1 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Hello America, Happy Friday. 2 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to the latest edition, the weekend edition of Just 3 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: the News, No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon, as always, 4 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: reporting to you from the nation's capital, Washington, d C. 5 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: We have a little scoopy news to report to you. 6 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: Just literally five seconds before that teleprompter started working, we 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: got news that Bob Cheeley, one of the lawyers who 8 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: worked for President Trump, down in Georgia another places to 9 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: investigate whether there was any irregularities in the twenty twenty election, 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: that he's been granted a party. 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: He said, I mounted out on the air. 12 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: The President said he wanted to pardon Bob Cheeley so 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: no one could ever pursue him again or run up 14 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: his legal bills again. We're checking to see him. Other 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: figures in the January sixth, January twenty twenty investigations are 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: getting pardons today. 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: We'll keep you up to speed on that. But that 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: is some big news. 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, for those who were in the weaponization machinery previously 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: an ominous sign. As I mentioned to you last night 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: at the end of the show, the FBI and the 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: Justice Department under Pam Bondi cranking out some serious subpoenas. 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: About thirty have gone out in the last forty eight hours. 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: Some involved John Brennan in testimony he gave, and whether 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: it's accurate or not evolve other players in various pursuits 26 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump from Russia collusion all the way up 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: to January sixth and beyond. We're gonna keep on that 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: all week and long and give you a good update 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: on that, and hopefully by the time you wake up 30 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: on Monday morning, I think we'll have a good story 31 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: about who uses the FBI plane and how often, and 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: whether some of the things you see on the Internet 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: or news papers are accurate. We went and got the receipts. 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: You're gonna love what we have. Will cover that for 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: sure Monday night. With that, and I turned to my 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 2: amazing cost Amanda head because we've got some great guests, 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: including the chairman of the January sixth investigation, Barry Loudleman, 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: coming on. But Amanda's got a good feel on today's headlines, Amanda, 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: what you're working on. 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: Yes, First of all, I am very excited for that 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: information to come out because I have seen up and 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: down the internet people complaining about FBI Director Cash Betel 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: using that plane, and I'm just looking forward to seeing 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: a little bit of comparison. 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: Oh, you'll be surprised by the statistics, that's all I'll 46 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: tell you. 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I bet I won't be, though, now you won't be. 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: You're exactly right. 49 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: All right, everybody, Well, there may finally be a crack 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: in Washington's stalemate. 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. 52 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 3: Is signaling the Democrats might actually vote to end the 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: government shutdown. 54 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 4: But of course there is a catch. 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: He wants Republicans to agree to extend healthcare tax credits 56 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: for one year and open up quote broader talks. Doesn't 57 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: that sound a lot like DC code force Bend Moore 58 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: talk longer and fix less. And by the way, a 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: year extension potentially puts Congress beyond the midterm elections, when 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: Republicans could lose the majority or have an even slimmer majority. 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: Now. 62 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, down at the southern border, ICE just hit a 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: record high sixty six thousand illegal aliens in custody. That 64 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: is the highest number ever and it shows just how 65 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: overwhelmed our immigration system has become. Not while Democrats in 66 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: Congress fight over tax credits and handouts for insurance companies, 67 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: our agents are drowning in the chaos that Joe Biden 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: and his Democrat policies created. All right up in New York, 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: a major shakeup in state politics. GOP congresswoman and former 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: Conference chair Elist Stephonic is officially running for governor, taking 71 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: on Democrat Kathy Hochel. 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: Now, staphonics message is quite. 73 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: Simple, restore law and order, cut taxes, and make New 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: York safe again. After Democrat socialists o run Mom Donnie's election. 75 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 4: On Tuesday as the next mayor of New York. 76 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: City, I think that that whole state may be yearning 77 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: very soon for someone with a very different set of 78 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: goals and values. So while Washington are and the border 79 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: is slowly being fixed, at least when Republican is stepping 80 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: up to bring common sense back to America's Lewis states John, 81 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see that for her. I think she 82 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: would make a bang up governor in New York. 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 84 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: I know, as I'm sitting here, I'm reporting, and I'm 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: also able to confirm that Trump pardoned the former Tennessee 86 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: House speaker who had been convicted a couple of years 87 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: ago in a corruption case. I have a funny feeling 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: it could be a Friday parton night. We'll see or 89 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: pardon me, Friday night, how about that? 90 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: All right? I can't think of a better way to. 91 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: Get tonight's investigations or a discussion kicked off and to 92 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: turn back to a man who is relentlessly pursued the 93 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: truth when it comes to January sixth, the original stories 94 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: we were given, a lot of them were just simply 95 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: not true. And the more that Congressman Barry A. Loudim 96 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Chairman Burry lottamic I should say, digs into it, the 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: more we get some incredible truths. And I have a 98 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: sneaking suspicion, Amanda, he's got some new truths to deliver 99 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: to us tonight. Joining us the chairman of the House 100 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: Judiciary Special Committee. 101 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: On jen six German Arry A. Loudomich. So good to 102 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: have you on, John, Amanda. 103 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 5: As always, it's a pleasure to be with you, especially 104 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 5: during this timeframe when we have an administration that actually 105 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 5: wants to get to the truth. 106 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: It is amazing the amount of information that started flowing 107 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: and the truths that we're starting to get that we 108 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: were denied. 109 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: Now the last time we talked to you. 110 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: Were hoping to go in and take a look at 111 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: some of these informant reports. We had twenty six FBI 112 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: informants in the crowd, and it looks like they were 113 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: informing quite a bit beforehand. Now I know some of 114 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: this is classificed, you can't give us specifics, but were 115 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: those informants providing more stark information about the dangers that 116 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: could have happened. 117 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: On January sixth? And was that not getting to the 118 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: right people. 119 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 5: Well, that is the question that we had when first 120 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 5: of all that I went and I looked at redacting 121 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 5: copies of these confidential human sources reports, and then the 122 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 5: FBI stepped up and allowed me to come over to 123 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 5: the FBI building. And it's just it's actually been during 124 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 5: the shutdown that went over and was able to sit down. 125 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 5: And if there's a been any positive side of the shutdown, 126 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 5: it's that I've actually had more time to spend on 127 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 5: this investigation. So I spent a good part of the 128 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 5: day at the FBI looking at the underdactive reports. And 129 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 5: what we want to look for is what did the 130 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 5: FBI know, when did they know it, and what did 131 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 5: they do with the information, and what was the information? 132 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 5: And I can tell you equivalently, they had to know 133 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 5: that there was something not only bad going to happen, 134 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 5: but the reports coming from these confidential human sources, not 135 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: just one, multiple sources from multiple organizations, across multiple field 136 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 5: offices across the nation. We're reporting the same thing that 137 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 5: not only was there going to be violence in Washington, 138 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 5: d C. At the Capitol on January sixth, most of 139 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 5: the reports were it was going to be a whole 140 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 5: lot worse than what actually it turned out to be. 141 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: And so I was I suspected we would find information. 142 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 5: I was surprised that we found this significant intelligence that 143 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 5: was derived from these people embedded in these organizations. There 144 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 5: is no way that at least the Washington Field office 145 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: or the FBI headquarters was not aware that there were elements, 146 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: not the entire crowd, there were elements of people coming 147 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 5: to Washington, d C. With the intent of attacking the 148 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 5: capital of the United States. What I also found out 149 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 5: is that is really the only intelligence that we can 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: see that the FBI relied upon, Because I've asked several 151 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 5: times what other intelligence did they derive? Did they get 152 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: intelligence from other agencies like as Homeland Security, Department of Defense, 153 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 5: the CIA, the intelligence community as a whole, and the 154 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 5: interim getting is no. 155 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: And then my question was what. 156 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: Intelligence reports were sent out, And that's what we're looking 157 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 5: for right now because we're really having a hard time 158 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: finding really any tangible reports that were sent to the 159 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 5: Capitol Police or other agencies. And so my question is 160 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: what did they know, when did they know it? And 161 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: what did they do with the information? We do now 162 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 5: know what they did know, The question is what did 163 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 5: they do with it? 164 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: I want to just follow up quickly just from the 165 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: reporting I've done the last couple of weeks, it seems 166 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: to me that there might have been more suggestions that 167 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: there could be armed resistance, armed insurgency, armed insurrection that 168 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: these informants were hearing and telling the FBI. And two 169 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: I've also heard rumblings that maybe Antifa was a concern 170 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: that the FBI had on that day. Could you shine 171 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: any light without violating the confidences. 172 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 5: That you have to keep, right because the main thing 173 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 5: about the confidentiality here and the classification is protecting who 174 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 5: the sources are. Right, So the information, I think we're 175 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 5: at liberty to share the information that they had, And 176 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 5: you're exactly right, there were elements, not every group that 177 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 5: was there, but there were certain groups that were planning 178 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 5: on and armed tack of the capital and even against 179 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 5: law enforcement if they got in the way. And it's 180 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 5: not just isolated. It was again from several different places 181 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 5: across the United States and reported to several different field offices. 182 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 5: And so that is true. That's why I was saying 183 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 5: there was actually there should there should have been even 184 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 5: more security put in place. The National Guard should have 185 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 5: been at the Capitol the first time Chief of Police 186 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 5: Stevenson requested it, just based on that information. Of one 187 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 5: of my concerns about this, and I'm just going to 188 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 5: speak from my own self, and one of the one 189 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 5: of the things that I think we need to run 190 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 5: down is if they would have passed along this level 191 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 5: of intelligence, if they would have shared that level of intelligence, 192 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 5: would have had changed the security posture to the extent 193 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: where President Trump would not have come out and given 194 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 5: his speech at the Ellipse. Would it have its nificantly 195 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 5: change the security posture of everybody in Washington, d C. 196 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 5: That's something else I want to look into. Was there 197 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 5: a political motive by some to let some of this 198 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 5: play out? And we've talked about this before in the past. 199 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 5: So that's something else that I think we need to 200 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 5: look at because we have to decouple the politics from 201 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 5: our national security and the security of the American people 202 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 5: when there in Washington, d C. The other question you 203 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 5: ask about Antifa, the answer is yes, there was concerns 204 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 5: that Antifa would be embedded within the crowds there. There 205 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 5: were several references again not just isolated to one, but 206 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 5: several different different field offices, different different organizations that were 207 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 5: reporting that they had heard that Antifa would be embedded 208 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 5: within the crowd. 209 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: Goodness, gracious, mister chairman. 210 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: I think there's probably a good chance that I ask 211 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: you about this every time you're on here, But I 212 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: guess I seem like a dog with the bone. But 213 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: the footage and other materials and evidence that the previous 214 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: January sixth committee had that they destroyed. I know at 215 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 3: one point you had indicated that there was a chance 216 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: of getting that back, refabricating it from hard drives or 217 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. 218 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: What's the status of that. 219 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 5: We're still working on that. We've sent out a trove 220 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 5: of letters to even the production companies that helped with 221 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 5: the filming. They're telling us they don't have any of 222 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 5: they didn't keep any of it. They turned it over 223 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 5: to the January sixth Committee. So we're casting a broad net. 224 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 5: So far, we haven't caught anything. And I'm talking about 225 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 5: specifically the videos of all the depositions. I think that's 226 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 5: the If we could get that, it really turned the 227 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 5: tide on things that have been happening with the Select 228 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 5: Committee on January sixth. We're not stopping until we overturn 229 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 5: every rock in every possibility in this information age that 230 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 5: we're in. And I just have a hard time believing 231 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 5: that every piece of that has been destroyed. I think 232 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: there's probably some element of it somewhere. But I also 233 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 5: think is as we start uncovering more and we start 234 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 5: putting the pieces of this incredibly big puzzle together, people 235 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 5: are going to realize we're getting to the truth. And 236 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 5: I think you may start seeing some people coming out 237 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 5: of the shadows and it and helping us a little bit. 238 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 5: And I think you may see some of that coming 239 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 5: out pretty soon. 240 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: Just quickly, mister Chairman. 241 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: We all know it's no dirty secret that congressional staffers 242 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: it's kind of like musical chairs that just kind of 243 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: rotate between members of Congress. I'm sure you've reached out 244 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: to those former staffers of the former members of the 245 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: former January sixth committee. 246 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 5: Well, we have to the to the extent that we can. 247 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: There is a barrier that's put around staff let me 248 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 5: say that to some extent, but we have had some 249 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 5: that have been cooperative. We do have staff members that 250 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 5: have pointed us in the right direction. Let me say that, 251 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 5: in this voluntary they reach out to us. And so 252 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 5: I think that's probably where a lot of information is. 253 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 5: And I think as we uncover other elements, I explain 254 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 5: to people, this whole thing is like it's not a 255 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: jigsaw puzzle. Is if you took ten thousand piece puzzles 256 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 5: and you took all the pieces and you put them 257 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 5: in one box for ten different puzzles, shook them up 258 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: and threw them on the table, and now you've got 259 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 5: to put all the pieces for ten different puzzles together. 260 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 5: We've got some of those pieces starting to come together 261 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 5: in one puzzle. And as we start putting that together, 262 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: I think it helps other pieces to come together and 263 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 5: other people will step up and help us. And as 264 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 5: I said, I can't really divulge anything right now, but 265 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: we are starting to have some of those reach out 266 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 5: to us, informants that have new information that we had 267 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 5: not had privy to in the past. And I think 268 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: it's because they see that we're putting other pieces of 269 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 5: the puzzle together. 270 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: It's amazing what happens when you start a truth ball 271 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: that starts creating an avalanche down the hill. And we've 272 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: been denied some of the truth. I want to ask 273 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: one other questions of you. I think some would have thought, well, 274 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: those twenty six informants were put in the crowd to 275 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: create some mischief for one thing, But it looks like 276 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: just the opposite. 277 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: These informants. We're doing what we ask informants to do, warn. 278 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: Us, but the information they gave doesn't get to the 279 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: right hands to prevent the tragedy that occurred that day. 280 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: And is your sense that these informants were doing good work, 281 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: not nefarious work? And it's the Yeah, it's a failure 282 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: to get the information up the chain that perhaps hurt 283 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: us that day, Right. 284 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 5: It is, And they were doing and you know, and 285 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 5: I'm looking for it. I'm looking for certain things. Are 286 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: you having somebody, just one person that's coming out with 287 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 5: this rogue statement that isn't corroborated by anyone else. That's 288 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 5: not the case. You're seeing the same story playing out 289 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 5: in different versions across the entire country. And some you 290 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 5: can tell there's more vio violence threatened from certain areas, 291 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 5: but yet that's replicated in other places. They are all 292 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: reporting the same thing and it's just not prior to 293 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 5: January sixth. Some of them are reporting during January six 294 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 5: and post reporting, and so that's what I found enlightening, 295 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 5: is they continue to report what was going on, which 296 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 5: increases their credibility. In my opinion is that they were 297 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 5: trying to do the right thing. But there's a couple 298 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 5: of reports that I think we're going to hone into 299 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 5: a little more and a little deeper, and they relate 300 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 5: to what some groups were actually doing by going in 301 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 5: the Capitol or being around the capital. That's different than 302 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 5: what the Select Committee and the media has told us 303 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: that they were actually there to do. Look, I've never 304 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 5: been one of these that denied that there was violence. Yes, 305 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 5: there was violence at the Capitol, but yet some of 306 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 5: the were reoring is that maybe some of these groups 307 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 5: their intent was different. They were actually trying to help 308 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 5: the law enforcement hold back some of these people, but 309 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 5: yet they still got convicted. 310 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: Wow, that is some pretty powerful stuff, Sir. You just 311 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: are relentless in your pursuit of the truth, and I 312 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: think the country always a great debt of gratitude. We 313 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: have learned so much because of your determination to get 314 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: the American people the truth. It's a great honor to 315 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: have you on the show today. 316 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 5: Well, we appreciate you both being willing to get the 317 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 5: truth out. That's just something that has also been a 318 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 5: challenge that we faced is the news media that just 319 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 5: either they won't cover it or they will cover it 320 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 5: to push their own political agenda. 321 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: But we appreciate you getting the truth out. 322 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, facts have no agenda, and we're so grateful you've 323 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: been able to help us get that out there. 324 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: Sir. Thank you so much for joining us. All right, 325 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: thank you, God bless yeah, Wow, God bless you. Wow. 326 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: What an amazing stuff, Amanda. 327 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: The present's about to arrive, and I think we're going 328 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: to go to that footage in a second. It's obvious 329 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: that that was a bombshell interview. There is some big 330 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: stuff in him, much more serious warning that there was 331 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: going to be an arm resistance at the Capitol, at 332 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: the FBI Washington Field office, he said knew about and 333 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: doesn't get passed up the chain. Possibly that anti if 334 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: it was going to be the crowd to cause mischief. 335 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: And then post January sixth intelligence as some of the 336 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: people that went went in to help the law enforcement 337 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: but instead get there. Those are three extraordinary statements by 338 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: a thinking By the way, the reason I was able 339 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: to ask these questions, I've been reporting on this for 340 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: a couple of days. The January sixth narrative, I think 341 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: just took an extraordinary turn absolutely well. 342 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: And also the fact that it sounds like he's got 343 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: some staffers who are willing to actually come forward. I 344 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: would like to think that that's because truth will come 345 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: to light. But I also think that no one wants 346 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 3: to be left out in the cold when everyone else 347 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: is pussing up to what happened behind closed doors. 348 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 349 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there's less fear that you're going to be 350 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: retributed against you, which I think is another issue. All Right, 351 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: the president still in the landing phase. We're going to 352 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: get to that when we come back, but first we'll 353 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: get a quick commercial break. On the other side of this. 354 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: One of the great lawyers. I love to talk to 355 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: you whatever. I try to make sense of things. Former 356 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: US Attorney Bud Commings right after the break. 357 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody to just the news, new noise, big 358 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: developments tonight, and the ongoing Russiagate saga. A grand jury 359 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 3: has issued new subpoenas as the criminal case against former 360 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: FBI director James Comy moves closer to trial. 361 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: Our prosecutors say that fresh. 362 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: Evidence has come to light, linking key players in what 363 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: they are calling a coordinated effort to weaponize federal power 364 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 3: against President Donald Trump. Now, as we have talked about, 365 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 3: we've talked about this. 366 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 4: Many times on the show. 367 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 3: But before we bring in our guest, John, I know 368 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: you've got a statement that you. 369 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: Want to read. 370 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, the attorney, the Jorge attorney I told you at 371 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: the top of the show, got pard and he just 372 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: sent me a statement confirming it. Although I did not 373 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: have any idea that a presidential pardon was even being considered, 374 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: I want to thank in Trent for calling me and 375 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: telling me so. The presidently calls him and tells him 376 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: he's parting him that he was issuing a federal pardon 377 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: for my efforts to conduct an audit of the absentee 378 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: ballots of Fulton County in connection with the twenty twenty election. 379 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: The only thing I ever wanted was transparency from Fulton County. 380 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: At the county has nothing to hide, it should allow 381 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: DOJ to examine these ballots. But there are some pardons 382 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: dropping right now. We got two of them confirmed at 383 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: the top of the show. But this statement from Bob Cheey, 384 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 2: really prominent and well respected lawyer in Georgie who has 385 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: put through hell in the Fulton County episode. 386 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: So more news to come by Cardon Mike McMahon, who's 387 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: wife Martha McMahon, we had on the show to talk. 388 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: That's right, exactly right, Yeah, I forgot that. 389 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: All right, So let's have a pardon talk with former 390 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 3: US attorney as well as the person who actually alerted 391 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: the FBI to the Hunter Biden bribery allegations all the way. 392 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: Back in twenty eighteen. 393 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 3: One of our favorite lawyers to talk to, Bud Summon's Bud, 394 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: thanks so much for being here. 395 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, good to see. 396 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: You, Good to have you on this Friday night. And 397 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: a lot of folks who are delighted to hear that 398 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: President Trump has pardoned them I'm pretty sure the presid 399 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: and Trump signed them by hand. 400 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 6: Though. Yeah, I don't think we're going to do any 401 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 6: auto pin pardons with President Trump. I think he likes 402 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 6: to me he likes to have his fingerprints. 403 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: Right on it, absolutely, sir. 404 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 3: I want to dig into something that the magistrate judge 405 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: in Alexandria levied against the Department of Justice with this 406 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 3: trial happening for James Comedy here Comy across the river 407 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: in northern Virginia. She repudiated the DOJ, said that they 408 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: were indicting first and investigating later. She demanded any of 409 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: those grand jury materials and evidence be turned over to 410 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: Comey's team. I think it closed a business yesterday. Does 411 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: it seem to you like that's true that the DOJ 412 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: really did sling charges out there and then investigated later, 413 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: because you would have to have a lot of material 414 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: for a grand jury to even get the indictments in 415 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: the first place, wouldn't you. 416 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 6: Well, I don't want to get come on too strong 417 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 6: on this, because I think that there is a possibility 418 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 6: that they had not gathered all the information that was 419 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 6: probably available to them, and they got out front with 420 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 6: an indictment. The indictment was pretty simple. He lied and 421 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 6: he instructed justice, and that evidence was pretty straightforward. It 422 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 6: looks like that they're now gathering up other documents that will, 423 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 6: you know, kind of support the case, and the judge 424 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 6: may you know, may be onto something that they that 425 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 6: they are still investigating and still using the grand jury 426 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 6: to investigate, and there are limitations on that. 427 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. 428 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: So one of the things that we learned on Monday 429 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: and that explosive court filing, was that there is a 430 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 2: crime they're looking at having potentially occurred in January of 431 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: this year, long after Russia Gate was done. And according 432 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: to the electronic communication that the FBI opened that was 433 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: attached to the court filing on Monday, FBI personnel were 434 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: going in and out of a room apparently trying to 435 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: hide documents or put them in burn bags to be destroyed. 436 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: And the US government says, in its own words, some 437 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: of these documents had never before been seen or turned 438 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: over to response of agencies who had subpoened such information. 439 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: Does that sound like years after Russia geet or these 440 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 2: other things, there. 441 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: Might have been a coverup going on. 442 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 6: I think absolutely. You know that some of the people 443 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 6: that had their fingerprints on this going back to twenty sixteen, 444 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 6: twenty seventeen and on are still in the building, and 445 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 6: I'm sure there's still some sympathizers in the building. So 446 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 6: it wouldn't shock me at all to learn that people 447 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 6: have been trying to bury evidence. 448 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: What happens to. 449 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 3: Those employees if they are still with the department, what 450 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: happens to them, I mean, they get fired, right, but 451 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: in charges for them, I would like. 452 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 6: To think that there is, But I'm not seeing even 453 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 6: today FBI being very aggressive about internal investigations and punishment. 454 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 6: So I think that there's a natural tendency to circle 455 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 6: the wagons, even if you're cash. I mean, certainly we 456 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 6: saw Chris Ray do it. Once you're in the agency, 457 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 6: I think to some extent, there's a tendency to want 458 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 6: to minimize controversy and maybe not go looking for trouble. 459 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 6: So I'm not sure everybody's going to be held accountable 460 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 6: in these agencies. And that's really sad because they've done 461 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 6: such tremendous damage. 462 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a tremendous loss to the American 463 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: people who are owed this accountability after ten years of 464 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: fake scandals and. 465 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: Misuse of power. 466 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: You are one of my favorite stories because I saw 467 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: you as a US attorney. You had impeccable credentials. You 468 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: stood up in the face of other conduct in the government. 469 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: You always came out in the side of doing the 470 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: right thing. And in twenty eighteen nineteen, you come forward 471 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: because you have information from Ukraine that Hunter Biden may 472 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: not have paid his taxes on some of the drifting 473 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: money he got from the Ukrainian company. You bring it 474 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: to federal prosecutors. You are a really well respected former 475 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: US attorney. They don't pursue it, but you later learned 476 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: that you were retributed against and that you were actually 477 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: targeted for doing the right thing. Tell us what you 478 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: learned about the retribution that was going on behind your back. 479 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 6: Well, some of the companies like Apple and Google, when 480 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 6: they get a federal subpoena, they're prohibited from telling the 481 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 6: person that their information has been subpoena immediately, but they're 482 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 6: allowed to after some period of time. So years down 483 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 6: the road, I started getting notices that I'd been the 484 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 6: subject of subpoenas out of the Southern District of New York, 485 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 6: presumably related to me trying to offer the federal government 486 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 6: information about Hunter Biden. I've always said, I don't really 487 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 6: have a problem with them trying to take a look 488 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 6: at me and seeing who I'm talking to and what's 489 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 6: motivating me to come forward with this extraordinary offer of evidence. 490 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 6: I do have a problem with them ignoring the extraordinary 491 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 6: offer of evidence completely, which is what they did, and 492 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 6: then investigating me. But that's what happened, and beyond that, 493 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm still waiting for my friends in 494 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 6: the investigative journalism field to uncover all the details of 495 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 6: what happened and why. 496 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: All Right, we're going to work on this because this 497 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: is a big deal. 498 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: And you find out like four or five years after 499 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: the fact, right, you're in the dark for five years 500 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 2: that they were rifling. Yeah, that's just it's insane. You're 501 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: a former prosecutor. Was there anything that you did that 502 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: would have given you, as a prosecutor grounds to go 503 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: after yourself or to look at someone like you bringing 504 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: information forward? 505 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 6: Well, like I said, I mean I think it would be. 506 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 6: I would have been naturally wanted to know, well, you know, 507 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 6: who gave this information about it and ask him because 508 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 6: obviously they had it in their mind. It was ripe 509 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 6: throughout the agencies that there was some kind of conspiracy, 510 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 6: Russian collusion, whatever you want to call it. You know 511 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 6: was was were the Russians paying me to come forward 512 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 6: with some kind of fake allegations against Hunter Biden. I 513 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 6: don't have a problem with them trying to verify my credit, 514 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 6: but the way they turned a blind eye to the 515 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 6: offer of evidence is pretty pretty astounding. 516 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you, over your years in the law field 517 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 3: and working with the FBI hand in hand, I want 518 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: to ask you about something that you said a moment 519 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 3: ago about not wanting to stir the pot and not 520 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: want not wanting to bring about any type of scandal 521 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 3: for the FBI. Before Cash Mattel became the director, he 522 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: made a joke and he said afterwards that it was 523 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: a joke, but he said that he wanted to gut 524 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 3: the FBI building something to that effect, gut it and 525 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: turn it into a museum exposing the deep state. 526 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: Again, he was joking, but he does seem. 527 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: To have this this mentality that it is an agency 528 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: that needs to be cleaned out. 529 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: Does it surprise you that you haven't seen more. 530 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: Of those internal investigations bring forth some of those scandals 531 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: that maybe existed prior. 532 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: To his tenure. 533 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't blame him. They have had so 534 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 6: much on their plate. I think it's it's kind of 535 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 6: product of the deep state, the bureaucracy underneath him. I 536 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 6: think all those there's a real culture problem in FBI, 537 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 6: there's a real culture problem at DJ and that's what 538 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 6: he you know, when he makes his joke, that's what 539 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 6: needs to be cleaned out. And it probably would to 540 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 6: be done correctly, would take a pretty massive overhaul of 541 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 6: both of TJ and FBI. I don't know, if you 542 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 6: know he has the political capital and the time to 543 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 6: actually do that, and I know he's trying to do 544 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 6: his best. But you know, we talked about this before, 545 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 6: but I'm old enough to remember Watergate, and the most 546 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 6: serious allegation against Richard Nixon was that he was on 547 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 6: tape talking about asking CIA to help him politically. Asking 548 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 6: didn't get it, asked it, and that was that was 549 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 6: the straw that broke the Campbell's back. He had to 550 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 6: resign the presidency, and two or three generations have been 551 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 6: taught since that that was the worst political scandal of 552 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 6: our time. Well, now we have hard evidence that FBI 553 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 6: and CIA conspired to kneecap an incoming president of the 554 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 6: United States, and they successfully impeded his ability to govern 555 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 6: for at least two years, if not the entire first term. 556 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 6: Somebody needs to be held accountable for all that, and 557 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 6: it's going to take intensive investigation. But it's not political retribution. 558 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 6: If what Nixon did deserves to be in every high 559 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 6: school history book and big letters is the worst scandal 560 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 6: in political history. This certainly needs to be investigated and 561 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 6: documented because it's so much worse, and it's ruined the 562 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 6: image and the reputation and the credibility of federal law enforcement. 563 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: So we just got about forty five seconds left. You're 564 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: an allegation that you brought to them was that Hunter 565 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: Biden was cheating on his taxes, specifically on payments he 566 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: got from Barisma. Three four years later, when the whistleblowers 567 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: come forward and they confirm exactly what the information you 568 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 2: brought to prosecutors was accurate, that they had also confirmed 569 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: you had not paid taxes on as Brisma money. 570 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: What did you think, Well, when. 571 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 6: I offered the evidence, it was I had no idea 572 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 6: what it was or the background. I just knew that 573 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 6: there was a high level individual in Ukraine that was 574 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 6: offering to come tell the story and bring it and 575 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 6: bring documentary evidence. It sounded plausible to me at the time. 576 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 6: It was pretty bad, but it played out exactly like 577 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 6: it was it was presented to me in twenty eighteen. 578 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: Last four years at time, the sun, the moon, and 579 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: the truth eventually come out. 580 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: Hopefully that a lot of these other untruths that we've. 581 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: Been talking about come out in our lifetime, but you 582 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: never know. 583 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 4: Things take time. 584 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: Bud Cummins, always a pleasure having you here. 585 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 6: Thanks so much, good to see y'all. 586 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 7: Bye bye, absolutely all right, everybody, we're going to take 587 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 7: a quick break and we'll be back on the other side. 588 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back to America next week. We're going to give 589 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: you a really fun project we've been working on. Healthcare 590 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: companies make lots of money from Obamacare subsidies. In fact 591 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: that it's the driving source of their profits the last 592 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: ten years, and then they become increasingly more democratic donors. 593 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: We're rewarding the party they gave them those subsidies. We've 594 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: got a similar story for you to tell you right now. 595 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: Joining us to break it is the executive director of 596 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: protecting American consumers together. 597 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: Lauren'sl Lauren, great to have you back on the show. 598 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me. It's great to 599 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 8: be here. 600 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: I always love when we capture one of these you 601 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: scratch my back and I've pad your wallet stories. Trial 602 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: lawyers have a plan, they make some money on it, 603 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: and what do they do? Tell us the story of 604 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: lawfare against Trump and how it ends up in the Democratic. 605 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 8: Coffers certainly seeing new reporting from Legal News Line about 606 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 8: how trial attorneys, specifically billboard attorneys, the ones that you 607 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 8: see advertise on the highways and on your televisions in 608 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 8: your home, are targeting President Trump with lawsuits. And what 609 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 8: they do with this is they often end up turning 610 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 8: around and donating the profits from those lawsuits to Democrat politicians. 611 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 8: But how does it really work? You know, what we're 612 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 8: seeing is some attorneys are advertising themselves as Trump golf 613 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 8: course attorneys, or they're advertising a introductory kit on how 614 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 8: to sue a Trump property, and they're you know, they're 615 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 8: really into this for the profit. And what they do 616 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 8: then is they turn around and they donate it to 617 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 8: Democrat politicians. I have some stats for your audience in 618 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 8: twenty twenty four, two hundred and five million dollars was 619 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 8: donated to Democrats by trial attorneys or billboard attorneys and 620 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 8: particular including forty six point five million dollars specifically to 621 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 8: the Kamala Harris campaign. So those are some pretty significant numbers. 622 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 8: And Legal News Line is also reporting that about seventy 623 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 8: five percent of billboard attorneys donated to Harris as opposed 624 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 8: to President Trump in twenty twenty four. So it's a 625 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 8: system that they've created, almost from soup to nuts, sue 626 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 8: the president at one of his properties or at one 627 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 8: of his businesses, and turnaround and put it in the 628 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 8: pocket of Democrat politicians. 629 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I believe if we categorize lawyers, these are 630 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: the ambulance chasers of ambulance chasers. But when it comes 631 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: to the money that this drains from the American economy, 632 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: I mean, this is in the billions, and it affects everyday. 633 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: Americans, even people who are not involved in the suit. 634 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 8: That's exactly right. Unfortunately, this is costing the average American 635 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 8: family a lot of money. In twenty twenty two, lawsuit 636 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 8: abuse costs the average American family about forty two hundred 637 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 8: dollars a year. There are some states in which it's 638 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 8: higher that have more retigious environments. Delawarre's a state like that. 639 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 8: California is a state like that. In New York as well. So, unfortunately, 640 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 8: consumers that are living in these states are paying for 641 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 8: these lawsuits, whether they realize it or not, because the 642 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 8: amount of money that is draining from businesses that have 643 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 8: to pay for them and from our economy generally. 644 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, really remarkable, Lord, I want to ask a little 645 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: bit about how we begin to. 646 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: Fix the system. 647 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: It is clear that we've got weaponization problems inside the department, 648 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: we've got law fair departments outside of the law enforcement agencies. 649 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: Now we seem to have concerns about leaking judges who 650 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: are talking to the media and violation of their oaths 651 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: and ruling on their political interest rather than on the 652 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: constitutional grounds. How do we fix the system before we 653 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: spiral into a sort of unprecedented territory Banana Republic territory. 654 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 8: There are certainly some bright spots where fixing is happening 655 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 8: in the system. We've seen a lawsuit abuse reform pass 656 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 8: in Florida in twenty twenty three, and then just earlier 657 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 8: this year in Georgia in twenty twenty five. But there 658 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 8: is an opportunity to tackle this problem at the federal level. 659 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 8: There are several different pieces of legislation that would address 660 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 8: lawsuit abuse and also the third party litigation finance system 661 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 8: that funds it, because oftentimes consumers will get pushed into 662 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 8: predatory loans in order to pay for their lawsuits, and 663 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 8: at protecting American consumers together, we want to make sure 664 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 8: that people are aware of that and that they know 665 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 8: that when they are signing up for the services of 666 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 8: an attorney, hopefully a reputable one and not one that 667 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 8: they saw on a billboard. 668 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 3: Do guys find that people agree with this practice, because 669 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: it certainly sounds like it's happening a lot where this 670 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: money is getting funneled towards democrats, people can't be supportive 671 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 3: of it. 672 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 8: Well, Unfortunately, people just don't really understand and there's not 673 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 8: a lot of information out there about this practice, and 674 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 8: because candidly, it's ballooned a lot in the last thirty 675 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 8: years in our country. So this isn't a problem that 676 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 8: has seen a lot of traction at the federal level yet, 677 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 8: but we're starting to see it in the States specifically 678 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 8: because it is getting so out of control. Unfortunately, lawsuit 679 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 8: abuse is affecting every consumer. It's affecting every business, especially 680 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 8: the small businesses. When a small business is forced to 681 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 8: pay out from a fraudulent lawsuit, they often can't continue 682 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 8: to stay in operation. So the more people learn about it, 683 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 8: the less that they like it, and the more reason 684 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 8: that we have to correct. 685 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: The system real quickly before I let you go, Lauren, 686 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 2: just because a Laura uses a billboard isn't necessarily an 687 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: indicator that this is about Sometimes, like with the tobacco settlements, 688 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: they are required to do public display things. But is 689 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: there a general inclination that the ones that are doing 690 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: billboards are more deeply engaged in this law fair and 691 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: then moving on to money to the Democratic Party. 692 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, And unfortunately, what we're seeing a lot is 693 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 8: the targeting of these advertisements are targeted to low income communities. 694 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 8: So those people in low income communities are often signing 695 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 8: up for lawsuits that they don't maybe understand. They're being 696 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 8: forced to take out predatory loans, they're being forced into 697 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 8: medical procedures that they don't need, all in the name 698 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 8: of upping the amount of the settlement so that the 699 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 8: attorneys can do whatever they choose with their profits from 700 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 8: the settlement. 701 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: Wow, the system. We have to get to the bottom 702 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: of fixing really soon. Lauren's out. What a great hour 703 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: to having the show today. Thanks for joining us. Every 704 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 2: time you come on, you bring us an amazing story. 705 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. 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That's AMACAMAC dot us forward 728 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: slash just News AMAC protecting America's future, one member at 729 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: a time. 730 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody. 731 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 3: We are now near forty days, as John said, biblical 732 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: proportions of a government shutdown, and the ripple effects are 733 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 3: being felt practically everywhere. Hundreds of thousands of federal workers 734 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 3: remain furloughed or without pay, leaving everything from veterans benefits 735 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: to National Park services in limbo. So joining us now 736 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 3: to discuss those major economic challenges and his proposition to 737 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 3: overcome them. Welcome to political writer and businessman Joe Penland. 738 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 4: Joe, thanks so much for being here. 739 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 9: Thank you for having me on. 740 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 741 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: We are happy to have you, and we reported at 742 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 3: the top of the show. Democrats seem to be inching 743 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 3: a little bit closer to the table, but they of 744 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: course have conditions. 745 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 4: This has got to end soon. And I know that you've. 746 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 3: Got some ideas as to how to get our economy 747 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 3: under control. 748 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 9: Well, obviously we have to end this. I mean, this 749 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 9: is a find that no American is going to win. 750 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 9: That's sad to say, but you know, usually when two 751 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 9: people are fighting in a boxing ring, it's just those two. 752 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 9: Usually the spectators don't get hurt. In this case, the 753 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 9: Democrats and Republicans are fighting, and the American people are 754 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 9: the spectators, and they're getting hurt in no fault of 755 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 9: their own. And we need to see this stop sooner 756 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 9: than later. 757 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 758 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 2: So the history of these shutdowns is reopening the government 759 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: after shutdown actually ends up costing more than it does 760 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: to keep it shut down or keep it going during 761 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: a shutdown. At what point do we break the cycle? 762 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: And are the American people ready for the first time 763 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 2: to say pass a law to say no more shutdowns please. 764 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 9: I think the American people are ready for that. You know, 765 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 9: American people are sick and tired of sending people up 766 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 9: to d C to represent them and then they get 767 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 9: there and they forget about the people back at home. 768 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 9: You know, this is a fight for America, not for 769 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 9: one side of the aisle of the other. We need 770 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 9: to do us right from American people, and we'll iron 771 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 9: this other stuff out. You know, our dead is completely 772 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 9: out of control. That's about part some problems. So we're 773 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 9: not going to fix the debt on this CR. That's 774 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 9: not going to happen. You know, We're not going to 775 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 9: fix social security on this CR. That's not going to happen. 776 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 9: What we need to do is put that behind us, 777 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 9: make sure that America is still stable and we're working 778 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 9: like we should each day, and then we'll get on 779 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 9: with fixing the problems. But staying away is not fixing 780 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 9: the problems, it's making it worse. 781 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 3: So I know that you are in the wonderful state 782 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 3: of Texas, and New York could not be further from 783 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 3: Texas in terms of political ideology. But we look at 784 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: Zorn Mam Donnie about to become about to be sworn 785 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 3: in as New York City's mayor. Does it concern you 786 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 3: that that type of liberalism can infect places some of 787 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 3: the bluer areas of Texas. 788 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 9: It certainly does. I mean, and what I'm afraid of 789 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 9: There'll be a lot more people move out of New York, 790 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 9: come down here to Texas and that may blue us 791 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 9: a little more than we want to be. I hate that, 792 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 9: but you know, we welcome people coming to this great state. 793 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 9: But what's happening is people are leaving the blue state 794 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 9: coming down here just to get away from what's crazy 795 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 9: up there. And I think it's going to affect our 796 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 9: voter that our mass of people going to the ballast, 797 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 9: and I hate to see that come. But we need 798 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 9: to get some sense back in America and go back 799 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 9: to the old standards that we've had that led this 800 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 9: country for almost two hundred and fifty years. 801 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, Joe, I know you think a lot about 802 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: the macroeconomics behind deficits and policy and economics. Obviously, with 803 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 2: the baby boomers retiring, we've got a growing labor shortage. 804 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: What are some of the solutions short of allowing illegal 805 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 2: aliens to be illegal workers in this country. 806 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 9: Well, we're going to, you know, the only way we're 807 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 9: going to grow our workforce. You know, unfortunately it is 808 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 9: through legal immigration. You know, with the birderth rate what 809 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 9: it is, we have a decline and birth rate in 810 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 9: this country. And that's fine. That's a woman's choice and 811 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 9: that's what it should be and that's okay, but we 812 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 9: cannot continue to source out all our work around the world. 813 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 9: The President wants to bring six or seven trillion dollars 814 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 9: worth the work back to this country, but we have 815 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 9: to have workers to be able to do that and 816 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 9: capitalize on you know what, we look back at Ellis 817 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 9: Island what we've done then, and that brought millions people 818 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 9: of about twenty million people here to this country and 819 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 9: they settled here and it made this country a little 820 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 9: greater than we could have ever been on our own. 821 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 9: We need a workforce. We need a solid workforce, but 822 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 9: we need people that are law abiding and a buy 823 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 9: by our rules. And if we do that, we work 824 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 9: ourselves out of this problem. If we keep shipping jobs 825 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 9: out of the country or not take advantage of the 826 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 9: money that's ready to invest in this country. And the 827 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 9: only way we're going to do that is we're going 828 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 9: to have to use legal immigration. 829 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 1: If every woman got. 830 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 9: Pregnant today that could and have children, that workforce is 831 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 9: twenty years plus out of cycle to help us. So 832 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 9: we've got to do something in a short, short run, 833 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 9: and we can do this and we can actually capitalize 834 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 9: on that and help some shortfall for the economy. 835 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 3: Joe, I want to ask you a question another dichonomy 836 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 3: between New York and Texas. We were having a conversation 837 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 3: with another tax this week and we were talking about 838 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 3: New York with respect to it being the capitalist capital 839 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 3: of the world, the banking center of the world. But 840 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 3: it seems like there are a lot of banking groups 841 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: that are moving their way to Dallas. 842 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 4: Does that seem right to you. 843 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 9: I had some meetias with some bank people this week. 844 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 9: There's a lot of people coming to Dallas. There's a 845 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 9: lot of people coming to Houston. You know, we have 846 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 9: some good economy here. We have a lot of L 847 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 9: and G plants, We have a lot of oil and 848 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 9: gas here, a lot of refineries being built. We got 849 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 9: a lot of deep waterways. That is absolutely essential to 850 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 9: us being a net exporter and that's where we need 851 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 9: to be. You know, we're shipping llen G gas now 852 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 9: all over the world and that's great for our economy. 853 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 9: So yeah, people are coming to Texas. You know, the 854 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 9: taxes and everything are better here in Texas. We've got 855 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 9: a little bit better weather. I think the New York 856 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 9: I don't like the cold weather when you're seventy five. 857 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 9: You're always a little chilly, so Texas is good for me. 858 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 9: But this is a great state and a great country, 859 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 9: and we just de all pull together and we'll get 860 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 9: through this crisis that we're in. 861 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: Joe, we soon have a stock exchange in Texas too. 862 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 9: Yes, that's a fact. Isn't that great? 863 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 1: That's a fact. 864 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 2: New financial capital of the world and in a free state. 865 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 4: About that, And Joe, I agree with you. 866 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 3: You guys have good weather in Texas, but you got 867 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 3: to find a way to make Texas unappealable to New 868 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 3: Yorkers if you don't want all of those votes flooding 869 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 3: down to the lone star state. Joe Pelin, always a 870 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 3: pleasure of having you here. 871 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 4: Sarah, thank you, Thank you both. 872 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 9: Have a great aidment you too. 873 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 4: All Right, everybody, we've got one more segment, so we 874 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 4: will see you on the inside. Welcome back, everybody. 875 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: I want to touch on a dire topic before we 876 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: head into a few more fun things for the weekend. 877 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 3: These seven plaintiffs who are suing chat GPT, who have 878 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 3: family members who died by suicide. These family members went 879 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 3: on chat GPT and they were just using it for 880 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: general knowledge. Help out with you know, homework assignments and 881 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 3: things like that, and ultimately ended up committing suicide. I 882 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 3: think that this is going to be a major case 883 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 3: and could set precedent for how chat GPT operates in 884 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 3: the future and their responsibility. 885 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, this is going to be one of 886 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: the epic social responsibility cases in a long time. And 887 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 2: you know, where does technology end and more responsibility began? 888 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 2: And as we've become more and more automated, these questions 889 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 2: are going to come up a lot more. We're watching 890 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 2: this when close he had justin news. It's an important story. 891 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 6: It really is. 892 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 3: Okay, so this story came across my radar so this week, Sorry, 893 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 3: let me rewind two years ago. Robert De Niro's grandson, 894 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 3: who's nineteen years old, he died of a drug overdose. 895 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 3: Nothing substantial transpired in the case under Joe Biden's DJ 896 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 3: and his DEA, But now under Trump's DJ, in coordination 897 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 3: with a Trump appointed attorney, five individuals have been charged. 898 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 3: So do you anticipate, John, that Robert De Niro is 899 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 3: going to pick up the phone and thank President Trump 900 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 3: we're actually finding these folks. 901 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: No, And I'm not sure President Trump would take the 902 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 2: call either. But listen, the good thing is no one 903 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 2: should die from a chemical warfare in our country. This 904 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 2: has just been in saying China cartels are a big 905 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 2: part of this, and Joe Biden just enabled it for 906 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 2: four years and the toll goes. Now, there was some 907 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 2: reduction in fentanyl the last year because the public pressure 908 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 2: had become so much. But no matter where Robert de 909 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 2: Niro stands on his politics, no grandfather should have to 910 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 2: bury their grandson, and no Americans should fall prey. I 911 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 2: think of these kids that pick up a pill on 912 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 2: the ground, they're three years old and they die. That 913 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 2: is not only an American it is immoral. And I'm 914 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 2: glad that this president and all of the great men 915 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 2: and women in blue are doing more to crack down 916 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 2: because they had their hands tied behind the back for 917 00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 2: four years. 918 00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 919 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 3: Well, as we talked about, it's not just those who 920 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 3: are seeking out illicit drug use. It can be some 921 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 3: type of counterfeit pill for you know, some some other condition. 922 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 3: And really really devastated speaking of that, three more Chinese 923 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 3: scholars tied to that University of Michigan case with the biomaterial. 924 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: In the country. With one of those academic visas. 925 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: That story we broke, and we talked about this, and 926 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 2: then a few weeks later broke Rollins came out. So 927 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 2: I'm cracking down on this. Who the heck is letting 928 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 2: Chinese researchers into pathogen programs? 929 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 1: Apparently we know the answer. 930 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 2: And the US government, Yeah, these these are h H 931 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 2: S N I H D A U S d A. 932 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 1: Our government was facilitating this sort of stuff. 933 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 4: It's terrifying. 934 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 3: So John, I wrote a story for The Weekend UH 935 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 3: based based off of some of Scott Rasmussen's and not 936 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 3: only is polling, some of his comments on the show 937 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 3: last night, and I was doing kind of a dichotomy 938 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 3: story between the fact that per his polling and really 939 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 3: just anecdotally, we know that Americans don't feel like they'rets 940 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 3: have gotten any more flush with cash, even though there 941 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 3: are a ton of measurecs that show that they have. 942 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 3: So I was looking into the numbers as far as 943 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 3: the Thanksgiving meals that are twenty five percent cheaper gas, 944 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 3: of course at record lows under present Trump egg prices, 945 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 3: and record lows the prescription drugs. But John, this week, 946 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 3: if Tuesday is any warning shot to Republicans, it's that 947 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 3: they're not messaging on that stuff. 948 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: Well enough, that's what it is. That's exactly what is. 949 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 2: And the Democrats knew the Republicans wouldn't message well, and 950 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 2: that's why they sat down. 951 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: The government took the risk. 952 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 2: It's as predictable as well government not passing a budget, 953 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 2: which is done for twenty five years. So all right, 954 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 2: So at the top somewhere I slept in the biblical 955 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 2: reference of forty days Jesus in the desert forties Moses, 956 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 2: Noah's fled forty days. My grammar school teacher was watching 957 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 2: on no Real America's voice. I'm proud of that, and said, 958 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 2: I'm glad you remembered something from my lessons. 959 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 3: Aw did that come from her? 960 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember whatever. 961 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 2: It's like, I said, I was in the grammar school 962 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 2: in the dark ages, so I don't know whether she 963 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 2: was it, but she takes credit for it, and I'm 964 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,959 Speaker 2: not going to contradictor because I'm afraid she'll. 965 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: Send me to attention. 966 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 3: All right, John, you always are so good at reading 967 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 3: the tea leaves. Let's finish where we started off with 968 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 3: Chrman Barry louder Milk, what do you anticipate it is 969 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 3: going to be the next thing to break. 970 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 2: I think we're going to find out who these new 971 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 2: whistleblowers are. He hinted that someone is about to come 972 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 2: forward with some big information, and I think that that's 973 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 2: really important. People coming forward is what is going to 974 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 2: give this the credibility it needs to get through the 975 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 2: court system and br accountability. So any American patriots, if 976 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 2: you got information, come forward. 977 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: That's all I can say. 978 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and whistle owers have proven to be so so 979 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 3: valuable in so many of these cases. 980 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: We'll never forget the. 981 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, everybody that's going to do it for 982 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 3: us tonight. We appreciate you being here on this Friday. 983 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 3: We will be back on Monday at six pm Eastern. 984 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 3: In the meantime, Grintstonfield is going to take it to 985 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 3: the next hour. A great night.