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Speaker 1: Pushkin. Today, we're sharing an episode from a great artist

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Speaker 1: who also happens to have one of our favorite podcasts.

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Speaker 1: It's called Nora Jones is Playing Along. Nora is, of course,

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Speaker 1: a multi Grammy winning artist who loves to collaborate with

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Speaker 1: other musicians, so she started a podcast where she can

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Speaker 1: do just that. Each episode features a different musical guest,

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Speaker 1: and you, as a listener, get to be a fly

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Speaker 1: on the wall in the studio as musicians come together

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Speaker 1: fro impromptu music making and candid conversations. With guests like

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Speaker 1: Jeff Tweety, Robert Glasper, and Lucas Nelson. You'll hear everything

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Speaker 1: from their hits to classic covers to songs written on

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Speaker 1: the spot. The episode we're sharing today is with the

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Speaker 1: legendary Mavis Staples. You'll be treated to stories from her

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Speaker 1: time as a member of the iconic Staples Singers, spreading

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Speaker 1: powerful messages of peace through gospel and soul music. Mavis

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Speaker 1: also talks about her current projects a solo artist and beyond.

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Speaker 1: We'll also hear Mavis and Nora play gospel classic as

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Speaker 1: well as pay homage to Mavis's father, Pop Staples, along

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Speaker 1: with a few other surprises. So listen and then follow

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Speaker 1: and subscribe to. Nora Jones is playing along wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts to hear more great episodes with fantastic

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Speaker 1: guest artists. Without further ado, please enjoy. Nora Jones is

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Speaker 1: playing along with Mayvis Staples.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 2: Mayvis Staples and just playing.

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Speaker 3: Alone, just playing alone.

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Speaker 2: Hi, welcome to the show. I'm Nora, and with me

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Speaker 2: as always is Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 5: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Today's show is so fun to record and pretty emotional.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you felt about it, Oda, but

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Speaker 2: for me, it was it was very very special.

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Speaker 5: I feel like Mayvi's Staples is a force, yeah, but

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Speaker 5: like a very sweet, tender, loving, huggable force.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, She's just an amazing human. She is full

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Speaker 5: You cannot be in a bad mood when she's in

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Speaker 2: No, And we talk about that a little in this episode,

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Speaker 2: about her her energy and where it comes from. Mayva Staples,

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Speaker 2: of course, was part of the Staples Singers.

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Speaker 5: Mavis and her family were iconic throughout the Civil rights movement.

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Speaker 5: Her father was friends with doctor Martin Luther King Junior,

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Speaker 5: They inspired people when people needed it the most.

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Speaker 2: We enjoyed talking to Mavis about her family and the

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Speaker 2: dynamic of the Staples singers, Pops, and of course now

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Speaker 2: she's also a solo artist in her own right. She's

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Speaker 5: Everybody loves her and aside from the incredible music that

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Speaker 5: history she's had and the people she's encountered along the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk about all this and we sing several

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Speaker 2: She just goes with it at all times, and that's

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Speaker 4: I met her for the first.

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Speaker 2: Time in twenty ten when we were both honoring Paul

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Speaker 2: So I was so honored that Mavis could join me

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Speaker 5: in Chicago called the Loft, and start off by talking

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Speaker 6: Well I tell you I got my first Grammy from here.

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Speaker 2: Grand That's one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.

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Speaker 6: It is beautiful and you and I got down on

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Speaker 4: I was just out and see what he did.

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Speaker 7: He was writing it right here in the studio and

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Speaker 4: I said, okay, tweet.

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Speaker 6: But he gave me the part of the melody, and

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Speaker 6: I laid with that the night that I before tonight,

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Speaker 4: I tell you it just it just hit me. And because.

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Speaker 6: At that time, you know, I was feeling alone. Really yeah,

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Speaker 7: And and uh my other sister was sick, you know.

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Speaker 7: So the song hit me. You know, it was for me.

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Speaker 7: It was for me.

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Speaker 4: It feels made for you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was made for me. And uh, I love it.

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Speaker 7: We sing it every show. We don't go off the

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Speaker 2: I've heard you sing this many, many times. Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: If you feel alone, No, I don't alone. I just

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Speaker 7: Okay, now see I got you, babe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love.

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Speaker 2: The thing I love about this song is how there's

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Speaker 7: It's so beautiful and its just and and and it

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Speaker 6: Feel it's so much better. It makes you feel like

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Speaker 4: You're not alone. I know you're not alone. And I

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Speaker 4: we hit it, they go, cobbe, it's the best hit it.

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Speaker 9: You're not long, I'm with you, loaned to.

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Speaker 6: H what's that song? Candy song?

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Speaker 10: Got A broken Heart, a broken home, I slayed out

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Speaker 4: Open up. This is a rag.

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Speaker 11: I want to get it through you.

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Speaker 12: You, Oh not loan, You're not alone?

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Speaker 6: Here the read night, I stand in your place. Either

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 10: A broken dream, a broken.

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Speaker 8: Heart, I slay it.

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Speaker 4: And afraid open up.

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Speaker 6: Will to get it through you.

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Speaker 4: You're not longe.

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Speaker 6: An open hand, an open heart. There's no need to

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Speaker 10: I wonna get it back to you.

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Speaker 6: No no, I won't to get it through to you.

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Speaker 4: Help me, Oh my god, shelp me.

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Speaker 6: That was pretty Thank you. Oh that's a beautiful you are.

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Speaker 7: Oh there was notes and that and that that dream and.

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Speaker 4: That beautiful, so beautiful tweety A broken dream, a broken heart.

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Speaker 4: I just love it so much. And I loved Jeff.

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Speaker 6: I was so glad you sang that with me and

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Speaker 6: the Apollo.

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Speaker 4: That was really fun.

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Speaker 6: And at first they couldn't find the piano.

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Speaker 4: You prayed for a piano for me. Yeah, I'm honored.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, that was really fun. That was your birthday.

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Speaker 4: It was my idea. That's crazy. Check that out.

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Speaker 6: Wow, you helped me celebrate my birthday that was.

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Speaker 2: The second time, because I was with you in Newport

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, that must have been. That must have been

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but but but who cares? I don't. I don't

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're buds and where this could be

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Speaker 4: Doesn't feel it doesn't feel very different. It doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: Though you've gotten more experienced than me.

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Speaker 7: I'm I'm the old girl. I'm just I'm the seniors.

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Speaker 7: I'm the golden girl. But I'm hanging with young blood.

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Speaker 2: You are, and people love you, young people love you.

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Speaker 4: That makes me feel you know, you walk into the

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Speaker 4: You just bring the sunshine you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it really makes me feel good that the young adults.

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Speaker 7: I have one friend who works at Columbia College over here,

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Speaker 7: and she teaches, you know, she teaches music and she

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Speaker 7: these kids love you. These kids, Uh no, you don't know,

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Speaker 7: Hermit Terry Hermitt. No, yeah, but she she tells me

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Speaker 4: Feel so good. They do though, they love you so much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well see they see that I'm a kid too,

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Speaker 4: you are, I admit, I agree. Yeah, I've never grown up.

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Speaker 6: In my heart, I'm still a little kid, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I just I just I love to play, I

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Speaker 4: I just love people. So I love babies.

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Speaker 4: Oh, man, are you take everybody's bab Are you good

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Speaker 7: When I hear baby cry, I get my bubbles out,

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Speaker 7: I was in my twenties, okay, and uh, I asked,

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Speaker 7: I said, Mama, why you call me bubbles?

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Speaker 6: She said, maybe it's because you're so bubbly. You're just

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask that where that comes from.

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Speaker 2: But I think people who have that just are like that.

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Speaker 6: I'm just happy, go lucky all the time.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a great way to be. It really is.

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Speaker 7: And I'm grateful because but every now and then I'll

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'll take some of that, please, Can I have some

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty happy in general, but I'm not a bubbly person,

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Speaker 4: Usually I'm pretty even.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I have I don't realize it, but you do

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Speaker 6: Well come in, noisey, noisy, cruel.

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Speaker 6: And and and Prince used to tell me, he said, Davis,

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Speaker 4: Really, what a thing to say that would be.

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Speaker 6: I was just I come from a noisy crew, just like.

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Speaker 4: I say, all the hig family. That's what it's about.

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Speaker 7: Right, But right, and I'm I'm just grateful.

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Speaker 6: I know I should talk softer and save.

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Speaker 2: I think at this point you're good. Did they say

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Speaker 2: I mean I get that. But if it hadn't been

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Speaker 6: Right, I'm not talking about all my life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 7: But I guess they were just used to being around

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Speaker 4: Yes, and now I was surprised his voice so.

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Speaker 2: Mayavis, Prince he had a low speaking voice. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: He was, he was, and he observed a lot, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 7: I took him to I said, Prince, it's just gonna

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Speaker 4: Al right, Bavis, I'll be your son.

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Speaker 7: And I loved him talk because his voice was just rare. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Or Senior was shocked. He was shocked too.

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Speaker 2: My kids told me that when they hear my voice singing,

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Speaker 4: You know, you're telling them what to do, That's what

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, they tell you said, yes, your boy, your

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Speaker 7: You just you just calm you down. You said, when

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Speaker 4: The name, Oh don't know why, don't know why?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when I first don't know, don't know why.

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Speaker 7: I said, it's a beautiful song. Next time I heard it,

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Speaker 6: And I was walking around. I was again the TV

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Speaker 4: I saw you. I said, oh my.

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Speaker 6: Goodness, start singing it.

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Speaker 7: And it's just been one of my favorites all time.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, my friend Jesse Harris wrote that song. Really,

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Speaker 4: he was in my band and he wrote the song.

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Speaker 4: I Love You wrote it.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes people think I wrote it, but hey, I wrote

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, you sing it like you wrote it. I think

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Speaker 2: You have to feel like you own the song to

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Speaker 2: really deliver it, even if you didn't come up with it, right.

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Speaker 2: And that's what you do with the Jeff Twitty songs. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and that's what you do with every song. I mean,

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Speaker 2: really do what you have to do, you really do.

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Speaker 7: You've got to from your heart. Yeah, it's got to

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Speaker 7: come from your heart. If you you want to deliver

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Speaker 7: it and react from it the way you have, that's

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Speaker 7: what's the way you gotta do.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 4: Pop's always told me.

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Speaker 7: We were in in New York one time about I

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Speaker 7: I did that. Yeah, and my father snatched me off

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Speaker 7: the stage. He said, what is wrong with you?

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Speaker 11: Maybe?

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Speaker 7: Wow, he said, what are you doing? I said, I'm

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Speaker 7: just singing. Dad, He said, maybe, let me tell you something.

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Speaker 7: You don't you your music don't need a gimmick. You

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: You sing from your heart. Sing what comes from the

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Speaker 7: heart reaches the heart. And that's the way. I've never

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Speaker 7: be you don't have to clown. You don't need to

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Speaker 7: give me. I was drying the kids they were jumping

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Speaker 7: the uh. You singing sacred music. You don't need any gimmick.

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Speaker 7: Sing from your heart. If you sing from your heart,

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Speaker 7: you'll reek the people.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that. I also I think his voice

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't trying to sing over anybody, but you

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Speaker 4: To hear it. And then it hit you right right.

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Speaker 6: And you're the same way. You know, you laid back.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where, I don't know why, but you are.

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Speaker 6: I'm just so proud to know you, a little lady.

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Speaker 4: I'm proud to know you.

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Speaker 2: I met you at the Kennedy Center for the first time,

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Speaker 4: And you saw I was nervous. I remember you knew

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Speaker 6: I knew, yeah, you.

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Speaker 4: Could tell I could. So you took me and you

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Speaker 4: I was like, what am I doing here? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: that finale.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that was so fun. It was so special meeting

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Speaker 6: Oh man, that was a good time. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 6: a good time. Anytime I see your name, I flare up.

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Speaker 6: You know, that could go either way.

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Speaker 4: And I was seeing you, I was seeing you so.

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Speaker 7: Much like you told me, Yes, that was Christmas. But

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Speaker 7: Christmas needed you, I was, it really needed you.

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Speaker 2: You know what I needed Christmas last year, and that's

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Speaker 2: why I made a Christmas album because I needed I

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm glad you made that album because they they

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Speaker 7: were a featuring.

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Speaker 6: You all week, all day again.

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Speaker 4: Christmas exhaustion. Oh it was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: You know recorded the song from your Christmas The Staples

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Speaker 2: Singers Christmas album we did the twenty fifth day of December.

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Speaker 6: Did you.

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Speaker 4: I'll send it to you.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't it wasn't on the album, but it was

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Speaker 2: a bonus track. Oh, because I didn't feel like we

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Speaker 2: made it. It was so your version is so good

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Speaker 2: it was hard to beat it.

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Speaker 4: But it's great. It's still a.

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Speaker 2: Great version, and it's a great I loved your I

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Speaker 2: listened to your Christmas album a.

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Speaker 4: Lot really recording. Yeah really, Oh and that was so

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Speaker 4: many years ago. Yeah, wow, but it's beautiful. It's a

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Speaker 4: beautiful album.

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Speaker 7: And and and Pops, he wrote the song there was

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Speaker 7: a star he did. Yeah, he wrote that and uh,

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Speaker 7: oh my god, Christmas. For a long time, you couldn't

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Speaker 7: find it we couldn't find it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, they had to reissue it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and and the Blind Boys they did some songs

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Speaker 7: from that album.

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Speaker 4: But I got to hear twenty five. That was my favorite.

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Speaker 4: It was so maybewhere.

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Speaker 6: My May, Julie last all good September October.

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Speaker 4: No them, It wasn't last Mone of the year.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, twenty fifth day of December.

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Speaker 4: Did I leave it or not?

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Speaker 2: I mean I kept saying when we were recording it,

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Speaker 2: I kept saying the twenty second, twenty first day of December,

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Speaker 2: just because it rolled off my tongue Rock and my

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Speaker 2: drummer Brian.

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Speaker 4: But he goes Nora. I think that's when Larry. You

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Speaker 4: gotta get right.

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Speaker 2: It's the twenty fifth day in December, not.

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Speaker 4: The twenty first day Jesus birthday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, don't get that one right.

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Speaker 4: No, Yeah, and props brought that posa. Tell me when

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Speaker 4: was Jesus born.

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Speaker 6: Last mone of the year?

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Speaker 4: When was Jesus.

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Speaker 6: Born last one of the year? When was bone.

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Speaker 12: Last mona?

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Speaker 6: The yead you got January, March, April, and May, June, July,

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Speaker 6: all good, September, October? No nomboy. It was twenty fifth

447
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Speaker 6: del d seven. Boy, it was the last Money year,

448
00:26:27,516 --> 00:26:32,316
Speaker 6: Born by the Virgin Mary Last Money.

449
00:26:33,356 --> 00:26:35,396
Speaker 4: He was born by the.

450
00:26:35,316 --> 00:26:45,956
Speaker 9: Virgin Mary, Last Money, Born by the Virgin Mary Last.

451
00:26:45,916 --> 00:26:56,996
Speaker 13: Monny we got January, uh huh, February, yeah, mich April, May, June, July,

452
00:26:57,716 --> 00:27:02,476
Speaker 13: all Gus, September No, No, the Denbury It was the

453
00:27:02,596 --> 00:27:05,876
Speaker 13: twenty fifth de d somebody it was.

454
00:27:05,876 --> 00:27:07,476
Speaker 6: The last Money.

455
00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:14,196
Speaker 4: I love it. Yeah, it was fun.

456
00:27:14,316 --> 00:27:18,276
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness. Yeah, well we're having Christmas today.

457
00:27:18,196 --> 00:27:18,716
Speaker 4: That's right.

458
00:27:18,876 --> 00:27:21,316
Speaker 2: I love the end of that song, Last Mother the.

459
00:27:23,196 --> 00:27:26,476
Speaker 4: So how low can you go? How low can you go?

460
00:27:27,476 --> 00:27:30,676
Speaker 4: I didn't go down? Oh my god, I didn't go down.

461
00:27:31,276 --> 00:27:35,676
Speaker 4: Whoa how low can you go? I can go down

462
00:27:36,316 --> 00:27:36,836
Speaker 4: very low?

463
00:27:37,196 --> 00:27:38,196
Speaker 6: That is amazing.

464
00:27:38,876 --> 00:27:41,156
Speaker 4: But did you like that when you were younger?

465
00:27:41,436 --> 00:27:44,556
Speaker 7: You know, my voice was so heavy always, and I

466
00:27:44,596 --> 00:27:46,756
Speaker 7: get I take it from my mother and my grandmother.

467
00:27:46,836 --> 00:27:47,996
Speaker 4: They had strong voices.

468
00:27:48,556 --> 00:27:50,476
Speaker 7: But I would Yeah, when I was a kid, it

469
00:27:50,516 --> 00:27:53,196
Speaker 7: was my voice is higher now when I get my

470
00:27:53,236 --> 00:27:54,236
Speaker 7: tonsils removed?

471
00:27:54,276 --> 00:27:57,156
Speaker 4: Oh really, it got higher. Yeah that's so weird.

472
00:27:57,476 --> 00:28:02,956
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I would fight. Kids would tell me you

473
00:28:03,076 --> 00:28:04,076
Speaker 6: sound like a boy.

474
00:28:04,396 --> 00:28:04,716
Speaker 4: Wow.

475
00:28:04,876 --> 00:28:09,676
Speaker 7: And when we started traveling, if I called down for breakfast,

476
00:28:10,076 --> 00:28:10,796
Speaker 7: the lady.

477
00:28:10,556 --> 00:28:14,716
Speaker 6: Would say yes, mister Staples, Yes, sir, I said.

478
00:28:14,396 --> 00:28:16,396
Speaker 7: And I heard it so much the last time. I said,

479
00:28:16,396 --> 00:28:20,356
Speaker 7: I'm a lady, and they said, oh, I'm sorry, you know,

480
00:28:20,436 --> 00:28:25,116
Speaker 7: but yeah, it's always been uh. I've always had a

481
00:28:25,156 --> 00:28:30,476
Speaker 7: heavy voice. And and I used to sing bass our

482
00:28:30,516 --> 00:28:32,796
Speaker 7: first record. You know what I'm saying, Well, the will

483
00:28:32,796 --> 00:28:35,036
Speaker 7: the Willow who that's insane?

484
00:28:35,116 --> 00:28:36,036
Speaker 4: And how old were you?

485
00:28:36,556 --> 00:28:40,116
Speaker 7: I was a kid, I was like like nine years old.

486
00:28:40,396 --> 00:28:41,676
Speaker 4: That's when uncloudy Day came.

487
00:28:41,716 --> 00:28:45,956
Speaker 6: Oh no, and cloudy Day came when I was thirteen, okay.

488
00:28:45,596 --> 00:28:47,476
Speaker 4: Twelve thirteen. But but.

489
00:28:49,476 --> 00:28:51,676
Speaker 7: They wanted to record us when I was a kid,

490
00:28:51,876 --> 00:28:55,796
Speaker 7: and Pops wouldn't allow it. The president of VJ Records,

491
00:28:56,116 --> 00:28:59,236
Speaker 7: Vivian Carter, she called Daddy. She said, she says, Stap,

492
00:28:59,636 --> 00:29:03,356
Speaker 7: those kids, y'all need to be on record. And Pop said, well, Vivian,

493
00:29:03,796 --> 00:29:05,836
Speaker 7: I don't know nothing about those records.

494
00:29:05,996 --> 00:29:06,196
Speaker 3: You know.

495
00:29:06,596 --> 00:29:09,356
Speaker 4: He was all of us were green, we did, you know?

496
00:29:09,476 --> 00:29:12,196
Speaker 7: And he said, I'm not gonna let my children get

497
00:29:12,236 --> 00:29:13,116
Speaker 7: on those records.

498
00:29:13,156 --> 00:29:15,596
Speaker 2: He was afraid because he was too young, right, he

499
00:29:15,636 --> 00:29:16,076
Speaker 2: didn't know.

500
00:29:16,076 --> 00:29:18,436
Speaker 4: What would business of it. Wow.

501
00:29:18,516 --> 00:29:22,636
Speaker 7: And my sister Yvonne, she would go, she would and

502
00:29:22,796 --> 00:29:25,596
Speaker 7: got books. She got this big read book, this business

503
00:29:25,596 --> 00:29:26,076
Speaker 7: of music.

504
00:29:26,356 --> 00:29:29,356
Speaker 4: She learned. She helped him a lot. Really people, Oh yeah, she.

505
00:29:29,436 --> 00:29:33,516
Speaker 2: Got that book and help you guys figure out that's incredible.

506
00:29:33,636 --> 00:29:36,476
Speaker 6: Yeah, she sure did. She stayed right with him, you know,

507
00:29:36,876 --> 00:29:39,956
Speaker 6: booking and and she.

508
00:29:40,316 --> 00:29:41,036
Speaker 4: Taught him a lot.

509
00:29:41,276 --> 00:29:46,036
Speaker 7: But also people like the Soulists and and uh sister

510
00:29:46,116 --> 00:29:49,596
Speaker 7: Maya Jackson, they were already recording and they would tell

511
00:29:49,676 --> 00:29:52,516
Speaker 7: Daddy different things. You know, they would tell him, you know,

512
00:29:52,996 --> 00:29:54,236
Speaker 7: what to do and how.

513
00:29:54,076 --> 00:29:55,796
Speaker 4: To do and watch out for this.

514
00:29:55,916 --> 00:29:59,996
Speaker 7: So when I was about twelve, perhaps called Vivian and

515
00:30:00,076 --> 00:30:03,196
Speaker 7: told her. He said, okay, Vivia, we'll make that recognized.

516
00:30:03,236 --> 00:30:03,876
Speaker 7: Let my children.

517
00:30:05,316 --> 00:30:09,916
Speaker 2: And after he'd read the book, Yeah, yeah, he felt good.

518
00:30:12,236 --> 00:30:16,996
Speaker 7: Yeah, because Pops, Pops didn't know. You know, we didn't

519
00:30:17,116 --> 00:30:19,916
Speaker 7: We were just singing. He used to sing with an

520
00:30:19,956 --> 00:30:24,356
Speaker 7: all male group, six guys, and these guys wouldn't come

521
00:30:24,356 --> 00:30:27,116
Speaker 7: to rehearsal, so Poss would be frustrated.

522
00:30:27,156 --> 00:30:27,996
Speaker 4: He'd come home mad.

523
00:30:28,116 --> 00:30:28,316
Speaker 3: You know.

524
00:30:29,076 --> 00:30:32,156
Speaker 7: He came home that third time and he went in

525
00:30:32,236 --> 00:30:36,156
Speaker 7: the closet, pulled out a little guitar that he had.

526
00:30:36,756 --> 00:30:39,076
Speaker 4: We didn't even know he had a guitar. He couldn't

527
00:30:39,116 --> 00:30:40,636
Speaker 4: play it. He could play it.

528
00:30:40,716 --> 00:30:43,316
Speaker 7: He couldn't have all the strings, but he could make

529
00:30:43,316 --> 00:30:46,396
Speaker 7: it sound good. And he told my Aunt Katy, he said,

530
00:30:46,516 --> 00:30:49,036
Speaker 7: I'm gonna sing with my children. He called all of

531
00:30:49,116 --> 00:30:51,916
Speaker 7: us into the living room, sit us down on the

532
00:30:51,916 --> 00:30:56,196
Speaker 7: floor in the circle, and began giving us voices that

533
00:30:56,276 --> 00:30:58,876
Speaker 7: he and his sisters and brothers used to sing when

534
00:30:58,876 --> 00:30:59,996
Speaker 7: they were in Mississippi.

535
00:31:00,156 --> 00:31:01,276
Speaker 4: That's incredible.

536
00:31:01,516 --> 00:31:04,076
Speaker 7: People thought we were old people when we were We

537
00:31:04,116 --> 00:31:06,716
Speaker 7: would go places and they just knew we were old.

538
00:31:06,916 --> 00:31:08,476
Speaker 4: They heard us, and.

539
00:31:08,356 --> 00:31:10,916
Speaker 7: Because because we had a little radio fifteen minute radio

540
00:31:11,076 --> 00:31:15,036
Speaker 7: show Sunday morning, and we would sing, and they thought

541
00:31:15,076 --> 00:31:17,596
Speaker 7: we were old people because Pops, we were singing those

542
00:31:17,636 --> 00:31:21,316
Speaker 7: old voices like his sisters and brothers. We would walk

543
00:31:21,356 --> 00:31:27,556
Speaker 7: in little stairsteps and they said, that's the stables sing already.

544
00:31:27,796 --> 00:31:31,356
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but that's yeah.

545
00:31:31,396 --> 00:31:35,556
Speaker 7: He would give us those voices and and that's how

546
00:31:35,596 --> 00:31:38,836
Speaker 7: we started singing. My Aunt Katie lived with us, okay,

547
00:31:38,956 --> 00:31:40,276
Speaker 7: and she came through one night.

548
00:31:40,356 --> 00:31:45,436
Speaker 4: She says, Chuck, y'all sound pretty good. And my church Sonday,

549
00:31:45,756 --> 00:31:48,076
Speaker 4: had you already been singing in church your whole lives?

550
00:31:48,236 --> 00:31:51,396
Speaker 7: No, yeah, we've been singing. We hadn't do as the family,

551
00:31:51,916 --> 00:31:55,676
Speaker 7: we hadn't been singing in church. We didn't start we

552
00:31:55,716 --> 00:32:00,116
Speaker 7: started doing programs at churches. But but uh, my sister

553
00:32:00,156 --> 00:32:02,316
Speaker 7: and brother were in the young people's choir.

554
00:32:02,876 --> 00:32:05,356
Speaker 4: I was too young to go. Okay, yeah, so you

555
00:32:05,716 --> 00:32:08,636
Speaker 4: didn't really sing much until he started doing it, until

556
00:32:08,636 --> 00:32:12,636
Speaker 4: he started using what's your order? There's five of you kids.

557
00:32:12,996 --> 00:32:15,676
Speaker 4: I'm the baby, you're the baby. Yeah, okay, bubbles, I

558
00:32:15,716 --> 00:32:17,316
Speaker 4: get it now. Yeah, I'm the baby.

559
00:32:17,476 --> 00:32:21,676
Speaker 6: Oh no, Cynthia, I was the baby for twelve years.

560
00:32:21,756 --> 00:32:25,156
Speaker 4: Oh wow. And my baby sister came along, and you know,

561
00:32:25,236 --> 00:32:26,316
Speaker 4: I didn't like how did that go?

562
00:32:28,996 --> 00:32:29,676
Speaker 6: I didn't like that.

563
00:32:29,916 --> 00:32:32,236
Speaker 7: I would be putting diapers on that baby and I

564
00:32:32,396 --> 00:32:35,316
Speaker 7: stick up. Mama said maybe you were sticking that.

565
00:32:35,676 --> 00:32:38,916
Speaker 4: I said no, ma'am mama.

566
00:32:39,356 --> 00:32:42,756
Speaker 7: But Cynthia and I became the best of friends. We

567
00:32:43,556 --> 00:32:47,156
Speaker 7: became the t I called her blessed, and she called

568
00:32:47,196 --> 00:32:51,956
Speaker 7: me Rabel. She couldn't say my name Rabel, and and

569
00:32:52,076 --> 00:32:55,996
Speaker 7: uh oh we she was, uh yeah, she was, she was.

570
00:32:56,676 --> 00:32:59,156
Speaker 7: I told Papa, I said, we gotta put Cynthia. She

571
00:32:59,356 --> 00:33:01,716
Speaker 7: would sing songs with us when we were in Chicago

572
00:33:02,356 --> 00:33:06,876
Speaker 7: at the different churches. You know, but yes, Cynthia, and see,

573
00:33:06,916 --> 00:33:10,116
Speaker 7: Mama and daddy they were just my mother was heavy set,

574
00:33:10,476 --> 00:33:12,236
Speaker 7: so I never knew she was pregnant, you.

575
00:33:12,276 --> 00:33:14,116
Speaker 4: Know, she just happened.

576
00:33:14,436 --> 00:33:17,676
Speaker 7: I didn't know where this baby came from. And they

577
00:33:17,716 --> 00:33:23,996
Speaker 7: told me, uh to pacify me. Uh because when my

578
00:33:24,076 --> 00:33:27,156
Speaker 7: mother came home, she didn't bring the baby. She had

579
00:33:27,156 --> 00:33:31,436
Speaker 7: to leave the baby there, and and and and Mama said,

580
00:33:31,636 --> 00:33:34,476
Speaker 7: you go with with with Roebuck, get to pick up

581
00:33:34,516 --> 00:33:36,556
Speaker 7: the baby. I said, what baby?

582
00:33:36,596 --> 00:33:39,516
Speaker 4: What baby? Oh, my gosh. And uh.

583
00:33:40,036 --> 00:33:42,316
Speaker 7: Then they started telling me that we had this baby,

584
00:33:42,356 --> 00:33:44,116
Speaker 7: and so they let me name her.

585
00:33:44,556 --> 00:33:46,956
Speaker 4: They did, Oh yeah, Cynthia.

586
00:33:46,596 --> 00:33:48,236
Speaker 6: Marie that.

587
00:33:51,876 --> 00:33:54,756
Speaker 4: I named her. Oh boy.

588
00:33:55,356 --> 00:33:59,396
Speaker 7: And see, because because what happened, my father he would

589
00:33:59,476 --> 00:34:02,436
Speaker 7: he would he wouldn't, he wouldn't pass me up. He

590
00:34:02,556 --> 00:34:06,476
Speaker 7: goes straight to that baby of bed or wherever she was.

591
00:34:06,876 --> 00:34:09,796
Speaker 7: And and blowing. He used to blow in my stomach,

592
00:34:10,076 --> 00:34:11,116
Speaker 7: make me laugh.

593
00:34:11,116 --> 00:34:13,436
Speaker 6: Tore me up in the air when he'd come from work.

594
00:34:13,476 --> 00:34:14,676
Speaker 6: And all that stopped.

595
00:34:14,996 --> 00:34:18,676
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, And so somebody should have been around

596
00:34:18,676 --> 00:34:20,996
Speaker 7: to talk to him, let him know he was supposed

597
00:34:21,036 --> 00:34:22,196
Speaker 7: to keep doing that.

598
00:34:22,196 --> 00:34:23,516
Speaker 4: That's interesting. Yeah.

599
00:34:23,636 --> 00:34:27,356
Speaker 2: I grew up an only child, so It's like just

600
00:34:27,916 --> 00:34:29,956
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what it was like being in

601
00:34:29,956 --> 00:34:30,836
Speaker 2: a family, Like.

602
00:34:30,796 --> 00:34:33,996
Speaker 6: Oh wow, yeah, it was good being in them.

603
00:34:34,516 --> 00:34:39,116
Speaker 7: We we uh, we would have we would disagree, we

604
00:34:39,116 --> 00:34:43,596
Speaker 7: didn't have any We fuss sometime, but Mama would tell us,

605
00:34:43,876 --> 00:34:47,716
Speaker 7: don't do that. You have to love your sister, and

606
00:34:47,716 --> 00:34:51,796
Speaker 7: and that's your sister. And you all make up apologizing me.

607
00:34:52,556 --> 00:34:55,876
Speaker 7: But you know, Yvonne and Cleatee they would do most.

608
00:34:55,716 --> 00:34:58,156
Speaker 4: Of the argience. Oh yeah, because they were the close

609
00:34:58,356 --> 00:35:00,836
Speaker 4: older That makes sense.

610
00:35:00,916 --> 00:35:05,836
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever you guys were traveling, when how old were

611
00:35:05,876 --> 00:35:09,956
Speaker 2: you when you started really traveling around and touring.

612
00:35:10,076 --> 00:35:12,156
Speaker 4: I guess, oh, yes, we were touring.

613
00:35:12,276 --> 00:35:13,516
Speaker 6: Were how old were you.

614
00:35:13,476 --> 00:35:14,036
Speaker 4: In that start?

615
00:35:15,276 --> 00:35:18,716
Speaker 6: I was, I was like about thirteen.

616
00:35:19,036 --> 00:35:19,396
Speaker 8: Wow.

617
00:35:19,516 --> 00:35:22,036
Speaker 4: Uncloudy Day was a hit. It was a hit, and

618
00:35:22,156 --> 00:35:24,956
Speaker 4: you were thirteen years old. Uncloudy Day.

619
00:35:25,236 --> 00:35:28,476
Speaker 7: This woman called pop, She says, Staples, this record is

620
00:35:28,516 --> 00:35:31,716
Speaker 7: selling like an R and B. And it turned out

621
00:35:31,716 --> 00:35:35,196
Speaker 7: that it was the first gospel record to sell a million.

622
00:35:35,556 --> 00:35:36,836
Speaker 6: That's insane. It was.

623
00:35:37,236 --> 00:35:39,276
Speaker 4: Yes, it was the first.

624
00:35:39,036 --> 00:35:41,676
Speaker 6: Gospel and and and uh.

625
00:35:42,116 --> 00:35:44,036
Speaker 4: But but we would we would.

626
00:35:43,756 --> 00:35:47,156
Speaker 7: Be we would go to down South, we would go

627
00:35:47,236 --> 00:35:52,196
Speaker 7: to Milwaukee, Gary, all around Chicago and sing and and.

628
00:35:53,596 --> 00:35:56,276
Speaker 6: People would bet the disc jockey.

629
00:35:56,356 --> 00:35:58,356
Speaker 4: When we went to New Orleans.

630
00:35:58,156 --> 00:36:00,996
Speaker 7: Memphis, the disc jockey would get on the radio and say,

631
00:36:01,316 --> 00:36:04,916
Speaker 7: this is little Navy staple. This little girl is singing this.

632
00:36:05,356 --> 00:36:07,476
Speaker 7: People would bet that I was not a little girl.

633
00:36:07,836 --> 00:36:09,356
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you had that deep.

634
00:36:09,196 --> 00:36:14,196
Speaker 7: I'm saying, well will will oh? Yeah, lord, they tell

635
00:36:14,316 --> 00:36:16,436
Speaker 7: me now, And I.

636
00:36:18,076 --> 00:36:18,836
Speaker 4: Got home.

637
00:36:19,716 --> 00:36:23,476
Speaker 6: I got a home, and you know, I'm a little girl,

638
00:36:23,556 --> 00:36:24,516
Speaker 6: little skinny girl.

639
00:36:24,596 --> 00:36:27,676
Speaker 2: And you're short now, so you're probably I was even shorter.

640
00:36:29,116 --> 00:36:32,996
Speaker 7: I was even shorter. But but but yeah, they would bet.

641
00:36:33,316 --> 00:36:35,396
Speaker 7: And what we would do, we would fool the people.

642
00:36:37,236 --> 00:36:40,196
Speaker 7: We would sing uncodly dady down in harmony.

643
00:36:40,516 --> 00:36:40,836
Speaker 6: Whoa.

644
00:36:41,156 --> 00:36:44,476
Speaker 7: They tell me all of that and then get to

645
00:36:44,516 --> 00:36:45,876
Speaker 7: the end of it, and I come.

646
00:36:45,716 --> 00:36:47,876
Speaker 4: In with, well, will will oh.

647
00:36:48,716 --> 00:36:52,236
Speaker 7: So what happened was my brother at that people would

648
00:36:52,236 --> 00:36:56,116
Speaker 7: be sitting on they all of these people that bet

649
00:36:56,836 --> 00:36:58,996
Speaker 7: that I am not a little girl, and all of

650
00:36:59,036 --> 00:37:02,916
Speaker 7: a sudden, perverse move my brother like he's gonna say,

651
00:37:02,956 --> 00:37:04,116
Speaker 7: and you hear the people, I.

652
00:37:04,076 --> 00:37:06,316
Speaker 4: Told you that wasn't no little girl. I told you

653
00:37:06,396 --> 00:37:12,876
Speaker 4: that one. And I'm easy thene how easy to the mic?

654
00:37:13,156 --> 00:37:16,596
Speaker 7: And they look up and it's really a little girls. Oh,

655
00:37:16,996 --> 00:37:18,676
Speaker 7: we had so much fun with it.

656
00:37:18,756 --> 00:37:22,476
Speaker 2: But that's so fun to travel with your family. Did

657
00:37:22,476 --> 00:37:23,756
Speaker 2: it ever get sticky?

658
00:37:24,196 --> 00:37:24,436
Speaker 4: Nah?

659
00:37:24,596 --> 00:37:29,396
Speaker 2: No, you always anything even throughout through he got older.

660
00:37:29,316 --> 00:37:30,476
Speaker 4: All of it, all of it.

661
00:37:30,756 --> 00:37:34,676
Speaker 7: The only only thing Evonne Clete would argue about saying

662
00:37:34,876 --> 00:37:36,196
Speaker 7: was what to wear.

663
00:37:37,396 --> 00:37:38,836
Speaker 4: One of them wanted to wear this, and one of

664
00:37:38,916 --> 00:37:39,796
Speaker 4: them wanted to wear that.

665
00:37:40,116 --> 00:37:42,796
Speaker 7: And see, because you know my brother he left the

666
00:37:42,876 --> 00:37:47,436
Speaker 7: group in nineteen sixty nine. It hurt me so bad, really,

667
00:37:47,636 --> 00:37:51,556
Speaker 7: because Purvis and I we had this clap. Nobody could

668
00:37:51,556 --> 00:37:56,316
Speaker 7: do that clap the way we would. And he just

669
00:37:56,716 --> 00:38:00,396
Speaker 7: got grown a man, you know me, and they get

670
00:38:00,436 --> 00:38:02,036
Speaker 7: tired of doing what their father.

671
00:38:02,676 --> 00:38:04,036
Speaker 4: Tell them to do. You know.

672
00:38:04,116 --> 00:38:06,716
Speaker 7: He wanted to be his own man. Because Pop's asking.

673
00:38:06,756 --> 00:38:08,876
Speaker 7: Pop said, perr, you sure you don't want to just

674
00:38:08,916 --> 00:38:13,036
Speaker 7: take a leave of accent, No, daddy, nope, I quit done.

675
00:38:14,396 --> 00:38:19,116
Speaker 7: And just as he quit, I'll take you there, hit Oh,

676
00:38:19,796 --> 00:38:22,676
Speaker 7: And and his friends would would mess with him.

677
00:38:23,036 --> 00:38:25,116
Speaker 4: He go into one.

678
00:38:24,996 --> 00:38:27,236
Speaker 7: Of their bars or whatever, and they put a quarter

679
00:38:27,276 --> 00:38:29,276
Speaker 7: in the juke box and play I'll take you there.

680
00:38:29,836 --> 00:38:30,916
Speaker 4: Said, y'all shouldn't do that.

681
00:38:32,516 --> 00:38:36,396
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he did all right he he he managed

682
00:38:36,396 --> 00:38:37,916
Speaker 6: the emotions.

683
00:38:37,276 --> 00:38:39,876
Speaker 4: For a while. Oh wow, so he got into the business. Yeah, oh,

684
00:38:39,916 --> 00:38:41,916
Speaker 4: he was still in the business. He was still on

685
00:38:42,156 --> 00:38:44,396
Speaker 4: the other side of it, right right.

686
00:38:44,836 --> 00:38:47,956
Speaker 7: They were They were gospel singers at first, and they

687
00:38:47,996 --> 00:38:52,276
Speaker 7: were our little friends, the hutcheson Sunbeams. I mean, they

688
00:38:52,316 --> 00:38:55,356
Speaker 7: wanted to sing R and B and so that's when

689
00:38:55,356 --> 00:38:59,316
Speaker 7: Purvis took them down the stacks, got him a choreographer,

690
00:39:00,236 --> 00:39:01,716
Speaker 7: tarts steps.

691
00:39:02,076 --> 00:39:03,516
Speaker 4: They had some hits then.

692
00:39:03,636 --> 00:39:04,436
Speaker 3: Yeah.

693
00:39:04,556 --> 00:39:06,316
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's amazing.

694
00:39:06,916 --> 00:39:10,556
Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing to me how close you guys

695
00:39:10,996 --> 00:39:13,836
Speaker 2: stayed and that there was let you know, there could.

696
00:39:13,636 --> 00:39:14,636
Speaker 4: Have been a lot of drama there.

697
00:39:14,676 --> 00:39:17,396
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah. But but but but my mother

698
00:39:18,156 --> 00:39:20,796
Speaker 6: wouldn't allow it. Mama and Daddy, you.

699
00:39:20,756 --> 00:39:23,676
Speaker 4: Know, they just taught us. They they taught us. We

700
00:39:23,716 --> 00:39:24,996
Speaker 4: grew up loving one another.

701
00:39:25,156 --> 00:39:29,796
Speaker 2: That's so special though, and it's it really feels unique.

702
00:39:29,836 --> 00:39:33,716
Speaker 2: And I don't know, you're an only child, but I

703
00:39:33,756 --> 00:39:36,276
Speaker 2: do have a half sister who's two years younger than me,

704
00:39:36,356 --> 00:39:39,716
Speaker 2: but we both grew up separately, so we didn't know

705
00:39:39,756 --> 00:39:41,996
Speaker 2: each other till we were a little older. Oh wow,

706
00:39:42,556 --> 00:39:46,076
Speaker 2: but yeah, only child. That sounds like a party to me.

707
00:39:46,556 --> 00:39:49,516
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh my god.

708
00:39:49,596 --> 00:39:54,196
Speaker 4: Yeah, because some are you spoiled? Of course you are.

709
00:39:55,076 --> 00:39:57,476
Speaker 2: I don't know, but if you ask my mother, she

710
00:39:57,516 --> 00:39:58,756
Speaker 2: would tell you a different answer.

711
00:39:59,396 --> 00:40:01,356
Speaker 6: Well, you know I met your mom, Yeah you did.

712
00:40:01,756 --> 00:40:02,516
Speaker 4: She's very tall.

713
00:40:03,476 --> 00:40:09,716
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, she is tall. She's tall, yeah, and

714
00:40:09,796 --> 00:40:12,196
Speaker 2: I'm short. She's five to ten. I'm five to one.

715
00:40:12,756 --> 00:40:15,276
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I didn't really.

716
00:40:15,316 --> 00:40:17,316
Speaker 2: I might have been spoiled, but I never messed with

717
00:40:17,356 --> 00:40:19,836
Speaker 2: her like I was a good kid, because I didn't

718
00:40:19,876 --> 00:40:20,596
Speaker 2: want her to get mad.

719
00:40:20,716 --> 00:40:21,916
Speaker 4: She was so oh yeah.

720
00:40:21,996 --> 00:40:25,076
Speaker 6: Yeah, she was tough, and by her being so tall,

721
00:40:25,076 --> 00:40:26,516
Speaker 6: you say I've been, I messed with her.

722
00:40:26,636 --> 00:40:29,196
Speaker 4: Yeah. But all you had to do was leap up.

723
00:40:30,116 --> 00:40:33,436
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't think that would have flown with her.

724
00:40:34,436 --> 00:40:39,236
Speaker 4: You did the right thing. Listen to mom. Mom knows best.

725
00:40:39,396 --> 00:40:43,676
Speaker 7: I try, Yeah, you try try.

726
00:40:44,316 --> 00:40:45,196
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

727
00:40:45,476 --> 00:40:49,516
Speaker 2: Oh man, I was wondering. Do you remember the first

728
00:40:49,556 --> 00:40:53,156
Speaker 2: song you sang with Pops when he was teaching you?

729
00:40:53,876 --> 00:40:54,756
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

730
00:40:55,116 --> 00:40:59,396
Speaker 7: The very first song my father taught us was what

731
00:40:59,596 --> 00:41:00,356
Speaker 7: the Circle Beyond?

732
00:41:00,556 --> 00:41:01,956
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love that.

733
00:41:01,956 --> 00:41:04,436
Speaker 6: One of the Circle Beyond broke and all that was

734
00:41:04,476 --> 00:41:08,236
Speaker 6: his faith. And on our records we recorded it about

735
00:41:08,276 --> 00:41:11,676
Speaker 6: four or five times, but on the record Pops is singing,

736
00:41:12,076 --> 00:41:14,876
Speaker 6: and I love to hear Pop sing because he was

737
00:41:14,916 --> 00:41:19,276
Speaker 6: so smooth. You know, he was a singer like you.

738
00:41:19,676 --> 00:41:19,996
Speaker 5: He was.

739
00:41:20,156 --> 00:41:21,236
Speaker 6: He was laid back.

740
00:41:21,756 --> 00:41:26,836
Speaker 7: Look, Sladh Stone came to Pops one day and said, hey, Pop,

741
00:41:27,676 --> 00:41:30,916
Speaker 7: give me the bag, and Pop say what you're talking about?

742
00:41:31,316 --> 00:41:32,916
Speaker 4: He said, come on, mom, give me the bag. I

743
00:41:32,956 --> 00:41:33,556
Speaker 4: know you got.

744
00:41:33,436 --> 00:41:38,076
Speaker 2: It because he was so laid back.

745
00:41:38,196 --> 00:41:40,356
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they thought.

746
00:41:43,756 --> 00:41:47,156
Speaker 6: And purpose my brother had to tell Daddy what I

747
00:41:47,396 --> 00:41:51,436
Speaker 6: was talking about. And Pop he says, like, you come,

748
00:41:51,436 --> 00:41:54,356
Speaker 6: I'm gonna choke you boy. You know I don't do that.

749
00:41:54,476 --> 00:41:59,556
Speaker 4: Mass too funny. Yeah, wow, it was so funny.

750
00:41:59,716 --> 00:42:02,236
Speaker 6: Yeah, because they would all talk about how.

751
00:42:02,156 --> 00:42:05,676
Speaker 7: Laid back Pop sing, you know, and and his voice

752
00:42:05,756 --> 00:42:06,756
Speaker 7: is just flowed.

753
00:42:07,036 --> 00:42:07,476
Speaker 4: Yeah.

754
00:42:07,556 --> 00:42:12,636
Speaker 6: But when he taught us circle be Unbroken and and

755
00:42:12,636 --> 00:42:15,676
Speaker 6: and we have sang it. We sang it with Johnny

756
00:42:15,716 --> 00:42:20,516
Speaker 6: Cash on his television show. It was the Staples family

757
00:42:20,596 --> 00:42:23,596
Speaker 6: and the Carter family. That was years ago.

758
00:42:23,676 --> 00:42:26,116
Speaker 4: That must have been fun. It was fun. Yeah.

759
00:42:26,316 --> 00:42:30,436
Speaker 7: It was for one of one of his specials, you know.

760
00:42:30,676 --> 00:42:31,876
Speaker 4: Those TV special Yeah.

761
00:42:32,036 --> 00:42:36,796
Speaker 7: I love yeah, but but and I sing it all

762
00:42:36,836 --> 00:42:42,836
Speaker 7: that's on my on my list on our show and

763
00:42:42,876 --> 00:42:49,636
Speaker 7: perhaps may uh, because we look at us as a family.

764
00:42:49,836 --> 00:42:50,756
Speaker 4: That's our circle.

765
00:42:51,196 --> 00:42:54,596
Speaker 7: And he put us in a circle when he started

766
00:42:54,596 --> 00:42:56,276
Speaker 7: giving us the voices to sing.

767
00:42:56,436 --> 00:42:59,116
Speaker 4: It was I can just picture it. You're sitting down

768
00:42:59,316 --> 00:43:00,236
Speaker 4: in the circle.

769
00:43:00,676 --> 00:43:04,396
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna sing some of it for you.

770
00:43:05,076 --> 00:43:08,996
Speaker 4: You sing it to you know. I don't know what

771
00:43:09,196 --> 00:43:09,636
Speaker 4: key I.

772
00:43:09,596 --> 00:43:10,796
Speaker 6: Sing in now you know that.

773
00:43:10,876 --> 00:43:11,716
Speaker 14: I was thinking, g.

774
00:43:14,476 --> 00:43:16,236
Speaker 6: I was stegning too low?

775
00:43:16,876 --> 00:43:17,156
Speaker 5: Huh?

776
00:43:17,316 --> 00:43:18,036
Speaker 4: Is that too low?

777
00:43:18,356 --> 00:43:18,436
Speaker 5: No?

778
00:43:19,196 --> 00:43:21,276
Speaker 4: That's good. What you say, key that is?

779
00:43:21,436 --> 00:43:25,116
Speaker 7: That's g okay, that's a shame. I don't know what

780
00:43:25,316 --> 00:43:26,236
Speaker 7: ky I sing at.

781
00:43:26,636 --> 00:43:29,516
Speaker 4: No, it's not probably has changed over the years.

782
00:43:30,076 --> 00:43:32,676
Speaker 7: I'd probably a yeah, I sing in some different keys

783
00:43:32,676 --> 00:43:33,676
Speaker 7: though in our shoulders.

784
00:43:34,356 --> 00:43:36,476
Speaker 4: But it's all right. I don't need to know what

785
00:43:36,556 --> 00:43:38,756
Speaker 4: yeah I say. I can do it in any key.

786
00:43:38,956 --> 00:43:39,756
Speaker 4: You just tell me.

787
00:43:40,316 --> 00:43:42,996
Speaker 6: Oh, no, you were I think that was good. I

788
00:43:43,156 --> 00:43:45,716
Speaker 6: was stinning and that's where you were.

789
00:43:48,916 --> 00:43:51,316
Speaker 4: Yeah.

790
00:43:51,476 --> 00:43:58,356
Speaker 6: And on a cold and cloud any day.

791
00:44:00,636 --> 00:44:06,396
Speaker 4: When I saw the hers come rolling.

792
00:44:07,716 --> 00:44:16,076
Speaker 6: Or to care my mother the away, Well, it's a circle.

793
00:44:17,996 --> 00:44:19,956
Speaker 6: Be row can.

794
00:44:21,476 --> 00:44:26,556
Speaker 8: By and by lord by and bye.

795
00:44:28,596 --> 00:44:31,316
Speaker 4: Here's a bed.

796
00:44:31,956 --> 00:44:40,316
Speaker 6: Hold away in the sky Lord and the scot.

797
00:44:46,116 --> 00:44:46,236
Speaker 11: Wo.

798
00:44:46,596 --> 00:44:47,796
Speaker 4: I told the.

799
00:44:49,876 --> 00:45:00,956
Speaker 6: Under take, please drive slow cause it's lady that you

800
00:45:01,356 --> 00:45:08,316
Speaker 6: haul land. Oh why to see her go.

801
00:45:11,196 --> 00:45:17,276
Speaker 8: Will the circles being broken.

802
00:45:18,356 --> 00:45:26,156
Speaker 5: By and by Lord, by bye, there's a.

803
00:45:26,476 --> 00:45:38,116
Speaker 6: Bed home away in the sky Lord in the sky.

804
00:45:40,356 --> 00:45:46,356
Speaker 6: I will follower close behind her.

805
00:45:47,476 --> 00:45:56,316
Speaker 11: Try to hold up and be brave, but I could not.

806
00:45:58,196 --> 00:46:00,556
Speaker 4: Pull my side role.

807
00:46:01,996 --> 00:46:11,396
Speaker 6: Winner laid her in the grain in the circle.

808
00:46:12,596 --> 00:46:14,236
Speaker 4: Be broken.

809
00:46:16,156 --> 00:46:21,036
Speaker 15: Bye and bye, bye and bye.

810
00:46:23,436 --> 00:46:31,836
Speaker 6: There's a bad uh my way in the sky.

811
00:46:32,596 --> 00:46:41,876
Speaker 16: Lord in the sky in the sky, love him the

812
00:46:42,236 --> 00:46:53,516
Speaker 16: sky in the sky, Lord in the sky.

813
00:46:54,876 --> 00:47:00,596
Speaker 4: Oh you sound just like Cleedy?

814
00:47:00,876 --> 00:47:07,036
Speaker 6: Oh really? Oh yeah? I Cleedy in your foot girl,

815
00:47:07,076 --> 00:47:08,516
Speaker 6: don't stop me crying.

816
00:47:10,236 --> 00:47:13,036
Speaker 7: I tell you my sister Kleedye. She had the best

817
00:47:13,636 --> 00:47:16,316
Speaker 7: best soprano voice.

818
00:47:16,436 --> 00:47:20,956
Speaker 4: Really so you were low and she was high. Yeah. Yeah,

819
00:47:21,356 --> 00:47:22,276
Speaker 4: so you come from it.

820
00:47:22,316 --> 00:47:26,316
Speaker 6: And I credit her for the Staples singer sound.

821
00:47:26,476 --> 00:47:30,276
Speaker 7: Really oh yeah, oh wow. She would shoot and look.

822
00:47:31,116 --> 00:47:37,836
Speaker 7: Aretha would be recording and she tell her sister Carolyn, Now, Carolyn,

823
00:47:37,916 --> 00:47:38,956
Speaker 7: want to sound like cleother.

824
00:47:39,196 --> 00:47:42,476
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's amazing. Yeah.

825
00:47:42,596 --> 00:47:46,836
Speaker 7: And and and Carolyn was saying, Carolyn told me about it.

826
00:47:47,116 --> 00:47:49,716
Speaker 6: She said, maybe's I told her I can't sound like.

827
00:47:49,676 --> 00:47:55,076
Speaker 7: Cleop She was mad about it, mad oh yeah, but

828
00:47:55,436 --> 00:48:00,156
Speaker 7: it's a different Pops give Cley like a minor. She

829
00:48:00,196 --> 00:48:05,156
Speaker 7: would go like, I know what I'm talking about, minor

830
00:48:05,916 --> 00:48:06,876
Speaker 7: in some places.

831
00:48:06,916 --> 00:48:12,196
Speaker 4: And but her boys, if you on all of our.

832
00:48:12,076 --> 00:48:16,676
Speaker 7: Old stuff where Coletia is singing, her voice stands out,

833
00:48:16,996 --> 00:48:22,716
Speaker 7: and and and her her soprano, and Popsa's guitar, that's

834
00:48:22,756 --> 00:48:23,916
Speaker 7: the staple of singers.

835
00:48:24,236 --> 00:48:26,476
Speaker 4: I love his guitar so much.

836
00:48:28,516 --> 00:48:32,396
Speaker 2: And he cool taught himself, well, that's what's good about it.

837
00:48:32,396 --> 00:48:37,316
Speaker 2: It's just feeling right. It's simple, but it's it's got

838
00:48:37,316 --> 00:48:37,676
Speaker 2: the thing.

839
00:48:37,836 --> 00:48:40,876
Speaker 4: That's what it's got, the sound, feeling right.

840
00:48:41,036 --> 00:48:43,516
Speaker 2: When did he how did he get that electric sound?

841
00:48:43,516 --> 00:48:44,916
Speaker 2: Do you know how that came about?

842
00:48:45,156 --> 00:48:45,396
Speaker 4: Pop?

843
00:48:45,516 --> 00:48:47,636
Speaker 6: I remember when he got that tremolo.

844
00:48:47,356 --> 00:48:51,156
Speaker 4: Because that wasn't typical then, no gospel music.

845
00:48:51,236 --> 00:48:55,716
Speaker 7: No and and and and some preachers, some preachers didn't

846
00:48:55,716 --> 00:48:58,396
Speaker 7: want to contemplay his guitar in the church. And Pop

847
00:48:58,476 --> 00:49:01,396
Speaker 7: said to let him know, look, you read your Bible

848
00:49:02,436 --> 00:49:06,676
Speaker 7: string instruments, saying the Bible, you know the heart. The

849
00:49:06,956 --> 00:49:11,196
Speaker 7: Pop would name them all. I guess, uh, what's that

850
00:49:11,316 --> 00:49:14,236
Speaker 7: other one? I can't call the name of it. But

851
00:49:14,236 --> 00:49:17,556
Speaker 7: but but and and and we just wouldn't go to

852
00:49:17,596 --> 00:49:19,716
Speaker 7: the church if they wouldn't let Pops playing his guitar.

853
00:49:20,396 --> 00:49:24,636
Speaker 7: But he learned from a blues man, Charlie Patton.

854
00:49:24,756 --> 00:49:25,916
Speaker 6: Okay, see he.

855
00:49:26,076 --> 00:49:31,836
Speaker 7: Pop Pops was on this farm, Patrick Practice Farm in Mississippi,

856
00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:35,076
Speaker 7: and this man was hollering with a lot of the

857
00:49:35,116 --> 00:49:39,716
Speaker 7: blues singers were on this this farm, and and and uh.

858
00:49:39,956 --> 00:49:43,316
Speaker 7: Pops would tell us how this man, Charlie Patton would

859
00:49:43,356 --> 00:49:48,276
Speaker 7: be playing and and look, we didn't know for years.

860
00:49:48,876 --> 00:49:52,436
Speaker 7: While we were singing gospel, our father was playing the

861
00:49:52,436 --> 00:49:53,076
Speaker 7: blues on.

862
00:49:53,076 --> 00:49:55,836
Speaker 4: His Yeah, that's what it is. It's the marriage of

863
00:49:55,876 --> 00:49:59,556
Speaker 4: those two things. And that made it so unique, right

864
00:49:59,876 --> 00:50:00,956
Speaker 4: right right.

865
00:50:01,036 --> 00:50:04,796
Speaker 7: But he he he, he went to the guitar store

866
00:50:04,836 --> 00:50:06,796
Speaker 7: one day and he came back.

867
00:50:06,596 --> 00:50:07,476
Speaker 4: With this trimolo.

868
00:50:08,316 --> 00:50:10,916
Speaker 7: He said, y'all, let said listen to this, and he

869
00:50:11,036 --> 00:50:16,236
Speaker 7: was drum and Elvis Presley told me one time, the

870
00:50:16,316 --> 00:50:19,916
Speaker 7: first time, yeah, the only time I ever saw him.

871
00:50:19,916 --> 00:50:21,876
Speaker 7: And the first time I ever saw him, we were

872
00:50:21,916 --> 00:50:24,276
Speaker 7: in Memphis and I was standing on the side.

873
00:50:24,316 --> 00:50:27,476
Speaker 6: It was a starlight review outside.

874
00:50:27,676 --> 00:50:30,436
Speaker 7: And I was standing over in the wing, and all

875
00:50:30,476 --> 00:50:33,316
Speaker 7: of a sudden he come in with one of his partners.

876
00:50:33,516 --> 00:50:36,756
Speaker 7: They got these leather jackets on like they've been riding motorcycles,

877
00:50:37,196 --> 00:50:41,316
Speaker 7: and and and we had sang and and uh. He

878
00:50:41,396 --> 00:50:44,756
Speaker 7: told me, he said, I like the way your father

879
00:50:44,796 --> 00:50:49,116
Speaker 7: played that guitar. I said, well, thank you. He said, yeah,

880
00:50:49,316 --> 00:50:50,676
Speaker 7: he plays a nervous.

881
00:50:50,276 --> 00:50:54,796
Speaker 4: Guitar, A nervous guitar. He called it a nervous guitar.

882
00:50:54,916 --> 00:51:00,476
Speaker 4: What does that mean? Because of them? That was a

883
00:51:00,516 --> 00:51:01,356
Speaker 4: good expression.

884
00:51:01,396 --> 00:51:05,916
Speaker 7: I said, well, I've never heard that before, A nervous guitar. Yeah,

885
00:51:06,116 --> 00:51:09,076
Speaker 7: that's what I'll never forget. And that was my meeting

886
00:51:09,316 --> 00:51:12,956
Speaker 7: with Elvis Presley. I didn't know who one of the guys,

887
00:51:13,356 --> 00:51:16,996
Speaker 7: David Ruffin who sing who later sang with the Temptation

888
00:51:17,516 --> 00:51:18,876
Speaker 7: he was singing with a gospel.

889
00:51:19,116 --> 00:51:20,476
Speaker 4: He told me, he said, maybe you know who that

890
00:51:20,516 --> 00:51:23,356
Speaker 4: guy what you was talking to? I said no. He

891
00:51:23,396 --> 00:51:27,876
Speaker 4: said blue Sways shoes. I said, I said, that's him.

892
00:51:28,476 --> 00:51:31,116
Speaker 4: That's the way he would let me know because of

893
00:51:31,156 --> 00:51:31,956
Speaker 4: blue sweight shoes.

894
00:51:32,036 --> 00:51:32,316
Speaker 2: Wow.

895
00:51:32,956 --> 00:51:35,316
Speaker 6: But yeah, Pops played a nervous guitar.

896
00:51:35,476 --> 00:51:36,876
Speaker 4: Did he laugh at that description?

897
00:51:37,076 --> 00:51:37,276
Speaker 6: Oh?

898
00:51:37,396 --> 00:51:39,876
Speaker 4: Did he laugh? He did? He laugh?

899
00:51:40,196 --> 00:51:42,276
Speaker 6: He told me, maybe, why didn't you call me over

900
00:51:42,276 --> 00:51:44,436
Speaker 6: to let me me? I said, Daddy, I didn't really

901
00:51:44,516 --> 00:51:48,196
Speaker 6: know who he was. I was just a David told

902
00:51:48,196 --> 00:51:50,516
Speaker 6: me who he was. Yeah, that was beautiful.

903
00:51:51,036 --> 00:51:54,076
Speaker 7: That's a good expression of him though. Of Pops is

904
00:51:54,196 --> 00:51:57,396
Speaker 7: guitar nervous guitar because it does.

905
00:51:59,316 --> 00:52:00,916
Speaker 4: That's just the funniest thing I've heard.

906
00:52:01,036 --> 00:52:05,916
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but but yeah, Daddy, that's that's when he

907
00:52:07,276 --> 00:52:09,876
Speaker 7: learned how to play his guitar. And he was always

908
00:52:09,876 --> 00:52:12,836
Speaker 7: playing it in the house, you know, after he'd let

909
00:52:12,876 --> 00:52:15,956
Speaker 7: us know we had a guitar, because we didn't know

910
00:52:16,156 --> 00:52:18,756
Speaker 7: until those guys wouldn't come to rehearsal.

911
00:52:19,276 --> 00:52:21,476
Speaker 4: And he decided he probably.

912
00:52:21,196 --> 00:52:23,476
Speaker 7: We probably wouldn't be any Staples singers if they had

913
00:52:23,516 --> 00:52:24,516
Speaker 7: they had come to rehearsal.

914
00:52:24,596 --> 00:52:29,156
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I thank them wow for being not not there,

915
00:52:29,396 --> 00:52:31,596
Speaker 4: not not serious about this.

916
00:52:32,196 --> 00:52:34,196
Speaker 7: They were the trumpet to and they had a good

917
00:52:34,236 --> 00:52:39,476
Speaker 7: group too, Possle singing lead and uh and Pops had

918
00:52:39,476 --> 00:52:43,116
Speaker 7: a voice. He would he he never went into his

919
00:52:43,236 --> 00:52:45,476
Speaker 7: false settle on the Staple singers.

920
00:52:46,636 --> 00:52:50,116
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he would go and he would tell me

921
00:52:50,356 --> 00:52:54,156
Speaker 6: what how they do it up in heaven today and

922
00:52:54,196 --> 00:52:58,156
Speaker 6: then he goes pee thereby there like a river.

923
00:52:58,916 --> 00:53:03,196
Speaker 7: They say, oh possible bad. Yeah, And I recorded a

924
00:53:03,196 --> 00:53:05,196
Speaker 7: song with Tweety that's what.

925
00:53:05,116 --> 00:53:08,516
Speaker 6: Are they doing in heaven. I'm not singing it like.

926
00:53:08,516 --> 00:53:11,676
Speaker 4: Pops though, Well that's okay. You sing like you. I

927
00:53:11,756 --> 00:53:12,316
Speaker 4: thing like me.

928
00:53:12,436 --> 00:53:14,076
Speaker 6: Yeah, I sing like me.

929
00:53:16,076 --> 00:53:20,276
Speaker 7: I'm so grateful to be talking to you, little lady.

930
00:53:19,876 --> 00:53:20,956
Speaker 6: You are.

931
00:53:21,996 --> 00:53:27,396
Speaker 7: You are so different from anybody else out here.

932
00:53:27,636 --> 00:53:29,836
Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, nobody.

933
00:53:29,476 --> 00:53:30,076
Speaker 7: Sounding like you.

934
00:53:30,196 --> 00:53:34,356
Speaker 6: Nobody get me up break But that's what show.

935
00:53:35,156 --> 00:53:38,436
Speaker 4: But that's what you want, right to be, to be different, right,

936
00:53:38,996 --> 00:53:40,636
Speaker 4: and but but I'm just honored.

937
00:53:41,156 --> 00:53:44,636
Speaker 7: You know, dude, I never thought I would meet you

938
00:53:45,116 --> 00:53:46,996
Speaker 7: when I first heard you on the radio.

939
00:53:48,756 --> 00:53:54,756
Speaker 4: Don't know why. I said, listen to who is she?

940
00:53:54,996 --> 00:53:57,636
Speaker 4: Who is she? I'm still figuring it out.

941
00:53:57,956 --> 00:54:01,636
Speaker 6: Yes, well no, well you you are a giant. You

942
00:54:01,756 --> 00:54:03,596
Speaker 6: a tiny little lady.

943
00:54:03,796 --> 00:54:07,236
Speaker 4: You are a giant. I tell you, I love it.

944
00:54:07,356 --> 00:54:12,476
Speaker 7: And when I came to your show in the Red Rocks.

945
00:54:12,396 --> 00:54:15,596
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did a show together. Yes, Yes, that was fun.

946
00:54:15,876 --> 00:54:16,836
Speaker 4: I started it off.

947
00:54:16,956 --> 00:54:18,516
Speaker 6: I warmed them up for you.

948
00:54:18,036 --> 00:54:21,636
Speaker 2: You killed it, and I was nervous to go on out.

949
00:54:22,916 --> 00:54:25,156
Speaker 2: I was, of course.

950
00:54:25,196 --> 00:54:28,196
Speaker 7: I those people, all those people that came out for you,

951
00:54:28,556 --> 00:54:31,636
Speaker 7: and and and I noticed you were doing.

952
00:54:31,436 --> 00:54:32,836
Speaker 4: Some songs that I hadn't heard.

953
00:54:33,196 --> 00:54:35,796
Speaker 7: Yeah, and every time you would hit one of those songs,

954
00:54:35,956 --> 00:54:37,876
Speaker 7: the crowd would roar, that's.

955
00:54:37,716 --> 00:54:40,796
Speaker 2: So funny, that's what Well, that's one of my favorite

956
00:54:40,796 --> 00:54:44,236
Speaker 2: audiences at Red Rocks, and they're always very loving.

957
00:54:44,876 --> 00:54:47,796
Speaker 4: You play there many times, right, Yes, yeah, we.

958
00:54:47,796 --> 00:54:54,396
Speaker 7: Have we have oh with different people. Yours was the best.

959
00:54:54,476 --> 00:54:55,236
Speaker 7: We had fun.

960
00:54:55,916 --> 00:54:56,676
Speaker 4: We have fun.

961
00:55:03,476 --> 00:55:08,196
Speaker 2: We had recorded a song together that Pete Ran wrote.

962
00:55:09,356 --> 00:55:10,956
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember it, but I was

963
00:55:10,996 --> 00:55:12,836
Speaker 2: wondering if you feel like trying it.

964
00:55:13,396 --> 00:55:17,036
Speaker 7: Oh, it'll come to me as you go, because I

965
00:55:19,836 --> 00:55:20,676
Speaker 7: that's been a while.

966
00:55:20,716 --> 00:55:23,436
Speaker 4: What happened? Anyway? We were supposed to go on tour

967
00:55:23,516 --> 00:55:23,956
Speaker 4: with that song.

968
00:55:24,036 --> 00:55:28,396
Speaker 2: We were gonna go on tour and then the pandemic hit. Yeah,

969
00:55:28,516 --> 00:55:30,196
Speaker 2: we were gonna do a bunch of shows together.

970
00:55:30,476 --> 00:55:32,476
Speaker 4: Yes, I remember. I was so happy.

971
00:55:32,556 --> 00:55:36,796
Speaker 6: Me too. Oh man, we will again because it again.

972
00:55:37,076 --> 00:55:40,236
Speaker 4: Yeah, really, we will just do it again. We do

973
00:55:40,316 --> 00:55:43,596
Speaker 4: it again and set it up. You set it up.

974
00:56:07,156 --> 00:56:09,916
Speaker 4: There's a play pies.

975
00:56:12,356 --> 00:56:14,396
Speaker 8: Five from here.

976
00:56:16,556 --> 00:56:24,996
Speaker 6: Going to make it my homes swear I've been a lone.

977
00:56:27,516 --> 00:56:32,756
Speaker 4: Where I get.

978
00:56:32,636 --> 00:56:45,116
Speaker 8: Where I'm going, I'll be gone, I'll be gone.

979
00:56:50,836 --> 00:56:58,436
Speaker 4: Where my horse get so tired.

980
00:57:00,716 --> 00:57:07,956
Speaker 6: That candy tail time, don't you crie?

981
00:57:09,236 --> 00:57:13,236
Speaker 4: M When I gain.

982
00:57:16,556 --> 00:57:32,756
Speaker 15: Where I'm going, I'll be gone. I'll be gone.

983
00:57:32,956 --> 00:57:36,516
Speaker 17: Where sha I could tell you that the sun was

984
00:57:36,836 --> 00:57:38,556
Speaker 17: gonna shine.

985
00:57:43,236 --> 00:57:45,396
Speaker 4: I've got a feeling.

986
00:57:45,076 --> 00:57:52,836
Speaker 6: That I still want change my mind running out of

987
00:57:52,796 --> 00:58:13,956
Speaker 6: the tide. There's a place on the mountain you can

988
00:58:14,116 --> 00:58:20,796
Speaker 6: take my bones. But I go home.

989
00:58:24,196 --> 00:58:29,436
Speaker 4: When I get.

990
00:58:29,236 --> 00:58:35,196
Speaker 15: Where I'm going, I'll be.

991
00:58:35,676 --> 00:58:45,036
Speaker 8: Gone, I'll be gone.

992
00:58:45,836 --> 00:58:49,436
Speaker 6: I got to tell you that it's all going to

993
00:58:49,636 --> 00:58:51,556
Speaker 6: be just find.

994
00:58:55,556 --> 00:58:57,996
Speaker 12: But I don't wanna.

995
00:58:58,316 --> 01:00:00,276
Speaker 6: Waste anymore of your time. You didn't waste mind. Oh

996
01:00:00,556 --> 01:00:02,516
Speaker 6: now you're talk about a beautiful song.

997
01:00:02,636 --> 01:00:07,756
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful songs. He wrote this a long time ago, really, yeah,

998
01:00:07,796 --> 01:00:10,876
Speaker 2: I mean maybe eight years nine years ago. And yeah,

999
01:00:11,236 --> 01:00:13,356
Speaker 2: at one point he mentioned, gosh, it would be cool

1000
01:00:13,356 --> 01:00:14,276
Speaker 2: to hear maybe his sing this.

1001
01:00:14,316 --> 01:00:16,556
Speaker 4: So I was like, you're right, but yeah, you.

1002
01:00:16,516 --> 01:00:18,996
Speaker 2: Know, I'm I'm a little shy sometimes I have a

1003
01:00:19,036 --> 01:00:22,036
Speaker 2: hard time reaching out and asking to do things.

1004
01:00:22,596 --> 01:00:26,356
Speaker 13: But don't be that way with me, Okay, now you

1005
01:00:26,436 --> 01:00:29,516
Speaker 13: know it don't come to me anything but anything.

1006
01:00:29,636 --> 01:00:31,916
Speaker 2: But it came full circle, but not for like five

1007
01:00:31,956 --> 01:00:34,876
Speaker 2: more years and then and then I got unshy and

1008
01:00:34,916 --> 01:00:35,956
Speaker 2: I asked you to sing it.

1009
01:00:36,676 --> 01:00:41,476
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I was so that that blew

1010
01:00:41,556 --> 01:00:44,276
Speaker 4: my mind. I said, oh wow, it's a great one.

1011
01:00:45,156 --> 01:00:48,116
Speaker 6: That's what I wish. I could play up anything.

1012
01:00:48,156 --> 01:00:50,036
Speaker 4: And you never picked anything up.

1013
01:00:50,436 --> 01:00:51,556
Speaker 6: I picked up the guitar.

1014
01:00:51,916 --> 01:00:52,116
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1015
01:00:52,196 --> 01:00:54,916
Speaker 7: I told Pops I wanted to play that guitar. And

1016
01:00:54,996 --> 01:00:58,316
Speaker 7: he's tried to teach me, but he didn't. He wasn't

1017
01:00:58,396 --> 01:01:01,076
Speaker 7: taught either. So and and then it.

1018
01:01:01,156 --> 01:01:03,156
Speaker 6: Was a time when Pops was still frisky.

1019
01:01:03,716 --> 01:01:05,556
Speaker 4: I was young. What does that mean.

1020
01:01:06,996 --> 01:01:09,636
Speaker 6: I mean he wasn't readily okay, didn't.

1021
01:01:09,396 --> 01:01:11,996
Speaker 2: Have the patient I think I took it the wrong way.

1022
01:01:12,196 --> 01:01:14,516
Speaker 4: No, I didn't man going out on mama.

1023
01:01:14,836 --> 01:01:18,876
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know that's that's frisky. But no, he just

1024
01:01:19,036 --> 01:01:20,196
Speaker 6: wasn't patient enough.

1025
01:01:20,836 --> 01:01:23,596
Speaker 7: So he gave me about he got me a little

1026
01:01:24,596 --> 01:01:28,996
Speaker 7: training guitar, and he gave me about three lessons and

1027
01:01:29,036 --> 01:01:32,156
Speaker 7: he was done. He said, maybe I'll tell you what, baby.

1028
01:01:32,836 --> 01:01:37,716
Speaker 7: You go down to Lion Heally And I'm eleven years old.

1029
01:01:37,756 --> 01:01:38,436
Speaker 7: I don't know how to.

1030
01:01:38,396 --> 01:01:40,316
Speaker 6: Go downtown to line Healey.

1031
01:01:40,676 --> 01:01:43,276
Speaker 4: To get lessons.

1032
01:01:43,356 --> 01:01:45,836
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, yeah, to get lessons from them.

1033
01:01:46,276 --> 01:01:48,276
Speaker 7: And I told him, I said, Daddy, I want to

1034
01:01:48,316 --> 01:01:50,676
Speaker 7: pick it like you and sister Rose at the Thark.

1035
01:01:50,996 --> 01:01:53,196
Speaker 7: I don't want to, you know, but but if I

1036
01:01:53,236 --> 01:01:56,436
Speaker 7: had learned, if I had learned how to strum, I

1037
01:01:56,436 --> 01:01:58,636
Speaker 7: think that would have made it easier for him to

1038
01:01:58,676 --> 01:01:59,196
Speaker 7: teach me.

1039
01:01:59,836 --> 01:02:02,276
Speaker 4: You know, to pick. Picking is harder, harder.

1040
01:02:02,516 --> 01:02:05,796
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I know that's but but but I

1041
01:02:05,836 --> 01:02:07,236
Speaker 7: would have been happy strumming.

1042
01:02:08,076 --> 01:02:08,276
Speaker 6: You know.

1043
01:02:08,916 --> 01:02:14,476
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about when you guys met

1044
01:02:14,516 --> 01:02:18,436
Speaker 2: doctor Martin Luther King and you kind of switched from

1045
01:02:18,476 --> 01:02:22,636
Speaker 2: singing gospel to singing these freedom songs protest songs. I

1046
01:02:22,716 --> 01:02:27,516
Speaker 2: read something about Pops meeting him and saying he wants

1047
01:02:27,556 --> 01:02:29,036
Speaker 2: to sing his words.

1048
01:02:29,676 --> 01:02:34,916
Speaker 4: That is the most beautiful thing I've heard. That was something. Yeah, Pops,

1049
01:02:35,876 --> 01:02:38,796
Speaker 4: he it just happened.

1050
01:02:38,796 --> 01:02:42,716
Speaker 7: We were in Montgomery, Alabama, on Sunday morning. We didn't

1051
01:02:42,756 --> 01:02:45,676
Speaker 7: have to work until that night, and Pops called my

1052
01:02:45,756 --> 01:02:48,916
Speaker 7: sisters and I to his room and he told us,

1053
01:02:48,916 --> 01:02:53,516
Speaker 7: he said, listen, y'all, this man Martin is here, Martin

1054
01:02:53,596 --> 01:02:56,276
Speaker 7: Luther King, and he has a church here.

1055
01:02:56,956 --> 01:02:58,796
Speaker 6: He said, I've been listening to him on the radio.

1056
01:02:58,996 --> 01:03:00,756
Speaker 6: Doctor King had a radio show.

1057
01:03:01,516 --> 01:03:04,276
Speaker 7: And Pops had been listening to him, and he said,

1058
01:03:04,596 --> 01:03:06,836
Speaker 7: I'd like to go to his eleven o'clock service.

1059
01:03:07,276 --> 01:03:10,476
Speaker 4: Do you all want to go, Yeah, Daddy, we wanna go.

1060
01:03:11,076 --> 01:03:12,956
Speaker 7: We all got in the car, went down the decks

1061
01:03:13,036 --> 01:03:19,276
Speaker 7: to Avenue Baptist Church and and we were ushered in

1062
01:03:19,436 --> 01:03:22,796
Speaker 7: and seated. Someone let Doctor L. King know that we

1063
01:03:22,796 --> 01:03:25,436
Speaker 7: were in the service, and he acknowledged us.

1064
01:03:26,036 --> 01:03:29,196
Speaker 6: He said, we got to have Poper Staples and his

1065
01:03:29,356 --> 01:03:33,676
Speaker 6: daughter's here this morning. Hope you enjoyed the service. Well,

1066
01:03:33,756 --> 01:03:35,036
Speaker 6: we enjoyed the service.

1067
01:03:35,756 --> 01:03:39,876
Speaker 7: And that at as the the service is over, the worshipers,

1068
01:03:40,076 --> 01:03:42,516
Speaker 7: Doctor King stands at the door to shake the worshiper's

1069
01:03:42,556 --> 01:03:46,196
Speaker 7: hands as as they filed out, and Pops walked past

1070
01:03:46,196 --> 01:03:49,956
Speaker 7: shook his hand. Now, my sisters and I did first

1071
01:03:50,596 --> 01:03:53,916
Speaker 7: we shoot, We shoot doctor King. Oh that was a feeling.

1072
01:03:54,076 --> 01:03:57,476
Speaker 7: I shook his hand and Pops we had to wait

1073
01:03:57,516 --> 01:03:59,116
Speaker 7: on him. He stood there and talked to him for

1074
01:03:59,196 --> 01:04:02,156
Speaker 7: a while. He finally came on. We get back to

1075
01:04:02,196 --> 01:04:06,396
Speaker 7: the hotel. He called us to his room again and

1076
01:04:06,436 --> 01:04:11,356
Speaker 7: he said, listen, y'all, I l this man's message. I

1077
01:04:11,516 --> 01:04:14,876
Speaker 7: really like his message, and I think that if he

1078
01:04:14,916 --> 01:04:16,956
Speaker 7: can preach it, we can sing it.

1079
01:04:17,156 --> 01:04:17,556
Speaker 4: Wow.

1080
01:04:18,316 --> 01:04:22,396
Speaker 7: And we started writing freedom songs. March up Freedom Highway?

1081
01:04:22,796 --> 01:04:24,196
Speaker 7: Why am I treated so bad?

1082
01:04:24,756 --> 01:04:26,796
Speaker 4: We we we we.

1083
01:04:26,356 --> 01:04:28,996
Speaker 7: We switched over because we didn't feel that it was

1084
01:04:29,036 --> 01:04:32,556
Speaker 7: anything wrong. We felt like this was close to gospel. Yeah,

1085
01:04:32,596 --> 01:04:34,956
Speaker 7: you know, we singing the truth, you know.

1086
01:04:35,356 --> 01:04:38,756
Speaker 6: We we we we wanna we want We joined the

1087
01:04:38,836 --> 01:04:43,956
Speaker 6: movement and and uh we would sing. We would sing

1088
01:04:45,516 --> 01:04:46,996
Speaker 6: before Doctor King would speak.

1089
01:04:47,036 --> 01:04:51,276
Speaker 7: We'd go to the meetings and Doctor King would tell Pop, stay,

1090
01:04:51,476 --> 01:04:55,596
Speaker 7: you're gonna sing my song the night right probably say, oh, yeah,

1091
01:04:55,636 --> 01:04:57,556
Speaker 7: doctor were gonna sing your song?

1092
01:04:58,116 --> 01:05:00,076
Speaker 4: Why am I treated so bad? Yeah?

1093
01:05:00,156 --> 01:05:04,396
Speaker 7: That was his favorite, and and and and people asked

1094
01:05:04,436 --> 01:05:07,436
Speaker 7: me what did He never talked to us girls. He

1095
01:05:07,556 --> 01:05:10,156
Speaker 7: never sit down, and he would just he would just

1096
01:05:10,156 --> 01:05:12,836
Speaker 7: say something, how you girls doing this morning?

1097
01:05:13,756 --> 01:05:16,796
Speaker 4: Y'all doing all right? Yes, sir doctor King? Wow.

1098
01:05:16,876 --> 01:05:20,556
Speaker 7: But he wouldn't sit in hold and Pops would talk.

1099
01:05:21,316 --> 01:05:23,436
Speaker 7: People ask me, what did he talk to you about?

1100
01:05:23,436 --> 01:05:24,596
Speaker 7: What he didn't talk to me?

1101
01:05:24,876 --> 01:05:25,076
Speaker 4: You know.

1102
01:05:25,596 --> 01:05:29,836
Speaker 7: But what what I did remember mostly Doctor King was

1103
01:05:29,836 --> 01:05:34,876
Speaker 7: his laughter. He had this laughter when he laughed, because

1104
01:05:34,996 --> 01:05:38,316
Speaker 7: most of the time I would see him, he either

1105
01:05:38,356 --> 01:05:43,236
Speaker 7: looked sad or serious, you know, And when I'd hear

1106
01:05:43,316 --> 01:05:46,076
Speaker 7: him laugh, that would make my heart happy because I said,

1107
01:05:46,076 --> 01:05:48,916
Speaker 7: doctor King's happy, And that would be most of the

1108
01:05:48,956 --> 01:05:51,396
Speaker 7: time when we'd be going to the meeting and the

1109
01:05:51,836 --> 01:05:54,356
Speaker 7: men would be in a huddle down in the parking lot,

1110
01:05:54,876 --> 01:05:58,436
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, you hear doctor King laughing.

1111
01:05:58,876 --> 01:06:00,356
Speaker 4: That made me feel so good.

1112
01:06:01,156 --> 01:06:04,876
Speaker 7: But no, he never held a conversation with my sisters

1113
01:06:04,916 --> 01:06:05,196
Speaker 7: and I.

1114
01:06:05,876 --> 01:06:06,996
Speaker 4: He was just asking that.

1115
01:06:07,196 --> 01:06:09,876
Speaker 7: He said the same way every time you girls doing

1116
01:06:09,956 --> 01:06:10,556
Speaker 7: this morning.

1117
01:06:10,876 --> 01:06:12,756
Speaker 4: Wow, how much older was he?

1118
01:06:12,916 --> 01:06:13,476
Speaker 2: You were young?

1119
01:06:13,596 --> 01:06:16,316
Speaker 4: Still? I was young? Yeah? How young were you then?

1120
01:06:16,596 --> 01:06:18,036
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just I.

1121
01:06:18,076 --> 01:06:22,116
Speaker 7: Was well in the sixties sixty This was like about

1122
01:06:22,156 --> 01:06:26,636
Speaker 7: sixty three, nineteen sixty three, so I was born in

1123
01:06:26,756 --> 01:06:27,476
Speaker 7: thirty nine.

1124
01:06:29,636 --> 01:06:32,436
Speaker 4: I'm not good at math. You were in your you

1125
01:06:32,476 --> 01:06:33,556
Speaker 4: were in your early twenties.

1126
01:06:33,636 --> 01:06:38,476
Speaker 7: Oh, let's say you know, yeah, I was in my

1127
01:06:38,556 --> 01:06:39,236
Speaker 7: early twenties.

1128
01:06:39,316 --> 01:06:40,436
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh.

1129
01:06:41,036 --> 01:06:44,556
Speaker 6: But but that was when we joined the movement and

1130
01:06:45,476 --> 01:06:46,516
Speaker 6: we became.

1131
01:06:46,276 --> 01:06:48,516
Speaker 4: The soundtrack you did. Yeah.

1132
01:06:48,676 --> 01:06:48,876
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1133
01:06:49,476 --> 01:06:52,316
Speaker 6: Congressman John Lewis would tell oh, he was my friend.

1134
01:06:52,876 --> 01:06:54,076
Speaker 6: Now he was my friend.

1135
01:06:54,516 --> 01:06:57,316
Speaker 7: And I went to his office when I did a

1136
01:06:57,356 --> 01:07:01,036
Speaker 7: Freedom album with Ray Koto, and I asked him if

1137
01:07:01,076 --> 01:07:04,076
Speaker 7: he would write my liner notes, and he said, baby,

1138
01:07:04,156 --> 01:07:08,436
Speaker 7: you know, you and your family, y'all kept us motivated,

1139
01:07:08,556 --> 01:07:09,716
Speaker 7: kept us inspired.

1140
01:07:09,796 --> 01:07:12,236
Speaker 4: To keep on watching your songs.

1141
01:07:12,596 --> 01:07:16,996
Speaker 7: I said, yes, sir, not because after surprised he remembered me. Yeah,

1142
01:07:17,116 --> 01:07:19,436
Speaker 7: I said you, I hadn't seen him in the years,

1143
01:07:20,196 --> 01:07:21,516
Speaker 7: and uh, I was surprised.

1144
01:07:21,556 --> 01:07:22,596
Speaker 4: He gave me a meeting and.

1145
01:07:22,676 --> 01:07:27,796
Speaker 18: His of course he remembered he didn't remember me, baby,

1146
01:07:28,076 --> 01:07:33,236
Speaker 18: your family, and and so he I hate I missed

1147
01:07:33,236 --> 01:07:36,516
Speaker 18: his birthday, invited me to his last birthday party.

1148
01:07:36,596 --> 01:07:39,996
Speaker 7: And I couldn't go. We were working, you know, But

1149
01:07:39,996 --> 01:07:46,676
Speaker 7: but he was my friend to the end. Yeah, Congressman

1150
01:07:46,836 --> 01:07:47,916
Speaker 7: John Lewis.

1151
01:07:47,956 --> 01:07:50,156
Speaker 4: That's beautiful, Uncle John, Uncle John.

1152
01:07:51,796 --> 01:07:56,116
Speaker 2: When you guys were writing songs, was everybody was collectively

1153
01:07:56,236 --> 01:07:57,156
Speaker 2: just sort of pitching in?

1154
01:07:57,276 --> 01:08:00,356
Speaker 4: Did Pops always yeah? Was he Did he ever work

1155
01:08:00,396 --> 01:08:04,676
Speaker 4: on songwriting like on his own all the time? Or yeah?

1156
01:08:04,716 --> 01:08:04,996
Speaker 4: He did.

1157
01:08:05,076 --> 01:08:09,196
Speaker 7: Pops was always jotting something down, you know, and and

1158
01:08:09,236 --> 01:08:11,916
Speaker 7: we would help him. We would put some words in

1159
01:08:12,276 --> 01:08:14,996
Speaker 7: on this on But but that's Daddy's something we we

1160
01:08:14,996 --> 01:08:17,836
Speaker 7: don't want any credit for, okay, right, and we give

1161
01:08:17,876 --> 01:08:21,156
Speaker 7: them to Daddy, all of us. Interesting, Yeah, we we

1162
01:08:21,156 --> 01:08:25,396
Speaker 7: we dropped drop words and he can march of Freedom's Highway.

1163
01:08:25,796 --> 01:08:29,596
Speaker 7: Made up my mind and I won't turn around, made

1164
01:08:29,716 --> 01:08:33,876
Speaker 7: up mine. And there's this one thing I can't understand,

1165
01:08:33,956 --> 01:08:36,476
Speaker 7: my friend, that I'm proud of that because that was

1166
01:08:36,636 --> 01:08:40,876
Speaker 7: me Why some folk think freedom was not designed for

1167
01:08:40,996 --> 01:08:47,196
Speaker 7: all men? There are so many people living their life perplexed.

1168
01:08:47,476 --> 01:08:50,676
Speaker 4: Wondering in their minds, what's going.

1169
01:08:50,596 --> 01:08:53,796
Speaker 7: To happen next. That's why we're going to march, you know.

1170
01:08:54,116 --> 01:08:57,796
Speaker 7: That was the very first one we wrote for the movement.

1171
01:08:58,996 --> 01:09:02,756
Speaker 7: And boy, we moved on. We and and uh we

1172
01:09:02,796 --> 01:09:07,956
Speaker 7: were seeing that. We sing, oh, why am I treating

1173
01:09:08,036 --> 01:09:11,156
Speaker 7: so bad? Possible that because of the there were nine

1174
01:09:11,276 --> 01:09:17,396
Speaker 7: children in Little Rock, Arkansas, trying to integrate Central High School.

1175
01:09:18,436 --> 01:09:19,436
Speaker 4: They would meet people.

1176
01:09:19,476 --> 01:09:23,556
Speaker 7: They these kids would walk up there every day their

1177
01:09:23,596 --> 01:09:27,716
Speaker 7: books in their arms, proud, and people would throw stones

1178
01:09:27,756 --> 01:09:30,116
Speaker 7: at them, spit at them, call.

1179
01:09:30,036 --> 01:09:32,436
Speaker 6: Them names, but they never turned their head. They just

1180
01:09:32,516 --> 01:09:33,076
Speaker 6: kept walking.

1181
01:09:33,236 --> 01:09:37,196
Speaker 4: That's amazing. Oh and these they were my age, they

1182
01:09:37,196 --> 01:09:37,996
Speaker 4: were you know.

1183
01:09:38,316 --> 01:09:40,956
Speaker 7: So we would all be on the floor popsing his

1184
01:09:41,076 --> 01:09:45,516
Speaker 7: recliner and were watching the news. It got so bad

1185
01:09:45,556 --> 01:09:52,076
Speaker 7: and it lasted so long. The mayor of Arkansas, of

1186
01:09:52,116 --> 01:09:55,356
Speaker 7: Little Rock, the governor of Arkansas, and the President of

1187
01:09:55,396 --> 01:09:58,596
Speaker 7: the United States said, let those children go to school,

1188
01:09:59,516 --> 01:10:01,596
Speaker 7: and whoa I wanted to if we all wanted to

1189
01:10:01,596 --> 01:10:05,356
Speaker 7: see this on the news. That particular day, the kids

1190
01:10:05,356 --> 01:10:09,476
Speaker 7: were walking. They get right up to the bus and

1191
01:10:09,516 --> 01:10:13,076
Speaker 7: a policeman put his billy club across the door, and

1192
01:10:13,116 --> 01:10:14,876
Speaker 7: Pop said, right there, and he said, how why is

1193
01:10:14,916 --> 01:10:17,436
Speaker 7: he doing that? Why are they treating him so bad?

1194
01:10:18,156 --> 01:10:20,996
Speaker 7: And he wrote that song from that experience.

1195
01:10:21,636 --> 01:10:26,276
Speaker 6: I tell you, we have had a baby's sister, I have.

1196
01:10:27,076 --> 01:10:31,796
Speaker 4: I have seen a lot. I have seen a lot,

1197
01:10:32,356 --> 01:10:34,436
Speaker 4: and and it.

1198
01:10:34,716 --> 01:10:40,596
Speaker 7: Just makes me more prayerful and more willing to sing

1199
01:10:40,636 --> 01:10:46,956
Speaker 7: my songs, you know, because I I don't have to

1200
01:10:46,996 --> 01:10:50,236
Speaker 7: sing love. I don't have to be like everybody else.

1201
01:10:50,236 --> 01:10:54,516
Speaker 7: I've seen protest songs. I sing to help us.

1202
01:10:54,516 --> 01:10:57,676
Speaker 2: Move it forward, moving forward, right, moving it forward, right,

1203
01:10:57,756 --> 01:10:58,636
Speaker 2: and we're still going.

1204
01:10:58,876 --> 01:11:00,196
Speaker 4: We're still going. Yeah.

1205
01:11:00,276 --> 01:11:03,996
Speaker 6: And and I owe it to Pop's I owe it

1206
01:11:03,996 --> 01:11:05,036
Speaker 6: to my father. You know.

1207
01:11:05,836 --> 01:11:08,716
Speaker 7: We went to South Africa and these people wanted us

1208
01:11:08,756 --> 01:11:11,236
Speaker 7: to sing, want the black people to be in the

1209
01:11:11,276 --> 01:11:17,636
Speaker 7: balcony Johannesburg, And Pops told him, he said, no, I'm

1210
01:11:17,636 --> 01:11:20,436
Speaker 7: anna allow my children to sing like he said. Doctor

1211
01:11:20,516 --> 01:11:23,876
Speaker 7: King just got that straightened out in the States, and

1212
01:11:24,036 --> 01:11:26,076
Speaker 7: we're not gonna sing like that. They said, now you

1213
01:11:26,116 --> 01:11:29,116
Speaker 7: can send us home. Do what you got to do.

1214
01:11:29,476 --> 01:11:32,996
Speaker 7: We're not singing like. So they moved our show to

1215
01:11:33,396 --> 01:11:37,396
Speaker 7: the soccer field and so waito, wow, it's a wait,

1216
01:11:38,036 --> 01:11:39,516
Speaker 7: it's all it's all black.

1217
01:11:40,276 --> 01:11:40,756
Speaker 4: Uh.

1218
01:11:41,276 --> 01:11:44,636
Speaker 7: You know, this is where the people live in little

1219
01:11:44,676 --> 01:11:48,276
Speaker 7: match boxes. And it was the very first time that

1220
01:11:48,396 --> 01:11:54,116
Speaker 7: blacks and white sit together, no kind of I mean

1221
01:11:54,236 --> 01:11:58,676
Speaker 7: that that soccer field was backed yeah, and and black

1222
01:11:58,716 --> 01:12:01,716
Speaker 7: and white were sitting right next to each other. And

1223
01:12:01,996 --> 01:12:06,276
Speaker 7: but they had these I've never seen a German shepherd

1224
01:12:06,316 --> 01:12:09,956
Speaker 7: dog so big. The bit the police was walking around

1225
01:12:09,996 --> 01:12:12,436
Speaker 7: with them, you know, I guess for just in case

1226
01:12:12,516 --> 01:12:13,876
Speaker 7: something went wrong.

1227
01:12:13,956 --> 01:12:15,036
Speaker 4: But it was peaceful.

1228
01:12:15,636 --> 01:12:19,476
Speaker 7: But see, during that time, they wouldn't let us go

1229
01:12:19,996 --> 01:12:21,276
Speaker 7: downtown by ourselves.

1230
01:12:21,356 --> 01:12:23,596
Speaker 4: That must have been hard to go at all it was.

1231
01:12:24,076 --> 01:12:24,956
Speaker 4: They wouldn't allow it.

1232
01:12:25,836 --> 01:12:28,556
Speaker 7: The kids would tell me, if we will call you,

1233
01:12:28,876 --> 01:12:33,076
Speaker 7: we will come see you. If they call my my.

1234
01:12:34,596 --> 01:12:38,596
Speaker 4: Calls would go to the white girl's room.

1235
01:12:38,916 --> 01:12:40,996
Speaker 6: She would be there and she would she would take

1236
01:12:41,036 --> 01:12:42,756
Speaker 6: her and she wouldn't let the kids talk to me.

1237
01:12:42,996 --> 01:12:44,516
Speaker 4: They wouldn't let them in the hotel.

1238
01:12:45,916 --> 01:12:52,276
Speaker 6: That It was very educational, very beautiful experience and.

1239
01:12:53,716 --> 01:12:56,356
Speaker 4: Intense intense, intense.

1240
01:12:56,996 --> 01:13:12,636
Speaker 2: Yes, you've been on tour though since the podemic a lot.

1241
01:13:12,796 --> 01:13:16,876
Speaker 2: You've got to tour in these little pockets. And I'm

1242
01:13:16,916 --> 01:13:20,436
Speaker 2: really excited to hear that I haven't at all yet.

1243
01:13:20,676 --> 01:13:25,836
Speaker 2: What I just haven't not since the the COVID started.

1244
01:13:26,316 --> 01:13:29,236
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you know, I'm excited that you're out there

1245
01:13:29,276 --> 01:13:29,716
Speaker 2: doing it.

1246
01:13:29,836 --> 01:13:32,916
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm going everywhere you're going.

1247
01:13:32,956 --> 01:13:37,196
Speaker 4: And we booked now through November. You're doing a tour

1248
01:13:37,196 --> 01:13:40,916
Speaker 4: with Bonnie Ray the Center. I always do it. That's amazing.

1249
01:13:41,036 --> 01:13:42,276
Speaker 4: That'll be my third tour.

1250
01:13:42,316 --> 01:13:45,836
Speaker 2: We've known her a long time, right, Oh, yes, she's great.

1251
01:13:45,996 --> 01:13:47,996
Speaker 2: You know that's going to be a show.

1252
01:13:48,196 --> 01:13:50,836
Speaker 4: I tell you. Oh, it's always good show. Yeah.

1253
01:13:50,836 --> 01:13:53,636
Speaker 7: But I used to be jellous of Bonnie. My father

1254
01:13:53,716 --> 01:13:54,836
Speaker 7: loved us so much.

1255
01:13:55,196 --> 01:13:55,836
Speaker 4: You're jealous.

1256
01:13:56,956 --> 01:14:00,036
Speaker 7: And I told us, I said, look, I didn't know

1257
01:14:00,556 --> 01:14:03,436
Speaker 7: if I should get some red hair, or if I

1258
01:14:03,476 --> 01:14:05,716
Speaker 7: should learn how to play to get taught, or if

1259
01:14:05,716 --> 01:14:09,556
Speaker 7: I should get real tiny because poss love. Yeah, and

1260
01:14:09,596 --> 01:14:12,036
Speaker 7: she loved she came to see she came to the

1261
01:14:12,076 --> 01:14:16,276
Speaker 7: hospital Seapop when he was sick. Wow, And and Bonnie

1262
01:14:16,276 --> 01:14:18,676
Speaker 7: took me so bad. Pop went upstairs.

1263
01:14:18,676 --> 01:14:22,756
Speaker 6: He wasn't feeling good, and he went upstairs to lie down.

1264
01:14:23,236 --> 01:14:26,236
Speaker 6: She followed him. She sit on the bed and she said,

1265
01:14:26,316 --> 01:14:28,876
Speaker 6: now nobody can tell me I haven't been in pop

1266
01:14:28,916 --> 01:14:29,596
Speaker 6: Stable bed.

1267
01:14:32,716 --> 01:14:35,036
Speaker 2: That's Bonnie, Yeah, that's Bonnie.

1268
01:14:35,516 --> 01:14:38,916
Speaker 7: It was funny, Yeah, it's funny, but it was so good.

1269
01:14:39,196 --> 01:14:42,476
Speaker 7: Made Possib feel so much better. He gave her a guitar.

1270
01:14:42,596 --> 01:14:45,316
Speaker 7: He had to get there, and all of us were there.

1271
01:14:45,676 --> 01:14:47,236
Speaker 7: We sang, that's beautiful.

1272
01:14:47,356 --> 01:14:48,076
Speaker 4: It was it was.

1273
01:14:48,276 --> 01:14:51,396
Speaker 2: Isn't it something? How music keeps you going? Yes, it

1274
01:14:51,476 --> 01:14:54,436
Speaker 2: really keeps Yes, it keeps you young, It keeps you young,

1275
01:14:54,596 --> 01:14:58,596
Speaker 2: and it's healing. Yeah, and it brings joy.

1276
01:14:58,436 --> 01:15:01,956
Speaker 4: And right, and we can't do without music. I know,

1277
01:15:02,316 --> 01:15:03,116
Speaker 4: no way.

1278
01:15:03,476 --> 01:15:05,396
Speaker 2: I get that feeling from you.

1279
01:15:05,476 --> 01:15:10,116
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, yeah, I passed it on the passing it,

1280
01:15:11,436 --> 01:15:15,556
Speaker 7: but well, I tell you, yours brought me so much.

1281
01:15:15,916 --> 01:15:19,196
Speaker 2: I wish could, Oh, I wish I could play watch

1282
01:15:19,276 --> 01:15:20,716
Speaker 2: him play guitar in the person.

1283
01:15:21,236 --> 01:15:22,156
Speaker 4: You know what you would do?

1284
01:15:22,396 --> 01:15:29,156
Speaker 6: He would tell me that's the way. Oh no, that's

1285
01:15:29,916 --> 01:15:30,556
Speaker 6: you know who else?

1286
01:15:30,676 --> 01:15:33,076
Speaker 2: You know who else gave me that feeling? Always was

1287
01:15:33,156 --> 01:15:35,196
Speaker 2: Levon Helm Is that right?

1288
01:15:35,316 --> 01:15:35,516
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1289
01:15:35,556 --> 01:15:36,236
Speaker 4: He gave me that.

1290
01:15:36,156 --> 01:15:39,196
Speaker 2: Feeling where he just it was just all music and

1291
01:15:39,236 --> 01:15:39,836
Speaker 2: it kept.

1292
01:15:39,716 --> 01:15:43,916
Speaker 4: Him going and just you know, oh man, And.

1293
01:15:43,916 --> 01:15:47,076
Speaker 2: I remember the first time I saw you on TV,

1294
01:15:47,796 --> 01:15:51,996
Speaker 2: was watching The Weight on the Last Walls and I thought,

1295
01:15:52,876 --> 01:15:56,836
Speaker 2: my goodness, she is beautiful.

1296
01:15:56,876 --> 01:16:00,916
Speaker 4: And she's smoking all of that. I couldn't believe it.

1297
01:16:01,836 --> 01:16:02,596
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1298
01:16:02,956 --> 01:16:05,476
Speaker 2: I was just like, and you looked six feet tall,

1299
01:16:05,636 --> 01:16:07,996
Speaker 2: and you look so tall.

1300
01:16:08,076 --> 01:16:12,396
Speaker 4: For me, it's yes, yeah you do. We had on

1301
01:16:12,436 --> 01:16:13,556
Speaker 4: those long black gown.

1302
01:16:13,796 --> 01:16:13,956
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1303
01:16:13,956 --> 01:16:14,796
Speaker 4: It was beautiful.

1304
01:16:15,196 --> 01:16:15,676
Speaker 6: Oh man.

1305
01:16:15,756 --> 01:16:18,316
Speaker 2: I mean I'd heard your singing my whole life, but

1306
01:16:18,396 --> 01:16:21,316
Speaker 2: it was the first time I zerre it in and visually.

1307
01:16:21,036 --> 01:16:24,196
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was nice. I know you had our

1308
01:16:24,276 --> 01:16:25,876
Speaker 4: long friendship with Levon.

1309
01:16:26,156 --> 01:16:31,636
Speaker 7: Oh lord Levon. I have an album coming out with Levonne.

1310
01:16:31,796 --> 01:16:33,396
Speaker 7: Wow and and and uh.

1311
01:16:33,476 --> 01:16:36,276
Speaker 6: We we did it at his barn and he was

1312
01:16:36,356 --> 01:16:38,356
Speaker 6: right next to me and with them drums.

1313
01:16:38,796 --> 01:16:40,716
Speaker 4: But but I tell you about it.

1314
01:16:40,756 --> 01:16:44,996
Speaker 7: When we when we were doing les Walt, Levon was

1315
01:16:45,036 --> 01:16:49,036
Speaker 7: smoking and Pops went back to we had a break, Levon,

1316
01:16:49,356 --> 01:16:54,596
Speaker 7: Pops go back. They were tight buddies Levon and Pops said, Levon, man,

1317
01:16:55,516 --> 01:17:00,996
Speaker 7: you smoking two cigarettes. He had a cigarette and Levon said, all.

1318
01:17:02,476 --> 01:17:04,876
Speaker 4: You gotta try this one. I don't think they were

1319
01:17:04,876 --> 01:17:07,316
Speaker 4: the same. Yeah, they were not the same.

1320
01:17:07,876 --> 01:17:11,796
Speaker 7: Papa said, Levon, I don't think that messed but that

1321
01:17:11,796 --> 01:17:14,116
Speaker 7: that Daddy laughed about that forever.

1322
01:17:15,476 --> 01:17:16,636
Speaker 4: He laughed about that.

1323
01:17:16,996 --> 01:17:20,836
Speaker 7: But yeah, Levonne, that was the best time because we

1324
01:17:20,956 --> 01:17:24,836
Speaker 7: stayed there about a week. We you know, we would

1325
01:17:24,836 --> 01:17:27,436
Speaker 7: go back to the barn every day from the hotel.

1326
01:17:27,076 --> 01:17:28,516
Speaker 4: And making the record.

1327
01:17:28,676 --> 01:17:31,396
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when did you make it? About ten years ago?

1328
01:17:31,876 --> 01:17:32,116
Speaker 4: Yes?

1329
01:17:32,276 --> 01:17:34,956
Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, because I was gonna say, look, are you

1330
01:17:34,996 --> 01:17:37,476
Speaker 7: all gonna release this record? Am I going to be?

1331
01:17:38,036 --> 01:17:42,596
Speaker 7: Didn't gone or what? But yeah, they it's coming I

1332
01:17:42,636 --> 01:17:43,476
Speaker 7: think in May.

1333
01:17:43,796 --> 01:17:47,316
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, yeah, I can't wait to hear it.

1334
01:17:47,316 --> 01:17:49,236
Speaker 4: It's been a long time and I love it.

1335
01:17:49,316 --> 01:17:53,596
Speaker 2: You know that he's gone, especially, it'll be so special, right.

1336
01:17:53,996 --> 01:17:54,356
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1337
01:17:54,436 --> 01:17:57,556
Speaker 7: And Amy Amy helped, you know. I told her to

1338
01:17:57,676 --> 01:17:59,556
Speaker 7: tell her about it. I said, Amy, the didn't need

1339
01:17:59,596 --> 01:18:01,876
Speaker 7: to release the record. Yeah, you know, we end up

1340
01:18:01,876 --> 01:18:06,996
Speaker 7: in age and we might leave here me so she said,

1341
01:18:08,636 --> 01:18:11,996
Speaker 7: you gotta going good. But yeah, that was that was

1342
01:18:12,036 --> 01:18:12,956
Speaker 7: a proud time.

1343
01:18:13,756 --> 01:18:16,116
Speaker 2: Did you do what the songs? Did you do with Levan?

1344
01:18:16,236 --> 01:18:19,836
Speaker 2: Did you do all old songs? Did you do that

1345
01:18:19,836 --> 01:18:24,236
Speaker 2: that Nina Simone version, that's a Billy Taylor song, isn't it.

1346
01:18:24,276 --> 01:18:26,356
Speaker 2: I wish I knew how it would feel to be free.

1347
01:18:26,716 --> 01:18:27,916
Speaker 4: That's a Billy Taylor song.

1348
01:18:28,116 --> 01:18:31,436
Speaker 2: That's what my my my phone said when I googled it,

1349
01:18:31,476 --> 01:18:35,836
Speaker 2: because I mean the Nina version is. But I think

1350
01:18:35,876 --> 01:18:38,756
Speaker 2: it's that Billy Taylor wrote it, really, and I it's

1351
01:18:38,756 --> 01:18:41,396
Speaker 2: so funny. I saw him play. Yeah, And when I

1352
01:18:41,476 --> 01:18:46,436
Speaker 2: was in high school, I didn't realize that. Yeah, but yeah,

1353
01:18:46,476 --> 01:18:50,036
Speaker 2: that's a great song. Did you record that with Levan? Yeah?

1354
01:18:50,156 --> 01:18:53,436
Speaker 7: I wish I knew. And and we recorded Trouble in Mine? Oh,

1355
01:18:53,476 --> 01:18:54,636
Speaker 7: I love that one in mine?

1356
01:18:54,796 --> 01:18:59,196
Speaker 6: Yeah, and and uh ohh, I love some Nina Nina.

1357
01:18:59,956 --> 01:19:00,636
Speaker 4: Did you know her?

1358
01:19:00,876 --> 01:19:01,156
Speaker 2: Oh?

1359
01:19:01,236 --> 01:19:04,476
Speaker 7: Yes, well yeah, yes, And she was someone I met

1360
01:19:04,476 --> 01:19:05,996
Speaker 7: whose voice was heavier than mine.

1361
01:19:06,116 --> 01:19:09,516
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and boy she was.

1362
01:19:10,316 --> 01:19:13,556
Speaker 7: I saw her first saw her in the village gate

1363
01:19:14,716 --> 01:19:17,276
Speaker 7: and she had on a white she was playing that

1364
01:19:17,396 --> 01:19:19,636
Speaker 7: piano and and and all of.

1365
01:19:19,596 --> 01:19:23,396
Speaker 4: The sudden and people dawn. She stopped and stood up.

1366
01:19:25,636 --> 01:19:27,836
Speaker 6: Do you people have cotton in your ears?

1367
01:19:28,196 --> 01:19:28,596
Speaker 4: Whoa?

1368
01:19:28,836 --> 01:19:33,676
Speaker 7: She told them off, because they were talking, you have

1369
01:19:33,796 --> 01:19:35,116
Speaker 7: cotton in your ears?

1370
01:19:35,476 --> 01:19:40,236
Speaker 6: And I said, whoa, go on, sister, But yeah, we

1371
01:19:40,316 --> 01:19:42,436
Speaker 6: got to know, we got to be very good friends.

1372
01:19:42,476 --> 01:19:43,516
Speaker 4: That we were.

1373
01:19:43,556 --> 01:19:45,836
Speaker 6: We were in the Bahamas, though last time I saw

1374
01:19:45,876 --> 01:19:48,596
Speaker 6: her we were in the Bahamas.

1375
01:19:48,356 --> 01:19:52,676
Speaker 7: And uh, then she moved to New Guinea where Miriam

1376
01:19:52,716 --> 01:19:57,476
Speaker 7: mckibo was and and uh she passed.

1377
01:19:57,196 --> 01:19:58,196
Speaker 4: Away over there.

1378
01:19:58,876 --> 01:20:02,956
Speaker 7: But but baby's sister, we were in New Guinea, don't

1379
01:20:02,956 --> 01:20:06,916
Speaker 7: you know. These little guys they were in the auditorium

1380
01:20:06,956 --> 01:20:08,036
Speaker 7: where we were singing.

1381
01:20:08,676 --> 01:20:12,636
Speaker 6: They want to have a coup against the president of somebody.

1382
01:20:12,636 --> 01:20:14,796
Speaker 4: Oh God. And we got to.

1383
01:20:14,716 --> 01:20:18,836
Speaker 7: The show and we're standing at the door, Pops and

1384
01:20:18,876 --> 01:20:24,956
Speaker 7: my sister and I and this man is saying that's

1385
01:20:24,956 --> 01:20:28,996
Speaker 7: all we could understand was you know, and and he

1386
01:20:29,156 --> 01:20:33,956
Speaker 7: was telling them. So they still came in with the guns.

1387
01:20:34,716 --> 01:20:37,756
Speaker 7: And they stood on the side of the stage in

1388
01:20:37,796 --> 01:20:42,196
Speaker 7: the wings where we were, and as I was singing,

1389
01:20:42,556 --> 01:20:44,476
Speaker 7: I would look over there a little bit and it

1390
01:20:44,556 --> 01:20:45,716
Speaker 7: would be just dancing.

1391
01:20:47,316 --> 01:20:50,516
Speaker 4: That is crazy. Yeah, y'all, don't scared us to death.

1392
01:20:50,716 --> 01:20:54,996
Speaker 2: You have gone to some wild times places you've you've

1393
01:20:54,996 --> 01:20:55,636
Speaker 2: had it.

1394
01:20:55,676 --> 01:20:59,476
Speaker 4: Yes, yeow. Yeah, So we made it through that one.

1395
01:20:59,636 --> 01:21:02,036
Speaker 2: I do have one more question, if you feel comfortable

1396
01:21:02,116 --> 01:21:08,876
Speaker 2: talking about it. Yeah, I was curious about songwriting and this.

1397
01:21:09,116 --> 01:21:12,716
Speaker 2: How were you told me yesterday. Yeah, that broke my heart.

1398
01:21:13,036 --> 01:21:17,836
Speaker 7: You know, it's been so long ago that I'm surprised.

1399
01:21:17,516 --> 01:21:20,836
Speaker 4: I even brought it up. I mean, I don't know.

1400
01:21:20,956 --> 01:21:25,316
Speaker 7: Somebody said something about a songwriting and it did this man.

1401
01:21:26,116 --> 01:21:32,436
Speaker 7: You know, I had written my three songs and he

1402
01:21:32,556 --> 01:21:36,436
Speaker 7: was at Stax Records. He wanted all of my publishing.

1403
01:21:36,756 --> 01:21:36,916
Speaker 5: Yea.

1404
01:21:37,276 --> 01:21:39,236
Speaker 7: And I'm telling him on the phone, telling him, no,

1405
01:21:42,476 --> 01:21:47,196
Speaker 7: I'm singing twelve songs on the album. You know, you

1406
01:21:47,356 --> 01:21:50,596
Speaker 7: take all that pubblish but mine. My father's always taught

1407
01:21:50,636 --> 01:21:54,476
Speaker 7: me I should get one hundred percent of my writers

1408
01:21:54,556 --> 01:21:59,156
Speaker 7: and publishing. And he talked to me like, all right,

1409
01:21:59,236 --> 01:22:02,436
Speaker 7: miss Stables, all right, I understand, yes, all right, We'll

1410
01:22:02,716 --> 01:22:06,956
Speaker 7: do as you like. And I'm thinking I've won. Yeah,

1411
01:22:07,396 --> 01:22:13,316
Speaker 7: the record come out and and it's it's on a

1412
01:22:13,396 --> 01:22:18,076
Speaker 7: different label or something, and uh, it's me singing.

1413
01:22:18,956 --> 01:22:24,956
Speaker 4: And then they have songwriter unknown and a song you wrote. Yeah,

1414
01:22:25,196 --> 01:22:26,316
Speaker 4: the songs that I wrote.

1415
01:22:26,436 --> 01:22:29,636
Speaker 7: Wow, And I said, well, you know, it was so

1416
01:22:29,876 --> 01:22:33,676
Speaker 7: long ago, you know, no need of me trying to

1417
01:22:34,276 --> 01:22:35,276
Speaker 7: fix this now.

1418
01:22:35,876 --> 01:22:38,916
Speaker 4: But that broke my heart. And you didn't write after that.

1419
01:22:39,116 --> 01:22:40,516
Speaker 4: I didn't write anymore songs.

1420
01:22:40,516 --> 01:22:43,836
Speaker 2: But that's that's the sad part. But but you still

1421
01:22:43,876 --> 01:22:47,476
Speaker 2: make all songs your own. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's

1422
01:22:47,556 --> 01:22:49,996
Speaker 2: just you know, that stuff happened so much.

1423
01:22:49,876 --> 01:22:50,636
Speaker 4: Yeah back then.

1424
01:22:52,996 --> 01:22:55,756
Speaker 6: You know, it's a shame the way people are treated.

1425
01:22:56,356 --> 01:23:00,796
Speaker 6: You know, it's not just me, you know. I'm sure

1426
01:23:03,756 --> 01:23:05,076
Speaker 6: the record business has.

1427
01:23:04,956 --> 01:23:10,316
Speaker 4: Been tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky, but it was much trickier

1428
01:23:10,356 --> 01:23:12,436
Speaker 4: back then. Yeah, yeah, way back.

1429
01:23:12,716 --> 01:23:15,916
Speaker 7: That was and and and and I was doing stuff.

1430
01:23:16,276 --> 01:23:19,156
Speaker 7: You know, I was afraid because I was these were

1431
01:23:19,276 --> 01:23:23,836
Speaker 7: these were secular songs, yeah, and and and you do

1432
01:23:23,956 --> 01:23:28,556
Speaker 7: something secular against the gospel stuff. I was lucky. I

1433
01:23:28,596 --> 01:23:31,596
Speaker 7: don't know how it happened. I recorded houses, not a home.

1434
01:23:31,876 --> 01:23:34,756
Speaker 7: I recorded a second and and the church people didn't

1435
01:23:34,756 --> 01:23:35,716
Speaker 7: say nothing about it.

1436
01:23:35,836 --> 01:23:37,956
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you you got in trouble for that.

1437
01:23:38,316 --> 01:23:41,796
Speaker 7: I could have got could but they didn't. You know

1438
01:23:41,876 --> 01:23:45,236
Speaker 7: what they messed with. I'll take you there. They wanted

1439
01:23:45,276 --> 01:23:47,556
Speaker 7: to put us out of church. Wow, they say, the

1440
01:23:47,636 --> 01:23:51,596
Speaker 7: stable singers and singing the devil's music. Wow, the devil music.

1441
01:23:51,716 --> 01:23:54,716
Speaker 7: I said, you all, you gotta listen to our lyrics.

1442
01:23:55,076 --> 01:23:58,356
Speaker 7: They heard this beat and then the people would jump

1443
01:23:58,396 --> 01:24:01,196
Speaker 7: up and dance, and I'll take you there, you know,

1444
01:24:01,396 --> 01:24:06,396
Speaker 7: because but up until I'll take you there, we just

1445
01:24:06,516 --> 01:24:08,076
Speaker 7: sang with my father's guitar.

1446
01:24:08,676 --> 01:24:11,276
Speaker 6: We didn't have no rhythm section. Yeah, we just sing

1447
01:24:11,276 --> 01:24:12,116
Speaker 6: with dad his guitar.

1448
01:24:12,676 --> 01:24:15,396
Speaker 7: And and but when this rhythm section came on, I'll

1449
01:24:15,396 --> 01:24:17,396
Speaker 7: take you there singing.

1450
01:24:17,436 --> 01:24:19,036
Speaker 4: The Devil's it sounded different.

1451
01:24:19,556 --> 01:24:23,396
Speaker 7: Look, we're telling you I know a place. Ain't nobody crying?

1452
01:24:23,556 --> 01:24:24,796
Speaker 7: I mean, ain't nobody world.

1453
01:24:24,916 --> 01:24:30,596
Speaker 4: That's a gospel song, taking you to heaven? Yeah, I mean,

1454
01:24:32,036 --> 01:24:33,356
Speaker 4: and and lo and behold.

1455
01:24:34,196 --> 01:24:36,916
Speaker 7: After all the interviews we did talking to these people,

1456
01:24:37,716 --> 01:24:39,356
Speaker 7: they invited us back to church.

1457
01:24:40,356 --> 01:24:41,396
Speaker 4: We go back to church.

1458
01:24:41,436 --> 01:24:45,636
Speaker 7: The first song requested in the pool bit I'll take

1459
01:24:45,676 --> 01:24:46,116
Speaker 7: you there.

1460
01:24:46,676 --> 01:24:50,036
Speaker 4: You know what I said. You know you just don't

1461
01:24:50,116 --> 01:24:51,876
Speaker 4: know what to do to please people.

1462
01:24:51,956 --> 01:24:54,316
Speaker 2: It's true. That's why you gotta just speak your truth,

1463
01:24:55,076 --> 01:24:58,516
Speaker 2: sing your truth right and spread some love.

1464
01:24:58,636 --> 01:25:01,956
Speaker 4: Spread love, put out love, Yes, put it out there,

1465
01:25:01,996 --> 01:25:04,196
Speaker 4: and that's what you do. I'm gonna do it. I'm

1466
01:25:04,196 --> 01:25:07,236
Speaker 4: gonna keep on doing it. You are my favorite fall

1467
01:25:07,316 --> 01:25:11,796
Speaker 4: of love. You, my little sweetheart. I love you so much.

1468
01:25:12,796 --> 01:25:14,516
Speaker 4: Do you have one more song in you?

1469
01:25:15,156 --> 01:25:17,236
Speaker 2: Or can I play? Can I play you a song?

1470
01:25:17,316 --> 01:25:18,796
Speaker 2: And you chime in if you want.

1471
01:25:18,796 --> 01:25:20,436
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll end it. We can.

1472
01:25:20,636 --> 01:25:27,836
Speaker 2: Let's do it the album. Pops made the album uh

1473
01:25:28,716 --> 01:25:34,396
Speaker 2: that song friendship, Oh yes, and then Jeff and the

1474
01:25:34,476 --> 01:25:37,956
Speaker 2: crew they kind of fixed it up right and and

1475
01:25:38,116 --> 01:25:41,676
Speaker 2: recorded all recorded like you weren't happy with it, and it.

1476
01:25:41,596 --> 01:25:43,156
Speaker 4: Never got that's right.

1477
01:25:43,516 --> 01:25:46,636
Speaker 7: And tweety did all that for Pop's album. That was

1478
01:25:46,796 --> 01:25:50,356
Speaker 7: that's his last work, and I wanted it. I wanted

1479
01:25:50,356 --> 01:25:52,236
Speaker 7: to put it out there, but I wanted to put

1480
01:25:52,236 --> 01:25:53,956
Speaker 7: it out properly and write.

1481
01:25:54,636 --> 01:25:56,476
Speaker 4: And so he.

1482
01:25:56,556 --> 01:26:00,396
Speaker 2: Re recorded all the stuff that you weren't happy with, right. Yes,

1483
01:26:00,476 --> 01:26:02,756
Speaker 2: he took the tracks of Pops and you guys singing,

1484
01:26:04,916 --> 01:26:05,276
Speaker 2: and I.

1485
01:26:05,356 --> 01:26:06,276
Speaker 4: Was so pleased.

1486
01:26:06,636 --> 01:26:10,756
Speaker 6: I come up in here to listen and tears just flowed.

1487
01:26:11,596 --> 01:26:11,796
Speaker 18: You know.

1488
01:26:11,876 --> 01:26:14,796
Speaker 6: My sister Vaughn and I we we came to check

1489
01:26:14,836 --> 01:26:15,196
Speaker 6: it out.

1490
01:26:15,996 --> 01:26:16,356
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1491
01:26:16,476 --> 01:26:19,836
Speaker 2: J It's a beautiful recording and it's a great song.

1492
01:26:20,476 --> 01:26:21,436
Speaker 2: That's a pop song.

1493
01:26:21,956 --> 01:26:25,516
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a good song. It's a really good song.

1494
01:26:50,636 --> 01:26:59,716
Speaker 4: Say watch my longtime friend, something's bothering You tell me

1495
01:26:59,956 --> 01:27:02,276
Speaker 4: what the problem is.

1496
01:27:03,316 --> 01:27:05,436
Speaker 6: I see what I can do.

1497
01:27:08,516 --> 01:27:15,916
Speaker 4: There's a times we disagree. We agree more that we don't.

1498
01:27:16,796 --> 01:27:20,276
Speaker 6: We won't always see I do lie.

1499
01:27:20,676 --> 01:27:24,916
Speaker 4: But we will more than we won't because we.

1500
01:27:25,116 --> 01:27:32,036
Speaker 17: Got our friendship, the kind of last life time.

1501
01:27:33,636 --> 01:27:36,436
Speaker 4: Through all the timeships.

1502
01:27:36,476 --> 01:27:46,756
Speaker 6: You know you're a friend of mine. We got our friendship, the.

1503
01:27:46,836 --> 01:27:53,756
Speaker 2: Kind of last life time, through all those hardships.

1504
01:27:53,796 --> 01:27:56,676
Speaker 6: You know you're a friend of mine.

1505
01:28:02,076 --> 01:28:06,516
Speaker 4: You want to sing, what oh.

1506
01:28:05,196 --> 01:28:09,916
Speaker 6: Talk to me, oh parle of mine? If you feel

1507
01:28:10,436 --> 01:28:17,196
Speaker 6: you can't go home, don't you sweat. It ain't over yet,

1508
01:28:17,916 --> 01:28:25,236
Speaker 6: this spawn with Shelly Strong. I've been awall. You are

1509
01:28:25,396 --> 01:28:31,636
Speaker 6: right now. You saw me through it all. I lean

1510
01:28:32,036 --> 01:28:36,196
Speaker 6: on you now you can lean on me. I bet

1511
01:28:36,316 --> 01:28:44,196
Speaker 6: I won't lady you fall because we got friendship kind

1512
01:28:44,196 --> 01:28:50,676
Speaker 6: of lasts a life time through all the hardship.

1513
01:28:51,236 --> 01:28:57,756
Speaker 4: You know you're a friend of mine because we got

1514
01:28:58,316 --> 01:29:02,196
Speaker 4: fast ship, the kind.

1515
01:29:01,876 --> 01:29:08,996
Speaker 6: Of lasts life time. Who are those harships? You know

1516
01:29:09,756 --> 01:29:17,916
Speaker 6: you're a friend of mine. If you're on the street,

1517
01:29:18,196 --> 01:29:19,236
Speaker 6: I'll take your hat.

1518
01:29:19,796 --> 01:29:22,236
Speaker 4: You're hungry, I'll give you food.

1519
01:29:22,756 --> 01:29:26,196
Speaker 2: God if it's money you need.

1520
01:29:26,556 --> 01:29:31,036
Speaker 6: I got some saved. If you're sick, I'll visit you.

1521
01:29:33,556 --> 01:29:38,436
Speaker 2: I've been with you all right now, you saw me

1522
01:29:39,396 --> 01:29:40,356
Speaker 2: through it all.

1523
01:29:42,236 --> 01:29:44,076
Speaker 4: I'll lean on you now.

1524
01:29:44,076 --> 01:29:45,556
Speaker 6: You can lean on me.

1525
01:29:47,116 --> 01:29:52,716
Speaker 17: I won't let you fall because we got friend ship,

1526
01:29:54,476 --> 01:29:57,676
Speaker 17: the kind of last live time.

1527
01:29:59,036 --> 01:30:01,836
Speaker 4: Through all hardships.

1528
01:30:02,596 --> 01:30:09,636
Speaker 6: You know you a friend of Miney, we got friend

1529
01:30:10,356 --> 01:30:15,156
Speaker 6: ship kind of last life time.

1530
01:30:17,196 --> 01:30:26,756
Speaker 9: As you know you're a friend of mine through all.

1531
01:30:26,956 --> 01:30:28,676
Speaker 6: The hard ships.

1532
01:30:28,876 --> 01:30:31,196
Speaker 4: You know you're a friend of.

1533
01:30:31,436 --> 01:30:37,916
Speaker 6: Mine, through all the hard shops.

1534
01:30:38,076 --> 01:30:48,476
Speaker 4: You know you're a friend of mine. I had a

1535
01:30:48,636 --> 01:30:51,636
Speaker 4: fight that came from Crime Girl. I love that song

1536
01:30:51,716 --> 01:30:55,036
Speaker 4: and I love you. Thanks for thanks for talking with me.

1537
01:30:55,636 --> 01:30:59,556
Speaker 7: I'm so happy. I'm so happy you invited me. I've

1538
01:30:59,676 --> 01:31:02,236
Speaker 7: never done one of these. What do you call it

1539
01:31:02,276 --> 01:31:03,116
Speaker 7: a podcast?

1540
01:31:03,156 --> 01:31:03,836
Speaker 4: Podcast?

1541
01:31:04,316 --> 01:31:07,076
Speaker 2: Well, I'm honored that you joined me. Thank you, Maavi.

1542
01:31:07,436 --> 01:31:12,316
Speaker 2: You are loved by all who know you. Ask for everything, always.

1543
01:31:13,436 --> 01:31:13,716
Speaker 5: Love it.

1544
01:31:13,836 --> 01:31:15,276
Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you.

1545
01:31:17,316 --> 01:31:27,636
Speaker 14: Just playing alone, Thanks for listening to the show that

1546
01:31:27,836 --> 01:31:29,716
Speaker 14: was made a Staples incredible.

1547
01:31:30,236 --> 01:31:31,356
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a fun way.

1548
01:31:31,676 --> 01:31:33,556
Speaker 5: I just want her to call me and tell me

1549
01:31:33,596 --> 01:31:34,716
Speaker 5: everything's going to be okay.

1550
01:31:35,236 --> 01:31:36,316
Speaker 4: I believe her.

1551
01:31:36,476 --> 01:31:40,636
Speaker 2: We should just call her, Hey, can you tell me

1552
01:31:40,796 --> 01:31:42,396
Speaker 2: everything's gonna be okay?

1553
01:31:43,236 --> 01:31:45,436
Speaker 4: I'm sure she probably needs to hear it too.

1554
01:31:45,436 --> 01:31:48,516
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's true, Yeah, it's true, she is not alone.

1555
01:31:48,796 --> 01:31:50,996
Speaker 2: In fact, let's let's wrap this up so we can

1556
01:31:50,996 --> 01:31:55,236
Speaker 2: go call her. How much thanks for listening to the show.

1557
01:31:59,716 --> 01:32:02,236
Speaker 2: Our show was recorded by Mark Greenberg at The Loft

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01:32:02,236 --> 01:32:07,236
Speaker 2: in Chicago, mixed by Jamie Landry and additional engineering by

1559
01:32:07,316 --> 01:32:11,356
Speaker 2: Greg Tobler. Produce by Me and Sarah Oda Sarah Oda

1560
01:32:11,396 --> 01:32:14,276
Speaker 2: and WA photography by Shervin Linez.

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01:32:14,836 --> 01:32:17,276
Speaker 4: Artwork by Eliza Fry. See you Later,