1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Should I have said something when some random old guy 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: touched my hair? 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: You know that's not something you want old random guys touching. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing you want them touching is the 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: space six feet under the ground. This happened last week. I, 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: fourteen female, was with my best friend Jules fourteen female 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: not a real name, and her twin sisters thirteen at 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: eighty Ears, a fast food place here in South Africa. 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: We were coming from the mall where we were with 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: some friends, just shopping and whatnot and what teenagers do. 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: While driving from the mall, Jewels mom suggested we go 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: get some ice cream. I was a bit skeptical and unsure, 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: as we had ice cream with lunch at the mall already, 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: and I, for one, am kind of chubbing. I constantly 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: have my parents on my back trying to get me 16 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: to eat better, which has now brushed off onto me. 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: I voiced my concerns, along with the fact that we 18 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: had to get home since it was pretty late in 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: the afternoon and my strict parents were bound to get worried. 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: Jewels and her mom told me not to worry, No, 21 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: it's all good and try to convince me. We eventually 22 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: pulled up to Steers to get the ice cream. After 23 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: much consideration, I decided, I'm just gonna get the ice cream. 24 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: It's not like my parents are going to force me 25 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: to vomit it out anyway. So Jewles, her sister, and 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: I got out of the car and ordered while her 27 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: mom waited for us in the car. Now, I had 28 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: an afro, as is my hairstyle that day. I am 29 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: very proud of my hair, and whenever I wear it naturally, 30 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I take a lot of time to make sure it's perfect. 31 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: I also get a lot. 32 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Of compliments from strangers when I wear my natural hair, 33 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: especially when it's in an afro subtle flex. I know 34 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: Op looks good, and she knows she looks good. So 35 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't worried when a random guy about forty maybe 36 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: fifty years old approached me and. 37 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: Said, your hair is so amazing. 38 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: I look to Jewels to tell her it was okay. 39 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: We live in South Africa, which is statistically one of 40 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: the most dangerous places for women in the world, so 41 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: whenever a man comes up to us, we always feel 42 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: on edge. Oh wow, We thanked him and turned back 43 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: to the counter. We thought that was all you would 44 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: think that would be all, but no. This guy then 45 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: moves right next to me, grabs my hair in his 46 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: hands and starts moving his fingers it oh while asking you, 47 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: and I kid you not, is it real? I was 48 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: in shock. I did not know what to do. I 49 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: was angry, shocked, and confused all at the same time. 50 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: It felt like he had his hand in my hair 51 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: forever before he eventually took it out, took his order, 52 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: and walked away, muttering how nice my hair was. We 53 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: all know this dude's creepy. Jewels, her sisters, and I 54 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: just stood shocked in silence until we got ice creams 55 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: and got into the car. At this point I started 56 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: to laugh because the whole thing just felt real. Jewel's 57 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: mom asked us what happened, and we told her. She'd 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: been driving at this point and pulled over to look 59 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: at me as she told me, I should have done something, 60 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: maybe even shouted at him get hands out of my haircurls. 61 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm not great with conflict in public, so for me, 62 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: this was not an option. Jewels and her sisters also agreed. 63 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: When they dropped me off at home, I told my 64 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: parents and they were just shocked. I personally don't have 65 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: much of a problem with this, since this happened to 66 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: me before. Girl, I do feel that it was disrespectful 67 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: for the guy to touch my hair without asking. I 68 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: don't like to let anyone touch my hair unless I 69 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: know them well. So that bothered me, but only a bit. 70 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: At some point, you just got to get used to 71 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: it and learn to ignore it. Sticks and stones may 72 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: break your bones, but someone tugging on your hair is 73 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: crossing the line. So should I have said something to 74 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: this guy when he touched my hair? Alrighty weird situation. 75 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: So my question is to you, some old dude goes 76 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: grabs a thick chunk of your hair and says, hmmm, 77 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: this feels so good. I love this. What are you 78 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: saying to this old dude? Put your answers in the commons? 79 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: But John, what do you think you know? 80 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's whatever OPI feels, 81 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Since it's her hair, it's like, 82 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: all right, if you want to just like, essentially, I 83 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: guess not deal with it. Is kind of like the approach. 84 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: It seems like, all right, just like let it pass. Yeah, 85 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: if that's what OPI wants to do, what he wants 86 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: to do. 87 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Is really you could do whatever the frick you want 88 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: with it, and you also can have people not touch 89 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: it like that's allowed to That is very a loud, 90 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: very allowed. Yeah, let us know what you would do 91 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: in this situation. 92 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Let us know later. My mom told me my dad 93 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: disowned me, but he's just bisexual. Ah, there's not many 94 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: words to say for this one. 95 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't even know. I don't 96 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: even know how to respond. 97 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: All right, let's let's let's let's get to the bottom 98 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: of this one. For most of my life, I was 99 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: raised by just my mother, since my father left us 100 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: when I was three, and my mom and I are 101 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: very close. But my mom has always been vague about 102 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: the details of the divorce, just that it was very 103 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: painful and sudden, and that he never had any interest 104 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: of getting custody of me. That's sad, damn. A couple 105 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: months ago, I was going through documents looking for my 106 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: birth certificate and I came across the divorce papers. Oh crash, 107 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: she found out what was going on. Surprisingly, my mom 108 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: was listed as the one who filed for divorce, completely 109 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: contradicting her story that he left us huh, Yeah, so 110 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: she's she's starting starting to see the crack. 111 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the holes are being poked in the story. 112 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: I figured there must have been a reason for this, 113 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: like him being abusive or something, but I know that 114 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: my mom is sensitive about the topic, so I didn't 115 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: want to bring it up. I asked my aunt, who 116 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: is her sister, but I was told to just drop it. 117 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: It's been bugging me. So I decided to look for 118 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: him and I found him on Facebook. 119 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: She found Ope, she found her dad. 120 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: She found her. 121 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: Dad Facebook just bringing families together for real. Thanks Mark. 122 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: His profile was completely private, but his profile picture showed 123 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: him with a little boy who must. 124 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: Be my brother? What so she has a brother now 125 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: that she didn't know about? Wait, so from the same marriage, 126 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: we're about to find out, I guess. I found his 127 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: business email online, and against my better judgment, I decided 128 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: I was going to email him asking if he wanted 129 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: to meet for coffee, and he agreed. 130 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: Last week, we met and he was completely not what 131 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: I was expecting at all. He was thrilled to see 132 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: me and even almost cried and wanted to hear everything 133 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: I'd been up to for the past fifteen years. I 134 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: asked why he left, and that's when I started getting 135 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: his side of the story. Towards the end of their marriage, 136 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: my father confessed to my mom that he is bisexual 137 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: and that during high school and college he had a 138 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: serious boyfriend. He was ashamed of his sexuality, which was 139 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 2: why he hid it from my more traditional mom. My 140 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: mom was angry, but didn't divorce him because of it. 141 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: After the divorce, he began dating his boyfriend again, and 142 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: my mom freaked out over me being quote unquote exposed to. 143 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: This, exposed to a healthy, happy relation. 144 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: Healthy happy relationship. Oh my god, jeez, how dare you? 145 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: My mom petitioned for full custody and was granted it 146 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: by the court. Over the years, my father has attempted 147 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: to reach out to my mom about me, but she 148 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: has never budged and never let him see me. I 149 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: asked my mom about what really happened, nobs, no holding back. 150 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: That's when I told her dad's side of the story. Oh, 151 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: the truth, the truth. 152 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Comes out, finally comes out. I want to hear that truth. 153 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I can handle it, John, tell me the truth. 154 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: Can't handle the truth. Let's get to it. She started 155 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: choking up and tearfully admitted that everything was true. She 156 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: insists that it wasn't out of anger or bigotry, but 157 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: because she genuinely believed that it was best for me 158 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: to stay with her. I don't know if I'm following 159 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: your timeline, Mama. There's no other evidence of anything else 160 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: that has been If that's the case, give me one 161 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: other reason. 162 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: How is it best for your child to grow up 163 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: without their father? 164 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 165 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: Why does he have that option? Like, I mean, I 166 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: feel like you should take it, especially if the father. 167 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: It seems like the father is like a gay guy. 168 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: It seems he wants to be involved. He's been asking 169 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: over the past fifteen years. It doesn't really makes sense. 170 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: I am just so shocked. Still, she lied to me 171 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: for years, making me think my own father didn't want me. 172 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's honestly. The craziest part is that she 173 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: told her like the father abandoned. 174 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: Them, yeah, and never wanted custody. 175 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: Dude. 176 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Like, it's like, hey, not only where did your father 177 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: leave but didn't even try to see you. 178 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: That's that's unacceptable. My dad and I are reconnecting now, 179 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: but I've just missed so much of my life with him. 180 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: Next week, I'm going to meet his husband and my 181 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: seven year old half brother. I live with my mom, 182 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: but I cannot speak to her right now. 183 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, she lied. She important part of your life 184 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: for so long. 185 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: Terrible. She is begging me, begging me to forgive her. 186 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: But I'm so angry and I don't know how I'll 187 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: ever not be angry with her. Dude, that's tough. You know, 188 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: you had this great relationship prior, like you know, you thought, oh, 189 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: it's just the two of us, and then it's like, wow, 190 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: she's been hiding. 191 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: So much this, you know, it's like, how can you 192 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: trust anything she says? 193 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: How can you? Truly? 194 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Insane, insane,