Speaker 1: And now from the Chris Westling Podcast Studio. I said
Speaker 1: it and I'll say it again from the Chris Westling
Speaker 1: Podcast Studio. It's the Around the End about podcast MYTM.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hands and I am in a room,
Speaker 1: very fancy boy room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. We did it. We've met it. What's up, guys.
Speaker 1: We made it back to like the ninety nineties. I'm
Speaker 1: fired up listening to that. Seem like Dan pump his fist.
Speaker 1: He looked like one of the guys in the crowd
Speaker 1: at a Bulls game, like after a big Scottie Pippen dunk.
Speaker 1: And they just panned to some like white guy right
Speaker 1: in the front. So yeah, way to go. It's like,
Speaker 1: this makes me forget all the pets of at home.
Speaker 1: What a room that guy. This. I wish we could
Speaker 1: share this visually. I mean, this is a stunning studio
Speaker 1: with an there's in here well you know at some point,
Speaker 1: but and a cameraman. Right now, we've got it. We've
Speaker 1: got able to share it. NFL mandated photographer in here
Speaker 1: taking photos of us. It's the first ever podcast in
Speaker 1: the Chris westleyan podcast. This is it and um, you know,
Speaker 1: we've done a couple shows. We did the podcast, we
Speaker 1: did the of course last week we did the third
Speaker 1: is than a football recap and we will never speak
Speaker 1: of that again from westling manor one of our best shows. Um.
Speaker 1: But this is our first proper podcast together since last March.
Speaker 1: Straight up. Still remember it to this day. We um
Speaker 1: did a show together. It was a Friday afternoon. Colleen
Speaker 1: was with us, I believe West was with us. We
Speaker 1: after the show ended, went over to Roccos in Culver City,
Speaker 1: which is in a different part of the city from
Speaker 1: where we are now, and we had drinks and we
Speaker 1: had food and we had good times. We had some laughs,
Speaker 1: and then Tom Hanks got sick and it all changed, um,
Speaker 1: and that was it. We were never together again in
Speaker 1: the studio. And I will say this first of all,
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Thank you to everybody behind the glass.
Speaker 1: Erica is back there, of course, but we have an
Speaker 1: entire team of people that have worked tirelessly to get
Speaker 1: this place up and running because it is our gargantuan effort.
Speaker 1: We are in the big building right next to Sophi
Speaker 1: Stadium that is now the headquarters of NFL Media the
Speaker 1: network side, the newsroom. Um, and it's been a ton
Speaker 1: of work to get us in these chairs and talking
Speaker 1: into these microphones. So we have the easy job doing
Speaker 1: the podcast. Uh so thank you everyone else. My other
Speaker 1: my other thought, Greg is that's a big time like
Speaker 1: on air move like, hey, hey, what we do up here? Uh,
Speaker 1: that's easy. The real hero Like it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Tony Romo and Jim Nance making twenty million, the real heroes,
Speaker 1: the guys with the tough job are making like seventy
Speaker 1: because it's a union. This job is tough enough for
Speaker 1: my Like, you know, I don't I don't need it
Speaker 1: to become more difficult. Thank you. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: people back there too. It's a it's a little uh intimidating.
Speaker 1: But my other point is, yes, this Hey, we're just
Speaker 1: the kids on the playground over here. My other point
Speaker 1: is that yes, from now and until the end of
Speaker 1: the show. Uh, the fact that I'll introduce you boys,
Speaker 1: introduce my self, but also be introducing Chris Westling's name
Speaker 1: into the conversation every time we start a show here.
Speaker 1: That is an awesome That is an awesome thing. And
Speaker 1: also shout out to everyone, Um, Matt Schneider and Jason
Speaker 1: Kleinman Um and everyone behind the scenes for getting the
Speaker 1: studio named with an awesome Chris Westling signage right out front,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure you've seen on social media. But we're
Speaker 1: set up well here, Greg, and it is great to
Speaker 1: have west with us, even if it isn't physically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels right that Keisha came down. She's working right
Speaker 1: down the hall. This is It is gonna take some
Speaker 1: getting used to being back in the office. We saw
Speaker 1: a lot of familiar faces in the hour before the show,
Speaker 1: but Lakisha came over from her editing bay. We took
Speaker 1: some pictures that had some hugs it all. It feels right.
Speaker 1: I visited my cubicle, right, you know, I had. I
Speaker 1: had varying feelings about UM even being attached to a
Speaker 1: cubicle on any level, but I would say about this
Speaker 1: whole building, and I was telling one of our Christie,
Speaker 1: one of our producers, tipes out there that um, this
Speaker 1: is sort of like a gigantic evil spaceship that has
Speaker 1: been inhabited by nice people. It's been turned into sort
Speaker 1: of a nice spaceship. It's the building itself looks like
Speaker 1: it's from about eight years from now. But if it's
Speaker 1: but if it's by its nature and evil spaceship, can
Speaker 1: you truly trust the people? Well, we took I've watched
Speaker 1: enough Twilight Zone episode. We took over the technology and
Speaker 1: we rid it of the it's most most of the
Speaker 1: people here seems friendly. I did think about you this morning, Mark,
Speaker 1: because I know this is not an easy thing for
Speaker 1: you to be back here, and it made me think
Speaker 1: of I was just thinking of you going through the
Speaker 1: motions this morning, of you know, you woke up and
Speaker 1: it's like, I gotta get in the shower, Uh, I
Speaker 1: gotta make my smoothie. And then I was thinking, um,
Speaker 1: I was setting this in my mind to you know,
Speaker 1: an uncut gems the Sandler movie, the score to that
Speaker 1: movie where it's just like this kind of like weird,
Speaker 1: almost like a menacing tone underneath everything. It's like Mark's
Speaker 1: making smoothie, Simone's talking to them, but it's just like
Speaker 1: and Mark said, it's like and then he gets dressed
Speaker 1: and he's like, which suit jacket? I guess the blue one.
Speaker 1: It's just like three of the same thing. Then you
Speaker 1: get in the car and you punch into your ways
Speaker 1: it's not wrong, and you're just like stone faced. Is
Speaker 1: this happening? Is this is this happen? Pulled into the lot,
Speaker 1: go through the gate, up the parking garage. This is happening.
Speaker 1: This is really happening. This check out it does I
Speaker 1: will I'll quickly out a couple of should I throw
Speaker 1: in a couple more tweets about how I don't want
Speaker 1: to go back to work. No, no, I'll try set
Speaker 1: six to adjust my attitude on the whole thing. Um, I,
Speaker 1: you know, for the first time in a billion years,
Speaker 1: drove to work obviously and got on you know, I
Speaker 1: know the four oh five essentially how it works. It
Speaker 1: goes north, it goes south. I got on the wrong,
Speaker 1: um part of the quarrel five, added like eighteen minutes
Speaker 1: to the trip, nearly crashed into like what I guess
Speaker 1: it's called like a tractor trailer of some sorts. Then
Speaker 1: when I pulled it into this building, I went into
Speaker 1: the completely wrong place, and um, a very stern woman
Speaker 1: told me I needed to go somewh else. Then I
Speaker 1: parked and Erica had to come meet me in the garage.
Speaker 1: I was like a small child or a boy. She
Speaker 1: took me through all the steps to get into the building.
Speaker 1: Think you think Mark's gonna be okay here? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the morning started off around eight am with texts
Speaker 1: with crying emojis, and Mark put his hand down because
Speaker 1: he knows week two. Yeah, And I met him in
Speaker 1: the garage and we walked through and I walked him
Speaker 1: directly to his desk, which is the first desk you
Speaker 1: see from the glass. Well, they punked me on that
Speaker 1: that was a it's a fish. What I did with
Speaker 1: Harrison on his first day of preschool to differently didn't
Speaker 1: happen with Dan and I, like we figured out how to.
Speaker 1: I took him and I tried to get him to
Speaker 1: eat breakfast. He was too nervous, he wouldn't eat breakfast.
Speaker 1: Then I dropped him off, I got him his badge,
Speaker 1: got his badge, dropped him off at his desk. Um.
Speaker 1: And then also, you know, you guys are sitting in
Speaker 1: different orders this time, which is very different. And so
Speaker 1: you know, Greg and Dan were outside and Mark had
Speaker 1: Mark came to me in in this you know, in
Speaker 1: the producers side of the of the studio and goes, well,
Speaker 1: we're not sitting in the same line, And I guess
Speaker 1: that is really stressful. So I feel like you guys
Speaker 1: should addressed. We take we have I I quickly backed
Speaker 1: down after Mark made it clear he wanted to be
Speaker 1: on the edge, as like, oh, well, I always I
Speaker 1: have sat on the edge for we can we can
Speaker 1: change it, yeah, a little more. And I like that
Speaker 1: field though that that was its like the Social Network
Speaker 1: soundtrack if you know that one, the Phantom Thread one,
Speaker 1: just a dark sense of anxiety and four body, which
Speaker 1: is what it's like to live as Mark Sessler in
Speaker 1: the year and we have this awesome studio. We'll take
Speaker 1: it easy on you, Mark, um a lot more space.
Speaker 1: And our old studio UM in Culver City, they actually
Speaker 1: did like it was a closet. It was a broom closet,
Speaker 1: let's face it. And it was tucked way way up
Speaker 1: and out of the way. It was right next to
Speaker 1: like where the janitor keeps his mops and everything, and
Speaker 1: we we lived in our own world. Now it's a
Speaker 1: fish bowl. So now you have like hide like video
Speaker 1: and we have the whole crew and on the glass
Speaker 1: in front of us. I don't feel that way, but
Speaker 1: speaking in Lakisha, and we're gonna get into the week
Speaker 1: to preview in a second way if you've never listened
Speaker 1: to the podcast before. Yeah, we we cover football. We're
Speaker 1: very full of ourselves, talked about ourselves to start each show.
Speaker 1: But it is a big change in the other they'll
Speaker 1: forgive us today. But I you know, I told Lakisha
Speaker 1: I was texting with I have a great idea, and
Speaker 1: she was like what she sent him all years? And
Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, we talked about the Chris
Speaker 1: Westling dossier um being found before it's thrown out in
Speaker 1: the old office and uh, and we found it and
Speaker 1: it was an amazing story and we don't need to
Speaker 1: go down that road again. But I said, what if
Speaker 1: in this new studio, I had this idea, you know how,
Speaker 1: like the Declaration of Independence? Um, I guess it's in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia in case if it's sitting on like a black
Speaker 1: platform and then like a bulletproof glass around it with
Speaker 1: some tasteful lighting down on it. Like what if it
Speaker 1: was in the corner of the studio and like no
Speaker 1: no labeling, no other explanation. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Lukisha hated that idea. And they're not all winners, but
Speaker 1: I want to tell you that I thought that would
Speaker 1: be cool. Like if it looked like something that Nick
Speaker 1: Cage would try to steal in a movie. That's a
Speaker 1: little sign on it. That's what was wrong with Well,
Speaker 1: she had a she had good reason. She wanted to
Speaker 1: hold on to it. She wanted link to see it
Speaker 1: one day, and she didn't trust that if it was
Speaker 1: left unattended all the time. But I just wanted you guys,
Speaker 1: most of these articles are absolutely destroying one of our
Speaker 1: thirty two bosses. Technically, Um, that's worth but it's gonna.
Speaker 1: It's gonna. You returned to Lukisha after the show. But
Speaker 1: I liked the I mean, we're looking at it right now.
Speaker 1: Just let you know, Dan, you pulled it out of
Speaker 1: a Deffel bag. It's it's beautiful to witness. I want
Speaker 1: to just take one rant, be careful to like, if
Speaker 1: we national treasured this thing, that would have been a
Speaker 1: cool thing. I I think number one, it's it's okay
Speaker 1: that you had a good idea. Um, she you know,
Speaker 1: she has the final say on that, So that's how
Speaker 1: that works. I told her, I'm an ideas man. Not
Speaker 1: all of them sums are swings and missus all right now,
Speaker 1: if you're curious. Mike Brown wasn't totally sure if all
Speaker 1: the TV money that they were generating was a good idea.
Speaker 1: Think alright, So this is Week two in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Coming up later tonight, Mark, I got more band news
Speaker 1: for you. You and I will be recapping against the
Speaker 1: Washington Football Team Premier matchup, NFC East Classic match up there. Um,
Speaker 1: so you have a mini pod coming up this pot
Speaker 1: of course, will be our draft of the week, two
Speaker 1: UH teams games and also of course um a full
Speaker 1: breakdown of all the games. So as we do every
Speaker 1: preview show, we do a draft style. Ricky, did you
Speaker 1: have any pop culture questions to get us going today?
Speaker 1: I did not. I thought we were going to rotate
Speaker 1: because who got the last You got the first pick
Speaker 1: last week, so I will be the last pick. Second question.
Speaker 1: That means Greg's second, The New Old blue Eyes is third.
Speaker 1: Fourth back to Greg, Mark snakes to Mark great podcast, Greg,
Speaker 1: New Old Blue Eyes, tug Boat Okay one too, Okay,
Speaker 1: three games each? You can head it all that out
Speaker 1: Here we go. It's taken behind the process, big week
Speaker 1: of action. Mark with the first overall pick in the
Speaker 1: week to draft, what game are you giving us? I?
Speaker 1: Am going to go I think you think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go Brown's Houston and lock up a game that most
Speaker 1: people would not even pick um out of the gate. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm gonna go New Orleans at Carolina. Greg.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if that UM isn't affront to you because
Speaker 1: New Orleans is sort of your pet team. UM. But
Speaker 1: after what happened last week with both of these clubs
Speaker 1: inside this division, I find this to be a very
Speaker 1: spicy showdown. You know that I'm a Matt rule it um.
Speaker 1: I'm big on Sean Payton, and I want to see
Speaker 1: if the if the Saints number one, because I think
Speaker 1: that one of the biggest questions coming out of last
Speaker 1: week's action was the Green Bay New Orleans contest. Are
Speaker 1: either one of those teams actually those teams or was
Speaker 1: that something that just happened in a bubble and we're
Speaker 1: going to find out who they really are The Saints
Speaker 1: last week, We're up twenty four to three before Jamis
Speaker 1: Winson had even thrown for a hundred yards. They ran
Speaker 1: the ball thirty nine times. They you know they had
Speaker 1: they had to fifteen yard drives in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: They were four for four in the red zone. They
Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over. If I told you all
Speaker 1: that and switched the name from Winston to Rogers, you
Speaker 1: would have no problem thinking that was Aaron Rodgers versus
Speaker 1: the Saints, a team that we're being counted out. They're
Speaker 1: banged up, they're injured, They've got some injuries on defense.
Speaker 1: Eric McCoy is out of the mix. But I just
Speaker 1: trust Sean Payton to essentially coach this team up in
Speaker 1: a way that no other coach. Ken. You gotta lock
Speaker 1: it up again, Matt rule light team. I'm not going
Speaker 1: down that road. But I also look at Carolina and think,
Speaker 1: what who are they? Because what they did to the
Speaker 1: Jets with their and the Jets their offensive line. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about that later, but Carolina ten QB hits, eight
Speaker 1: pass deflections, a forced fumble on Zack Wilson, a pick
Speaker 1: Shaq Thompson was all over the place. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of young talent on Carolina's defense. I love the way
Speaker 1: their offense is run by Brady and I just want
Speaker 1: to see this showdown. This, to me, is one of
Speaker 1: the more interesting clashes that are out there in Week two.
Speaker 1: I'm with you this Carolina defense. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be legit if you if you looked at their team,
Speaker 1: you would think that a defensive code you know, was
Speaker 1: their coach, because they've drafted so much on defense. They're
Speaker 1: so young, And you're right, Shack Thompson wearing that number seven.
Speaker 1: He switched to the number seven like an hour before
Speaker 1: the game, just to mess with the opponent. I don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like that. Well, you can't
Speaker 1: keep changing. It only works week, I guess, but he did.
Speaker 1: He looked five years younger. But it's all these young
Speaker 1: guys up front. I like Gross Matos, I like Derek Brown.
Speaker 1: We we've talked about Derek uh Brian Burns, and I'm
Speaker 1: with you. It's gonna be a much tougher test. I
Speaker 1: think for New Orleans that was just like a perfect game.
Speaker 1: That was everything coming together on a day where I
Speaker 1: think they felt like it was a playoff game. But
Speaker 1: you're right, Winston didn't even have over a hundred yards
Speaker 1: until he hit that lot last throw against Deante Harris.
Speaker 1: So I also like it because it's the best running
Speaker 1: back matchup possible. It's the two best running backs in
Speaker 1: the league, and Alvin Kamara last week. He's just on
Speaker 1: another planet. I know Christian McCaffrey is technically probably as
Speaker 1: good that it's you know, you could pick one or
Speaker 1: the other. But there is something about the smoothness in
Speaker 1: the way that Camara runs and how good he is
Speaker 1: on the goal line that to me, he is on
Speaker 1: another planet. He is different than any running back I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. Well, I disagree because to say he's on
Speaker 1: another planet, are you saying from a talent skill like
Speaker 1: playing style because he is not enough. There is something
Speaker 1: indefinable about the way he moves and plays football that
Speaker 1: is unlike. I am not arguing that. I am not
Speaker 1: arguing that. But what I will push back on is
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. And we hadn't really seen him much. We
Speaker 1: saw him three games last year and by the way,
Speaker 1: in an injury Rex season last year, he played three
Speaker 1: times and was awesome in those three games, which should
Speaker 1: have been a heads up, Hey, this guy gets healthy,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get right back at it. He's like the King.
Speaker 1: He might not be as smooth and as impressive a
Speaker 1: specimen in terms of his ability to kind of I
Speaker 1: love how Camara he just has that ability to you know,
Speaker 1: plant his foot and then dart to the end zone
Speaker 1: from four yards out. He does things different and he's
Speaker 1: like a beautiful running back. I think the thing with
Speaker 1: CMC is like when he gets the ball, he will
Speaker 1: always turn it into a positive play. And I know
Speaker 1: if you give him even a little bit of space,
Speaker 1: it's always like most running backs will get seven, he'll
Speaker 1: get twelve. Like he's that guy. And even in a
Speaker 1: game where he was like not a breakout superstar performance
Speaker 1: against the Jets, he still had almost two under total yards.
Speaker 1: So it's like a pedestrian outing for him. I think
Speaker 1: he is going to put up numbers that dwarf any
Speaker 1: other running back in the league this year. Um if
Speaker 1: he stays healthy. And I guess that's there's a challenge
Speaker 1: from that rule not to over work uh McCaffrey, but
Speaker 1: it's tough because he's so much better than everyone else
Speaker 1: on the team. The one other thought I would say
Speaker 1: with this game is it's very interesting because it was
Speaker 1: a snowball game for the Saints. It was a Murphy's
Speaker 1: Law bury the ball game for the Packers, so you
Speaker 1: almost lose, like, how what do you take out of
Speaker 1: this game? Uh? And I thought with the Panthers. I
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to take out of their defensive
Speaker 1: performance because the Jets seems so unprepared and over match
Speaker 1: an offensive line. So I want to see both these
Speaker 1: teams a week removed from those settings. That the Panthers
Speaker 1: offense scored three points in the second half last week,
Speaker 1: But I think the Panther's offense especially you know, one
Speaker 1: reason that CMC is gonna get I think he used
Speaker 1: a ton is because you're not gonna take Sam Donald
Speaker 1: and throw the ball forty five times with him until
Speaker 1: they kind of know what The people are so like
Speaker 1: looking to praise Sam Donald and be like thee I
Speaker 1: told you he's fine. That it's like they're overreacting to
Speaker 1: last week's game, which he was Okay, he was fine.
Speaker 1: He got rid of the ball quickly and actually used
Speaker 1: the fact that he has a cannon for an arm,
Speaker 1: which is nice. You know, Adam Gates didn't really do that.
Speaker 1: But when he has to get to a second read
Speaker 1: or make like any sort of creative play, we'll see.
Speaker 1: They're so well coached. I am with you on that
Speaker 1: mark that they are a very well coached team. They're
Speaker 1: two coaches also who were nice to you at the
Speaker 1: UH at the owner's meeting, which is basically the maid.
Speaker 1: Matt Rule came up to me out of thin air
Speaker 1: and said, Hi, I'm coach Rule. Good to meet you.
Speaker 1: I said, hi, Mark Cessler, and all he needed to know.
Speaker 1: You know, we had match and I been on the
Speaker 1: show this week that if you give me any sort
Speaker 1: of compliment, I'm with you until the end. You cannot
Speaker 1: melt it away. I have no integrity on the reporting side.
Speaker 1: Bradley Roby will play for the Saints here, but they
Speaker 1: are short in the secondary this week. Paulson Adibo their
Speaker 1: their rookie. There's no will be playing, but there's no Lattimore,
Speaker 1: there's no Davenport upfront. They have really been hit with
Speaker 1: injuries pretty hard. All right. The number two pick goes
Speaker 1: to Greg. I mean, I'm so glad you didn't take this.
Speaker 1: The only real game on the slate that I wanted
Speaker 1: more than any other was Tony Romo, Jim Nance, Justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: dak Prescott Eastern. Are you kidding me? The rest of
Speaker 1: those afternoon games not even in the same ballpark, two
Speaker 1: of my favorite quarterbacks to watch, and Justin Herbert, I
Speaker 1: I apologize to Justin Herbert because he was my guy
Speaker 1: last year. He's one of the best rookie quarterbacks of
Speaker 1: all time. I like just love watching and I spent
Speaker 1: the whole off stud like, oh, is Joe Lombardi gonna
Speaker 1: ruin him? Julie. It's like no, no, like a quarterback
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers or Justin Herbert or Patrick Mahomes. And
Speaker 1: I think this is the level that this kid can
Speaker 1: get to. He is gonna overcome whatever the system is.
Speaker 1: I'm not slamming Joe Lombardi, but he's gonna make it
Speaker 1: look good. And and it was a totally different offense
Speaker 1: last week by the Chargers. He wasn't touched. He got
Speaker 1: rid of the ball quickly. His arm strength matters because
Speaker 1: you just he he throws it into zones before the
Speaker 1: cornerbacks can get there. I loved it because he didn't
Speaker 1: have to do some any crazy place, but you know
Speaker 1: he can because we've seen it. So it's almost like
Speaker 1: more dangerous. It's like a crazy guy act insane, Like
Speaker 1: you know, he can go crazy if he needs to,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't even need to right now. You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny because you you gave that man plenty of
Speaker 1: love last year, and West also loved him. So you
Speaker 1: guys like kind of took up all the oxygen in
Speaker 1: the room for Justin Herbert love, which was fine, Um,
Speaker 1: but I can as a result, I kind of stepped back.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, they're gonna be on this Justin Herbert beat.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna focus on other places this season. When I
Speaker 1: went into that game, Um, First of all, even though
Speaker 1: he had the fumble throw thing that went through the
Speaker 1: end zone and then he threw a pick, so he
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect. But Justin Herbert is a savage from the pocket.
Speaker 1: That is, and you'll hear me say that many times
Speaker 1: this season. Justin Herbert is a savage in the pocket.
Speaker 1: What he did, that's gonna be a catchphrase. Er, that's
Speaker 1: a catchphrase. Put that on a T shirt or on
Speaker 1: a poster, because he is a savage in the pocket.
Speaker 1: First down completions in the fourth quarter on third down
Speaker 1: all four seventeen, Laser nineteen, Laser twenty, Laser nine Laser
Speaker 1: game over. Washington Football team not a push over defense
Speaker 1: by any stretch. They could not stop the savage. And
Speaker 1: on top of it, I mean they had the most
Speaker 1: drops in the league last week. It took a while
Speaker 1: for his whiteouts too kind of warm up, I think
Speaker 1: with him. And so let's say that doesn't so that
Speaker 1: was an aberration. You remove that they're even more dangerous,
Speaker 1: and you know this whole thing that you know, just
Speaker 1: a couple of people like Justin Herbert, I mean he
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to claim him oxygen. There was a
Speaker 1: lack of oxygen within how the show works. Within the
Speaker 1: first two or three weeks, they were just I we
Speaker 1: were we were saying this, you don't need to wait
Speaker 1: to see the greatness. I'm just saying you saw it
Speaker 1: right away. And I think the Tyrod Taylor is a
Speaker 1: by all accounts, a wonderful person. But what would our
Speaker 1: lives be had that medical technician not um in, you know,
Speaker 1: in process the faulty medical shot. I think I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it made the same except become he takes
Speaker 1: over in week four instead of weeks just that it's
Speaker 1: incredible that after what we thought of Justin Herbert, you know,
Speaker 1: coming out of Hard Knocks, which was which was in
Speaker 1: a ridiculous way to judge someone, but he seemed a
Speaker 1: little punchless and milk toast on Hard knocks and a
Speaker 1: little lost and then instead. The one thing about him
Speaker 1: is he is physically tough. When he gets knocked and
Speaker 1: hit hard, I mean, he just gets right back up
Speaker 1: and like he also seems like a very wholesome individual.
Speaker 1: Um Erica sent us a video of him carrying the
Speaker 1: football from the field into the locker room and ultimately
Speaker 1: gives it to Brandon Staley, who is the other difference
Speaker 1: on this team. This isn't the team because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: steal the oxygen on Brandon's at a studio desk and
Speaker 1: we're gonna start pointing at each other like we're Stephen
Speaker 1: staring at screens for you know you are. You're the
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley guy. You've had that beat covered last year.
Speaker 1: It early last year. Is that rules now? It's well,
Speaker 1: I'm on that beat too, well Staley versus multiple beats.
Speaker 1: You might be missing a beat if you're on too
Speaker 1: many beats. I can do both. It's too a lot
Speaker 1: of teams that we got to talk about them all
Speaker 1: like three times a week, the Cowboys, by the way,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys friends. Like wait a second, when you're
Speaker 1: preview in the game with Americas, you only talk about
Speaker 1: America's team. That's how it looks. No, we're talking about
Speaker 1: the other team more this week. But the Cowboys they
Speaker 1: are who I thought they were. We talked about it
Speaker 1: on the power ranks with that Money Smith. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be awesome on offense. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: struggle to get stops on defense until they prove otherwise.
Speaker 1: That's how I see it. I don't put a lot
Speaker 1: into the turnovers last week, and I think they're going
Speaker 1: to struggle in this game to stop just well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're burying the lead on their defense. To Marcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: broke his foot at practice this week. Do you want
Speaker 1: to know how many times did the Dallas defense touched
Speaker 1: Tom Brady last week or their defensive line? It was
Speaker 1: zero one. They got one hit on Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: it was a safety, and that in DeMarcus Lawrence had
Speaker 1: a great game. He had a vintage game. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if they get vintage de Marcus Lawrence. I know he
Speaker 1: didn't get the QB hits, but a ton of pressure,
Speaker 1: is very active in the run game. Is easily their
Speaker 1: best player on defense. He's now out for two months.
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, who's their other starting pass rusher is on
Speaker 1: the COVID list and is unlikely to play in this game.
Speaker 1: No Dallas defensive lineman made a play. Meanwhile, you've got
Speaker 1: all this money in draft capital in Vander esh and
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, who combined for thirty one snaps last week.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by that situation. The only reason why I
Speaker 1: give the the Cowboys any chance in this game is
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott with those two receivers, even without Gallup, who
Speaker 1: has also hurt. That one kind of slipped under the radar.
Speaker 1: He's on I R they had a really tough injury week.
Speaker 1: Is one of the only guys who I think could
Speaker 1: possibly Outsmart Brandon's daily because I think before the snap,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is the guy who is kind of taking
Speaker 1: over for Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady is like the
Speaker 1: next guy who is just like winning from the neck up.
Speaker 1: But otherwise you don't give him much of a chance
Speaker 1: at all. And that's why I'm locking up the charge.
Speaker 1: Look at you, all right, I thought that was coming.
Speaker 1: I was wondering where I kind of forgot. And by
Speaker 1: the way, we need to clean it up as a group.
Speaker 1: That was That was a catastrophe in week one all
Speaker 1: of us. Not only do we lose our locks, our
Speaker 1: respected teams are blown out and then the Westling brothers
Speaker 1: they got involved. They lost too. So you know, Ricky,
Speaker 1: we had to take her off the game because she
Speaker 1: was you know, well we didn't even talk about that.
Speaker 1: Was like, no, she's out, and you know I felt
Speaker 1: bad for your dad. He was really upset. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: upset about your performance last year, that you weren't involved
Speaker 1: this year. No that I wasn't involved. You want to
Speaker 1: get guys are supposed to protect you. I wasn't aware
Speaker 1: of this drama. She was just not involved in the
Speaker 1: low I wanted to and Greg said no, It said Greg,
Speaker 1: why I don't remember that? I wasn't there for that.
Speaker 1: It was unslacked because she cheated and then she quit.
Speaker 1: Never cheated. Definitely cheating, Yeah what I mean what that's
Speaker 1: part that once you admit to it, that'd be fine.
Speaker 1: That's something you should be. You know, she's out, but
Speaker 1: then she quit. She just stopped doing it halfway to
Speaker 1: have locked in week one, like well I wanted to
Speaker 1: do the rams, but that wasn't I'll give it to
Speaker 1: your one or no, they were they were over there.
Speaker 1: They were over the limit too. I think a one
Speaker 1: a one game suspension, that's all that was. It was
Speaker 1: just a one game, So give me a loss then
Speaker 1: for week one. No, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: If you pick the rams, we'll give it to you.
Speaker 1: It's not I I do believe like a woman, you know,
Speaker 1: to quote the great great Omar, you know, played by
Speaker 1: the late great Michael Kay Williams, like a woman's got
Speaker 1: a coat. I gotta have a code if you cheat
Speaker 1: in the game, if you're in a competitive game and
Speaker 1: you cheat, and then you quit. On top of the cheating,
Speaker 1: the quitting was really the part that got me more
Speaker 1: stopped playing, Like there's suddenly more, this is something. This
Speaker 1: is tense. I mean, what are we what is happening here?
Speaker 1: You're allowed back in the typically like doesn't care about anything,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now he has principle. He doesn't
Speaker 1: want I ever said about the locks. My problem with
Speaker 1: it is that if you're gonna have a game, it
Speaker 1: has to have rules. Eventually, we kind of made these rules.
Speaker 1: Seems like you're bending over backwards to kick Eric out
Speaker 1: of the game, which is called if if you if
Speaker 1: you cheat and you quit. You gotta respect the game, Ricky,
Speaker 1: I got your back. Thank you, you're back. Nice to her.
Speaker 1: She listen, she had a tough season. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be around anymore. She had a tough season. Maybe
Speaker 1: she made some mistakes. But raise your hand if you've
Speaker 1: never made a mistake. I've definitely never cheated and then
Speaker 1: quit in a competitive game. Right, let's move on. Let's
Speaker 1: move on. You lock up. Let's keep talking about that
Speaker 1: for another ten to twelve minutes. All right, I'm up.
Speaker 1: M hmm, all right, Daddy Rich is gonna roll. This
Speaker 1: is the fourth name you've put on yourself during the show.
Speaker 1: It's very confusing. Got to speed it up here, all right,
Speaker 1: here we go. Let's pick up the pace here. I
Speaker 1: will love this. A f c S matchup Buffalo at Miami.
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's do it. Love it. Did not get
Speaker 1: two worked up about the Bills performance. Not real. It
Speaker 1: was a little bit surprised by the offensive line. No
Speaker 1: showing there against Pittsburgh. Um, But like the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: love the roster. Obviously, I think they bounced back. And
Speaker 1: for me, the Dolphins at home here, I'm not taking
Speaker 1: this game. Third. Overall, it's in Buffalo. But the fact
Speaker 1: that it's the Bills on the road in Miami against
Speaker 1: the Dolphins team, as you put it, well, Greg, last
Speaker 1: week they kind of Outpatriots. The Patriots, they just find
Speaker 1: a way to ugly things up and keep things closed.
Speaker 1: The Steelers did it to the Bills in Week one.
Speaker 1: Could the Dolphins do the same thing? Uh in Week two?
Speaker 1: And if they do, do we start to get a
Speaker 1: little nervous about the Bill's offense not being what it
Speaker 1: was last year. Mark I, I really think that we're
Speaker 1: looking at a Week one scenario where the Steelers are
Speaker 1: a bad matchup for Buffalo. We talked about that on
Speaker 1: the Sunday Night Show. You could last year's matchup it
Speaker 1: was ugly for Buffalo on some to some degree they won.
Speaker 1: But you know, last week Allen was one for eight
Speaker 1: on pass of twenty yards. Little things like the flea
Speaker 1: flicker they attempted that was swatted down by the Steelers
Speaker 1: last year. That play works and because something electric, it
Speaker 1: becomes a highlight. He took off on a scramble, he
Speaker 1: was stripped by t J. Watt, another mistake. They had
Speaker 1: two turnovers on downs. It just didn't go well for them.
Speaker 1: Five holding six holding penalties by the offensive. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: John Feliciano was abused last week. If that state, if
Speaker 1: that continues offensive line problems, I do think you have
Speaker 1: an issue because that's the kind of thing that can
Speaker 1: on spool an offense. But last year or over, in
Speaker 1: four games against the Brian Flores, Josh Allen has a
Speaker 1: twelve to one touchdown and this has been a beautiful
Speaker 1: matchup for It's been great. And Stephon Diggs last year
Speaker 1: lit him up for about two and twenty nine yards
Speaker 1: over two matchups. So I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: I liked for Buffalo the environment just because of the history.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a little bit of pressure for
Speaker 1: them to get off the schneide after last week. I mean,
Speaker 1: they just weren't fresh. I think it's the biggest week
Speaker 1: to games just in terms of like the shape of
Speaker 1: the season and what matters from a contending standpoint, because yes, Dan,
Speaker 1: if if they lose in any fashion, there two games
Speaker 1: back in the division. I know you've got fifteen to play,
Speaker 1: but you're O and two and your two games back
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins and you're already down one, then you're
Speaker 1: then you start to get a little concerned. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: don't have the defense to do the same game plan
Speaker 1: that Pittsburgh had, which was not rush anyone, drop everyone
Speaker 1: into coverage, force Alan to make decisions and make throws.
Speaker 1: That's not what Miami does. They don't have the players
Speaker 1: up front, and they blitz like crazy. Hasn't really worked
Speaker 1: against Josh Allen in the past, and I don't I'm
Speaker 1: tending to think it won't work this week. But the
Speaker 1: offensive line issues you brought up has one sort of
Speaker 1: X factor that I haven't heard many people talk about.
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins. They're highly paid left tackle, said he thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna die from COVID. He was in the
Speaker 1: hospital for a long time. If this had happened a
Speaker 1: year before, it would have been a huge story and
Speaker 1: highly paid NFL athlete who was worried that he might
Speaker 1: lose his life and was in really tough shape. He
Speaker 1: hadn't played any meaningful snaps since then. He was he
Speaker 1: was run over last week, and he's like a guy
Speaker 1: that went on to be great. It's very possible that
Speaker 1: it's just a bad week, you know, and that he
Speaker 1: just needed to get into game shape. But I'd be
Speaker 1: a little concerned about that. If I'm a Bill saying
Speaker 1: he lost thirty pounds or something like that while he
Speaker 1: was in the hospital, it was not a small and
Speaker 1: that's not typically their natural body weight. They artificially at
Speaker 1: weight where you're an offensive line. Um. Yeah, So we'll
Speaker 1: see if the Bills come out of this building, they're
Speaker 1: flying back to Western New York and they just put
Speaker 1: up seventeen points, I would wonder if some doubts starts
Speaker 1: creeping in. All Right, what's happening here? Well? Last week, however, however,
Speaker 1: I didn't like what I saw from to A in
Speaker 1: Week one. I know he made a couple of plays,
Speaker 1: but man, some of those, some of those mistakes he makes,
Speaker 1: it makes me think that he might be one of
Speaker 1: those guys that every once in a while you're just
Speaker 1: scratching your head once a quarter, once a half about
Speaker 1: something he did. That's what it looks like in week one.
Speaker 1: I need to see more from him. The Dolphins need
Speaker 1: to see more from him. Will Fuller's back, but he
Speaker 1: also misspractice undiscoosed injury with an injury, So something to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on, not even injury undisclosed. Something's cooking.
Speaker 1: There may be kidnapped and then they've they've found him.
Speaker 1: I mean anything, anything could be happy about it. We
Speaker 1: don't know. But anyway, I believe in the Bills. I
Speaker 1: believe they'll be okay, and I believe they get right
Speaker 1: in Miami. So I am locking up the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: We allowed to say spreads here. I don't even know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can say them, we can't. Are favored by three
Speaker 1: and a half. I think they're gonna that's a good number.
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna win. And uh, the last
Speaker 1: game we're talking about by the desert, don't be afraid
Speaker 1: to look over your shoulder. I don't know. Can I
Speaker 1: say that. You could say there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of points. We can say the say this, but this
Speaker 1: was a tough one. I took the Dolphins just to cover.
Speaker 1: But Dolphins fans calmed down, they got their backs up
Speaker 1: with toa It's the whole thing. When you have a
Speaker 1: young quarterback that's up and down. It's like the Trabisky
Speaker 1: thing in Chicago, it's darnal in New York. It's every
Speaker 1: quarterback two is not at that level. But we can
Speaker 1: point out facts, which is he looked great when they
Speaker 1: had a quick game last week when he got the
Speaker 1: ball out quick and the kind of the play call
Speaker 1: one for him and he's good at that stuff and
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that. But when he had to hold
Speaker 1: the ball, it was a disaster. You want to talk
Speaker 1: about pressure. A couple of times he held the ball
Speaker 1: last week. The Patriots won every down if they if
Speaker 1: they play poorly and two has a bad day, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a big story heading into a week Week
Speaker 1: three from Miami. Al Right, it uh snakes to me
Speaker 1: and what what the hell? I'll sweep out the a
Speaker 1: FC East. I can't. I can't risk it Gregg taking
Speaker 1: patch jets um, So I will grab it and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I am noivous um after watching Patriots.
Speaker 1: By the way, Bill, what are you doing? You're the
Speaker 1: greatest coach of all time? Now, what are we doing
Speaker 1: a TV studio show with Zolac for? What's that about?
Speaker 1: He's probably obligated to. I don't think he's doing it
Speaker 1: for his own enjoyment. I think Bill can do whatever
Speaker 1: he wants. Yeah, I mean it's like a Patriots per auction.
Speaker 1: But I think Dan's right and Bill is definitely dictating
Speaker 1: the terms of whatever that involvement is. It's it's the
Speaker 1: thing where he is it the same thing he does
Speaker 1: every year now zolex involved, but it's he just breaks down,
Speaker 1: like one play a week, he comes in and talks
Speaker 1: about a thing he probably put his foot down on.
Speaker 1: He like came into the studio or he came up
Speaker 1: on the monitor and he saw Zola He's like, take
Speaker 1: off those sunglasses. Let me ask you know that Zolac
Speaker 1: knows that Belichick doesn't respect him, and that's all Belichick needs.
Speaker 1: Would you rather talk to a former quarterback, even even
Speaker 1: if it's Zolak And I don't know Zolac personally, but
Speaker 1: we've got issues with him on the show, or or
Speaker 1: just some sort of reporter JABRUNI Well, it depends on
Speaker 1: the reporter. I feel like he'd rather talk to Mike
Speaker 1: greath and the Tom cerr And al right, so this
Speaker 1: is what this is what my point is. My point
Speaker 1: is not to talk Zolac. It's to talk Bellichick. Studying
Speaker 1: the Zach Wilson tape and this is on Twitter. You
Speaker 1: could find it check it out. Um and Belichick going
Speaker 1: through not just one play, going through an entire game
Speaker 1: of footage um of Zack Wilson, and he was complimentary
Speaker 1: and UM, it's just it's interesting seeing Belichick breakdown tape
Speaker 1: and and I'm just thinking he's saying all these nice things,
Speaker 1: but you just know the boy who shall lead them
Speaker 1: is in grave danger because the hooded one is planning
Speaker 1: something dire. So he's he's you know, he's on an
Speaker 1: autopilot going through the video and he's got zolac, you know,
Speaker 1: they're so he just feeding zolac what he needs. But
Speaker 1: you know, as watch the tape, he's studying Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: and he wants to ruin Zach Wilson. And Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: doesn't need more to help people trying to ruin him
Speaker 1: because his own offensive line almost got him killed last week.
Speaker 1: Ten hits, six sacks, and now I will say this,
Speaker 1: as bad as the old line was last week against
Speaker 1: the Panthers, um, and it's not gonna get better because
Speaker 1: McKay Beckton's out at least six weeks with the knee injury.
Speaker 1: Wilson was responsible for some of those sacks as well.
Speaker 1: And that's just the issue when you have a first
Speaker 1: year quarterback with limited experience who ran a college um
Speaker 1: Ran was the college program that didn't have really a
Speaker 1: true pro offense where you have to make decisions in
Speaker 1: the same way a pro quarterback does. Things are gonna
Speaker 1: take a while for Wilson to be comfortable in this setup.
Speaker 1: But from a positive stand positive standpoint was Wilson was
Speaker 1: when he was getting destroyed in that second half. It
Speaker 1: kind of could have snowballed and he would have had
Speaker 1: a nothing burger game. Instead, he threw two touchdowns. He
Speaker 1: got drilled late in the game and got up and
Speaker 1: throw a beautiful touchdown past the Corey Davis, and I
Speaker 1: just thought there was a lot of good there, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, you cannot get this kid hurt because
Speaker 1: if they do what they did yet last week on
Speaker 1: that line and their protect protection schemes and Michael floores
Speaker 1: on on the spot here too, to be smart about
Speaker 1: this protecting the boy, he won't make it till October.
Speaker 1: So that's a big thing I'm worried about. In this game.
Speaker 1: I was a little throne by how punished he was
Speaker 1: because I thought in this MICHAELA Floor offense that if anything,
Speaker 1: it's quarterback friendly and you find ways for to keep
Speaker 1: your quarterback safe. I kind of like that he had
Speaker 1: to go through so much last week because it taught
Speaker 1: me a lot about him. I didn't watch this game
Speaker 1: till last night, and UM, I'll make it justin Herbert
Speaker 1: comparison because it brought me a fair amount of excitement.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm at the point now I think
Speaker 1: there was a a Jets Brown's kind of rivalry between
Speaker 1: Dan and I because they were both in such dark places.
Speaker 1: But I am rooting for this guy because I find
Speaker 1: him to be a rugged human who every single time
Speaker 1: he got lamb based in last week got up and
Speaker 1: there are things he does with his arm, and I
Speaker 1: think Belichick at least um honestly complimented him about his
Speaker 1: live arm and what he can do outside of the pocket.
Speaker 1: He's exciting to watch. I have never watched the Jets
Speaker 1: game with a quarterback like this, and so I think,
Speaker 1: no matter what the results are, UM arrow him, help
Speaker 1: you do and I like they had to come up
Speaker 1: with a better plan. But you you mentioned this on
Speaker 1: Twitter two because everyone likes Joe Douglas the Jets GM
Speaker 1: is first of all, if you picked the right quarterback,
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna love him. But he's had years to get
Speaker 1: this line together and they poured, They've used draft picks,
Speaker 1: they've tried to make it work, but it's still not working.
Speaker 1: And the only thing you worry about. And I think
Speaker 1: of guys like Tim Couch back in the day, but
Speaker 1: there's fifty of these people that if you get too battered,
Speaker 1: that you start to lose it from the neck up.
Speaker 1: And does that affect you in year two and beyond?
Speaker 1: I mean, you just cannot have him too punished. I
Speaker 1: tend to believe if you're the guy, you'll be the guy.
Speaker 1: And Zach Wilson, I think he looks like the guy
Speaker 1: to me. I think Zach, you know, to put it
Speaker 1: on a Patriots be fan being nervous about it. Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson has what Bill Belichick can't plan for, though, which
Speaker 1: is he's just like not afraid and he can make
Speaker 1: plays on his own. And those are the quarterbacks who
Speaker 1: have traditionally given Bill Belichick the biggest problems. Cam Newton
Speaker 1: and his prime certainly Patrick Mahomes. The guys who's like,
Speaker 1: what am I gonna call for that? And yes, you
Speaker 1: can confuse the protection scheme the Panthers did last week.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Patriots are good upfront, as
Speaker 1: as the Panthers are. I was not impressed by the
Speaker 1: Patriots defense last week. I thought they were lucky that
Speaker 1: they only gave up sixteen points. They didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: we there was a lot of buzz about them. They
Speaker 1: didn't win a lot of one on one matchups. Um,
Speaker 1: you would think Belichick, you're right, can can cook him
Speaker 1: up a little bit. But he's got he's got that
Speaker 1: that thing you can't teach. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: fascinating though the offensive line conversation. There was a report
Speaker 1: that the Patriots were gonna take Elijah Avera Tucker. The
Speaker 1: paid the Jets first round pick, which the Jets gave
Speaker 1: up a third to move up ahead of New England.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a totally crazy sliding doors moment because
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have drafted mac Jones. I have a hard
Speaker 1: time believing that like that, you know it's a report.
Speaker 1: Is that maybe the report's not right because they wouldn't
Speaker 1: have traded Matt you wouldn't have drafted mac Jones, and
Speaker 1: then everything would be very very I'm not panicking totally
Speaker 1: on the offensive line yet, but it is true. I
Speaker 1: think Joe Douglas has gotten a lot of rope early
Speaker 1: on here because he took over and uh, you know
Speaker 1: in a strange situation with Gaye getting the GM hired.
Speaker 1: But now these are all his guys. These are all
Speaker 1: the guys he brought in, including, like Greg said, trading
Speaker 1: up to get the guard that he wanted, McKay Beckton,
Speaker 1: who's starting to get me nervous about can that guy
Speaker 1: stay healthy? Um, there are things that need to start
Speaker 1: to click there. And I think with Belichick, as we know, um,
Speaker 1: he likes to say, Okay, who's the guy the quarterback
Speaker 1: loves and trusts? Okay, for so far is Zack Wilson.
Speaker 1: It's Corey Davis. So I expect Corey Davis to have
Speaker 1: some issues in this game. So Elijah Moore a camp hero,
Speaker 1: is he gonna be able to step up Jamison Crowder
Speaker 1: if he's back, is he able gonna make some place?
Speaker 1: Can the running game get going? You can't give it
Speaker 1: to the kid and say do everything it doesn't work out. Um,
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see how aggressive they let mac
Speaker 1: Jones be throwing, because it seems pretty clear the biggest
Speaker 1: weakness on the Jets is their secondary in their cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: and you would think the recipe here is don't be
Speaker 1: too conservative, throw the ball a lot, but they saw
Speaker 1: but he got hit a lot last week, and they
Speaker 1: they did call it pretty conservative for most of the game.
Speaker 1: So I'd like to see them be a gress. We'll see,
Speaker 1: just I'm not feeling as confident. I feel as like
Speaker 1: the odds makers are. They're pretty heavy favorites, six point favorites,
Speaker 1: and Patriots fans are just thinking like this is an
Speaker 1: eleven twelve one team, all right, let's see it. And
Speaker 1: the Jets Patriots rivalry is just in a different place
Speaker 1: now than it than it was. Brady's gone now, gaze
Speaker 1: has gone to It's just like a whole different five
Speaker 1: two things. Mac Jones refusing the first touchdown ball is
Speaker 1: just like I know that stuff. It's just it's relentless,
Speaker 1: like just keep the ball. He was going to be
Speaker 1: a Patriot enough. He waves it away and then the
Speaker 1: other thing. And I saw it immediately in reports, and
Speaker 1: this is the carrying of the water up there in
Speaker 1: New England, the reporters and everything. It's like Damien Harris
Speaker 1: brutal fumble there cost them the game. I understand. Xavian Howard,
Speaker 1: by the way, is a All Pro player who just
Speaker 1: made a great play, and immediately it's like, Okay, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be in the doghouse. The other kid that fumble
Speaker 1: is gonna be in the doghouse. These guys will never
Speaker 1: get a main role in the offense. Again, All these
Speaker 1: things are gonna happen. Can we just calm down. Can
Speaker 1: a guy make him a steak? Can running back make
Speaker 1: a mistake in New England and live the tale? I mean,
Speaker 1: let's see scale. When you're as good as Damien Harris,
Speaker 1: who is clearly the best running back on the team
Speaker 1: and looked awesome, then Bell doesn't. It's more a coverage
Speaker 1: thing of the Patriots, I think than even a Patriots thing,
Speaker 1: although of course there is something to it, Like I
Speaker 1: hope Damien Harris and not just because he's on my
Speaker 1: fantasy team, but it doesn't doesn't hurt. I hope Damian
Speaker 1: Harris doesn't get seven carries on Sunday because he fumbled
Speaker 1: once in a game. I'm not worried about that. But
Speaker 1: historically some of the backs that have fumbled were never
Speaker 1: seen again by their families or anyone. So was there
Speaker 1: that was on Wes's radar. Who was a guy Jonas
Speaker 1: Gray who went over two hundred yards in his first
Speaker 1: game and then fumble that he was late for practice. West. Yeah,
Speaker 1: West never forgave I mean, change his life for not
Speaker 1: letting him play. He's imagined that. Imagine you go for
Speaker 1: two hundred yards and four touchdowns on Sunday Night football,
Speaker 1: and then your iPhone battery dies and you wake up
Speaker 1: and it's nine am at Patriots practice at A That's
Speaker 1: what happened. I'm sure he went to bed earlier. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there was nothing else going on there with wife practice. Greg,
Speaker 1: you're up, Okay, I'm getting I got my dream draft.
Speaker 1: I really only wanted two games. I got them both.
Speaker 1: The second one is the Philadelphia Eagles hosting the San
Speaker 1: Francantino forty Niners. I picked the upset on the dot com.
Speaker 1: I took the Eagles to win this game because I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be a tough matchup for teams right now.
Speaker 1: I still think the forty Niners are just a better
Speaker 1: team and they're gonna have a great season. But I
Speaker 1: think this is a tough spot because like Baltimore a
Speaker 1: few years ago, and like some of these teams that
Speaker 1: run college type offenses. I don't know how easy they're
Speaker 1: gonna be to prepare for this Eagles team before they
Speaker 1: put some tape on the board, and I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to throw new wrinkles in every week.
Speaker 1: I loved what Sirianna showed last week. They also were
Speaker 1: pretty creative defensively, but that's more just assist to me
Speaker 1: see elsewhere. They're running a college type of running game,
Speaker 1: and the Lions had some success running up the middle
Speaker 1: against San Francisco. I think that might be the weak
Speaker 1: part of their defense if you can, and I think
Speaker 1: they can shorten games, and I think it's early in
Speaker 1: the season. I love the Jalen Hurts Nick Sirianni handshake.
Speaker 1: They got a special handshake. Did you see that? I
Speaker 1: have like they're vibing. It's good, you know, like it
Speaker 1: teaches me a lesson because like Nick Sirianni was a
Speaker 1: joke to us for much of the off season because
Speaker 1: he is not necessarily like CEO front facing speech giver man.
Speaker 1: Although I swear he's gained ten pounds of muscles since then.
Speaker 1: It also like those speeches have gone away. But don't
Speaker 1: you I feel like we are gonna think completely different
Speaker 1: about Nick Sirianni by the end of the season, and
Speaker 1: we already do. I mean, he looks like a good
Speaker 1: higher right. I always wondering, I'm I'm getting overly carried
Speaker 1: away because I love the Eagles, But I do think
Speaker 1: it's like a fun offense. They created a perfect offense
Speaker 1: for for Jalen Hurts, and it's like he's sort of
Speaker 1: Sirianni said, like, like my whole thing was and there
Speaker 1: are coaches that are not like this. Even still in
Speaker 1: He's like, I want to go in and build it
Speaker 1: around the players that we have, And like, I loved
Speaker 1: what I saw from Demontes Devanto Smith last last week.
Speaker 1: I mean they needed one of these wide receivers to
Speaker 1: step up. Jalen Reagor had a good game for once.
Speaker 1: I mean that wasn't the case last year. And Next
Speaker 1: Gen Stats points out that Jalen Hurts his average pass
Speaker 1: traveled three point seven yards past the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: shorter and shortest of any started the league. That's yards
Speaker 1: after the catch. That's putting him into a scenario where
Speaker 1: he can complete passes. He was twenty seven for thirty
Speaker 1: five and he absolutely does defensive coordinators on the ground.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing with that, it's like that's good, but good,
Speaker 1: good defensive coaches and better defenses are going to clamp
Speaker 1: down on that. That's what he has a deep ball too, though,
Speaker 1: And guess what the Falcons. Listen, we don't want to
Speaker 1: make too much of anything in week one, but they
Speaker 1: could be two and fifteen the way they looked in
Speaker 1: that game. So they're They're one of the teams the
Speaker 1: Eagles that I'm I opened my mind more, my mind
Speaker 1: more than any other team. Like okay, maybe, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I see this now, but I also you have to
Speaker 1: factor in that the Falcons were a joke in Week one,
Speaker 1: so they didn't show up. So it's like, what do
Speaker 1: I take a team to do? Though? You blow out? Um,
Speaker 1: that's why, really I'm excited to see how they look
Speaker 1: against the team that's prepared and has more talent level
Speaker 1: than the Falcons. One reason that Eagles are not a fluke.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, we know this, we knew
Speaker 1: this coming into the year to some degrees, all in
Speaker 1: offensive line, defensive line. That's that's how you win, go
Speaker 1: win ten games, even if you're lesser and stay healthy.
Speaker 1: So they hooked up Henry's boy Jordan my Latta hadn't
Speaker 1: mentioned it to a massive extension before the season. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Some people thought was like, oh, this is too early,
Speaker 1: like why are you paying this guy who hasn't totally
Speaker 1: proven it yet? And I thought it was really smart
Speaker 1: because they got a little bit of a discount on
Speaker 1: a guy they've seen all offseason continue to develop and
Speaker 1: they believe he can be a top five left tackle
Speaker 1: and the way he played last week, he already And
Speaker 1: they just have those running plays where Lane Johnson and
Speaker 1: Kelsey and my Latta are destroying opponents that just kind
Speaker 1: of get you out of your seat if they if
Speaker 1: this is who Jalen Hurts is on a week to
Speaker 1: week basis still win ten or eleven games well, and
Speaker 1: he's on on an audition, so good good. First, he
Speaker 1: can hit guys when you do protect for him, he
Speaker 1: can hit open guys, which sounds like not an obvious
Speaker 1: like and that's sort of like the baseline of whether
Speaker 1: you're a starting quarterback, like at least to be like
Speaker 1: an Andy Dalton. All right, Mark, you're up, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. Uh. The Minnesota Vikings one wait one thing.
Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt you, Ricky, I know you wanted to
Speaker 1: jump in. Yeah, definitely. I think that the forty Niners
Speaker 1: are still figuring their stuff out. I mean, Trey Lance
Speaker 1: through the first touchdown for the forty Niners last week
Speaker 1: and go off through a pick six, So like that score,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think they haven't. As much as I
Speaker 1: trust Shanahan. There's so many injuries too that they're dealing with.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go ahead and side with Greg here,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to lock up the Eagle underdog. Alright.
Speaker 1: I like it, Ricky. Now are you okay with that?
Speaker 1: Does that make up for the RAMS lock? I mean, well,
Speaker 1: the RAMS one doesn't count. She she volunteered to take
Speaker 1: a loss. I'm willing to consider. No, we said, she knew.
Speaker 1: You got to know the rules too. That was like,
Speaker 1: are we going we're going back down this avenue? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Mark. You put it, well, it's dense,
Speaker 1: it's a dense and thorny and confusing. Uh, and it's
Speaker 1: it's trailing away from us. All right, go ahead, Mark,
Speaker 1: I as mentioned, I'm gonna go Minnesota Vikings, Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: and it is not because of the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were kind of an annoying team to watch in
Speaker 1: Week one. Yeah, I has a twelve penalties, I mean
Speaker 1: a penalty ridden, um mistake prone team, and you know,
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer obviously just more annoyed than ever. Her cousins
Speaker 1: through for three fifty one yards in that game. No,
Speaker 1: you and Zimmer are kind of kissing cousins in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. Like I see, if I had to say,
Speaker 1: who's the NFL coach you I most connect with, Mark,
Speaker 1: it's Zimmer really just like always kind of like ready
Speaker 1: like that. It's it checks out a lot of things
Speaker 1: that are yours. Kind of the coach I'm most worried
Speaker 1: about just um like just having too much stress in
Speaker 1: his life. I will, I'll process that. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that I that the comparison, but a guy that's respected
Speaker 1: and everyone likes him now a lot of cooking a
Speaker 1: lot of cooking and behind the eyes. Well, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what I feel about Cliff Kingsbury yet, but um,
Speaker 1: I do think that last week, if anything, took some
Speaker 1: heat off a coach that you know, I think we
Speaker 1: put on the hot seat in one of our podcasts,
Speaker 1: not too far back, one of the hottest butts, one
Speaker 1: of the hottest butts. And one thing about the Cardinals physically, No,
Speaker 1: well I don't know. He's he works out, but that's
Speaker 1: not what would mean No, no major issues there um
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and we talked about offensive lines a minute ago.
Speaker 1: He went out of his way to say that Rodney Hudson,
Speaker 1: their center, has made an absolute ton of world of differentners.
Speaker 1: Get rid of this guy, I don't under God. And
Speaker 1: good job by the Cardinals because there are a hundred teams,
Speaker 1: well there's only thirty teams, but there are a bunch
Speaker 1: of teams that could have used Roddy Harritt Hudson, and
Speaker 1: he went to the Cardinals on a on a trade
Speaker 1: that wasn't too rough in terms of what they had
Speaker 1: to give up to get him. Yeah, and we questioned
Speaker 1: their offseason the A. J. Green and J. J. Watt
Speaker 1: beyond the prime potentially, But Hudson has been a home run.
Speaker 1: And I think that's for me as a reason to
Speaker 1: believe that what happened last week, there's no fluky nature
Speaker 1: to what happened last week for the Cardinals for me, yes, somewhat.
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones getting five sacks won't happen again four thousand generations.
Speaker 1: But um, it does tell you that they're able to
Speaker 1: generate pressure, that their defense looked so much better than
Speaker 1: I thought it would a week ago. And Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: is an m VP candidate, and I had kind of
Speaker 1: fallen out of belief in Kyler Murray a little bit,
Speaker 1: or I just started to question it was it was
Speaker 1: hurt down the stretch. But also, you know our friend
Speaker 1: Jason Zumwald, Um, I think he makes a good point
Speaker 1: that his bickering about the Cardinals over the off season
Speaker 1: was tied to some degree about the fact that so
Speaker 1: much of the team, our guys were like five nine
Speaker 1: and five ten and shorter. But when you've got the
Speaker 1: speed and when you can produce what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: It's enjoyable. It's enjoyable. Um. I just can't wait to
Speaker 1: watch the Cardinals. You know, in live It's it happened.
Speaker 1: This is also at four oh five. Well, it's not
Speaker 1: into teams short. I mean, I take offense. I don't
Speaker 1: know where he's at today. I think his movie The
Speaker 1: probably that many short guys other than Rondell Moore and
Speaker 1: Greg like He's not taking a shot at you being
Speaker 1: five six point two. He's talking about footballs putting the
Speaker 1: ceiling on the athletic potential of short people, um, which
Speaker 1: has been done forever. I don't think you were included
Speaker 1: in the critique, but I'll check back with him on that.
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm not even sure what the critique is
Speaker 1: on his On his part, I will note this game
Speaker 1: is at four oh five, which is the way I
Speaker 1: like to do things. Get you get well, not the
Speaker 1: first games going forever, but you want to get that
Speaker 1: four o'clock versus running late. You're banged in a big spot.
Speaker 1: It's you know, suddenly I'm tracking three games, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and bad job by you guys. I gotta say, what
Speaker 1: do you mean that, DLin Cook? I can't believe they
Speaker 1: that that changed that game and not I'm not saying
Speaker 1: the Vikings even deserved to win that game because the
Speaker 1: Bengals were even. Dalvin Cook didn't complain. He said it
Speaker 1: was a bang bang player and Dalvid Cook's gotta hold
Speaker 1: onto the ball. But I am just surprised. We're like
Speaker 1: shocked that that was ruled a fumble. He was on
Speaker 1: his butt and the ball is still in his hands,
Speaker 1: and then they went and they reviewed it, and I know,
Speaker 1: you gotta stick with the call in the field, but
Speaker 1: if like if you see his buttocks like super slow
Speaker 1: motion and you didn't have the great anger, that's just
Speaker 1: a huge call to make in that spot. I guess
Speaker 1: hold onto the ball down the cook. I see that
Speaker 1: side of it too. I just mean, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: into getting mad at like replays anymore unless it's like incredible.
Speaker 1: It's like we're we're it's like if you have to
Speaker 1: slow it down, it's I don't know, never as obvious
Speaker 1: as people make it. I don't think the Vikings were
Speaker 1: quite as bad as as I just find. My cousins
Speaker 1: played well, but their offensive line was was a problem.
Speaker 1: That's the reason the reason I picked the Cardinals. I
Speaker 1: like them to cover three and a half points is
Speaker 1: their defense Vance Joseph. I think people got to start
Speaker 1: given Vance Joseph a little love. I love the way
Speaker 1: that Buddha Baker and these guys we don't even know about,
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy and Robert Alfred who hasn't played in like
Speaker 1: seven years, were just flying away there around There was
Speaker 1: some sort of like energy there that was that was special.
Speaker 1: We actually interviewed Robert Alfred one one evening. I don't
Speaker 1: recall that a number of years. Mark, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Cleveland Houston. I don't think it's a premier matchup, um,
Speaker 1: but I would say this, I want to just see
Speaker 1: after what the Texans did last week, the nervous Browns
Speaker 1: fan and me could could kind of go to the
Speaker 1: place like is this trap game potential? I think Cleveland,
Speaker 1: you have to look at what the Browns did again
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. They had the most yards in the
Speaker 1: league last week. They had four touchdown drives of seventy
Speaker 1: five yards or more. They had eight new starters on
Speaker 1: defense and still hung around for the most part. I mean,
Speaker 1: they didn't stop Kansas City on any level, but you
Speaker 1: look at that first half. It was mistakes that undid them.
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. They held the Chiefs running
Speaker 1: backs to forty nine yards. Houston wants to run the
Speaker 1: ball with four different running backs. They run and running
Speaker 1: all day long and keep a safe environment for Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 1: There's no excuse for Cleveland not to win this game.
Speaker 1: And also the one thing about the Browns now, I
Speaker 1: want to see where Jeddrick Wills is because uh, Chris
Speaker 1: Hubbard came in and did not play well at left tackle.
Speaker 1: And if you want to go back two seasons ago
Speaker 1: to that's when chaos started for Baker Mayfield. When those
Speaker 1: play well, I mean, it's it just gets worse and worse.
Speaker 1: So it's that that that that's a concert. It was.
Speaker 1: I have no internet, so I am unable to give
Speaker 1: you an answer to that. You could research that we're
Speaker 1: getting getting us not expected to play. They're not going
Speaker 1: to announce it. It feels like he's week to week
Speaker 1: it Fields. I mean, if anything, it was like a
Speaker 1: sigh of relief that it wasn't a season entrance. That's
Speaker 1: what it looked like in the game to two new
Speaker 1: faces for Cleveland. Malik McDowell along the defensive line. Um
Speaker 1: was a beast last week and they if if he
Speaker 1: continues that a pace, they may have a top seven
Speaker 1: defensive line and that would be scary to think about. Uh. Secondly,
Speaker 1: I think we all saw Anthony Schwartz his speed. They
Speaker 1: used him right away. He had sixty yards in the
Speaker 1: first quarter that used him on a seventeen yards sweep.
Speaker 1: I think if you're Kevin Stefanski. You love that you
Speaker 1: have this new aspect. We don't have Ojil O'Dell Beckham
Speaker 1: in this game. That's the only big news I love, Schwartz.
Speaker 1: I think they're being safe with Odell. I don't. I know,
Speaker 1: it's like, let's raise panic signals but not panic signals.
Speaker 1: But I think they're just being very cautious because honestly,
Speaker 1: here's well he well, I mean, a year ago he
Speaker 1: was the final piece for this team, we were told,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying a week ago he's warming up on
Speaker 1: the field the four week one, thinking about whether I'm
Speaker 1: playing or not, and then three days later on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: he's ruled out. And it's just like, hmm, well, it's this,
Speaker 1: I mean, the timeline of his recovery compared to plenty
Speaker 1: other A C. L or hooveries, it's clear that it's
Speaker 1: not going well, but it's hard to know much more
Speaker 1: than that. In in maybe when he does return he'll
Speaker 1: be fine. Swartz Um, you know, I love celebrating a
Speaker 1: Schwartz here on Jewish holiday. Yam Kapoor, you know they're
Speaker 1: making us work on that. I think that's unfair. That
Speaker 1: is that it is Fineman and oh, I don't actually observe,
Speaker 1: So Gregg's had to come into the office for an
Speaker 1: hour and forty minutes, and I was lodging a complaining
Speaker 1: sort of tucking my cheek. I've never You're right, though,
Speaker 1: Kleiman and Schneider are big observers. Hi Holidays. McDowell is
Speaker 1: turning from one of the best stories of training camp. Hey,
Speaker 1: here's this guy whose career was over because of the
Speaker 1: a TV accident and he made a team years later
Speaker 1: to like one of the best pickups in the entire
Speaker 1: NFL that they basically got this total diff maker who
Speaker 1: looks like Shaquille O'Neal out there, the largest defensive lineman
Speaker 1: i've i've ever seen, Malik McDowell. That's what Andrew Berry does.
Speaker 1: We undersaw Tyrod uh not undersold them, but like I
Speaker 1: didn't make a big enough deal because I didn't have
Speaker 1: a chance to really zoom in on that game last week.
Speaker 1: If they get this Tyrode all season, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: That game was outrageous. He was one of the you know,
Speaker 1: five or six best quarterbacks in the league. But people
Speaker 1: do forget from seventeen. I went and checked the old
Speaker 1: QB Index I was just curious. Uh, Tyrode's end of
Speaker 1: your ratings were fifteen, seventeen seventeen. It was a solid quarterback.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's only thirty two years old. He could be again.
Speaker 1: I think it would be truly enjoyable to see the
Speaker 1: Texans kind of go a weird nine and eight and
Speaker 1: tell everyone right and I feel better. I've thought about that, Mark,
Speaker 1: because they'd be kind of a to get behind. But
Speaker 1: they're also deactivating Deshaun Watson every week and are totally
Speaker 1: two faced with the media about that and to me
Speaker 1: have covered themselves um an inglorious fashion on at a
Speaker 1: team level of how they've handled it. So it's look,
Speaker 1: it makes me hard to wrap my mind. It's convoluted.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying for the Tyrod Taylor's, the Mark Ingram's,
Speaker 1: the Philip Lindsay's of the world, the people that have
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that, like they have been told
Speaker 1: all offseason, you are floating trash. How about your boy
Speaker 1: Mark not Mark with the sea. He looked pretty good.
Speaker 1: I thought his career was kind of overt This Brown schedule,
Speaker 1: Dan's counting out the Texans maybe three wins. See, this
Speaker 1: is where if I had the internet that mark ingram
Speaker 1: drop ready we got okay, the casey narrow loss. You've
Speaker 1: got the Texans. Look at this mark you got the Browns,
Speaker 1: I mean the Bears at home next week and then
Speaker 1: off to Minnesota. So pick up a dub here, get
Speaker 1: some momentum going. Let's on, Greg. Oh no, this is
Speaker 1: where not as prepared as I could be. But I'll
Speaker 1: just take I'll just take a random game. Let's go
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Atlanta. That's early right, Uh, that is a
Speaker 1: late game. Set yourself up with after you already up
Speaker 1: at the body. We can take it back. We could
Speaker 1: totally take it. Have taken it back. Look, yeah, rule,
Speaker 1: what are what's the game if it doesn't have rule?
Speaker 1: We ever said that as a rule? What are the
Speaker 1: rules of the rules and a rule? All right, let's
Speaker 1: do uh, we'll do Bucks Falcons at this point. Uh,
Speaker 1: what a disaster for the Falcons to have to play
Speaker 1: that team. I don't mean last week, because that was
Speaker 1: a disaster, but what about the Dean pas revenge game
Speaker 1: former Patriots old defensive coordinator against his old buddy Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: There's just nothing they could possibly do to slow down
Speaker 1: this gear's offense. It's just nothing. They got ten days
Speaker 1: to plan for this team, the Bucks that was winning
Speaker 1: outside the numbers against cornerbacks and safeties. He was moving
Speaker 1: really well. He if he played like that throughout the season,
Speaker 1: that is a different element to their offense. Geo Bernard,
Speaker 1: your boy made a diving catch on their game winning
Speaker 1: drive on I think it was third down. That was
Speaker 1: better than any route or any catch that the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: had from a running back all year. And I when
Speaker 1: I saw that play again, I was like, Oh, that's
Speaker 1: gonna register with Tom Brady, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: we don't want old old playoff Lenny and Ronald Jones
Speaker 1: out here. I want my boy, Geo. When it matters,
Speaker 1: I would say this like The Athletic noted that the
Speaker 1: Falcons were the only team that did not produce a
Speaker 1: single gain of twenty plus yards last week, and they
Speaker 1: were of two offenses that didn't score a touchdown. If
Speaker 1: you want a bright spot, because I covered that game
Speaker 1: last week and after the first quarter it looked like
Speaker 1: it was going to be competitive and fiery from wire
Speaker 1: to wire, and then the Falcons fell off a cliff.
Speaker 1: But the first two drives they drove down to Philly's
Speaker 1: nine and three yard line. They were both field goals.
Speaker 1: But if you watch those first two drives, that's what
Speaker 1: I think Arthur Smith wants to do Matt Ryan offensively.
Speaker 1: But I mean, they just they just have to do
Speaker 1: that right. They cannot be that bad again. But we
Speaker 1: keep talking about offensive lines. There's was a hot mess
Speaker 1: last week, and you don't trust that. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: super annoyed by the way if if we went through
Speaker 1: the entire draft process being told that Kyle Pitts is
Speaker 1: a legitimate god and then he does what every rookie
Speaker 1: tight end does, which is go for one week. I
Speaker 1: just I'm just getting it's it's on my radar because
Speaker 1: I will because you already already pulled this routine with
Speaker 1: me with O. J. Howard a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: And this guy and that guy and this guy and
Speaker 1: that guy. Do not hit me with a bunch of
Speaker 1: four two for Kyle Pitts. And my other thought with
Speaker 1: Ronck is I hope I hope he stays healthy. Um,
Speaker 1: I also know he's older, the body gets beat up
Speaker 1: as the season goes along. We might not see that
Speaker 1: version again at any point last year or the year before.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I hope he is able to stay healthy,
Speaker 1: he doesn't get dinged up and becomes lumbering Gronk again,
Speaker 1: because it was pretty cool to see him carving up
Speaker 1: um that secondary And also like man if Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: is going to be Antonio Brown again, if Gronk is
Speaker 1: going to be even close to that with Godwin and
Speaker 1: they didn't even need Mike Evans in Week one. By
Speaker 1: the way, Tom Brady is literally having another peak of
Speaker 1: his career. He is making more big time throws than
Speaker 1: he did you according to PF at any point in
Speaker 1: his career, and it doesn't surprise me. It kind of
Speaker 1: goes back to people who thought his arm was going
Speaker 1: to like his arm streak never went away, and him
Speaker 1: in this offense. He's taking more risk and he'll probably
Speaker 1: have more negative plays, but he is making more big
Speaker 1: time throws than he ever. You can't really look at
Speaker 1: his last eight or nine games and say he's anything
Speaker 1: but the best quarterback or maybe the second best quarterback
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Well, I think also, it's no stupid,
Speaker 1: it's no minor factor there. He's in an offense he
Speaker 1: feels super comfortable in now where a year ago. They
Speaker 1: you know, even they were seven and five at one
Speaker 1: point there were growing pains. All right, let's keep moving here.
Speaker 1: Last pick of the draft. I have to grab a
Speaker 1: late game, so I will take Tennessee at Seattle. Not bad, Um, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: What do you make of that game? That was? You
Speaker 1: know when you fire up the old game pass and
Speaker 1: you watch these games, and you knew it was gonna
Speaker 1: be bad, but then you watch it like, oh, that
Speaker 1: was even worse than I thought it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: Just their inability to get anything going, the fact that
Speaker 1: midway through the third quarter Derrick Henry had ten carries
Speaker 1: for nine yards um and they couldn't get it first
Speaker 1: down until it was almost halftime. The fact that it
Speaker 1: was in their building. I mean, the a bomb was
Speaker 1: dropped in the middle Nashville. All right, now you gotta
Speaker 1: spin forward, you gotta get away from all that, and
Speaker 1: you get a Seattle defense, which we're still learning what
Speaker 1: they're gonna be. Is this gonna be a capable unit?
Speaker 1: They certainly look that way against the Colts, but we
Speaker 1: know the Cults are work in progress. Um, but certainly
Speaker 1: a good start. It's in Seattle, So I think this
Speaker 1: is a tough spot for the Titans. But I also
Speaker 1: think even though Arthur Smith isn't there anymore, and I
Speaker 1: know that jury is kind of out in this room
Speaker 1: on Mike Vrabel and it's not just this room. Um.
Speaker 1: I got a feeling that that's one of those type
Speaker 1: of games that is probably from a coach standpoint, easier
Speaker 1: to rally the troops around, like everyone thinks you suck now.
Speaker 1: And now you're gonna go to Seattle and everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: pick the Seahawks and they have too many good players
Speaker 1: on that team and too much of a track record
Speaker 1: of success. I think for them to go and lay
Speaker 1: a second egg. I really like the Titans to go
Speaker 1: up there and win. I'm gonna pick the Titans to
Speaker 1: win this. I like the Titans to, uh to cover
Speaker 1: those five and a half points. I don't know, are
Speaker 1: we allowed to say that or not? Who really knows,
Speaker 1: but you can look you can look at it, okay.
Speaker 1: I like the Titans to go out and keep bit
Speaker 1: closer than it's expected. It's a five and a half
Speaker 1: point spread. I think that's that's too big. I'm not
Speaker 1: used to Seahawks playing like these boring games. They're supposed
Speaker 1: to play the not normal games, these wild endings. That's
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's m O. They do look a little more
Speaker 1: modern though. On offense they're doing tons of play action,
Speaker 1: which seems to fit Russell Wilson all the motions. Like Seahawks,
Speaker 1: Twitter will have nothing to complain about if if this
Speaker 1: Shane Waldron offense continues to look like this grave digger um.
Speaker 1: So obviously I'm confident that they're bouncing back. Am I crazy?
Speaker 1: Or do you? Are you worried about this game? I
Speaker 1: am a little worried about this game, But Mike Vrabel
Speaker 1: is actually seven and oh coming off a double digit
Speaker 1: point loss as they have there you go, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about lock it up? Well, I want to go that far.
Speaker 1: But do you now that was brothers have locked that's
Speaker 1: they've locked up the Seahawks. They're they're participating each week.
Speaker 1: I will get back to that in a second because
Speaker 1: we've got some there, but bury the ball game for
Speaker 1: the Titans. So you feel like they're going to be
Speaker 1: able to move on from this, I hope. So, so
Speaker 1: you don't sound confident, you're worried that game? You got spook?
Speaker 1: How could you be? I mean they're in Seattle. That's
Speaker 1: one of the toughest. Even in a good scenario, they
Speaker 1: take me, Ricky, the Titans pass rush all right, And yes,
Speaker 1: the Westling Brothers well, I won't say it was unanimous,
Speaker 1: but the Westling Brothers have locked up the Seahawks in
Speaker 1: this game. And let's hear from one of them. Phil, Hi,
Speaker 1: guys and Ricky, thanks for including the Westling Brothers and
Speaker 1: the Locks this year. I know Chris would be thrilled.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear about one thing. First. Last week's lock
Speaker 1: was Nick's lock and not the Brothers Lack. I do
Speaker 1: appreciate him setting this up there. This week we went
Speaker 1: with the Seahawks, they were the Titans. The reason for
Speaker 1: this is too fold. First, one of my brothers drink
Speaker 1: way too much orange kool aid over the weekend and
Speaker 1: was trying the lock up Bengals on the road against
Speaker 1: the Bears. I don't think this is a good idea
Speaker 1: at this point, and Chris would have none of it. Also,
Speaker 1: justin Field's place for the Bears, I like the way
Speaker 1: the Seahawks looked in Week one, wasn't too impressed with
Speaker 1: the Titans. So L O C K E T T
Speaker 1: lock it up, baby. One next thing I'd like to
Speaker 1: say is hi t Kisha and Link we miss you,
Speaker 1: you can't wait to see you. And new tradition of
Speaker 1: the show. We're gonna get the Westling brothers involved with
Speaker 1: those locks. There's heat there in fact, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I don't know if it was Nick or Phil
Speaker 1: sent me the thread of them going back and forth.
Speaker 1: And when the the idea that the Bengals could be
Speaker 1: locked up, um uh it was. It was stated that
Speaker 1: they thought that the tree that was planted at the
Speaker 1: farm could go up and flame. That would be it
Speaker 1: would be so ridiculous to do that. There'd be so
Speaker 1: much anger from the old Man and west together forever
Speaker 1: at the farm that the tree would go and flames.
Speaker 1: So I love this whole scenario. Nick. Nick is gonna
Speaker 1: come on when Nick comes on next, not only is
Speaker 1: he gonna be furious that Phil's voice has been on
Speaker 1: the show twice now without him getting on, He's gonna
Speaker 1: mock Phil's performance on the show. I am here for
Speaker 1: it all. Well, let's be real though, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's a very nice story that they're doing this, but
Speaker 1: they've got to they've got to deliver a win here,
Speaker 1: although if they wanted to start with west they would
Speaker 1: struggle in the Yeah, it was never his forte um.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you Westling brothers. And by the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: Nick didn't want to provide the voice this week because
Speaker 1: he doesn't stand by the lock. It's just it's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun what's going on behind the scenes. Brothers
Speaker 1: will be brothers. All right. Let's now, let's hit up
Speaker 1: the prime time games, and I'm gonna speed round the
Speaker 1: rest of the games this week because we've gotta get
Speaker 1: out of here. But let's start with Sunday night football,
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs at the Baltimore Ravens. Interesting game here,
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Tough situation. Not only do you do you
Speaker 1: find a way to lose that game? Mark in Vegas
Speaker 1: on Monday night and it was, you know, a weird game,
Speaker 1: as we talked about on our last podcast. Then you
Speaker 1: get on the plane and you're flying back to Baltimore,
Speaker 1: bulletmore murder Land, and you are saying to yourself, now,
Speaker 1: we got to get the Chiefs and primetime Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: We're gonna beat Patrick Mahomes in primetime. They are in
Speaker 1: a very tough spot right now. I wonder if the Ravens,
Speaker 1: who probably just typically ignore the Cleveland Browns, can learn
Speaker 1: from something that the Browns did last week, which was
Speaker 1: their immense aggressiveness going for it over and over on
Speaker 1: fourth down. Um from the fifteen, they went for it
Speaker 1: on fourth and thirteen and converted. Uh. They went for
Speaker 1: it on fourth and one from the five on the
Speaker 1: next drive. And that is how you built a lead
Speaker 1: the Ravens team. And I understand you know all the
Speaker 1: injuries that are banged up that I watched on Monday night.
Speaker 1: I just like when you the Chiefs in scenario the
Speaker 1: Chiefs is, they're essentially a video game. And unless you
Speaker 1: can stop Travis Kelsey. We saw what happened last week.
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna score thirty something points. Do we
Speaker 1: trust this Ravens offense the way they're built right now
Speaker 1: to a build a lead where you put the Ravens
Speaker 1: are a much better team if they can get out
Speaker 1: in front of Kansas City and do what they want
Speaker 1: to do. I know they don't have all their backs,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna use four different running backs and try
Speaker 1: to control the ball and use Lamar or if they
Speaker 1: get stuck from behind. Do you trust them on any
Speaker 1: level air wise to hang around or come back in
Speaker 1: a game. I mean, I think they've got they are
Speaker 1: an aggressive coaching staff, But I just think that the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs offer so many problems that there's really
Speaker 1: only two or three teams offensively in the league that
Speaker 1: can even come in with a chance to touch you. Well,
Speaker 1: the hits keep coming. There's a report on CBS that
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley, their left tackle, is unlikely to play this
Speaker 1: week and might be out multiple weeks. Don't totally shocking
Speaker 1: because he really struggled in that game. Bouk, Okay, there
Speaker 1: goes your left tackle. Oh by the way, um, you
Speaker 1: know one of your slot corners who was forced into action?
Speaker 1: What's his name? Westby? I I don't. I don't even
Speaker 1: know these guys. They're new guys. He played thirty three
Speaker 1: snaps last week. He had a pectoral injury. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be out for this game. At the Chiefs are the
Speaker 1: easy pick, you know, they They are three and a
Speaker 1: half points in this game. And this is the game
Speaker 1: that that most of America agrees on more than anyone,
Speaker 1: which is always a concern. And so you're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens at least they're gonna be proud,
Speaker 1: They're gonna show up. It kind of reminds me of
Speaker 1: late last season when everything looked like it was lost
Speaker 1: and they were so injured. Was when the Ravens played
Speaker 1: their best, but not it wouldn't make sense for them
Speaker 1: to be that competitive. They played eighties six players on
Speaker 1: defense last week before playing Kansas City on a on
Speaker 1: a short week, and that's the only way I see
Speaker 1: this not going going against the Chiefs if it's one
Speaker 1: of those things that, like sports, can actually figure these
Speaker 1: things out. Even though it makes all the sense of
Speaker 1: the world that the Chiefs are catching the Ravens at
Speaker 1: the perfect time, maybe you know, in their building, they
Speaker 1: put up a good fight, and I think they can.
Speaker 1: I just I'm just sticking with the idea that my
Speaker 1: homes is just gonna shred everyone every week. Well, he's
Speaker 1: also owned the Ravens and Lamar Jackson has his worst
Speaker 1: numbers passing wise against the Chiefs of almost any team,
Speaker 1: So Spagnolo's kind of owned the Ravens. And oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, the Chiefs get back Frank Clark and Honey Badger,
Speaker 1: their two best defensive players are expected to be back
Speaker 1: on the field they missed Week one. Holmes is eight
Speaker 1: no against the a f C North with the three
Speaker 1: touchdown to interception ratio last week, two hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: three of his three d and thirty seven yards went
Speaker 1: to Kelsey and Hill. Cleveland spent five months trying to
Speaker 1: figure out a way to stop Kelsey and Hill and
Speaker 1: had no way to do it. Can't. How with Baltimore
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't. And we talked about the crazy
Speaker 1: numbers um that Mahomes's career wise in September. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just we've never seen anything like it. So it's
Speaker 1: just this team is always gets out of the gates
Speaker 1: super fast, and the Ravens just to have their backup
Speaker 1: against well. I think the Ravens will be okay and
Speaker 1: they'll find their footing, but they might end up in
Speaker 1: a situation. And it's still very early and there's an
Speaker 1: extra game this year, But are they going to have
Speaker 1: to go on a run later in the year because
Speaker 1: they put themselves in a hole? Because I think oh
Speaker 1: and two is where they did um all right. Monday
Speaker 1: Night football, Detroit Lions, that Green Bay Packers not a
Speaker 1: great game kind of a bummer Monday night round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's just be quick on it um
Speaker 1: because I do, I really do. I mean, listen, you
Speaker 1: want to talk about bad timing the Lions, we could
Speaker 1: pat them on the back and and give him a
Speaker 1: lollipop for getting back in that game against the Niners.
Speaker 1: And we know there are all sorts of things behind
Speaker 1: that with Jason Rhett going out for San Francisco, which
Speaker 1: we don't I don't know if we really touched on
Speaker 1: um earlier, but that's a big deal for them. And
Speaker 1: then Detroit just got hot and garbage time. Now you've
Speaker 1: got green Bay coming off. They were humiliated in Week one.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was humiliated in Week one in prime time
Speaker 1: at Lambeau. They can't even put this game in ford Field.
Speaker 1: I hate when they do that in primetime games. I
Speaker 1: know it's a better vibe at Lamboat for a prime
Speaker 1: time production, but at least give the other team a chance.
Speaker 1: To me, this is a sacrifice. Well, and also they
Speaker 1: lost Jeff Okuda, and I mean Jeff Acuda struggled last
Speaker 1: year as a rookie. It's not that he was a
Speaker 1: star cornerback. But they have so very little behind him.
Speaker 1: They signed Daryl Worley, a veteran. But I mean, you
Speaker 1: just look at if if Aaron Rodgers is going to
Speaker 1: get right, and if last week was an aberration and
Speaker 1: something of a ghost affair, that maybe, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you couldn't find a better matchup in the league secondary
Speaker 1: wise in this situation. I thought the Lions though last week,
Speaker 1: if anything, we're not boring. For the first time in
Speaker 1: my lifetime, they were frisky down the stretch. Jared Goff
Speaker 1: showed a little bit after a pretty ugly stretch. I mean,
Speaker 1: the one thing about Golf his interception totally unspooled that
Speaker 1: team early on, and he's gonna do that again. I
Speaker 1: don't like the matchup at all. If you take t J.
Speaker 1: Hawkinson out, who was phenomenal, and I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have a huge year because he's sort of like the
Speaker 1: center of their offense outside of the run game. Well,
Speaker 1: their their hope is that this Packers defense thinks, or
Speaker 1: the Packers stink, or the Packers have some bad ergy
Speaker 1: I have. I'm not putting much. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any chance the Packers offense is gonna stick. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be fine, and especially in this matchup for
Speaker 1: the reasons you just pointed about. How open were those
Speaker 1: forty Niners receivers. There was no one within fifteen yards
Speaker 1: of those guys. It's just they do not have a
Speaker 1: corner back room. So I'm not worried about Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: long term. I'm definitely not worried about this week. Uh.
Speaker 1: But the Packers had a little bit of h early
Speaker 1: season Cowboys defense vibes last year. It was just like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you got them? Do I got them? And it's
Speaker 1: just like wide open guys running through prairie lands because
Speaker 1: they're trying to get a little too complicated in their defensive.
Speaker 1: That would be the hope. Because there was a little
Speaker 1: bit of professionalism and aggressiveness in the lines offense. I'll
Speaker 1: give that, like he's going for four downs. They looked
Speaker 1: like an offense. They didn't look like terrible that maybe
Speaker 1: they could put up points. Alright, four more games, let's
Speaker 1: let's eight o'clock this. Oh no, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Disrespect Cincinnati Bengals at Chicago Bears. Mark, give me something
Speaker 1: you're looking for in this game. I'm looking for essentially
Speaker 1: completely off guard. I was doing something else entirely. I'm
Speaker 1: looking for justin fields to play. I just I want
Speaker 1: to see it. I don't like this. This whole scenario
Speaker 1: to me is tiresome and and I'm looking for that.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking for to see if Cincinnati is fun.
Speaker 1: They might be. I think they were very empressed. They
Speaker 1: changed last week play action, getting rid of the ball quickly.
Speaker 1: Totally different than a year ago. If anything, I think
Speaker 1: it was a little more boring, like run heavy, but
Speaker 1: it was they can run the ball again. They couldn't
Speaker 1: last Let's see if Joe Mexican stay healthy. But so far,
Speaker 1: so good. And I every year Week two when I
Speaker 1: go on NFL Now with Andrews Ciciliano, I have a standard.
Speaker 1: Hey Bengals fund now did it again on Tuesday. Hopefully
Speaker 1: it's sticks. Moving on in the Los Angeles Rams at
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, this is a good game. Look at Mark
Speaker 1: just pumped us fist. Take two. Here we are in
Speaker 1: the Rams stadium slash office buildings, and I have a
Speaker 1: one goal. I just determined this is not the Rams
Speaker 1: office building, but well, I am determined to be friends
Speaker 1: with Matthew Stafford. On some level, I know that he's
Speaker 1: not here all the time. The wife of Leverkara Henderson Sneed,
Speaker 1: actually came at me on Twitter and said, you absolutely
Speaker 1: will not become friends with Matthew Stafford because you've not
Speaker 1: even picked our team to win the division. So this
Speaker 1: is a piece off bread and she doesn't even know
Speaker 1: the extent of your hatred. Well, I don't need you
Speaker 1: to verbalize, because this is this is a new day.
Speaker 1: I am part of this classic mark though. She came
Speaker 1: at him, and she and he he immediately I've learned.
Speaker 1: He's like I've learned, and I've changed. Terrible reporting, terrible reporting,
Speaker 1: terrible reporting. Go read the entire thread. I I did
Speaker 1: not back down, and I'm telling you something. I'm locking
Speaker 1: up the Rams right here and that and you know what, um,
Speaker 1: I see it, and he's got a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: to work on. I did not like what I saw
Speaker 1: from the Cults, and I don't think they're dead in
Speaker 1: the water, but I think they got work to do
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. And the Rams, man,
Speaker 1: they look good. The Colts are like Rams. They've got
Speaker 1: like a quarterback that can't really do the entire offense,
Speaker 1: and it's condensed and not very exciting. The Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Raiders at Pittsburgh Steeler is good for Shookie. He's got
Speaker 1: some good games here. Greg, What do you think about this? Uh?
Speaker 1: Either I think I should have drafted this saying is
Speaker 1: what I think. I think Melvin Ingram is gonna make
Speaker 1: and has made already such a difference. Their pass rush
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh is somehow better this year. I think with him,
Speaker 1: Highsmith and Watt is probably the best trio in the
Speaker 1: entire league, and that could be a problem. The Raiders
Speaker 1: lost another offensive lineman good for the entire year. It's
Speaker 1: torn a c O brutal. Finally, Denver at Jacksonville. I
Speaker 1: wanted to lock this game up, but I thought you
Speaker 1: guys might give me some great It's a little I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a little early to just assume the Broncos are
Speaker 1: a jugg or not, even though I guess you guys
Speaker 1: believe that the other side. Though, no, this is about
Speaker 1: that other side. I didn't do it. In the end,
Speaker 1: um Vic Fangio runs a very similar defense, but better
Speaker 1: in the studio than Love it does in Houston, where
Speaker 1: they can just back up and mix coverages. Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: the one one. I do want to say one thing
Speaker 1: was just like every throw he made was either amazing
Speaker 1: or terrible, but there were a lot of amazing throws.
Speaker 1: Might be a Peyton Manning night, but you maybe shouldn't
Speaker 1: get lost in the mix. He was only hit or
Speaker 1: a sacked one time last week. It's going to be
Speaker 1: a different story here in Fongio. Last week, if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly went forward on fourth down three times, so
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more fourth than seven like on
Speaker 1: the first drive of the game. That's how you show
Speaker 1: Teddy two gloves. You believe in him. That's how you did.
Speaker 1: What a nice set up for Teddy two glows. By
Speaker 1: the way, that's what I was talking. You got Giants,
Speaker 1: you know, who are poop potentially, and then you got
Speaker 1: this team, the Jaguars, which might be the worst team
Speaker 1: in football. We'll see your number one receiver in Jerry
Speaker 1: Judy Cortland. Sutton doesn't look quite all the way back.
Speaker 1: You also lost a starting corner. But that's a nice start,
Speaker 1: and I did look. I looked at their schedule. It
Speaker 1: tightens up considerably, as it should um in the weeks ahead.
Speaker 1: But get off to two and our start. I love
Speaker 1: this wild card team of T H J O. We
Speaker 1: need like a song, you need to workshout that. I
Speaker 1: think you've gotten a song that that was a finished
Speaker 1: product there anybody, you know, those speed round teams don't
Speaker 1: get upset. It's it's just a product of So we
Speaker 1: can't stay here all day and there will be buys
Speaker 1: and you're everyone's gonna get their um proper conversation points
Speaker 1: come Sunday night, the flagship program when we recap each
Speaker 1: and every one of these games. No speed rounds there.
Speaker 1: We also might not go twenty minutes off the top,
Speaker 1: you know, talking about our anxieties, and I mean we
Speaker 1: normally we've done about this has been about an hour
Speaker 1: and forty minutes of work today. That's as much work
Speaker 1: as I need to do on any day, that's true.
Speaker 1: And how do you feel, Mark, now that we've been
Speaker 1: here for you know, a couple hours and it already
Speaker 1: feels like we're settling in. How do you feel it's
Speaker 1: growing on me? I have one issue that my front
Speaker 1: left highre um is essentially flat. It's in the garage,
Speaker 1: but my front left hire is sort of it looks
Speaker 1: dangerously at the A light came on and it is empty.
Speaker 1: So here No, I'll just be staying here until tomorrows
Speaker 1: show our network show tomorrow show the Around the NFL
Speaker 1: broadcast where we break down every team. We give the
Speaker 1: true Around the NFL um Moniker. We're really true to
Speaker 1: it because we hit all thirty two teams. So that's
Speaker 1: another way. If you didn't like I didn't get my
Speaker 1: team got overlooked in the preview episode, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be here anymore, then check out the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL broadcast because you get two and a half minutes
Speaker 1: on every single every team gets equal time. It was
Speaker 1: fun that first week. I like to studio again. Does
Speaker 1: this was fun? Thank you again to everyone behind the
Speaker 1: glass for all the work. Um Erica as our leader.
Speaker 1: There's Stapleton the Giants fence. He's waving her arm. Everybody's
Speaker 1: excited to really be back to work together. Uh and
Speaker 1: we will be back with you yes Friday, Sunday and
Speaker 1: the Wheel it's starting. It's been it Mark, Here we go,
Speaker 1: Baby Dan Hands signing off a quiet storm. The old
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