WEBVTT - Introducing: Norah Jones is Playing Along

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. Today, we're sharing an episode from a great artist

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<v Speaker 1>who also happens to have one of our favorite podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Nora Jones is Playing Along. Nora is, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>a multi Grammy winning artist who loves to collaborate with

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<v Speaker 1>other musicians, so she started a podcast where she can

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<v Speaker 1>do just that. Each episode features a different musical guest,

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<v Speaker 1>and you, as a listener, get to be a fly

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall in the studio as musicians come together

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<v Speaker 1>fro impromptu music making and candid conversations. With guests like

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Tweety, Robert Glasper, and Lucas Nelson. You'll hear everything

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<v Speaker 1>from their hits to classic covers to songs written on

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<v Speaker 1>the spot. The episode we're sharing today is with the

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<v Speaker 1>legendary Mavis Staples. You'll be treated to stories from her

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<v Speaker 1>time as a member of the iconic Staples Singers, spreading

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<v Speaker 1>powerful messages of peace through gospel and soul music. Mavis

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<v Speaker 1>also talks about her current projects a solo artist and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll also hear Mavis and Nora play gospel classic as

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<v Speaker 1>well as pay homage to Mavis's father, Pop Staples, along

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<v Speaker 1>with a few other surprises. So listen and then follow

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<v Speaker 1>and subscribe to. Nora Jones is playing along wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts to hear more great episodes with fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>guest artists. Without further ado, please enjoy. Nora Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>playing along with Mayvis Staples.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with

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<v Speaker 2>Mayvis Staples and just playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Alone, just playing alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, welcome to the show. I'm Nora, and with me

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<v Speaker 2>as always is Sarah Oda.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's show is so fun to record and pretty emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you felt about it, Oda, but

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it was it was very very special.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like Mayvi's Staples is a force, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 5>like a very sweet, tender, loving, huggable force.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, She's just an amazing human. She is full

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<v Speaker 2>of love and we love her.

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<v Speaker 5>You cannot be in a bad mood when she's in

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<v Speaker 5>the room.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And we talk about that a little in this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>about her her energy and where it comes from. Mayva Staples,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, was part of the Staples Singers.

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<v Speaker 5>Mavis and her family were iconic throughout the Civil rights movement.

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<v Speaker 5>Her father was friends with doctor Martin Luther King Junior,

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<v Speaker 5>and they performed at rallies and protests before his speeches.

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<v Speaker 5>They inspired people when people needed it the most.

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<v Speaker 2>We enjoyed talking to Mavis about her family and the

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic of the Staples singers, Pops, and of course now

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<v Speaker 2>she's also a solo artist in her own right. She's

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<v Speaker 2>influenced so many people.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody loves her and aside from the incredible music that

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<v Speaker 5>she makes, all the stories that come along with the

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<v Speaker 5>history she's had and the people she's encountered along the way.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I could just listen to her talk all

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<v Speaker 5>day long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we talk about all this and we sing several

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<v Speaker 2>songs together, some that I didn't even know we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to sing in this episode, So that was really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>She just goes with it at all times, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's so fun about being around Mavis.

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<v Speaker 4>I met her for the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Time in twenty ten when we were both honoring Paul

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<v Speaker 2>McCartney at the Kennedy Center Honors and she saw me.

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<v Speaker 4>We talk about this too, but she saw me and

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<v Speaker 4>she took my hand and she said, oh, hey, should

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<v Speaker 4>you be my daughter?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she just hugged me and it was just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pure love.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever since then.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was so honored that Mavis could join me

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<v Speaker 2>and we could play songs together and reconnect. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a long time since I'd seen her.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and we recorded this episode at Jeff Tweety's studio

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<v Speaker 5>in Chicago called the Loft, and start off by talking

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<v Speaker 5>about a song that he wrote for her called You

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<v Speaker 5>Are Not Alone.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope you enjoy. So that's the MAVs corner. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know that when I was here. You don't have

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<v Speaker 4>a corner.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I've been all over the nooks, even in

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<v Speaker 2>the draw.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Well I tell you I got my first Grammy from here.

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<v Speaker 4>Really.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, You're Not Alone. I was from the staple thing,

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<v Speaker 7>just Mavis. Uh huh, Yeah, that was my first.

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<v Speaker 2>Grand That's one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 6>It is beautiful and you and I got down on

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<v Speaker 6>it too in the Apollo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was hoping we could start with it actually,

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<v Speaker 2>just to warm us up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, no problem. Yeah, I know the words to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did whenever he brought it to you, were you moved

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<v Speaker 2>by the lyrics?

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<v Speaker 4>I was just out and see what he did.

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<v Speaker 7>He was writing it right here in the studio and

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<v Speaker 7>I was standing over him and he got through that

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<v Speaker 7>first verse and I chill bumps came up, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and all of a sudden he stopped. I'm waiting for

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<v Speaker 7>him to go into the second verse, and he stopped,

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<v Speaker 7>and I said, what you doing. He says, I need

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<v Speaker 7>more time, more time, he said. I said, oh, tweety,

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<v Speaker 7>and he said.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna have it for you tomorrow. I gotta take

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<v Speaker 6>it home. I'm gonna have for you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, okay, tweet.

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<v Speaker 6>But he gave me the part of the melody, and

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<v Speaker 6>I laid with that the night that I before tonight,

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<v Speaker 6>I was at home, and when I came in the

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<v Speaker 6>next day, he laid it on men.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell you it just it just hit me. And because.

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<v Speaker 6>At that time, you know, I was feeling alone. Really yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I had lost my sister, my oldest sister.

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<v Speaker 7>And and uh my other sister was sick, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>So the song hit me. You know, it was for me.

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<v Speaker 7>It was for me.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels made for you.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was made for me. And uh, I love it.

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<v Speaker 7>We sing it every show. We don't go off the

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<v Speaker 7>stage without singing You're not alone.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard you sing this many, many times. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>love it. I was around the house singing it.

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<v Speaker 6>If you feel alone, No, I don't alone. I just

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<v Speaker 6>love the song I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, now see I got you, babe.

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<v Speaker 4>I love you. I love you two little girl. Well

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<v Speaker 4>let's try it. Okay, you want to try it?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing I love about this song is how there's

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<v Speaker 2>harmony the whole way through. Yes, and it has that

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<v Speaker 2>not alone feeling it does.

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<v Speaker 7>It's so beautiful and its just and and and it

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<v Speaker 7>makes you.

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<v Speaker 6>Feel it's so much better. It makes you feel like

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<v Speaker 6>you're you're just telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not alone. I know you're not alone. And I

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<v Speaker 4>tell you people people love it. People as soon as

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<v Speaker 4>we hit it, they go, cobbe, it's the best hit it.

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<v Speaker 9>You're not long, I'm with you, loaned to.

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<v Speaker 6>H what's that song? Candy song?

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<v Speaker 10>Got A broken Heart, a broken home, I slayed out

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<v Speaker 10>and afraid.

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<v Speaker 4>Open up. This is a rag.

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<v Speaker 11>I want to get it through you.

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<v Speaker 12>You, Oh not loan, You're not alone?

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<v Speaker 6>Here the read night, I stand in your place. Either

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<v Speaker 6>read whatever, reface taste the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>A broken dream, a broken.

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<v Speaker 8>Heart, I slay it.

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<v Speaker 4>And afraid open up.

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<v Speaker 2>This is raided.

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<v Speaker 6>Will to get it through you.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not longe.

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<v Speaker 6>An open hand, an open heart. There's no need to

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<v Speaker 6>be afraid, overnap this raid.

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<v Speaker 10>I wonna get it back to you.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not alone.

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<v Speaker 6>No no, I won't to get it through to you.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not alone. No no, I'm gonna get it through

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<v Speaker 4>to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Not alone.

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<v Speaker 4>Help me, Oh my god, shelp me.

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<v Speaker 6>That was pretty Thank you. Oh that's a beautiful you are.

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<v Speaker 6>So you played all that.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh there was notes and that and that that dream and.

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<v Speaker 4>That beautiful, so beautiful tweety A broken dream, a broken heart.

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<v Speaker 6>It hurts, it hurts over.

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<v Speaker 4>I just love it so much. And I loved Jeff.

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<v Speaker 6>I was so glad you sang that with me and

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<v Speaker 6>the Apollo.

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<v Speaker 4>That was really fun.

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<v Speaker 6>And at first they couldn't find the piano.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well I put it on a world it' sir right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I prayed. I said, he want to get her

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<v Speaker 7>here and here they going.

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<v Speaker 4>You prayed for a piano for me. Yeah, I'm honored.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed, that was really fun. That was your birthday.

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<v Speaker 4>It was my idea. That's crazy. Check that out.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, you helped me celebrate my birthday that was.

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<v Speaker 2>The second time, because I was with you in Newport

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<v Speaker 2>on one of your birthdays at the Focus.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yes, that must have been. That must have been

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<v Speaker 7>my seven year.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably, I think. I don't know. I can't remember. I

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<v Speaker 4>stopped trying to remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember how old I am. Sometimes I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but but but who cares? I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel like any different.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're buds and where this could be

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<v Speaker 2>the same age or you know what I mean, like

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't feel it doesn't feel very different. It doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 4>very different.

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<v Speaker 2>Though you've gotten more experienced than me.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you know, yes, and I you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>I'm I'm the old girl. I'm just I'm the seniors.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm the golden girl. But I'm hanging with young blood.

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<v Speaker 2>You are, and people love you, young people love you.

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<v Speaker 4>That makes me feel you know, you walk into the

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<v Speaker 4>room and you make me feel young. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>You just bring the sunshine you.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it really makes me feel good that the young adults.

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<v Speaker 7>I have one friend who works at Columbia College over here,

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<v Speaker 7>and she teaches, you know, she teaches music and she

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<v Speaker 7>tells her students stories and she lets me know. She says, Maybes,

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<v Speaker 7>these kids love you. These kids, Uh no, you don't know,

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<v Speaker 7>Hermit Terry Hermitt. No, yeah, but she she tells me

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<v Speaker 7>all the time, and it makes me.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel so good. They do though, they love you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well see they see that I'm a kid too,

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<v Speaker 4>you are, I admit, I agree. Yeah, I've never grown up.

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<v Speaker 6>In my heart, I'm still a little kid, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just I just I love to play, I

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<v Speaker 6>love to sing.

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<v Speaker 4>I just love people. So I love babies.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, man, are you take everybody's bab Are you good

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<v Speaker 4>with them? I'm good with yeah. Oh.

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<v Speaker 7>We get on a plane and and I always take

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<v Speaker 7>this little bottle of bubbles with me just in case

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<v Speaker 7>some baby is going to cry on that plane.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wait on it.

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<v Speaker 7>When I hear baby cry, I get my bubbles out,

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<v Speaker 7>find the baby, and I started blowing bubbles. And the

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<v Speaker 7>baby looks at the bubbles. Mama be so happy that

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<v Speaker 7>I came along. Yeah, what I'm bubbles.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that's your nickname, right, that's my nickname? Yeah? Who

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<v Speaker 4>gave you that nickname? Really? Since you were a little girl,

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<v Speaker 4>since you were little?

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<v Speaker 6>No, not it wasn't until I was about I wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>thirty yet.

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<v Speaker 7>I was in my twenties, okay, and uh, I asked,

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<v Speaker 7>I said, Mama, why you call me bubbles?

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<v Speaker 6>She said, maybe it's because you're so bubbly. You're just

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<v Speaker 6>always so happy.

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<v Speaker 4>You just you know, you just came out that way.

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<v Speaker 4>I came that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask that where that comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think people who have that just are like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just happy, go lucky all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's a great way to be. It really is.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm grateful because but every now and then I'll

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<v Speaker 7>let something get on my nerve. But it's got to

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<v Speaker 7>be strong, yeah, you know, because most of the time

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<v Speaker 7>I overlook it whatever. You know, if it was supposed

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<v Speaker 7>to get on my nerve, I can overlook it and

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<v Speaker 7>stay happy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll take some of that, please, Can I have some

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<v Speaker 4>of that? It's free of charge.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty happy in general, but I'm not a bubbly person,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Like I don't bring the

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<v Speaker 2>sunshine into every room, but I don't get too sad.

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<v Speaker 4>Usually I'm pretty even.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I have I don't realize it, but you do

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<v Speaker 7>bring the sunshine.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's kind of you. But I mean, when I'm

0:16:59.876 --> 0:17:02.436
<v Speaker 2>talking about you bring in the sunshine, you're on a hole.

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<v Speaker 6>Well come in, noisey, noisy, cruel.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And and and Prince used to tell me, he said, Davis,

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<v Speaker 6>you're talking too loud.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, what a thing to say that would be.

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<v Speaker 7>I was grateful though, because also told me then really,

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<v Speaker 7>but I've always told you know, there were five of

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<v Speaker 7>us children in the house. Yeah, and if you want

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<v Speaker 7>to be heard, you gotta let your voice be heard.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just I come from a noisy crew, just like.

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<v Speaker 4>I say, all the hig family. That's what it's about.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, But right, and I'm I'm just grateful.

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<v Speaker 6>I know I should talk softer and save.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at this point you're good. Did they say

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<v Speaker 2>that out of concern for your singing voice? Yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I get that. But if it hadn't been

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<v Speaker 2>a problem yet, right then.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, I'm not talking about all my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a problem.

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<v Speaker 7>But I guess they were just used to being around

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<v Speaker 7>people who talked under their voice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and now I was surprised his voice so.

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<v Speaker 2>Mayavis, Prince he had a low speaking voice. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>met him once, but he did he and he was

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<v Speaker 2>very soft spoken.

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<v Speaker 4>He was, he was, and he observed a lot, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I took him to I said, Prince, it's just gonna

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<v Speaker 7>have to make you my son.

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<v Speaker 4>Al right, Bavis, I'll be your son.

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<v Speaker 7>And I loved him talk because his voice was just rare. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, but when he sing, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 7>a heavy voice when he sing to but to talk.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw him do an interview with Arsenio Hall one time,

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<v Speaker 7>and man, his voice.

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<v Speaker 4>Or Senior was shocked. He was shocked too.

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<v Speaker 7>But some people, uh talk in a different voice then

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<v Speaker 7>they sing.

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<v Speaker 2>My kids told me that when they hear my voice singing,

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<v Speaker 2>they think I sound different when I'm just home.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you're telling them what to do, That's what

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<v Speaker 4>they tell me.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, they tell you said, yes, your boy, your

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<v Speaker 7>singing voice is very mellow and sweet and soft and

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<v Speaker 7>and and you you could make a person hurt themselves.

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<v Speaker 7>You just you just calm you down. You said, when

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<v Speaker 7>I first heard what's.

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<v Speaker 4>The name, Oh don't know why, don't know why?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, when I first don't know, don't know why.

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<v Speaker 7>I was around the house doing something and that came

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<v Speaker 7>on the radio and I stopped whatever I was doing.

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<v Speaker 7>I had to stop and listen. And then the next time,

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<v Speaker 7>I said, it's a beautiful song. Next time I heard it,

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<v Speaker 7>I saw you. You were on television.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was walking around. I was again the TV

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<v Speaker 6>was on and you came on and I said, it's

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<v Speaker 6>a song.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw you. I said, oh my.

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<v Speaker 6>Goodness, start singing it.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's just been one of my favorites all time.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. Yeah, my friend Jesse Harris wrote that song. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>he was in my band and he wrote the song.

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<v Speaker 4>I Love You wrote it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes people think I wrote it, but hey, I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a few songs on that album, but I didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>get deep into songwriting until a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you sing it like you wrote it. I think

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<v Speaker 4>you have to, don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to feel like you own the song to

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<v Speaker 2>really deliver it, even if you didn't come up with it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what you do with the Jeff Twitty songs. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what you do with every song. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>really do what you have to do, you really do.

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<v Speaker 7>You've got to from your heart. Yeah, it's got to

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<v Speaker 7>come from your heart. If you you want to deliver

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<v Speaker 7>it and you want people to get it and feel

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<v Speaker 7>it and react from it the way you have, that's

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<v Speaker 7>what's the way you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Pop's always told me.

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<v Speaker 7>We were in in New York one time about I

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<v Speaker 7>was about thirteen years old, and these kids sang before us,

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<v Speaker 7>and they were just jumping all across the stage and

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<v Speaker 7>singing loud. So when it was time for us to sing,

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<v Speaker 7>I did that. Yeah, and my father snatched me off

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<v Speaker 7>the stage. He said, what is wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 11>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 7>Wow, he said, what are you doing? I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>just singing. Dad, He said, maybe, let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't you your music don't need a gimmick. You

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<v Speaker 7>don't need a gimmick.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>You sing from your heart. Sing what comes from the

0:21:52.356 --> 0:21:56.596
<v Speaker 7>heart reaches the heart. And that's the way. I've never

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<v Speaker 7>forgotten it, never, you know. And he said, you don't

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<v Speaker 7>be you don't have to clown. You don't need to

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<v Speaker 7>give me. I was drying the kids they were jumping

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<v Speaker 7>across the stage. Yeah, singing loud, and uh, he says,

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<v Speaker 7>the uh. You singing sacred music. You don't need any gimmick.

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<v Speaker 7>Sing from your heart. If you sing from your heart,

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<v Speaker 7>you'll reek the people.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with that. I also I think his voice

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<v Speaker 4>also had that mellow, easy going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he wasn't trying to sing over anybody, but you

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<v Speaker 2>had to lean in.

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<v Speaker 4>To hear it. And then it hit you right right.

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<v Speaker 6>And you're the same way. You know, you laid back.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where, I don't know why, but you are.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just so proud to know you, a little lady.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm proud to know you.

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<v Speaker 2>I met you at the Kennedy Center for the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>and you took my hands.

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<v Speaker 4>And you saw I was nervous. I remember you knew

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<v Speaker 4>I was nervous.

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<v Speaker 6>I knew, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Could tell I could. So you took me and you

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<v Speaker 4>held me. I said, I gotta protect this little girl.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, what am I doing here? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I came on down there and got you and just

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<v Speaker 7>stand right by me and we held hands all through

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<v Speaker 7>that finale.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that was so fun. It was so special meeting

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<v Speaker 4>you there.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh man, that was a good time. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 6>a good time. Anytime I see your name, I flare up.

0:23:30.596 --> 0:23:32.076
<v Speaker 6>You know, that could go either way.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was seeing you, I was seeing you so.

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<v Speaker 7>Much like you told me, Yes, that was Christmas. But

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<v Speaker 7>Christmas needed you, I was, it really needed you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I needed Christmas last year, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I made a Christmas album because I needed I

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<v Speaker 2>needed a little joyful, something right feel right good.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm glad you made that album because they they

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<v Speaker 7>were a featuring.

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<v Speaker 6>You all week, all day again.

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<v Speaker 4>Christmas exhaustion. Oh it was beautiful.

0:24:08.676 --> 0:24:11.996
<v Speaker 2>You know recorded the song from your Christmas The Staples

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<v Speaker 2>Singers Christmas album we did the twenty fifth day of December.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll send it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't it wasn't on the album, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>a bonus track. Oh, because I didn't feel like we

0:24:22.276 --> 0:24:24.516
<v Speaker 2>made it. It was so your version is so good

0:24:24.636 --> 0:24:25.956
<v Speaker 2>it was hard to beat it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's great. It's still a.

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<v Speaker 2>Great version, and it's a great I loved your I

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<v Speaker 2>listened to your Christmas album a.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot really recording. Yeah really, Oh and that was so

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<v Speaker 4>many years ago. Yeah, wow, but it's beautiful. It's a

0:24:39.796 --> 0:24:40.756
<v Speaker 4>beautiful album.

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<v Speaker 7>And and and Pops, he wrote the song there was

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<v Speaker 7>a star he did. Yeah, he wrote that and uh,

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<v Speaker 7>oh my god, Christmas. For a long time, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 7>find it we couldn't find it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, they had to reissue it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and and the Blind Boys they did some songs

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<v Speaker 7>from that album.

0:25:01.516 --> 0:25:04.716
<v Speaker 4>But I got to hear twenty five. That was my favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so maybewhere.

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<v Speaker 6>My May, Julie last all good September October.

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<v Speaker 4>No them, It wasn't last Mone of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, twenty fifth day of December.

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<v Speaker 4>Did I leave it or not?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I kept saying when we were recording it,

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<v Speaker 2>I kept saying the twenty second, twenty first day of December,

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<v Speaker 2>just because it rolled off my tongue Rock and my

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<v Speaker 2>drummer Brian.

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<v Speaker 4>But he goes Nora. I think that's when Larry. You

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<v Speaker 4>gotta get right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the twenty fifth day in December, not.

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<v Speaker 4>The twenty first day Jesus birthday.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, don't get that one right.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Yeah, and props brought that posa. Tell me when

0:25:47.796 --> 0:25:49.396
<v Speaker 4>was Jesus born.

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<v Speaker 6>Last mone of the year?

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<v Speaker 4>When was Jesus.

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<v Speaker 6>Born last one of the year? When was bone.

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<v Speaker 12>Last mona?

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<v Speaker 6>The yead you got January, March, April, and May, June, July,

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<v Speaker 6>all good, September, October? No nomboy. It was twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 6>del d seven. Boy, it was the last Money year,

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<v Speaker 6>Born by the Virgin Mary Last Money.

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<v Speaker 4>He was born by the.

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<v Speaker 9>Virgin Mary, Last Money, Born by the Virgin Mary Last.

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<v Speaker 13>Monny we got January, uh huh, February, yeah, mich April, May, June, July,

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<v Speaker 13>all Gus, September No, No, the Denbury It was the

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<v Speaker 13>twenty fifth de d somebody it was.

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<v Speaker 6>The last Money.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. Yeah, it was fun.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my goodness. Yeah, well we're having Christmas today.

0:27:18.196 --> 0:27:18.716
<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the end of that song, Last Mother the.

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<v Speaker 4>So how low can you go? How low can you go?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't go down? Oh my god, I didn't go down.

0:27:31.276 --> 0:27:35.676
<v Speaker 4>Whoa how low can you go? I can go down

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<v Speaker 4>very low?

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<v Speaker 6>That is amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>But did you like that when you were younger?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, my voice was so heavy always, and I

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<v Speaker 7>get I take it from my mother and my grandmother.

0:27:46.836 --> 0:27:47.996
<v Speaker 4>They had strong voices.

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<v Speaker 7>But I would Yeah, when I was a kid, it

0:27:50.516 --> 0:27:53.196
<v Speaker 7>was my voice is higher now when I get my

0:27:53.236 --> 0:27:54.236
<v Speaker 7>tonsils removed?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really, it got higher. Yeah that's so weird.

0:27:57.476 --> 0:28:02.956
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I would fight. Kids would tell me you

0:28:03.076 --> 0:28:04.076
<v Speaker 6>sound like a boy.

0:28:04.396 --> 0:28:04.716
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:28:04.876 --> 0:28:09.676
<v Speaker 7>And when we started traveling, if I called down for breakfast,

0:28:10.076 --> 0:28:10.796
<v Speaker 7>the lady.

0:28:10.556 --> 0:28:14.716
<v Speaker 6>Would say yes, mister Staples, Yes, sir, I said.

0:28:14.396 --> 0:28:16.396
<v Speaker 7>And I heard it so much the last time. I said,

0:28:16.396 --> 0:28:20.356
<v Speaker 7>I'm a lady, and they said, oh, I'm sorry, you know,

0:28:20.436 --> 0:28:25.116
<v Speaker 7>but yeah, it's always been uh. I've always had a

0:28:25.156 --> 0:28:30.476
<v Speaker 7>heavy voice. And and I used to sing bass our

0:28:30.516 --> 0:28:32.796
<v Speaker 7>first record. You know what I'm saying, Well, the will

0:28:32.796 --> 0:28:35.036
<v Speaker 7>the Willow who that's insane?

0:28:35.116 --> 0:28:36.036
<v Speaker 4>And how old were you?

0:28:36.556 --> 0:28:40.116
<v Speaker 7>I was a kid, I was like like nine years old.

0:28:40.396 --> 0:28:41.676
<v Speaker 4>That's when uncloudy Day came.

0:28:41.716 --> 0:28:45.956
<v Speaker 6>Oh no, and cloudy Day came when I was thirteen, okay.

0:28:45.596 --> 0:28:47.476
<v Speaker 4>Twelve thirteen. But but.

0:28:49.476 --> 0:28:51.676
<v Speaker 7>They wanted to record us when I was a kid,

0:28:51.876 --> 0:28:55.796
<v Speaker 7>and Pops wouldn't allow it. The president of VJ Records,

0:28:56.116 --> 0:28:59.236
<v Speaker 7>Vivian Carter, she called Daddy. She said, she says, Stap,

0:28:59.636 --> 0:29:03.356
<v Speaker 7>those kids, y'all need to be on record. And Pop said, well, Vivian,

0:29:03.796 --> 0:29:05.836
<v Speaker 7>I don't know nothing about those records.

0:29:05.996 --> 0:29:06.196
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:29:06.596 --> 0:29:09.356
<v Speaker 4>He was all of us were green, we did, you know?

0:29:09.476 --> 0:29:12.196
<v Speaker 7>And he said, I'm not gonna let my children get

0:29:12.236 --> 0:29:13.116
<v Speaker 7>on those records.

0:29:13.156 --> 0:29:15.596
<v Speaker 2>He was afraid because he was too young, right, he

0:29:15.636 --> 0:29:16.076
<v Speaker 2>didn't know.

0:29:16.076 --> 0:29:18.436
<v Speaker 4>What would business of it. Wow.

0:29:18.516 --> 0:29:22.636
<v Speaker 7>And my sister Yvonne, she would go, she would and

0:29:22.796 --> 0:29:25.596
<v Speaker 7>got books. She got this big read book, this business

0:29:25.596 --> 0:29:26.076
<v Speaker 7>of music.

0:29:26.356 --> 0:29:29.356
<v Speaker 4>She learned. She helped him a lot. Really people, Oh yeah, she.

0:29:29.436 --> 0:29:33.516
<v Speaker 2>Got that book and help you guys figure out that's incredible.

0:29:33.636 --> 0:29:36.476
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, she sure did. She stayed right with him, you know,

0:29:36.876 --> 0:29:39.956
<v Speaker 6>booking and and she.

0:29:40.316 --> 0:29:41.036
<v Speaker 4>Taught him a lot.

0:29:41.276 --> 0:29:46.036
<v Speaker 7>But also people like the Soulists and and uh sister

0:29:46.116 --> 0:29:49.596
<v Speaker 7>Maya Jackson, they were already recording and they would tell

0:29:49.676 --> 0:29:52.516
<v Speaker 7>Daddy different things. You know, they would tell him, you know,

0:29:52.996 --> 0:29:54.236
<v Speaker 7>what to do and how.

0:29:54.076 --> 0:29:55.796
<v Speaker 4>To do and watch out for this.

0:29:55.916 --> 0:29:59.996
<v Speaker 7>So when I was about twelve, perhaps called Vivian and

0:30:00.076 --> 0:30:03.196
<v Speaker 7>told her. He said, okay, Vivia, we'll make that recognized.

0:30:03.236 --> 0:30:03.876
<v Speaker 7>Let my children.

0:30:05.316 --> 0:30:09.916
<v Speaker 2>And after he'd read the book, Yeah, yeah, he felt good.

0:30:12.236 --> 0:30:16.996
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because Pops, Pops didn't know. You know, we didn't

0:30:17.116 --> 0:30:19.916
<v Speaker 7>We were just singing. He used to sing with an

0:30:19.956 --> 0:30:24.356
<v Speaker 7>all male group, six guys, and these guys wouldn't come

0:30:24.356 --> 0:30:27.116
<v Speaker 7>to rehearsal, so Poss would be frustrated.

0:30:27.156 --> 0:30:27.996
<v Speaker 4>He'd come home mad.

0:30:28.116 --> 0:30:28.316
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:30:29.076 --> 0:30:32.156
<v Speaker 7>He came home that third time and he went in

0:30:32.236 --> 0:30:36.156
<v Speaker 7>the closet, pulled out a little guitar that he had.

0:30:36.756 --> 0:30:39.076
<v Speaker 4>We didn't even know he had a guitar. He couldn't

0:30:39.116 --> 0:30:40.636
<v Speaker 4>play it. He could play it.

0:30:40.716 --> 0:30:43.316
<v Speaker 7>He couldn't have all the strings, but he could make

0:30:43.316 --> 0:30:46.396
<v Speaker 7>it sound good. And he told my Aunt Katy, he said,

0:30:46.516 --> 0:30:49.036
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna sing with my children. He called all of

0:30:49.116 --> 0:30:51.916
<v Speaker 7>us into the living room, sit us down on the

0:30:51.916 --> 0:30:56.196
<v Speaker 7>floor in the circle, and began giving us voices that

0:30:56.276 --> 0:30:58.876
<v Speaker 7>he and his sisters and brothers used to sing when

0:30:58.876 --> 0:30:59.996
<v Speaker 7>they were in Mississippi.

0:31:00.156 --> 0:31:01.276
<v Speaker 4>That's incredible.

0:31:01.516 --> 0:31:04.076
<v Speaker 7>People thought we were old people when we were We

0:31:04.116 --> 0:31:06.716
<v Speaker 7>would go places and they just knew we were old.

0:31:06.916 --> 0:31:08.476
<v Speaker 4>They heard us, and.

0:31:08.356 --> 0:31:10.916
<v Speaker 7>Because because we had a little radio fifteen minute radio

0:31:11.076 --> 0:31:15.036
<v Speaker 7>show Sunday morning, and we would sing, and they thought

0:31:15.076 --> 0:31:17.596
<v Speaker 7>we were old people because Pops, we were singing those

0:31:17.636 --> 0:31:21.316
<v Speaker 7>old voices like his sisters and brothers. We would walk

0:31:21.356 --> 0:31:27.556
<v Speaker 7>in little stairsteps and they said, that's the stables sing already.

0:31:27.796 --> 0:31:31.356
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, but that's yeah.

0:31:31.396 --> 0:31:35.556
<v Speaker 7>He would give us those voices and and that's how

0:31:35.596 --> 0:31:38.836
<v Speaker 7>we started singing. My Aunt Katie lived with us, okay,

0:31:38.956 --> 0:31:40.276
<v Speaker 7>and she came through one night.

0:31:40.356 --> 0:31:45.436
<v Speaker 4>She says, Chuck, y'all sound pretty good. And my church Sonday,

0:31:45.756 --> 0:31:48.076
<v Speaker 4>had you already been singing in church your whole lives?

0:31:48.236 --> 0:31:51.396
<v Speaker 7>No, yeah, we've been singing. We hadn't do as the family,

0:31:51.916 --> 0:31:55.676
<v Speaker 7>we hadn't been singing in church. We didn't start we

0:31:55.716 --> 0:32:00.116
<v Speaker 7>started doing programs at churches. But but uh, my sister

0:32:00.156 --> 0:32:02.316
<v Speaker 7>and brother were in the young people's choir.

0:32:02.876 --> 0:32:05.356
<v Speaker 4>I was too young to go. Okay, yeah, so you

0:32:05.716 --> 0:32:08.636
<v Speaker 4>didn't really sing much until he started doing it, until

0:32:08.636 --> 0:32:12.636
<v Speaker 4>he started using what's your order? There's five of you kids.

0:32:12.996 --> 0:32:15.676
<v Speaker 4>I'm the baby, you're the baby. Yeah, okay, bubbles, I

0:32:15.716 --> 0:32:17.316
<v Speaker 4>get it now. Yeah, I'm the baby.

0:32:17.476 --> 0:32:21.676
<v Speaker 6>Oh no, Cynthia, I was the baby for twelve years.

0:32:21.756 --> 0:32:25.156
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow. And my baby sister came along, and you know,

0:32:25.236 --> 0:32:26.316
<v Speaker 4>I didn't like how did that go?

0:32:28.996 --> 0:32:29.676
<v Speaker 6>I didn't like that.

0:32:29.916 --> 0:32:32.236
<v Speaker 7>I would be putting diapers on that baby and I

0:32:32.396 --> 0:32:35.316
<v Speaker 7>stick up. Mama said maybe you were sticking that.

0:32:35.676 --> 0:32:38.916
<v Speaker 4>I said no, ma'am mama.

0:32:39.356 --> 0:32:42.756
<v Speaker 7>But Cynthia and I became the best of friends. We

0:32:43.556 --> 0:32:47.156
<v Speaker 7>became the t I called her blessed, and she called

0:32:47.196 --> 0:32:51.956
<v Speaker 7>me Rabel. She couldn't say my name Rabel, and and

0:32:52.076 --> 0:32:55.996
<v Speaker 7>uh oh we she was, uh yeah, she was, she was.

0:32:56.676 --> 0:32:59.156
<v Speaker 7>I told Papa, I said, we gotta put Cynthia. She

0:32:59.356 --> 0:33:01.716
<v Speaker 7>would sing songs with us when we were in Chicago

0:33:02.356 --> 0:33:06.876
<v Speaker 7>at the different churches. You know, but yes, Cynthia, and see,

0:33:06.916 --> 0:33:10.116
<v Speaker 7>Mama and daddy they were just my mother was heavy set,

0:33:10.476 --> 0:33:12.236
<v Speaker 7>so I never knew she was pregnant, you.

0:33:12.276 --> 0:33:14.116
<v Speaker 4>Know, she just happened.

0:33:14.436 --> 0:33:17.676
<v Speaker 7>I didn't know where this baby came from. And they

0:33:17.716 --> 0:33:23.996
<v Speaker 7>told me, uh to pacify me. Uh because when my

0:33:24.076 --> 0:33:27.156
<v Speaker 7>mother came home, she didn't bring the baby. She had

0:33:27.156 --> 0:33:31.436
<v Speaker 7>to leave the baby there, and and and and Mama said,

0:33:31.636 --> 0:33:34.476
<v Speaker 7>you go with with with Roebuck, get to pick up

0:33:34.516 --> 0:33:36.556
<v Speaker 7>the baby. I said, what baby?

0:33:36.596 --> 0:33:39.516
<v Speaker 4>What baby? Oh, my gosh. And uh.

0:33:40.036 --> 0:33:42.316
<v Speaker 7>Then they started telling me that we had this baby,

0:33:42.356 --> 0:33:44.116
<v Speaker 7>and so they let me name her.

0:33:44.556 --> 0:33:46.956
<v Speaker 4>They did, Oh yeah, Cynthia.

0:33:46.596 --> 0:33:48.236
<v Speaker 6>Marie that.

0:33:51.876 --> 0:33:54.756
<v Speaker 4>I named her. Oh boy.

0:33:55.356 --> 0:33:59.396
<v Speaker 7>And see, because because what happened, my father he would

0:33:59.476 --> 0:34:02.436
<v Speaker 7>he would he wouldn't, he wouldn't pass me up. He

0:34:02.556 --> 0:34:06.476
<v Speaker 7>goes straight to that baby of bed or wherever she was.

0:34:06.876 --> 0:34:09.796
<v Speaker 7>And and blowing. He used to blow in my stomach,

0:34:10.076 --> 0:34:11.116
<v Speaker 7>make me laugh.

0:34:11.116 --> 0:34:13.436
<v Speaker 6>Tore me up in the air when he'd come from work.

0:34:13.476 --> 0:34:14.676
<v Speaker 6>And all that stopped.

0:34:14.996 --> 0:34:18.676
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, yeah, And so somebody should have been around

0:34:18.676 --> 0:34:20.996
<v Speaker 7>to talk to him, let him know he was supposed

0:34:21.036 --> 0:34:22.196
<v Speaker 7>to keep doing that.

0:34:22.196 --> 0:34:23.516
<v Speaker 4>That's interesting. Yeah.

0:34:23.636 --> 0:34:27.356
<v Speaker 2>I grew up an only child, so It's like just

0:34:27.916 --> 0:34:29.956
<v Speaker 2>I can't even imagine what it was like being in

0:34:29.956 --> 0:34:30.836
<v Speaker 2>a family, Like.

0:34:30.796 --> 0:34:33.996
<v Speaker 6>Oh wow, yeah, it was good being in them.

0:34:34.516 --> 0:34:39.116
<v Speaker 7>We we uh, we would have we would disagree, we

0:34:39.116 --> 0:34:43.596
<v Speaker 7>didn't have any We fuss sometime, but Mama would tell us,

0:34:43.876 --> 0:34:47.716
<v Speaker 7>don't do that. You have to love your sister, and

0:34:47.716 --> 0:34:51.796
<v Speaker 7>and that's your sister. And you all make up apologizing me.

0:34:52.556 --> 0:34:55.876
<v Speaker 7>But you know, Yvonne and Cleatee they would do most.

0:34:55.716 --> 0:34:58.156
<v Speaker 4>Of the argience. Oh yeah, because they were the close

0:34:58.356 --> 0:35:00.836
<v Speaker 4>older That makes sense.

0:35:00.916 --> 0:35:05.836
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whenever you guys were traveling, when how old were

0:35:05.876 --> 0:35:09.956
<v Speaker 2>you when you started really traveling around and touring.

0:35:10.076 --> 0:35:12.156
<v Speaker 4>I guess, oh, yes, we were touring.

0:35:12.276 --> 0:35:13.516
<v Speaker 6>Were how old were you.

0:35:13.476 --> 0:35:14.036
<v Speaker 4>In that start?

0:35:15.276 --> 0:35:18.716
<v Speaker 6>I was, I was like about thirteen.

0:35:19.036 --> 0:35:19.396
<v Speaker 8>Wow.

0:35:19.516 --> 0:35:22.036
<v Speaker 4>Uncloudy Day was a hit. It was a hit, and

0:35:22.156 --> 0:35:24.956
<v Speaker 4>you were thirteen years old. Uncloudy Day.

0:35:25.236 --> 0:35:28.476
<v Speaker 7>This woman called pop, She says, Staples, this record is

0:35:28.516 --> 0:35:31.716
<v Speaker 7>selling like an R and B. And it turned out

0:35:31.716 --> 0:35:35.196
<v Speaker 7>that it was the first gospel record to sell a million.

0:35:35.556 --> 0:35:36.836
<v Speaker 6>That's insane. It was.

0:35:37.236 --> 0:35:39.276
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it was the first.

0:35:39.036 --> 0:35:41.676
<v Speaker 6>Gospel and and and uh.

0:35:42.116 --> 0:35:44.036
<v Speaker 4>But but we would we would.

0:35:43.756 --> 0:35:47.156
<v Speaker 7>Be we would go to down South, we would go

0:35:47.236 --> 0:35:52.196
<v Speaker 7>to Milwaukee, Gary, all around Chicago and sing and and.

0:35:53.596 --> 0:35:56.276
<v Speaker 6>People would bet the disc jockey.

0:35:56.356 --> 0:35:58.356
<v Speaker 4>When we went to New Orleans.

0:35:58.156 --> 0:36:00.996
<v Speaker 7>Memphis, the disc jockey would get on the radio and say,

0:36:01.316 --> 0:36:04.916
<v Speaker 7>this is little Navy staple. This little girl is singing this.

0:36:05.356 --> 0:36:07.476
<v Speaker 7>People would bet that I was not a little girl.

0:36:07.836 --> 0:36:09.356
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because you had that deep.

0:36:09.196 --> 0:36:14.196
<v Speaker 7>I'm saying, well will will oh? Yeah, lord, they tell

0:36:14.316 --> 0:36:16.436
<v Speaker 7>me now, And I.

0:36:18.076 --> 0:36:18.836
<v Speaker 4>Got home.

0:36:19.716 --> 0:36:23.476
<v Speaker 6>I got a home, and you know, I'm a little girl,

0:36:23.556 --> 0:36:24.516
<v Speaker 6>little skinny girl.

0:36:24.596 --> 0:36:27.676
<v Speaker 2>And you're short now, so you're probably I was even shorter.

0:36:29.116 --> 0:36:32.996
<v Speaker 7>I was even shorter. But but but yeah, they would bet.

0:36:33.316 --> 0:36:35.396
<v Speaker 7>And what we would do, we would fool the people.

0:36:37.236 --> 0:36:40.196
<v Speaker 7>We would sing uncodly dady down in harmony.

0:36:40.516 --> 0:36:40.836
<v Speaker 6>Whoa.

0:36:41.156 --> 0:36:44.476
<v Speaker 7>They tell me all of that and then get to

0:36:44.516 --> 0:36:45.876
<v Speaker 7>the end of it, and I come.

0:36:45.716 --> 0:36:47.876
<v Speaker 4>In with, well, will will oh.

0:36:48.716 --> 0:36:52.236
<v Speaker 7>So what happened was my brother at that people would

0:36:52.236 --> 0:36:56.116
<v Speaker 7>be sitting on they all of these people that bet

0:36:56.836 --> 0:36:58.996
<v Speaker 7>that I am not a little girl, and all of

0:36:59.036 --> 0:37:02.916
<v Speaker 7>a sudden, perverse move my brother like he's gonna say,

0:37:02.956 --> 0:37:04.116
<v Speaker 7>and you hear the people, I.

0:37:04.076 --> 0:37:06.316
<v Speaker 4>Told you that wasn't no little girl. I told you

0:37:06.396 --> 0:37:12.876
<v Speaker 4>that one. And I'm easy thene how easy to the mic?

0:37:13.156 --> 0:37:16.596
<v Speaker 7>And they look up and it's really a little girls. Oh,

0:37:16.996 --> 0:37:18.676
<v Speaker 7>we had so much fun with it.

0:37:18.756 --> 0:37:22.476
<v Speaker 2>But that's so fun to travel with your family. Did

0:37:22.476 --> 0:37:23.756
<v Speaker 2>it ever get sticky?

0:37:24.196 --> 0:37:24.436
<v Speaker 4>Nah?

0:37:24.596 --> 0:37:29.396
<v Speaker 2>No, you always anything even throughout through he got older.

0:37:29.316 --> 0:37:30.476
<v Speaker 4>All of it, all of it.

0:37:30.756 --> 0:37:34.676
<v Speaker 7>The only only thing Evonne Clete would argue about saying

0:37:34.876 --> 0:37:36.196
<v Speaker 7>was what to wear.

0:37:37.396 --> 0:37:38.836
<v Speaker 4>One of them wanted to wear this, and one of

0:37:38.916 --> 0:37:39.796
<v Speaker 4>them wanted to wear that.

0:37:40.116 --> 0:37:42.796
<v Speaker 7>And see, because you know my brother he left the

0:37:42.876 --> 0:37:47.436
<v Speaker 7>group in nineteen sixty nine. It hurt me so bad, really,

0:37:47.636 --> 0:37:51.556
<v Speaker 7>because Purvis and I we had this clap. Nobody could

0:37:51.556 --> 0:37:56.316
<v Speaker 7>do that clap the way we would. And he just

0:37:56.716 --> 0:38:00.396
<v Speaker 7>got grown a man, you know me, and they get

0:38:00.436 --> 0:38:02.036
<v Speaker 7>tired of doing what their father.

0:38:02.676 --> 0:38:04.036
<v Speaker 4>Tell them to do. You know.

0:38:04.116 --> 0:38:06.716
<v Speaker 7>He wanted to be his own man. Because Pop's asking.

0:38:06.756 --> 0:38:08.876
<v Speaker 7>Pop said, perr, you sure you don't want to just

0:38:08.916 --> 0:38:13.036
<v Speaker 7>take a leave of accent, No, daddy, nope, I quit done.

0:38:14.396 --> 0:38:19.116
<v Speaker 7>And just as he quit, I'll take you there, hit Oh,

0:38:19.796 --> 0:38:22.676
<v Speaker 7>And and his friends would would mess with him.

0:38:23.036 --> 0:38:25.116
<v Speaker 4>He go into one.

0:38:24.996 --> 0:38:27.236
<v Speaker 7>Of their bars or whatever, and they put a quarter

0:38:27.276 --> 0:38:29.276
<v Speaker 7>in the juke box and play I'll take you there.

0:38:29.836 --> 0:38:30.916
<v Speaker 4>Said, y'all shouldn't do that.

0:38:32.516 --> 0:38:36.396
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but he did all right he he he managed

0:38:36.396 --> 0:38:37.916
<v Speaker 6>the emotions.

0:38:37.276 --> 0:38:39.876
<v Speaker 4>For a while. Oh wow, so he got into the business. Yeah, oh,

0:38:39.916 --> 0:38:41.916
<v Speaker 4>he was still in the business. He was still on

0:38:42.156 --> 0:38:44.396
<v Speaker 4>the other side of it, right right.

0:38:44.836 --> 0:38:47.956
<v Speaker 7>They were They were gospel singers at first, and they

0:38:47.996 --> 0:38:52.276
<v Speaker 7>were our little friends, the hutcheson Sunbeams. I mean, they

0:38:52.316 --> 0:38:55.356
<v Speaker 7>wanted to sing R and B and so that's when

0:38:55.356 --> 0:38:59.316
<v Speaker 7>Purvis took them down the stacks, got him a choreographer,

0:39:00.236 --> 0:39:01.716
<v Speaker 7>tarts steps.

0:39:02.076 --> 0:39:03.516
<v Speaker 4>They had some hits then.

0:39:03.636 --> 0:39:04.436
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:39:04.556 --> 0:39:06.316
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that's amazing.

0:39:06.916 --> 0:39:10.556
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's amazing to me how close you guys

0:39:10.996 --> 0:39:13.836
<v Speaker 2>stayed and that there was let you know, there could.

0:39:13.636 --> 0:39:14.636
<v Speaker 4>Have been a lot of drama there.

0:39:14.676 --> 0:39:17.396
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, oh yeah. But but but but my mother

0:39:18.156 --> 0:39:20.796
<v Speaker 6>wouldn't allow it. Mama and Daddy, you.

0:39:20.756 --> 0:39:23.676
<v Speaker 4>Know, they just taught us. They they taught us. We

0:39:23.716 --> 0:39:24.996
<v Speaker 4>grew up loving one another.

0:39:25.156 --> 0:39:29.796
<v Speaker 2>That's so special though, and it's it really feels unique.

0:39:29.836 --> 0:39:33.716
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, you're an only child, but I

0:39:33.756 --> 0:39:36.276
<v Speaker 2>do have a half sister who's two years younger than me,

0:39:36.356 --> 0:39:39.716
<v Speaker 2>but we both grew up separately, so we didn't know

0:39:39.756 --> 0:39:41.996
<v Speaker 2>each other till we were a little older. Oh wow,

0:39:42.556 --> 0:39:46.076
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, only child. That sounds like a party to me.

0:39:46.556 --> 0:39:49.516
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Oh my god.

0:39:49.596 --> 0:39:54.196
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because some are you spoiled? Of course you are.

0:39:55.076 --> 0:39:57.476
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but if you ask my mother, she

0:39:57.516 --> 0:39:58.756
<v Speaker 2>would tell you a different answer.

0:39:59.396 --> 0:40:01.356
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know I met your mom, Yeah you did.

0:40:01.756 --> 0:40:02.516
<v Speaker 4>She's very tall.

0:40:03.476 --> 0:40:09.716
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh man, she is tall. She's tall, yeah, and

0:40:09.796 --> 0:40:12.196
<v Speaker 2>I'm short. She's five to ten. I'm five to one.

0:40:12.756 --> 0:40:15.276
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So I didn't really.

0:40:15.316 --> 0:40:17.316
<v Speaker 2>I might have been spoiled, but I never messed with

0:40:17.356 --> 0:40:19.836
<v Speaker 2>her like I was a good kid, because I didn't

0:40:19.876 --> 0:40:20.596
<v Speaker 2>want her to get mad.

0:40:20.716 --> 0:40:21.916
<v Speaker 4>She was so oh yeah.

0:40:21.996 --> 0:40:25.076
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, she was tough, and by her being so tall,

0:40:25.076 --> 0:40:26.516
<v Speaker 6>you say I've been, I messed with her.

0:40:26.636 --> 0:40:29.196
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. But all you had to do was leap up.

0:40:30.116 --> 0:40:33.436
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I don't think that would have flown with her.

0:40:34.436 --> 0:40:39.236
<v Speaker 4>You did the right thing. Listen to mom. Mom knows best.

0:40:39.396 --> 0:40:43.676
<v Speaker 7>I try, Yeah, you try try.

0:40:44.316 --> 0:40:45.196
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

0:40:45.476 --> 0:40:49.516
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I was wondering. Do you remember the first

0:40:49.556 --> 0:40:53.156
<v Speaker 2>song you sang with Pops when he was teaching you?

0:40:53.876 --> 0:40:54.756
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

0:40:55.116 --> 0:40:59.396
<v Speaker 7>The very first song my father taught us was what

0:40:59.596 --> 0:41:00.356
<v Speaker 7>the Circle Beyond?

0:41:00.556 --> 0:41:01.956
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I love that.

0:41:01.956 --> 0:41:04.436
<v Speaker 6>One of the Circle Beyond broke and all that was

0:41:04.476 --> 0:41:08.236
<v Speaker 6>his faith. And on our records we recorded it about

0:41:08.276 --> 0:41:11.676
<v Speaker 6>four or five times, but on the record Pops is singing,

0:41:12.076 --> 0:41:14.876
<v Speaker 6>and I love to hear Pop sing because he was

0:41:14.916 --> 0:41:19.276
<v Speaker 6>so smooth. You know, he was a singer like you.

0:41:19.676 --> 0:41:19.996
<v Speaker 5>He was.

0:41:20.156 --> 0:41:21.236
<v Speaker 6>He was laid back.

0:41:21.756 --> 0:41:26.836
<v Speaker 7>Look, Sladh Stone came to Pops one day and said, hey, Pop,

0:41:27.676 --> 0:41:30.916
<v Speaker 7>give me the bag, and Pop say what you're talking about?

0:41:31.316 --> 0:41:32.916
<v Speaker 4>He said, come on, mom, give me the bag. I

0:41:32.956 --> 0:41:33.556
<v Speaker 4>know you got.

0:41:33.436 --> 0:41:38.076
<v Speaker 2>It because he was so laid back.

0:41:38.196 --> 0:41:40.356
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, they thought.

0:41:43.756 --> 0:41:47.156
<v Speaker 6>And purpose my brother had to tell Daddy what I

0:41:47.396 --> 0:41:51.436
<v Speaker 6>was talking about. And Pop he says, like, you come,

0:41:51.436 --> 0:41:54.356
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna choke you boy. You know I don't do that.

0:41:54.476 --> 0:41:59.556
<v Speaker 4>Mass too funny. Yeah, wow, it was so funny.

0:41:59.716 --> 0:42:02.236
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because they would all talk about how.

0:42:02.156 --> 0:42:05.676
<v Speaker 7>Laid back Pop sing, you know, and and his voice

0:42:05.756 --> 0:42:06.756
<v Speaker 7>is just flowed.

0:42:07.036 --> 0:42:07.476
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:42:07.556 --> 0:42:12.636
<v Speaker 6>But when he taught us circle be Unbroken and and

0:42:12.636 --> 0:42:15.676
<v Speaker 6>and we have sang it. We sang it with Johnny

0:42:15.716 --> 0:42:20.516
<v Speaker 6>Cash on his television show. It was the Staples family

0:42:20.596 --> 0:42:23.596
<v Speaker 6>and the Carter family. That was years ago.

0:42:23.676 --> 0:42:26.116
<v Speaker 4>That must have been fun. It was fun. Yeah.

0:42:26.316 --> 0:42:30.436
<v Speaker 7>It was for one of one of his specials, you know.

0:42:30.676 --> 0:42:31.876
<v Speaker 4>Those TV special Yeah.

0:42:32.036 --> 0:42:36.796
<v Speaker 7>I love yeah, but but and I sing it all

0:42:36.836 --> 0:42:42.836
<v Speaker 7>that's on my on my list on our show and

0:42:42.876 --> 0:42:49.636
<v Speaker 7>perhaps may uh, because we look at us as a family.

0:42:49.836 --> 0:42:50.756
<v Speaker 4>That's our circle.

0:42:51.196 --> 0:42:54.596
<v Speaker 7>And he put us in a circle when he started

0:42:54.596 --> 0:42:56.276
<v Speaker 7>giving us the voices to sing.

0:42:56.436 --> 0:42:59.116
<v Speaker 4>It was I can just picture it. You're sitting down

0:42:59.316 --> 0:43:00.236
<v Speaker 4>in the circle.

0:43:00.676 --> 0:43:04.396
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm gonna sing some of it for you.

0:43:05.076 --> 0:43:08.996
<v Speaker 4>You sing it to you know. I don't know what

0:43:09.196 --> 0:43:09.636
<v Speaker 4>key I.

0:43:09.596 --> 0:43:10.796
<v Speaker 6>Sing in now you know that.

0:43:10.876 --> 0:43:11.716
<v Speaker 14>I was thinking, g.

0:43:14.476 --> 0:43:16.236
<v Speaker 6>I was stegning too low?

0:43:16.876 --> 0:43:17.156
<v Speaker 5>Huh?

0:43:17.316 --> 0:43:18.036
<v Speaker 4>Is that too low?

0:43:18.356 --> 0:43:18.436
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:43:19.196 --> 0:43:21.276
<v Speaker 4>That's good. What you say, key that is?

0:43:21.436 --> 0:43:25.116
<v Speaker 7>That's g okay, that's a shame. I don't know what

0:43:25.316 --> 0:43:26.236
<v Speaker 7>ky I sing at.

0:43:26.636 --> 0:43:29.516
<v Speaker 4>No, it's not probably has changed over the years.

0:43:30.076 --> 0:43:32.676
<v Speaker 7>I'd probably a yeah, I sing in some different keys

0:43:32.676 --> 0:43:33.676
<v Speaker 7>though in our shoulders.

0:43:34.356 --> 0:43:36.476
<v Speaker 4>But it's all right. I don't need to know what

0:43:36.556 --> 0:43:38.756
<v Speaker 4>yeah I say. I can do it in any key.

0:43:38.956 --> 0:43:39.756
<v Speaker 4>You just tell me.

0:43:40.316 --> 0:43:42.996
<v Speaker 6>Oh, no, you were I think that was good. I

0:43:43.156 --> 0:43:45.716
<v Speaker 6>was stinning and that's where you were.

0:43:48.916 --> 0:43:51.316
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:43:51.476 --> 0:43:58.356
<v Speaker 6>And on a cold and cloud any day.

0:44:00.636 --> 0:44:06.396
<v Speaker 4>When I saw the hers come rolling.

0:44:07.716 --> 0:44:16.076
<v Speaker 6>Or to care my mother the away, Well, it's a circle.

0:44:17.996 --> 0:44:19.956
<v Speaker 6>Be row can.

0:44:21.476 --> 0:44:26.556
<v Speaker 8>By and by lord by and bye.

0:44:28.596 --> 0:44:31.316
<v Speaker 4>Here's a bed.

0:44:31.956 --> 0:44:40.316
<v Speaker 6>Hold away in the sky Lord and the scot.

0:44:46.116 --> 0:44:46.236
<v Speaker 11>Wo.

0:44:46.596 --> 0:44:47.796
<v Speaker 4>I told the.

0:44:49.876 --> 0:45:00.956
<v Speaker 6>Under take, please drive slow cause it's lady that you

0:45:01.356 --> 0:45:08.316
<v Speaker 6>haul land. Oh why to see her go.

0:45:11.196 --> 0:45:17.276
<v Speaker 8>Will the circles being broken.

0:45:18.356 --> 0:45:26.156
<v Speaker 5>By and by Lord, by bye, there's a.

0:45:26.476 --> 0:45:38.116
<v Speaker 6>Bed home away in the sky Lord in the sky.

0:45:40.356 --> 0:45:46.356
<v Speaker 6>I will follower close behind her.

0:45:47.476 --> 0:45:56.316
<v Speaker 11>Try to hold up and be brave, but I could not.

0:45:58.196 --> 0:46:00.556
<v Speaker 4>Pull my side role.

0:46:01.996 --> 0:46:11.396
<v Speaker 6>Winner laid her in the grain in the circle.

0:46:12.596 --> 0:46:14.236
<v Speaker 4>Be broken.

0:46:16.156 --> 0:46:21.036
<v Speaker 15>Bye and bye, bye and bye.

0:46:23.436 --> 0:46:31.836
<v Speaker 6>There's a bad uh my way in the sky.

0:46:32.596 --> 0:46:41.876
<v Speaker 16>Lord in the sky in the sky, love him the

0:46:42.236 --> 0:46:53.516
<v Speaker 16>sky in the sky, Lord in the sky.

0:46:54.876 --> 0:47:00.596
<v Speaker 4>Oh you sound just like Cleedy?

0:47:00.876 --> 0:47:07.036
<v Speaker 6>Oh really? Oh yeah? I Cleedy in your foot girl,

0:47:07.076 --> 0:47:08.516
<v Speaker 6>don't stop me crying.

0:47:10.236 --> 0:47:13.036
<v Speaker 7>I tell you my sister Kleedye. She had the best

0:47:13.636 --> 0:47:16.316
<v Speaker 7>best soprano voice.

0:47:16.436 --> 0:47:20.956
<v Speaker 4>Really so you were low and she was high. Yeah. Yeah,

0:47:21.356 --> 0:47:22.276
<v Speaker 4>so you come from it.

0:47:22.316 --> 0:47:26.316
<v Speaker 6>And I credit her for the Staples singer sound.

0:47:26.476 --> 0:47:30.276
<v Speaker 7>Really oh yeah, oh wow. She would shoot and look.

0:47:31.116 --> 0:47:37.836
<v Speaker 7>Aretha would be recording and she tell her sister Carolyn, Now, Carolyn,

0:47:37.916 --> 0:47:38.956
<v Speaker 7>want to sound like cleother.

0:47:39.196 --> 0:47:42.476
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, that's amazing. Yeah.

0:47:42.596 --> 0:47:46.836
<v Speaker 7>And and and Carolyn was saying, Carolyn told me about it.

0:47:47.116 --> 0:47:49.716
<v Speaker 6>She said, maybe's I told her I can't sound like.

0:47:49.676 --> 0:47:55.076
<v Speaker 7>Cleop She was mad about it, mad oh yeah, but

0:47:55.436 --> 0:48:00.156
<v Speaker 7>it's a different Pops give Cley like a minor. She

0:48:00.196 --> 0:48:05.156
<v Speaker 7>would go like, I know what I'm talking about, minor

0:48:05.916 --> 0:48:06.876
<v Speaker 7>in some places.

0:48:06.916 --> 0:48:12.196
<v Speaker 4>And but her boys, if you on all of our.

0:48:12.076 --> 0:48:16.676
<v Speaker 7>Old stuff where Coletia is singing, her voice stands out,

0:48:16.996 --> 0:48:22.716
<v Speaker 7>and and and her her soprano, and Popsa's guitar, that's

0:48:22.756 --> 0:48:23.916
<v Speaker 7>the staple of singers.

0:48:24.236 --> 0:48:26.476
<v Speaker 4>I love his guitar so much.

0:48:28.516 --> 0:48:32.396
<v Speaker 2>And he cool taught himself, well, that's what's good about it.

0:48:32.396 --> 0:48:37.316
<v Speaker 2>It's just feeling right. It's simple, but it's it's got

0:48:37.316 --> 0:48:37.676
<v Speaker 2>the thing.

0:48:37.836 --> 0:48:40.876
<v Speaker 4>That's what it's got, the sound, feeling right.

0:48:41.036 --> 0:48:43.516
<v Speaker 2>When did he how did he get that electric sound?

0:48:43.516 --> 0:48:44.916
<v Speaker 2>Do you know how that came about?

0:48:45.156 --> 0:48:45.396
<v Speaker 4>Pop?

0:48:45.516 --> 0:48:47.636
<v Speaker 6>I remember when he got that tremolo.

0:48:47.356 --> 0:48:51.156
<v Speaker 4>Because that wasn't typical then, no gospel music.

0:48:51.236 --> 0:48:55.716
<v Speaker 7>No and and and and some preachers, some preachers didn't

0:48:55.716 --> 0:48:58.396
<v Speaker 7>want to contemplay his guitar in the church. And Pop

0:48:58.476 --> 0:49:01.396
<v Speaker 7>said to let him know, look, you read your Bible

0:49:02.436 --> 0:49:06.676
<v Speaker 7>string instruments, saying the Bible, you know the heart. The

0:49:06.956 --> 0:49:11.196
<v Speaker 7>Pop would name them all. I guess, uh, what's that

0:49:11.316 --> 0:49:14.236
<v Speaker 7>other one? I can't call the name of it. But

0:49:14.236 --> 0:49:17.556
<v Speaker 7>but but and and and we just wouldn't go to

0:49:17.596 --> 0:49:19.716
<v Speaker 7>the church if they wouldn't let Pops playing his guitar.

0:49:20.396 --> 0:49:24.636
<v Speaker 7>But he learned from a blues man, Charlie Patton.

0:49:24.756 --> 0:49:25.916
<v Speaker 6>Okay, see he.

0:49:26.076 --> 0:49:31.836
<v Speaker 7>Pop Pops was on this farm, Patrick Practice Farm in Mississippi,

0:49:32.636 --> 0:49:35.076
<v Speaker 7>and this man was hollering with a lot of the

0:49:35.116 --> 0:49:39.716
<v Speaker 7>blues singers were on this this farm, and and and uh.

0:49:39.956 --> 0:49:43.316
<v Speaker 7>Pops would tell us how this man, Charlie Patton would

0:49:43.356 --> 0:49:48.276
<v Speaker 7>be playing and and look, we didn't know for years.

0:49:48.876 --> 0:49:52.436
<v Speaker 7>While we were singing gospel, our father was playing the

0:49:52.436 --> 0:49:53.076
<v Speaker 7>blues on.

0:49:53.076 --> 0:49:55.836
<v Speaker 4>His Yeah, that's what it is. It's the marriage of

0:49:55.876 --> 0:49:59.556
<v Speaker 4>those two things. And that made it so unique, right

0:49:59.876 --> 0:50:00.956
<v Speaker 4>right right.

0:50:01.036 --> 0:50:04.796
<v Speaker 7>But he he he, he went to the guitar store

0:50:04.836 --> 0:50:06.796
<v Speaker 7>one day and he came back.

0:50:06.596 --> 0:50:07.476
<v Speaker 4>With this trimolo.

0:50:08.316 --> 0:50:10.916
<v Speaker 7>He said, y'all, let said listen to this, and he

0:50:11.036 --> 0:50:16.236
<v Speaker 7>was drum and Elvis Presley told me one time, the

0:50:16.316 --> 0:50:19.916
<v Speaker 7>first time, yeah, the only time I ever saw him.

0:50:19.916 --> 0:50:21.876
<v Speaker 7>And the first time I ever saw him, we were

0:50:21.916 --> 0:50:24.276
<v Speaker 7>in Memphis and I was standing on the side.

0:50:24.316 --> 0:50:27.476
<v Speaker 6>It was a starlight review outside.

0:50:27.676 --> 0:50:30.436
<v Speaker 7>And I was standing over in the wing, and all

0:50:30.476 --> 0:50:33.316
<v Speaker 7>of a sudden he come in with one of his partners.

0:50:33.516 --> 0:50:36.756
<v Speaker 7>They got these leather jackets on like they've been riding motorcycles,

0:50:37.196 --> 0:50:41.316
<v Speaker 7>and and and we had sang and and uh. He

0:50:41.396 --> 0:50:44.756
<v Speaker 7>told me, he said, I like the way your father

0:50:44.796 --> 0:50:49.116
<v Speaker 7>played that guitar. I said, well, thank you. He said, yeah,

0:50:49.316 --> 0:50:50.676
<v Speaker 7>he plays a nervous.

0:50:50.276 --> 0:50:54.796
<v Speaker 4>Guitar, A nervous guitar. He called it a nervous guitar.

0:50:54.916 --> 0:51:00.476
<v Speaker 4>What does that mean? Because of them? That was a

0:51:00.516 --> 0:51:01.356
<v Speaker 4>good expression.

0:51:01.396 --> 0:51:05.916
<v Speaker 7>I said, well, I've never heard that before, A nervous guitar. Yeah,

0:51:06.116 --> 0:51:09.076
<v Speaker 7>that's what I'll never forget. And that was my meeting

0:51:09.316 --> 0:51:12.956
<v Speaker 7>with Elvis Presley. I didn't know who one of the guys,

0:51:13.356 --> 0:51:16.996
<v Speaker 7>David Ruffin who sing who later sang with the Temptation

0:51:17.516 --> 0:51:18.876
<v Speaker 7>he was singing with a gospel.

0:51:19.116 --> 0:51:20.476
<v Speaker 4>He told me, he said, maybe you know who that

0:51:20.516 --> 0:51:23.356
<v Speaker 4>guy what you was talking to? I said no. He

0:51:23.396 --> 0:51:27.876
<v Speaker 4>said blue Sways shoes. I said, I said, that's him.

0:51:28.476 --> 0:51:31.116
<v Speaker 4>That's the way he would let me know because of

0:51:31.156 --> 0:51:31.956
<v Speaker 4>blue sweight shoes.

0:51:32.036 --> 0:51:32.316
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:51:32.956 --> 0:51:35.316
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, Pops played a nervous guitar.

0:51:35.476 --> 0:51:36.876
<v Speaker 4>Did he laugh at that description?

0:51:37.076 --> 0:51:37.276
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

0:51:37.396 --> 0:51:39.876
<v Speaker 4>Did he laugh? He did? He laugh?

0:51:40.196 --> 0:51:42.276
<v Speaker 6>He told me, maybe, why didn't you call me over

0:51:42.276 --> 0:51:44.436
<v Speaker 6>to let me me? I said, Daddy, I didn't really

0:51:44.516 --> 0:51:48.196
<v Speaker 6>know who he was. I was just a David told

0:51:48.196 --> 0:51:50.516
<v Speaker 6>me who he was. Yeah, that was beautiful.

0:51:51.036 --> 0:51:54.076
<v Speaker 7>That's a good expression of him though. Of Pops is

0:51:54.196 --> 0:51:57.396
<v Speaker 7>guitar nervous guitar because it does.

0:51:59.316 --> 0:52:00.916
<v Speaker 4>That's just the funniest thing I've heard.

0:52:01.036 --> 0:52:05.916
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, but but yeah, Daddy, that's that's when he

0:52:07.276 --> 0:52:09.876
<v Speaker 7>learned how to play his guitar. And he was always

0:52:09.876 --> 0:52:12.836
<v Speaker 7>playing it in the house, you know, after he'd let

0:52:12.876 --> 0:52:15.956
<v Speaker 7>us know we had a guitar, because we didn't know

0:52:16.156 --> 0:52:18.756
<v Speaker 7>until those guys wouldn't come to rehearsal.

0:52:19.276 --> 0:52:21.476
<v Speaker 4>And he decided he probably.

0:52:21.196 --> 0:52:23.476
<v Speaker 7>We probably wouldn't be any Staples singers if they had

0:52:23.516 --> 0:52:24.516
<v Speaker 7>they had come to rehearsal.

0:52:24.596 --> 0:52:29.156
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I thank them wow for being not not there,

0:52:29.396 --> 0:52:31.596
<v Speaker 4>not not serious about this.

0:52:32.196 --> 0:52:34.196
<v Speaker 7>They were the trumpet to and they had a good

0:52:34.236 --> 0:52:39.476
<v Speaker 7>group too, Possle singing lead and uh and Pops had

0:52:39.476 --> 0:52:43.116
<v Speaker 7>a voice. He would he he never went into his

0:52:43.236 --> 0:52:45.476
<v Speaker 7>false settle on the Staple singers.

0:52:46.636 --> 0:52:50.116
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, he would go and he would tell me

0:52:50.356 --> 0:52:54.156
<v Speaker 6>what how they do it up in heaven today and

0:52:54.196 --> 0:52:58.156
<v Speaker 6>then he goes pee thereby there like a river.

0:52:58.916 --> 0:53:03.196
<v Speaker 7>They say, oh possible bad. Yeah, And I recorded a

0:53:03.196 --> 0:53:05.196
<v Speaker 7>song with Tweety that's what.

0:53:05.116 --> 0:53:08.516
<v Speaker 6>Are they doing in heaven. I'm not singing it like.

0:53:08.516 --> 0:53:11.676
<v Speaker 4>Pops though, Well that's okay. You sing like you. I

0:53:11.756 --> 0:53:12.316
<v Speaker 4>thing like me.

0:53:12.436 --> 0:53:14.076
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I sing like me.

0:53:16.076 --> 0:53:20.276
<v Speaker 7>I'm so grateful to be talking to you, little lady.

0:53:19.876 --> 0:53:20.956
<v Speaker 6>You are.

0:53:21.996 --> 0:53:27.396
<v Speaker 7>You are so different from anybody else out here.

0:53:27.636 --> 0:53:29.836
<v Speaker 4>Really, Yeah, nobody.

0:53:29.476 --> 0:53:30.076
<v Speaker 7>Sounding like you.

0:53:30.196 --> 0:53:34.356
<v Speaker 6>Nobody get me up break But that's what show.

0:53:35.156 --> 0:53:38.436
<v Speaker 4>But that's what you want, right to be, to be different, right,

0:53:38.996 --> 0:53:40.636
<v Speaker 4>and but but I'm just honored.

0:53:41.156 --> 0:53:44.636
<v Speaker 7>You know, dude, I never thought I would meet you

0:53:45.116 --> 0:53:46.996
<v Speaker 7>when I first heard you on the radio.

0:53:48.756 --> 0:53:54.756
<v Speaker 4>Don't know why. I said, listen to who is she?

0:53:54.996 --> 0:53:57.636
<v Speaker 4>Who is she? I'm still figuring it out.

0:53:57.956 --> 0:54:01.636
<v Speaker 6>Yes, well no, well you you are a giant. You

0:54:01.756 --> 0:54:03.596
<v Speaker 6>a tiny little lady.

0:54:03.796 --> 0:54:07.236
<v Speaker 4>You are a giant. I tell you, I love it.

0:54:07.356 --> 0:54:12.476
<v Speaker 7>And when I came to your show in the Red Rocks.

0:54:12.396 --> 0:54:15.596
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we did a show together. Yes, Yes, that was fun.

0:54:15.876 --> 0:54:16.836
<v Speaker 4>I started it off.

0:54:16.956 --> 0:54:18.516
<v Speaker 6>I warmed them up for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You killed it, and I was nervous to go on out.

0:54:22.916 --> 0:54:25.156
<v Speaker 2>I was, of course.

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<v Speaker 7>I those people, all those people that came out for you,

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<v Speaker 7>and and and I noticed you were doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Some songs that I hadn't heard.

0:54:33.196 --> 0:54:35.796
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and every time you would hit one of those songs,

0:54:35.956 --> 0:54:37.876
<v Speaker 7>the crowd would roar, that's.

0:54:37.716 --> 0:54:40.796
<v Speaker 2>So funny, that's what Well, that's one of my favorite

0:54:40.796 --> 0:54:44.236
<v Speaker 2>audiences at Red Rocks, and they're always very loving.

0:54:44.876 --> 0:54:47.796
<v Speaker 4>You play there many times, right, Yes, yeah, we.

0:54:47.796 --> 0:54:54.396
<v Speaker 7>Have we have oh with different people. Yours was the best.

0:54:54.476 --> 0:54:55.236
<v Speaker 7>We had fun.

0:54:55.916 --> 0:54:56.676
<v Speaker 4>We have fun.

0:55:03.476 --> 0:55:08.196
<v Speaker 2>We had recorded a song together that Pete Ran wrote.

0:55:09.356 --> 0:55:10.956
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you remember it, but I was

0:55:10.996 --> 0:55:12.836
<v Speaker 2>wondering if you feel like trying it.

0:55:13.396 --> 0:55:17.036
<v Speaker 7>Oh, it'll come to me as you go, because I

0:55:19.836 --> 0:55:20.676
<v Speaker 7>that's been a while.

0:55:20.716 --> 0:55:23.436
<v Speaker 4>What happened? Anyway? We were supposed to go on tour

0:55:23.516 --> 0:55:23.956
<v Speaker 4>with that song.

0:55:24.036 --> 0:55:28.396
<v Speaker 2>We were gonna go on tour and then the pandemic hit. Yeah,

0:55:28.516 --> 0:55:30.196
<v Speaker 2>we were gonna do a bunch of shows together.

0:55:30.476 --> 0:55:32.476
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I remember. I was so happy.

0:55:32.556 --> 0:55:36.796
<v Speaker 6>Me too. Oh man, we will again because it again.

0:55:37.076 --> 0:55:40.236
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, really, we will just do it again. We do

0:55:40.316 --> 0:55:43.596
<v Speaker 4>it again and set it up. You set it up.

0:56:07.156 --> 0:56:09.916
<v Speaker 4>There's a play pies.

0:56:12.356 --> 0:56:14.396
<v Speaker 8>Five from here.

0:56:16.556 --> 0:56:24.996
<v Speaker 6>Going to make it my homes swear I've been a lone.

0:56:27.516 --> 0:56:32.756
<v Speaker 4>Where I get.

0:56:32.636 --> 0:56:45.116
<v Speaker 8>Where I'm going, I'll be gone, I'll be gone.

0:56:50.836 --> 0:56:58.436
<v Speaker 4>Where my horse get so tired.

0:57:00.716 --> 0:57:07.956
<v Speaker 6>That candy tail time, don't you crie?

0:57:09.236 --> 0:57:13.236
<v Speaker 4>M When I gain.

0:57:16.556 --> 0:57:32.756
<v Speaker 15>Where I'm going, I'll be gone. I'll be gone.

0:57:32.956 --> 0:57:36.516
<v Speaker 17>Where sha I could tell you that the sun was

0:57:36.836 --> 0:57:38.556
<v Speaker 17>gonna shine.

0:57:43.236 --> 0:57:45.396
<v Speaker 4>I've got a feeling.

0:57:45.076 --> 0:57:52.836
<v Speaker 6>That I still want change my mind running out of

0:57:52.796 --> 0:58:13.956
<v Speaker 6>the tide. There's a place on the mountain you can

0:58:14.116 --> 0:58:20.796
<v Speaker 6>take my bones. But I go home.

0:58:24.196 --> 0:58:29.436
<v Speaker 4>When I get.

0:58:29.236 --> 0:58:35.196
<v Speaker 15>Where I'm going, I'll be.

0:58:35.676 --> 0:58:45.036
<v Speaker 8>Gone, I'll be gone.

0:58:45.836 --> 0:58:49.436
<v Speaker 6>I got to tell you that it's all going to

0:58:49.636 --> 0:58:51.556
<v Speaker 6>be just find.

0:58:55.556 --> 0:58:57.996
<v Speaker 12>But I don't wanna.

0:58:58.316 --> 1:00:00.276
<v Speaker 6>Waste anymore of your time. You didn't waste mind. Oh

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<v Speaker 6>now you're talk about a beautiful song.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a beautiful songs. He wrote this a long time ago, really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe eight years nine years ago. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>at one point he mentioned, gosh, it would be cool

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<v Speaker 2>to hear maybe his sing this.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was like, you're right, but yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I'm I'm a little shy sometimes I have a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time reaching out and asking to do things.

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<v Speaker 13>But don't be that way with me, Okay, now you

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<v Speaker 13>know it don't come to me anything but anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But it came full circle, but not for like five

1:00:31.956 --> 1:00:34.876
<v Speaker 2>more years and then and then I got unshy and

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<v Speaker 2>I asked you to sing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I was so that that blew

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<v Speaker 4>my mind. I said, oh wow, it's a great one.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I wish. I could play up anything.

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<v Speaker 4>And you never picked anything up.

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<v Speaker 6>I picked up the guitar.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I told Pops I wanted to play that guitar. And

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<v Speaker 7>he's tried to teach me, but he didn't. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>taught either. So and and then it.

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<v Speaker 6>Was a time when Pops was still frisky.

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<v Speaker 4>I was young. What does that mean.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean he wasn't readily okay, didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the patient I think I took it the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I didn't man going out on mama.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know that's that's frisky. But no, he just

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't patient enough.

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<v Speaker 7>So he gave me about he got me a little

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<v Speaker 7>training guitar, and he gave me about three lessons and

1:01:29.036 --> 1:01:32.156
<v Speaker 7>he was done. He said, maybe I'll tell you what, baby.

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<v Speaker 7>You go down to Lion Heally And I'm eleven years old.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know how to.

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<v Speaker 6>Go downtown to line Healey.

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<v Speaker 4>To get lessons.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, yeah, to get lessons from them.

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<v Speaker 7>And I told him, I said, Daddy, I want to

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<v Speaker 7>pick it like you and sister Rose at the Thark.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to, you know, but but if I

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<v Speaker 7>had learned, if I had learned how to strum, I

1:01:56.436 --> 1:01:58.636
<v Speaker 7>think that would have made it easier for him to

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<v Speaker 7>teach me.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, to pick. Picking is harder, harder.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I know, I know that's but but but I

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<v Speaker 7>would have been happy strumming.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask you about when you guys met

1:02:14.516 --> 1:02:18.436
<v Speaker 2>doctor Martin Luther King and you kind of switched from

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<v Speaker 2>singing gospel to singing these freedom songs protest songs. I

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<v Speaker 2>read something about Pops meeting him and saying he wants

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<v Speaker 2>to sing his words.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the most beautiful thing I've heard. That was something. Yeah, Pops,

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<v Speaker 4>he it just happened.

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<v Speaker 7>We were in Montgomery, Alabama, on Sunday morning. We didn't

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<v Speaker 7>have to work until that night, and Pops called my

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<v Speaker 7>sisters and I to his room and he told us,

1:02:48.916 --> 1:02:53.516
<v Speaker 7>he said, listen, y'all, this man Martin is here, Martin

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<v Speaker 7>Luther King, and he has a church here.

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<v Speaker 6>He said, I've been listening to him on the radio.

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<v Speaker 6>Doctor King had a radio show.

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<v Speaker 7>And Pops had been listening to him, and he said,

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<v Speaker 7>I'd like to go to his eleven o'clock service.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you all want to go, Yeah, Daddy, we wanna go.

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<v Speaker 7>We all got in the car, went down the decks

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<v Speaker 7>to Avenue Baptist Church and and we were ushered in

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<v Speaker 7>and seated. Someone let Doctor L. King know that we

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<v Speaker 7>were in the service, and he acknowledged us.

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<v Speaker 6>He said, we got to have Poper Staples and his

1:03:29.356 --> 1:03:33.676
<v Speaker 6>daughter's here this morning. Hope you enjoyed the service. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>we enjoyed the service.

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<v Speaker 7>And that at as the the service is over, the worshipers,

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<v Speaker 7>Doctor King stands at the door to shake the worshiper's

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<v Speaker 7>hands as as they filed out, and Pops walked past

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<v Speaker 7>shook his hand. Now, my sisters and I did first

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<v Speaker 7>we shoot, We shoot doctor King. Oh that was a feeling.

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<v Speaker 7>I shook his hand and Pops we had to wait

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<v Speaker 7>on him. He stood there and talked to him for

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<v Speaker 7>a while. He finally came on. We get back to

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<v Speaker 7>the hotel. He called us to his room again and

1:04:06.436 --> 1:04:11.356
<v Speaker 7>he said, listen, y'all, I l this man's message. I

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<v Speaker 7>really like his message, and I think that if he

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<v Speaker 7>can preach it, we can sing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 7>And we started writing freedom songs. March up Freedom Highway?

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<v Speaker 7>Why am I treated so bad?

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<v Speaker 4>We we we we.

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<v Speaker 7>We switched over because we didn't feel that it was

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<v Speaker 7>anything wrong. We felt like this was close to gospel. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, we singing the truth, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>We we we we wanna we want We joined the

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<v Speaker 6>movement and and uh we would sing. We would sing

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<v Speaker 6>before Doctor King would speak.

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<v Speaker 7>We'd go to the meetings and Doctor King would tell Pop, stay,

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<v Speaker 7>you're gonna sing my song the night right probably say, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>doctor were gonna sing your song?

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<v Speaker 4>Why am I treated so bad? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>That was his favorite, and and and and people asked

1:05:04.436 --> 1:05:07.436
<v Speaker 7>me what did He never talked to us girls. He

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<v Speaker 7>never sit down, and he would just he would just

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<v Speaker 7>say something, how you girls doing this morning?

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all doing all right? Yes, sir doctor King? Wow.

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<v Speaker 7>But he wouldn't sit in hold and Pops would talk.

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<v Speaker 7>People ask me, what did he talk to you about?

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<v Speaker 7>What he didn't talk to me?

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>But what what I did remember mostly Doctor King was

1:05:29.836 --> 1:05:34.876
<v Speaker 7>his laughter. He had this laughter when he laughed, because

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<v Speaker 7>most of the time I would see him, he either

1:05:38.356 --> 1:05:43.236
<v Speaker 7>looked sad or serious, you know, And when I'd hear

1:05:43.316 --> 1:05:46.076
<v Speaker 7>him laugh, that would make my heart happy because I said,

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<v Speaker 7>doctor King's happy, And that would be most of the

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<v Speaker 7>time when we'd be going to the meeting and the

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<v Speaker 7>men would be in a huddle down in the parking lot,

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<v Speaker 7>and all of a sudden, you hear doctor King laughing.

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<v Speaker 4>That made me feel so good.

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<v Speaker 7>But no, he never held a conversation with my sisters

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<v Speaker 7>and I.

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<v Speaker 4>He was just asking that.

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<v Speaker 7>He said the same way every time you girls doing

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<v Speaker 7>this morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, how much older was he?

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<v Speaker 2>You were young?

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<v Speaker 4>Still? I was young? Yeah? How young were you then?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm just I.

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<v Speaker 7>Was well in the sixties sixty This was like about

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<v Speaker 7>sixty three, nineteen sixty three, so I was born in

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<v Speaker 7>thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not good at math. You were in your you

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<v Speaker 4>were in your early twenties.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, let's say you know, yeah, I was in my

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<v Speaker 7>early twenties.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and uh.

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<v Speaker 6>But but that was when we joined the movement and

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<v Speaker 6>we became.

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<v Speaker 4>The soundtrack you did. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Congressman John Lewis would tell oh, he was my friend.

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<v Speaker 6>Now he was my friend.

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<v Speaker 7>And I went to his office when I did a

1:06:57.356 --> 1:07:01.036
<v Speaker 7>Freedom album with Ray Koto, and I asked him if

1:07:01.076 --> 1:07:04.076
<v Speaker 7>he would write my liner notes, and he said, baby,

1:07:04.156 --> 1:07:08.436
<v Speaker 7>you know, you and your family, y'all kept us motivated,

1:07:08.556 --> 1:07:09.716
<v Speaker 7>kept us inspired.

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<v Speaker 4>To keep on watching your songs.

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<v Speaker 7>I said, yes, sir, not because after surprised he remembered me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I said you, I hadn't seen him in the years,

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<v Speaker 7>and uh, I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>He gave me a meeting and.

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<v Speaker 18>His of course he remembered he didn't remember me, baby,

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<v Speaker 18>your family, and and so he I hate I missed

1:07:33.236 --> 1:07:36.516
<v Speaker 18>his birthday, invited me to his last birthday party.

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<v Speaker 7>And I couldn't go. We were working, you know, But

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<v Speaker 7>but he was my friend to the end. Yeah, Congressman

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<v Speaker 7>John Lewis.

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<v Speaker 4>That's beautiful, Uncle John, Uncle John.

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<v Speaker 2>When you guys were writing songs, was everybody was collectively

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of pitching in?

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<v Speaker 4>Did Pops always yeah? Was he Did he ever work

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<v Speaker 4>on songwriting like on his own all the time? Or yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>He did.

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<v Speaker 7>Pops was always jotting something down, you know, and and

1:08:09.236 --> 1:08:11.916
<v Speaker 7>we would help him. We would put some words in

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<v Speaker 7>on this on But but that's Daddy's something we we

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<v Speaker 7>don't want any credit for, okay, right, and we give

1:08:17.876 --> 1:08:21.156
<v Speaker 7>them to Daddy, all of us. Interesting, Yeah, we we

1:08:21.156 --> 1:08:25.396
<v Speaker 7>we dropped drop words and he can march of Freedom's Highway.

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<v Speaker 7>Made up my mind and I won't turn around, made

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<v Speaker 7>up mine. And there's this one thing I can't understand,

1:08:33.956 --> 1:08:36.476
<v Speaker 7>my friend, that I'm proud of that because that was

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<v Speaker 7>me Why some folk think freedom was not designed for

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<v Speaker 7>all men? There are so many people living their life perplexed.

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<v Speaker 4>Wondering in their minds, what's going.

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<v Speaker 7>To happen next. That's why we're going to march, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>That was the very first one we wrote for the movement.

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<v Speaker 7>And boy, we moved on. We and and uh we

1:09:02.796 --> 1:09:07.956
<v Speaker 7>were seeing that. We sing, oh, why am I treating

1:09:08.036 --> 1:09:11.156
<v Speaker 7>so bad? Possible that because of the there were nine

1:09:11.276 --> 1:09:17.396
<v Speaker 7>children in Little Rock, Arkansas, trying to integrate Central High School.

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<v Speaker 4>They would meet people.

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<v Speaker 7>They these kids would walk up there every day their

1:09:23.596 --> 1:09:27.716
<v Speaker 7>books in their arms, proud, and people would throw stones

1:09:27.756 --> 1:09:30.116
<v Speaker 7>at them, spit at them, call.

1:09:30.036 --> 1:09:32.436
<v Speaker 6>Them names, but they never turned their head. They just

1:09:32.516 --> 1:09:33.076
<v Speaker 6>kept walking.

1:09:33.236 --> 1:09:37.196
<v Speaker 4>That's amazing. Oh and these they were my age, they

1:09:37.196 --> 1:09:37.996
<v Speaker 4>were you know.

1:09:38.316 --> 1:09:40.956
<v Speaker 7>So we would all be on the floor popsing his

1:09:41.076 --> 1:09:45.516
<v Speaker 7>recliner and were watching the news. It got so bad

1:09:45.556 --> 1:09:52.076
<v Speaker 7>and it lasted so long. The mayor of Arkansas, of

1:09:52.116 --> 1:09:55.356
<v Speaker 7>Little Rock, the governor of Arkansas, and the President of

1:09:55.396 --> 1:09:58.596
<v Speaker 7>the United States said, let those children go to school,

1:09:59.516 --> 1:10:01.596
<v Speaker 7>and whoa I wanted to if we all wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>see this on the news. That particular day, the kids

1:10:05.356 --> 1:10:09.476
<v Speaker 7>were walking. They get right up to the bus and

1:10:09.516 --> 1:10:13.076
<v Speaker 7>a policeman put his billy club across the door, and

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<v Speaker 7>Pop said, right there, and he said, how why is

1:10:14.916 --> 1:10:17.436
<v Speaker 7>he doing that? Why are they treating him so bad?

1:10:18.156 --> 1:10:20.996
<v Speaker 7>And he wrote that song from that experience.

1:10:21.636 --> 1:10:26.276
<v Speaker 6>I tell you, we have had a baby's sister, I have.

1:10:27.076 --> 1:10:31.796
<v Speaker 4>I have seen a lot. I have seen a lot,

1:10:32.356 --> 1:10:34.436
<v Speaker 4>and and it.

1:10:34.716 --> 1:10:40.596
<v Speaker 7>Just makes me more prayerful and more willing to sing

1:10:40.636 --> 1:10:46.956
<v Speaker 7>my songs, you know, because I I don't have to

1:10:46.996 --> 1:10:50.236
<v Speaker 7>sing love. I don't have to be like everybody else.

1:10:50.236 --> 1:10:54.516
<v Speaker 7>I've seen protest songs. I sing to help us.

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<v Speaker 2>Move it forward, moving forward, right, moving it forward, right,

1:10:57.756 --> 1:10:58.636
<v Speaker 2>and we're still going.

1:10:58.876 --> 1:11:00.196
<v Speaker 4>We're still going. Yeah.

1:11:00.276 --> 1:11:03.996
<v Speaker 6>And and I owe it to Pop's I owe it

1:11:03.996 --> 1:11:05.036
<v Speaker 6>to my father. You know.

1:11:05.836 --> 1:11:08.716
<v Speaker 7>We went to South Africa and these people wanted us

1:11:08.756 --> 1:11:11.236
<v Speaker 7>to sing, want the black people to be in the

1:11:11.276 --> 1:11:17.636
<v Speaker 7>balcony Johannesburg, And Pops told him, he said, no, I'm

1:11:17.636 --> 1:11:20.436
<v Speaker 7>anna allow my children to sing like he said. Doctor

1:11:20.516 --> 1:11:23.876
<v Speaker 7>King just got that straightened out in the States, and

1:11:24.036 --> 1:11:26.076
<v Speaker 7>we're not gonna sing like that. They said, now you

1:11:26.116 --> 1:11:29.116
<v Speaker 7>can send us home. Do what you got to do.

1:11:29.476 --> 1:11:32.996
<v Speaker 7>We're not singing like. So they moved our show to

1:11:33.396 --> 1:11:37.396
<v Speaker 7>the soccer field and so waito, wow, it's a wait,

1:11:38.036 --> 1:11:39.516
<v Speaker 7>it's all it's all black.

1:11:40.276 --> 1:11:40.756
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1:11:41.276 --> 1:11:44.636
<v Speaker 7>You know, this is where the people live in little

1:11:44.676 --> 1:11:48.276
<v Speaker 7>match boxes. And it was the very first time that

1:11:48.396 --> 1:11:54.116
<v Speaker 7>blacks and white sit together, no kind of I mean

1:11:54.236 --> 1:11:58.676
<v Speaker 7>that that soccer field was backed yeah, and and black

1:11:58.716 --> 1:12:01.716
<v Speaker 7>and white were sitting right next to each other. And

1:12:01.996 --> 1:12:06.276
<v Speaker 7>but they had these I've never seen a German shepherd

1:12:06.316 --> 1:12:09.956
<v Speaker 7>dog so big. The bit the police was walking around

1:12:09.996 --> 1:12:12.436
<v Speaker 7>with them, you know, I guess for just in case

1:12:12.516 --> 1:12:13.876
<v Speaker 7>something went wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was peaceful.

1:12:15.636 --> 1:12:19.476
<v Speaker 7>But see, during that time, they wouldn't let us go

1:12:19.996 --> 1:12:21.276
<v Speaker 7>downtown by ourselves.

1:12:21.356 --> 1:12:23.596
<v Speaker 4>That must have been hard to go at all it was.

1:12:24.076 --> 1:12:24.956
<v Speaker 4>They wouldn't allow it.

1:12:25.836 --> 1:12:28.556
<v Speaker 7>The kids would tell me, if we will call you,

1:12:28.876 --> 1:12:33.076
<v Speaker 7>we will come see you. If they call my my.

1:12:34.596 --> 1:12:38.596
<v Speaker 4>Calls would go to the white girl's room.

1:12:38.916 --> 1:12:40.996
<v Speaker 6>She would be there and she would she would take

1:12:41.036 --> 1:12:42.756
<v Speaker 6>her and she wouldn't let the kids talk to me.

1:12:42.996 --> 1:12:44.516
<v Speaker 4>They wouldn't let them in the hotel.

1:12:45.916 --> 1:12:52.276
<v Speaker 6>That It was very educational, very beautiful experience and.

1:12:53.716 --> 1:12:56.356
<v Speaker 4>Intense intense, intense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you've been on tour though since the podemic a lot.

1:13:12.796 --> 1:13:16.876
<v Speaker 2>You've got to tour in these little pockets. And I'm

1:13:16.916 --> 1:13:20.436
<v Speaker 2>really excited to hear that I haven't at all yet.

1:13:20.676 --> 1:13:25.836
<v Speaker 2>What I just haven't not since the the COVID started.

1:13:26.316 --> 1:13:29.236
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, you know, I'm excited that you're out there

1:13:29.276 --> 1:13:29.716
<v Speaker 2>doing it.

1:13:29.836 --> 1:13:32.916
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I'm going everywhere you're going.

1:13:32.956 --> 1:13:37.196
<v Speaker 4>And we booked now through November. You're doing a tour

1:13:37.196 --> 1:13:40.916
<v Speaker 4>with Bonnie Ray the Center. I always do it. That's amazing.

1:13:41.036 --> 1:13:42.276
<v Speaker 4>That'll be my third tour.

1:13:42.316 --> 1:13:45.836
<v Speaker 2>We've known her a long time, right, Oh, yes, she's great.

1:13:45.996 --> 1:13:47.996
<v Speaker 2>You know that's going to be a show.

1:13:48.196 --> 1:13:50.836
<v Speaker 4>I tell you. Oh, it's always good show. Yeah.

1:13:50.836 --> 1:13:53.636
<v Speaker 7>But I used to be jellous of Bonnie. My father

1:13:53.716 --> 1:13:54.836
<v Speaker 7>loved us so much.

1:13:55.196 --> 1:13:55.836
<v Speaker 4>You're jealous.

1:13:56.956 --> 1:14:00.036
<v Speaker 7>And I told us, I said, look, I didn't know

1:14:00.556 --> 1:14:03.436
<v Speaker 7>if I should get some red hair, or if I

1:14:03.476 --> 1:14:05.716
<v Speaker 7>should learn how to play to get taught, or if

1:14:05.716 --> 1:14:09.556
<v Speaker 7>I should get real tiny because poss love. Yeah, and

1:14:09.596 --> 1:14:12.036
<v Speaker 7>she loved she came to see she came to the

1:14:12.076 --> 1:14:16.276
<v Speaker 7>hospital Seapop when he was sick. Wow, And and Bonnie

1:14:16.276 --> 1:14:18.676
<v Speaker 7>took me so bad. Pop went upstairs.

1:14:18.676 --> 1:14:22.756
<v Speaker 6>He wasn't feeling good, and he went upstairs to lie down.

1:14:23.236 --> 1:14:26.236
<v Speaker 6>She followed him. She sit on the bed and she said,

1:14:26.316 --> 1:14:28.876
<v Speaker 6>now nobody can tell me I haven't been in pop

1:14:28.916 --> 1:14:29.596
<v Speaker 6>Stable bed.

1:14:32.716 --> 1:14:35.036
<v Speaker 2>That's Bonnie, Yeah, that's Bonnie.

1:14:35.516 --> 1:14:38.916
<v Speaker 7>It was funny, Yeah, it's funny, but it was so good.

1:14:39.196 --> 1:14:42.476
<v Speaker 7>Made Possib feel so much better. He gave her a guitar.

1:14:42.596 --> 1:14:45.316
<v Speaker 7>He had to get there, and all of us were there.

1:14:45.676 --> 1:14:47.236
<v Speaker 7>We sang, that's beautiful.

1:14:47.356 --> 1:14:48.076
<v Speaker 4>It was it was.

1:14:48.276 --> 1:14:51.396
<v Speaker 2>Isn't it something? How music keeps you going? Yes, it

1:14:51.476 --> 1:14:54.436
<v Speaker 2>really keeps Yes, it keeps you young, It keeps you young,

1:14:54.596 --> 1:14:58.596
<v Speaker 2>and it's healing. Yeah, and it brings joy.

1:14:58.436 --> 1:15:01.956
<v Speaker 4>And right, and we can't do without music. I know,

1:15:02.316 --> 1:15:03.116
<v Speaker 4>no way.

1:15:03.476 --> 1:15:05.396
<v Speaker 2>I get that feeling from you.

1:15:05.476 --> 1:15:10.116
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, yeah, I passed it on the passing it,

1:15:11.436 --> 1:15:15.556
<v Speaker 7>but well, I tell you, yours brought me so much.

1:15:15.916 --> 1:15:19.196
<v Speaker 2>I wish could, Oh, I wish I could play watch

1:15:19.276 --> 1:15:20.716
<v Speaker 2>him play guitar in the person.

1:15:21.236 --> 1:15:22.156
<v Speaker 4>You know what you would do?

1:15:22.396 --> 1:15:29.156
<v Speaker 6>He would tell me that's the way. Oh no, that's

1:15:29.916 --> 1:15:30.556
<v Speaker 6>you know who else?

1:15:30.676 --> 1:15:33.076
<v Speaker 2>You know who else gave me that feeling? Always was

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<v Speaker 2>Levon Helm Is that right?

1:15:35.316 --> 1:15:35.516
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

1:15:35.556 --> 1:15:36.236
<v Speaker 4>He gave me that.

1:15:36.156 --> 1:15:39.196
<v Speaker 2>Feeling where he just it was just all music and

1:15:39.236 --> 1:15:39.836
<v Speaker 2>it kept.

1:15:39.716 --> 1:15:43.916
<v Speaker 4>Him going and just you know, oh man, And.

1:15:43.916 --> 1:15:47.076
<v Speaker 2>I remember the first time I saw you on TV,

1:15:47.796 --> 1:15:51.996
<v Speaker 2>was watching The Weight on the Last Walls and I thought,

1:15:52.876 --> 1:15:56.836
<v Speaker 2>my goodness, she is beautiful.

1:15:56.876 --> 1:16:00.916
<v Speaker 4>And she's smoking all of that. I couldn't believe it.

1:16:01.836 --> 1:16:02.596
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

1:16:02.956 --> 1:16:05.476
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, and you looked six feet tall,

1:16:05.636 --> 1:16:07.996
<v Speaker 2>and you look so tall.

1:16:08.076 --> 1:16:12.396
<v Speaker 4>For me, it's yes, yeah you do. We had on

1:16:12.436 --> 1:16:13.556
<v Speaker 4>those long black gown.

1:16:13.796 --> 1:16:13.956
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

1:16:13.956 --> 1:16:14.796
<v Speaker 4>It was beautiful.

1:16:15.196 --> 1:16:15.676
<v Speaker 6>Oh man.

1:16:15.756 --> 1:16:18.316
<v Speaker 2>I mean I'd heard your singing my whole life, but

1:16:18.396 --> 1:16:21.316
<v Speaker 2>it was the first time I zerre it in and visually.

1:16:21.036 --> 1:16:24.196
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that was nice. I know you had our

1:16:24.276 --> 1:16:25.876
<v Speaker 4>long friendship with Levon.

1:16:26.156 --> 1:16:31.636
<v Speaker 7>Oh lord Levon. I have an album coming out with Levonne.

1:16:31.796 --> 1:16:33.396
<v Speaker 7>Wow and and and uh.

1:16:33.476 --> 1:16:36.276
<v Speaker 6>We we did it at his barn and he was

1:16:36.356 --> 1:16:38.356
<v Speaker 6>right next to me and with them drums.

1:16:38.796 --> 1:16:40.716
<v Speaker 4>But but I tell you about it.

1:16:40.756 --> 1:16:44.996
<v Speaker 7>When we when we were doing les Walt, Levon was

1:16:45.036 --> 1:16:49.036
<v Speaker 7>smoking and Pops went back to we had a break, Levon,

1:16:49.356 --> 1:16:54.596
<v Speaker 7>Pops go back. They were tight buddies Levon and Pops said, Levon, man,

1:16:55.516 --> 1:17:00.996
<v Speaker 7>you smoking two cigarettes. He had a cigarette and Levon said, all.

1:17:02.476 --> 1:17:04.876
<v Speaker 4>You gotta try this one. I don't think they were

1:17:04.876 --> 1:17:07.316
<v Speaker 4>the same. Yeah, they were not the same.

1:17:07.876 --> 1:17:11.796
<v Speaker 7>Papa said, Levon, I don't think that messed but that

1:17:11.796 --> 1:17:14.116
<v Speaker 7>that Daddy laughed about that forever.

1:17:15.476 --> 1:17:16.636
<v Speaker 4>He laughed about that.

1:17:16.996 --> 1:17:20.836
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, Levonne, that was the best time because we

1:17:20.956 --> 1:17:24.836
<v Speaker 7>stayed there about a week. We you know, we would

1:17:24.836 --> 1:17:27.436
<v Speaker 7>go back to the barn every day from the hotel.

1:17:27.076 --> 1:17:28.516
<v Speaker 4>And making the record.

1:17:28.676 --> 1:17:31.396
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So when did you make it? About ten years ago?

1:17:31.876 --> 1:17:32.116
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

1:17:32.276 --> 1:17:34.956
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yes, because I was gonna say, look, are you

1:17:34.996 --> 1:17:37.476
<v Speaker 7>all gonna release this record? Am I going to be?

1:17:38.036 --> 1:17:42.596
<v Speaker 7>Didn't gone or what? But yeah, they it's coming I

1:17:42.636 --> 1:17:43.476
<v Speaker 7>think in May.

1:17:43.796 --> 1:17:47.316
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, yeah, I can't wait to hear it.

1:17:47.316 --> 1:17:49.236
<v Speaker 4>It's been a long time and I love it.

1:17:49.316 --> 1:17:53.596
<v Speaker 2>You know that he's gone, especially, it'll be so special, right.

1:17:53.996 --> 1:17:54.356
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:17:54.436 --> 1:17:57.556
<v Speaker 7>And Amy Amy helped, you know. I told her to

1:17:57.676 --> 1:17:59.556
<v Speaker 7>tell her about it. I said, Amy, the didn't need

1:17:59.596 --> 1:18:01.876
<v Speaker 7>to release the record. Yeah, you know, we end up

1:18:01.876 --> 1:18:06.996
<v Speaker 7>in age and we might leave here me so she said,

1:18:08.636 --> 1:18:11.996
<v Speaker 7>you gotta going good. But yeah, that was that was

1:18:12.036 --> 1:18:12.956
<v Speaker 7>a proud time.

1:18:13.756 --> 1:18:16.116
<v Speaker 2>Did you do what the songs? Did you do with Levan?

1:18:16.236 --> 1:18:19.836
<v Speaker 2>Did you do all old songs? Did you do that

1:18:19.836 --> 1:18:24.236
<v Speaker 2>that Nina Simone version, that's a Billy Taylor song, isn't it.

1:18:24.276 --> 1:18:26.356
<v Speaker 2>I wish I knew how it would feel to be free.

1:18:26.716 --> 1:18:27.916
<v Speaker 4>That's a Billy Taylor song.

1:18:28.116 --> 1:18:31.436
<v Speaker 2>That's what my my my phone said when I googled it,

1:18:31.476 --> 1:18:35.836
<v Speaker 2>because I mean the Nina version is. But I think

1:18:35.876 --> 1:18:38.756
<v Speaker 2>it's that Billy Taylor wrote it, really, and I it's

1:18:38.756 --> 1:18:41.396
<v Speaker 2>so funny. I saw him play. Yeah, And when I

1:18:41.476 --> 1:18:46.436
<v Speaker 2>was in high school, I didn't realize that. Yeah, but yeah,

1:18:46.476 --> 1:18:50.036
<v Speaker 2>that's a great song. Did you record that with Levan? Yeah?

1:18:50.156 --> 1:18:53.436
<v Speaker 7>I wish I knew. And and we recorded Trouble in Mine? Oh,

1:18:53.476 --> 1:18:54.636
<v Speaker 7>I love that one in mine?

1:18:54.796 --> 1:18:59.196
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and and uh ohh, I love some Nina Nina.

1:18:59.956 --> 1:19:00.636
<v Speaker 4>Did you know her?

1:19:00.876 --> 1:19:01.156
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

1:19:01.236 --> 1:19:04.476
<v Speaker 7>Yes, well yeah, yes, And she was someone I met

1:19:04.476 --> 1:19:05.996
<v Speaker 7>whose voice was heavier than mine.

1:19:06.116 --> 1:19:09.516
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, and boy she was.

1:19:10.316 --> 1:19:13.556
<v Speaker 7>I saw her first saw her in the village gate

1:19:14.716 --> 1:19:17.276
<v Speaker 7>and she had on a white she was playing that

1:19:17.396 --> 1:19:19.636
<v Speaker 7>piano and and and all of.

1:19:19.596 --> 1:19:23.396
<v Speaker 4>The sudden and people dawn. She stopped and stood up.

1:19:25.636 --> 1:19:27.836
<v Speaker 6>Do you people have cotton in your ears?

1:19:28.196 --> 1:19:28.596
<v Speaker 4>Whoa?

1:19:28.836 --> 1:19:33.676
<v Speaker 7>She told them off, because they were talking, you have

1:19:33.796 --> 1:19:35.116
<v Speaker 7>cotton in your ears?

1:19:35.476 --> 1:19:40.236
<v Speaker 6>And I said, whoa, go on, sister, But yeah, we

1:19:40.316 --> 1:19:42.436
<v Speaker 6>got to know, we got to be very good friends.

1:19:42.476 --> 1:19:43.516
<v Speaker 4>That we were.

1:19:43.556 --> 1:19:45.836
<v Speaker 6>We were in the Bahamas, though last time I saw

1:19:45.876 --> 1:19:48.596
<v Speaker 6>her we were in the Bahamas.

1:19:48.356 --> 1:19:52.676
<v Speaker 7>And uh, then she moved to New Guinea where Miriam

1:19:52.716 --> 1:19:57.476
<v Speaker 7>mckibo was and and uh she passed.

1:19:57.196 --> 1:19:58.196
<v Speaker 4>Away over there.

1:19:58.876 --> 1:20:02.956
<v Speaker 7>But but baby's sister, we were in New Guinea, don't

1:20:02.956 --> 1:20:06.916
<v Speaker 7>you know. These little guys they were in the auditorium

1:20:06.956 --> 1:20:08.036
<v Speaker 7>where we were singing.

1:20:08.676 --> 1:20:12.636
<v Speaker 6>They want to have a coup against the president of somebody.

1:20:12.636 --> 1:20:14.796
<v Speaker 4>Oh God. And we got to.

1:20:14.716 --> 1:20:18.836
<v Speaker 7>The show and we're standing at the door, Pops and

1:20:18.876 --> 1:20:24.956
<v Speaker 7>my sister and I and this man is saying that's

1:20:24.956 --> 1:20:28.996
<v Speaker 7>all we could understand was you know, and and he

1:20:29.156 --> 1:20:33.956
<v Speaker 7>was telling them. So they still came in with the guns.

1:20:34.716 --> 1:20:37.756
<v Speaker 7>And they stood on the side of the stage in

1:20:37.796 --> 1:20:42.196
<v Speaker 7>the wings where we were, and as I was singing,

1:20:42.556 --> 1:20:44.476
<v Speaker 7>I would look over there a little bit and it

1:20:44.556 --> 1:20:45.716
<v Speaker 7>would be just dancing.

1:20:47.316 --> 1:20:50.516
<v Speaker 4>That is crazy. Yeah, y'all, don't scared us to death.

1:20:50.716 --> 1:20:54.996
<v Speaker 2>You have gone to some wild times places you've you've

1:20:54.996 --> 1:20:55.636
<v Speaker 2>had it.

1:20:55.676 --> 1:20:59.476
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeow. Yeah, So we made it through that one.

1:20:59.636 --> 1:21:02.036
<v Speaker 2>I do have one more question, if you feel comfortable

1:21:02.116 --> 1:21:08.876
<v Speaker 2>talking about it. Yeah, I was curious about songwriting and this.

1:21:09.116 --> 1:21:12.716
<v Speaker 2>How were you told me yesterday. Yeah, that broke my heart.

1:21:13.036 --> 1:21:17.836
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's been so long ago that I'm surprised.

1:21:17.516 --> 1:21:20.836
<v Speaker 4>I even brought it up. I mean, I don't know.

1:21:20.956 --> 1:21:25.316
<v Speaker 7>Somebody said something about a songwriting and it did this man.

1:21:26.116 --> 1:21:32.436
<v Speaker 7>You know, I had written my three songs and he

1:21:32.556 --> 1:21:36.436
<v Speaker 7>was at Stax Records. He wanted all of my publishing.

1:21:36.756 --> 1:21:36.916
<v Speaker 5>Yea.

1:21:37.276 --> 1:21:39.236
<v Speaker 7>And I'm telling him on the phone, telling him, no,

1:21:42.476 --> 1:21:47.196
<v Speaker 7>I'm singing twelve songs on the album. You know, you

1:21:47.356 --> 1:21:50.596
<v Speaker 7>take all that pubblish but mine. My father's always taught

1:21:50.636 --> 1:21:54.476
<v Speaker 7>me I should get one hundred percent of my writers

1:21:54.556 --> 1:21:59.156
<v Speaker 7>and publishing. And he talked to me like, all right,

1:21:59.236 --> 1:22:02.436
<v Speaker 7>miss Stables, all right, I understand, yes, all right, We'll

1:22:02.716 --> 1:22:06.956
<v Speaker 7>do as you like. And I'm thinking I've won. Yeah,

1:22:07.396 --> 1:22:13.316
<v Speaker 7>the record come out and and it's it's on a

1:22:13.396 --> 1:22:18.076
<v Speaker 7>different label or something, and uh, it's me singing.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they have songwriter unknown and a song you wrote. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the songs that I wrote.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow, And I said, well, you know, it was so

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<v Speaker 7>long ago, you know, no need of me trying to

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<v Speaker 7>fix this now.

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<v Speaker 4>But that broke my heart. And you didn't write after that.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't write anymore songs.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's the sad part. But but you still

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<v Speaker 2>make all songs your own. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, that stuff happened so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah back then.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's a shame the way people are treated.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's not just me, you know. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 6>the record business has.

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<v Speaker 4>Been tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky, but it was much trickier

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<v Speaker 4>back then. Yeah, yeah, way back.

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<v Speaker 7>That was and and and and I was doing stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I was afraid because I was these were

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<v Speaker 7>these were secular songs, yeah, and and and you do

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<v Speaker 7>something secular against the gospel stuff. I was lucky. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know how it happened. I recorded houses, not a home.

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<v Speaker 7>I recorded a second and and the church people didn't

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<v Speaker 7>say nothing about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because you you got in trouble for that.

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<v Speaker 7>I could have got could but they didn't. You know

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<v Speaker 7>what they messed with. I'll take you there. They wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to put us out of church. Wow, they say, the

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<v Speaker 7>stable singers and singing the devil's music. Wow, the devil music.

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<v Speaker 7>I said, you all, you gotta listen to our lyrics.

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<v Speaker 7>They heard this beat and then the people would jump

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<v Speaker 7>up and dance, and I'll take you there, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>because but up until I'll take you there, we just

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<v Speaker 7>sang with my father's guitar.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't have no rhythm section. Yeah, we just sing

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<v Speaker 6>with dad his guitar.

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<v Speaker 7>And and but when this rhythm section came on, I'll

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<v Speaker 7>take you there singing.

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<v Speaker 4>The Devil's it sounded different.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, we're telling you I know a place. Ain't nobody crying?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, ain't nobody world.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a gospel song, taking you to heaven? Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>and and lo and behold.

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<v Speaker 7>After all the interviews we did talking to these people,

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<v Speaker 7>they invited us back to church.

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<v Speaker 4>We go back to church.

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<v Speaker 7>The first song requested in the pool bit I'll take

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<v Speaker 7>you there.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I said. You know you just don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what to do to please people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. That's why you gotta just speak your truth,

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<v Speaker 2>sing your truth right and spread some love.

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<v Speaker 4>Spread love, put out love, Yes, put it out there,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what you do. I'm gonna do it. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna keep on doing it. You are my favorite fall

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<v Speaker 4>of love. You, my little sweetheart. I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have one more song in you?

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<v Speaker 2>Or can I play? Can I play you a song?

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<v Speaker 2>And you chime in if you want.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we'll end it. We can.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it the album. Pops made the album uh

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<v Speaker 2>that song friendship, Oh yes, and then Jeff and the

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<v Speaker 2>crew they kind of fixed it up right and and

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<v Speaker 2>recorded all recorded like you weren't happy with it, and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Never got that's right.

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<v Speaker 7>And tweety did all that for Pop's album. That was

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<v Speaker 7>that's his last work, and I wanted it. I wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to put it out there, but I wanted to put

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<v Speaker 7>it out properly and write.

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<v Speaker 4>And so he.

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<v Speaker 2>Re recorded all the stuff that you weren't happy with, right. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he took the tracks of Pops and you guys singing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was so pleased.

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<v Speaker 6>I come up in here to listen and tears just flowed.

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<v Speaker 18>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>My sister Vaughn and I we we came to check

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<v Speaker 6>it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>J It's a beautiful recording and it's a great song.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a pop song.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's a good song. It's a really good song.

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<v Speaker 4>Say watch my longtime friend, something's bothering You tell me

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<v Speaker 4>what the problem is.

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<v Speaker 6>I see what I can do.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a times we disagree. We agree more that we don't.

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<v Speaker 6>We won't always see I do lie.

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<v Speaker 4>But we will more than we won't because we.

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<v Speaker 17>Got our friendship, the kind of last life time.

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<v Speaker 4>Through all the timeships.

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<v Speaker 6>You know you're a friend of mine. We got our friendship, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of last life time, through all those hardships.

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<v Speaker 6>You know you're a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to sing, what oh.

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<v Speaker 6>Talk to me, oh parle of mine? If you feel

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<v Speaker 6>you can't go home, don't you sweat. It ain't over yet,

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<v Speaker 6>this spawn with Shelly Strong. I've been awall. You are

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<v Speaker 6>right now. You saw me through it all. I lean

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<v Speaker 6>on you now you can lean on me. I bet

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<v Speaker 6>I won't lady you fall because we got friendship kind

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<v Speaker 6>of lasts a life time through all the hardship.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you're a friend of mine because we got

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<v Speaker 4>fast ship, the kind.

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<v Speaker 6>Of lasts life time. Who are those harships? You know

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<v Speaker 6>you're a friend of mine. If you're on the street,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll take your hat.

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<v Speaker 4>You're hungry, I'll give you food.

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<v Speaker 2>God if it's money you need.

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<v Speaker 6>I got some saved. If you're sick, I'll visit you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been with you all right now, you saw me

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<v Speaker 2>through it all.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll lean on you now.

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<v Speaker 6>You can lean on me.

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<v Speaker 17>I won't let you fall because we got friend ship,

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<v Speaker 17>the kind of last live time.

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<v Speaker 4>Through all hardships.

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<v Speaker 6>You know you a friend of Miney, we got friend

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<v Speaker 6>ship kind of last life time.

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<v Speaker 9>As you know you're a friend of mine through all.

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<v Speaker 6>The hard ships.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you're a friend of.

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<v Speaker 6>Mine, through all the hard shops.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you're a friend of mine. I had a

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<v Speaker 4>fight that came from Crime Girl. I love that song

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<v Speaker 4>and I love you. Thanks for thanks for talking with me.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm so happy. I'm so happy you invited me. I've

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<v Speaker 7>never done one of these. What do you call it

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<v Speaker 7>a podcast?

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<v Speaker 4>Podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm honored that you joined me. Thank you, Maavi.

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<v Speaker 2>You are loved by all who know you. Ask for everything, always.

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<v Speaker 5>Love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 14>Just playing alone, Thanks for listening to the show that

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<v Speaker 14>was made a Staples incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was a fun way.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want her to call me and tell me

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<v Speaker 5>everything's going to be okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe her.

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<v Speaker 2>We should just call her, Hey, can you tell me

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<v Speaker 2>everything's gonna be okay?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure she probably needs to hear it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's true, Yeah, it's true, she is not alone.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, let's let's wrap this up so we can

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<v Speaker 2>go call her. How much thanks for listening to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Our show was recorded by Mark Greenberg at The Loft

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, mixed by Jamie Landry and additional engineering by

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<v Speaker 2>Greg Tobler. Produce by Me and Sarah Oda Sarah Oda

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<v Speaker 2>and WA photography by Shervin Linez.

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<v Speaker 4>Artwork by Eliza Fry. See you Later,