1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Here we go, We are live. It's The Herd on 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: a Tuesday. The Herd Hierarchy. One hour from now, Patriots 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: head coach Mike Crable stops by. Welcome in wherever you 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: may be, however you may be listening, appreciate you make 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: an US part of your day. So in the NFL, 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: I think we all know this. The more ways you 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: can win, the better. Seattle's winning when Sam Darnold doesn't 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: play well, the Niners one when Max Jones was starting. 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: The Bears can win with their run game and not 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Philadel Field won a game this weekend where 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: they didn't complete a pass in the second half. A 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: lot of different ways for the Seahawks and the Niners 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: and the Bears. The Eagles maybe more than any team 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: can win, but with the Rams it's different. If Matt 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: Stafford plays poorly, they lose. In the eleven wins this 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: year for the Rams, he has thirty touchdowns and two picks. 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: In the Rams five losses, he has twelve touchdowns and 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: six picks. And people call Sam Darnold reckless, but when 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Donald struggles, he still gives you elite mobility and playmaking. 27 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Stafford now took over the all time lead in pick sixes. 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Like it's just not good if he's struggling. Yesterday, at 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: the end of the show, I called it the McVeigh magic. 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes when you watch the Rams, are they great? Or 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: is McVeigh just magical? Brandon Staley was mcveigh's brilliant defensive 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: coordinator until he left the building. Zach Taylor ten games 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: under five hundred and Cincinnati he was the next McVeigh. 34 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: I hear that defensive coordinator Chris Shula is going to 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: be a head coach. But I just watched bees On 36 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: Robinson have his best game as a pro nine yards 37 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: of carry and they didn't do a lot to adjust 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: at halftime. Is he really a great defensive coordinator? I mean, 39 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: the bottom line here, if not for an amazing play 40 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: in special teams by Jared verse. How close is that game? 41 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: And here's what's troublesome beyond being very dependent on Stafford, 42 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: is in the last three weeks the Rams defense second 43 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: worst in the league and the yards allowed per play. 44 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm not denying versus great and Stafford's unbelievably talented and 45 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: nobody can defend Puka, but it is interesting when you 46 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: have mcveah and Kyle Shanahan in the same division. I 47 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday because with both McVeigh and Shanahan, 48 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: it's like they're illusionists. Is brought pretty really a superstar? 49 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: Last guy picked in the draft? He plays like it 50 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: is Juwan Jennings really that great, as like a six 51 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: or seventh round player. He plays like it is. The 52 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: Rams offensive line really that good. Got bullied last night 53 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: a few times. I mean, they couldn't block the edges. 54 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: Or is it just again the McVeigh magic, because what 55 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: is absolutely clear with LA there's absolute deficiencies and they're 56 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: getting exposed the O line. All it takes is one injury. 57 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: They struggle to protect the defense last three weeks regressing, 58 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Stafford gets reckless without Devonte Adams. They absolutely struggle in 59 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: the red zone. So and then losing to Atlanta really 60 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: hurts because they have Atlanta's first round pick. A couple 61 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, that thing was like the eighth pick. 62 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: Well now that's dropped down to twelfth. So beating Atlanta 63 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: for no other reason to secure a top ten pick 64 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: was important. And they were completely worked out, schemed out, 65 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: coached outplayed out everything in the first half, and in 66 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the second they still didn't do a great job adjusting. 67 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: So in San Francisco, you know, it's like every quarterback 68 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: with Kyle Shanahan looks so much better than potentially they 69 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: are until they leave the building. And with mcveigh's staff, 70 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm almost told how brilliant it is, and I 71 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: watch all these guys leave the building and they're not 72 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: as brilliant. So McVeigh, totally dejected, keeps it really kurt 73 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: and succinct when he loses, says, these starters will play 74 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: next week Week eighteen. 75 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: Oh we're playing, Yeah, they're playing. No, they were gonna 76 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: play anyways, we need to play. We need to play 77 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: better football. So I you know, I don't know what 78 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: the consequences are and those different types of things, but. 79 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: We gotta play better. So Week eighteen isn't great. Saturday 80 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: Seahawks Niners fantastic, And then we've got the Ravens at 81 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and the winner goes to the playoffs. And a 82 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: lot of the talk in this game is the future 83 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: of John Harbaugh, the Ravens head coach. Feels like every 84 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: five or six years he gets heat. And Mike Tomlin, 85 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: the coach of the Steelers. I'm reading a column this 86 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: morning whoever loses the coach could be in trouble. But 87 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: I don't feel the same way. Two years ago, John 88 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: Harball was in the AFC Championship. The Ravens don't feel 89 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: tone deaf for out of touch to offense. The Steelers do. 90 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh's big problem is he can't beat Mahomes and 91 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: Andy Reid in the playoffs. Mike Tomlin's issue is he 92 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: can't beat anybody in the playoffs. Seven straight seasons bottom 93 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: ten offense. In that same period, harbaugh an offensive league 94 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: is out of top ten offense four times. So when 95 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: I look at the Ravens as a hole in Harbaugh, 96 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: I just see a roadblock, almost like Phil Mickelson can't 97 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: beat Tiger in the Big Ones, right, or the Blazers 98 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: or a Gary Payton or the Knicks just couldn't get 99 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: through Jordan. Like, let's be honest. John Harbaugh's biggest issue 100 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: is they couldn't beat Mahomes. Lamar couldn't beat Mahomes. He 101 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: was struggling to beat Andy Reid. But they're making AFC 102 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: championships recently, They've won a Super Bowl more recently. I 103 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: don't feel like the ecosystem with Baltimore is outdated. In Pittsburgh, 104 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: I do. Once again, they can't run the football. What's 105 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 1: that seven straight years? I mean, go ask yourself, when's 106 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: the last time a Mike Tomlin team beat an elite 107 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: Franchiants quarterback in the playoffs? Go ahead and look, I 108 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: went this morning. Mike Tomlin since two thousand and nine, 109 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Owens six against Peyton Manning, Mahomes, Rogers, Brady Lamar, Jackson 110 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: and Josh Allens. So I don't feel like Tomlin, and 111 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: I'd hire him in a second if I was the 112 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins or Tennessee Titans. It's not that he can't coach. 113 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Same with Sean McDermott. I'd hire Sean McDermott in a 114 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: second in Tennessee or a second in Miami but when 115 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I hear that, well Harbaugh and Tomlin, I don't feel 116 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: the same with those two. I mean, all you have 117 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: to know is the Steelers have the second oldest roster 118 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL and spend the most money on defense. 119 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: That's the influence of Tomlin, who's still an elite motivator. 120 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: The Ravens, they spend their money mostly on offense. I mean, 121 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: they'll pay for Kyle Hamilton, great safety, they should. They'll 122 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: pay for a great guy in the defensive line. They should. 123 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: But I don't feel the same. Here's Harbaugh when he's 124 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: asked about he and Mike Tomlin's future. 125 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: Really don't have. 126 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 5: The space for that. You know. 127 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: It's just not something that you have the ability to 128 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: think about. It's not important. It was important you had 129 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: an impact and a bearing, you know. Then I think 130 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: you think about it, but you think about because it's 131 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 4: always that way, you know. So it's probably all that 132 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: stuff makes it all kind of interesting and kind of 133 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: fun and real. It's sports, you know, That's how sports are, 134 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: and I think that's part of the intrigue of it all. 135 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: So I feel like really honored to be a part 136 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: of that. 137 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: My wife talked about this all the time. As you age, 138 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: she says, everybody gets older. Just try to stay current. 139 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: The Steelers don't necessarily. We all have the money they 140 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: spend on defense, the age of the roster, the quarterback mass. 141 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: They can't run the ball for seven years in an 142 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: offensive league. The Steelers don't feel current to me. Baltimore does. 143 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: I like their ownership, the front office, their head coach, 144 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: their quarterback. They can even win hunting the backup quarterback 145 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: is good. They get efficient play when Lamar doesn't play. 146 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: But so it doesn't feel all the same to me. 147 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: I can like a coach Sean McDermott and think it 148 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: may be time if they lose in Round one, and 149 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: I can like a coach. I think Tom Loan would 150 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: be a great TV guy. He probably doesn't. He showed 151 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: no interest in that. He doesn't want to do college. 152 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: But I just I feel like we're at the end 153 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: of the line here. I do like Baltimore to win 154 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: the game because it's a rivalry. It will be low 155 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: scoring and close. But you know my feeling, it's twenty three, 156 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seventeen. I would lean with what I believe 157 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: is the more current organization, the more offensively friendly organization. 158 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: I would take the Ravens to win that game. J 159 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: Meck had a good week, a good week of let's 160 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: just say with the numbers this week. You know, it's 161 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: interesting we have Mike Rabel on today that the stafford 162 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: probably played his way out of the MVP last night. 163 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's a standalone game, fair not those things 164 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: always have major influence. But the biggest game yesterday, you 165 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: could argue on Mondays use me or so Sunday was 166 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Eagles, and Josh Allen couldn't score, 167 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: didn't have a point until six minutes left. So to me, 168 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: that opened the door for Drake may as MVP. 169 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 6: Well let me ask. 170 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 7: I mean, you watch that game, Jets getting throttled by 171 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 7: the Patriots. There's a video clip of Mike Rabel on 172 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 7: the sideline up thirty five to three, essentially saying, yeah, 173 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 7: we're gonna blitz and a bad word blank them. You know, 174 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 7: if Rabels was really going all in on the Jets, 175 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 7: I almost wonder maybe you got the point. 176 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 6: Maybe he was trying to get Drake made the MVP award. 177 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 178 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 6: They were pouring it on Colin in the second half. 179 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Rabel's a guy that worries about 180 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: any other coaches feelings or any other organization. 181 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 7: Was not forgotten among Jets fans. Let's just say that 182 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 7: like it'll matter in a few years. 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He's 199 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: very accurate, he's durable, he's tough, he's an excellent leader. 200 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: He gets the ball out quickly. It's hard to embrace 201 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: that stuff. It doesn't feel as great. And a lot 202 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: of people have said, well, they've got an easy schedule, 203 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: you play the games in front of you. Shocker. The 204 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: Jets in Miami weren't good. Again, that's not his fault. 205 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: Brady led that division for years, Buffalo, the Jets in Miami, 206 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: all three were bad. At least Buffalo's viable now so 207 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: and in the eight quarters they played the Bills New 208 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: England and may were better than six of them. So 209 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: I just it's a lot of times when you're doing 210 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: like the NBA has always been about, to a large degree, style. 211 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Westbrook is he a winning player, but he's 212 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, right like, it's style matters, But 213 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: it does in the NFL too. We like sacks from 214 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: our guys up front. We like our quarterbacks. For years 215 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: and years, when Brady was in New England, I mean 216 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: to the end, I was reading articles and you could 217 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: tell people in the building. Anonymous sources were saying, Hey, 218 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: a lot of guys could win here, a lot quarterbacks 219 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: could win here. 220 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 221 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: Could a lot of those guys go to Tampa and 222 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl first year? Could a lot of 223 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: those guys do that. 224 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 7: No. 225 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Brady did so, and Tom was on this show and 226 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, one of the elements where where 227 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: he and he and Drake may may be similar. 228 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 8: With Drake, he has the physical ability, he has the size, 229 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 8: but I think in terms of physical skill set, his 230 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 8: downfield passing ability is awesome. So you know, Josh McDaniels 231 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 8: has done incredible job this year for the Patriots. Drake 232 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 8: is running the same system that I was in. I 233 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 8: know how good that system is for quarterbacks. How Josh 234 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 8: does teach these young quarterbacks all the different reasons why 235 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 8: he's doing what he's doing, why we're trying to beat 236 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 8: this coverage, or how we're gonna protect to give you 237 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 8: the best chance to be successful. 238 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: Drake has foxboroughed from Tom. He's got twelve games, one 239 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: hundred plus passer rating this year. That ties Tom Brady 240 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: and I also think a lot of times, if you're 241 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: a really good coordinator, you go to be a head 242 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: coach and it doesn't work where we think less of you. 243 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels has been the best coordinator. He's a OC 244 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: now for the Patriots. There's a argument he's been the 245 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: best coordinator fifteen in the last twenty years in the NFL, 246 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: maybe maybe eighteen of twenty and so you know, the 247 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: Patriots to me feel like same owner, same oc, same 248 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: stylistic quarterback. The difference is Vrabel is more player friendly 249 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:26,239 Speaker 1: than Belichick, but like Bill, super smart, culture builder, very demanding, 250 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: doesn't pander. The difference is he's more player friendly, which 251 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: you have to be in twenty twenty five and beyond. 252 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: But I know completion percentage doesn't turn people on. But 253 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: when you can lead the league in that and yards 254 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: per tempt down field, that is special. Thirty five to 255 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: three lead on the road just does not happen a lot. 256 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Think how good the Rams are. They were getting crushed 257 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: on the road last night against the team that won't 258 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: make the playoffs and a team in a wonky division. 259 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: J Mack with the news. 260 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: No, no, this is the herd line news. 261 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 7: All right, let's bust right into it. The forty nine 262 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 7: ers colin the big store in the NFL right now? 263 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 7: Is they their quest to be playing at home in 264 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. There's just a few games away. All 265 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 7: they gotta do take down Seattle Saturday night. They are 266 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 7: a small underdog. As you see there on the screen. 267 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 7: Kyle Shanahan is very excited, said that forty nine ers 268 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 7: have earned this, adding we love an opportunity to never 269 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 7: leave here again. 270 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 6: Entering the playoffs, Colin, there's a big one. It sounds 271 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 6: like it's gonna make your blazing five. 272 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 7: And I know you love going against Brock Purdy to 273 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 7: the demise of your wallet over the years. 274 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: Well, I do think Purty is a different quarterback when 275 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: there's a pass rush, and you know, against Chicago it 276 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: was kind of a passive game plan. And I also 277 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: think I think Seattle, arguably right now, is the most 278 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: consistently good team in football half to have. Philadelphia may 279 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: have a better roster, but you don't know what you 280 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: get offensively half to half. Seattle's a handful. 281 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 5: Now. 282 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: Of course, Sam Darnold when he faces pressure can get reckless. 283 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: But you and I both know the one thing San 284 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Francisco does not do without blitzing is they don't create 285 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: a pass rush. So I actually think it's not about 286 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: Perty and Darnald. I don't think either will be hyper effective. 287 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: I think it's about Donald and that run game without 288 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure had been successful this year and 289 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: brought Purty. Whether trailing because Seattle a pretty good first 290 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:43,359 Speaker 1: FT team. Whether trailing or facing pressure comes down in efficiency. 291 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: So I think it's a very very close game. Would 292 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: not be shocked if San Francis go one, but it 293 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: should be noted again McCaffrey had another huge touch game. 294 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: I just wonder how many of these you can stack 295 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: up after another. 296 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't want to give away my pick yet, but. 297 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 6: Colin, I'm going to just give a way. 298 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 7: So two weeks ago, the Rams did whatever they wanted. Remember, 299 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 7: up and down the field, thirty points. McVeigh was going 300 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 7: on fourth down, ultra confident, right. They end up scoring 301 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 7: thirty seven in overtime. These are the other teams Seahawks 302 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 7: have played recently. Carolina, which doesn't really have a functional 303 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 7: offense all the time, Philip Rivers, who is forty five 304 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 7: years old, going back to the sofa Atlanta and I 305 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 7: believe that was Kirk Cousins in a disaster, and JP 306 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 7: whatever Brosmer, whatever, Max Brosmer or the kid in Minnesota. 307 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 6: They haven't seen a good offense. The forty nine ers 308 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 6: are going to score against these guys at will? 309 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 8: I just don't. 310 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 7: I'm really worried Colin about that forty nine ers pass 311 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 7: rush and your boy Sammy D. 312 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: Slam Sammy D. 313 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 7: Can we get him to see some ghosts in the pocket. 314 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 7: Maybe Robert Salad. 315 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 6: Cooked something up. I don't know. I just yeah, I 316 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 6: don't know. 317 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be one of the really, really 318 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: entertaining game. Last week we got San Francisco and Chicago, 319 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: which is as good a game as we've had this year. 320 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: That come on, well, I think it's going to be 321 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: pretty good. I think it's gonna be pretty good. 322 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 7: All right, let's move on to the Philadelphia Eagles, Colin 323 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 7: and mysterious team right now. I don't know what to 324 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 7: make of them. By the way, it looks like they 325 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 7: will host the Rams in the first round. Holy yeah, 326 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 7: that's a game. Anyways, Nick Sirianni, you know, he's getting 327 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 7: a lot of questions about that second half. 328 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 6: Where they had seventeen yards. 329 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 7: They've won two games Colin where Jalen Hurts did not 330 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 7: throw with a complete of pass in the second half, 331 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 7: zero completions, and they won them. 332 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 6: That's staggering. 333 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: Anyway. 334 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 7: Here's Nick Sirianni talking about the offensive game plans after halftime. 335 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 9: I got to help I put it on myself. I 336 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 9: got to help, you know, with some things there, with 337 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 9: some things that I know we want to get called. 338 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 9: You know, Kevin did a good job in that first half, 339 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 9: but I got to help in that second half a 340 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 9: little bit getting some things that we want to get 341 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 9: called there. And then you know, in execution, it's everything right. 342 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 5: And so. 343 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 9: Obviously I'm not going to get too much into it. 344 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 9: I have some thoughts, you know, and we'll go back 345 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 9: and look at it. But a lot of things that 346 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 9: we can do differently and better there in the second half. 347 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles remain the enigma of the league there. Listen, 348 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: it's crazy. They regularly don't complete three passes in halves 349 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: and win all of those games in a passing league. 350 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean so, and I get I'll give Sirianni credit. 351 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was ready for the job when 352 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: he got it. But you know what he does really 353 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: really well. He stepped to the microphone, he takes a bullet. 354 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: He's always willing to say it's on me. And that's 355 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: that's like leadership. It's real easy to point fingers. We've 356 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: seen coaches in quarterbacks, one of them in Pittsburgh that 357 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: love to point fingers when things don't go right, Sirianni 358 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: takes it. He's always like, yeah, it's me. So Philadelphia does. 359 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is the only professional football organization in America. Okay 360 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 1: that does what bad teams do. They fire coaches who 361 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl, They get rid of quarterbacks 362 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: that win Super Bowls. They hire coaches who aren't quite 363 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: ready for it. They take players with red flags that 364 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: other teams take off their board. They literally have halves 365 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: where the worst offense in the league. They have drama 366 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: in the locker room, the quarterback, in the receiver, they 367 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: all this. If I just wrote down on a list 368 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: what they do, coach can jaw with fans. You'd be like, oh, 369 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: that's got to be like is that the Saints? Is 370 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: that the Jets? So you're like, no, it's a Philadelphia Eagles, 371 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: a dominant professional football organization. So I think there's something 372 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: about Philadelphia that you can't deny any industry you're in. 373 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: When you are as passionate and you care as much 374 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: as Philadelphia does about the NFL, and you've got a 375 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: smart owner and a smart GM and you're willing to 376 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: move off and into people quickly, it trumps a lot 377 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: of other little frailties or vagaries you have in the organization. 378 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's interesting, Colin. 379 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 7: I know some Eagles fans, you know, I spent some 380 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 7: years in outside of Philadelphia. They almost are like, hey man, 381 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 7: this season is so stressful and exhausting. If we lose 382 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 7: in the first round, it's not the worst thing in 383 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 7: the world, because maybe Sirianni gets fired. And I gotta 384 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 7: ask you, like, it's in play that they could make 385 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 7: a run to the super Bowl. The defense is that good. Oh, 386 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 7: But at the same time, they could lose to the 387 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 7: Rams in the first round, and maybe that's what they need. 388 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 7: Get Syriana out of here, right, can you do that? 389 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 7: Can you fire him after he goes? 390 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they will because I think he's grown 391 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: into the job. I think he's grown up. I think 392 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: we have to be fair. You know. I always tell 393 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: my kids this, When you get a job, you shouldn't 394 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 1: be ready for it. Your resume should be ready for it. 395 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be ready for it. You should bail water 396 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: for six weeks. Sirianni, I didn't think year one was 397 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: ready for the job, but I got to give him credit. 398 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: I think he's more mature now, he's grown up. He's better. 399 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: He takes one for the team, and there is something 400 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: about Philadelphia of those feels like an occasional caller on 401 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: WIP radio. 402 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 6: God, that's what you aspired to, So Colin, earlier you. 403 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 7: Were like, hey, he's really good at the podium. He says, 404 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 7: my bad, my fault. 405 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: I messed up. 406 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 6: Colin. If you went to management. 407 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 7: Every single day after the show and said, yeah, we 408 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 7: had a bad one, I was on me, and then 409 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 7: you did it the next day and the next week. 410 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 7: Because that's what Siriannie's doing well every week. He's taking bullets. 411 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's as secure as Shanahan or as 412 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: secure as to Miko Ryans or McVeigh or Hardball. I'm 413 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: not saying he's that secure. I'm saying I don't think 414 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: he's in trouble. 415 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 5: Should you? 416 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 6: Maybe that's a better question. Should he be? If they 417 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 6: lose in the first round, I'm done with him. 418 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: Get out. 419 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 7: You get too good of a team. This is an 420 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 7: awesome team. He can't fix the offensive coordinator, the very 421 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 7: good roster. I will have prattled on a little too long. 422 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 7: All right, let's wrap up Colin Andy Reid. You know 423 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 7: there is some concern. Well, you know, Kelsey's retiring. Maybe 424 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 7: Andy Reid. 425 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 6: Just steps down. Not so fast. 426 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 7: Andy Reid sounds like he has no doubt going to decide. 427 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 6: He's going to continue as head coach of the Chiefs. 428 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 6: Here is read talking about that situation. 429 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 10: No, I'm I. 430 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: Think I'm coming back, right If they'll have me back, 431 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I'll come back. 432 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 5: You never know in this business, Matt. 433 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 11: So that's a you know, that's a that's a tough one, 434 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 11: but I plan on it. 435 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 436 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: Well, the good news for them is that they got 437 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: a better draft position. They don't have to draft. I mean, honestly, 438 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: it's a very I think it's a very good first round. 439 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: It's not going to be as good at quarterback, very 440 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: good at tackle. They could use a tackle. 441 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 6: I've been I'm working on my first mock draft. 442 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 7: Here you are, Jerah, what if Jeremiah Love is available, 443 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 7: the Notre Dame running back, then I would I would 444 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 7: take it. 445 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 6: Would you take him over a tackle? 446 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: Yes? Well, well, well let me say that again. I 447 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: would not take Love over the two best tackles in 448 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: this first round, one from Utah one for Miami. I 449 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: would probably take him over. The third best tackle also 450 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: from Utah, well. 451 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 7: The kid at Alabama, Caden Proctor. 452 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: All America too. Yeah, that was awesome. 453 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 6: I mean again, you saw Mahomes. 454 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 7: When you don't have his tackles, you know, the wide 455 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 7: receivers don't have time to run the routes you. 456 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: Can work without the most great left tackles in the 457 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: history of football. Twenty eight of thirty five first round. 458 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of great running backs in the third 459 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: round and beyond, so there's an argument get a running 460 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: back later. I mean, look at this kid. The Chicago 461 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: Bears have had a Rutgers seventh. I mean, the kid 462 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: is such a grinder, he's such a good player. 463 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, he helped carry me to the Fantasy Football Championship 464 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 7: over your boy, Jeff Schwartz. 465 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, baby, he was a good weekend. 466 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: It was good. 467 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and 468 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by the Herd line new The college 469 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: football playoffs starts tomorrow. I think Ohio State Miami is 470 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: a really good game. I like Ohio State, but I 471 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: think it's really close. I was thinking about this with 472 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. This is crazy. Since Week ten this 473 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: is with Josh Allen, Pro Bowl left tackle, James Cook, 474 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: excellent tight ends. Since Week ten, the Buffalo Bills are 475 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: twenty third in the NFL in first half scoring. That 476 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: is below shader standers in the Cleveland Browns. Basically, the 477 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Bills offense is Josh Allen save us in the second half. 478 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: So their first half point differential is twenty third. And 479 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: if you want to know who's really good scoring in 480 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: the first half, McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan, Ben Joneson in Chicago, Vrabel, 481 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels in New England. And what's crazy is if 482 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: you look at the construct of the Bills, you would 483 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: think with a great left tackle, great run game, good 484 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: tight end, best quarterback in the league, that they would 485 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: score a lot of points early and then they would 486 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: lean on James Cook in their run game to eat 487 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: the clock in the second half and win going away. 488 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: In fact, it's actually remarkable that they are the number 489 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: one run team in the league when they trail in 490 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: seven of their last eight games in the second half. 491 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: So that's But when I look at Buffalo, I have 492 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: had them at like tenh nick Wright finally loves Buffalo, 493 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: and my take is how do you win a Super Bowl? 494 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing. The Eagles, you don't know 495 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: what you get half to half, but they have great 496 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: first halfs and great second halfs. How do you win 497 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl when you trail in the second half 498 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: out of seven out of eight games. So, like I've 499 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: said before, that something isn't clicking when you have a 500 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: great running back, a great left tackle, an amazing quarterback, 501 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: excellent tight ends and you are constantly coming from behind. 502 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: Greg co Sell has talked about Buffalo and what he 503 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: sees on film. 504 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 10: So they're really not that good a football team. And 505 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 10: I know that there's been a lot of talk about, well, 506 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 10: this is Josh Allen jeer and if he doesn't make it, 507 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 10: you know, that is so silly. They're just not that 508 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 10: good overall from a talent perspective, and they've got no 509 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 10: receiving core. 510 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: So it's they're a hard team. 511 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 10: They have to scheme up everything on offense and then 512 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 10: hope that Josh Allen in a given game makes Josh 513 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 10: Allen plays. 514 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: So listen, I understand too Kansas City's feeling this. When 515 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: you have to draft at the bottom of the first round, 516 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: it's hard. Most gms i've talked to would trade out 517 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: of the first round. If you're drafting twentieth and lower, 518 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: you'd rather pay second round prices their second round talent. 519 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: There's about fifteen to seventeen, maybe eighteen in a good year, 520 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: real true first round talent. And I think this if 521 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: I think it's a really good first round, good tackles, 522 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: good edge rushers, couple big time linebackers, one great quarterback. 523 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: But it is remarkable this team doesn't score in the 524 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: first half. It's just playing from behind. I'll give them 525 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: credit that they should not be this good. Now they'll 526 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: beat the Jets Sunday, but they really shouldn't be this good. 527 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: You should not trail week after week in the second half. 528 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: They were scoreless with six minutes to go at home 529 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: against Philadelphia and it came down to a two point conversion, 530 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: which they should hit on Mike Rabel, Patriots coach. Next 531 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: it's the Heard. 532 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 533 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: in newon Eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 534 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 535 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 5: Well. 536 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: It's one of the few things I do right. I 537 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: make a prediction every year. I take an NFL team 538 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: that was not good the year before, and I say, 539 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: they're going to double their wins and make the playoffs. 540 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Last year, I think it was Denver. This year it 541 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: was New England. I said, if you give me Mike Vrabel, 542 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: Drake May's really good. They're going to be really really 543 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: a playoff team. I didn't think they'd be this good 544 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: this fast. I didn't think they'd rebuild their perimeter way 545 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: weapons this fast. Pretty remarkable. And the head coach, Mike Rabel, 546 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: knowing in a while we all have is joining us 547 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: three super Bowls, three division titles. Well, you know, Mike Herrett, 548 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: you are. I talked to a GM about you before 549 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: you got hired, and he said, Rabel is probably a 550 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: top two or three coach because you get the intellect. 551 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: But he's a culture builder. And the truth is in 552 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: modern football you need kind of a CEO, and a 553 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: lot of guys can't do this. So how do you 554 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: take I mean, you got a good owner, you knew 555 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: Josh and Drake. How do you build a culture? I mean, 556 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: what's the first six weeks? Like, what is the secret 557 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: sauce to build? It's just it's more than just knowing's schemes. 558 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: You got to build stuff. 559 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we and I appreciate you recognizing that. 560 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 11: I think we wanted to have a program in place 561 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 11: on April seventh that the players would be proud of, 562 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 11: that they wanted to take ownership of, and they wanted 563 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 11: to try to protect. So it's everything around the players, 564 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 11: making sure that that's good and it sound everything that 565 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 11: touches them. Great staff, great support staff. And then when 566 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 11: they get back in here, I wanted. 567 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 5: It to feel different. 568 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 11: I wanted to have an energy to it, and we 569 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 11: were intentional with, you know, with getting to know each 570 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 11: other all that. You know, everybody's journey to this National 571 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 11: Football League. It looks a little different, whether it's a 572 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 11: coach or a player, draft pick, high draft pick, you know, 573 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 11: free agent, whatever it may be. But everybody's got a 574 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 11: different journey to this league and they've got a different story, 575 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 11: and we we were intentional with trying to find out 576 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 11: what those were. And then then the play started, you know, 577 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 11: and then we started installing plate and I felt like 578 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 11: what was important in the off season was that we 579 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 11: try to get the right people in the building at 580 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 11: the right time, Elliott, Ryan and Stretch and everybody that 581 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 11: was involved in that process through free agency and the 582 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 11: draft and everything else. 583 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Elliott's a sharp guy. All the gms I know 584 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: in the league thinks he really really like him. When 585 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: did you know? Was there a moment that you said privately, 586 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't tell the players, or maybe you did 587 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: that you went to your staff and you said, guys, 588 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: we're good like right now, Like it was there Aphan 589 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: for you, Mike watching film thinking maybe we're a little 590 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: better than a nine or ten win team, we're a 591 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen win team. 592 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 11: Well, I don't think I ever really thought that. I 593 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 11: think that we just try to improve, you know. I 594 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 11: try to tell them things that have helped me through 595 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 11: the thirty years of being in this league, of trying 596 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 11: to improve along the way, and the teams that continue. 597 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 5: To improve are the ones that get to play in 598 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 5: January and in the postseason. 599 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 11: And we try to do that, you know, focus on 600 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 11: some keys, focus on building an identity, and then once 601 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 11: you build something that you care about, you try to 602 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 11: protect it. 603 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: You made a comment in camp that I remember, and 604 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: I talked about it on the air. You said, in camp, Hey, 605 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: to be great, you got to be a leader every 606 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: day Drake May every day you got to lead, and 607 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: it was almost like you were kind of pushing him, like, kid, 608 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: I know you're the youngest guy in the locker room. 609 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: Was that your intention that it it is hard to 610 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: be twenty three and lead men that are often thirty three? 611 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: Was that your intention when you said that? 612 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 11: Yeah, And I think you know, all anything that I've 613 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 11: said publicly, I've said, you know, obviously privately to our 614 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 11: players or staff or anybody else. So that wasn't I've 615 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 11: never tried to send a message through the media. But 616 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 11: just talking about maturity, I don't think maturity has anything 617 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 11: to do with age. It has everything to do with 618 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 11: experience and what Drake went through last year in his 619 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 11: first year and the things that he experienced and what 620 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 11: he the opportunities that he had, and then going into 621 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 11: the second season and learning a new offense and you know, 622 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 11: building and the training camp, and I think you just 623 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 11: start to see each and every day. You know, his spirit, 624 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 11: his passion, his energy, his leadership, how much he puts 625 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 11: into this, the excitement that he has for everybody on 626 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 11: the football team when they have success, and he's into 627 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 11: this when the defense, defensive guys and we played a 628 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 11: bunch of guys last week in the Jets game. He 629 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 11: stayed in the game, and he's supporting every single guy. 630 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 11: So I think his maturity has grown extremely high since 631 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 11: I've first met him in January or whatever it was. 632 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: You're a defensive guy, yet you feel very current with offense. 633 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: That is not the case with a lot of defensive coaches. 634 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: They just don't feel like they quite have a sensibility 635 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: for it. How do you stay connected to offense when 636 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: your history is on the other side. 637 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 5: Well, spent all the time on offense back in the day. 638 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 11: But I would say just having the experience to be 639 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 11: in Tennessee and be the head coach there and you know, 640 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 11: one of our best players, or if not our best 641 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 11: player was Derrick Henry, and how important the run game 642 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 11: was to us. And I guess maybe having a son 643 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 11: that was an offensive lineman, I gravitated towards that room. 644 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 5: I tried to learn. 645 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 11: I try to understand blocking schemes, but I also felt 646 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 11: like as a defensive player, I wanted to know what 647 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 11: the scheme was, or what the other guy across me, 648 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 11: what his job was, and maybe that would help me. 649 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 5: Do my job. 650 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 11: I'm sitting in a lot of meetings and try to 651 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 11: learn from you know, the coaches, the coordinators, and because 652 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 11: I feel like the one thing that I can do 653 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 11: is have a connection with each and every player in 654 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 11: every position. I can just have one or two things 655 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 11: about the game plan or something that they can do 656 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 11: to you know, help them do their job better. 657 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: That's an immediate connection. 658 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 11: Especially during the season, I can I can walk in 659 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 11: and say, hey, you know, this is how they're running 660 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 11: their games, or this is the pressure, or you know, 661 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 11: whatever it may be. If I can just have one 662 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 11: thing that's that's a good connection for me or a 663 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 11: good place for me to be able to enter into 664 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 11: a meeting. 665 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: Mike, you have a when you sit after a game, 666 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: you stand up and you meet every player. You obviously 667 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: connect with players. Is the hardest part of your job 668 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: when you have to bark and not be a friendly 669 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: guy because you're you're a guy that really connects emotionally. 670 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: What happens when you have to turn on that guy 671 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: the next day at practice and bark a tough thing. 672 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 11: Well, We've always talked about that. When you can make 673 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 11: a connection with somebody and you you know, did you 674 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 11: get on guys? I got to protect the team. That's 675 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 11: my job by tell them that I don't have to 676 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 11: do it all the time, that they can do it, 677 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 11: and if they don't, and I'm more than happy to 678 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 11: to step in and do that. I know how hard 679 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 11: their job is. That's why I've always stood out there, 680 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 11: win or lose. Thank them for what they do out 681 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 11: there on the football field. We don't take those things 682 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 11: or opportunities for granted. You know, there's a lot of 683 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 11: pressure on them to perform personally and also for this team, 684 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 11: and so yeah, there's never I'm trying to be demanding 685 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 11: and not be the meaning and certainly try to work 686 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 11: on the way that I my tone in the way 687 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 11: that I try to hold everybody accountable. 688 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: Does Brady ever call you and try to give you 689 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: tips on Drake May or anything like that? Does he 690 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: ever is ever text or anything like that. 691 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 5: We're all set right now. 692 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: I tried, I try to give him tips on broadcasting. 693 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: He didn't want to listen to that either, So. 694 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 5: He should, Yeah, he should, he should pay attention. 695 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: Hey, good luck, congrats, Really happy for you, Mike. You've 696 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: kicked but yeah, thank you for your support. 697 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. 698 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: You bet, Mike Frabele. Uh yeah, I mean I I 699 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: thought they were going to be really good. I thought 700 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: they were going to be a playoff team. I didn't 701 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: think they were going to be this good. I didn't 702 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: like the Receiving Corps last year at all. I thought 703 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: they were just slow and didn't have any juice. And 704 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: they've they've they've been outstanding. So I speaking of coaches, 705 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: did you see I don't use this word very often, courageous. 706 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: Did you see the courageous Lincoln Riley yesterday willing to 707 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: go to the podium and confront the issue with the 708 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Notre Dame USC rivalry and admit publicly that they should 709 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: be playing. Here's Lincoln Riley. 710 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 12: Had Notre Dame lived up to their word and played 711 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 12: us any time anywhere, we would be playing in the 712 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 12: next two years and looking ahead after that and hopefully 713 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 12: continuing the series. 714 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 5: They did not. 715 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 12: Follow through on it. Thus we are not playing them 716 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 12: the next couple of years. We're hopeful something can be 717 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 12: worked out in the future. That'd be fantastic. We at 718 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 12: SC would love for the game to continue, and we 719 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 12: have no problem following through on our promises. 720 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 5: In the future. 721 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: That's what a courage looks like. Let me ask the 722 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: former angry USC Trojan players something who are madness for 723 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: the time being anyway that this game won't take place. 724 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you former Trojan something or any of 725 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: you business people are entrepreneurs. If you are, If you 726 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: went into business with somebody and that person had a 727 00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: side deal that could potentially cut you out of profits, 728 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: you still want to do business with that person. You do, Gosh, 729 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: I'd like to do business with you. Then I'll have 730 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: some side deals. You're okay with Notre Dame side deal 731 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: which this year, if they had it, would have knocked 732 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: Miami out of the College Football Playoff, The Miami that 733 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: went to Texas and M and one and has the 734 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: ability to beat Ohio State tomorrow night. You'd be comfortable 735 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: with that side deal. In fact, USC next year could 736 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: go nine and two in the regular season, be ranked tenth, 737 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: Notre Dame could be ranked twelveth, and Notre Dame would 738 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: get in and US he would get knocked out because 739 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: of automatic bids. You're okay with that. Yeah, I'm not 740 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: going to apologize because I care more about trophies than tradition, 741 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 1: money than mementos. Sorry I do, but I'm going to 742 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: give Notre Dame credit for this. Notre Dame is clearly 743 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: priority due to the side deal the playoff. Notre Dame 744 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: used to play Michigan every year. If they don't, they 745 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: got over it. Go look at Notre dame schedule. Notre 746 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: Dame said, no, we're not going to go play USC 747 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: in September. We know we have a week schedule. We're 748 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: not going to do it because Notre Dame prioritized getting 749 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: into the playoff. The former Trojans that are angry seems 750 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: to me are prioritizing history, like I'm not going to 751 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: apologize because I use AI in the Internet. Like USC 752 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to apologize because they're prioritizing because their schedule 753 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: as a fully committed member to the Big Ten is brutal. 754 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: At Indiana, at Penn State, Oregon, Washington, Ohio State, Iowa. Yeah, 755 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: we'll play, but you got a side deal, so here's 756 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: our deal. We're playing early, that's all USC said. You 757 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: got a side deal, so here's our deal. We're not 758 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: playing in the middle of the Big Ten schedule. We 759 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: got a trigonometry final. You got home x six times, 760 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: so you know, I appreciate Lincoln Riley going out and saying, 761 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, we kept up on our deal. But just 762 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: ask yourself if you're a Trojan and you're angry, if 763 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: you went into business with somebody and that person had 764 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: a side deal that could cut you out of profits 765 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the deal, you still want to 766 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: do the deal? Really, you're that naive? Well, well, I 767 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: mean they used to be trustable. Uh, contractually, they have 768 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: a side deal cut you out of the profits. This 769 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: was the only thing us he could do. It's the 770 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: only smart thing us he could do. It may hurt 771 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: your feelings. You may not like the lack of embrace 772 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: toward history. I get that. I understand if you played 773 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: the game, you love the game. But just let me 774 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: give you a heads up. All you former Trojans on business, 775 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: if your partner's got a side deal that can cut 776 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: you out of the profits, you may hire a lawyer 777 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: and wiggle out of the deal because it's not a 778 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: good deal for you. It would be a great deal 779 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. We get your strength to schedule, and 780 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: we get you after you just played Ohio State or 781 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: Michigan or Oregon. Yeah, we'd love to play USC in 782 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: October fresh off being in Columbus the week before. That's 783 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: great for Notre Dame.