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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Award winning filmmaker writer Bart Sebrella is here, and of course,

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Speaker 2: perhaps best known for A Funny Thing Happened on the

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Speaker 2: Way of the Moon, the documentary released in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and one, followed by Astronauts Gone Wild investigation into the

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Speaker 2: authenticity of the Moon landings in two thousand and four,

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Speaker 2: and his memoir moon Man, The True Story of a

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Speaker 2: Filmmaker on the CIA hit List, released in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: You were talking about, you know, one of the arguments

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Speaker 2: people attempting to debunk the Apollo Lunar landing hoaxers is

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Speaker 2: that you couldn't keep something that big a secret. That's

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Speaker 2: often cited for any conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: The obvious example is, I think it was one hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty six thousand people that were involved in the

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Speaker 2: Manhattan Project, you know, and I know someone whose father

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Speaker 2: was involved in that. I mean, their wives didn't know,

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Speaker 2: nobody knew what they were doing. How many people were

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Speaker 2: involved in the D Day invasion, like just soldiers alone,

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Speaker 2: it was one hundred and fifty six thousand. Never mind

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Speaker 2: all of this, you know, the civilians and so forth

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Speaker 2: that were involved. Obviously, the D Day invasions thankfully were

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Speaker 2: a complete surprise to the Germans. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: that the idea of being able to compartmentalize something is

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Speaker 2: is true. I do want to go back to the

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Speaker 2: the AI again, the idea that they they ran the

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Speaker 2: lunar landing photos through some sort of an AI program

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Speaker 2: and and all the red flags went up and said

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Speaker 2: every virtually everything about them was fake.

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Speaker 1: Do we know.

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Speaker 2: Which AI program that was? Because I'm just I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: you've probably seen this, but Google apparently has claimed that

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Speaker 2: it wasn't their app that you know, they can't verify

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Speaker 2: which app it was, but they say categorically that Google's

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Speaker 2: AI did not discover the footage from the moon landing

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Speaker 2: was fake. Do we know which who was responsible for

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Speaker 2: that AI program?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean Google is lying right there. Why we

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Speaker 3: li if about something unless they're trying to cover it up.

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Speaker 3: It did say it. Go to sebral dot com scroll

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Speaker 3: down about halfway. There's a detailed article about it where

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Speaker 3: Google's AI neural network, a bunch of AIS hooked up

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Speaker 3: the most intelligent entity on the planet a couple of

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Speaker 3: months ago, was fed pictures from the surface of the

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Speaker 3: Moon from unmanned Chinese probes. It said they're real. It

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Speaker 3: was fed Apollo pictures. It said fake this, fake that,

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Speaker 3: fake this, that's the fact. Why would they deny it?

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Speaker 3: In fact, I have a screenshot and I think it's

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Speaker 3: a video that's linked to my YouTube channel where they

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Speaker 3: are so desperate to cover this up. The article was

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Speaker 3: originally written in Russian and it was downloaded. I copied it,

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Speaker 3: and then when I went back to check it before

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Speaker 3: I wrote my own article about it, the link didn't work.

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Speaker 3: And then I found the original link in Russion and

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Speaker 3: put it into Google Translate, and Google Translate will will

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Speaker 3: translate a script from the Gilligans Island. But you put

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Speaker 3: in an article about how their own smart ai said

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Speaker 3: the moon missions were fake. To translate from Russian to English,

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Speaker 3: it refused to translate it. And then I found the

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Speaker 3: original link that you preceded all of this. I click

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Speaker 3: on it, A big warning comes on the screen. If

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Speaker 3: you proceed, all the data on your computer will be

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Speaker 3: stolen and will be associated with child pornography. That's how

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Speaker 3: desperate they are to cover this up. That is what happened.

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Speaker 3: We have stories to back it up video to back

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Speaker 3: it up and deny it all they want. Another interesting

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Speaker 3: point is why didn't RT that's allegedly, you know, anti American.

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Speaker 3: You have gutten there being told at the landings are fake.

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Speaker 3: It's nowhere to be found at RT. I had a

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Speaker 3: comment and another story about AI. All of my comments

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Speaker 3: are remain on RT, but when I added a comment

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Speaker 3: about Google's AI, it was removed immediately. They are trying

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Speaker 3: to cover up the story. Google's trying to cover it

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Speaker 3: up because you could say the god of science is

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Speaker 3: putting a man on the boon, and the messiah of

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Speaker 3: science is AI. And when the smartest AI says the

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Speaker 3: pictures are fake, when it's run through its own deep

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Speaker 3: fake protocol program, either Google's multi billion dollar, multi year investment,

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Speaker 3: it's a piece of junk and they're completely ineptic Google,

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Speaker 3: or the moon landings are fake. And if I can

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Speaker 3: get back to the thousands of people involved. Eugene Krantz,

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Speaker 3: who I've spoken to, the flight director at Apollo set

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Speaker 3: out of his own mouth, a command center employee, and

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Speaker 3: Houston Control can tell no difference whatsoever between a simulation

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Speaker 3: numbers on the screen, so you only have three ex

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Speaker 3: military people going up and one at NASA. Even in

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Speaker 3: command center know that they're receiving a simulation program, just

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Speaker 3: like all the times that they rehearsed. He said that

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Speaker 3: out of his own mouth. And then has there ever

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Speaker 3: been a technology in history that cost an equivalent of

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Speaker 3: two hundred billion dollars that was destroyed? I mean, maybe

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Speaker 3: when they blew up the first atomic bomb in World

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Speaker 3: War Two, maybe they should have destroyed that at least

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Speaker 3: considered it. But only ten years later atomic bombs or

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Speaker 3: one thousand times more powerful. So we could go to

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Speaker 3: the Moon ahead a schedule, when all of NASA had

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Speaker 3: one million to computing power cell phone, we would have

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Speaker 3: been on Mars ten years later. We'd been another solar

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Speaker 3: system by now, and there'd be bases all over the Moon.

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Speaker 3: There has never been a time in history where technology

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Speaker 3: was greater in the past than in the future. So

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Speaker 3: the first proof shadows intersecting all the proof you need.

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Speaker 3: Second proof today, as you said in the introduction, with

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Speaker 3: fifty four years better computers and Petter rockets, the farthest

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Speaker 3: that NASA can send astronauts into space is one thousand

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Speaker 3: the distance to the Moon. That's why there's mannequins orbiting

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Speaker 3: the moon. NASA said in twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen

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Speaker 3: we will have people orbiting the Moon. They were one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent behind schedule. Instead of taking four years, it

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Speaker 3: took eight years and then no people, only mannequins because

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Speaker 3: of lethal radiation. My book at sebrel dot com that

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Speaker 3: I read myself in audio or kindle or print. It's

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Speaker 3: interactive with seventeen video links that back up everything I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: including a NASA employee saying that the technology to survive

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Speaker 3: radiation to the Moon and back has yet to be invented.

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Speaker 3: Another astronaut saying NASA deliberately destroyed the technology. I mean,

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Speaker 3: imagine Bill Gates spending two hundred billion dollars to make

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Speaker 3: the first AI. It works fantastic, and when he's done,

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Speaker 3: he takes the hardware, all the blueprints, all the diagrams,

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Speaker 3: all the software and throws it into a furnace. Would

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Speaker 3: anyone do that, But that's exactly what they did. All

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Speaker 3: the original video tapes, they stay out of their own mouth.

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Speaker 3: They deliberately destroyed them. All of the telemetry data where

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Speaker 3: the rocket really was they stay of their own mouth,

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Speaker 3: they deliberately destroyed it. All the bluetrints, all the schematics,

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Speaker 3: all that quote wonderful, miraculous technology. They say out of

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Speaker 3: their own mouth, they deliberately destroyed it. Now, if you

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Speaker 3: really spend two hundred billion dollars go to the Moon,

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Speaker 3: that's the last thing you would do. It would be

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Speaker 3: to destroy it all. But if you were perpetrating a

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what you would do. So you see the

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Speaker 3: fact that they destroyed everything is also evidence of the fraud.

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Speaker 2: Art spell the moment true story of filmmaker on the

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Speaker 2: list down the top. Yeah, I just want to spend

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Speaker 2: a little bit of time and when we come back,

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Speaker 2: we'll get into the into the book moon Man. But

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Speaker 2: I just want to go back to that. Uh well,

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Speaker 2: at the time, it was a thirty one year old, mislabeled,

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Speaker 2: unedited reel of footage you believe provides you know, the

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Speaker 2: it's kind of the lollapalooza piece of evidence the Apollo

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Speaker 2: moonwalk was a hoax. First of all, how did you

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Speaker 2: uncover it?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: And then maybe walk us through without the benefit of

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Speaker 2: obviously you know images here what what that that that tape,

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Speaker 2: that reel of footage shows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mind you. My investor again was someone who builds

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Speaker 3: rockets for NASA, who knows the moves are fake, who

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Speaker 3: gave me a million dollars. We exhaustively went through the

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Speaker 3: archives of just the first mission. I didn't know. I

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Speaker 3: believed that they were real. I thought as possible that

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Speaker 3: they faked it. So I was doing the film under

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Speaker 3: the theory it might be true that they faked it.

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Speaker 3: It just have to have an open mind and willing

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Speaker 3: to be wrong. That's how you learn. That's what pride is,

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Speaker 3: the unwillingness to be wrong. Well, I'm exhaustively going through

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Speaker 3: the archives and it's the same footage over and over

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Speaker 3: and over again from the first Moon mission. At the most,

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Speaker 3: there's only fifteen pictures of an astronaut standing on the

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Speaker 3: surface of the Moon. It's amazing, and all the footage

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Speaker 3: is like re edit it. So I'm going through trying

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Speaker 3: to find the launch in real time, and you can't

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Speaker 3: even get the launch in real time. They cut it

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Speaker 3: tape that says on the screen, do not show to

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Speaker 3: the public. Well, it had a source at NASA during

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Speaker 3: had extremely high security clearance only second to von Braun.

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Speaker 3: in ten thousand chants of doing it successfully without killing

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Speaker 3: the crew. He believes a whistleblower at NASA gave me

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Speaker 3: the tape. You pop in the tape, it's the only

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Speaker 3: unedited footage aside from one other real that I have, Meaning,

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Speaker 3: It's a special effect shot, and it's dated by NASA's

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Speaker 3: they're lying to the television audience, that Camber lens butted

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Speaker 3: track of audio on the tape of the CIA prompting

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Speaker 3: them to fake a four second radio delay because they

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Speaker 3: never left Earth orbit. And what a surprise, fifty four

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Speaker 3: years later, they still cannot leave Earth orbit, except they're

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Speaker 3: supposed to be halfway through the Moon about two seconds out.

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Speaker 3: They estimated in two seconds back for radio. So we

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Speaker 3: and then telling talk to the astronauts to make sure

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Speaker 3: has constructed a one foot model of the Earth. That's

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Speaker 3: found the unedited reel, I would have assumed it was real.

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Speaker 3: But we have them one hundred percent proveing they're faking

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Speaker 3: being halfway to the Moon. And as I mentioned in

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Speaker 3: my book, it's the brow dot com. Even my greatest

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Speaker 3: critic says, yes, that is the crew of Apollo eleven

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Speaker 3: faking being halfway to the moon. Their excuses, they were

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Speaker 3: just rehearsing. Well, this exact footage is in every NASA

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Speaker 3: And then secondly, every minute of the mission is a

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Speaker 3: million dollars, Every ounce of weight is a million dollars.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to bring extra models of the Earth

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Speaker 3: to pretend to be halfway to the moon. If the

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Speaker 3: gave me thousands of dollars for the exclusive license this footage,

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Speaker 3: And a funny thing happened on the way to the

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Who has it? Well, there's multiple copies of it, and

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Speaker 3: That, well, I don't want to say. I've made multiple

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