1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I Am all In Again. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Oh that's just you. 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: I Smell pop Culture with Easton Allen and I Heart 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: Radio podcast. Hey, everybody, my name's Easton Allen. You just 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: heard Scott Patterson say my name. 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: That's right. 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: Scott's voice said it. That wasn't manufacturer, that wasn't an edit. 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: He actually said my name. This is I Smell pop Culture. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: We are a subsidiary. We are a spin off. We 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: are in the feed of I Am all In Again 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: and I Heart Radio Podcast one eleven productions. I Heart Radio, 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: I Heart Media, I Hurt Podcasts. We're doing something so 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: exciting here on this show. So you're here because you'll 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: love Gilmore Girls, right, we all love Gilmore Girls. We 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: want to live in stars Hollow, We want to hang 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: out with Rory and Lourlai. You are here because you 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 3: love of the pop culture references in Gilmour Girls. That's 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: why I'm here. I love it too. I have been knighted. 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: I have been appointed by Scott Patterson to go deeper 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: than just listing off the pop culture references. No, no, no, 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: We're going to talk to the people that created them, 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: that are behind them, that are these pop culture moments 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: and this week, We're going to another part of the 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: WB verse. 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: This is a show called Felicity. 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: Some of you might be Felicity fans, some of you 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: may not have ever seen it. It is streaming on Hulu. 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: You can watch Felicity now, but it was referenced in 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: season three, episode twenty one, Here Comes the Sun. Okay, 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: get ready for this reference. Lorela and Paris are selling 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: tickets to Chilton's grad night. No one's really coming to 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: buy it, no one's biting so that they're kind of bored. 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: So Paris suggests that Lurlai unbuttons her top to get 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: more attention, and Laurela changes the subject quickly and wants 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: to talk about where Paris is going to go to college. 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: Paris says it's between Princeton, Columbia, and Yale, and she 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: says Princeton's a good school, but Jamie goes there, and 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: if I go there, it looks like I went there 39 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: just to be with him. Suddenly in Felicity without the 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: hair issues. So Felicity and Gilmargirls were both shows on 41 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: the w W WWWB in the early two thousands. They 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 3: were kind of like Felicity was on its way out 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: as Gilmergirls was starting, Felicity ended in two thousand and two, 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 3: and Gilmergirl's premiered in two thousand of course, so a 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: couple of years of overlap, but they share a lot 46 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: of similarities here. They have many multiversal connections. The actress 47 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: who plays our beloved laying Keiko Gina. She's in Felicity 48 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: as well as Gilmore Girls, and Felicity is about a 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: young woman following her boyfriend from Palo Alto California, northern 50 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: California to New York City to go to a fictional 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: on New York University. Similar themes to Gilmore Girls. Uh uh, 52 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: Felicity a bit more, a bit more dramatic, heavier, heavier stuff, 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 3: but very similar themes otherwise. So what we're going to 54 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: do this week, We're going to talk to one of 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: our favorite characters from Felicity. We're going to talk to 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: Greg Grunberg. He played Sean. He's Sean's the friend on Felicity. 57 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: He was like, he did not go to college with them. 58 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: He was an older guy who like lived off campus, 59 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: and he was kind of their goofy friend who always 60 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: had an idea for an invention. He had all these 61 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: like entrepreneurial ideas. These different businesses like, uh, we'll talk 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: about this with Greg, but things like flavored pen caps, 63 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: bagel knobs those are bagel like donut holes injected with 64 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: cream cheese and locks. Really cool stuff like that. But 65 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: here's the thing about Greg Grunberg. He's a major part 66 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: of Felicity. He hosts a Felicity podcast called Dear Felicity. 67 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: He went back and we watched all the episodes. This 68 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: guy has been in everything everything. He is a childhood 69 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: friend of jj Abrams and they are longtime collaborators. I mean, 70 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: Greg has been in Heroes, Alias, Lost, Mission Impossible, Three, 71 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: Star Wars, Star Trek. How many people can say they've 72 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: been in Star Wars and Star Trek. I mean, come on, 73 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: this guy has so much cool stuff on his resume. 74 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: He's the coolest dude in the world, and we're gonna 75 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: get to know him. He's here now, Greg Grumberg, thank 76 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: you so much for doing this. 77 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 4: Man. 78 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: We are so excited. Were such big fans. 79 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Dude, Are you kidding me? Come on, I'm a huge 80 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: fan of Gilmore girl, That's not true at all. I'm 81 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm a fan. I'm a fan of everything that Gilmore 82 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Girls represented. You know, I was like around when all 83 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: of that happened. Obviously, I'm working I worked with Myleo 84 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: Vntimilia for years. He's won a dear friend of mine. 85 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: And you know, I have my own podcast, Felicity Podcast 86 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: that we do. So this is like when you guys asked, 87 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, of course, let's talk that time was so 88 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: important in my career, to my family, to everything. And 89 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting what we've found on our podcast 90 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 2: is talking to everybody that was involved in the show. 91 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: It like you like we were talking about before we 92 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: went on the air, It's so little about the show, 93 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: more about what that show represented, you know exactly. 94 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: Yes, you guys like Felicity and Gilmore Girls kind of 95 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: almost like ships. 96 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: In the night on the WB. 97 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: I mean like, yeah, you guys ended in two thousand 98 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: and two, Gilmore Girl's premiere in two thousand, so it 99 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: was a bit of overlap. I mean, do you remember 100 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: did you guys get compared a lot during this couple 101 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: of years you were both on the air. 102 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? 103 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: I mean this was back when networks had more of 105 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: an identity. They really knew what they wanted to be 106 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: you know, Fox was doing this crazy kind of like 107 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: not experimental stuff, but even their comedy stuff was just 108 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: out there, and you know, the animation and all that stuff, 109 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: and the WB, you know, which then became the CW Right, 110 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: the WB was it was that teen Angst, It was 111 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: Dawson's Creek. It was us and Buffy and and Gilmore Girls, 112 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: and like you know, like JJ often joked and we 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: would joke, we'd be like, you know, if if Ben 114 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: was a werewolf, maybe we would have gotten a couple 115 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: more years. You know, it's just because they but Gilmore 116 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 2: Girls was the one thing that they all had in common. 117 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: And I didn't watch all of them, but I know 118 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls had it just quality from top down. Man. 119 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: It's like because people are watching it now and loving 120 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: it just as much, and if it stands at esta 121 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: time and you go, you know, you watch stuff from whatever. 122 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I'll watch things and and 123 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: I just go, I just didn't hold it doesn't hold up. 124 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: You know. 125 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: I try to try to get my boys, you know, 126 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: I have kids your age, and it's like I'm like, hey, 127 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: you guys got to watch this, and they're like, nah, 128 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: it's just you know, they just don't like it's a 129 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: different time, Dad, But Gilmore Girls holds up, Felicity holds up, 130 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: Dawson's holds up. 131 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: It's you know, it's interesting, it is and we're so 132 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: fortunate as an audience still like have these shows that 133 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: are such high quality and that the actors and everyone 134 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: cares so much about. 135 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: We're just grateful for it. 136 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: So the. 137 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: Gilmaco's has a lot of cultural pop culture reference and 138 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: it references in the show, and the Felicity was mentioned. 139 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: You know, in season three, episode twenty one, these two 140 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: characters are talking about what college when I was going 141 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: to go to and she says, well, I can't go 142 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: to Princeton because my boyfriend's going there, and if I 143 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: go there, that looks like I'm following him, and then 144 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: I'll be Felicity without the hair issues. So we got 145 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: to talk about the haircut. We got to talk about 146 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: the Felicity haircut. 147 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 148 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: I mean. 149 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: Take us back to the season two Carrie Russell cuts 150 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: her hair. Yeah, it was this huge moment I don't 151 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: want to say scandal, but like a huge moment everyone 152 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: was talking about. Every show you just listed how to 153 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: reference that haircut. Buffy, One Tree Hill, Sabrina Teenage, which 154 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: they all talked about the haircut. What do you remember 155 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: from that time? 156 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: I just I remember. You know, it's interesting because looking back, 157 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: I look at it like, oh, they were just trying 158 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: to blame the ratings dip. Every show comes out of 159 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: the you know, Heroes. I was on this massive show Heroes, right, 160 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: and then it's like, all of a sudden, there's a 161 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: dive and you go, well, the show is all about discovery. 162 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: Every show is about discovery. The audience is discovering the characters. 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: The characters are discovering who they are if they're well 164 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: written and evolving. And then to keep that discovery up 165 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: so that season two you've got, you know, more to 166 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: discover and more to talk about. Water Cooler back then, 167 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: you know, it was water Cooler. Back then you had 168 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: to wait till next week to see the episodes, you know, 169 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: and also commenting on a show back then was a 170 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: lot different. I mean, I guess it's the same now 171 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: in it insofar as like you know, like Ted Lasso 172 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: is shooting right now, and on social media you see 173 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: people out there window they're watching in that alley where 174 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: he walks, and people like, oh, they're backshooting and look, 175 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: and so you can comment about the story and maybe 176 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: the show runner will see it. Back then, if you 177 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: commented on a on an episode, it's like, dude, we 178 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: shot that six months ago, Like what are we supposed 179 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: to do about it now? You know? So when the 180 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: Haircut thing happened, first of all, everybody was looking for 181 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: it was like the blame game, like, oh, Carrie did this, 182 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: and we've talked about it, you know with Carrie on 183 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: the show, we've talked about you know. Uh, it's you know, 184 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: Dear Felicity, by the way, is the is the podcast 185 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: If people haven't checked it out, it's we're we're done 186 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: with it and we absolutely love doing it. I don't 187 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: know if we're going to get a second season, but man, 188 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: it was so much fun. And because on Felicity, Dear 189 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: Sally was how they started every episode talking into a 190 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: tape recorder and and uh so, but but we talked. 191 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: We've talked to everybody. We talked to JJ and Matt, 192 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: we talked to Carrie, we talked to hair and may Cut. 193 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: We talked to everybody, and so what I ended up 194 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: happening is the truth about it is that Carrie was 195 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: on a photo shoot and I might be butchering this, 196 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: but carry was on a photo shoot, and even back then, 197 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: they could sort of show you what you would look like. 198 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: They could do a and say, oh, look this is 199 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: what you look like. We're short hair. And so she 200 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: saw that and they were like, oh, that's kind of crazy, 201 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: and she sent it to JJ as a joke and said, 202 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: I cut my hair, cut my hair. And he's like what, because, 203 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: by the way, let's just talk about forgetting all that 204 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: and I'll explain the rest of it. But like, what 205 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: did you think, because like everybody's got their own opinion. 206 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: I like your hair. Okay, let's not talk about hair. 207 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: I can't even show you my head right now because 208 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: I shaved it for a movie. And is this video 209 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: too or audio only? 210 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: It's audio only, but we'll paint a picture. Greg has 211 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: this beautiful pork pie hat on and then he's lifting 212 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: it up to reveal a bald head. I want mince 213 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: words here, you're here, it's. 214 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: A bald head. It's for it's for a movie, of course, 215 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: is JJ abrams and I can't talk about it and 216 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: it's exciting. That's all all of his things that yeah, yeah, 217 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: it's super super cool but so but but I ask 218 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: you because people watch that show and they said, Okay, 219 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: here's a girl from you know, she's she's from northern 220 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: California and then she's going cross country to the jungles 221 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: of New York and it's the city's gonna eat her 222 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: alive and all this stuff. And then she finds her 223 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: footing and now she's getting and you know, it's season two, 224 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: so now she's been there and she's got it going 225 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: through a breakup and blah blah blah, I'm independent. Whatever 226 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: it works. It totally works for a girl to like 227 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: rediscover either that or she's gone crazy because people like, well, 228 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: buzz their hair or do something if they're kind of 229 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: they're in need of it, just a whole new you know, 230 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: life lift or whatever. But people went out of their 231 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: freaking minds and people went nuts, and you know, and 232 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: also the ratings, you know, weren't as strong, so they 233 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: blamed the haircut, which is so not true. And every 234 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: show goes through a little bit of a dip. But 235 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: it gave us a ton of publicity. People were buzzing 236 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: about it, they were talking about it. We were able 237 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: to do oh so, so so let me get back. 238 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: So she did. 239 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm not even letting you answer, sorry, but she did. 240 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: She did send that photo JJ and his wife Katie, 241 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: Katie CEO of Bad Robot, and you know, JJ's wife 242 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: and the greatest on the planet's so smart. JJ then 243 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: sent it to the WB and first of all, he 244 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: freaked out and she was like, I'm just kidding. I'm 245 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: at a photo shoot, and he was like, wait a minute, 246 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: this looks pretty cool. Sent it to a ton of people, 247 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: I mean, dude, eight, like a ton of people to 248 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: say how crazy is this? And they were all like, 249 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: it's crazy, but it's kind of cool. So it wasn't 250 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: like a you know, somebody did it. And because we're 251 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: a contractually bound to stay looking the way we are, 252 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: you know I'm doing it. There's the trailer of a 253 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: new show that I'm doing, also a JJ show, a 254 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: Bad Robot show called. 255 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: Duster Duster coming May fifteenth one Max. 256 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: Yes, May fifteenth on Max. And I've got like my 257 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: hair in that is big and puffy at six it's 258 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one and like I'm like, okay, so I 259 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: you know, I grew my hair out and the whole thing. 260 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 2: But we've been working on that show for two and 261 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: a half years. Now this movie comes up, and so 262 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, what am I gonna jj I goes, We'll 263 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: get your wig. You know, you could do anything these 264 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: days whatever. So that's uh, But we were able to 265 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: on Felicity. They were able to then put a wig 266 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: on her, like they cut her hair. Then they did 267 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: a flat pack over. You know, they make it work, 268 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: but they chose to do She did it, and she 269 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: lost her I think visually she lost her innocence, but 270 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: as a character, she was losing her innocence and gaining 271 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: her independence. And it's it was just so good. Now, 272 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: and now you tell me what you think. 273 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. 274 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: I think that it's because this show follows someone's life, 275 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: it's got to show growth, it's got to show her journey. 276 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: And I think that was such a great way visually 277 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: to depict that. And I thought it was such a 278 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, I like changing someone's hair. I think 279 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: is such a simple way to initiate that kind of change. 280 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: I thought it was great. I thought she looked great. 281 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: First of all, Oh, she cannot look bad. 282 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's impossible for her, you know, she 283 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 3: could have like she could have shaved her head like 284 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: you have right now, and she so want to look good. 285 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: It was also looked as good as I do. 286 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: Though yes, let's yeah, let's be honest here. But it's 287 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: so interesting to me how big of a thing it was. 288 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: Like I was telling my wife this morning, I'm like, oh, 289 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: I'm talking to Greg Grumberg from Felicity, and she's like 290 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: that you got ask hi about that haircut. 291 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: I was like, the two things I get, I get 292 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: haircut and smooth A's two things. Again, I'm like, you know, 293 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: my character was it was this inventor and for these 294 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm laying this out for people that don't 295 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: know the show. But you know, every week I was like, 296 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: what about this? 297 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: And what about this? 298 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: And what about this? And it was really funny to 299 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: see these stupid ideas. Some of them actually have become 300 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: real ideas in our lives. But smooth A's really struck 301 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: a chord and the haircut really struck a chord. Like 302 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: there are so when I because I had to rewatch 303 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: the show and now, by the way, I'm going to 304 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: watch Gilmar Girls because my wife absolutely loves it. And 305 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: my boys, their girlfriends love the show. And so my 306 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: son has watched it because his girlfriend watched it, and 307 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: my other boys have anyway, but rewatching and we touched 308 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: on it a little bit. You know, they stand the 309 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: test of time. But rewatching it just it shows you 310 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: and and it speaks to how great the writing is. 311 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: It's all about the writing and Matt and JJ and 312 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: that the entire you know, uh, everyone that was involved. 313 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: They just captured the essence of what it's like to 314 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: be a you know, a college student, but not more 315 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: than that, just the family dynamic and expectations your parents 316 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: have and the disappointment and you find out your parents 317 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: are not perfect and very imperfect and all of that. 318 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: And then it's so relatable to everybody else. So it 319 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: wasn't like, you know, I don't feelmore girls. Certainly was 320 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: not a young, you know, kids show. I mean, it 321 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: was just so widely watched, felicity widely watched, you know, 322 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: and and the main thing I get and I wonder 323 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: if this was like this for your wife. But again, 324 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: you guys are so young. But like when she was 325 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: people say, oh, you know, I watched this with my mom. 326 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: I was at way at school and this was a 327 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: way for her. We bonded over it and that, dude, 328 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: I'm the luckiest guy in the world. From Felicity to 329 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: Alias Lost Heroes, all these things. When people star Wars 330 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: people tell me, like military people, they'll be like, I was, dude, 331 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: I was stuck in a fox hole, or I was, 332 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, on the base and just waiting for our 333 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: orders and I watched your show and you got me through. 334 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: Or even NBA players they'll be like, dude, I'm on 335 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: the I'm on the plane, I'm on the bus. I 336 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: watched every episode. It's so unbelievable. We're in some stupid 337 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: studio somewhere, you know, talking to each other, going hey, 338 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: and I talked to you for a second. That's every 339 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: scene on our show started that way. And we were 340 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: just loving each other, loving the opportunity and to know 341 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: that people actually watch the show. It's ridiculous. 342 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: What a special thing to have. I just I love 343 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: hearing those kind of things like it's it's it's incredible. 344 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: I mean, like you said, you're making this show. You 345 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: don't know really how it's going to be received, what 346 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: it's going to be, but it's just such an important 347 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 3: place for people, and they continue to revisit. 348 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: It's it's somewhere to Gilmore Girls that way. 349 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: Like I know so many people that like rewatch Felicity 350 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 3: every year or rewatch it, you know, just on a 351 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: loop almost, or like they fall asleep watching it. 352 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: Or drinking games every time someone says hey, every time 353 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: someone says hey, you drink, I mean you're drunk in 354 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: the after the first act of event. Yeah, I agree 355 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: with you. It's just it's a it's a very very 356 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: special thing. It's hard to compare it to something else. 357 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's you know, and I've been like 358 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: I said, it's been so lucky over and over again, 359 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 2: you know, uh, to have been a part of all 360 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: this stuff. And now you know, like they we did 361 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: a reunion at the festival, the TV festival, and then 362 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: you know they're always asking it. Do you want to 363 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: do a where are they now? I'll give you a scoop, 364 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: very big scoop we're gonna be doing. It looks like 365 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: a Felicity reading of an episode that never aired, and 366 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 2: it's never aired because it was just written. Somebody wrote 367 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: a really I'm not gonna tell you what it is, 368 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: but it's Felicity and all the Felicity characters and we're 369 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: gonna be reading it for charity over zoom. 370 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 371 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's really cool and we're just locking in 372 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: scheduling with everybody. But I just talked to Amy Joe 373 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: and you know, by the way, I stayed friends with 374 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: all these people, and I had Robbie, Benedict and I 375 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: just had breakfast and Mandy of course, Amanda, you know 376 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: Mandy who was my love interest and she was the 377 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 2: greatest I love. She's my favorite character on the show, Megan. 378 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: She uh, the three of us, Rob, Benedict and Mandy 379 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: and I we just had breakfast and we were like, 380 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: it's gonna be fun. And they're like, yeah, so it's happening. 381 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: There's the thing. You'll hear more about it. Follow me 382 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: on you know, on Instagram or or on x and 383 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: and you know, with all the details that come out, 384 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: but it's gonna be It's really really cool. 385 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: That's awesome. And Amy jo Johnson being in the show too. 386 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: I mean, like I was such a big fan of 387 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 3: the Pink Ranger and then seeing like like I was 388 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 3: so excited to see her grow in her career too, 389 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 3: Like like you know, she's not just the Pink Ranger. 390 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: She's doing this incredible dramatic role. 391 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, as frustrating as actors get in certain roles like 392 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: oh I'm just the Pink Power Ranger or whatever. Yeah, 393 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: if you have the goods and if you have the size, 394 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: you know, the big shoes to fill, when you and 395 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: that door opens and step through it, it's I think 396 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: it's incredible transformation. I think it's like, like I told, 397 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, I want I want this to be this 398 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: is my look, Like I love this. I want to 399 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: like start doing roles like this, like you know, this 400 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: is great, And that's just it's just that getting back 401 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 2: to a hair thing. But but like when Amy Joe, 402 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 2: she was so good. Everybody was great, but she was 403 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: so good on the show. And when you think about, oh, 404 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: that's the Pink Power, there's just something really cool and 405 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: special about it. I have a band called The Action 406 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: Figures that I don't know if you know about, but yes, yeah, 407 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: so it was banned from TV years ago. I started 408 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: with Hugh Laurie and Bob Guiney and Scott Ryan's and 409 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: James Denton and Jesse Spencer and Terry Hatcher and all 410 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: these people and now it's called The Action Figures and 411 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: we play conventions and we play corporate gigs and charity events. 412 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: But it's that expectation that people are like, oh, these 413 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: are just actors, and then they're like, holy shit, these 414 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: guys are fun and the music's great, and we kill it. 415 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we really do kill it. We have so 416 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: much fun. And we're a celebrity cover band. We only 417 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: play cover songs. But it's that same expectation when you go, oh, 418 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: she was the Pink Power end or how good can 419 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: she be? And then you're like, wow, you know what 420 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: I mean when someone is given the people don't realize 421 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: us actors like we say, yes, man, we want to work. 422 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: You know, even today, Like I get calls and I'm like, 423 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: you know, my agent will be like, ah, you just 424 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: got an offer for this thing, do you you know 425 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: it's a little thing whatever. I'm like, I want a 426 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: zoom director. Let me read it. Let me unless it's 427 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: something crazy bad, you know, it's I did. I did 428 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: a movie called Big Ass Fighter and you have seen it. 429 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: You've seen it. 430 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 4: It's good. 431 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: It's so good, and I I mean I I have 432 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: such a blast doing it. I've done End of the World, 433 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: Big Ass Fighter, Max Reload and the Other Blasters was 434 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: the other one I know, and then uh, Satanic Hispanics. 435 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: These movies are like low Budge. Oh and group Sex. 436 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: I did a movie called Group Sex that if you 437 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: haven't seen it, it's a Roman. Oh my god. First 438 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: of all, don't google other things because things come up. 439 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: Group sex. But Larry Trilling, who was our showrunner on 440 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: director on Felicity as well as Ken Olan. But Larry 441 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: and I are old, old friends and we wrote this 442 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: script together. It's a romantic comedy that takes place set 443 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: in the world of a sexaholic recovery group. And it's Odette. 444 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: Uh you know. 445 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: Annabelle stars in it with Josh Cook and me and 446 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: James Denton and Him Whitley and Lombardo Boyard and Rob 447 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: Benedict and there's it's such a great cast. It's so fun. 448 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: And it's these small movies that like, I just love 449 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: working man. So when somebody calls, you know, we say yes. 450 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: So the fact that you actually hit lightning in a 451 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 2: bottle with a project that people are they're good people. 452 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: It's well written, you know, and the audience receives it. 453 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: It's just insane. And so now getting back to what 454 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: we were talking about, like the opportunity now to maybe 455 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: bring some of these shows back alias Felicity Heroes, Like 456 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: we already did Heroes once and now they're talking about 457 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: it again. It's like, what's going on. I know I'm 458 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: really old when that happens, but I'm like, oh, I 459 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: can remake a show for the third time. Oh man, I. 460 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: Love you know, looking through your resume, it's so fun 461 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: because like you're one of those actors that you have 462 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: so much cool stuff on yours and it's from the 463 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: biggest franchise imaginable, from Star Wars, Star Trek and then 464 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 3: Big Ass Spider. At the same time, it's just like 465 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: if if Greg Grumberg is in it, you got to 466 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 3: go see whatever it is because it's gonna be good. 467 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: It's the sweetest ever. 468 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 4: I love. 469 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: It's a hallmark. 470 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: Like I get people. I get people that you know, 471 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: comic cons that happens, but I get people all the 472 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: time that come up to me and I'll be like, wait, 473 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: what I just uh, It's just it's like I can't 474 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: believe that they actually saw some of this stuff, you know, 475 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: the real estate is all the same now, So a 476 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: big as fighter and the movie that JJ and I 477 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: are doing right now, you know, they're they're going to 478 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: occupy the same screen space on some streamer eventually, you know. 479 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: I mean, JJ is doing something that could be in 480 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: the theater. It's a huge, huge movie. But I'm just saying, like, 481 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: you've got this small budget and a big budget. At 482 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: the end of the day, they're both vuying for those 483 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: same eyeballs at the same time on your device. So 484 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: you know, if it's good. This is what I tell people, 485 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: because I have young actors that will talk to me 486 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: and they'll be like, I got offered this thing, what 487 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: do you think? And and I go, you know, if 488 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: it's really shitty, no one's going to see it because 489 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: there's just too many things to see. 490 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: You know. 491 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: But if it's if it's good, they'll find it, you know, 492 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: So that I always you know, I'm not trying to 493 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: welcome everybody to send me scripts, but I'm just saying like, 494 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: don't be surprised if you you know, if you write 495 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: something for somebody like me and they go, oh yeah, 496 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: you know, you go like, there's no way I'll never chew. 497 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: There's a way. We want to work and we want 498 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: to work with good people on good projects. 499 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: Greg Greenberg is with us. It's I Smell Pop Culture. 500 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: We're going to be right back. So much more to 501 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: get into. This man has so much awesome stuff in 502 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: his life and his world and in his mind. 503 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Everybody. 504 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 3: It is I Smell Pop Culture. We're probably the I 505 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: Am All In podcast here on iHeartRadio. We're hanging out 506 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: with Greg Gremberg, just this man during the commercial breaks 507 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: giving me incredible ideas that I will be ceiling and 508 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: using and using it to elevate my own O life. 509 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: So wait, but by the way, those ideas didn't come 510 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: for me just now. They came from Sean Blumberg. That 511 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: was my character on the City. 512 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 4: Dude. 513 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: I cannot stop doing this. I do it all the time. 514 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: You know what, I feel like, I'm going to get it. 515 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to get it. I don't have one around here. 516 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: I've been making these ticket bowls. If you follow me 517 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: on social media, I've been making these ticket balls. You 518 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: take a roll like a raffle ticket roll, and you 519 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: you can mold it up if you if. 520 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: You like, like you fan it out or something. 521 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you fan it up and out and it's this 522 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: beautiful bowl and you're like, wait a minute, wait, where's 523 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: my phone. I'm going to show you. It's just like 524 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: I but but more than that. I come up with 525 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 2: business ideas and then I do them. I created the 526 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: first mobile coupon app called yaousa back in the day. 527 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 3: I saw that in your Wikipedia and I was like, 528 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: this is such a sean thing to do, and it's like, 529 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: this is crazy. 530 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: And that's and here here's this ticket balls. Look at this. 531 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 2: Here's the ticket ball that I just made for Leslie Fox, 532 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: a dear, a friend, a caregiver. 533 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: Amazing. Oh my god, they're beautiful. 534 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really And I signed the bottom and I 535 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: give them out, I take the auction them off at 536 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: charity events. Look at this one. 537 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, dude, I mean that's sincerely a 538 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: beautiful looking bowl. And then added like the novelty of 539 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 3: it being like a raffle tickets. 540 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: It's so cool. 541 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 542 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: And then my wife and I I'm just sharing. My 543 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: wife and I, you know, ran to Trader Joe just 544 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: this morning. I got the new Easter bags. 545 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: You got the bag? Wow, lines down the block for 546 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: that thing. 547 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: So my character. But my character started like JJ and 548 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: Matt old dear friends. I produced or helped produce Matt's 549 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 2: thesis film at USC This is how long I've known 550 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: each other. JJ and I have known each other since 551 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: we're five. Wow. So I was guest starring. I had 552 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: one opportunity on a show on Fox that didn't go. 553 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: I did the pilot that was the brother on this 554 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: show called Flying Blind, and that didn't go. It's really funny. 555 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: And then I was doing guest spots here and there. 556 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: I was on Murphy Brown. I mean going way back. 557 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: I was on I was doing everything I was doing. 558 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: I did over fifty commercials. And meanwhile, j J and 559 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: I are living together after college and uh, and he 560 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: and Matt get this opportunity to do a show and 561 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: I go, Okay, guys, I'm on the show. This is 562 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: this is Other actors are like, oh, how do I 563 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: how do I I don't want to be a past 564 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: how do I let my friends know? I'm like that. 565 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 2: I called them right up, and I go, who am 566 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: I playing? 567 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 4: Yes? 568 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: Because because by the way, you only want to work 569 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: with the best people You're You're spending all day and 570 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: night with them, and you want to trust them, and 571 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: so we knew je. So I was like, okay. So 572 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: I looked at the script. I knew what the show was. 573 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: And they said you're too old. You're not in college anymore, 574 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: you know whatever, And I said there was a way, 575 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: and I kept pastoring them and they were like, wait 576 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: a minute, what if these what are these college students? 577 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: Lived with this guy off campus and he was hanging 578 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: out with college because and he was a crazy And 579 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: while I was living with JJ, I'm this out of 580 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: work or out of work struggling actor right and going 581 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: from out to job commercials and this and that. I 582 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: was a driver for a producer named Joel Silver. I 583 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: was his driver for a years. WHOA, yeah, which was crazy. 584 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: Sound crazy? 585 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: It was great crazy. It was like he taught me 586 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: a lot and about the business and everything. But during 587 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: that time I was like okay, so I begged and 588 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: pleaded and they said okay. But during that time, I 589 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 2: had a frozen yogurt business I had. I'm always hustling 590 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 2: for my dad. My dad's an entrepreneur and I always don't. 591 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: So JJ's like Matt were like, let's make that Greg's character. 592 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: And so that's how that's why Sean Blumberg, Greg Grunberg, 593 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: I mean it sounds very similar. Yes. 594 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: I was so curious about that because I'm like, Okay, 595 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: this character is like so perfect for you, and then 596 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: like more about your life, I'm like, oh my god, 597 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: it's like life imitating art. But then it makes so 598 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: much sense that it was, i mean created for you. 599 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: Some of the there's so many inventions and ideas from Sean, 600 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: but bagel knobs favorite of mine, Like doughnut holes that 601 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: are like bagels injected with cream cheese. Yeah, brilliant, I 602 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: mean brilliant. The flavored pen caps, I know that's a 603 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: popular one. 604 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: Flavored pen caps were great. 605 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: The uh the. 606 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: Milkless cereal that you just have water too, Like, that 607 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: was a good one. I had enough, Like this is 608 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: what I was saying, is I'm rewatching. I had to 609 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: rewatch the show for the podcast. Yeah, and I'm rewatching, 610 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: going wait a minute, that's that's actually a really good idea. 611 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: There were all these ideas, and then of course the 612 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: biggest one was documentary, and I was like, way ahead 613 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: of my time. That was my character doing a documentary 614 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: about Oh wait till you hear the segue. I have 615 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: for you on this document a documentary on the students, 616 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: and they would vent and it was me and I 617 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: had to hold the camera. And then the Union came 618 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: and said, no, Greg can't hold the camera, he's an actor. 619 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: So I then I had to be right behind. I 620 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: was like riding a motorcycle, not motor The cameraman, Union 621 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: camera guy Mike May would hold the camera and I 622 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: would have to be behind him, and I would, but 623 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: because the eye line had to be as if I 624 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: was holding the camera. 625 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: That was a whole thing. 626 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: And then yesterday you don't even know about this. I don't. 627 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: I don't think yesterday. I was just nominated as for 628 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: an Emmy as a producer for my for my Pete 629 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: Rose documentary Charlie Hussel and The Matter of Pete Rose 630 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: that's on HBO. Max. 631 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: Congratulations, thank you, incredible. 632 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm producing documentaries and shows and stuff now. 633 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: And I was like, I gave thought to it. Yesterday 634 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: I got a call from my manager and she was like, congratulations, 635 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: you guys got nominated for an Emmy. 636 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 5: I was like what, and I thought, wait a minute, 637 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 5: it was all started with documentary. Yes, awesome, that's incredible. 638 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 5: I have a Pete Rose signed baseball at home. I'm 639 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 5: very proud of That's congratulations. 640 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: That's huge. 641 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 4: You see. 642 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can. You can't see, but 643 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: back there as the poster. Did you see the documentary 644 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: that we did. 645 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: I have not seen the documentary yet, but I will. 646 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 4: Oh. 647 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's four parts and you know, rest in peace, Pete. Uh. 648 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: It was the timing of it. I'm thinking, I'm so 649 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: happy we did it and before, I mean, he wasn't sick, 650 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: so it was really a shock when he passed away. 651 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: But we're still trying to get him in the Hall 652 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: of Fame. It's been a mission. You'll see. It's the 653 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: through line of the present day through line of our podcast, 654 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean of our documentary again. It's called Charlie Hustle 655 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: and the Matter of Pete Rose on Max. And it's 656 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: great because we show this we talked to all these 657 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: people and Pete's awesome, and then we talk about the gambling. 658 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: We talk about his life and his family and everything 659 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: and all the trouble he got in and and his 660 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: regrets and it's so sad, but it's he's just from 661 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: a different time and he did some pretty bad things 662 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: in his life, but he also is the top. So 663 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: how do you separate these heroes that we have, you know, 664 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: from their statistics when you know they're real, that you 665 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: know that they're human and there they have faults. But 666 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: it's I can't wait for you to see it. I'm glad, 667 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: especially if you have a ball. Where did you get 668 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: the ball? 669 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: Signed? 670 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: Did you in Vegas? 671 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: My dad got it for me when I was a 672 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 3: little kid, and I don't even know where where he 673 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: got it from, but it was like that was our 674 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: that was like our prize posision, Like all this Pete 675 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 3: Rose baseballs is like you know, like I'm gonna be 676 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: buried with it probably exactly. 677 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: It's so funny. 678 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: I love. 679 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: So you're okay. 680 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: So you mentioned you've known J. J. Abrams since you 681 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 3: were five years old. I mean, that's that's crazy. 682 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 683 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: Like I was curious, like what the collaboration process is, like, 684 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you you've worked with him on so many things, 685 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: Like so when you hear that he's got like when 686 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: he first got involved with Star Wars, I mean, were you. 687 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: Like, Okay, who am I going to be? Like what's 688 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: my what's my character? 689 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 4: Is that? No question? 690 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: But more than that before that. I mean, look, we 691 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 2: talk three times a day. We play backammon, that's our 692 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: one of our things. But our families, I mean God 693 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: parents her his kids, and he's to mine. And I 694 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: mean they're like they are literally family, and I love 695 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: every one of them. And and JJ and I are brothers. 696 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: We're closer than brothers, to be honest. And he so 697 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: and I talked, you know, we share everything and and 698 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: I'll be like, hey, what do you think of this? 699 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: What do you think of that? And so usually projects 700 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: I've been working on projects with him forever, just as 701 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: a friend and he and he has that with a 702 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: number of people, Matt being one of them, and just 703 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: brilliant people that he has. You know, he never lets 704 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: go of anybody. Everybody that works with JJ wants to 705 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: work with him. Again, he's just the best of the 706 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: best in the business. And I'm lucky enough to call 707 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: my best friend. But so, but when something like Star 708 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: Wars comes up, that's not something that like he's been 709 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: writing since college and you know, like forever young or 710 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: you know, regarding Henry or any of the stuff that 711 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: we were living together. He was writing. This is like wait, 712 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: what And He's like, oh yeah, yeah, they asked me 713 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: and I and I met with them and they're great 714 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: people and I really want to do this, and I'm 715 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: like Star Wars, dude. I freaked out because I'm like, 716 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: we saw Star Wars together, like he saw it before 717 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: I did at the AFCO Theater in Westwood when it 718 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: first came out when we were twelve. And then I 719 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: remember going to see it and it's just like this 720 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: was my childhood. What are you talking about? 721 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 4: I was. 722 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I was like, you're the because 723 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: back then he was like the original he wrote original 724 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: material and they said he said, no, you know, from 725 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: all my work and everything. And truthfully, you know, Tom 726 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: Cruise gave him his big break in film, you know, 727 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: insisting that or supporting that. He directed Mission and so 728 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: that was an extension of Alias, you know, basically the 729 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: same sort of action stuff. And then he put me 730 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: a mission and I had, you know, a couple of 731 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: days on that, which was awesome and so but but 732 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: again those are things. But when Star Wars happened, I 733 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: was just like it was in insistence. It wasn't even 734 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 2: like who am I playing. I'm like I'm playing somebody 735 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: so we got to figure this out, and he was like, 736 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: I got you. You know, He's like, don't worry. So 737 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: I had no idea, but I was so excited that 738 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,959 Speaker 2: one he did not share any scripts with me along 739 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: the way when he was writing, Wow, just didn't. I mean, 740 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: he was like the only thing that I would ever 741 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: get out of him was I'm super excited. I'm super excited. 742 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: He's very, very brutal when it comes to do his work, 743 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: like on himself, not in a negative or harsh way, 744 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 2: but just critical. He just makes He's so detail oriented, 745 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 2: he's so smart. His first draft of every script, and 746 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 2: I've told him this million times, is like if you 747 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: and I were to write our eighth draft is his 748 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: first draft that he because he's got so much experience 749 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: that too, Like they're just brilliant, brilliant writers and directors, producers. 750 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: But so when that happened, I'm like, okay. So then 751 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: I get to same thing happen un lost by the way, 752 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: I got to Hawaii and I had no idea who 753 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: I was playing, and they go he goes go to 754 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 2: wardrobe and you'll see, and I'm like okay. And as 755 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: I'm walking to the set and to the trailers. I 756 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: look up in a tree and I see somebody that 757 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 2: looks like me. It's a dummy Crest as a pilot, 758 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh shit. I'm like, I don't know 759 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: how I get there, but that looks like me. And 760 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: so on Star Wars. I get there, and I get 761 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 2: to London and he goes coming right to this restaurant 762 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: the whole cast we're having, you know, we're having It's 763 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 2: Chinese restaurant. So I got to London and I go 764 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: downstairs at this restaurant, I see Katy Kennedy and JJ 765 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: and and and then I see all these this cast 766 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: and a bunch of people I didn't know. And Kathleen 767 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: Kennedy goes there. He is, there's Snap Weaxley, and I 768 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 2: was like, Snap Wexley, like that sounds awesome. And so 769 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 2: that's how I found out. And then I got fitted, 770 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 2: you know, because I went about a week and a 771 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: half in advance. I got fitted for my flight suit, 772 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 2: my ex wing suit and everything. It was, dude, it 773 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 2: was everything you could possibly dream of and more. And 774 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: then add on top of that, you're doing it with 775 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: your favorite person outside of your spouse in the world 776 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 2: and it was just like the best experience, and it 777 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: always it just keeps getting better and better and better 778 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: with everything we work on together. It's just too much fun. 779 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: I mean talk about like the ultimate dream come true. 780 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 3: Like you get to go into this like movie that 781 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 3: you love from your childhood, your best friends are there, Like, 782 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: what a great experience. 783 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 1: I I can't believe it. 784 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: He's just he's the nice look. I can't hire JJ 785 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: to write a movie to put me in it, and 786 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: I don't. There's no small roles. I don't care what 787 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: I'm doing this thing. I'm going, you know, I've got 788 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: like whatever a week and a half, two weeks on 789 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: this movie. Sam Jackson, Glenn Powell, Jenna you know, Jenna Ortega. 790 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, and me and a bunch of great actors. 791 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: I have a very small role, but still I'm like, 792 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be working with those three brilliant people and 793 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 2: j J. And I'm like it just like you're saying, 794 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 2: it's a dream, it's it's it's ridiculous. I pinch myself 795 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: all the time. I pinch him. That's why he pays 796 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 2: me to pinch him. 797 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: That's I just gotta get off my chest. I love 798 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: my favorite. One of my favorite Star Wars characters is 799 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 3: a guy named Jack Porkins. He was in a New 800 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 3: Hope and. 801 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: You carry on the mantle of being a pilot with 802 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: a cool name, and I love. 803 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: I know what that guy, another fat pilot. 804 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 3: I get it, you're very spelt, Greg, You're in great shape, 805 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 3: but snap Wexley great, great name. And I love of 806 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 3: watching all the pilot scenes of just like you know, 807 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: Red five standing by, or like I was rewatching Riise 808 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: of Skywalker the other day. I love Raise the Skywalker 809 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 3: so much. Yeah, and I mean, do you have a 810 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: line like just like like Incoming Ties or something like that. 811 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got your back. 812 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 2: Po is like what people like have me sign on 813 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: their thing, but people that really are in the note 814 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,479 Speaker 2: there's a line that I said that that I say, 815 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: what happened? It got cut and but it's still on 816 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: the DVD extras or something where he goes, let's go 817 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: to warp speed or whatever it's called, not warp speed, 818 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 2: let's go to hyper speed or something, and I say, 819 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 2: is there any other speed? And then we jam it? 820 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: So that rules. 821 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a great line. You know, It's like, 822 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: is there any other speed. You know, I want to 823 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: show you this picture. People can't see it, But dude, 824 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 2: back then, at this age, I had no idea that 825 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: I was standing next to my future self. 826 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 3: He's staying in front of a Buddha statue because. 827 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 2: I look like a Buddha right now with my hair 828 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 2: like this. So funny, you know, talking. 829 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 3: About we were talking earlier about cutting your you know, 830 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 3: you shaved your head for this role. I'm and like, 831 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 3: when you're doing Felicity, you're saying, like contractually obligated to 832 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 3: like maintain your appearance to a certain extent. I'm so curious. Like, 833 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 3: there's this story of Ryan Gosling getting a role with 834 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember who the director was, but he 835 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 3: Gosling decided that the character would be like not morbidly obese, 836 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: but very overweight. So he like gained a lot of 837 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 3: weight and then he showed up to the set and like, 838 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 3: what do you This was not what we discussed we 839 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: were talking about, and he lost the role because of it, 840 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: Like they had to cast someone else because they didn't 841 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: want this character to be over So I'm curious, Like. 842 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 2: My god, that's crazy. Well, if you're asking me about 843 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 2: my weight, no, no, no, but it's it is not 844 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 2: only weight and maintaining your look, but also it's one 845 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's it's so weird. It's the one 846 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 2: profession where that discrimination is allowed because it's based on 847 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: something that was written. But no, there are it goes 848 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: beyond that. We're not allowed to do any dangerous sports. 849 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 2: We're not allowed to jump out of planes. We're not 850 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: allowed to it's all because you're you're insured and and 851 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: you're being bonded. So the bonded the bonding company will say, 852 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 2: you know, I mean this happened on uh. I was 853 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 2: on a move. I did a movie called The Holloman 854 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: with Kevin Bacon and he wasn't the first one cast. 855 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 2: It was they wanted where they cast Robert Downey Junior. 856 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 2: But Downey was going through whatever he was going through 857 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 2: drug wise that during that time, and he couldn't be insured, 858 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: and and so they got Kevin. I mean, Kevin was 859 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 2: actoutely incredible. But you know, that's the whole thing is 860 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: like the insurance on this stuff, and it's for the 861 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: time that you're making the movie. Some people just they're 862 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: not ensurable, they're not bondable, you know, And and anything 863 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 2: can happen to us. I mean, you know, we're human, 864 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 2: but but putting yourself in a little bit more of 865 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: a like race car driving or oh, Lisa Shue Elizabeth 866 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,479 Speaker 2: shoe On on that movie where we shot for nine months. 867 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 2: Why because we shot for six months and she decided 868 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: she's a friend too. She went out and did some exercise, 869 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: not even decided. She was working out, trying to stay 870 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: in good shape, and she popped her achilles, oh, during lunch, 871 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: and because they have a gym at Sony, and so 872 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 2: she did it and they were like, oh no, And 873 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: that was. 874 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 4: Before we had to do all this running stuff. 875 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So we had to shut down for a 876 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: little bit and we came back and I mean, it's 877 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 2: it's a miracle that these things, you know, happened. I 878 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 2: remember on Star Wars, if you remember, before I went 879 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: to London, Harrison was trapped. This door came down in production. 880 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I remember when this happened, Yes, yeah, and it. 881 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: Came down on Harrison and JJ ran over to try 882 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: and lift the door up. JJ ended up hurting his 883 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: back helping Harrison Harrison and going to the hospital just 884 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: because they want to check on him. I mean, you 885 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 2: know that guy. Yeah, toughest guy in the world. And 886 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: but it's like things happen, man, things happen, So you know, yeah, 887 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 2: you have to you have to maintain all that stuff. 888 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 2: And there are times. I mean, I did a movie 889 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 2: called Paterno where Al Pacino plays my dad and you 890 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 2: know Paterno, and I played Scott Paterno. And Scott was 891 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: you know when I during the time that I played 892 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: him in his life, he was huge. And so they 893 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 2: put a fat suit on me and I get to 894 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 2: New York and Parry Levinson. Perry says, he's like, just 895 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 2: enjoy everything, man in New York. Just enjoy everythingcause they're 896 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 2: putting me on fat suit. But they wanted the fatness 897 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 2: in my neck and my face to match the fat suit, 898 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 2: so they were you know, I would bay gels. I mean, 899 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 2: New York is no shortage of carbs. 900 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 6: Man. 901 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: I literally ate my way through Manhattan. And you know 902 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 2: the problem with that is at my age, I'm fifty 903 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 2: eight now, it's like really hard to lose the weight. 904 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: It's like it's hard to you know, maintain it and 905 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 2: lose it. But I do the best I can. 906 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 4: You know. 907 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 3: Greg Greenberg hanging out with us. This is I Smell 908 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 3: pop Culture. We're having so much fun. I have a 909 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 3: couple more questions for you. We got to talk about 910 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 3: your new series coming on Max, some other stuff that's 911 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: really really exciting in your life. 912 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 2: I want to do a promo for you, please. Okay, Hey, 913 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 2: it's Greg Grunberg from Felicity, Alias Lost, all these great shows, 914 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 2: and yes, if you smell pop culture, it was probably 915 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 2: me because I fared it. 916 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 3: There you go, we'll be right back, and we're back. 917 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 3: It's I Smell pop culture. My name's Easton Allen hanging 918 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 3: out here. It's Greg Gruenberg from Felicity, Star Wars, Star 919 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 3: Trek anything you could possibly name, anything you love. If 920 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 3: you have a poster of it in your bedroom, Greg 921 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: is in it. 922 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: A by the way, speaking posters, I did The Boys. 923 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if you watch that show. Yes, I 924 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 2: had a small, tiny little cameo on The Boys, Eric Oric. 925 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 6: As yourself, right, Yeah, I played myself. Yeah, Easton, dude, 926 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 6: you know all the show. Yeah, I played myself and 927 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 6: then they put me the movie within the movie. So 928 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 6: the poster for Dawn of the Seven. 929 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 2: I'm on the poster. That's so awesome. You keep jabbing away. 930 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna show it to you right now. 931 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 932 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 3: I mean, like I was just saying, anything that's cool, 933 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 3: anything that you like, Greg is in. But you have 934 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 3: a show coming May next month, May fifteenth. It's called Duster. 935 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,919 Speaker 3: It's coming out on Max the one to Watch once again, 936 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 3: teaming up with j g Abrams on this. 937 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 2: And and LaToya Morgan it is, and Josh Holloway and 938 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,919 Speaker 2: the entire cast Keith David, Rachel Hillson, Like, it's such 939 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 2: a cool show man. 940 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 4: This is there. 941 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 2: Occasionally there's a time when I'll times when I'll do stuff. 942 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,959 Speaker 2: I care about everything I do, but there are times 943 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 2: like this where I really hope the audience feels the 944 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: same way we do. It's socking cool. It is just 945 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 2: a cool, cool show. The trailers out now, and I 946 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 2: think Josh and Rachel are going and Keith are going 947 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 2: to the can to the Can Film Festival or the 948 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 2: Can TV Festival or something to promote it, which is 949 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 2: a good sign that you know, HBO likes it. It's 950 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 2: gonna be on Max May fifteenth, like you said, And 951 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 2: it takes place in nineteen seventy one. I play the 952 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 2: head of the FBI and Rachel is an FBI agent, 953 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: a new agent that comes into town and she's got 954 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 2: a beef and we're trying to trying to turn this 955 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: guy that Josh plays, we call Duster. He drives a 956 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 2: plymouth duster for the mob and we're trying to get 957 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 2: him to cooperate with us. We're trying to get him 958 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 2: to be, you know, an inside agent or work as 959 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 2: a double agent with us, and to take down the 960 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 2: organized crime there. And it's but it's so good. I 961 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 2: mean that that tells you nothing about the show. It's 962 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 2: all character driven, it's fun, and it's seventies and it's 963 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 2: my favorite thing. I am a car nut dude. I 964 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 2: own if I do a project, I buy the car 965 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 2: if I I love everything about My son actually stole 966 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 2: a chewy seatbelt from Star Wars. My family came to 967 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 2: visit in London and we uh, we took a tour 968 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 2: of the set and the boys were in the cockpit 969 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: and then they climbed out of the cockpit and we 970 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 2: got back in the car and my son was like, Luke, 971 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 2: what I took? That was the proudest moment in my life. 972 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 2: But no, I I love everything seventies. It's just it's 973 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 2: a it's a time when I look back on stuff 974 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 2: and I watched stuff, you know, once upon time in 975 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 2: Hollywood and all that stuff. It's like it's just a 976 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: rich time and and it lends itself to great story 977 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 2: because you don't have the device of a cell phone 978 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 2: or a fax machine or it's like it's a seventy 979 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 2: maybe yeah, but you know what I mean, it's it's 980 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 2: like you can't just pick up the phone or you know, 981 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 2: or text somebody or whatever. So anyway, it's really really 982 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 2: good Duster. Check it out. I hope people enjoy it, 983 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 2: you know, really exciting. 984 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 3: I can't I can't wait. I can't wait to watch Duster. 985 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 3: And then I also I just want to make sure 986 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 3: we mention this. You have this really cool program that 987 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 3: you're part of helping those living with epilepsy, caregivers for 988 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 3: those of epilepsy, and it's called talk about It on 989 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 3: video dot Com. 990 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about that? 991 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 2: It started many years ago. Our son, our oldest son, Jake, 992 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 2: who's twenty eight now, he's living well with epilepsy. And 993 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 2: epilepsy and seizures can be absolutely shattering. But if people 994 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 2: around you know what to do, in case you have 995 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: a seizure, it doesn't present. You know, epilepsy is a 996 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,959 Speaker 2: kind of thing where in most people it doesn't present, 997 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 2: so you don't know that people around you have the 998 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 2: chance of having a seizure. We all one in twenty 999 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: six people will have, you know, a seizure in their lifetime. 1000 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 2: And there's three I mean there's yeah, there's like thirty 1001 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 2: million people, three million people in the United States that 1002 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 2: have It's just it's a it's a huge thing, and 1003 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: people don't talk enough about it. There's a stigma attached 1004 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 2: to it. So I found I was like, this is 1005 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 2: a way that I can kind of reverse that narrative 1006 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 2: educate people. The ignorance that comes isn't because anyone's being 1007 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 2: mean or anything. People just don't realize that there are 1008 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 2: simple things like you can't choke on your tongue, You 1009 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 2: don't stick anything in anyone's mouth when they're having a seizure. 1010 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 2: You put them on their side, put something under their 1011 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 2: heads so they're not banging their head on the ground, 1012 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 2: and just let them have their seizure and it'll ride 1013 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: itself out and chances are they're going to be fine. 1014 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 2: And you don't even need to call the paramedics, but 1015 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 2: if it lasts longer than two and a half minutes, 1016 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 2: call it paramatics. All this stuff is that talk about 1017 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 2: it on video dot com And now we're helping the 1018 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 2: National Bleeding Sorce Foundation, We're helping cancer, we're helping all 1019 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 2: kinds of other causes. And it's you'll see if you 1020 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 2: go to talk about it on video dot com. You 1021 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 2: And by the way, we have we just crossed over 1022 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube. Wow because it thank you, 1023 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 2: because every actor that I've ever worked with is helping 1024 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 2: me do PSAs and get the word out. And my 1025 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 2: podcast talk about It is really popular because I'm just 1026 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 2: trying to not normalize, but I'm just trying to engage 1027 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: people in the conversation and go, oh, there are a 1028 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 2: lot of heroes in this community, both patients and caregivers 1029 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: and doctors and whatever. I also have a series called 1030 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 2: The Caregiver. You can go to The Caregiver series dot 1031 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 2: com where I take caregivers out for a day of 1032 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 2: care and talk about what it's like to be a 1033 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 2: caregiver and we all end up being caregivers in our lives. 1034 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 2: So I'm really enjoying. I'm glad thank you for bringing 1035 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 2: it up, because I enjoy talk about it so much. 1036 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 2: I enjoy the Caregiver series so much. I kind of wish, 1037 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 2: you know. I love acting, don't get me wrong, but 1038 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 2: it's so rewarding to do this, and you know, I've 1039 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: connected and learned from so many people. It's really it's 1040 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 2: pretty awesome. 1041 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 3: I'm so impressed by what you're doing. And I think 1042 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 3: it's so incredible you're using your platform to spread awareness 1043 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 3: of this and the caregiver thing, especially a very close 1044 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 3: friend of mine, his wife suffered a traumatic brain injury 1045 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 3: and he's become her caregiver and just talking to him 1046 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 3: about it's such a challenging role and a role that 1047 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 3: no one's really prepared for, and people are afraid to 1048 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 3: talk about it and they're afraid to be open about it. 1049 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 3: And I I just really appreciate you showing that side 1050 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 3: of life and what can happen to people and how 1051 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 3: special these roles are in people lives. 1052 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean as I always look at it selfishly 1053 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 2: because I get so much more out of it than 1054 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 2: people are getting, and people are really touched by it 1055 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 2: and the connecting and realizing that all alone. Like your 1056 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 2: friend is not alone, he's unfortunately in the majority, like 1057 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 2: people are out there taking care of people. And what 1058 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 2: your friend has to realize very quickly, And this is 1059 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 2: what we stress on Caregiver Series is as a caregiver, 1060 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 2: you need to take care of yourself first. It's like 1061 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 2: when they say on a plane, put a mask on 1062 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 2: yourself before you put a mask on your child. If 1063 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 2: you're not healthy mentally, physically, whatever, you can't take care 1064 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 2: of the ones that you love. So you need to 1065 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 2: have that time for yourself. I'm talking about five minutes 1066 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 2: a day. I'm talking about like get the app, I 1067 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 2: have this app, right, meditate and you know, you need 1068 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 2: to take care of yourself because you're now taking care 1069 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 2: of others in a bigger way than you originally anticipated. 1070 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 2: And so you know, the people are heroes, but we're 1071 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 2: all in this together and nothing's no one should be 1072 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 2: ashamed of anything. If you go on social media and 1073 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 2: people are talking about their perfect life, they're lying, Yes, 1074 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: everybody's got something. You know, So I again, I appreciate you, 1075 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 2: and I just encourage people go to you know, talk 1076 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 2: the Caregiver Series dot com. Go to talk about it 1077 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 2: on video dot Com. You'll see your favorite celebrities from 1078 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 2: everything that I've ever done, asking important questions and then 1079 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 2: doctors answering and you'll learn something. You'll laugh on my 1080 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 2: podcast talk about it, you'll laugh. I mean, we have 1081 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:30,439 Speaker 2: a good time. 1082 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 1: That's so awesome. 1083 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 3: Greg Greenberg, one of the best to ever do it. 1084 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for hanging out with us today. 1085 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 3: This has just been so much fun. I could talk 1086 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 3: to you for hours. Man, there's so like what it 1087 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 3: brings up. 1088 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. I smell a spinoff, No, I 1089 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 2: smell pop culture. Thank you for having me. 1090 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, the best duster on Max coming May fifteenth. 1091 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 3: To watch out for this new JJ Abrams movie where 1092 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 3: you're going to see Greg's beautiful bald head in it 1093 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 3: and so much more come in the Felicity Zoom Red. 1094 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 1: You've got to watch out for that. Just yeah. 1095 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 3: Thank you again for being so generous with your time 1096 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 3: answering all my questions. You're just the greatest man. 1097 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you, and thanks to your to 1098 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 2: your you have an awesome show, and thanks for everybody listening. 1099 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 2: And I got to this far. This was a lot 1100 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 2: of fun. Appreciate it. 1101 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: Wow again, thank you Greg, You're just. You're the best. 1102 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: Exceeded any expectation I had. You're just it was. 1103 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 4: I love it. 1104 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 2: I love it. Hey anytime, if you need me to, 1105 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 2: if you have somebody else and you're like, would be 1106 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 2: really funny. If great commented on this pop, just let 1107 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 2: me know whatever. You're easy to talk to, you dude, 1108 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 2: you're the best. 1109 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: Thanks man, You have a great rest of your day. 1110 00:52:33,920 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 4: You too. Bye bye, Hey everybody, and don't forget. 1111 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 6: Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast 1112 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 6: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.