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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by a hard rock bet.

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Speaker 1: We are part of the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: This is the show that makes the.

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Speaker 1: Squares sharper and makes the wise guys pay attention. I

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Speaker 1: am Chadmulman. I am joined as always by Michaels, my companion, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Padre, Professional Better, Simon hunt Ello.

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Speaker 3: Simon Chad, how are we doing great? You know, you

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Speaker 3: know what.

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Speaker 2: We're two and two on the day.

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Speaker 1: But it was some wacky, wild fun football. This game

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Speaker 1: with the Bills and the Patriots just a burn burner.

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Speaker 1: Let's give it up for Matt Mitchell right now because

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Speaker 1: he's being a total pro, hasn't lost it once in

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Speaker 1: the prep to come on the show. He's producing the show.

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Speaker 1: We washed it all together in real time. He's the

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Speaker 1: mayor of Western New York and he's going to suffer

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Speaker 1: through the show listening to us talk about that game,

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Speaker 1: which we did not win. We had a minus one

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Speaker 1: and a half in the contest, we had the Browns

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Speaker 1: plus three and a half in the content, we had

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Speaker 1: the Texans, we had the Titans, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Plus two and a half.

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Speaker 1: That one really stinks, and we had.

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Speaker 2: I forgot who else we had.

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Speaker 1: Who else do we have set Seattle minus seven and

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Speaker 1: a half. Nice job, Simon Hunter. All right, we didn't

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Speaker 1: really have any last outs, like.

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Speaker 2: You know the game.

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Speaker 1: The only other games that were like in contention, Raiders, Jets, Dolphins, Colts, Jags,

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Speaker 1: Like we talked about all sides of all of them.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it. I want to say Buffalo

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Speaker 1: for the end. Nice job by you. Seahawks minus seven

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Speaker 1: and a half at Carolina. This was Simon says, and

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it was exactly as you played out.

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Speaker 2: This was about Seattle's defense.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald was truly terrible in this game, basically for

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Speaker 1: the whole game. Unfortunately, Bryce Young in the first half

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Speaker 1: was worse one point one yard per attempt in the

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Speaker 1: first half. I mean Seattle's defense two turnovers in the

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Speaker 1: third quarter, putting him in contention to score those two touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: and they kind of ran away with it from there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Seattle's defense in Seattle's run game, shocking League really

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Speaker 4: showed up to this game. I think it was three

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Speaker 4: to three at a half time, and Seattle basically ran

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Speaker 4: from one hundred yards in that first half, and it.

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Speaker 3: Was just Sam Darnold was horrible, just a.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, couldn't hit open guys, kept taking bad sacks, went

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Speaker 4: under the ball too long, had a bunch of weird

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Speaker 4: the passers around him, and just collapse on himself.

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Speaker 3: He just was not at all on rhythm. Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the defense built us out just because, like you said,

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Speaker 4: Bryce Shong had what he's been doing all season, he

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Speaker 4: has he's up and down games, and he had a

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Speaker 4: really bad game today, really down. I know Teddorron McMillan

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Speaker 4: was sick coming into the game and.

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Speaker 2: Zero catches or maybe one, yeah, maybe one catch, but.

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Speaker 4: Catch your five yards or four minutes and like you know,

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Speaker 4: you could say no excuse, but he didn't look himself.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, it really was just all

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Speaker 4: brace Shawn. He just could not get into a rhythm.

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Speaker 4: And Seattle's defense, we've talked about it this year. They

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Speaker 4: just travel. I mean, it's crazy how good they are

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Speaker 4: It was three to three going into half, and not

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Speaker 4: that I was ever like, oh we're dead. We're never

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Speaker 4: going to cover the number, but it make sure you realize, Okay,

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Speaker 4: we have a bad number, right, I think they closed

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Speaker 4: didn't need the touchdown. We need to touchdown and at

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Speaker 4: least a field goal. And yeah, Cooper Cup had a

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Speaker 4: But like you said, lucky for us. Bryce Young had

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Speaker 4: the Seattle team, like we've talked about, when they're flexing

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Speaker 4: the defense, it doesn't matter how bad Sam Donald is right,

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Speaker 4: they're gona keep giving them short fields and opportunities to

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Speaker 4: is a game Seattle. We're missing a lot of players

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Speaker 4: and didn't really matter. I think they lost I forget

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Speaker 4: But it was just like Seattle couldn't catch a break,

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Speaker 3: Their defense was so dominant. They just rolled this game.

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Speaker 1: You know, Sam Donald to begin the second half, well,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the first two drives in the game.

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Speaker 1: First drive, Seattle has a third and thirty one. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I don't convert second drive. They asked something like a

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Speaker 1: third and fifteen, third and twenty. They run a draw.

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Speaker 1: They actually convert it. First drive in the second half,

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Speaker 1: one out perfect pass thrown directly to a Carolina Panther's cornerback. Luckily,

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Speaker 1: Truba Hubbard fumbles on the very next play.

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Speaker 2: The Seahawks scored a.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown because basically they just start decided to start running

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's how we got bailed out there.

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Speaker 1: Like this Seattle defense, it's going to be great to

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Speaker 1: see next week, Like we know it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a field goal game depending on what happens tonight, but

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Speaker 1: right now to there are three point dogs on the

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Speaker 1: road at San Francisco next week. Oh no, now the

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Speaker 1: numbers moved one and a half. It was dude, this

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Speaker 1: number was three before I came upstairs. So someone's betting

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Speaker 1: this number down. We're going to talk about that in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's gonna be one of the key

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Speaker 1: games to talk about, all right, Simon New Orleans at Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee opened to a three point dog, closed closer to

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Speaker 1: two one and a half in some places two and

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Speaker 2: In the contest, Tyler Shuck.

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Speaker 1: On his rookie of the Year making drive, throws a

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Speaker 2: They go up twenty seven to twenty six. What was

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Speaker 1: About that is that the drive before had been his

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Speaker 1: anything with it, so Shuck gets to redeem himself with

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Speaker 1: a new Rookie of the Year game winning drift.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me just start from the top.

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Speaker 4: This is as nice as I can possibly beat the

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Speaker 4: chat because he is coming off of COVID.

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Speaker 3: Chad, you have one job. What is your one job?

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Speaker 2: Don't bet the Tennessee Titans. That's actually true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I.

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Speaker 4: Bet the Tennessee Titans, and you failed your job once again.

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Speaker 4: We would beat ten games up. We would be ten

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Speaker 4: games above our record if we just did not have

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Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans every week in our contest. And even

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Speaker 4: when they're up thirteen to nothing, I was like, we're

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Speaker 3: Then then got our main contest. I did not put them.

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Speaker 4: I'd switched them out and put the Colts plus six

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Speaker 4: and a half, which got very lucky cover, very lucky.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I was cursing your name the whole time.

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Speaker 4: You got me rooting against my guys. Shuck, who for

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Speaker 4: the believers out there there are, I twet it out.

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Speaker 4: We have like twenty believers in shuck who bet shuck

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Speaker 4: with us? Or just I should say mea cha. I

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Speaker 4: didn't believe plus one fifty Rookie of the Year now

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Speaker 4: two hundred to one, five or four weeks ago, five

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Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year. It's just he's the man in

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Speaker 4: this game. You I know, you were scared of him.

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Speaker 4: You were scared of Shuck. He would drop back and

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Speaker 4: hitting totally.

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Speaker 1: I was totally scared of him. Anytime cam Ward dropped back,

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Speaker 1: I was not scared. Anytime Tyler shut dropped back, I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he stud u three hundred and thirty three yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he was like seventy year eighty percent passing rate, two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: No, just it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I know he's been it's been bad teams he's been

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Speaker 4: beating up on but he's been beating up on him. Like,

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Speaker 4: it's really impressive how good he's been playing. They were

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Speaker 3: Cam Ward, you know, we live and die.

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Speaker 4: But him, he had a couple of incredible plays, incredible,

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Speaker 3: He burned us.

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Speaker 4: So I still believe until the very end, because I

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Speaker 3: But he's just can't do it.

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Speaker 4: Can't what even even on his incredible plays. As he

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Speaker 2: It was a fourth and ten play and his knee

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Speaker 1: It was a brilliant last second sort of backwards passed

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Speaker 1: that got them the first down upon further review with

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Speaker 3: Down, so legit, no joke.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to hear the word Tennessee in your

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Speaker 4: mouth next week if you bring up that game, I

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Speaker 4: swear to kind of freak the fuck out yet, So no, Tennise.

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Speaker 3: I just I can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I got to do to you

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Speaker 4: for you to stay away from Tennessee, but you somehow

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Speaker 4: got me back into it, and it's like, dude.

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Speaker 3: It was the literally the only job I gave you

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Speaker 3: this year. Just don't let us put tennis in the contest.

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Speaker 3: We put it in somehow believab.

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Speaker 1: Oh look, we got a little bit, We got a

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Speaker 1: little bit caught up in. They're five and three against

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Speaker 1: the spread the last eight games since Mike McCory took over,

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Speaker 1: and they've been playing better football and making better decisions

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Speaker 1: and not not doing the bonehead ill prepared concepts that

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Speaker 1: put them the positions where all of a sudden they

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Speaker 4: There are thirty one other teams. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: The wise guys loved them at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, the wise guys loved

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was terrible.

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Speaker 1: At one point, the Titans went for it on fourth

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Speaker 4: Certain teams Voodoo the Jags today that number got down

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Speaker 2: You're so right about Aaron Rodgers, Like every ball he

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Speaker 3: It was bizarre.

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Speaker 4: Eventually they're gonna have to throw a third and five

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Speaker 1: I live bet the Bills money line at plus three

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Speaker 3: But I do think that was right by the.

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Speaker 4: Our only hope was that kicked the extra point. We

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Speaker 4: this time, Chad, that two pointer just didn't go your way.

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Speaker 1: They basically only had him throw in pretty high leverage

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Speaker 1: situations for the Bills where they knew he was going

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Speaker 1: to throw and they could bring so much more pressure

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Speaker 1: than they had in the first half. And I just

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Speaker 1: thought he was super conservative and instead of trying to

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Speaker 1: make aggressive throws, which he did do in the first half,

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Speaker 1: he just sort of took those.

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Speaker 2: In front of him.

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Speaker 1: And now, unfortunately, it meant that they weren't gaining ground

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Speaker 1: on the Bills or improving their position on the Bills.

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Speaker 1: And then the Bills did what the Bills do and

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Speaker 1: scored those two touchdowns. But I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: don't blame I don't look at that and think, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, the Eagles are in real trouble. I thought

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Speaker 1: they played pretty well and then just were super super conservative,

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Speaker 1: hoping their defense could get that one extra stand in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it just doesn't make sense to me because it's like,

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Speaker 4: you're not good enough offensively to be conservative. You need

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Speaker 4: to get some type of rhythm head of the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Their offense has just been a nimacull season and this

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Speaker 4: has been the problem. Last year they could lean on

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Speaker 4: Saquon the run in the second half of That's what

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Speaker 4: was the magic syrup, right, they would dominate these teams

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Speaker 4: lean on Saquon the second half. And you saw in

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Speaker 4: this game Saquon just couldn't do anything. I think you

465
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Speaker 4: had less than four yards per carry. You just every

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Speaker 4: time he's getting hit in the backfield. And it's been

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Speaker 4: the quiet secret of these Eagles this whole season. Their

468
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Speaker 4: offensive line just not that good. So, yeah, it'll be

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Speaker 4: interesting what they're like in the playoffs. Right once Lane

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Speaker 4: Johnson's back. You saw Jalen Carter, how big of a

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Speaker 4: different teamate coming back in this lineup, So, like I said,

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Speaker 4: hopefully Eagles rest guys next week and ready to go

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Speaker 4: once they get to the playoffs, because it looks like

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Speaker 4: it might end up being them versus the Rams.

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Speaker 3: In round one.

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Speaker 1: We got the Bears plus three and a half tonight.

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Speaker 2: God, we were.

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Speaker 1: Like both of these games, so close to being three

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Speaker 1: and two heading into the Chicago Bears visiting the San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: One of our live viewers, Alison Norris, wants to wants

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Speaker 1: us to talk about how bad the NFC South is

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Speaker 1: because we got a Panthers box game next week about

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Speaker 1: to take the title for the NFC South. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to talk about that yet because I know we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about in our leans. But look, the

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Speaker 1: Panthers lost today to the Seahawks. Acceptable.

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Speaker 2: We planned on that. The bus lost to the Dolphins, which.

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Speaker 1: I thought was going to happen, and the busmo continues

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Speaker 1: to be the same, taking early lead and then blow

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 2: And they completely blew this game today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and shut out to Alis Norris. I see all

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Speaker 3: your tweets. She's a number diehards chat, She's been an

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Speaker 3: OG She's an original love Listen. I love this division

546
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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 4: And when we're in a spot where Carolina all they

548
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Speaker 4: need to do is tie this game against the Bucks

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Speaker 4: and they go to the playoffs at eight and one.

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Speaker 3: This is what I live for.

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Speaker 4: This is everything I'm all about. I hate these people

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Speaker 4: that want to reseed the playoffs. No, it's you win

553
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Speaker 4: your shitty division. You deserve to be in with home

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Speaker 4: field in Round one. So couldn't be more excited as

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Speaker 4: a better I'm dying, dying for the Panthers to win

556
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Speaker 4: because I'm going to one hundred percent bet on them

557
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Speaker 4: because I've been doing it all year, the up and down,

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Speaker 4: the fade, the ride, the fade, the ride week the week,

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Speaker 4: No doubt be on them upcoming. But it didn't even

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Speaker 4: matter what the number is going to be. They could

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Speaker 4: have been the favorite. I probably would have talked myself

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Speaker 4: into it. But is there gonna be an easy your

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Speaker 4: fade than them in the playoffs? Doesn't matter who they

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Speaker 4: play in the wild card round. It's like, my god,

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Speaker 4: if it's your Bears, I think the Bears will Smif

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Speaker 4: this team, it's gonna be really interesting what Carolina gets

567
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Speaker 4: matched up with.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, NFC South total train wreck. Someone put up some.

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Speaker 4: Crazy statu It was basically the Bucks, what are they

570
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Speaker 4: won in seven their last eight? And the guy wrote,

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Speaker 4: this team, if they win in week eighteen will make

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. And I love that to you. I was like,

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Speaker 4: that's so true. They just win one game in week eighteen.

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Speaker 4: After that run, they'll win. But yeah, we missed two

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Speaker 4: really easy ones today and you nailed it. That one

576
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: was a bad miss and the Patriots was a bad mess.

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Speaker 4: We should have been on that one. So as soon

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Speaker 4: as that game started, like you said, it's like, of

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Speaker 4: course they don't get enough fourth down. Of course the

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Speaker 4: Viorsiver runs the wrong route. Of course, Baker throws that

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Speaker 4: bad pick. It's just like you said, a train wreck

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Speaker 4: of you know, nine weeks now for this Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Team, that's got to be the coaching at some point,

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Speaker 1: even if they make the playoffs, you gotta wonder if

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Speaker 1: is going to stick.

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Speaker 3: Now you have to fowre.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's just as Baker gets like hernia surgery

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Speaker 4: into both his acls fixed and shoulder surgery, then I

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Speaker 4: give Todd Bowles a little leniency. What if nothing happens

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Speaker 4: with that and it's just all the whole head coach

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Speaker 4: and just that's what it has to be. It has

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Speaker 4: to be culture. It's just a total meltdown by this

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Speaker 4: team right now.

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Speaker 1: Another game that we want to talk about. Randy Savage

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Speaker 1: is watching. He'd like us to know if the Giants

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Speaker 1: should be our shame shame, shame for actually winning themselves

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Speaker 1: out of the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 2: They're not my shame this week, though.

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Speaker 1: That game ended in a brawl, so they should all

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Speaker 1: be shamed for deciding they were going to take it

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Speaker 1: so intensely and try at the end of the game

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Speaker 1: when nothing else mattered anymore. But oh lord, thank god

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Speaker 1: we talked ourselves out of the Raiders while Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: was trolling them with more and more videos of how

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Speaker 1: injured he is.

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Speaker 3: I don't watched.

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Speaker 2: I think I watched.

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Speaker 1: I watched half a series of that game after the

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Speaker 1: early games ended, while waiting for the Bills game to begin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you said, just a horrible game. Overall,

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Speaker 4: Dart actually played pretty well. I think overall the Giants

612
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: of the team played pretty well. And you saw why

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Speaker 4: the Raiders are just awful. It's just Geno Smith just

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Speaker 4: this whole season, how bad he is, just taking horrible sacks,

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Speaker 4: terrible spots and uh yeah, just you know, the Raiders

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Speaker 4: getting them one tick, getting your guy. It's uh, it's

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Speaker 4: all lined up now, Chad, And there's just there's no

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Speaker 4: way they win in the last week and screw up

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Speaker 4: this draft pick. So I get if I was a

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Speaker 4: Giants fan, I'd be pretty pissed, honestly. But you know,

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Speaker 4: like I talked about Jackson Dart, he want he needed

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Speaker 4: to win that game. He doesn't want anyone coming in

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Speaker 4: here and being controversy with the quarterback positions.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was I think that's right.

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Speaker 3: That was an old.

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Speaker 4: Timer though that this I think they drove the field finally,

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Speaker 4: Las Vegas, they scored a touchdown, and literally the ensuing kickoff,

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Speaker 4: the Giants returned it back, and it's just like, man,

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Speaker 4: this is just a totally horrible team. They just kept

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Speaker 4: showing Pet Carol on the sideline, you know, talking about it.

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Speaker 3: They think he's gonna be back next year.

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Speaker 4: And all I can think about is I wonder if

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Speaker 4: they're gonna let him keep that stupid hoodie of his

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Speaker 4: and all of his old merch he got for this

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Speaker 4: one year of work and just sent him about his way,

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Speaker 4: because you just you can't bring him back, especially with

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Speaker 4: the fact they're gonna be drafting the rookie quarterback. You

638
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Speaker 4: need to go get, you know, a great offensive mine.

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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of the a lot of talking

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Speaker 4: right now, our Brian Flores his new contract up for

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Speaker 4: the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: After seeing how it's played out.

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Speaker 4: Two in Miami, I don't know, I'd be yeah a

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Speaker 4: little getting a guy like Brian Floores coming.

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Speaker 1: I think if you're the Raiders and you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a new coach and you know you're drafting a quarterback,

647
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Speaker 1: you gotta get a guy who knows how.

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Speaker 2: To work with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: That's it out there there, Chad.

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Speaker 2: That's I was part That's what I was going to say, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know who that is.

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Speaker 1: There's no obvious choice to go fix the Raiders like

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Speaker 1: there was for the Bears, right, Like who's who's the

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Speaker 1: offensive genius who's been surprising us this year?

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Speaker 2: That would be a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: Who'd want to take over and work with a brand

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Speaker 1: new number one overall quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

659
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: I mean you could look at the Sea of the Saints.

660
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a lot of Kellen Moore. But whatever

661
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: they've done with Shuck between the QB coach that of

662
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: all the quarterbacks is to me week to week keeps

663
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: making the most progress.

664
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: So that's the name to watch.

665
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 4: Or whoever, I don't know who it is, But whoever

666
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: the OC is or the secondmental line Cohen like guy

667
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: that's learning from the best, right the Jacks twelve wins now,

668
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: it's insane. So maybe our guys, we just don't know

669
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: a Raider right now. But you're right, that's probably the

670
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: way to go. But I just can't get over how

671
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: good Floors has been defensively. The Vikings just amazing, yeah, amazing.

672
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, But when I watch him on the sideline and

673
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: I think he's great I don't know who's going to

674
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: give him another shot when he's in the middle of

675
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: sue in the.

676
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: NFL, you know what I mean.

677
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

678
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: It's just it's a real it's a real tricky one.

679
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: You just mentioned the New England Patriots at the New

680
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: York Jets, and you know wise wise words this morning

681
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: when I tried to make the case we were never

682
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: going to put it in, but you explained to me

683
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: why we couldn't put it in, and just about couldn't

684
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: put the Jets in and in a normally blind smash

685
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: spot for a two touchdown underdog at home against the

686
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: team with so many injuries, all Drake May did was

687
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: throw five touchdowns to five different receivers go over four

688
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: thousand yards. They clinched the AFC East. Drake May has

689
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: probably put himself position to win the MVP, he humbly

690
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: said after the game. When he was told he joined

691
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Drew Bledsoe as the only Patriots quarterback

692
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: to throw for four thousand yards. He was asked, how

693
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: does it feel to be in their category? He goes,

694
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: I am not in their category. So yeah, they dominated

695
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: and I think he only threw like twenty passes. He

696
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: completed twenty one passes, five of them for touchdowns. Twenty

697
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: five percent of his passes were for touchdowns.

698
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, nineteen of twenty one nineteen completion of twenty one

699
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 4: pass attempts ninety percent completion percentage. And I saw someone

700
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: put up his numbers next to Lamar's numbers. Basically the

701
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: only guys ever deal what he's did at twenty three

702
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: and it was a year Lamar one MVP, so you're

703
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: not far off saying he is, you know, close to

704
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 4: get MVP now. I think he's down a plus two

705
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: hundred plus one seventy five and a couple of different books.

706
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: Well worth it.

707
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: Right, if Stafford lays an egg, you know this upcoming

708
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 4: game against Atlanta or in week eighteen, I talked about it,

709
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: like these these writers, they rarely give this award to

710
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: wild card teams. It's just they like to give to

711
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: the quarter a couple one or two seeds, so they're

712
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: gonna be in quite a spot. Like to me, as

713
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: much love and respectors getting to Stafford, right, he's had

714
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: a much tougher schedule and what he's done is so

715
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 4: oppressive and he's earned it. It's like the the LEO

716
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 4: when it in the Oscar right, it's like this he

717
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 4: put in all the work all these years. That might

718
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: not be his best performance ever. This might not be

719
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: Stafford's best performance ever, but he's do one like he's

720
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: always been. This guy who's been at the top of

721
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 4: the leader board. He's in Detroit, he's kind of you

722
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: never could give him that type of award, and we

723
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 4: came to La they always had such a good run game.

724
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 4: He was never gonna get the touchdowns he needed to

725
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: get this award. And this year, I mean they've really

726
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 4: leaned into the red zone touchdown passes right up to McVay.

727
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: Never really did before, but with DeVante Adams and Puka,

728
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: these big body receivers, they really threw a lot of

729
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 4: touchdowns and his numbers just look insane. So Drake may

730
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 4: put him in a weird spot like he's really do

731
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 4: he really needs to throw for another three touchdowns on

732
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: Monday night or up Tuesday morning, and all of a

733
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: sudden they're at a picking because I just think this

734
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: Strake made the level he's been playing out. Once again,

735
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 4: it's been bad teams, but it's incredible, Like he just

736
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: does not have these letdown games.

737
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: He's letdown spots.

738
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 4: So I hate it as a as a Newland hater,

739
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: I am just hoping it's a one year wonder flash

740
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 4: in the pan.

741
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: But he looks he looks so free.

742
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: It looks really good.

743
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what does in the playoffs

744
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: because we know, we know the stats right, first time

745
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: stars in the playoffs, it's just tends to be disastrous.

746
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 4: But he looks like the neo, the freak, the matrix breaker,

747
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 4: just the one of the kind type of guys.

748
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: So I cannot wait to see it.

749
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: Because the AFC is just wide open, and you know,

750
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: they get healthy this Patriots team, like we said coming

751
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: to this game, they had a lot of people out.

752
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: They can get guys back.

753
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 4: Defensively, get the offensive line healthy again, be really interesting

754
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: this this Patriots team come in.

755
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: To playoffs, Will Campbell, Milton Williams, Travon Henderson coming back.

756
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: That'll be interesting once they're fully healthy and they're playing

757
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: top notch talent caliber talent every single week. One more

758
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: game I want to talk about before we get into

759
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: the next categories. Yeah, uh, the Colts in the the Jags.

760
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: This game, it opened at six and a half it

761
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: got bent down to four and a half, we both

762
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: walked away from it when it got below six, landed

763
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: on six, and I got to say credit to Trevor

764
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: Lawrence and credit to Liam cong because they were down

765
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: ten to nothing, and then they were down ten seven,

766
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: and at the end of the first half they were driving,

767
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence threw a classic bad Trevor Lawrence pick

768
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: in the Colts end zone that basically closed out the

769
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: first half. They could have gone up fourteen to ten.

770
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: Instead they were going to the locker room down ten seven.

771
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: Then they went ahead again and fell behind again, and

772
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: they kept coming back, and Trevor Lawrence was just making

773
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: good throws and clutch situations, hard throws to make. He

774
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: didn't panic, he didn't make his usual stupid plays. I

775
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: was impressed, like they had no reason, no reason covering

776
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: that game.

777
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was honestly the only reason I played

778
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 4: the Colts at six and a half in that contest,

779
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 4: which is because all the professionals I knew in the

780
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 4: world were like, dude, you have to play that number.

781
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: This number should be you know, five and a half,

782
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 4: four and a half. And then also it was three

783
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: and a half by kickoff, and it's like, all right,

784
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: I'll follow these professionals, even though I do not believe this,

785
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 4: and I had bet. I told you i'd bet into

786
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 4: the Jags just because of that crazy trend. Now the

787
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 4: Colts now are three and eighteen against this Jaguars team

788
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: against this bread and it's just the craziest stat Like

789
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 4: that's why I once the number moved that much, I

790
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 4: was like, all right, I have to bet this, especially

791
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: now three and a half. But yeah, the books threaded

792
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: the needle. They were going to cover that three and

793
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: a half, and then they went forward on their own

794
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: side of the field on a fourth down and you know, Rivers.

795
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: It was a fun story, but it's honestly played out

796
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 4: exactly how I thought it was going to play out.

797
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 4: Where he can put together a good driver too, but

798
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: it's just it's never gonna be consistent enough to win games.

799
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 4: And unfortunately for them this type of game, the Jags

800
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: just sold out to stop the running. I think Jonathan

801
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: Taylor barely averaged three yards per carry it. They just

802
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: basically said you're gonna have to beat us with Rivers

803
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 4: and he tried his best chat but you knew that

804
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: pick was eventually coming. Yeah, get another pick that was

805
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: dropped and cool, story was really fun, Like I honestly

806
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 4: got a little emotional watching just to start of the game.

807
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 3: He was getting like interviewed, and it's like this is surreal.

808
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: Like I can't believe forty four year old, fat faced

809
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers is out here slanging still. And like we said,

810
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: last week, aast the forty nine ers. If they had

811
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 4: somewhat of a defense, he would have won that game

812
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 4: in Briantown, like he was slinging, and this week he

813
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 4: looked a little bit like that the arm had finally

814
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: caught up to him. Was a little bit of a

815
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 4: noodle arm at some point. And yeah, seventeen seventeen completions

816
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: on thirty attempts. It just it was never working for

817
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 4: this offense. And uh, like we've been saying the Jaguars

818
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, the biggest thing he unlocked this year was

819
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: using his legs. And that's a crazy stat It was

820
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 4: basically he's only their quarterback. I think then Hurts and

821
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: Allen that rushed for more than eight touchdowns, threw for

822
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: more than three thousand yards this this season. So total

823
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: props to Trevor Lawrence and you know, we've talked with

824
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 4: Lin Cohen upper Coach of the Year. It's just really

825
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 4: impressive with the Stax teams done. And I'm like you,

826
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: I there was a there was a minute therehe It's like, oh,

827
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: the Cultu are gonna win this game, and now Houston's

828
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: gonna steal this division, and that the Jags in the

829
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: second half they found a way through all that anniversary

830
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 4: So it's it's really impressive.

831
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Simon, who would you like to shame

832
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: this week?

833
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: I had a couple options, but you gotta go with

834
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 4: the Bucks.

835
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: Gotta go with the Bucks.

836
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: Just I guess shame Baker Mayfield because he is the

837
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 4: leader of the Bucks. So shame on you, Baker. It's

838
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: just total letdown after letdown. Like, well, we were watching

839
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 4: that game. He had guys open. He's just so bad

840
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: right now, He's so inaccurate and uh, you know, the

841
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: run game was obviously really disappointing.

842
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: This game. We let them down.

843
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 4: But you know, Baker to face that Miami secondary and

844
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 4: only come olia with seventeen points in that type of

845
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 4: game again, Baker, September, that's thirty four points easy, and

846
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 4: you know another weird game where you know a Mecca

847
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 4: booka five targets, three catches for twenty yards.

848
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: What happened? Like, it's just bizarre.

849
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: This guy was by far the best rookie catch on

850
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: fire for through seven eight weeks and he's totally falling

851
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: off Mike Evans. Seven targets, three catches, I think he

852
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: had thirty yards. Like, it was just all negative. So

853
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: just total shame on this Bucks team. Just as a

854
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: fan of the Eagles when they had their meltdown, it

855
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 4: was honestly the worst eight weeks of my life. This

856
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: Bucks meltdown is even worse. I had someone compare it

857
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 4: to that Eagles team. I said it might be worse

858
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: because this is just incredible how bad it's been. But

859
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 4: they can save it all in Week eighteen by winning,

860
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: so pretty pretty insane.

861
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, shame on Baker. Just totally disappointed.

862
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: Shame on the Tennessee Titans defense. So awesome in the

863
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: first half.

864
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons was tackling guys downfield, he was tackling guys

865
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage, he was forcing fumbles, he

866
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: was getting sacks, ten points allowed. Tyler Shuck was in

867
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: check second half twenty four points allowed, fourth quarter fourteen

868
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: points allowed. Those two scoring drives were both four plays.

869
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: One of those scoring drives went for eighty yards in

870
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: two minutes and twenty eight seconds.

871
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: Another scoring drive.

872
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: Four plays sixty four yards in one minute and ten seconds,

873
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, that doesn't count the three

874
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: play seventy yard, one minute, forty four second drive that

875
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: ended with a fumble at the goal line, which the

876
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: Titans could then not convert. As bad as cam Ward was,

877
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: they did get twenty six points, and he gave seven

878
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: points to the Saints. He did, and the Saints and

879
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: the Titans defense, with multiple chances, could not stop the

880
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: Saints from going on long drives down the field in

881
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: very short amount of time and coming back from multiple

882
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: multiple double digit deficits. Shame, shame, shame on the Tennessee Titans.

883
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's shame on me, but really

884
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: it's shame on the Tennessee Titans. Simon, who's your hero?

885
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of good options this week, and

886
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go a little off track just to give

887
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 4: this guy some shine because it was just so impressive

888
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 4: and cost me some money. That's her damn sure Derrick

889
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 4: Henry Hero of the Week. I mean, I'll go through

890
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: the numbers just because how insane they were, But you

891
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: had two hundred and sixteen rushing yards four touchdowns. He

892
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: moved into the fourth all time in rushing touchdowns and

893
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 4: he is now in the top ten of rushing yards.

894
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry, he has had two seasons in Baltimore. In

895
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: both seasons, he's rushed rover one thousand, two hundred yards

896
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 4: and has over twelve touchdowns in both seasons. It's just

897
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 4: you look through his numbers in his career, what he

898
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 4: did Tennessee and now what he's doing for the Ravens,

899
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 4: and it's just, you know, when you're watching a Hall

900
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: of Famer, right, we knew coming in this guy at all,

901
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 4: this potential was this giant freak. You just always wonder

902
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: how his body would hunt hold up because he runs

903
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: standing up like AP does Adrian Peterson. They don't lean down,

904
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: they don't get get low, they run straight up, and

905
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 4: they take so much contact with that big being that

906
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 4: big of a target doesn't matter. This man is just

907
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 4: he's the best. It's so incredible watching him. And I

908
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: joked with you the last week we got really lucky

909
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: with our Newland bet. Yes, Horrible did us a huge

910
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 4: favor and stopped putting him in the game. I don't

911
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 4: know if you saw the Derek Henrick quotes after the game.

912
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: He's just basically saying, this is why I train. He's like,

913
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 4: I get better as a game goes along. This is

914
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: what makes me so great. It's like that's a little

915
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: shot at his head, coach, being like, you're out of

916
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 4: your mind. That let me get touches in the fourth quarters.

917
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, here of the week, Derrick Henry. Just incredible game.

918
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: My game.

919
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 4: I honestly thought Malik Wilson play that type of way

920
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 4: in Green Bay would play really well defensively, they never

921
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 4: had a chance. Derrick Henry was on one just dominant

922
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 4: that game, and step Only obviously played really well, But

923
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 4: that was a total Derek Henry type of game. Two

924
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 4: sixteen yards, four touchdowns.

925
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: Again.

926
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they kept listing all the career records. He was

927
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: basically climbing the charts on total yards, touchdowns, multiple touchdown games,

928
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: touchdown games, multiple touchdown games with one hundred yards, like

929
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: truly incredible. The company that he is keeping now, it's

930
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: only people that are Hall of Famers.

931
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

932
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: I love every time they show that.

933
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: I love seeing Curtis Mortny. That was just my one

934
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 4: of my favorite careers ever. Just the guy could never

935
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 4: wear out.

936
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: He just just ran.

937
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: He just freaking ran.

938
00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: In the spirit of going back, my here of the

939
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: Week is actually Brian Flores because that defense had that

940
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: was a one sided game. They had Max Brozman playing quarterback.

941
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: I think he had fifty six yards passing, and they

942
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: were going up against a team that for the past

943
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: couple of years has been a juggernaut offense.

944
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: And while you and I can keep.

945
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: Saying they weren't that good this year, the announcers were

946
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: glazing the Lions like Jared Goff was a MVP candidate.

947
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: None of that we believed was true.

948
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: As good as their stats are, they made Jamiir Gibbs

949
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: Luke mediocre. They made Jared Goff look like the guy

950
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: the Rams traded. They made Aman Russ Saint Brown disappear,

951
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: They made Jamison Williams disappear. They made that offensive line

952
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: look like they are a train wreck of an offensive line.

953
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: They knocked the Detroit Lions out of the playoffs, a

954
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: juggernaut team in the past two years. I don't think

955
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: the Lions need a reset. I think the lines are

956
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: going to be fine, but I think they put them

957
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: out of their misery the Vikings did for this season,

958
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: and that Vikings defense was freaking awesome. And if they

959
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: actually do get a quarterback and Brian Flores does stay,

960
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: I would be really excited having a Vikings fan because

961
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: they played with such passion and spirit and strategy and

962
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: he knew exactly which dials to turn at the exact

963
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: right time in that game on Christmas.

964
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: So you said the Vikings have been a top three

965
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: defense this season, Jed, I.

966
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: Did not say that.

967
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: No, would you would you say? Damn it? I was

968
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: just open, you're gonna set me up.

969
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 4: I just want to bring up once again, Jalen hurts

970
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: through for three hundred and twenty six yards, three touchdowns,

971
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: no picks.

972
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: See, I wasn't going to say that.

973
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: I like, to me, that's my whole point. Though they're

974
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 3: they're legit right.

975
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: They've had that.

976
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: They've had their moments when they've been great, but they've

977
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: also had moments where they've gotten beat up by teams

978
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: that shouldn't have beat them up and teams that are

979
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: really really good, and they made those teams look healthy.

980
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: But on this day they were freaking awesome when they

981
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: knew they had no backup, like they had to be

982
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: perfect because.

983
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: They had met at negative like seven yards passing.

984
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right, Simon says, Seattle minus seven, Nice job,

985
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: Chad choice, Houston plus two and a half. Good job,

986
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: brass balls, Cleveland plus three, Nice job brocking a hard

987
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: plays Buffalo minus one and a half. That's a bummer,

988
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: sharp fish a square Chad had Tennessee. Simon out Chicago

989
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: favorite Parlay Seattle, yes, Green Bay, No Tampa Bay, no Rams,

990
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: we don't know. Bills, no underdog Parlay, Houston, yes, Bears,

991
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: we don't know Tennessee no, Cleveland, yes, Las Vegas no, Simon.

992
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: There are two games we got to talk about for

993
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: our early leans in Week eighteen. Number one, Carolina opened

994
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: as a three and a half point road underdog against

995
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

996
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 2: I bet the three and a half.

997
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: I also bet the money line on the Carolina Panthers.

998
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: Your take on that game.

999
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 3: I don't hate it.

1000
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 4: And before we dive in though live, the Bears just

1001
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: moved to plus four and a half because I guess

1002
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 4: they have like ten ten guys with the flu right now,

1003
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 4: just cold nightmare.

1004
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: For it's not good. It's not good.

1005
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I told you, didn't, I don't. I didn't

1006
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: care what the number was gonna be. I was gonna

1007
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 4: blindly bet the Panthers. I just I've been doing it

1008
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 4: all season. Have zero faith in the books. I cannot

1009
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 4: believe they hung up three.

1010
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: Just I'm shocked.

1011
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: Actually bizarre number by the books.

1012
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 4: So I'll get more word on this if we're stepping

1013
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: in it right here, but I'll take the three while

1014
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 4: at last, Just like that Seattle game, I was gonna

1015
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: give out the three, but obviously that's gone. So yeah,

1016
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 4: for this Carolina game, I'm like you immediately, I'm gonna

1017
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 4: grab that three.

1018
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: It's moving to three very soon.

1019
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: It's at plus three and a half minus one fifteen

1020
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: at some books, it's at plus three at other books.

1021
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: So get it while you can.

1022
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: The other game, Pittsburgh hosting the Baltimore Ravens. They opened

1023
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: as three point underdogs. I also bet the Pittsburgh Steelers

1024
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: in this spot.

1025
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 4: Yeap, where the suckers, I mean, there's nothing nothing to say,

1026
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: nothing to pross people listen to this show. They knew

1027
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: immediately we'd be betting Pittsburgh at that number. That's see

1028
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 4: the definition of like Tomlin row Ross spot. Yep, I

1029
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: hate it. I knew it was coming as soon as

1030
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: they lost that game, Like, oh my god, I hope

1031
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: they at least give us a three when they open this,

1032
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 4: not a two and a half.

1033
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: And so I'm with you.

1034
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 4: I know it's a sucker bet right now, but I

1035
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 4: have to grab that number. It's just does it go

1036
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 4: up to three and a half. I would be honestly

1037
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: shocked see the professionals coming heavy on the Ravens. But

1038
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: it's it's a crazy game where I think most people

1039
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: are going to have the model. The Ravens is a

1040
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 4: much better team, especially when there's no Dk Metcalfe. You saw,

1041
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 4: like you said, that was a big obviously it's some

1042
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: metrics today with Pittsburgh.

1043
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's a really tough game.

1044
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: I think we both are like blindly drawn to uh

1045
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 4: just simply taking that's just very us.

1046
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think I'll be honest, my.

1047
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: God, Chad Bear has already scored a touchdown. Really, yeah,

1048
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 4: it must have been a kickoff or something.

1049
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: You wanted. Oh man, look at us.

1050
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: This might be as good as it gets.

1051
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: To bet the Niners and bet the under.

1052
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 3: Rock party picked six by TJ. Edward. Wow, holy ship,

1053
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: what a start.

1054
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know what. My kid literally just

1055
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: texted me the exact text.

1056
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: What a start.

1057
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: We're locked in.

1058
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: Let me just say one thing about the Steelers.

1059
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: About the I think the Ravens might have lost that

1060
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: game if Moleague Will stays in. That defense was terrible

1061
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: and they were getting beat by a second string quarterback

1062
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: who was destroying them with no running game. I think

1063
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: I think they got real issues in their in their defense,

1064
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: in the passing game.

1065
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's funny like that Green Bay team. I

1066
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: think I saw they're gonna everybody now and they're gonna

1067
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: play that kid that came in that looked totally lost. Yeah,

1068
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 4: you can get Minnesota minus five and a half right now.

1069
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 4: Why do we not take that like they're they're playing

1070
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 4: for real. Their defense is playing for real. Extended rest

1071
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 4: against the Green Bay team that could give two shits

1072
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 4: about that game, especially the floor. He's not gonna be

1073
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: wasting a week of prep on that. He's gonna be

1074
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 4: praying for the playoffs, knowing he's gonna be the seventh seeds.

1075
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 4: So I was shocked they opened Minnesota five and a half.

1076
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 4: I could only see that getting up to seven. Just

1077
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 4: one of those early numbers that when they opened I was.

1078
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 4: I was pretty surprised by be careful though, like I

1079
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 4: immediately bet the Chargers about realizing Herbert might not be

1080
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 4: playing against Denver in that game, because I don't know

1081
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 4: if the Chargers can't move their playoffs spot. But they

1082
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 4: opened five and a half at Denver, and we talk

1083
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: all the time Herbert anything above three in his career.

1084
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 4: He's eleven and two against the spread as a dog.

1085
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: So if it is Herbert and they're all playing, I

1086
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: think we got a great number. If he is out,

1087
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 4: I can just buy all that position later. But that

1088
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: was just an early number that jumped out to me

1089
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: right away.

1090
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying to bet Minnesota as we speak.

1091
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: And just the last one a game I just found interesting.

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Speaker 4: It's you know, I know, it's tough because we just

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Speaker 4: lost on you know, our I saige that we just

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Speaker 4: won on Cleveland. The Cleveland's on the road at Cincinnati,

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Speaker 4: and they've just been an absolute juggernaut. It feels like

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Speaker 4: down the stretch here of Cincinnati, not just defensively, offensively obviously. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're minus seven, minus one, fifteen ten, a couple of books.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it just in case it goes up.

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Speaker 4: I just when they're humming like this, Cincinnati, they're they're

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Speaker 4: one of the better teams in football. Shock in league

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Speaker 4: Cleveland now coming off another home win. We talked their

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Speaker 4: defense simply does not travel, so that would be an

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Speaker 4: interesting game. I'm just gonna grab that one just a

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Speaker 4: little early now, just in case number doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I like that idea, Simon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we k the again and people, it's a weird

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Speaker 4: week where it's I play a lot of these numbers

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Speaker 4: just because I think there's me a ton of movement

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Speaker 4: depending on teams, how they're playing it, and how the

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Speaker 4: resting guys. So yeah, it's just the biggest one. Just

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Speaker 4: be careful about that Chargers number. But I do think

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Speaker 4: there is value there to grabbing it early. The five

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Speaker 4: and a half, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm just uh, I'm getting that one done too

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Speaker 1: as we speak. Did I get it done?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, big game we're gonna want to watch

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Speaker 1: are definitely the Panthers in the Box and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens. That was Sharper Square. We are waiting

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Speaker 1: on the Bears plus three and a half. We lost

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Speaker 1: with the Bills minus one and a half. We won

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Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns plus three and a half. We

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Speaker 1: won with the Seattle Seahawks minus seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: We lost with the Tennessee Titans plus two and a half.

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Speaker 2: You better quit Bullston around.

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Speaker 3: I'm not having this bulls. Better get your clients right.

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Speaker 3: Ro'll get him right for you