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Speaker 2: of Reality TV and one of the most sought after
Speaker 2: executive producers in reality television with over ten years of
Speaker 2: production experience. Once a week on Reality with the King,
Speaker 2: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,
Speaker 2: recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that
Speaker 2: we are still talking and tweeting about. Rain Drops here,
Speaker 2: She's here, and I could not be happier than two.
Speaker 1: I'm fanning out.
Speaker 3: I'm fanning out.
Speaker 1: No, I'm fanning out, Fanny.
Speaker 2: I don't think you know how much I adore you
Speaker 2: and love you.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of yours.
Speaker 2: Chelsea las Kannie from selling Sunset Bitch.
Speaker 1: No, I'm a fan.
Speaker 4: I'm a fan of yours because I don't do podcasts,
Speaker 4: you know, I tell everybody I do not do podcasts
Speaker 4: because I also don't believe in talking about a lot
Speaker 4: of things that goes on the show and not addressing
Speaker 4: them with the people directly. That's just that's my philosophy.
Speaker 4: I rather just talk to the person directly. But when
Speaker 4: I've been a big fan of yours for a long time,
Speaker 4: when you reached out to me, I said, if there's
Speaker 4: one podcast I'm the dow, it's Carlos's. And I text
Speaker 4: my agents. They were like, what, Chelsea, We've been trying
Speaker 4: to get you to do poscasts for like a year
Speaker 4: and a half.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna do this one.
Speaker 4: He sees me, and he respects me, and even if
Speaker 4: he asks tops questions, I know that he's coming from
Speaker 4: a place of love. And I need someone to I
Speaker 4: need someone to see me to ask me the right questions.
Speaker 3: Otherwise I don't want to I don't want to have
Speaker 3: small talk.
Speaker 1: Don't make me cry. Don't make me cry. That means
Speaker 1: a lot to me.
Speaker 2: I created this podcast to be a safe space for
Speaker 2: peep on reality television, especially black women who dominate reality TV.
Speaker 2: And the moment you stepped foot on selling Sunset, Me
Speaker 2: and My group Chat and the Rain drops.
Speaker 1: We were all like, who.
Speaker 2: Is this bad bitch that is about to set this
Speaker 2: show on fire?
Speaker 1: And you have not let us down.
Speaker 2: The community loves you, I mean the black community.
Speaker 1: We ride for you. We ride for you.
Speaker 2: You are a beautiful, dark skinned black woman, African born
Speaker 2: and raised in the UK, right, and we're proud of you.
Speaker 2: And I want you to know that we see you.
Speaker 2: I see you and baby were about to have some fun.
Speaker 3: You're gonna make me cry.
Speaker 2: No, we see you, and I want to know that
Speaker 2: we see you, and we're no, no, no, don't don't cry.
Speaker 1: Make up, honey.
Speaker 2: But I need you to know, speaking on behalf of
Speaker 2: the black community, we're proud of you. You you hold
Speaker 2: it down on that show. And I know it's hard.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that later. Actually, let's get into it now.
Speaker 2: You as a dark skinned black woman coming into selling sunset?
Speaker 1: How did that come about?
Speaker 4: Minded my business, I had my real estate license, so
Speaker 4: I got my real estate license actually to purchase my
Speaker 4: own house. That's the only reason I got my real
Speaker 4: estate license because I worked in oil and gas. I
Speaker 4: worked for oil gas company, did my master and oil
Speaker 4: and gas. And my husband and I recently got married
Speaker 4: and we wanted to purchase our mouthful home. I was
Speaker 4: looking at house in Manhattan Beach and I saw the
Speaker 4: commission on the houses, and I said, I'll be damned
Speaker 4: if I give this away to somebody that can do
Speaker 4: what I can do. So I went to real estate school,
Speaker 4: probably lasted about five six weeks, took my exam. I've
Speaker 4: got a very I got a retentive memory, so I
Speaker 4: can pretty much study for anything the day before and
Speaker 4: pass it. That's what got me through my undergrad and master's.
Speaker 4: And I took the exam, I passed it, and I
Speaker 4: purchased my house with my husband.
Speaker 1: You kept the commission and I kept the.
Speaker 4: That's pretty much how I got my real estate license.
Speaker 4: And then I started to do transactions for families and friends.
Speaker 4: And I was like, guys, if you're looking to buy
Speaker 4: or sell a house, I know traditionally they take two
Speaker 4: point five percent, but you're my homie. I'll do it
Speaker 4: for like two percent, or I'll do it for one
Speaker 4: point five. You know what, maybe I'll do it for free.
Speaker 3: Just break me off like a nice dinner at Nobo.
Speaker 3: We just gotta pay. We just got to pay my brokerage.
Speaker 4: And this is when I was working at Rode Royalty,
Speaker 4: which is a more traditional brokerage. I was like, I
Speaker 4: would be like some my my broker, I would be
Speaker 4: like Chelsea. They'll be like, Chelsea, you're buying another house.
Speaker 4: I was like, no, No, my sister is buying a house.
Speaker 4: The person is not related to me. I can't charge
Speaker 4: my sister the two point five percent. She's a struggling woman. Like,
Speaker 4: come on, technically, if my sister's buying the house, I'm
Speaker 4: buying the house.
Speaker 3: So it was always it was always good fun.
Speaker 1: So what year did you get your real estate license?
Speaker 4: I got my real estate license in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 4: two thousand and yeah, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Wow, And who approached you to be on selling Sunset
Speaker 2: the producer?
Speaker 1: How did they find you?
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 4: So I had a very private account, probably two thousand followers.
Speaker 4: I only posted myself and my partner. I didn't most
Speaker 4: of my Instagram photos, which some of which are still there,
Speaker 4: are just travel photos, folks, from our wedding, photos from
Speaker 4: our life together. You know, didn't really have many friends
Speaker 4: here because I had moved here from the UK and
Speaker 4: hadn't really gotten into any social circles, and I just
Speaker 4: got a message one day from a producer.
Speaker 3: Never never ever.
Speaker 4: Watched Selling Sunset A Day in My Life, Never watch
Speaker 4: Selling Sunset a Day in my Life on Bible, never
Speaker 4: watched it. Saw the message, ran to my husband and
Speaker 4: was like, this producer wants to interview me for this show.
Speaker 4: He's like, this is going to be some random guy
Speaker 4: in Saudi Arabia that wants to see your tips. I'm like,
Speaker 4: you are not going to be my up right now.
Speaker 4: You are not going to be my enemy of progress.
Speaker 4: I'll speak to you later, sir, the pipe person, I am.
Speaker 4: I'm not really formal as much as people look at
Speaker 4: me and they think, you know, I come across a reform. No,
Speaker 4: I'm very I just say what's on my mind. Message
Speaker 4: back instantly, and I'm like, hey, can you jump on
Speaker 4: a call real quick? And that the rest is history.
Speaker 1: What made you say yes to being on the show,
Speaker 1: knowing that.
Speaker 2: You're a private person with a private Instagram account, not
Speaker 2: feeling like you said earlier, this beautiful bombshell? What made
Speaker 2: you say yes to this opportunity?
Speaker 4: So there are a lot of reasons, but I think
Speaker 4: first and foremost have to go back to my faith,
Speaker 4: God definitely said this is for me. Like before I
Speaker 4: even got the opportunity, there was this overwhelming feeling that
Speaker 4: God wanted this for me. Then after my first phone call,
Speaker 4: I watched the show, and you know, I see these
Speaker 4: beautiful women crushing it in this industry and making a
Speaker 4: lot of money and being very aspirational with a large platform.
Speaker 4: But I see nobody that looks like me, and my
Speaker 4: heart like shattered because I was petrified.
Speaker 3: But I knew that this was this was.
Speaker 4: An opportunity for me to be that representation first and foremost,
Speaker 4: and then secondly, if not me, maybe there won't be
Speaker 4: another one. And knowing that if I got this opportunity
Speaker 4: and turned it down because of fear, the audience don't
Speaker 4: have that person to look to.
Speaker 3: So I said, as.
Speaker 4: Much as I want to do this for me and
Speaker 4: for my career, I really want to do it for
Speaker 4: my brownskin girls who maybe lack motivation, maybe feel like
Speaker 4: they can't crush it in their respective films that are
Speaker 4: dominated by people that don't look like them. And although
Speaker 4: I'm not a top I wasn't a top seller, I
Speaker 4: wasn't in the luxury market.
Speaker 3: Then I said, I'm going to do this. I'm going
Speaker 3: to show it.
Speaker 4: I'm going to show that it can be done because
Speaker 4: it's important. Representation is important, No.
Speaker 2: It is, and you represent us very very well on
Speaker 2: that show because you're being your authentic self and we
Speaker 2: can see it, and you're funny, aspirational, and you do
Speaker 2: a damn good job. And the reason why I know
Speaker 2: you do a damn good job is because Jason compliment
Speaker 2: to you a great deal, even at the reunion when
Speaker 2: he said, no, honey, I don't think you guys understand.
Speaker 2: I take her around and she's killing it. So that's
Speaker 2: a testament to just you and your hard work. But
Speaker 2: before we continue with that, I want to go back
Speaker 2: a little bit. You're from the UK, you're an African woman.
Speaker 2: What was your childhood like being African and growing up
Speaker 2: in the UK.
Speaker 3: My child was beautiful.
Speaker 4: There there was a lot of strife and struggles because
Speaker 4: first generation. Both my parents were born and raised in Nigeria,
Speaker 4: and you know, the great British dream, if you would
Speaker 4: like to call it. They moved to the UK for
Speaker 4: better prospects and better opportunities. They had me, my brother
Speaker 4: and sister, and they worked damn hard. My parents both
Speaker 4: kept multiple jobs. We never knew I never knew struggle,
Speaker 4: and there were a lot of struggles, but I never
Speaker 4: knew struggles because my parents went above and beyond to
Speaker 4: make sure we were sheltered from it. My mum was
Speaker 4: recruited very early on, probably when I was about i'd
Speaker 4: say nine or ten, to work for her first company abroad,
Speaker 4: which was in Switzerland, and then she was recruited again
Speaker 4: to work for another larger company in New Jersey, which
Speaker 4: was Johnston Johnson's, and she was C Suite at Johnston Johnson's.
Speaker 4: So I always had amazing representation and amazing role models
Speaker 4: from both of my parents. My dad is an architect
Speaker 4: and he was in property development, so I saw my parents,
Speaker 4: who don't speak like myself, they have African accents, really
Speaker 4: work extremely hard in Ghana respect in their respective fields.
Speaker 4: So hard work and hustle was ingrained in me from
Speaker 4: a very young age. But I didn't have the family
Speaker 4: dynamic that most people have. We didn't have dinner around
Speaker 4: the tables. I didn't have the many Christmases that I
Speaker 4: didn't see my mom or my dad. Maybe I saw
Speaker 4: one of them because we were in two different countries, but.
Speaker 3: I just had so much respect for.
Speaker 4: Them because they loved life, but they loved to work
Speaker 4: and they knew that like, you got to work ten
Speaker 4: times as hard, ten times as hard always and put
Speaker 4: your head down and the results will come. So I
Speaker 4: never feared making it anywhere because I saw my parents
Speaker 4: come from less than me. They ran so I could
Speaker 4: just walk and chill. So that's what my family life
Speaker 4: was like.
Speaker 2: And we saw your mother up here on the show,
Speaker 2: and one thing you mentioned is you didn't celebrate your birthday.
Speaker 1: Why was that?
Speaker 4: Birthdays were always a little bit triggering for me because
Speaker 4: for the most of my birthdays, not all my family
Speaker 4: was present. So although I lived in the UK with
Speaker 4: my dad, my brother and sister and mum lived in
Speaker 4: either Switzerland or New Jersey, so when birthdays roll around,
Speaker 4: I didn't have like my whole family there, So I
Speaker 4: always wanted to glaze over the day because for the
Speaker 4: most part, I think your parents celebrate your birthday's the
Speaker 4: most I had French.
Speaker 3: I had friends, but.
Speaker 4: Your parents the ones that really go all out. And
Speaker 4: it's not to say my parents didn't. We were just
Speaker 4: it was all about subsistence. We were just trying to
Speaker 4: We were just trying to live. We were just trying
Speaker 4: to make it. So birthdays weren't a big thing in
Speaker 4: my household, so I never celebrated them, never celebrating them.
Speaker 4: And then as I grew older and I got to
Speaker 4: a place where I could celebrate myself, or I could
Speaker 4: have my partner celebrate me, or I could have friends
Speaker 4: celebrate me, i'd kind of just I changed the day
Speaker 4: on my Facebook. I changed my birthday on my Facebook
Speaker 4: every single year so that when it came to my birthday,
Speaker 4: nobody would go and you know, you see it in
Speaker 4: the little corner, it's Chelsea Addi Foyer, which is my
Speaker 4: maiden name, or Chelsea Luis Connie's birthday. I would change
Speaker 4: it so nobody would know it's my birthday.
Speaker 2: So that's why when you celebrated your birthday on this
Speaker 2: season I'm selling Sunset, it was a big deal for
Speaker 2: you because you didn't do that growing.
Speaker 1: Up because your mother was traveling working.
Speaker 2: So was there this vision where it's like you stay
Speaker 2: with your dad and the rest of the stems go
Speaker 2: with mom.
Speaker 3: So it's this is.
Speaker 4: Kind of where my mind gets a little bit blurry,
Speaker 4: you know. I think trauma has a way of blurring
Speaker 4: certain realities. From what I remember, I was at a
Speaker 4: fundamental stage in my academic whereby moving at that point
Speaker 4: in time wouldn't be beneficial for me in terms of
Speaker 4: academically because I was I think I was just before
Speaker 4: sixth form and I needed to create I needed to
Speaker 4: finish my first set of exams. However, my brother, who
Speaker 4: is five years my junior, and my sister, who is
Speaker 4: almost two years my senior, there were perfect points where
Speaker 4: they could just transition easily into the US school system
Speaker 4: and not have any like they didn't miss out on anything.
Speaker 4: That's what I remember. So I ended up staying the
Speaker 4: UK with my dad, and my brother and sister moved
Speaker 4: to New Jersey with my mum.
Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier you never saw yourself as a beauty girl,
Speaker 2: so you devoted yourself to being smart, Like I'm going
Speaker 2: to be smart, I'm going to figure out life. I'm
Speaker 2: going to be happy. Why didn't you feel like a
Speaker 2: beautiful girl growing up? Because when I look at you,
Speaker 2: you are gorgeous. I mean, bone structure, galore and everything else.
Speaker 2: So what didn't you see in yourself as a little
Speaker 2: girl that I see now in you as a woman.
Speaker 3: I think beauty really is.
Speaker 4: Comes from inside, and I think because I didn't feel
Speaker 4: beautiful inside, I didn't exude the confidence you may see today.
Speaker 3: So I never really saw beauty.
Speaker 4: As aesthetics, as the way you look on the outside,
Speaker 4: because for the most part, I grew up in an
Speaker 4: area that was predominantly white, so I didn't have representations
Speaker 4: of beauty around me. So I always saw myself as
Speaker 4: an anomaly, So I never saw myself as beautiful, so
Speaker 4: I focused more or on beauty was like who you
Speaker 4: are as a person. But because I was struggling a
Speaker 4: lot and obviously focusing a lot of school and not
Speaker 4: having what most people had, which was both their parents
Speaker 4: therefore picture day or both their parents there for classes
Speaker 4: or parent teacher Day, whatever it was, I just felt like,
Speaker 4: as blessed as I am, my realities are just a
Speaker 4: little bit harder being a black woman with two immigrant parents,
Speaker 4: And I think that beauty was less physical and was
Speaker 4: just like like, I'm a little bit of a mess,
Speaker 4: you know, I got a little bit more struggles than
Speaker 4: all my white counterparts.
Speaker 3: I can never be here.
Speaker 4: I'm always going to be here, and maybe one day,
Speaker 4: if I keep working, I'll get to hear.
Speaker 3: That's why.
Speaker 4: That's really where my understanding of beauty came from, just
Speaker 4: having it all together. And because I didn't have it,
Speaker 4: I'm like trying to figure out my hair, trying to
Speaker 4: clip in a wig, just trying to just really trying
Speaker 4: to get by, quite honestly.
Speaker 3: Trying to get by.
Speaker 4: So of course I had many, you know, black friends,
Speaker 4: I have black family and stuff like that. But we
Speaker 4: were all in the same boat. We were all in
Speaker 4: we were we'd all talk together about the same things.
Speaker 3: We all felt like we.
Speaker 4: Were under like underseen, you know, or misscen maybe if
Speaker 4: that's if that's a if that's a word. So this
Speaker 4: goes back to representation. And then as I got older
Speaker 4: and you start to see the likes of Gabrielle Union
Speaker 4: and you start to see these beautiful queen's crushing, it's
Speaker 4: your power starts coming back and you start to think, Okay,
Speaker 4: I could be like that, I could do this, But
Speaker 4: at a young age, I didn't have that representation.
Speaker 2: You do know that there's black girls who are seeing
Speaker 2: you today the way you saw Gabrielle Union, So you
Speaker 2: should take that in the way you saw her saying,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I felt seen. Just know that there's
Speaker 2: little brownskin girls who love Realcity Television who were fans
Speaker 2: of Selling Sunset and they're looking at you. I hope
Speaker 2: you know that they too are like, there she is, Mom,
Speaker 2: Look there she is. There she is, and you should
Speaker 2: own that and just know that you're paying it forward
Speaker 2: the way Gabrielle Union did it for you and the
Speaker 2: other brownskin girls growing up.
Speaker 1: Thank you could that means something.
Speaker 3: That means a lot.
Speaker 1: No, that means something.
Speaker 2: So with your mom being gone and every little girl
Speaker 2: wants their mom around to teach them how to be
Speaker 2: a woman, was there a strain of your relationship with
Speaker 2: her growing up?
Speaker 3: Very much? So? I see myself I'm very much like
Speaker 3: my mother.
Speaker 4: My mother is the most charismatic, beautiful, intelligent, hard working
Speaker 4: woman I've ever met in my whole life.
Speaker 3: But she's hard working to a fault.
Speaker 4: So if she sets her mind to something, and for
Speaker 4: her it was to provide equally with my father, she's
Speaker 4: going for throttle at it because she knew that she
Speaker 4: looked and sounded different to everybody. It's one thing to
Speaker 4: look different, but to sound different. You know, you have
Speaker 4: to break that notion the moment you open your mouth
Speaker 4: when you don't sound like myself or or you. So
Speaker 4: we struggled a lot because commune, we didn't communicate as
Speaker 4: much as I would like. I didn't feel supported, I
Speaker 4: didn't feel seen. And it was only when I had
Speaker 4: my own kids and I'm like, I get it.
Speaker 3: You were just trying to survive.
Speaker 4: She wanted to have us in the best schools, with
Speaker 4: maybe tutors, the best education, so that we could do more,
Speaker 4: or so we could struggle less, is what she would say,
Speaker 4: so we could. She was like, I don't want you to.
Speaker 3: Go through what I've been through. This is why I'm
Speaker 3: doing this because I want you in private schools.
Speaker 4: I want you in areas where I want you in
Speaker 4: areas and social circles where you could you're set up
Speaker 4: to thrive from the jump. I don't want you to
Speaker 4: go through what I've been through. But it's only when
Speaker 4: I got older that I started that I really really
Speaker 4: understood it. At that point in time, I'm like, you
Speaker 4: left me, you know, I just I just wanted you here,
Speaker 4: But that's not the reality.
Speaker 1: So no, listen.
Speaker 2: I think one thing we realized as we get older
Speaker 2: is that our parents sacrifice a lot for us to.
Speaker 1: Be the human beings we are today.
Speaker 2: You're obviously accomplished, successful, well rounded, and a lot of
Speaker 2: that has to deal with the fact that your parents
Speaker 2: sacrificed the closeness that they may have not had being
Speaker 2: with you every single day in order for you to
Speaker 2: be here sitting next to Carlos King.
Speaker 1: Honey, So we thank your mom and dad.
Speaker 4: Thank you God, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean we did it.
Speaker 2: I did it, so job well done. You have not
Speaker 2: only an undergrad degree, you have a massive degree. Read
Speaker 2: your degrees. This is so funny about me learning more
Speaker 2: about you. I had no idea that you can get
Speaker 2: a degree in oil and gas, Like if that ain't
Speaker 2: some shit where you have to be a smart mother.
Speaker 2: You are not only a woman, a black woman, African
Speaker 2: woman in the UK. When we think of oil and gas,
Speaker 2: let's be real, we think of rich white men. We
Speaker 2: think of airs of the of the oil father or
Speaker 2: grandfather who left the legacy to his children. We think
Speaker 2: of Houston, Texas. We don't think about it in terms
Speaker 2: of getting a degree in this subject matter. What was
Speaker 2: happening to where you were, Like, that's what I want
Speaker 2: to study.
Speaker 4: So my mind works very numerically and I'm obviously Nigerian,
Speaker 4: and Nigeria possesses an abundance of oil resources, and I
Speaker 4: just took a great lik into it. I had plenty
Speaker 4: of Nigerian friends growing up, and I always saw myself
Speaker 4: maybe one day moving back to Nigeria, and I wanted
Speaker 4: to be a part of legislation, legislation there, so I
Speaker 4: said why not. It was very It was very fascinating
Speaker 4: to me. I loved sciences. I was really good in it.
Speaker 4: I was really good in math. And a lot of
Speaker 4: the people I knew in those respective industries were very wealthy.
Speaker 4: So said, okay, where's the coiner.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm gonna be here, be rich.
Speaker 2: No one thing you said on selling Sunset this is
Speaker 2: when I was like, oh, she's my bitch, and I'm
Speaker 2: forever like a fan.
Speaker 1: You said something your first season. You was having dinner.
Speaker 2: It was your husband and Jason, I remember, and you said,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay so I have to work. Before that,
Speaker 2: you said something that I said, if Carlos King has
Speaker 2: something on his tombstone, it would be this. You said,
Speaker 2: and I quote, I will never suffer in this life ever.
Speaker 4: Never.
Speaker 2: I will never suffer in this life because I am
Speaker 2: going to work hard for what? And I said, no,
Speaker 2: we'll talk this me being funny and silly, I said, oh,
Speaker 2: I see her and she sees me. Because I do
Speaker 2: feel like nowadays, I'll say, you don't got to. Nowadays,
Speaker 2: nobody wants to work hard. They want things easy. They
Speaker 2: want to be able to just have things familiar. Lab
Speaker 2: they don't know how to keep it and sustain it
Speaker 2: and multiply it. So when you said I want suck,
Speaker 2: but you said it was such conviction that it it
Speaker 2: literally shook me. And I kept rewinding it on my
Speaker 2: Netflix app and I recorded it and I posted on
Speaker 2: my page as my Monday motivation because I said, this
Speaker 2: girl's going places so me knowing that about you, you
Speaker 2: get this degree, obviously it makes a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Did you start working in that field post graduation?
Speaker 3: I did so.
Speaker 4: I worked with two oil and gas companies actually out
Speaker 4: here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: I only left.
Speaker 4: My last company, which is an oil and gas company,
Speaker 4: was actually Liquifinancial Gas. I think it was just right
Speaker 4: before getting my real estate license.
Speaker 3: I left it.
Speaker 4: I left it just before I took the test for
Speaker 4: my real estate license because I knew I was going
Speaker 4: to pivot, and this was the time I was planning
Speaker 4: to have my first child as well, and I knew
Speaker 4: that I was working nine to six and then probably
Speaker 4: coming home and doing some more work, and I knew
Speaker 4: that it wasn't going to be sustainable.
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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. Doctor Wendy Osefo is
Speaker 2: on The Real houseposor Potomac.
Speaker 1: You love her? I love her too. She's my girl.
Speaker 2: She was on my podcast and she educated me about
Speaker 2: being the child of Nigerian parents and how they want
Speaker 2: you to be the best of the best to make
Speaker 2: all the money in the world.
Speaker 1: What was that conversation like when your mom found.
Speaker 2: Out you were leaving your corporate job and taking a
Speaker 2: real estate license class, I mean real estate class to
Speaker 2: get your license.
Speaker 4: So my mom's very supportive, but she said listen, you
Speaker 4: need to work, because if you think that your husband
Speaker 4: just wants you to be there and spend his money,
Speaker 4: you're joking. Because, like to be honest with you, at
Speaker 4: being in a interracial relationship, I think my mum's very
Speaker 4: heavy on Chelsea. Make sure you have your own and
Speaker 4: make sure you have you're respected, you know, because at
Speaker 4: the same time, you don't look like everyone else, and
Speaker 4: you need your man to respect you. And the only
Speaker 4: way your man can respect you is if you work.
Speaker 4: That was her philosophy, and that was ingrained so deeply
Speaker 4: in me. So no matter who I've married, I was
Speaker 4: always going to work. I was never going to be,
Speaker 4: you know, somebody that I was never not going to
Speaker 4: contribute financially to my household. So I knew that when
Speaker 4: I do pivot, I have to make sure this works too.
Speaker 4: So in real estate started to work. It started to work.
Speaker 4: I realized that this is why everyone has their real
Speaker 4: estate license, because it's not that hard.
Speaker 1: I love you, get it, man, and we'll talk. Loves.
Speaker 2: We'll talk afterwards, because I may. When I hire you
Speaker 2: to find me a house, we'll talk. I did ask.
Speaker 2: I'll call you later because I'm so fascinated. But I
Speaker 2: love real estate, and I'm so fascinated by the transactional
Speaker 2: aspect of it because I'm independent. I love the fact
Speaker 2: that a real estate agents you make your own schedule
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, if you don't work,
Speaker 2: you don't get paid. So I love that self starting
Speaker 2: nature of it. Going back to your your husband, I
Speaker 2: love your relationship with him. I can If you don't
Speaker 2: know this, I'm gonna tell you that man loves you.
Speaker 1: I can tell by the way. It's very subtle.
Speaker 2: But because I work with women who's who's either married
Speaker 2: or single, I can tell when I'm like, girl, he
Speaker 2: don't see it for you, not five more years, he's
Speaker 2: gonna break up with you.
Speaker 1: Your husband loves you? Down down?
Speaker 3: How did you two meet on Tinder?
Speaker 4: He was my first hinder day. He snatched me, snatched
Speaker 4: me his eleven years my senior and I came out here.
Speaker 4: So funny story, and I haven't I haven't really shared this,
Speaker 4: but I moved here just before I moved here, sorry,
Speaker 4: just after completing my masters, I came over here with
Speaker 4: one suitcase. And you asked me why, because you're very surprised.
Speaker 4: I was running away from my ex boyfriend, who was
Speaker 4: very abusive, was in a very very toxic place in
Speaker 4: my life relationship wise, and I knew that I had
Speaker 4: to just I had to, you know, like proximity is
Speaker 4: something because you can mentally leave a relationship, but if
Speaker 4: your proximity in the person are closed, you can find
Speaker 4: yourself like going back into that same cycle.
Speaker 3: And that's what I saw. So I literally booked a
Speaker 3: ticket term Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: My mum had an apartment here and she was transitioning
Speaker 4: between between rolls and I grabbed a suitcase and filled
Speaker 4: it up and left.
Speaker 1: He was physically abusive to you. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you you escaped.
Speaker 2: Town m h and moved here with one suitcase.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with no plan.
Speaker 4: I had a little bit of a plan because I'm
Speaker 4: a big planner, being the academic that I am.
Speaker 3: I said, Okay, let me go get one more degree.
Speaker 3: That's what I said.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm gonna go get an mb I'm going
Speaker 4: to go get an MBA. So I started studying for
Speaker 4: the gap because I wanted to go to Columbia and
Speaker 4: my sister lived in New York. My sister was working
Speaker 4: on Wall Street. She had just finished her master's at Wharton,
Speaker 4: and I said, Okay, this is my plan, and we're
Speaker 4: going to live together. You know, we hadn't lived together
Speaker 4: for maybe over a decade. Now everything's going to come
Speaker 4: full circle. We're going to live together. And then I started,
Speaker 4: so why I put on Tinder and I saw this
Speaker 4: one lovely chap and we connected and the rest is history.
Speaker 4: Because I remember he said to me, he's eleven eleven
Speaker 4: years my senior, obviously and established in his profession. He said,
Speaker 4: you can't keep getting these degrees.
Speaker 3: You need experience.
Speaker 4: I was like, what what do you mean? He was like,
Speaker 4: you need to get some work experience. You need to
Speaker 4: get a job. And I'm like, this is I was
Speaker 4: twenty right, I was like a job.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 4: I was hoping to like stay in school for a
Speaker 4: couple more years because school school for me was very easy,
Speaker 4: you know. So I took his advice and I still studied.
Speaker 4: I still I did the GMAT. I still put myself
Speaker 4: in a position whereby I have a score that allows
Speaker 4: me to apply for any school if I wanted to.
Speaker 4: But let me get a job. And I got my
Speaker 4: first job in the United States, and then the job,
Speaker 4: the job I was in west Lake Village. He lived
Speaker 4: in the valley. My mom's apartment was in Glendale. You know,
Speaker 4: I hadn't got my license at this time, so I
Speaker 4: was ubering to my job. It didn't really make sense financially.
Speaker 4: So I remember one day I stayed at his place
Speaker 4: and I was like, I was leaving. I did it
Speaker 4: for about five six days, and I remember I came home.
Speaker 4: I came to his place one day after work because
Speaker 4: he lived twenty minutes away from my job, and he
Speaker 4: just had a key.
Speaker 3: He was like, do you want this? Like sure, okay.
Speaker 4: So my mom was moving into a new role in
Speaker 4: a different state, and I had already moved in.
Speaker 3: Honey, I hadn't moved in. It was like three months in.
Speaker 3: I had moved. I had moved in.
Speaker 4: I went back to the apartment which my brother lived,
Speaker 4: and my brother lived up with my mom's apartment, and
Speaker 4: I just came in one day. My mom wasn't around.
Speaker 4: That one suitcase. I threw everything in it. I said me,
Speaker 4: I said, peace. But you know what, I'm a planner,
Speaker 4: I said, do you know what I'm gonna do? And guys,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you some free game right now. I
Speaker 4: shouldn't say this. Please forgive me. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 4: some free games. So everything to me is planning and
Speaker 4: being smart. So I said, what am I to lose
Speaker 4: moving in with this man whom I've just met, right,
Speaker 4: Because what I'm going to do is I got a
Speaker 4: full time job and making decent money. I must save
Speaker 4: all of it because I have a contingency plan if
Speaker 4: this doesn't work out. I'm no longer sleeping on the
Speaker 4: sofa because I'm sleeping the sofa my UM's place because
Speaker 4: it was the two bedroom apartment and my mum would
Speaker 4: stay in one when she's around, and my brother would
Speaker 4: say that other as I was. I was the strangler
Speaker 4: that came from the UK and just was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 4: can you house me? They were like yeah, sure. The
Speaker 4: sofa very uncomfortable. So I was like, okay, you got
Speaker 4: a better living situation because now you have a bed, you.
Speaker 3: Have groceries that are paid for by.
Speaker 4: Someone else, and when you get your checks every two weeks,
Speaker 4: you can just save it because if this doesn't work out,
Speaker 4: then you're not going back to the sofar.
Speaker 3: You're going to get your own partner. Bitch.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's free game and good game. That's very smart.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so then obviously it works out and all
Speaker 4: the money I saved that ended up buying him a
Speaker 4: Rolex with.
Speaker 2: Bitch you you better, you better, bitch you better.
Speaker 1: Is he the first white guy you dated?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Were you.
Speaker 1: Like, were you surprised? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Were you surprised or did you did you want to
Speaker 2: experience something new after leaving the UK and leaving that
Speaker 2: relationship you had.
Speaker 3: I think I just became more open.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I just got to a point where in
Speaker 3: my life where I was like, always date. I always
Speaker 3: date the thugs.
Speaker 4: I always love myself a little roadman. I either dated
Speaker 4: like road men or like my my ex African Nigerian.
Speaker 4: I love African men, you know, I just love my culture.
Speaker 4: So it was always the guys that everybody wants, everybody
Speaker 4: wants them.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 4: I said, Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea, what is it you
Speaker 4: want in this life? I said, I want someone that's
Speaker 4: loyal to me. I want someone that loves me, wants
Speaker 4: someone that respects me, and I want someone that loves
Speaker 4: me for me at all times. You know, because I'm very,
Speaker 4: very quirky and a little bit. Just there's multiple sides
Speaker 4: to me, and I found myself creating this pattern relationships
Speaker 4: where it would be like.
Speaker 3: You're too loud, or you talk back.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you mean I'm talking back. I'm
Speaker 4: just giving my opinion. You voiced yours. It's my turn,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: But come on.
Speaker 4: So I thought, let me just open the gates and say,
Speaker 4: whoever comes my way, and whoever seems like good vibes
Speaker 4: and good energy, I can start dating.
Speaker 3: And that's basically what happened. Whereas before I was like.
Speaker 1: Ah, no, yeah, no, Alessa.
Speaker 2: I try to Sorry, fellas, but I do tell a
Speaker 2: lot of my black female friends who are single start
Speaker 2: dating outside your race. You just you just you just
Speaker 2: don't know. You don't know. You can't be restricted when
Speaker 2: it comes to dating. What was your parents reaction when
Speaker 2: you brought the white man home child? Oh?
Speaker 3: My mom said, wow, can he be? My husband.
Speaker 4: Loved My mom loved him more than I loved it.
Speaker 4: She loved him so much, she said, that's my daughter.
Speaker 4: My mom was so happy, she was gassed.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I.
Speaker 4: Think she wanted to for herself. But no, my my
Speaker 4: mom was so happy. I didn't really get my dad's
Speaker 4: thoughts on it, because I tried to keep me and
Speaker 4: my dad with We have a very litrue relationship. My
Speaker 4: dad used to used to be in the military. It's
Speaker 4: very much like, so, how was your day, So like
Speaker 4: my dad still pretends he doesn't know I have a
Speaker 4: boob job. He acts so like oblivious to like everything,
Speaker 4: like I'll.
Speaker 3: Post the way he communicated. My dad texts me.
Speaker 4: He was like, I just want to let you know
Speaker 4: I'm very proud of you. You represented very well on
Speaker 4: selling suddet. It's like nothing about my outfits fape. He
Speaker 4: doesn't mention anything that's like, I'll post something that's a
Speaker 4: little bit risque on Instagram. My dad likes and comments
Speaker 4: on like most of my things on Instagram, the ones
Speaker 4: that are a bit riskue. He just pretend you didn't
Speaker 4: see it. He'll never even mention it to me, and
Speaker 4: I love. I love that far a relationship. So I
Speaker 4: don't know how his initial thoughts on me and me
Speaker 4: and my partner, but I can only imagine what they
Speaker 4: would have been.
Speaker 3: He said, hey, lord, this one's gonna leave her.
Speaker 4: Because I think growing up in an African household and
Speaker 4: not seeing many like in trade relationships, you just assume
Speaker 4: they wouldn't work. You just I think it was just
Speaker 4: an assumption that, like, how would it work. And I
Speaker 4: think my dad probably just had those initial fears, although
Speaker 4: he never voiced them. He was very, very respectful, but
Speaker 4: I can imagine. But I think once everybody met him,
Speaker 4: they were like, Okay, they saw it immediately because they're like,
Speaker 4: he's so smitting over her.
Speaker 2: See, I'm telling you, I listen. Obviously I haven't met
Speaker 2: him in person. The fact that your parents met him
Speaker 2: in person and felt that way instantly, and I just
Speaker 2: tell you, two minutes ago, I'm watching the show and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if you know this girl,
Speaker 2: but he loves you down It's so obvious that obviously
Speaker 2: you love him too, but he is smitten by you.
Speaker 2: And I'm happy that you found love because when you
Speaker 2: exit an abusive relationship, I know that sometimes it can
Speaker 2: be scary to give your heart to another man in
Speaker 2: fear that he may turn around and do the same
Speaker 2: things to you your previous boyfriend did. So the fact
Speaker 2: that you found your prince Charming who turned to be
Speaker 2: your knight enshrining armor and now your husband, and just
Speaker 2: because it may not have looked like what you thought
Speaker 2: on paper.
Speaker 1: You gave love a chance and we.
Speaker 2: See this happiness that you have right now, and listen, girl,
Speaker 2: you did that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I'm a big believer in energy.
Speaker 4: And this is why I'm so like, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: so pro happiness and pro love because you never know,
Speaker 4: you know, like you genuinely never know. When you just
Speaker 4: connect with someone and I think. I meet so many
Speaker 4: of my friends and they're like, oh, I think I
Speaker 4: want to date outside of my rage.
Speaker 3: Should I do it? And I'm like, God, do it.
Speaker 3: And then they kind of like they're like, actually, no,
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: They just immediately have the resistance and I'm like, you
Speaker 4: haven't even tried.
Speaker 3: You have no idea. Listen.
Speaker 4: I love my black men, love I love my black women,
Speaker 4: I love I love people in general.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not a race thing.
Speaker 4: It's just finding the energy that messages with yours irrespective
Speaker 4: of race.
Speaker 3: And yes, are there challenges, of course?
Speaker 4: Are there certain things that you're going to have to
Speaker 4: explain and get them to understand. Absolutely, Will they ever
Speaker 4: feel some of the weight of the world that.
Speaker 3: You feel being black in America? Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: But All relationships have challenges, they all do, and they
Speaker 4: come in different forms.
Speaker 3: So what challenge is easier for you? My challenge?
Speaker 4: The challenge that I don't even see as a challenge
Speaker 4: is communication and understanding and explanation.
Speaker 3: You want to hear me.
Speaker 4: This is how I'm feeling, and then talk up for me,
Speaker 4: my white king, because.
Speaker 3: They gonna listen to you.
Speaker 1: Okay, I love you.
Speaker 2: Selling Sunset. You came on and we immediately saw this
Speaker 2: share dion relationship, like the movie Clue is between you
Speaker 2: and Christine. Did the producers introduce you to Christina and
Speaker 2: say this is your girl, who's going to introduce you
Speaker 2: to the rest of the cast?
Speaker 4: No, So everything you saw that transpired on that scene
Speaker 4: is exactly how it transpired in real life. The first
Speaker 4: time I've ever laid my eyes on the magical Christine
Speaker 4: is truly in that moment when I say hi, I'm
Speaker 4: Chelsea LASCARTI petrified as hell, like, oh my gosh, this
Speaker 4: woman's so tall and beautiful, What the am I doing here?
Speaker 4: That is exactly how it played out. I was actually
Speaker 4: just previewing the house, as you saw. I was brought
Speaker 4: in to preview this beautiful house.
Speaker 3: I had no idea it was going to be there.
Speaker 3: I had no idea of me.
Speaker 4: Thought maybe it was just going to be like a
Speaker 4: solo scene with just myself so they could test me
Speaker 4: out on camera because I'd never been tested out on
Speaker 4: camera before. I'd never been tested out on camera before,
Speaker 4: so they had no idea whether I was.
Speaker 3: Just going to be like or I was gonna be
Speaker 3: like They had no idea.
Speaker 4: That was the first time there was a camera in
Speaker 4: front of me.
Speaker 3: And I'm walking through.
Speaker 4: This house and I remember I got out, I got
Speaker 4: out of my car, cameras were rolling already, and I
Speaker 4: walk into the open house. I'm walking into the brokers
Speaker 4: open rather and I'm like this and I just hear someone.
Speaker 3: Saying, Chelsea, you're work.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Chelsea, You're walking into a brokers open look excited.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I am, I am.
Speaker 4: This is happening. This is real life, but this is
Speaker 4: also TV. But this is real life. You're walking into
Speaker 4: a Brokeers open. What is your reaction. You're interested in
Speaker 4: the house, been here before, You're looking at the views,
Speaker 4: You're looking at the ceiling, You're looking you're looking at
Speaker 4: their appliances.
Speaker 3: But there's cameras.
Speaker 4: And I just walked in and I said, all right,
Speaker 4: you got this and that's that scene.
Speaker 1: Do you miss having Christine on the show?
Speaker 4: You know what I do and don't, and I say
Speaker 4: I do and don't because of two reasons.
Speaker 3: I'm very much let go and let God person.
Speaker 4: So any beef you ever seen me, have any disagreement,
Speaker 4: I'm always willing to resolve it and move forward. We
Speaker 4: may not be best of friends, but I'm always willing to
Speaker 4: coexist in the room with you whereby we both feel
Speaker 4: comfortable and both can have a good time at all
Speaker 4: times because we're going to see each other.
Speaker 3: We work for the same brokerage.
Speaker 4: So the reason why I say I don't first is
Speaker 4: because it became very difficult for some of the ladies
Speaker 4: and Christine to be in the same room. And as
Speaker 4: someone who was friends with Christina loved her dearly and
Speaker 4: started to build friendship with the other girls and start
Speaker 4: to love them dearly, I was always an awkward position
Speaker 4: because I never really knew where to stand. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I want to be with you, but I want to
Speaker 4: be with you, but you guys can't come together. It
Speaker 4: was difficult as someone that is also new and trying
Speaker 4: to establish trust with amongst everybody to navigate that because
Speaker 4: a lot of the disagreements happened way before I was
Speaker 4: even a part of the show, so there was no
Speaker 4: reconciliation that I could do. It was more so like
Speaker 4: just trying to like manage it so that people felt
Speaker 4: like I still had loyalty towards you. But I can
Speaker 4: still have loyalty towards you even though you guys don't
Speaker 4: see eye to eye.
Speaker 3: And then I say I do because Christine's a bad bitch.
Speaker 3: Bad bitch.
Speaker 4: Don't use that term frequently. She's the type of person
Speaker 4: that walks in the room, commands the room, and makes
Speaker 4: you laugh. While she's commanding the room. She has a
Speaker 4: presence that like, I'm still in our bi quite honest,
Speaker 4: I think her presence is fantastic and i'd love I
Speaker 4: can't wait to see what she's doing next. So I
Speaker 4: missed that energy together because there's something really special about
Speaker 4: being with someone that makes you want to step.
Speaker 3: Up your game. You know. You know they say you're
Speaker 3: the average of the five.
Speaker 1: To me.
Speaker 4: When I was with Christine, I'm like, I'm film with Christine,
Speaker 4: all right, Cool, get all the resources we're really doing
Speaker 4: it today. So I love people that make me uncomfortable
Speaker 4: and make me feel like I need to level up.
Speaker 3: And she's she's That's who she is to me.
Speaker 2: I feel like Christine did to Selling Sunset what Erica
Speaker 2: Jane did to the Baiverley Hills Housewives, which is everybody
Speaker 2: stepped their fashion game up undeniably, undeniably, like even Mary
Speaker 2: and I love Mary, and Mary's on the podcast too,
Speaker 2: like she stepped it up a great deal. Amanda's choices
Speaker 2: with the gloves, it's you need.
Speaker 3: To each their own.
Speaker 4: I'm so I feel like so most people have stylists
Speaker 4: on the show. I think most of the girls have stylists.
Speaker 4: I do not have stylists, So I tend not to
Speaker 4: comment on people's fashion because a lot of them. When
Speaker 4: I watch the show back seven eight months after filming it,
Speaker 4: I'm like, what.
Speaker 3: The hell you were in Chelsea?
Speaker 4: Come on, what were you thinking on that particular day?
Speaker 4: Is someone that dressed themselves And I literally pulled my wardrobe.
Speaker 4: My wardrobe starting to look like NeiMa Marcus at this point,
Speaker 4: but still my wardrobe, I'm like, what was he thinking?
Speaker 4: So when I see the other girls and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't really quite like their style and stuff. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I know they're going through the same thing that I'm
Speaker 4: going through. We got we're filming four times this week.
Speaker 4: We're like, we need four unique ouvers. Okay, so this
Speaker 4: looks good, but we need to add a little bit
Speaker 4: of pizaz.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe let's add a glove.
Speaker 4: Let's add a glove, you see, Let's add some crystals
Speaker 4: to the hair.
Speaker 3: Let's add of like the ribbon. We're going to add
Speaker 3: whatever to give.
Speaker 4: The za because we're like, people want to see fashion.
Speaker 4: This day was not fashion, but we made it fashion
Speaker 4: because we added socks and a glove and a bow.
Speaker 2: Done and like you said, works for some, for others
Speaker 2: is debatable.
Speaker 1: What has gone on between you and Brie?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: I like Bre.
Speaker 3: I like her tea.
Speaker 2: What you guys got past the Nick Canna situation, the
Speaker 2: whole baby father thing.
Speaker 1: Are you too just all in water?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: Personally. I can't speak for her. I like her, and
Speaker 4: I liketually like her a lot. I've connected with her
Speaker 4: a couple of times recently. I think for myself, I
Speaker 4: came in and I came very strong with judgments because
Speaker 4: I had these I'm not gonna pretend like I wasn't
Speaker 4: aware of who she was or who her baby father was.
Speaker 4: This wasn't a secret, and I didn't want to be
Speaker 4: the to pretend like it was. Because myself and a
Speaker 4: lot of the girls, we had all spoken about it,
Speaker 4: like because you find out there's going to be someone
Speaker 4: new on the cast and you're.
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god. We're all like yeah.
Speaker 4: So I think for myself because I had spoken so much,
Speaker 4: and I think I was allowed speaker about it when
Speaker 4: the camera started rolling.
Speaker 3: I didn't want anybody.
Speaker 4: To question how genuine I was in my integrity because
Speaker 4: I had spoken about it. So I felt like I
Speaker 4: had to voice it to her. There was this overbearing
Speaker 4: feeling that I had spoken about it. I need to
Speaker 4: speak about it to you directly, because the only time
Speaker 4: that I would see her was when we were filming,
Speaker 4: because we hadn't we didn't know each other, we weren't friends.
Speaker 4: And then it spiraled, and it spiraled so fast because
Speaker 4: I spoke about it. We spoke about in the office,
Speaker 4: and I spoke about it once where I related some
Speaker 4: information that I shouldn't have relayed, and then everyone else
Speaker 4: kept speaking about it and asking, So Chelsea, you mean
Speaker 4: to say you're not going to be friends of Brie
Speaker 4: because you don't agree with her situation.
Speaker 3: So Chelsea, why don't you like Brie? Again?
Speaker 4: So Chelsea, didn't you say this about her partner? So
Speaker 4: chell And then I'm not a silent person. I'm not
Speaker 4: just gonna sit there and plead the fifth Like I
Speaker 4: also hadn't built a relationship personally with her. I'd seen
Speaker 4: her only times I had seen her the times you
Speaker 4: saw me see her while we're filming, so what five
Speaker 4: six times? And noncommunicative to one another. So you'd ask me,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, everything happens in such a short space
Speaker 4: of time two three, four, five weeks, like we form
Speaker 4: a season, very short space of time. You ask me
Speaker 4: these questions, and I'm like, so you're her friend. You
Speaker 4: want me to drop it. You don't want this to
Speaker 4: be a storyline, but you're asking me questions about it.
Speaker 3: So watching the season back, it was very hard to
Speaker 3: watch because I was disappointed in myself because I was like, Nah,
Speaker 3: that's that's not the person you want to be, Like
Speaker 3: you don't want to be the person that's harshly passional
Speaker 3: judgment on someone's life. You don't know what their story.
Speaker 3: You don't know what they've walked people don't know what
Speaker 3: you've walked through.
Speaker 4: But then I watched it more and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 4: I started talking about episode one and two from three
Speaker 4: to ten, y'all came to me with it, and I
Speaker 4: would just respond you wanted me to be quiet, But
Speaker 4: you're asking me a question about it.
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
Speaker 4: If you're forming and building this relationship and you know
Speaker 4: it's something that's very uncomfortable for it, don't be asked
Speaker 4: me questions because I'm also paid to talk just like you.
Speaker 2: What does Cassandra know, Barbrie that she keeps running from
Speaker 2: scene to scene, running away, taking up from microphone? What
Speaker 2: does Cassandra know the road of the street is?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Were they a part of some other agency that doesn't
Speaker 2: sell real estate? Listen, that doesn't sell real estate, but
Speaker 2: they may sell something else.
Speaker 4: So I can't speak for that, to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: like I can only speak for what I know about Cassandra.
Speaker 4: That was wild, this whole thing, like it's everybody's so confused.
Speaker 4: It was so wild, Like truthfully, it was so wild.
Speaker 4: And again another decision where I'm like, Chelsea, you dumb
Speaker 4: fucking bitch. I'm sorry to use profanity. I was like,
Speaker 4: you dumb fucking bit. Could you not see through that shit?
Speaker 4: So I'm missus friendly. You saw me today for the
Speaker 4: first time. That's I'm an aquarius, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I'm air.
Speaker 4: I just I just exist in spaces, and I'm like water.
Speaker 3: I love to have a good time. I love people.
Speaker 4: So I assume when I meet Cassandra and she's speaking
Speaker 4: to everybody, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 3: This is the new girl that's going to be joining
Speaker 3: the O group.
Speaker 4: She's pretty, she seems smart, she seems welcoming in like
Speaker 4: kind of very complimentary of me, all right, So I
Speaker 4: was really excited. I was genuinely like excited. Then when
Speaker 4: I heard, like the first thing I heard was herself
Speaker 4: and Brie knew each other, like they knew each other,
Speaker 4: but they didn't have any beef. There was no beef,
Speaker 4: but they knew each other. And Brie wasn't being so
Speaker 4: welcoming or nice to her at the in car. But
Speaker 4: at the first brokers open that we were all at,
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, she's.
Speaker 3: Not a friendly us bitch. I was like, you don't
Speaker 3: have to tell me, I've seen it. I mean, she
Speaker 3: ain't nice.
Speaker 4: That's my that was my vibe. People were reading so
Speaker 4: deep into it. But I was kind of like, she
Speaker 4: told you herself, she's not a nice bitch. I'm just
Speaker 4: reiterating what she said and conferring with somebody that's told
Speaker 4: me that she gave them the same energy.
Speaker 3: It was like bet So.
Speaker 4: Then as it went on and I could see there
Speaker 4: was actually a rift between them, I was like, Okay.
Speaker 4: I was like, it can't be that deep. Because it
Speaker 4: was that deep, everyone would know about.
Speaker 3: It because.
Speaker 4: She's had to be on a process where you've signed
Speaker 4: off like paperwork to be here into film, right, it
Speaker 4: can't be that serious. So knowing in my mind knowing that, Okay,
Speaker 4: she's probably gonna be on the show, we're going to dinner,
Speaker 4: come along, Like it's not that deep because she's also
Speaker 4: telling me like there's no beef.
Speaker 3: There's no beef. So I'm like, come along, come along.
Speaker 4: Bree may not be friendly when you first meet her,
Speaker 4: but give her a little bit tequila. She's gonna be
Speaker 4: so so sweet because I've seen her. She's really she
Speaker 4: can be really bubbly and friendly, like I like that.
Speaker 4: But I love that side of her, and the more
Speaker 4: I get to know her, the more I see it
Speaker 4: instantly when I first meet her, so I'm like, come
Speaker 4: on over. So it wasn't until Carbo when Cassandra mentioned
Speaker 4: something about, well, if you were nice, you would have
Speaker 4: a ring, and I said, I said.
Speaker 3: There's definitely something more here. There's definitely something more.
Speaker 4: Carbo ends kind of two. Finale was just like days.
Speaker 4: We're at the finale. Bearing in mind, guys, everyone wants
Speaker 4: to say, Chelsea, you invite Cassandra everywhere, please, I beg
Speaker 4: that's not the case. Okay, Jason invited her to the penthouse,
Speaker 4: not the Penthouse, the finale brokerage open party, and.
Speaker 3: She doesn't know many people there. She knows me, and
Speaker 3: I'm just like okay.
Speaker 4: I also not to say I forgot about the drama
Speaker 4: that happened in Carbo, but it wasn't really Jarma. It
Speaker 4: was more so Cassandra saying to me, Bree's not the
Speaker 4: friendliest person. I was like, okay, bet she's not, but
Speaker 4: that's not the craziest thing in the world. No, you
Speaker 4: just met her same way. I was getting to know her.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a major dig It's just like she's kind
Speaker 4: of bitchy. I was like, I meet people that kind
Speaker 4: of bitchy every single day.
Speaker 3: Moving on, you know.
Speaker 4: So we get to the finale party and I see Cassandra.
Speaker 4: I bring her over to the girls and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: bring her. I'm like, okay, guys, can we just like
Speaker 4: squash this? Like like what none of you have actually
Speaker 4: told me if there's actually any beef. Both of you
Speaker 4: kind of like you kind of knew each other, you
Speaker 4: don't really know each other. But Caussant just kind of
Speaker 4: coming on strong and Breeze kind of like leaping alone,
Speaker 4: like just get out of my space. And I'm kind
Speaker 4: of like, well.
Speaker 3: She's gonna be here because she may be on the show,
Speaker 3: so like maybe we should just kumbaya.
Speaker 4: And then I'm sitting down and I'm like, what what's
Speaker 4: going on?
Speaker 3: Why are they screaming at each other?
Speaker 4: It was so loud in the place, and obviously when Mike,
Speaker 4: but I'm like, what are they even saying? Like I
Speaker 4: literally you saw me in the cup. I was sipping
Speaker 4: my drink, so I was just like, the fuck, cool.
Speaker 3: Just don't direct it to me.
Speaker 4: So that that was the first time I realized there
Speaker 4: was more to the story.
Speaker 3: It was only after that I called Bri.
Speaker 4: And you know, me and Brie, we weren't entirely on
Speaker 4: the same page or friends per se. But I was
Speaker 4: so confused that I had to call her and say,
Speaker 4: what's going on?
Speaker 3: What's what's what happened? Like what have I missed out on?
Speaker 4: Because I know I'm going to receive a lot of
Speaker 4: brunt for the fact that I keep bringing her around.
Speaker 4: But I had no idea that it was this deep,
Speaker 4: and no one told me, and Cassandra told me there
Speaker 4: was no beef.
Speaker 3: There was nothing there. So like, I'm genuinely confused.
Speaker 4: And I also maybe thought that, like bribing her natural
Speaker 4: demeanor and persona not being so friendly off the bat,
Speaker 4: you kind of have to get warm up to get
Speaker 4: to know her. I was just like, she's just being herself.
Speaker 4: Once she gets to know that you actually are a
Speaker 4: nice person. If you are actually a nice person, it's
Speaker 4: going to be water under the bridge.
Speaker 1: Did she ever tell you what the is? She was, Bri?
Speaker 3: Not really. She just told me, like that bitch.
Speaker 2: There's something deep going on, and we're gonna move on
Speaker 2: because only got to go in a second. But a
Speaker 2: part of me felt like, is Bree dangling this carrot
Speaker 2: of whether or not she's going to continue the show
Speaker 2: or stay on the show, I mean, or leave the
Speaker 2: show has to deal with whether or not Consigndra would
Speaker 2: be a cast member.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean Brie.
Speaker 4: Brie is a hustler. She seems very street smart and
Speaker 4: business smart. Selling sunsets a massive opportunity. I don't know
Speaker 4: many people that will willingly leave selling sunset because it
Speaker 4: helps our business real estate a lot. So I think
Speaker 4: she's going to figure out what works best for her.
Speaker 3: And her family and her businesses, don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think she'd allow someone else to take her
Speaker 4: off her game.
Speaker 1: Good. We love you, Brie.
Speaker 2: Stay on this show because I'm want you and Chelsea
Speaker 2: to be the sharing Dion of the show. I love
Speaker 2: I loved two bad bitches. I just love it bon gorgeous.
Speaker 2: I love her like stay on the show, Breed. It
Speaker 2: ain't that deep. I love you, okay, really quickly. When
Speaker 2: you're in these white spaces, is it hard for you
Speaker 2: to be in the in these worlds holding it down
Speaker 2: as the black girl in these white spaces on the show?
Speaker 3: Very much?
Speaker 4: Yeah, very much? That I've struggled a lot. Often don't
Speaker 4: feel heard or seen. I feel like when I am heard,
Speaker 4: I'm misheard. And I feel like a lot of my
Speaker 4: mannerisms and my natural dialect, my natural personality and personas
Speaker 4: always misconstrued, and my intentions are always so pure, like
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm very much a lover. I have no
Speaker 4: malice in my home for anyone in this world, and
Speaker 4: I will forgive anyone we can have, we can argue,
Speaker 4: we can argue right now, and I'll love you again
Speaker 4: in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: It's just my personality. I'm very direct and very blunt.
Speaker 4: It could be that British, you know, people say British
Speaker 4: people have this charm where they just kind of have
Speaker 4: verbal diary and say what's in their mind. But I
Speaker 4: struggle so much because I'm trying to be my authentic
Speaker 4: self and there are undertones of like Chelsea's aggressive, or
Speaker 4: Chelsea's a bully, or Chelsea's mean, and I'm like, never
Speaker 4: in my life, up until coming a.
Speaker 3: Reality TV, I haven't ever heard that. I'm sorry. It
Speaker 3: makes me so sad.
Speaker 4: It makes me so sad, especially from sometimes from the girls,
Speaker 4: because my closest friends on the show are Krishelle and Emma,
Speaker 4: and they've leaned in and really gotten to know me,
Speaker 4: and they love me so much, and I love them
Speaker 4: so much. And we really support each and ride for
Speaker 4: each other, and we know our personality types. But never
Speaker 4: in my life I have ever been called a bully
Speaker 4: or mean or aggressive. So when I hear some of that,
Speaker 4: or I hear undertones of it from some of the
Speaker 4: other girls, and I'm just like, you've.
Speaker 3: Never really given me a chance. Everyone.
Speaker 4: It's like, if I say something, I'm aggressive or a mean.
Speaker 3: Or I came for this person.
Speaker 4: If someone says the exact same thing, she's just giving
Speaker 4: their her opinion.
Speaker 1: Like a man's who's black.
Speaker 2: But she's a biracial, light skinned black woman. So when
Speaker 2: she sends Chrishelle a very I'll say it an aggressive
Speaker 2: video message. They make amends in thirty seconds and then
Speaker 2: they move on.
Speaker 4: But I would have been annihilated. I wouldn't be able
Speaker 4: to continue. But I don't move like that. I also
Speaker 4: don't move like that because I don't have I don't
Speaker 4: have the space to move like that.
Speaker 3: I don't have.
Speaker 4: The ability to move in that way. And that's why
Speaker 4: I try to keep it as one hundred. But I
Speaker 4: also try to watch my tone, So I try to
Speaker 4: watch my body language. I'm very cognizant of things that
Speaker 4: I never was cognizant of before. So now when I'm filming,
Speaker 4: I often find myself like sitting there and being like
Speaker 4: because I understand that when I'm not smiling, I look
Speaker 4: mean or I may look angry. I pick up on things,
Speaker 4: and I don't want that to be a I don't
Speaker 4: want that to be a trope for black women in
Speaker 4: real estate or black women anywhere. I really want to
Speaker 4: do my best to represent in the best way possible.
Speaker 4: So I know that I'm not just doing this for Chelsea.
Speaker 4: I'm doing this for anyone that wants to be in
Speaker 4: real estate, or anyone that looks like me, or anyone
Speaker 4: that's inspired to crush it at anything.
Speaker 3: So I try to.
Speaker 4: Make sure that I show other sides of my personality too.
Speaker 4: When you see me being bubbly and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: it's not I am that person, But I'm trying to
Speaker 4: show you that we are all multifaceted.
Speaker 3: We don't fit into one box, you know.
Speaker 4: And same way they see me stern in one moment,
Speaker 4: I'm so soft and gentle in another So give me
Speaker 4: space and give me grace for that, like you do
Speaker 4: everybody else. But I think in the industry, we are
Speaker 4: so used to seeing black women having to fight for themselves.
Speaker 3: So you're so used to seeing black.
Speaker 4: Women stern and strong, and I want to show myself
Speaker 4: soft and gentle because I am soft and gentle.
Speaker 2: No you are, And listen, this interview has been able
Speaker 2: to do that. It really has, And I wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure that you and I had on one on
Speaker 2: one and listen, this means the world to me that
Speaker 2: you did say yes. You did say yes, because not
Speaker 2: everybody wants to do a podcast because of you know,
Speaker 2: there's either this preconceived notion like you said, it's quick,
Speaker 2: and it's like because some podcasts those shaped to my industry,
Speaker 2: some podcasts are a little weird to where it's like
Speaker 2: it's a setup and they don't really know you, and
Speaker 2: they actually weird questions and you're like, this is a
Speaker 2: weird experience. While am I here and I create a
Speaker 2: reality with the King to be a safe space for
Speaker 2: people to get to know the real you.
Speaker 1: And as a huge fan.
Speaker 2: Of yours, I wanted to make sure that you have
Speaker 2: the floor so that people under knew. I'm sorry that
Speaker 2: people understood and saw the person behind the personality, and
Speaker 2: you displayed that in this interview today, and I thank
Speaker 2: you so much for doing that.
Speaker 3: You made me cry.
Speaker 1: I cry, but I want you to know.
Speaker 2: I want you to know that, and I hope you
Speaker 2: I hope you know that this was the intention of
Speaker 2: this and you you rocked it, and you keep you
Speaker 2: keep wearing them platform hills, making us proud when we
Speaker 2: say Chelsea, when we say Chelsea as we're watching the TV, like, bitch, give.
Speaker 1: These I'm about to be all wrapped. Give these girls,
Speaker 1: you know, fever bitch, and do it with a smile.
Speaker 2: And you're funny and you're bubbly. You make us laugh.
Speaker 2: My last question is what's next for you?
Speaker 1: Baby? What do you have going on? Because this is
Speaker 1: not the end of you, baby, You're just getting started.
Speaker 3: I'm just getting started.
Speaker 4: So I'm exploring my one of my earlier passions in life,
Speaker 4: which is cooking.
Speaker 3: I love to cook.
Speaker 4: I've been cooking for a very long time, so I've
Speaker 4: been honing on some cooking content and maybe there'll be
Speaker 4: something else that follows cooking in the future. But I
Speaker 4: just love being from the camera. I would love getting
Speaker 4: into like mentoring. I just I really want to connect
Speaker 4: with my ten year old self because there are so
Speaker 4: many of my ten year old selves out there that
Speaker 4: watch me, and I want to connect more with young
Speaker 4: women just like I was and just enjoy life and
Speaker 4: watch my kids grow and take care of my family
Speaker 4: and just be blessed. Continue to be blessed.
Speaker 2: And continue to get that else, commit and them sales
Speaker 2: and bring the motherfuck bell ring ray.
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