowley here with Max Starks

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Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson here live at the NFL Scouting Combine

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Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis. And uh, well, back for our final

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Speaker 1: hour here of live coverage of the combine and everything

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Speaker 1: that is going on. And yeah, these first two days

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Speaker 1: have been a little quiet in terms of news news.

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Speaker 2: A lot of rumors and this guy can request trade

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Speaker 2: and this dude might get cut and those type of things.

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Speaker 2: But you don't hear a whole lot about the prospects yet,

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Speaker 2: not yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but some of the stuff with guys

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Speaker 1: moving on. Apparently the Saints have said that they right

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Speaker 1: now they don't have any intention of trading Derek Carr.

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Speaker 2: He's hard to trade. Yeah, I mean, they actually crazy, right.

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Speaker 2: Their cap situation is as bad as I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: It's terrible, It's terrible. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how Mickey Loomis, who's been.

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Speaker 4: There forever and he's been he's been the cap wizard

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Speaker 4: for that because they.

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Speaker 1: He had been until like now, it's like, Mickey, what

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Speaker 1: were you doing with some of these dups?

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Speaker 2: How?

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Speaker 4: How how off on the sauce were you?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: Because now it's like.

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Speaker 3: Every day's party time on in New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, I mean Marty Grass every day. But like

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Speaker 4: you said, who's going to clean up the mess?

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Speaker 2: Right? You know?

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Speaker 4: And now he's having to clean up this mess is

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Speaker 4: here and they've they're in cap hell. There's no other

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Speaker 4: way of putting it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you.

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Speaker 4: Struggling, No, I mean they've got it. How much do

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Speaker 4: they have to cut to get they're not compliant? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're not compliant.

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Speaker 3: And the next ten days, yeah, you got.

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Speaker 4: To cut forty minutes. So I'm looking at Cam Jordan

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Speaker 4: probably is a guy that's probably a CAP casualty.

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Speaker 2: The thing is that it doesn't They've they've structured these

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Speaker 2: contracts that it doesn't even get you the relief you

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Speaker 2: would think because they've pushed. I mean they've really maxed

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Speaker 2: out the credit cards, like you're right. I mean Jordan

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Speaker 2: and Tomorrio Davis in the Honey badgerroom. These are older

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Speaker 2: dudes that make money. But the cap relief just cutting

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Speaker 2: them out, right, But pre June one isn't that great now?

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Speaker 4: I think you only save like what those three guys,

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Speaker 4: I think you said like maybe seventeen eighteen million.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at the.

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Speaker 1: Other day, they need to cut forty seven million just

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Speaker 1: to get cap, just to get the zero.

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Speaker 2: So I heard this the other day. I mean, like

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Speaker 2: Michael Thomas is is eating a four point seven percent

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Speaker 2: of their cap. He hasn't been good for five years,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. They played football something like that, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, and this is Jordan's gonna be up.

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Speaker 2: And I mean for years and years. These guys are

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Speaker 2: gonna be on the book.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're gonna They're gonna feel the ghosts of

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Speaker 4: these players for years to come. And it was like

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Speaker 4: you extended, you extended your kicked cann down the rope kicks.

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Speaker 2: They went for it. Yeah, and they do have a

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Speaker 2: ring to show for it. I mean it was years

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Speaker 2: ago long, right, that.

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Speaker 4: Was I mean Hurricane Contree, right after Hurricane Contree.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers have won more more recently, I think.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, I mean the way they've handled the

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Speaker 2: last five years, it's just irresponsible, honestly, it really is.

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Speaker 4: I mean just even from the Dennis Allen pick and

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Speaker 4: Sean Payton just kind of giving it to him leaving

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Speaker 4: and then coming back.

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Speaker 2: Just keep doing the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just keep paying I mean, and we talk

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Speaker 4: about what's the definition of insanity, right right, doing the

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Speaker 4: same thing over and over expecting a different result. And

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Speaker 4: that's what they've done.

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Speaker 1: And this is something where you know, you see a

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Speaker 1: lot of Steelers just they're they're trying to do the

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Speaker 1: same things over and over again, overlooking the fact.

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Speaker 3: In the last four or five years, we've seen him.

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Speaker 1: Trade a first round draft pick for a player, which

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Speaker 1: they hadn't done since the sixties, trading up twice in that.

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Speaker 3: Time period to get a player.

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Speaker 1: Now, you can you can argue who the player was

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Speaker 1: that they traded at the get, but the act, the

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Speaker 1: act of moving up to go get a player last

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Speaker 1: time they did was right. Yeah, they fired an offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator in the middle of a season. They hadn't never

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Speaker 1: done that, never, that was a precedent. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: new GM. They've two GMS in that period. They've let's

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Speaker 1: see what else.

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Speaker 2: They have definitely been more active in free agency. They've been.

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Speaker 4: Years, they've they've flipped this roster better in both of

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Speaker 4: the years that Omarca has been the GM. We've seen

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Speaker 4: we saw fifty three new players last year and we

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Speaker 4: saw forty five the year before that. So that's not doing.

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Speaker 2: That's not right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not being the Saints here and just kicking

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Speaker 1: the can down earth. That's not being the Browns and

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Speaker 1: kicking the can down the road. No, that's trying to

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Speaker 1: get to do something different than what you had been doing.

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Speaker 4: And you had the cheapest quarterback room with two new quarters,

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Speaker 4: with a brand new quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Room and a new offensive court.

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Speaker 4: New OC and complete overhaul like that's something like these

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Speaker 4: are different things. You might think it's the same result

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Speaker 4: because you look at the record and it looks very similar,

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Speaker 4: but what's going on behind the curtain is completely different.

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Speaker 4: Like the hamster on the wheel, they're changing out the

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Speaker 4: hamsters running on the wheel.

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Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, the thing that isn't the same is sevens

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Speaker 2: not back there. Yeah, there's been a lot of quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: in the last couple of years too, and we've gotten

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs with five different quarterbacks, which is bonkers, right,

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Speaker 2: that's ridiculous, right, I mean we're not even talking about

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Speaker 2: Duck and I mean, like going back, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of dudes taking snaps here since Seven's you know, elbow injury.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I mean so.

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Speaker 2: If you could firm that up. Well, then just keep

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Speaker 2: doing the same thing in that position exactly, because you're

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Speaker 2: seeing success and we're not falling back to the beginning

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Speaker 2: of time.

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Speaker 4: We're not going back to the Stone Age like a

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Speaker 4: lot of these teams have to do. You know, a

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Speaker 4: year in a year like, hey, since the day they

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Speaker 4: got Joe Burrow. But do you know how bad you

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Speaker 4: had to be in the league right year? Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 4: what he said to Chase Young right on the commander's

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Speaker 4: rookie year. I don't ever want to be bad enough

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Speaker 4: that I can draft you.

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Speaker 1: Not only did they have to be bad enough to

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Speaker 1: bad enough the next year to get your March.

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Speaker 4: Chase exactly, yeah, exactly exactly. He was fifth, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: So it was like and then you think about if

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Speaker 4: you're the Carolina Panthers, right aniche.

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Speaker 2: Not over there?

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Speaker 4: Okay, apparently I called it like really us. I was like, yeah, hey,

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Speaker 4: you got Bryce yeh, you drafted first like two years

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Speaker 4: in a row, and then you traded away one of them.

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Speaker 2: But you know, to be there to be Jacksonville Regamy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like I don't want to be that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, sorry, that's not the standard that this organization

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Speaker 4: has created. And you do you all the standards and

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Speaker 4: standards not the same. But we've been in the playoffs

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Speaker 4: right right, I mean, you.

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Speaker 2: Win more games than you lose.

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Speaker 1: We win more than five and twelve, yeah, been six

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Speaker 1: and we've never been below five hundred in you once

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Speaker 1: in the twenty first century.

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Speaker 4: Okay, guys, you know twenty five years one below five

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Speaker 4: hundred season and they got you Ben Roethlisberg and then

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Speaker 4: you have you haven't turned back since.

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Speaker 2: And you think our listeners are unhappy about how the

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Speaker 2: playoffs have gone, sure, how thrilled do you think they'd

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Speaker 2: be in Thanksgiving next year? If you have one win?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Two wins exactly? Oh we

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Speaker 2: lost by twenty again, great, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, you know, and the stadium is still gonna get filled,

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Speaker 4: right because you're putting a competitive product out there, and

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Speaker 4: sometimes you don't win on the competition. We've had the

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Speaker 4: toughest schedule in the NFL the last two years as well.

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Speaker 4: You know, you have to think about that like we're

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Speaker 4: not getting the New You know, we got the New

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Speaker 4: get the Eagles, the Ravens and the Chiefs in eleven

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Speaker 4: day span and the process because people want to see

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Speaker 4: us on primetime, so that kills you. I would love

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Speaker 4: to have been in the Ravens situation where I got

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Speaker 4: the Giants on the front end and some other five

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Speaker 4: hundred team is a third game, Yeah, but you're talking

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Speaker 4: at that point, and you're trying that. You're trying to

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Speaker 4: make a run. That's tough to do and it's not

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Speaker 4: haven't done since. The year I left was a year

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Speaker 4: we went over to England and then we had Thanksgiving

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Speaker 4: Day like that, two things I didn't get accomplished.

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Speaker 1: Right, let's talk about so when they went to London,

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Speaker 1: when we went to London and pull the curtain back,

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Speaker 1: I was on the team flight at that time. Even

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Speaker 1: though I didn't work for the team, they.

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Speaker 5: Still a lot of a lot of the it would

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Speaker 5: have been nice to a lot of the media travel Yeah,

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Speaker 5: a lot of the media traveled at that time with

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Speaker 5: the team, and it was a big flight that trip,

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Speaker 3: I can tell you for a fact, I was still

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Speaker 3: tired on Sunday. Yes, let alone you guys having.

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Speaker 4: To play a football go aroun Yeah, play a football

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Speaker 4: game different, completely vastly different time zone because you're moving ahead. Normally,

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Speaker 4: when we play in the East Coast, you don't move

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Speaker 4: any further forward.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You always game time back because we only because we

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Speaker 4: play west, and so now you're moving further east that

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Speaker 4: time your body is not adjusted and to go over

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Speaker 4: as late now hopefully I'm hoping this this year coming up,

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Speaker 4: they decided.

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Speaker 2: To go over earlier.

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Speaker 3: That was my point, Like, yeah, that you need to

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Speaker 3: because you got.

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Speaker 2: To acclimate for that.

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Speaker 4: Like that's it's a shock to the system to play

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Speaker 4: cross continental. You want to cross then entire ocean and

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Speaker 4: three other time zones.

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Speaker 2: To play with am on your body clock or yeah,

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Speaker 2: exactly what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Let's face it, you know, regular season eight o'clock, I'm

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Speaker 4: just walking to meetings. I'm getting my second cup of coffee.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not asked to move at that time and

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Speaker 4: move effectively and competitively. So I mean there's an adjustment

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Speaker 4: that that's needed. And so I mean the Steelers, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sit there and try and tell them

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Speaker 4: what to do. I mean, they have all the analysts

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Speaker 4: The Steelers played on five of the seven available days

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Speaker 4: Everybody else played six out of the seven days of

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Speaker 3: Not getting back road game.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting back the game until Monday at some point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it has to be a home game. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: So that's gonna be the problem. It's it's probably going

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Speaker 1: And we are live from the NFL Scouting Combine here

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: to stepped away for a moment. He will be right back.

441
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Speaker 1: And we are live here from the NFL Scouting Combine

442
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,000
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis where tomorrow everything will start to take place.

443
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,800
Speaker 1: On the field in terms of workouts things of that nature.

444
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,439
Speaker 1: They'll continue to do some meetings and things of that

445
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:51,159
Speaker 1: nature tonight. Yeah, and well, meetings take place that involve

446
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:57,119
Speaker 1: current players as well. News today the Giants met with

447
00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:03,000
Speaker 1: the representatives for Matthew Stafford here in Indianapolis. There's also

448
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 1: a report that Matthew Stafford met with Tom Brady in Montana. Yeah,

449
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:15,360
Speaker 1: heard recently. Yeah, the Raiders. Oh, Big Sky Country. That's

450
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,600
Speaker 1: a that's a strange one to me, Like, how about this,

451
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,639
Speaker 1: how about well, go meet in I can't even think

452
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 1: of a town in Montana, Yeah, Jo's yeah, right.

453
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 4: You would think I've been up there that I would

454
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 4: know those towns, But I mean, driving up there, it

455
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 4: all looks the same.

456
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an odd one. But they both have

457
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 2: a lot of money. It's a cool place, you know.

458
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they probably wuldn't hung out at Kevin

459
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,199
Speaker 4: Costner's ranch or something. Jackson Hole is not that far

460
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,120
Speaker 4: of a drive from there.

461
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Stafford could get moved. I'm starting to

462
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 2: believe that more and more. I don't think this is

463
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,120
Speaker 2: just deployed by the Rams. I mean now I tend

464
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 2: to think he won't end up here. But I'm sure

465
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 2: the Steelers at least have kicked.

466
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Speaker 3: Yesterday.

467
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Speaker 1: Like all options are on the table and till you

468
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,439
Speaker 1: have to stay on a contract. I mean, I'd be very

469
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 1: intrigued by it.

470
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 2: But if you're the Raiders are giants, though you're not

471
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford away from being a contender. I mean, I

472
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: don't quite understand that. If you're Matthew Stafford, is that

473
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 2: where you want to go? You've been on bad teams before, you.

474
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, your Lioneers, your Lion's career.

475
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 2: But or is it.

476
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 4: I've accomplished everything I've done. I've won the Super Bowl,

477
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 4: I've gotten to the mountain top, I've had successful runs

478
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 4: with the team. Maybe this is my ride off in

479
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 4: the Sunday that collect a lot of cash and then

480
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 4: just be okay.

481
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Speaker 3: And send me somewhere where the city is not on fire.

482
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 4: Yes, that's true. Yeah, I do not want to play

483
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 4: my home playoff game in a different city.

484
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

485
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 4: And let's face it, Las Vegas is a fun place.

486
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 2: It is just a fun place.

487
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 4: People like New York too, and they love NYC. I mean,

488
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 4: go get you a slice, you know, and go catch

489
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 4: a Broadway show whatever. So I mean, both of those

490
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 4: cities are attractive living cities, you.

491
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,239
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. I know his wife is very

492
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: active in social media too, and maybe that's part of it.

493
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure is a factor, you know, yeah, exactly. I

494
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 2: mean maybe you can turn into one of themes around.

495
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it and both of.

496
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Speaker 4: Those are missing a franchise name exactly. Somebody put in

497
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 4: the billboard insert name here, and you know your name

498
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 4: is on on Fifth Avenue right in New York. You're

499
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 4: you're on the strip in Vegas holding a foot. There's

500
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 4: a lot of money out there on the tables if

501
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 4: you're a decent dude that they and we know he

502
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 4: does endorsements. He's doing the Sleep number with his wife,

503
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 4: you know, on TV. So he's probably like, hey, let

504
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 4: me just get some endorsement, gains some visibility, let my

505
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 4: wife do some stuff, and we can make this work.

506
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 4: And heck, I don't mind having to be able to

507
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 4: call Tom Brady whenever I want, if I'm there or

508
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 4: if I'm in New York. I can get to anything

509
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 4: I need to, you know, because I am I'm the

510
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 4: attraction and I have the resume to back it up. Now,

511
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 4: if he was leaving Detroit, different story right just to

512
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 4: should it could have would us? You know, question mark

513
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 4: question mark, question mark about the team and losses to

514
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers in overtime on on untimed downs. But he's

515
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 4: changed that image about himself, so you wonder if that's

516
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 4: a possibility.

517
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: The Raiders also have a ton of cap space. I

518
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: mean if he ain't.

519
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 4: Paying nobody except for Christian Wilkins and Max Cross.

520
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: Crosby, So if he gets traded to the Raiders, maybe

521
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: he can start recruiting people too, I mean, get guys

522
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: to come with them. I don't know. I'm just trying

523
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: to think of the thought process of the two teams.

524
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean I think for Vegas they

525
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 4: just need something they need They need a name, and

526
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 4: they don't have any name.

527
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 2: Like you said, maybe the other kid in Vegas is like,

528
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 2: they don't make fans from their hometown.

529
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 4: No, everybody from out of town. Granted, the Raiders fans

530
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 4: do travel from Oakland every week, so technically they're traveling.

531
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 4: But the apathy, like if I don't see anything exciting

532
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 4: on the field, why.

533
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 2: Do I want to drive?

534
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons why they traded for a B.

535
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: When they traded for a B because they were moving

536
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: into Vegas, like we need an attraction. Yeah, got while

537
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: they went out and got then got Davonte Adams. We

538
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: need a guy, and they got and went for Chandler

539
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: Jones as well. It just didn't you know what I'm saying.

540
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: So they've tried, but they've just had bad tries. Like

541
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: a lot of that's Mayock, right, you know that was

542
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: there as GM. But it's like, Okay, now we have

543
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in the building. He's in the year of

544
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: Mark Davis.

545
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 4: Right, you can kind of curb some of the Al

546
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 4: Davis tendencies around and try and make them a formidable

547
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 4: team with a little lesson you get to build on it.

548
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 4: But you need a name to build around, and I

549
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 4: think that is it's smart that the Raiders are going

550
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 4: after that, right and right professional, I mean, right yeah.

551
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean since Brady's been there, he's got Pete Carroll

552
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: who might end up in the Hall of Fame, and

553
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 2: Ohio State's court Chip Kelly, who's now the highest paid

554
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: coordinator in the league. I don't know if he's the

555
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: best one in the league, but he was highly sought

556
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 2: after if you had to pay him that much and

557
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 2: he left Stafford to that, I mean you've got to

558
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: coach coordinator, quarterback. I mean like that's a start, and

559
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: that's a good swing, and after building a culture and yeah,

560
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: we're talking about culture here all the time. I at

561
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: least build a culture.

562
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, max Is is someone who

563
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: was broadcasting. Is it fair that Brady is allowed to

564
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: own part of a team and also still continue to broadcast?

565
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 4: I this is I don't think he's allowed to go

566
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 4: to practices though. You can't go to practices, you can't

567
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: watch you know, film. He can only do this time

568
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: of year stuff. But the percentage that he owns versus

569
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 4: what he's making contractually, why make one decision or the other?

570
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Obviously you're not hurting from money, so.

571
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: You know, by all counts, sol Mark Davis has given

572
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: Brady a lot of leeway, even though he's not a

573
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: majority owner.

574
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has a lot of He has a lot

575
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: of controls name to the to the franchise. I don't

576
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 4: like it. It feels a little icky because he's not

577
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 4: a lot of that practice. He's a lot of everybody

578
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 4: else's practices and you don't think that, Hey, the Raiders

579
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: play the Dolphins in two weeks and you're covering the

580
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 4: Dolphins the week before and you're at practice, right, I'm

581
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 4: just saying what I saw this. This is a pretty

582
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 4: football mind exactly. And you see it, and he can recite.

583
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 4: He's not down there taking polly pocket notebook, you know notes.

584
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 4: He's gonna be able to say, bo, well, hey, this

585
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 4: is one of the things they struggle with, you know,

586
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 4: when you're going up against philis. Hey, this is what

587
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: you do to get him out of it. Thet calls

588
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 4: Peter calls Matt Stafford, right, if he's hanging out with

589
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 4: him in Montana and he ends up as your QB.

590
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Y'all got a friend corner their their right cornerback just

591
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: doesn't see this.

592
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: Throw digs all day on that dude, yeah, or anything.

593
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 4: They would never think they would never get a spy,

594
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: can you know?

595
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: But I mean it is sticky though.

596
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 4: It is very sticky. And I'm surprised the league hasn't

597
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 4: said anything, right because you're afforded proprietary knowledge as a broadcaster,

598
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: and I know even from my perspective, Yeah, radio guy,

599
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 4: and I've done television. If I get to inter I

600
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 4: get to interview guys before the game, right, I get

601
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: to talk to these guys. I get to see see

602
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 4: how their minds think and make judgments. And also coaches

603
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: trusted me as well. Like I mean, like I talk

604
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 4: about a kid about Lane Kiffin, but Lane, because we

605
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: were friends when I was doing broadcast coverage, He's he

606
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 4: sent me his metrics book up in the booth and

607
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 4: I could read, so I knew exactly what he was

608
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: gonna do on fourth down coverages or whatever it was.

609
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: Going to be.

610
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 4: I knew I could new because it helped me in

611
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: my broadcast, you know, to be able to predict and

612
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 4: kind of feel these things out. I'm like, if you're

613
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 4: giving and imagine what you're giving Tom Brady, I'm just

614
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 4: I'm just me. Yeah, right, But you're giving a guy

615
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 4: everybody looks up to and they're gonna give him whatever

616
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 4: he asks, and he's gonna he knows what questions to

617
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 4: ask because he's been in that position. So that's where

618
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's sticky. Now. Granted, the Raiders do suck

619
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: right now, but if they start to build, how much

620
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: longer can you allow and to tow the line between

621
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: broadcaster behind the scenes guy, as well as having a

622
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: very active role within a franchise in sport that you're

623
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 4: also calling.

624
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

625
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: He may not be able to go to the practice, Yeah,

626
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: but everybody else on his broadcast team does.

627
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: And you don't think they.

628
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: Talk about stuff.

629
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: Oh sure, absolutely, I mean that's just it's just human nature.

630
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: Like, hey, on the broadcast tomorrow, they're probably gonna run

631
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: such and such, you know, or here's what they said

632
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: they were gonna do in this situation.

633
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

634
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 4: And while you know, and and Tom and I talked

635
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: before because they had the Philly game. Tom and I

636
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 4: talked because Aaron's one of my good you know, one

637
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 4: of my classmates from college, Aaron Andrews. So we're sitting there,

638
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 4: it was my first time meeting him, Burkhard and all

639
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: those guys, and we said that we had a conversation.

640
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: We're just talking about what we want to see and

641
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 4: everything else. He's a super sharp dude. So you know,

642
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: it's gonna it's gonna come up as a question, It's

643
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: gonna come up as an integrity time.

644
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

645
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 4: I get Fox gave you a boatload of money and

646
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: they offer this contract was outstanding, you know, until you

647
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: decided to retire, But one or the other once you

648
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 4: entered the realm of ownership, you know, like John Stalworth

649
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 4: wasn't calling games after he got a percentage ownership of

650
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: the Steelers, and no other owner that I know, you

651
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: know that was a former player or anything else that

652
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: bought into They weren't doing active right. This is the

653
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 4: first time this has ever been done.

654
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: They weren't other people's facilities or every single week, whoever

655
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: you're calling in the week seventeen, does he mentioned the guy, Hey,

656
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: we might trade for Matthew Stafford. Do you want to

657
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: be a Raider? Yeah? Who knows? Right?

658
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's interviewing with Matt. He knows Matt very well.

659
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: Hen's why they have a relationship and why they're hanging

660
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: out in Montana. It's almost like he's friends like everybody else.

661
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 4: You're allowed to have friends, but it's you have to

662
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 4: be on one side or the other.

663
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like insider trading because yes, you know, again,

664
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: what if they hadn't given Stafford.

665
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: The okay to go talk to another team?

666
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: He's an owner, Yeah he is, let's face it, Yeah,

667
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 4: that that that is more than legal tampering.

668
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And it's not March tenth.

669
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: We're talking about this, right, We're talking about this at

670
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 4: February twenty fifth, twenty.

671
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: It should be like if you if you took all

672
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: your millions of dollars that Yeah Stark's had and said,

673
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna buy partial ownership into Steelers, but

674
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna continue to do this. I'm gonna I'm

675
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: gonna continue to do Westwood One and that kind of stuff. Yeah,

676
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, it creates problems, It creates issues. It makes

677
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: it sticky, especially when you're the color analyst. Like it's

678
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: like I'm a sideline guy for the Steelers, but everywhere

679
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: else in this world when I work, I'm a color analyst.

680
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: So and like I said, when I've seen these other games,

681
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: like I get to go down on the field pregame,

682
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: I get to go talk to these guys and interview them,

683
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: and you're talking to the head coach ocs and so

684
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: you're getting an.

685
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: Intimate knowledge about them. And when I know, especially if

686
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 4: I'm calling games in the AFC, I've got the Raiders

687
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 4: back here, Like you know, if I was a Steelers

688
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: guys like and I and I got like, you know

689
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: I have for a couple of years, like Cleveland Cincinnati game.

690
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 4: Why is it you don't think I'm not talking about

691
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: what I saw in the Cleveland Cincinnati game before we

692
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 4: played them. We play, we played Green Bay. I told

693
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: you I had that Green Bay LA game right before

694
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: they played the Steelers. I'm referencing last week stuff in

695
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: my broadcast this we and when I'm talking to Wolf

696
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 4: and those guys like, hey, this is what I saw

697
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: last week. Man, we got to watch out for it.

698
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: Hopefully it happens.

699
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: Same thing is going to go on.

700
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: And like you said, having an ownership stake in that

701
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 4: you have a vestigator of your success is tied to

702
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: how well they're successful.

703
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna make money off of how successful your team is.

704
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: Exactly. He's like the most competitive human being on the planet.

705
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: He didn't do anything exactly exactly.

706
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: You know, he's you know, he's proving to your next

707
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah let's say right, yeah, so so yeah, so they're

708
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: gonna have he's gonna be forced to make a decision

709
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 4: because just integrity of the game and optics just aren't great.

710
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: With that.

711
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: I bet he picked ownership.

712
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely right, yeah, right, It's like, yeah, do I

713
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: do I do I want to do I want thee

714
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: hundred times multiplier? Do I want the ten thousand times

715
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 4: multiplier coaches and pick up quarterbacks? Or do I want

716
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: to travel around? I want to prove that I can

717
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: do it at from this level as well as what

718
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: I did actually on the field. Like that competitive edge

719
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: kicks it. There's no competition in broadcasting, right, You're already

720
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: on the eight cre you're on.

721
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: The top crew.

722
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: You got put in at the top level.

723
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you got you inserted immediately to number one,

724
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: and you called your first super Bowl your first year broadcasting.

725
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

726
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen for everybody else.

727
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: No, Now, I mean it's a long road to get

728
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: to that place, and you just got inserted because let's

729
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: face it, you've got the brain and you have the

730
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: resume that goes with it. So yeah, I mean, yeah,

731
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: it'll be a matter of time.

732
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an odd situation, it really is. Let's get

733
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: to another break here before we come back to close

734
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: out the show. That is Max Starks.

735
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm here with Matt Williamson as well, and I'm Dale Lolly.

736
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: We are live at the NFL Scouting Combine here in Indianapolis.

737
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: They're playing the Senior Bowl game over there on the

738
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: there we go TV a little bit of preview of

739
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: what we're going to see here.

740
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: That's I guess that's on the NFL network.

741
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: It is.

742
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: But let's get to a break. We will be back

743
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: with more right after this.

744
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: Our back.

745
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: I am Jale Lolly here with Max Starks and Matt

746
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: Williamson at the NFL Scouting Combine here in Indianapolis. The

747
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium just on the other side of the

748
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: stad A short tunnel walk from here, just go down

749
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: underneath the street.

750
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: It's really a cool setup.

751
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: I mean, this city is made for combine conventions, Yeah,

752
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: and conventions. I mean this is a great I mean

753
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: even when they had the Super Bowl here, like, the

754
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: movement around town was very easy.

755
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: I changed so we changed hotels this year from where

756
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: we usually stay.

757
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I went down for they have breakfast at

758
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: our at our hotel and I went down to breakfast

759
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: and I saw them like where I was sitting at

760
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: in the breakfast area.

761
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, that looks like it's a tunnel over to

762
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: the two. Uh you know they have the tunnels, yeah,

763
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: the mall or.

764
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm gonna check that out and see

765
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: if there is an entrance into the walkways, and behold

766
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: there was. You like, never have to go outside here,

767
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: you don't we I mean you really would not have

768
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: to leave get wet it was raining today.

769
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: Would wouldn't have had to go outdoors at all. There's

770
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: been some chili combines or some really windy ones.

771
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and like you said, and we've stayed elsewhere,

772
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: but it's like the longest walk long, it's long, it's

773
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: a minute.

774
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that happen again. You never have to go outdoors,

775
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: to go outdoors, but it's like I know, the lock

776
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: like the back of my hand, like in here. And

777
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: then there's a carpet that looked like the kid in

778
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: the shinings on.

779
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: And exactly yeah play Danny.

780
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

781
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: But but Embassy Sweez is right there, right right.

782
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: It's so close. I mean, yeah, yeah, we could go anywhere.

783
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: I'd be heartbroken if they move it from Indy. I'm

784
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: happy that we at least have next year. Yeah, set

785
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: in Stone, but they keeps being these rumblings and I

786
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: don't want to get on a plane. I mean either

787
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: they're is perfect. Yeah. If I don't, we parked the

788
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: car and we never move it again.

789
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: Here's why I don't think that they're going to change it,

790
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: because logistically.

791
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: It's put it for a reason.

792
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: It's put here for a reason. A. You're in the

793
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: middle of the country.

794
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: Yes, but I think there's like fifteen or eighteen teams

795
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: that can drive it, right.

796
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: But more importantly is the medical stuff. Yeah, yes, you

797
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: don't have to go far to get to they can

798
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: handle it. All they want to move to l A.

799
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: You can't get within a thousand yards of that stadium

800
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: for anything.

801
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 4: Everything's Vegas.

802
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: Vegas is the same Waygas the same way.

803
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: There's nothing attached to allegiant around it because it's across

804
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: the freaking freeway was built.

805
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: It was built out into the desert. They're expanding outwards

806
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: now exactly. They could build a new hospital right next

807
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: to the stadium, but they haven't done so yet.

808
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: They haven't done so, and you still have all of

809
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 4: the casinos own those lots.

810
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: Like just imagine that ridiculous situation with all these young men.

811
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that guys would go out and

812
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: be tempted, but the temptation would be there.

813
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: It's tough if the lobby there's a full on casino

814
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: nightclub shows right there, because what hotel you're gonna put

815
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: them at. Fact, if you put them all the way

816
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: out at Red Rock, where are you gonna now, where

817
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: you're gonna get in? They gotta bust them into the city.

818
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: Curtain on this.

819
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: So for NFL teams, you're not allowed to stay in

820
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: a hotel with it has gambling.

821
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: In the lobby, Like when we go to when we

822
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: go to the NFL event, I assume it's the same thing. Well,

823
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: we go to.

824
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: Vegas, we stay in a hotel off the strip that

825
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: does not have any gambling in.

826
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And it's like it's few and far between that.

827
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: Supposed to say finding that, Yeah, it's not convenient, Yeah exactly.

828
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 4: Or you're putting the guys like the Courtyard Marriot across

829
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: the street from the stadium, right, How are you gonna

830
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 4: have three hundred and twenty nine guys in a courtyard Marriott, right?

831
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 4: And that's and it's a more exposed hotel. You can't

832
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: you can't warden it off or anything. So that's the

833
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: other thing I mean because I did three Raiders games

834
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 4: this year, right, you know our game, of course we

835
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 4: stay there, but then when I did the two is

836
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 4: even trying to find a hotel? Like you're competing with

837
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 4: other events as well all the time. Like, think about

838
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 4: this time of year. You know, people getting ready for

839
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 4: March madness, right, so you have an influx of people

840
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: that are planning on coming out there. Now you throw

841
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: the combine right before it or around it, it becomes

842
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: a logistical nightmare for those other location I've heard, like

843
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: Dallas just put in for it. There's nothing in Frisco.

844
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: It's kind of the same thing.

845
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, there's nothing there att stadium, Like they built

846
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: the city around the stadium, you know what I'm saying.

847
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 4: And so to get to a hospital system, you got

848
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: to drive twenty thirty minutes. And then who's the one

849
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: that's gonna be able to stop what they're doing and

850
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: dedicate this Like this hospital system was built.

851
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: It's an all day event because they know.

852
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 4: What March is and we can have three hundred and

853
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 4: twenty guys in and we can move them. They have

854
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 4: the like I said, the lines are permanently in the ground. Yeah, yay,

855
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: you follow your track and you stop at each room

856
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: along the way. So they have a system in place,

857
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: and I get it. Hey, you wanted to move the

858
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 4: Draft from New York because you want it, you want

859
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: and that's been a success, that's been great. Yeah, the

860
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: Draft is completely different than this combine. That's where it's

861
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 4: metrics time at the at.

862
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: The end of the day, it's still an event to

863
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: judge for to judge the performance of players and to

864
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: get the medical information.

865
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 3: It's not a made for TV event. No, they've turned

866
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: it into that.

867
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: They've converted a lot of things, but it's retro fit.

868
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: But it wouldn't be any different at Las Stadium or

869
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the coverage would look the same on NFL network.

870
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: They're still running forties or doing verticals. I mean, it's

871
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: not like you'd be that much better. And what's cool

872
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: about this city is you mentioned how you're competing. Well,

873
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 2: there's a lot of conventions here, but this convention center

874
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: is like a mile long. You don't even know that

875
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: huge truck one comes in right after us. I'm sure

876
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: there's convention right after that. I mean, the combay is

877
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: probably not even there, like biggest event, but they can

878
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: handle it. Like nothing.

879
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, And also to go back to Vegas, right, Mandalai

880
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: Baconvinci Center is the closest convention center to it, and

881
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: it's still detached and it's connected around three casino hotels.

882
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: And so now to get those guys in, Like, there's

883
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: no other place where a convention center is literally right

884
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: next to the stadium.

885
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: Is there any like that?

886
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: There's none, There's none. And Vegas, like you said, it's

887
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: across a freaking freeway. There's no tunnel that goes from

888
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: from Mandalay Bacon Center to Allegiant Stadium that we know

889
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: that we know, Yeah.

890
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: That is Vegas. Someone might be digging one of Yeah.

891
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 4: But then and they got that, they had to retrofit

892
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: for the f one, you know what I'm saying, Like

893
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: and all the stuff that they broke up to make

894
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 4: that happen. So it doesn't make sense. And like you said,

895
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: so far, being an Engle would like the hospital system

896
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: the closest ones USC and that's still like a twenty

897
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 4: minute and that could be an hour depending on traffic

898
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 4: trying in La God forbid, you have the on the

899
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: four oh five, you know for that one. And then

900
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 4: like you said, Dallas everything's so spread out. Frisk goes

901
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 4: in it, FRIST goes out even Dallas, you know what

902
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying, in between Fort Worth and Yeah, yeah, you're

903
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 4: you're in a You're in a no man's land. So

904
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: it's like to find a hospital system that can afford

905
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 4: that and have the time and space. And like you said,

906
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: that's a lot more and now you run the risk.

907
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: And here's liability, just basic insurance right liability shires. The

908
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: more I gotta move guys in cars versus them walking

909
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: because they walk everywhere, sure, the more risk you have

910
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 4: for accidents, delays, you know, and it messes up. We

911
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: talk about the MRI machine messing things up. Imagine a

912
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 4: freeway getting shut down from a three lane accident. Yeah,

913
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: it's just a nightmare. This is the only one where

914
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: it's truly walkable of all of the cities that we've

915
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: been at. Like, you couldn't do it in Pittsburgh, No, right,

916
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 4: I could do it any open air stadiums. Cut those out. Minnesota,

917
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 4: it's downtown. But I don't know, I don't know what hospital,

918
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: I don't know where the nearest hospital is. I don't

919
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: know where the convention center is. You know what I'm

920
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: saying so, and I think they want it in a

921
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 4: bigger town than that if they move it.

922
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: Ye.

923
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: When I was in Minneapolis for the Super Bowl a

924
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: few years ago, the team hotels and all the media

925
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: stuff was at the Mall of America. Yeah see, I know,

926
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: I went downtown one night, you know, for media for

927
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: the opening night. Media stuff and everything else was out

928
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: at at the team hotels. We just went to the

929
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: Mall of America and you went. The Eagles were on

930
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: one end and the Patriots were on the other.

931
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: And I think that's what it was.

932
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: But well, yeah, not mention. I mean, like you went

933
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: through this, But I mean it's such a stressful time

934
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: for the players here. They would had it even more.

935
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: You're at him, you know, and then then they got

936
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: to perform in the last day after hardly sleeping or

937
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: not knowing their roommate or being dragged.

938
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: A hour hour bus rides back and forth.

939
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 4: Make it a little easier on the player, make it right,

940
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 4: I mean, And this is about as easy as gonna

941
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: get because you walk everywhere, you meet downstairs, you have

942
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 4: your breakfast, and then you walk in line, you know,

943
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 4: to little ducklings, and the only time you really have

944
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 4: to move somewhere.

945
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: It's to the hospital. Yeah, and that's not that far.

946
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 4: It's less than a five minute drive.

947
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: And then anywhere else would be harder.

948
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: Anywhere else is tremendously harder. And now you're involving multiple

949
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 4: car rides and shuttling of guys for error, and yeah,

950
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 4: we have three hundred and twenty nine.

951
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 2: You got to move.

952
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just saying that that large of large men.

953
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 4: You know that that's not easy. And like I said,

954
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: it's easy to just walk these guys down the hallway.

955
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 4: You know, they're right down there. Yeah, and I'm saying there,

956
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 4: I forget where a couple of things down that one

957
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: camera down down yonder. Just walk and then all the

958
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: meetings are here, like NFLPA is right across from us.

959
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 4: You know, the NFL team meeting is there where you

960
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: meet with Troy, and you move in the stadium, like

961
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 4: I said, short little walk underneath and you're right there

962
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: in the stadium where they do a lot of the

963
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: height weight measurement stuff that's not done at the hospital,

964
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 4: that's done there. And then you move to the field

965
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: for field work. It's within a what a seven block

966
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: circumference maybe yeah.

967
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't even think about putting the liability

968
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: and putting people in cars and accents and things like that.

969
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm kind of making light of it.

970
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: But what if it's like, well, there's twenty five offensive

971
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: linemen that aren't in this draft anymore because they got

972
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: in a car wreck or something terrible, Like.

973
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, geez, you know which can happen, because I mean

974
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: think about Super Bowl when we were down in Dallas,

975
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 4: like the first day after that snow, it was ridiculous.

976
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 4: I mean, as we almost tipped over in our bus

977
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: and after that, I was like, I'm driving, I'm not

978
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: taking this team bus anymore. Like it is ridiculous. And

979
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 4: now you're putting players out on the road with you know,

980
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: with cars because you don't trust that. And God forbid,

981
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 4: let's just face it, a freak snowstorm could happen in

982
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: Dallas this time of year. It just snowed a couple

983
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 4: of days ago. But yeah, you know what I'm saying.

984
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: So I'm like, yeah, yeah, you can't handle that. But

985
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: and now everything's outside exposed, this is all in tire.

986
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: Like you said, if the snow, if snow shuts down,

987
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: this doesn't shut down. We can still do everything here.

988
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: We're still gonna be in here. You know, we'll be

989
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: walking and we'll be having running noses the whole week,

990
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: but we'll be on air, you know what I'm saying,

991
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: and we're we're we're able to walk indoors. So yeah,

992
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: it just makes no sense to move it the first spot.

993
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's it's an interesting event with all

994
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: the players. We'll get to see the players on the

995
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: field tomorrow, we'll get to see start to see some

996
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: of these workouts and and uh, you know, we'll start

997
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: to get some of the measurements coming in on these guys,

998
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: and uh, that's gonna be a big part of this

999
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: for you know, for example, for a guy like Will Campbell. Yeah,

1000
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle out of offense, I'm gonna say it's

1001
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman out of LSU.

1002
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: A lineman at l s U. Him Emery Jones as well. Yeah,

1003
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 4: like this is gonna matter for them because they have

1004
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 4: to prove those type of those type of things. And

1005
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: I think, you know, we go to all positions everybody had.

1006
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 4: There's a number of guys, like we talked about the

1007
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 4: injuries to the quarterback position, if you're healthy enough to play.

1008
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 4: This is a chance to get a step up on

1009
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: your competition and put your first foot forward and give

1010
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 4: a great introduction if you can, because you can beat

1011
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 4: the field out if you can perform out here.

1012
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. I mean there's so many measurements and

1013
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: things like with Campbell, I mean, is he have thirty

1014
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: three inch arms.

1015
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: Or are we a little short thirty two and five aces?

1016
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know if you have a strong opinion,

1017
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: but I know some teams thirty three is fine. Some

1018
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: of them won thirty four. Yeah.

1019
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 4: I mean it's a preference on what's your offense, what

1020
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 4: you're asked to do of the offense as much, how

1021
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 4: much reach bucket. Yeah, because if I'm putting you on

1022
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,959
Speaker 4: the outside edge by yourself a lot, I'm giving you chips.

1023
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: I don't go in a lot too tight end sets

1024
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: and you're on the blind side. I need longer on

1025
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: I need length, Yeah, I need length because that distance,

1026
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 4: those extra two inches difference between you said and the

1027
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: edge of seven and him coming across, you know, sitting

1028
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: the edge of seven and then making him run the

1029
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: hump to nine, or if you're cutting it off at

1030
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 4: five and a half. Now he's at seven. That's the

1031
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: quarterback drop. You know, I'm putting it right in his lap.

1032
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 4: That length will matter just for carrying.

1033
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: People thinking why would an inch arm length matter with that?

1034
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: It does?

1035
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 4: It does and over space, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1036
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: that's the thing you have to think. I mean, now

1037
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: we're to get into the mathematics of it, right, but

1038
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: those trajectory angles change based off of if a guy's

1039
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: an inch further out, and also if you have that

1040
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 4: if I'm a guy that doesn't like contact, now moved

1041
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: out another six inches, that matters.

1042
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: Oh a ton, that matters, ton.

1043
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: I mean you're talking about it. Difference between an inch

1044
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: is a sack and a pressure, you know.

1045
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. Like, even on the other side of

1046
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: the ball, I was listening to a really good analysis

1047
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: of Mason Graham today that they were breaking down his

1048
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: tape and I guess Pro Football Focus has him missing

1049
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: like only three or four tackles. But they were talking

1050
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: about because of his short arms, he didn't even get

1051
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: his his arm on the guy. You know that the

1052
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: back goes right by him where Chris Jones would have at.

1053
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: Least it doesn't that doesn't necessarily count as a mission.

1054
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 2: He didn't touch it, right, yeah, I mean just because

1055
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: he is he's stumpy kind of arms like stopped talking

1056
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: about it.

1057
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 3: Well, you know, he doesn't make any errors.

1058
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: Have it gets to way more balls, Yeah, he might

1059
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: make some more errors, but he's got way better range.

1060
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 4: Why we talked DeAndre Hopkins a catch radius, right, I

1061
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: mean we wouldn't be arguing about this, like if you

1062
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: have a huge catch radius as a receiver, like that's

1063
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 4: where Arlin comes in. A fifty to fifty ball becomes

1064
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 4: a seventy to thirty ball easily because if you yeah,

1065
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 4: his arm length and his vertical matters, you know, and

1066
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 4: so the same thing matters for Lineman. I mean guards,

1067
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: I don't really care you're in a funk booth, center

1068
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 4: as long as scene, Yeah, you have twenty nine right,

1069
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 4: you're not coming out with t Rex, you know what

1070
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Scott Paxson. You know, I love what his

1071
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 4: nickname was, t Rex, But center, you it's negligible for

1072
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 4: the snap hand and the offhand, it doesn't really matter,

1073
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: but tackles.

1074
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: Offside it does matter. And certainly edge rushers as well.

1075
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: I mean one arm arm stab is a lot longer, Yeah,

1076
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 2: a lot longer.

1077
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Well, guys, that's gonna do it for our coverage today.

1078
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 1: We will be back again tomorrow, same schedule, nine to five,

1079
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: same group coming back. We got Wes Jueler, you got

1080
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: Rob King, We've got Max Starks, we got Matt Williams

1081
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: and myself Dale Lolly.

1082
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 4: Of course we also have Jerry Dulac on. We're want

1083
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: to thank CJ.

1084
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: Beck and Studio for keeping us on the air this

1085
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: entire time.

1086
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: We want to thank Minheer for making sure our video

1087
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: gets out there. Check that out on YouTube. But uh, well,

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