WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Mr. Fix-Its 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:08.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:18.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is nick shot 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:22.160 streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.880 Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:35.000 and Nicky Spagnola. Hello again, sports fans, and welcome to 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.919 another crazy Tuesday here in the s WBC Mortgage studios 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.720 for Mickey Spagnola at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.040 I'm in my own s WBC Mortgage studio at home, 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:52.320 and Everson Walls is in his as well. And have 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.440 we recovered from Sunday yet, gentlemen? No, I have not. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.319 I can. He'll continue as if this is just a 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:08.679 continual show. I could continue from yesterday easily if I 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.280 wanted to, But I'm gonna this is mix shots, so 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.440 I'm gonna let you guys have it. Y'all go ahead, No, 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.160 all right, I'm very good. I'm recovered. Uh. You know, 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.080 I've learned over all these years that when they throw 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.040 in a game like that, that ain't on me. So 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:29.880 uh and I and I dug a little bit more 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.520 into it. Today. Finally got a chance to watch the 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:37.200 majority of the all twenty two. So yeah, I'm I'm 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:45.280 and loaded ready to go. All right, Yeah, just educate 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.720 all of us. Uh. In fact, I got through the 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.880 first quarter, and I had looked at the TV copy 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.400 of the third quarter after the game on Sunday night 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:59.000 and Monday morning, and finally the all twenty two appeared 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.560 on Game ass and so I was able to start 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.840 diving into that. I mean, I just don't like the 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.640 thirty six hour or forty eight hour delay on it. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.400 And so one of the things that I was talking 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.720 about yesterday that you obviously, Mickey saw as the game 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.520 transpired because you were in the press box and can 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.600 see who's on the field, is they use that five 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.440 man front from the get go in that game yesterday 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.880 or on Sunday, And you know, they to me, they 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:31.760 just don't have the personnel to play a three four 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:36.240 defense and they had to in this case, and they 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.920 don't have a Sam linebacker. I mean Alden Smith is 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.960 not a four to three Sam linebacker, and so they 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.880 have by necessity, are having to play that, especially against 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.359 a run defense, a run offense like the Brown's head 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.400 to have enough guys on the field, and it ain't working. 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.840 I think you must have read my column yesterday because 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.400 I said, you know, I hate to come to four 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.960 game inclusions because they're still twelve to go and don't 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.160 mean to jump the gun. And I understand that they've 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:10.680 got if we include Gerald McCoy, eight starters not playing 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:17.840 at this point. But they don't have enough linebackers. They 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:23.480 don't have the personnel to play a three four defense, 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.119 which for some reason, even in the second half, they 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:31.519 consistently tried playing this three four. And the other thing 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:36.120 they don't have is the ability of these defensive ends. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.480 Even if they want to line up with a four 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.760 man front to use one of those guys as the 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.760 strong side linebacker, they don't have the recognition on the 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.240 line of scrimmage to do that. And so I'm glad 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.720 to see somebody else saw that, you know, And I 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:54.280 was just telling somebody today, I said, you know, when 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.360 you think of a and Everson, you chime in here, 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.040 you think of a three four defense. So you got 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:05.360 those outside linebackers, but the defensive ends part of the three. 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:09.120 They're usually these big, gargantuan guys for summer, and I 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:13.040 got this vision of techniques, Yeah, I got this vision 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.440 of DeForest Buckner, you know, some some big old dude 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.760 that's six, yeah, three hundred pounds. They don't have that. 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.680 They got these little, short, squatty bodies in there, and 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.800 they're trying to play a three four And then the 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.839 worst part of it, And you know, I hate to 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.680 come down on this guy, but dot Terry Poe. I mean, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.880 I hear all this criticism Jalen Smith and everything, but 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.200 he doesn't do very much up there for me. And 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.080 so they just don't have the personnel to do it. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.320 And I don't understand why they're trying to force it. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.680 They've got three techniques, like like I think at some 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.719 point they got to think about using if they're in 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:56.560 a four man line, Tyrone Crawford's got to be a 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.080 three technique and if he's not a three technique, and 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.000 they need him to play defensive end to hold down 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.440 the edge because they are not holding down the edge. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:12.200 Those guys are so insistent on penetraining. And then they 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.040 and then when the play goes the other way, they're 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.400 out of the play. They didn't hold down the edge 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.440 at all. So uh, and then the other thing, And 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.239 I gotta get on this soap box because I probably 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.720 listened to too much talk radio this morning, but this 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:32.440 idea that they didn't give any effort. No, they gave effort. 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.360 They just weren't good enough. You know. I heard I 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:39.960 heard a criticism of Jalen Smith on the fifty yard 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:44.280 Odell end Around touchdown. Right, he was chasing him down 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.039 for thirty yards. He just couldn't catch them. He was 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:51.560 the only one that ef Yeah. Yes, And I heard 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.719 somebody say he was loafing on that play. I said, well, 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.120 if he loafed, he loafed for thirty yards at top speed. 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.159 So I think what people need to do is quit 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.720 making stuff up on why they got beat. They just 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.359 got beat. You know, sometimes you're not good enough or 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:13.320 sometimes you get out foxed. But you know what I 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.279 hate to see is, you know, everybody's taking notes on 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.840 what happened in this game, just the way they took 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.920 notes on their inability to pass coverage the previous game. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:30.240 So there, I got, you're done and we're good. Ah, 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.840 that's good stuff. Well I'm gonna chime in like you 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.159 allowed me to. I'm glad you got that out of 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:39.680 the way. But the first thing is that game itself, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.680 the game plan we were outschemed. Let's just be real 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.880 about it. We were outschemed. We were outcoached. We I 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:51.600 talked about yesterday about how no matter what your personnel is, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.560 you have to be able to make your game plan 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.120 adapt to not just your personnel, but who you're going 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.960 to be playing that particular Sunday, I saw us as 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.400 being a very just like last year, just like the 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:10.760 year before, I saw us being very stubborn about our 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.640 game plan. You can tell early on if your game 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.720 plan is gonna work, and you can tell what adjustments 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.120 are going to be be made before the first quarter 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.400 is over, especially depending on how much the opposition has 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.320 the ball. We made no adjustments, just like we've done 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.480 in the previous seasons. It reminds me of the Atlanta game. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.560 You know, you just let Dad get get pummeled out there. 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:37.200 Never made the adjustment offensively, well defensively, is what we 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.680 did this particular time. So all I can say about 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.640 that is I hope we don't play another team that 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:50.280 has that type of formation or personnel that they rely upon. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.800 What we have shown is that whoever we plays against 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.640 us in the future, they will have that package prepared 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.800 for us. Even though this may not be the opposition's 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.120 game plan or what their their mantra is, what their 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.040 culture is. They're going to have a moment or a 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.800 game plan situation where they're gonna say, the Cowboys cannot 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.160 stop the run with this particular personnel in the game. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.760 That's gonna be something they'll see throughout the entire rest 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.880 of the season. So for the for the other twelve 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.280 games that we're gonna see every team we play, if 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.440 they don't already have it in their package, they're gonna 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.600 have that personnel package in their game plan when they 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.000 need when they play the Cowboys and when they want 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.920 to keep the Cowboys offense off the field, when they 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.400 want to keep that running game off the field. It's 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.439 like trying to keep Buffalo's Kate Kate, What is the 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.280 k gun offense off the field. You're gonna have to 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.320 have a good running game, just like the Giants did 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.840 in Super Bowl twenty five. That's what you're gonna have 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.880 to have. And the other thing is your d line. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.040 You talked about Pole, he's not the only one. If 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:11.520 you're going to let your offensive lineman gain position on 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.920 you so that he can therefore gain position on the 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.920 next level, which is the linebacker Jaylen Smith in this example, 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.360 You're gonna have to make a play as that D lineman. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.280 If you let that D line, if you let that 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.400 offensive lineman get past you to go to the next 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.560 level and cut off that linebacker, then you, as a 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:38.080 defensive lineman, you better shoot the gap and make that play. Otherwise, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:42.760 you have to keep your roaming linebacker such as a 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.760 Jayleen Smith, such as a Joe Thomas. You have to 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.719 keep them free so that they can what we used 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.360 to call tango up and down the line. Scrimmit, that's 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:55.200 all you have that that middle linebacker is supposed to 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.280 be the guy that fills that gap when the when 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.000 the offense runs wide. If he doesn't feel that gap, 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.600 then that means that he's been blocked. If he's been blocked, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.760 that means that the D lineman should be the one 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.240 that take take the blame for that. We saw that 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.120 all game long, We saw it all last year. We 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.520 saw it in the Thanksgiving game. We saw it against Buffalo, 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.640 we saw it against Minnesota. So right now we are 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.120 looking at a deja vu MoMA that we just can't 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.640 wake up from. So, Mickey, Mickey, what do you think 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.000 their defensive game plan would have been in this case 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:31.240 against Cleveland, if they had either Layton vander Esh or 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.200 Sean Lee available, what do you think scheme wise they 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.360 would have done on defense. I think if they had 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.760 both of those guys available now, not both of them, 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.120 not both of them, just just one of them. Dala 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.280 needed was one of them, vander Esh or Sean Lee. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.880 If they had vander Esh, then he's in the middle. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:58.959 And see, here's the other thing about Jayalen Smith. He's 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.480 never played that week side linebacker. I don't think this 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:06.520 is a position change for him and his recognition on 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:11.080 as that that position, to me is like playing safety. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.400 You've got to recognize what's going to happen before it happens. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.240 You have to be able to diagnose things. And I 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.319 don't think he does that well out there, not yet anyway, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.959 because he's never played that spot before. He's used to 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.439 being in the middle. I think with I think with 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.679 vander Esch in the middle, he's he's a physically stronger 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.480 guy than Joe Thomas, and maybe he can fight off 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.080 some of those blocks. And then the other thing is 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.120 he yea and it last year. And then the other 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.320 thing is you would, you you would, you would, you 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.560 would have the ability to play a real linebacker as 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.800 the strong side linebacker instead of a defensive end Dorrence 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.000 Armstrong or Alden Smith who aren't used to play in 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.240 that spot. And that's what they try to do. And 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.120 they don't have enough linebackers right now now. If you 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.360 had both of those guys, Vanderish in the middle, Sean 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.760 Lee is the strong side linebacker where he started most 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.000 of his games last year, and then Jayleen on the 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.520 week side. And if Jalen's not working on the week side, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.040 do you put Sean over there? You put Jalen on 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.480 the strong side. But they have Here's what you would 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.000 Here's what you would see. I was I was gonna 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.360 talk about this yesterday, Bill because you brought this up 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.880 about Sean Lee. The we know the weakness of Sean 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.040 Lee is the fact that first of all, he just gives, 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.959 he goes all out okay, and he's usually gonna injure 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.320 himself because he's gonna stick his head in there, even 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.160 though he might be the major disadvantage. What we see, 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.240 what we would see with Sean Lee is number one 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:53.000 quicker recognition on any play that they have That's how 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:54.840 Sean Lee gets hurt a lot. And this is not 0:12:54.880 --> 0:13:00.480 a put a put down. He's always quickly wreck acknowledging 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.319 everything and he shoots that gap so fast. That's how 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.319 sometimes he ends up getting injured. But that's also how 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:10.199 he makes so many plays. He realized he's not strong 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.360 enough Bill, so that's why he shoots the gap, tries 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:17.000 to blow everything up for his teammates, or before everything 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.880 gets started by the offense. He stalls their momentum from 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.640 the beginning of the play, before it even gets started. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:29.439 If you're talking Vanderesh with what we've seen, vanderesh recognition 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.800 is not as good, but he's also stronger. The problem 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.520 we had last year was, first of all, he was 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.120 a little bit injured, so he was really not at 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:42.360 full strength, but they still were successful a bit against 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.720 Vanderesh as well. I don't care who the linebacker is. 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.760 If you're a d lineman, don't keep you free as 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.360 a linebacker, then you are going to be nullified. And 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.400 if they don't make the play, then you're gonna be 0:13:55.400 --> 0:14:01.360 looking at being slashed by the the running back. As 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.560 we saw last year at the beginning, at the end 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.760 of the year and as we have seen at the 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.560 beginning of this year. Your D lineman must make the play. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.440 The communication between the D lineman and linebacker must be there. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.960 It's almost like the flex the flex spags. The flex 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:22.760 defense was all about D lineman controlling the gaps so 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:27.440 that they can't be penetrated and the linebacker can wrong 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.920 from sideline to sideline. The same concept, but it's not working, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.360 you know. But there was a domino effect by the 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:39.360 fact that they don't have that third linebacker. There's a 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.560 domino effect on that defensive line now where Don Terry 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.440 Po and Tristan Hill were playing way too many snaps 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.520 in this game. Tristan Hill played sixty four snaps in 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.760 this game and Don Terry Po played fifty nine. Those 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.680 guys need to be playing half that number of snaps 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.920 in a four three defense. And then you got Tyrone 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.880 Crawford who can spell them, and there he had thirty 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:04.360 three snaps in the game. And if you have that 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.560 third linebacker, whether it's Vander Esch, whether it's Sean Lee, 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.840 and however you're going to play those three linebackers, then 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:16.000 Alden Smith can play a four three defensive end and 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.600 DeMarcus Lawrence, they can rotate. You've got guys that are 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.880 playing DeMarcus Lawrence, I mean, and essentially they're playing a 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.480 five man They were playing a five man front once 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.960 they fell behind, and so DeMarcus Lawrence is playing a 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.520 three to four outside linebacker, which is he's not doesn't 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.840 have experience doing that in his career. And so it 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:40.160 was a domino effect when you don't have that third 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:44.840 starting linebacker and to play the run and to be 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.440 able to play the pass as well. And what and 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.040 what Cleveland was able to do offensively with their second 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.560 tight end, Harrison Bryant. He's really a hybrid between a 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.000 tight end and a wide receiver, and so they could 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.240 go either way and that's their play action stuff was 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.200 working great. He did a good job as far as 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.920 being even if he was used as a third wide receiver, 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.680 then he could run around as a second tight end. 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.800 He was effective and pass block or run blocking. And 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.400 so that's where the Cowboys got I think got caught 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.520 on defense because they did not they do not have 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.640 a replacement on their roster apparently for losing two tight 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.880 ends and their four three scheme, and think about this, 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.400 their tight ends combined for nine catches for seventy one 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:36.400 yards and a touchdown. They had no answer for their 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.920 tight ends. So I think I think we fixed it. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.240 You know, now they've just got to listen to it. 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.480 I mean, look, you know, whether he's here's my point also, 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.360 And I thought this was one of the best things 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:57.240 Jimmy Johnson did as a head coach, and especially with 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:02.760 a defensive mind. He did He did not fool himself 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:08.040 on his personnel. He self scouted his personnel, and he 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.399 understood the strong points and the weak points, and he 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:16.760 played his hand to those aspects. He didn't he didn't 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.800 he didn't over convince himself that, yeah, this guy's better 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.240 than you know we think. No, it's like, if this 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.960 guy can't do that, then we're not doing this. And 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.160 I think you have to self scout. And you know how, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.520 you know how he learned that? You know what? You 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.080 know how he learned that? What's that? He learned that 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.000 from nineteen eighty nine by going one in fifteen. He 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:42.560 learned a lot in nineteen eighty nine, right, so did I. 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.160 We were we both learned together that there's a lot 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.960 of limitations in what your teammates can or cannot do. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.200 And the go the game plan as well. It doesn't 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.679 matter how you draw it up. You can't get blood 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.240 from a rock, and uh that's what we tried to 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.560 do a whole lot in nineteen eighty nine. Did not work. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:03.680 So yeah, Everson learned in nineteen eighty nine that I 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:05.960 gotta get out of here. I gotta frank nize with 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.280 this Arizona car byre and get out what I'm not. Kids, 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.200 just get on that Whisper jet. Give me their ant 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:15.000 out of everybody. All right, we continue with more Mick 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:19.440 Johnson just a moment. Hey, they're cowboys fans. With Type 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.240 Cleaners at Home pickup and Delivery, cleaning your clothes has 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.639 never been more convenient. Simply sign up at your local store, 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.960 set out your dirty clothes, and one of our Ti 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.960 cleaner professionals will come directly to your home for a 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:36.040 totally contactless experience. Your clean garments will be returned promptly 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.720 the next scheduled delivery day, So skip the errand and 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.480 enjoy life not laundry. Visit ty Cleaners dot com or 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.840 your local store to sign up for Type Cleaners at 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:51.240 Home pickup and Delivery today. Make the most of summer 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.480 with Board America's best selling brands during the Ford Summer 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.200 sales at enting with great offers on a huge selection 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.320 of Ford SUVs and the largest selection of trucking tory 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.200 to choose from the huge offers across the Ford lineup. 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.720 So grabs the family and head out. Ford's helping you 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.200 meet the most out of summer. It's easier now during 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.280 the Ford Summer Sales events based on twenty nineteen calendar 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.120 year total sales based on Autodata compact and full sized 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.040 stock inventory as a June twenty twenty. Want to use 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.200 what the pros use? How about the official men's skincare 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.399 brand of the Dallas Cowboys, Jack Black. Right now you 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.119 can get the Jack Black Starter, a curated collection of 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.640 Cowboys locker room favorites, for just ten bucks with free shipping. 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.879 The starter includes four Jack Black skincare favorites plus a 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.800 full sized and tense therapy whip bomb. Go to get 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.639 Jack Black dot com slash Cowboys and use the code 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:42.240 word team JB. That's get Jack Black dot com slash 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:46.840 Cowboys The Jack Black Starter ten bucks free shipping. I'm 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.320 Jay Novacheck, former tight end for the Dallas Cowboys back 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.280 in the day, I was the guy who always got 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.920 the tough yards, and that's why I run with John 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.600 Deer today. In fact, I have a John Deer three 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.640 zero twenty five E tractor that can handle any yard 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.160 work I need to do, even the tough yards way 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.160 out back. So if you have one acre or a thousand, 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.800 John Dear has the equipment that's just right for you. 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.720 Visit a John Dear dealer today and run with us. 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:16.080 We are the official tractor provider of your Dallas Cowboys 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:22.159 back back to mix shots. Let me ask you this, 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.880 does your Cowboys fandom go beyond the game. As part 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.919 of the NFL Fan of the Year contest, we're watching 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.680 a search for one extraordinary Cowboys fan who is a 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.520 positive influence and inspires others through their love of the game. 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.600 Visit NFL dot com slash Fan of the Year now 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:46.320 to learn more and nominate today. You know, after Sunday's game, 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:50.720 if you can find an extraordinary Cowboys fan who is 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:55.600 a positive influence and inspires others, now, that would be 0:20:55.680 --> 0:21:00.760 an extraordinary Cowboys fan. Don't you think Billy be extraordinary? 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.840 They're find one right now, that's right exactly. You should 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:08.280 do this for a living Bill announcer Bills. I'm just saying, 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.360 I'm just saying, coming off that game, I'm thinking, if 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.320 you can find a Cowboys fan who is a positive 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:19.480 influence and inspires others, now, that would be an extraordinary 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:25.520 Cowboys fan. Hey, how about after watching the majority of 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:30.119 that game again, I give you a positive mick shot. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:36.919 I'll guarantee you. Olivier Vernon was glad when that game 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:41.440 was over because Tyrn Smith put a clinic on that 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:45.240 dude when he was trying to rush the quarterback. And 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:49.479 I remember, you know when everybody used to say, you know, 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.760 don't don't let Tyrn get his hands on you, because 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:57.680 once he locks up, it's over right, you ain't going anywhere. 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.800 And I watched pass after passwords. I think I saw 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.760 one so far where he kind of got around him. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:09.080 But boy, he put a clinic on blocking the defensive end. 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.000 That's good to hear that. That's about this normal a 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:19.320 situation that I've heard in quite some time coming from 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.840 an offensive line that was considered the best in the NFL. 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:30.359 Hand down, especially starting in twenty sixteen before the injuries 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:34.600 be set us all and with a retirement, of course 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:39.760 from the disease. We are now pretty much just an 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:45.040 average offensive line with one or two very good superstars 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.560 on that team. But that that one of the two, 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:49.639 you don't know when he's gonna play. You don't know 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.359 when he's gonna be full strength. So, you know, people 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.879 talk about the talent we have on this team. We 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.560 still have the talent, but we've got to work a 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:01.399 lot harder to display that talent considering the fact that 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:03.680 our old line has been decimated over the last few years. 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.840 You know, well, and it's great seeing Tyron Smith out there, 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.119 and Mickey, want to let me make one more point 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:13.200 on Olivier Vernon. He did make one play on the 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.639 second series of the game, right before the CD Lamb touchdown, 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.359 where he stopped Zeke for a one yard loss, but 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.600 Tyron Smith wasn't blocking him. He Dalton Schultz was left 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:25.120 alone on him on that play. And that's the one 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:28.200 time that I marked down Olivier Vernon's name, and then 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.720 going back and looking at the coaches film, Schultz got 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:34.560 stuck on him on that particular play and there was 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.399 a one yard loss. But okay, so go ahead make 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.840 your point there, Mickey. And then and then I thought 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:45.120 Tyler Badish played awfully well for a guy that has 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:47.960 now played where did I write down here? I think 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:52.280 he's played like a hundred and thirty three snaps over 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.960 the last two games at center. And I think he's 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:59.320 got mobility to him. Not only does he know where 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.560 to go blow, but he can get out on the 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.200 screen passes too. And I thought he did a good 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.800 job in space on a couple of those, uh, picking 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:17.040 off somebody. So I think, you know what, Joe Looney 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.639 might just get wally pipped on this one because I 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:22.960 think they gotta like what they saw and be out. 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:28.800