1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Speaks to the plan in Charlamagne to God. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Here and as we come close to closing out this year, 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you for tuning it 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: into the Black Effect podcast network. There have been so 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: many great moments over the past year. Take a listen 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: to some of those captivating moments in this special best 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: of episode. 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 3: Landy Smith is founder and CEO at Actively Black in 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: Active Faith, both wildly successful athletes and brands doing numbers 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: and unlikely fashion mogul. Landy is a former college star 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: basketball player and pro athlete. But this wasn't the road 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: he chose, but he found his path. In his first 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 3: year in businesses brands earned one hundred thousand dollars in revenue. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: Now he's doing seven million. He talks about how that's 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: a void of representation and investment, specifically the gap in 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: the market that Actively Black aims to address. 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, first and foremost, this at 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 4: leisure segment of apparel has been the fastest growing segment 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: of all apparel for the last seven years. There was 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: a huge spike during you know, during COVID, and people 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: thought that it would slow down afterwards, but it hasn't. 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think. 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 4: Because of the nature of this industry where it's you know, 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: people are not just wearing this apparel to work out anymore, 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, at leisure is now something that 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: people are wearing to travel to work, and it's even 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 4: become like a fashion thing as well. 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: So I think because of that, there's. 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 4: So much room in space in this particular segment. I 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 4: think the last numbers I saw was that by twenty thirty, 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: at leisure is going to be a four hundred billion dollar. 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: Market itself. 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: And then, you know, when you think about the black audience, 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: Mackenzie actually just released a report that showed that by 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: twenty thirty, Blacks in the United States alone we'll be 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: spending seventy billion annually on apparel and footwear. So, you know, 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: in a space that seems like it's oversaturated and crowded, 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: there's so many brands that are doing some real numbers, 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 4: that are doing some real things. I think the differentiating 40 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 4: factor for actively Black is I saw a voids specifically 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 4: in this sports apparel at leisure wear space. So we're 42 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: not a streetwear brand, We're not a fashion brand. We 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: are a true at leisure sports apparel brand. And you know, 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: when you think about some of the legacy companies that 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: have existed in this space. You know, these brands have 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 4: profited billions of dollars off of Black talent, black consumerism, 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: black culture, and I feel like they hadn't adequately reinvested 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 4: back into the Black community in a meaningful way. 49 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: And so, you know, it's time. 50 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, why not have have the black 51 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: version of Nike, the black owned version of of of. 52 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Nike and Lulu limit? Why not? 53 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 5: You know? 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: And so I think our level of quality and the 55 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: way that we've built the brand has positioned us to 56 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: be in a place where, you know, a lot of 57 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: our customers we get comments from them where they're like, hey, 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: I don't have to buy Nike or Lululemon again. I 59 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 4: can replace all of those types of items in my 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 4: closet with actively black And so I. 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: Think that's the void that we're feeling. 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 4: And because we are unapologetically and boldly black and celebrating 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: black culture and centering Black culture in everything that we do, 64 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: it stands out it makes us different from what exists 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: in the market. 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that, And I want to talk about 67 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: that market segmentation that you know, being by black people, 68 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: and you know, you've got active faith and actively black, 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: and I think about you know, these are both in 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: many ways sub categories of you know, populations of people. 71 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: And so when you think about segmentation in that way, 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: often entrepreneurs, erroneously or correctly, depending on the effort, you know, 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: miscalculate the size of the market and or try to 74 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: go after a market that's wildly inappropriate for what they're 75 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: trying to do. And so how do you how do 76 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: you think about what is the big opportunity for a 77 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: black owned you know, athletes, your brand when you think 78 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: about those two categories, like is it big enough? Talk 79 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: about the size and you know, you know, obviously yes, 80 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: yes it's going to be big enough, but talk about 81 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 3: how you got there? 82 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. 83 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: So you know, first, I think in general with entrepreneurs, 84 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: one of the things that a lot of us will 85 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: do is we'll have an idea for something and we'll 86 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 4: put all of our energy and resources into building that 87 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: product and building that service or whatever it is, and 88 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 4: then we go and try to find an audience to. 89 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: Sell it to or to serve it to. 90 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 4: Where for both active faith and actively black, I feel 91 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: like where I've kind of reversed engineered some of this. 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 4: And I learned this from Greta. I can't remember Greta's 93 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 4: last name, but she's built six or seven different e 94 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: commerce direct to consumer brands, and one of the pieces 95 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: of advice that she gave was find and build an 96 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: audience first, and then build product that serves that audience, right, 97 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: And so that kind of gives you a better chance 98 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: at success and a better chance at succeeding because now 99 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 4: you're creating product that super serves an audience that you 100 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: or that you found, instead of the other way around 101 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: where you're building it and like, Okay, now let me 102 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 4: go find somebody who wants. 103 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: This for the black audience specifically. 104 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: It's been interesting when I first was launching Actively Black, 105 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 4: I had black people tell me that if I named 106 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: it Actively Black and if I focused on the black audience, 107 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: that it was going to prevent this brand from being successful, 108 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: that we wouldn't have the TAM right, the total addressable 109 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: market wouldn't be big enough for us to be successful. 110 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: I was hoping, you go here. 111 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: I'm glad you're going here. 112 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, And it was it was. 113 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: It was disheartening and disappointing at times to hear that, 114 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: because this wasn't just other people telling me this. This 115 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: is black people telling me this too. Like Noah, I 116 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: don't name it Actively Black, it's going to limit its 117 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 4: chances of success. 118 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: And I have seen I see that more. 119 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: As a sign of. 120 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 6: The effects of oppression and the systemic discrimination and all 121 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 6: the things that black people have had to deal with, 122 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 6: especially in corporate America, where black culture and you authentically 123 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 6: showing up as yourself is something that it's kind of 124 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 6: frowned upon, you know what I mean. 125 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: So so when you start to in turn that, you think, okay. 126 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: Well, anything that is so boldly and unapologetically black is 127 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: a negative. And so even the mission and purpose of 128 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: what I'm doing with Actively Black is to reclaim and 129 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: redefine what it means to be black. We've unfortunately listened to. 130 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: What oppressors have told us. 131 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: What black means instead of us actually owning what it 132 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: means to be black. And I think that's why it 133 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: shows up in that way. 134 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: And so you know, my response to many of them 135 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: is one. 136 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: When you think about the size of the diaspora, because 137 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: that's one thing that I need people to understand we're 138 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: not building this for Black Americans. This is Actively Black. 139 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: To me, is a global brand that will galvanize the 140 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: entire diaspora around the globe under this brand that represents 141 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: all of us. 142 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: The tagline for Actively Black is. 143 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: There's greatness in our DNA, you know, So whether you 144 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 4: are you know, from Houston, Texas like myself, Brooklyn, London, Jamaica, Legos, Nigeria, wherever, 145 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: there's a part of our DNA that ties us together. 146 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: And I don't think that there's been a brand so far. 147 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: That has existed that has chosen to put all of 148 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: us under the same umbrella as one tribe. 149 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: And that's what we're trying to do Actively Black. And 150 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: when you think. 151 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 4: About the size of the diaspora, then you start to 152 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: realize we're actually not the minority, you know what I mean. 153 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: I think there's this misconception that we are the minority 154 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: in the world. So if we're only speaking to the 155 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: black audience, it's too small of an audience to speak 156 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 4: to or to sell to, right And the crazy part 157 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: about that is every corporation, every multi billion dollar brand, 158 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: either has a department or they're having meetings to figure 159 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: out how to sell to the black consumer. 160 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: That's right, right, that's right. 161 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: So if the. 162 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: Black consumer is big enough for Nike to be figured 163 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: out how do we sell to the black audience, for 164 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: Coca Cola to figure out how do we sell to 165 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: the black audience. If our audience is big enough for 166 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: these multi billion dollar brands to focus on how they 167 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: sell to us, then why would it not be big. 168 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: Enough for a black on brand to sell to us? 169 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 170 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: Like, that's that's the part that has never made sense 171 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: to me. But I know part of it is just 172 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: because some of this hasn't been done before. 173 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: And so. 174 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 4: You you know, I'm a believer that you can't be 175 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: what you can't see, you know what I mean. And 176 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 4: so if we've never seen a black Nike before, then 177 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 4: maybe it's just it hasn't existed before in our minds, 178 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 4: so it can't be done. 179 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: That's what I'm fighting against. 180 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: Nicki Sondis is a powerhouse in the world of content 181 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: strategy and personal branding. She's the content strategist and founder 182 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: of Deeper Than the Brand, where she helps entrepreneurs, speakers, 183 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 3: and creatives grow their digital footprint authentically. She's best known 184 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: for her work with motivational speaker Eric Thomas, better known 185 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: as ET what she helps scale his online community exponentially. 186 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: She's passionate about helping others turn their social media presence 187 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,359 Speaker 3: into a vehicle for success using the power of storytelling, 188 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: AI and impactful strategy. So what goes wrong when I 189 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: believe I have a post that's fire and I post 190 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: it and it goes flat and nothing happens, nobody likes it? 191 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: Like what happens? 192 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: Nikki? 193 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: Help me out? 194 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 7: I mean, it could be a few things like that. 195 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 7: That's such a broad question. It's like, it could be 196 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 7: the timing, it could be anything from you didn't have 197 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 7: to write hook, it could be the algorithm. There's a 198 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 7: lot of things like it's I always look at when 199 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 7: I post and it goes flat. I look at me first. Yeah, right, 200 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 7: I think it's easier to control what I post than 201 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 7: what I put out and what I create instead of 202 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 7: going ah, the algorithm is doing what it does. I 203 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 7: was like, because I can't. I feel like that's a 204 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 7: cop out when other people numbers are clearly are doing Okay. 205 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 7: I'm just feeling a certain kind of way because no 206 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 7: one's listening to me at this moment. But then I have, 207 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 7: like I look at it from a standpoint of all right, visually, 208 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 7: how does it look? You know, what was the first 209 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 7: three seconds? Did I? Uh? Did I keep their attention? 210 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 7: Because depending on the platforms, if you get them to 211 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 7: listen through the whole way through, like that could be 212 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 7: a thing. So it's it's just it's a lot of things. 213 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 7: It's a lot of things. 214 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: Our pictures on Instagram. 215 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 7: Dad, No, No, it's just you feel me like you 216 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 7: got to put it extra loving it, So you may 217 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 7: have to put like some music, you feel me. You 218 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 7: may have to make it into a carousel, so you 219 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 7: may have to say extra stories. You may have to 220 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 7: be a little bit more intentionals with the captions and 221 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 7: make it a little bit longer. What happens is what 222 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 7: the days of I post a picture and I say 223 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 7: one sentence. Now that's dead, let's just stop it. It 224 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 7: doesn't even work. But the more that they add features, 225 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 7: we have to pay attention to it. So they're allowing 226 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 7: you to add text to it, They're allowing you to 227 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 7: add extra pictures on top of your pictures. So you 228 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 7: look at let's say, the different features that are inside 229 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 7: of Instagram, and you use them it probably better you 230 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 7: reach for your post. 231 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: And so what I learned, and this is a year 232 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: ago more, what Instagram does is they count swipes through 233 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: your photo gallery as engagement. And so what I wonder 234 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: if because I actually enjoyed these particular types of posts 235 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: where there it's a gallery and like none of the 236 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: photos match, like they just you know, maybe one is 237 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: a quote, the one is me eating, the next one 238 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: is you know, something random. I actually enjoy though, so 239 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: tell like, what is that about? Why are people doing that? 240 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: I enjoy it? But where did it come from? What happened? 241 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 7: So sometimes they follow a theme, right, Sometimes they could 242 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 7: be super just randomness, but it really gives you a 243 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 7: sense of personality of the person who's posting it or 244 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 7: the brand who's posting it, right, And so that's not 245 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 7: necessarily normal in the way that we normally post that. 246 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 7: Now it's starting to be attractive. So when we're seeing, Okay, 247 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 7: I have a picture of me at the park, but 248 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 7: then I have a funny meme on the next one, 249 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 7: and then I have a deep quote, it's like I'm 250 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 7: fully truly understanding who you are as a person, rather 251 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 7: than the thirty second sixty second videos ninety second videos 252 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 7: that can be kind of like staged and scripted, So 253 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 7: sometimes we don't necessarily get your full personality unless it's 254 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 7: those types of posts or even lives. That's why lives 255 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 7: still kind of have a little bit of energy to 256 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 7: it because we get to know who you are because 257 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 7: you can't really lie on a live. It's just impossible, 258 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 7: as truly as possible. 259 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: So I'm going to ask a question. I'm going to 260 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: go the long way around to ask this question because 261 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: I think this is important context. So we talk a 262 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: lot about how educational institutions don't teach financial literacy, and 263 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: a lot of them do now they're increasingly teaching financial literacy. 264 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: And I say that, you say this when we talk 265 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: about entrepreneurs and people who are trying to build businesses. 266 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: Don't post the struggle, but they post the highlights, so 267 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: you only see the highlight reel. But when you do 268 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: post the struggle, or we find it difficult to post 269 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: the struggle, I'll say that, So how do we all 270 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: for that? So when we talk about the academic and 271 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: they trying to fix that, how do we fix you know, 272 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: the entrepreneur who's trying to show you that he's winning 273 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: or she's winning, and they're finding success and therefore follow me. 274 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: I'm on a row somewhere, but that struggle, like, I 275 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: don't want to sound like I'm on here doing the 276 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: Tyree's cry. You know what I mean, right, But. 277 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 7: The Tyres's cry worked good or bad? It worked, you 278 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 7: feel mean? So But I say that because I think 279 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 7: now in the season that we're in, the day in 280 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 7: the life is starting to get more play. Then I 281 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 7: fully got it together, right, And those people who are 282 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 7: actually taking advantage of that is like gen Z and Jena, 283 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 7: like Alpha, like they're they're really going into day one 284 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 7: of trying to create a billion dollar brand, right, and 285 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 7: they show everything about it, good or bad. The those 286 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 7: people who can't do that, it's a self issue. It 287 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 7: has nothing to do with the algorithms the platforms. Does 288 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 7: the content work or not? Because society culture is over 289 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 7: the highlight reils. We want the actual things that work 290 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 7: or that doesn't work, or I want to feel like 291 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 7: I'm not alone anymore, right, And so those people who 292 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 7: are showing, hey, this is how I do this, I 293 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 7: don't know if it's right. I don't know if it's like, 294 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 7: but I'm going to do it anyways. It builds community, 295 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 7: and so those brands are starting to get more and 296 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 7: more traction because it's community centered. It's for the people. Whereas, yes, 297 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 7: the ones that only show the highlights are great cool. 298 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 7: You could look at it more like as these are goals. 299 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 7: I want to get there, but I feel disconnected because 300 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 7: you're already there and I'm not. So I could look 301 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 7: at you kind of like I look at it more 302 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 7: of like we do the vision boards, so I could 303 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 7: post your brand, your content on my vision board, but 304 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 7: I don't, like, I don't truly feel connected until I 305 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 7: am there. Where people who are posting about Okay, I 306 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 7: made ten dollars today, Okay, I made three thousand dollars today. 307 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 7: Okay it went back to like four. Like, those are 308 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 7: starting to get a little bit more attraction. It's still 309 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 7: not of the masses just yet, but you start if 310 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 7: you pay attention. It's definitely more popular on TikTok at 311 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 7: this moment, but it's starting to make waves on YouTube, 312 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 7: on Instagram, on Facebook as well because people are just 313 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 7: starting to like, are just over the highlight reel. 314 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: I Hope Brian is chairman and CEO at John Hope 315 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: Bryant Holdings, Brian Group Ventures, Brian Group Advisors, and executive 316 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: chairman of the Promise Homes Company, which is the largest 317 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: for profit, minority controlled owner of institutional quality, single family 318 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: residential homes in the United States. And he's founded chairman 319 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: and CEO at Operation Hope, the nation's largest on the 320 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 3: ground nonprofit provider of financial literacy. He's been an advisor 321 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: to presidents the largest corporations in the world, and he's 322 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: responsible for financial literacy becoming the official policy of the 323 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: United States federal government under Presidents George Bush and Obama. 324 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: And it's the only American citizen to ever inspire the 325 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 3: renaming of a building on the White House campus from 326 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 3: the US Treasury Annex Building to the Freeman's Bank Building 327 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 3: in honor of Lincoln's unfinished work to teach free slaves 328 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: about money. 329 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: In eighteen sixty five. 330 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: He that conversation, and for your listeners, I want them 331 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 5: to hear this and again I go all this, over 332 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 5: all this in financial Literacy for All, and also my 333 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 5: own podcast, Money and Wealth, and I talk about this 334 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 5: my pullpit of finance. You have a table, and on 335 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 5: the one side of the table is a capitalist and 336 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 5: they have a product and they want to extract money 337 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 5: from you. And on the other side of the table 338 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 5: is you, and you want that product and you don't 339 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 5: want to give them any money. And their job. People 340 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 5: listen to this now, don't get emotional. Whenever you make 341 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 5: an emotional decision, it's a bad one. The capitalist job 342 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 5: is to extract as much money as they can from 343 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 5: you while giving you the least amount of value. And 344 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 5: your job is to extract the most amount of value 345 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 5: while delivering the least amount of cash. And that dynamic 346 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 5: tension is natural negotiation. Now somebody says, well, how does 347 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 5: that apply to capitalism? Where you're a little village. You 348 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 5: don't think you're a capitalists, Go to a little village 349 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 5: in Africa, Go to little village in Latin America. Think 350 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 5: about when you're a last in Jamaica or wherever, and 351 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 5: you trying to buy them little chotsky or something somebody 352 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 5: and how much is this, Well it's two dollars. How 353 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 5: about a buck fifty? No, one ninety, Well how about 354 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 5: a buck sixty? Wow, I'll take it one seventy five. 355 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be worsehip. That's the negotiation and 356 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 5: you're you're in the midst of a capitalis transaction. You 357 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 5: go to the store, you go to CBS today where 358 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 5: the price has been predetermined because they've done market research. 359 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 5: And you want to buy a comb, and the comb 360 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 5: is nine bucks, and and they've pretty much, you know, 361 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 5: done the research approves that this comb. You pay nine 362 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: bucks for it, and you pick it up, and you 363 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 5: go to the register, and without any complaints at all, 364 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 5: you buy it. Why because you know that solving the 365 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 5: naps that autio hair and and the kinks in my 366 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 5: hair are worth at least twenty bucks, maybe a hundred bucks. 367 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 5: Maybe it's invaluable to you at that moment you want 368 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 5: to sew at least worth nine bucks. There you go, 369 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 5: right there. We do that all day every day and 370 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 5: don't think about it. We're all engaged in this system 371 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 5: of free enterprise and capitalism, but we don't understand it. 372 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 5: And is what we don't know that we don't know 373 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: this killing us. But we think we know. Some brothers 374 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 5: like I don't want to buy a house, buy buy 375 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 5: a house. The bank owns the house. I don't know. 376 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: If you don't pay, the bank will own your house. 377 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 5: But by the way, if I give you a loan 378 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 5: and you don't pay, I will own your house. Right, 379 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: So what you need to do is pay, and then 380 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 5: you get the a beit of it of appreciation, the 381 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 5: value above the debt, and you get the benefit that's 382 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 5: called equity, and you get the benefit of depreciation, which 383 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: is a tax strategy, and you get to write off 384 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 5: twenty years of a thirty year mortgage pavements against your 385 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 5: income on your tax bill, and you get to live 386 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 5: in it. Wealthy people want to save time and poor 387 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 5: people want to save money. Right, they try. We spend 388 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 5: all this time, you know, messing around trying to make 389 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 5: some money or save some money, or not pay that rent, 390 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: that light bill even though there's a rent notice on it, 391 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 5: and trying to wait till the last minute. You got 392 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 5: to pay the light bill. Whether it's Tuesday or Thursday, 393 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 5: you're gonna have to pay the light bill. Right. So, so, 394 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: but you're wasting time on this activity. I'd rather you 395 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 5: waste a little bit of my money, would waste a 396 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 5: minute of my time. I could give you more time. 397 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 5: I'll make more money. So you build wealth in your sleep. 398 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: You want to take that money and put it to work, compounding, right, 399 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 5: home ownership. We just talked about that, starting a business, 400 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 5: putting in money to work, starting a business. The easiest 401 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 5: example the stock market. There are three things that have 402 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 5: never gone down in American history American GDP Gross Domestic product, 403 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 5: the income of this country, the stock market in real 404 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 5: estate values. Now, somebody watching this will say, ah, I 405 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 5: got him, he's wrong. Doesn't he even know there was 406 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 5: a real estate recession. There was a recession in two 407 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 5: thousand and eight. Yeah, I know that, I know that. 408 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 5: I know that real estate went up, it dipped, it's 409 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 5: called a recession, and then it corrected above the line. 410 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 5: And real estate I bought for eighty eight thousand dollars 411 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 5: is now worth three hundred thousand dollars. Really, the home, 412 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 5: the townhouse I bought for two hundred and twenty thousand 413 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 5: dollars in LA with a little bit of money, of 414 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 5: my money and a lot of bit of the bank's money. 415 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 5: So here you go, twenty percent cash down from me, 416 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 5: eighty percent finands by the bank, good debt, a little 417 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 5: bit of my money from the bank account into the 418 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 5: transaction compound it. And then when the real estate recession happened, 419 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: the value went down to one something one point eighty. 420 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 5: All my friends at sale John sale sales sale, That's 421 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 5: why they broke. I'm like, why would I sell? I 422 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 5: got I got to live someplace. H No, I think 423 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 5: I'll just hold on. I moved to Atlanta, rented that 424 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 5: place out to a police officer who didn't pay his 425 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 5: bill on time. I might add and uh bud. He 426 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 5: finally paid, and I forgot about it. Will five years 427 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 5: eight years later forget it was twenty sixteen. I go 428 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 5: to check on the property, called my broker out there, 429 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 5: my brother hey man, trying to sell his property. And 430 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 5: then I'm gonna buying something in Atlanta? What can I 431 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 5: get for it? Now? Mind? You bought it for two something, 432 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 5: so when I last I checked on, it was one 433 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 5: hundred and something of value. So I was underwater. He said, well, 434 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 5: I think you can get it. You can get seven 435 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 5: to fifty. I said, you don't mean seven to fifty dollars, 436 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 5: do you? What did did la just fall apart? No, 437 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 5: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars almost passed out? It 438 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 5: hit It had literally triple in value from where more 439 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 5: than triple to value of what I paid for it. 440 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 5: That's what people with wealthy people do. Wealthy people use 441 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 5: money to make more money or use money to build wealth. 442 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 5: So so real estate has never gone down the stock market, 443 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 5: So go buy. Listen to this. I'm not telling you 444 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 5: what to buy. Whatever you're wearing, whatever you use, wherever 445 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 5: you go. And that's a publicly traded company. Go buy 446 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 5: an index or a stock with those in it, a 447 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 5: basket in it, and you don't have a lot of money, 448 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 5: do do do fractional ship. But if you're part of 449 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 5: the of the of the of the blue chip stock index, 450 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 5: those are the best performing companies in America. And they 451 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 5: are global companies. And if you lose, a billionaires losing 452 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 5: by the way, So it's a good bet. And and 453 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 5: and buy and don't sell. Just forget about it and 454 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 5: watch it compound over time. If you have a twenty 455 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 5: year window on your investment horizon and when you want 456 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 5: to retire or whatever, you're gonna have zero losses. It's 457 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 5: gonna go up, it's gonna go down, but over twenty years, 458 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 5: it's just gonna do this right on balance. And if 459 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 5: you like a company Walmart, Tarja, Target, if you like 460 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 5: a company, there's a good chance other people like it too. 461 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 5: And by the way, once you own one stock, you 462 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 5: get a right to the to the to get all 463 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 5: the financials. Yeah. All you imagine somebody bought one pencil 464 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 5: in your house and now they can go through every room, 465 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 5: in every drawer in your house. That's what When you 466 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 5: have one stock of Target or Walmart or Delta Airlines, whatever, 467 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 5: you now can go through every inch and cranny of 468 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: that company. You have a right to all their financials. 469 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 5: You are an owner and that powerful. That's sexy. 470 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: There was a study done by the SBAF. It's back 471 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, I believe it was the last time 472 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 3: they did it, and they said, eighty percent of our 473 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: businesses are in the bottom twenty percent of categories for 474 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: sales revenue. So we over index on barber shops, long 475 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: care companies, dry cleaners, et cetera. And so I wonder, like, 476 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: what does it take to get that black barber to say, 477 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: you know, instead of starting to shop on the corner, 478 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 3: I'm going to start thirty of these shops and do 479 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: it across the country. Like what does it take to 480 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: get us to think that way? 481 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 5: The Bible says, The Bible says, where there's no vision 482 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 5: that people perish. All right, so we needed again, we 483 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 5: need to go from civil rights in the street to 484 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 5: silver rights in the business suites. Look, this makes perfect 485 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 5: sense while we are where we are. Will why do 486 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: kids want to be rap stars, athletes and drug dealers 487 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 5: from our neighborhood. 488 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: That's what they see. 489 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 5: They're not dumb and they're not stupid. They're brilliant. They're 490 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 5: modeling what they see. They don't no one's talk to 491 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 5: them about why education matters to them. K through twelve, 492 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 5: they're like, why do I go do both of all 493 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 5: this when I can just go sell some drugs? Well, 494 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 5: selling drugs is prison, probation, parole, and death. But that's 495 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 5: a different conversation. They're seeing a media gratification. They're seeing 496 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 5: a connection to their aspirations. But no one's taking taking 497 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 5: education and plugging it into a socket called aspiration and saying, 498 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 5: if you do this, you can become an engineer. If 499 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 5: you do this, you can go into AI. If you 500 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 5: do this, you can become a gamer. If you do this, 501 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 5: you become a coder. If you do this, you can 502 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 5: become a real estate mate. We a real estate magnet. 503 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 5: We have a farm club for professional sports. There used 504 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 5: to be a farm club for the arts, used to 505 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 5: be art class, a lot of stuff. But there's still 506 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 5: an informal farm club for that, but certainly professional sports 507 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 5: from middle school. But there's no farm club for business 508 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 5: and the things that's driving the economy. And so you 509 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 5: look at the role models a jay Z or whoever 510 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: people admire, they have a staff of thirty people. The 511 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 5: biggest celebrities that you want to admire, they have a 512 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 5: staff of five people, four people, ten people, maybe thirty 513 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 5: people that's running their brand. You can't scale the brand. 514 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 5: This is only one jay Z. Maybe I'm not picking 515 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 5: on jay Z. There's only one Ti or Killer Mike 516 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 5: who I know, and you can't. And there's only so 517 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: many employees that are able to sit in their balance 518 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 5: sheet given that is one the product is an individual. Right. 519 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 5: So the things that we've tried to get forty million 520 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 5: people into to an economic model designed for three thousand people, right, 521 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 5: and even those jobs last three to five years on average. 522 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 5: Celebrity three to five years, a ball player three to 523 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 5: five years, drug dealer probably less than that. Right. And 524 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 5: look at Jews, just the opposite, seven and a half 525 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 5: million Jews, but they're pursuing forty million occupations, and they've 526 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: understand that you need to write the check, not just 527 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 5: cash it, be the owner. So when you discriminate against me, 528 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 5: you just discriminate against the guy who owns the building 529 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 5: that you're actually talking crap in. So what we need 530 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 5: is a long answer to your question. What we need 531 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 5: is a business plan. What we need is a business plan, 532 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 5: and we need role models who start with what you 533 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 5: just said. Why am I just why don't I have 534 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 5: too much month of the end in my money? Why? 535 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 5: No matter how hard I work, I'm broke because you've 536 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 5: got one operation and you're trying to make money and 537 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 5: not trying to build wealth. You need to you build 538 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 5: wealth in your sleep. Compounding. Compounding can mean different additional locations. 539 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 5: So maybe I need to model success. Maybe I need 540 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 5: twenty locations, maybe I need ten. I can't. And by 541 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 5: the way, what's the strategy. It's gonna blow your your 542 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 5: viewer's mind when I say, listeners, listeners mind? When I 543 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 5: say this, why do I want to have three locations, 544 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 5: ten twenty to sell it? 545 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: That's right, that's absolutely correct to sell it. 546 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 5: Oh but John, then it's not a black business. No, 547 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 5: it's a successful one. It's called an exit strategy, right, right, right, 548 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 5: So percent of black businesses don't have an employee because 549 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 5: we're emotional about it, because we're there're self employment projects. 550 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 5: Because we have to understand that this is about growing 551 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 5: something you can sell, that you can merge, that you 552 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 5: can that you know, it's not a black business, it's 553 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 5: a green one. You don't see Jewish people and white 554 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 5: people have said white owned business. You know, you don't 555 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: see Jews, Latino people, Latino own business, big sign in 556 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 5: the one in the wall. Let's you know, you know 557 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 5: Asian own business. Right, it's only black people your own business. 558 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 5: I know it's black. I see you. Right. You want 559 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 5: every person who with a dollar bill, a legit one 560 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: to be your customer. Right, And so we got to 561 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 5: take the emotion out of it. We need different kind 562 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 5: of role models. Look, why am I doing what I'm 563 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 5: doing to create plumbing? There is no there is no 564 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 5: one of the videos has got four million, five million 565 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 5: views that I did. Somebody just put up this little clip. 566 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 5: I dide able to speak of the Milking conference where 567 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 5: I said I want to be the Federal Reserve of 568 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 5: the hood. Yeah, And to me it was common sense. 569 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 5: I wasn't. I wasn't trying to get attention. I was 570 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 5: I just thought it was common sense. I want to 571 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 5: become the federal Reserve of the hood. I want to 572 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 5: create an economic infrastructure, a financial access point nationwide where 573 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 5: we can come in operationalize our untapped human potential at scale. 574 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 5: Get our credit score up thirty to fifty to one 575 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 5: hundred points, get our debt. You know, black people have 576 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 5: the largest, sorry of the lowest credit score on average 577 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 5: in the nation. The average credit score for black people 578 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 5: is less than six twenty. Not poor people, all of us. 579 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 5: And so when we get up in the morning, will 580 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 5: and we think that the bank is discriminating against us, 581 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 5: and they might be. It might be a racist person 582 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 5: at the bank who don't like you, who discriminated against you. 583 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 5: That might be the case. But if your credit score 584 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 5: is five fifty, they don't want to work very hard 585 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 5: at it. The answer is just no, right, you're just 586 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 5: a bad credit risk. You don't pay your bills. So 587 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 5: we get the credits grow up fifty to one hundred points, 588 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 5: so you're in the high sixes. God forbid, you get 589 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 5: the seven. That's the Nirvana seven hundred. Get your debt 590 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 5: down thirty eight hundred dollars for somebody making forty eight 591 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 5: thousand dollars. These store our Hope and side models at 592 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 5: open site locations and operation Ope three hundred dollars across 593 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 5: the country. We get your savings up two thousand dollars 594 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 5: on average. And when we do that, we make you 595 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 5: bank qualified. So the bank just wants to say yes. 596 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 5: And if you want to test my theory, go to 597 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 5: the computer at midnight when the bank's not even open 598 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 5: and you have a seven to twenty credit score and 599 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 5: type in an application for a credit card or a 600 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 5: mortgage or cardinals and watch that approval. 601 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: Get it quick. 602 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 5: Quick, change the game, change the business plan, change your minds, 603 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 5: change your model, become bilingual, learn financial literacy for all. 604 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 5: It's the new civil rights issue of this generation. We 605 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 5: have got to be as obsessed with this as we 606 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 5: were the right to Volks. 607 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: Once again, thank you for tuning into the Blackfect Podcast Network. 608 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: Seeing you in twenty twenty five for more great moments 609 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: from your favorite podcast