WEBVTT - I Smell Pop Culture: Felicity 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:04.120 I Am all In Again. 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:12.280 Oh that's just you. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.160 I Smell pop Culture with Easton Allen and I Heart 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.759 Radio podcast. Hey, everybody, my name's Easton Allen. You just 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:26.400 heard Scott Patterson say my name. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:26.800 That's right. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.200 Scott's voice said it. That wasn't manufacturer, that wasn't an edit. 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:34.239 He actually said my name. This is I Smell pop Culture. 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:38.120 We are a subsidiary. We are a spin off. We 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.160 are in the feed of I Am all In Again 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.880 and I Heart Radio Podcast one eleven productions. I Heart Radio, 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.960 I Heart Media, I Hurt Podcasts. We're doing something so 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.080 exciting here on this show. So you're here because you'll 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.360 love Gilmore Girls, right, we all love Gilmore Girls. We 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:56.000 want to live in stars Hollow, We want to hang 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.720 out with Rory and Lourlai. You are here because you 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.639 love of the pop culture references in Gilmour Girls. That's 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.800 why I'm here. I love it too. I have been knighted. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:10.360 I have been appointed by Scott Patterson to go deeper 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.560 than just listing off the pop culture references. No, no, no, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.000 We're going to talk to the people that created them, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.400 that are behind them, that are these pop culture moments 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:23.560 and this week, We're going to another part of the 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:24.720 WB verse. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.480 This is a show called Felicity. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:30.840 Some of you might be Felicity fans, some of you 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.360 may not have ever seen it. It is streaming on Hulu. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.800 You can watch Felicity now, but it was referenced in 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.840 season three, episode twenty one, Here Comes the Sun. Okay, 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.119 get ready for this reference. Lorela and Paris are selling 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.360 tickets to Chilton's grad night. No one's really coming to 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.000 buy it, no one's biting so that they're kind of bored. 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:55.000 So Paris suggests that Lurlai unbuttons her top to get 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.000 more attention, and Laurela changes the subject quickly and wants 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.920 to talk about where Paris is going to go to college. 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.520 Paris says it's between Princeton, Columbia, and Yale, and she 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.880 says Princeton's a good school, but Jamie goes there, and 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.079 if I go there, it looks like I went there 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.080 just to be with him. Suddenly in Felicity without the 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:16.560 hair issues. So Felicity and Gilmargirls were both shows on 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.360 the w W WWWB in the early two thousands. They 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.359 were kind of like Felicity was on its way out 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:28.320 as Gilmergirls was starting, Felicity ended in two thousand and two, 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.239 and Gilmergirl's premiered in two thousand of course, so a 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.919 couple of years of overlap, but they share a lot 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:41.560 of similarities here. They have many multiversal connections. The actress 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.640 who plays our beloved laying Keiko Gina. She's in Felicity 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:50.320 as well as Gilmore Girls, and Felicity is about a 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:54.200 young woman following her boyfriend from Palo Alto California, northern 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.160 California to New York City to go to a fictional 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:04.320 on New York University. Similar themes to Gilmore Girls. Uh uh, 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.800 Felicity a bit more, a bit more dramatic, heavier, heavier stuff, 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.959 but very similar themes otherwise. So what we're going to 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.440 do this week, We're going to talk to one of 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.320 our favorite characters from Felicity. We're going to talk to 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:24.840 Greg Grunberg. He played Sean. He's Sean's the friend on Felicity. 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.440 He was like, he did not go to college with them. 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.680 He was an older guy who like lived off campus, 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.240 and he was kind of their goofy friend who always 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.440 had an idea for an invention. He had all these 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.920 like entrepreneurial ideas. These different businesses like, uh, we'll talk 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.120 about this with Greg, but things like flavored pen caps, 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.600 bagel knobs those are bagel like donut holes injected with 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.120 cream cheese and locks. Really cool stuff like that. But 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.280 here's the thing about Greg Grunberg. He's a major part 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.360 of Felicity. He hosts a Felicity podcast called Dear Felicity. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.400 He went back and we watched all the episodes. This 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:07.040 guy has been in everything everything. He is a childhood 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:11.080 friend of jj Abrams and they are longtime collaborators. I mean, 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:18.240 Greg has been in Heroes, Alias, Lost, Mission Impossible, Three, 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.840 Star Wars, Star Trek. How many people can say they've 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.159 been in Star Wars and Star Trek. I mean, come on, 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:26.880 this guy has so much cool stuff on his resume. 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.400 He's the coolest dude in the world, and we're gonna 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.080 get to know him. He's here now, Greg Grumberg, thank 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:34.000 you so much for doing this. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:34.279 Man. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.520 We are so excited. Were such big fans. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.520 Dude, Are you kidding me? Come on, I'm a huge 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.600 fan of Gilmore girl, That's not true at all. I'm 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.000 I'm a fan. I'm a fan of everything that Gilmore 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.560 Girls represented. You know, I was like around when all 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.240 of that happened. Obviously, I'm working I worked with Myleo 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.240 Vntimilia for years. He's won a dear friend of mine. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.880 And you know, I have my own podcast, Felicity Podcast 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.680 that we do. So this is like when you guys asked, 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.760 I'm like, of course, let's talk that time was so 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:08.360 important in my career, to my family, to everything. And 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.799 you know, it's interesting what we've found on our podcast 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.119 is talking to everybody that was involved in the show. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.400 It like you like we were talking about before we 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.800 went on the air, It's so little about the show, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.960 more about what that show represented, you know exactly. 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.600 Yes, you guys like Felicity and Gilmore Girls kind of 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:29.840 almost like ships. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:30.559 In the night on the WB. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.400 I mean like, yeah, you guys ended in two thousand 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.159 and two, Gilmore Girl's premiere in two thousand, so it 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.640 was a bit of overlap. I mean, do you remember 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.640 did you guys get compared a lot during this couple 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:41.680 of years you were both on the air. 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:42.320 Do you remember that? 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:42.880 Yeah? 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.000 I mean this was back when networks had more of 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.039 an identity. They really knew what they wanted to be 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.520 you know, Fox was doing this crazy kind of like 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.440 not experimental stuff, but even their comedy stuff was just 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.839 out there, and you know, the animation and all that stuff, 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.800 and the WB, you know, which then became the CW Right, 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.080 the WB was it was that teen Angst, It was 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:10.320 Dawson's Creek. It was us and Buffy and and Gilmore Girls, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.400 and like you know, like JJ often joked and we 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.839 would joke, we'd be like, you know, if if Ben 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:17.800 was a werewolf, maybe we would have gotten a couple 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.040 more years. You know, it's just because they but Gilmore 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.799 Girls was the one thing that they all had in common. 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:27.360 And I didn't watch all of them, but I know 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.920 Gilmore Girls had it just quality from top down. Man. 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.440 It's like because people are watching it now and loving 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.400 it just as much, and if it stands at esta 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.160 time and you go, you know, you watch stuff from whatever. 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.480 When I was a kid, I'll watch things and and 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.520 I just go, I just didn't hold it doesn't hold up. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:44.680 You know. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.200 I try to try to get my boys, you know, 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.080 I have kids your age, and it's like I'm like, hey, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.039 you guys got to watch this, and they're like, nah, 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.719 it's just you know, they just don't like it's a 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.400 different time, Dad, But Gilmore Girls holds up, Felicity holds up, 0:06:58.520 --> 0:06:59.440 Dawson's holds up. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.960 It's you know, it's interesting, it is and we're so 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.880 fortunate as an audience still like have these shows that 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.320 are such high quality and that the actors and everyone 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:10.200 cares so much about. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:12.400 We're just grateful for it. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:13.800 So the. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.760 Gilmaco's has a lot of cultural pop culture reference and 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.640 it references in the show, and the Felicity was mentioned. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.320 You know, in season three, episode twenty one, these two 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.480 characters are talking about what college when I was going 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.080 to go to and she says, well, I can't go 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.120 to Princeton because my boyfriend's going there, and if I 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:34.760 go there, that looks like I'm following him, and then 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:39.560 I'll be Felicity without the hair issues. So we got 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.200 to talk about the haircut. We got to talk about 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:42.160 the Felicity haircut. 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:43.000 Yeah, for sure. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:43.840 I mean. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:50.000 Take us back to the season two Carrie Russell cuts 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.280 her hair. Yeah, it was this huge moment I don't 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.520 want to say scandal, but like a huge moment everyone 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.760 was talking about. Every show you just listed how to 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.880 reference that haircut. Buffy, One Tree Hill, Sabrina Teenage, which 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.920 they all talked about the haircut. What do you remember 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:03.640 from that time? 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.040 I just I remember. You know, it's interesting because looking back, 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:08.880 I look at it like, oh, they were just trying 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.240 to blame the ratings dip. Every show comes out of 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.920 the you know, Heroes. I was on this massive show Heroes, right, 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.400 and then it's like, all of a sudden, there's a 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.400 dive and you go, well, the show is all about discovery. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.440 Every show is about discovery. The audience is discovering the characters. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.640 The characters are discovering who they are if they're well 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:30.320 written and evolving. And then to keep that discovery up 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.880 so that season two you've got, you know, more to 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.360 discover and more to talk about. Water Cooler back then, 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:37.880 you know, it was water Cooler. Back then you had 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.520 to wait till next week to see the episodes, you know, 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.680 and also commenting on a show back then was a 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.679 lot different. I mean, I guess it's the same now 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.920 in it insofar as like you know, like Ted Lasso 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.200 is shooting right now, and on social media you see 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.920 people out there window they're watching in that alley where 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.920 he walks, and people like, oh, they're backshooting and look, 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.800 and so you can comment about the story and maybe 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.199 the show runner will see it. Back then, if you 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.440 commented on a on an episode, it's like, dude, we 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.000 shot that six months ago, Like what are we supposed 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.120 to do about it now? You know? So when the 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.880 Haircut thing happened, first of all, everybody was looking for 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.319 it was like the blame game, like, oh, Carrie did this, 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.440 and we've talked about it, you know with Carrie on 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.200 the show, we've talked about you know. Uh, it's you know, 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.280 Dear Felicity, by the way, is the is the podcast 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.920 If people haven't checked it out, it's we're we're done 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.080 with it and we absolutely love doing it. I don't 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:31.800 know if we're going to get a second season, but man, 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.920 it was so much fun. And because on Felicity, Dear 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.160 Sally was how they started every episode talking into a 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:42.080 tape recorder and and uh so, but but we talked. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.319 We've talked to everybody. We talked to JJ and Matt, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.400 we talked to Carrie, we talked to hair and may Cut. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.440 We talked to everybody, and so what I ended up 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.240 happening is the truth about it is that Carrie was 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.000 on a photo shoot and I might be butchering this, 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.400 but carry was on a photo shoot, and even back then, 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.400 they could sort of show you what you would look like. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.439 They could do a and say, oh, look this is 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.960 what you look like. We're short hair. And so she 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.400 saw that and they were like, oh, that's kind of crazy, 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.439 and she sent it to JJ as a joke and said, 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.000 I cut my hair, cut my hair. And he's like what, because, 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.280 by the way, let's just talk about forgetting all that 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.640 and I'll explain the rest of it. But like, what 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.160 did you think, because like everybody's got their own opinion. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.120 I like your hair. Okay, let's not talk about hair. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.120 I can't even show you my head right now because 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.520 I shaved it for a movie. And is this video 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:31.720 too or audio only? 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.559 It's audio only, but we'll paint a picture. Greg has 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.280 this beautiful pork pie hat on and then he's lifting 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.480 it up to reveal a bald head. I want mince 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:41.800 words here, you're here, it's. 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:45.000 A bald head. It's for it's for a movie, of course, 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.880 is JJ abrams and I can't talk about it and 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.559 it's exciting. That's all all of his things that yeah, yeah, 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:55.600 it's super super cool but so but but I ask 0:10:55.760 --> 0:11:00.240 you because people watch that show and they said, Okay, 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:04.480 here's a girl from you know, she's she's from northern 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.040 California and then she's going cross country to the jungles 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.240 of New York and it's the city's gonna eat her 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.960 alive and all this stuff. And then she finds her 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.720 footing and now she's getting and you know, it's season two, 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.280 so now she's been there and she's got it going 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.559 through a breakup and blah blah blah, I'm independent. Whatever 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.240 it works. It totally works for a girl to like 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.880 rediscover either that or she's gone crazy because people like, well, 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.840 buzz their hair or do something if they're kind of 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.200 they're in need of it, just a whole new you know, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.040 life lift or whatever. But people went out of their 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.720 freaking minds and people went nuts, and you know, and 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.480 also the ratings, you know, weren't as strong, so they 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.160 blamed the haircut, which is so not true. And every 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.240 show goes through a little bit of a dip. But 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.880 it gave us a ton of publicity. People were buzzing 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.240 about it, they were talking about it. We were able 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.600 to do oh so, so so let me get back. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:57.040 So she did. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.600 I'm not even letting you answer, sorry, but she did. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.959 She did send that photo JJ and his wife Katie, 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.560 Katie CEO of Bad Robot, and you know, JJ's wife 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.520 and the greatest on the planet's so smart. JJ then 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.040 sent it to the WB and first of all, he 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.480 freaked out and she was like, I'm just kidding. I'm 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:15.840 at a photo shoot, and he was like, wait a minute, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.680 this looks pretty cool. Sent it to a ton of people, 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.280 I mean, dude, eight, like a ton of people to 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:26.360 say how crazy is this? And they were all like, 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.160 it's crazy, but it's kind of cool. So it wasn't 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.040 like a you know, somebody did it. And because we're 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.880 a contractually bound to stay looking the way we are, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.680 you know I'm doing it. There's the trailer of a 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.640 new show that I'm doing, also a JJ show, a 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.160 Bad Robot show called. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.880 Duster Duster coming May fifteenth one Max. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.080 Yes, May fifteenth on Max. And I've got like my 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.160 hair in that is big and puffy at six it's 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.440 nineteen seventy one and like I'm like, okay, so I 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.200 you know, I grew my hair out and the whole thing. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:12:59.599 But we've been working on that show for two and 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.680 a half years. Now this movie comes up, and so 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.480 I'm like, what am I gonna jj I goes, We'll 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.360 get your wig. You know, you could do anything these 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.200 days whatever. So that's uh, But we were able to 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.120 on Felicity. They were able to then put a wig 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.000 on her, like they cut her hair. Then they did 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.280 a flat pack over. You know, they make it work, 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:21.360 but they chose to do She did it, and she 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:27.200 lost her I think visually she lost her innocence, but 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.160 as a character, she was losing her innocence and gaining 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:34.800 her independence. And it's it was just so good. Now, 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:36.680 and now you tell me what you think. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:38.360 I completely agree with you. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:43.360 I think that it's because this show follows someone's life, 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.120 it's got to show growth, it's got to show her journey. 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.160 And I think that was such a great way visually 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.600 to depict that. And I thought it was such a 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.160 I don't know, I like changing someone's hair. I think 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:59.000 is such a simple way to initiate that kind of change. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:00.920 I thought it was great. I thought she looked great. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.080 First of all, Oh, she cannot look bad. 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.440 Yeah, I mean, it's impossible for her, you know, she 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.199 could have like she could have shaved her head like 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.040 you have right now, and she so want to look good. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:10.720 It was also looked as good as I do. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:15.760 Though yes, let's yeah, let's be honest here. But it's 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.800 so interesting to me how big of a thing it was. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.760 Like I was telling my wife this morning, I'm like, oh, 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.000 I'm talking to Greg Grumberg from Felicity, and she's like 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.280 that you got ask hi about that haircut. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.520 I was like, the two things I get, I get 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.920 haircut and smooth A's two things. Again, I'm like, you know, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.120 my character was it was this inventor and for these 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.280 I'm just I'm laying this out for people that don't 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.640 know the show. But you know, every week I was like, 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:40.320 what about this? 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:40.960 And what about this? 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.120 And what about this? And it was really funny to 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.600 see these stupid ideas. Some of them actually have become 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:50.080 real ideas in our lives. But smooth A's really struck 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.400 a chord and the haircut really struck a chord. Like 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.040 there are so when I because I had to rewatch 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.600 the show and now, by the way, I'm going to 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.800 watch Gilmar Girls because my wife absolutely loves it. And 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:06.440 my boys, their girlfriends love the show. And so my 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.040 son has watched it because his girlfriend watched it, and 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.960 my other boys have anyway, but rewatching and we touched 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:14.320 on it a little bit. You know, they stand the 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.120 test of time. But rewatching it just it shows you 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.760 and and it speaks to how great the writing is. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.280 It's all about the writing and Matt and JJ and 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.720 that the entire you know, uh, everyone that was involved. 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:34.040 They just captured the essence of what it's like to 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:35.760 be a you know, a college student, but not more 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:39.040 than that, just the family dynamic and expectations your parents 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.080 have and the disappointment and you find out your parents 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.920 are not perfect and very imperfect and all of that. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.920 And then it's so relatable to everybody else. So it 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.160 wasn't like, you know, I don't feelmore girls. Certainly was 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.920 not a young, you know, kids show. I mean, it 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:59.520 was just so widely watched, felicity widely watched, you know, 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:04.040 and and the main thing I get and I wonder 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.720 if this was like this for your wife. But again, 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.320 you guys are so young. But like when she was 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.000 people say, oh, you know, I watched this with my mom. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.520 I was at way at school and this was a 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.600 way for her. We bonded over it and that, dude, 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.960 I'm the luckiest guy in the world. From Felicity to 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.760 Alias Lost Heroes, all these things. When people star Wars 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.720 people tell me, like military people, they'll be like, I was, dude, 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.440 I was stuck in a fox hole, or I was, 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.640 you know, on the base and just waiting for our 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.520 orders and I watched your show and you got me through. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.080 Or even NBA players they'll be like, dude, I'm on 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.200 the I'm on the plane, I'm on the bus. I 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:42.840 watched every episode. It's so unbelievable. We're in some stupid 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.600 studio somewhere, you know, talking to each other, going hey, 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.840 and I talked to you for a second. That's every 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.680 scene on our show started that way. And we were 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.880 just loving each other, loving the opportunity and to know 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.120 that people actually watch the show. It's ridiculous. 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.560 What a special thing to have. I just I love 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.960 hearing those kind of things like it's it's it's incredible. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.080 I mean, like you said, you're making this show. You 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:07.480 don't know really how it's going to be received, what 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.760 it's going to be, but it's just such an important 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.120 place for people, and they continue to revisit. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:13.680 It's it's somewhere to Gilmore Girls that way. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.160 Like I know so many people that like rewatch Felicity 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.119 every year or rewatch it, you know, just on a 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.480 loop almost, or like they fall asleep watching it. 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.920 Or drinking games every time someone says hey, every time 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.400 someone says hey, you drink, I mean you're drunk in 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.639 the after the first act of event. Yeah, I agree 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.880 with you. It's just it's a it's a very very 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.960 special thing. It's hard to compare it to something else. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.359 I don't know, it's you know, and I've been like 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.000 I said, it's been so lucky over and over again, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.199 you know, uh, to have been a part of all 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.800 this stuff. And now you know, like they we did 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.600 a reunion at the festival, the TV festival, and then 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.159 you know they're always asking it. Do you want to 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:59.280 do a where are they now? I'll give you a scoop, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:04.000 very big scoop we're gonna be doing. It looks like 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.560 a Felicity reading of an episode that never aired, and 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.439 it's never aired because it was just written. Somebody wrote 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.119 a really I'm not gonna tell you what it is, 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.240 but it's Felicity and all the Felicity characters and we're 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.240 gonna be reading it for charity over zoom. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:18.160 Oh my god. 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.960 Yeah, And it's really cool and we're just locking in 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.200 scheduling with everybody. But I just talked to Amy Joe 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.359 and you know, by the way, I stayed friends with 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.840 all these people, and I had Robbie, Benedict and I 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.560 just had breakfast and Mandy of course, Amanda, you know 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.639 Mandy who was my love interest and she was the 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:37.400 greatest I love. She's my favorite character on the show, Megan. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:43.040 She uh, the three of us, Rob, Benedict and Mandy 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:44.560 and I we just had breakfast and we were like, 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.879 it's gonna be fun. And they're like, yeah, so it's happening. 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.320 There's the thing. You'll hear more about it. Follow me 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:53.440 on you know, on Instagram or or on x and 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.359 and you know, with all the details that come out, 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:56.760 but it's gonna be It's really really cool. 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.320 That's awesome. And Amy jo Johnson being in the show too. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.320 I mean, like I was such a big fan of 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.199 the Pink Ranger and then seeing like like I was 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.360 so excited to see her grow in her career too, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.639 Like like you know, she's not just the Pink Ranger. 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.400 She's doing this incredible dramatic role. 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.560 Yeah, as frustrating as actors get in certain roles like 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.200 oh I'm just the Pink Power Ranger or whatever. Yeah, 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.280 if you have the goods and if you have the size, 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.040 you know, the big shoes to fill, when you and 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:27.600 that door opens and step through it, it's I think 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.080 it's incredible transformation. I think it's like, like I told, 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.320 I'm like, I want I want this to be this 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.399 is my look, Like I love this. I want to 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.520 like start doing roles like this, like you know, this 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.320 is great, And that's just it's just that getting back 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.959