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Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Mike Keith. The Titans are back from
Speaker 1: London after losing to Baltimore twenty four to sixteen. I
Speaker 1: visited with Mike Rabel on Monday to discuss the loss
Speaker 1: to the Ravens and what to expect from bye week.
Speaker 1: Here's my conversation with Mike Rabel on the OTP. Mike,
Speaker 1: you met with the media this afternoon, and you're obviously
Speaker 1: asked about Ryan tannehill status. If you don't mind for
Speaker 1: those who didn't have a chance to hear kind of
Speaker 1: update people on what you said about your quarterback.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, he's got a high ankle sprain and
Speaker 2: we'll see you know, he's been through this before. And
Speaker 2: you know, I just got caught in the pocket there
Speaker 2: and a guy came down on it, and I know
Speaker 2: how tough Ryan is.
Speaker 3: And we've got a little bit of time, so uh to.
Speaker 2: Have to give you any more information that I don't
Speaker 2: have any more than that.
Speaker 3: So we'll have to make sure.
Speaker 2: That you know that we get everybody ready, you know,
Speaker 2: whether that's Ryan or whether that's Malik or will we'll
Speaker 2: we'll have to have a plan based on on his
Speaker 2: health and everybody else's health.
Speaker 1: Get back from London. Obviously, the two guys with the
Speaker 1: concussions are of concern to Titans fans, Chris Moore and
Speaker 1: Josh Wiley.
Speaker 4: How are those guys doing right now? Great?
Speaker 2: From what I've seen, both doing well. And they'll they'll
Speaker 2: work their way uh through through the protocol and and
Speaker 2: we'll see how how they progress and what they're going
Speaker 2: to be able to do this week or heading into
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 4: How much will you do this week as far as practice,
Speaker 4: would like.
Speaker 3: To do some you know, I think everybody's got a
Speaker 3: different plan.
Speaker 2: But we have to you know, we have to think
Speaker 2: about winning this week, you know, finding a way to
Speaker 2: win this week and get stuff accomplished for each player,
Speaker 2: for each position group, for each unit, and for this team.
Speaker 2: So that's my goal, that's my thoughts, is trying to
Speaker 2: do the things that we feel like are going to
Speaker 2: help us at this point in time.
Speaker 1: Talked about some of the good things that you saw
Speaker 1: during the course of the game with Baltimore. One of
Speaker 1: the things to us would have been Harold Landry. We
Speaker 1: called his name quite a bit as you reviewed the
Speaker 1: tape on the way back. Did he play as well
Speaker 1: as we thought he did?
Speaker 2: He ran around and chased and you know, we have
Speaker 2: to win one on ones, you know, whether that's Harold, Jeff,
Speaker 2: Denico Arden, guys that we think that that can affect
Speaker 2: the quarterback when they get one on ones, that that's
Speaker 2: the expectation. So they all have to we all have
Speaker 2: to win more one on ones. It's what this game
Speaker 2: comes down to, whether it's coverage, whether you're trying to
Speaker 2: get open or you're trying to block somebody, you're trying
Speaker 2: to get past them.
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy Budding is another guy who continues to show
Speaker 1: up his ability to battle one of the things you
Speaker 1: admire most about him. Well, I think he's an instinctive player.
Speaker 2: I think he's smart. I think he knows kind of
Speaker 2: what to get away with, what what can't.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I think he sees the picture and kind of you know,
Speaker 2: challenges you know when he has to. And you know,
Speaker 2: again those are the things that we're talking about. The
Speaker 2: play that he made is just making the ones that
Speaker 2: you're supposed to make and you know, took advantage of
Speaker 2: an errant throw and again it was there and he
Speaker 2: made the play.
Speaker 3: And that's that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: It is not doing anything above and beyond just making
Speaker 2: the ones that we're supposed to make.
Speaker 1: Have you made a decision what you're going to do
Speaker 1: at the left tackle spot after Nicholas Petifrere comes in
Speaker 1: for Andre Dillard yesterday.
Speaker 2: I know I'm not going to make those decisions less
Speaker 2: than twenty four hours after the game. So we've got
Speaker 2: a long a lot of time before we play another game.
Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's talk a little bit about some
Speaker 1: of the other guys who've jumped out in the first
Speaker 1: six games of the season. And I want to go
Speaker 1: back to Taja Spears. I mean, takes that quick screen
Speaker 1: and just making people miss all over the field.
Speaker 4: That's the part of the game you love about him.
Speaker 2: We have to manufacture more touches, but he didn't do
Speaker 2: that on his own. You know, there's there's three offensive
Speaker 2: linemen out there, there's a receiver out there at the
Speaker 2: point of attack, and there were some really really cool
Speaker 2: efforts and once you go watch that play again, uh
Speaker 2: Nick Petite and uh Brew watching those guys run and
Speaker 2: everybody trying to finish, and then obviously, you know, the.
Speaker 3: Guy with the ball has got to do his job,
Speaker 3: in which Taj.
Speaker 2: Did, and you know, I'm just going to continue to
Speaker 2: need those types of efforts from him and from everybody
Speaker 2: else that we give the ball to.
Speaker 1: We said that a lot out of Aaron Brewer, and
Speaker 1: it feels like he's taking more and more of a
Speaker 1: leadership role, not just with his words, but with his
Speaker 1: style of play. Is he becoming that type of player
Speaker 1: who really sort of symbolizes what you want the Titans
Speaker 1: to be?
Speaker 2: Well, I hope that would symbolize anything that we would
Speaker 2: want to do with this organization on the field. Off
Speaker 2: the field. It certainly plays with a with a level
Speaker 2: of speed and effort and violence and in the way
Speaker 2: that he carries himself. Not the biggest player, but you know,
Speaker 2: I think he's kind of doing the things the way
Speaker 2: that we would want him done, and you know, we
Speaker 2: just need to kind of get that consistency throughout the
Speaker 2: rest of the unit. And and I think that we're
Speaker 2: close at times. There's a lot of cool runs in there,
Speaker 2: a lot of good protections in there, and then you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes not so good.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately on third down.
Speaker 1: The difficulty for the Titans in the ball game against
Speaker 1: the Ravens just forty six offensive plays.
Speaker 2: It's not enough to create enough place. It's not enough
Speaker 2: to get the ball to Derek enough. It's not enough
Speaker 2: to get the ball to Taja enough or check or
Speaker 2: hop and you know, any of them.
Speaker 3: That's just.
Speaker 2: You have to be so good with the forty six
Speaker 2: that you have, you know, and when you look at
Speaker 2: the forty six plays and how many of them were
Speaker 2: third downs, how many of them were two minute when
Speaker 2: you're down two scores. So really in the bulk of it,
Speaker 2: just just not enough plays that to complement each other.
Speaker 1: As a coaching staff, what are the things that you'll
Speaker 1: focus on during the course of this off week, Well,
Speaker 1: it's about self improvement.
Speaker 2: It's about trying to figure out what our players can
Speaker 2: improve on, making sure that there's a level of cohesion
Speaker 2: to our position group, that we're focused on unit execution
Speaker 2: in all three phases, and then also building the team
Speaker 2: pride and team success is critical, and those are the
Speaker 2: things that we're going to focus on that I'm going
Speaker 2: to explain to the players.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons gave an interview in the locker room after
Speaker 1: the game, and one of the things he said is
Speaker 1: we need to focus on the guys who are ready
Speaker 1: to play, and the guys who are not ready to play,
Speaker 1: they need to move along. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: heard Jeff's comments that we played earlier, but strong statement
Speaker 1: from number ninety eight as a former player and now
Speaker 1: as a head coach, is that the kind of thing
Speaker 1: you want to hear at a moment like this from
Speaker 1: him specifically.
Speaker 2: And Jeff's earning the right to say what he wants
Speaker 2: and what's on his mind. And again, when you lose,
Speaker 2: you're frustrated. You know, We've we want to win. That's
Speaker 2: why we come to work, That's why we do what
Speaker 2: we do. And yeah, we need everybody. We need the
Speaker 2: guys that are out there to play better. We need
Speaker 2: the ones that aren't out there, uh to come and
Speaker 2: help us so that we, uh, you know, we could
Speaker 2: start putting something together. And uh, you know, but I'll
Speaker 2: say the guys that you know to stepped in, whether
Speaker 2: that's a practice squad or guys that uh you know,
Speaker 2: played more snaps and than maybe what they normally would.
Speaker 2: You know, I got we got some pretty good efforts from.
Speaker 1: Them, like Jaliel Johnson or Kyle Peco in the defensive line.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: You know, I think Jalil played uh much improved from
Speaker 2: from the indie game. Played with his hands, played with
Speaker 2: some pad level showed up.
Speaker 3: You know. Peco is as good as he's been for
Speaker 3: us in the game.
Speaker 2: It just did not only his ability to to knock
Speaker 2: back the tackle a few times and create some some
Speaker 2: no game plays one on short yardage. I had a
Speaker 2: couple of cool effort plays. And those are the things
Speaker 2: that we're going to continue to do that are going
Speaker 2: to help us win. There's some things that we're going
Speaker 2: to have to eliminate, but we're going to start there
Speaker 2: with the things that help us win.
Speaker 1: You felt like you got your run defense back under
Speaker 1: control against Baltimore or more of the way you wanted
Speaker 1: it least.
Speaker 2: And a quarterback, however many he had when he dropped
Speaker 2: back to throw the ball, I mean where they're not
Speaker 2: even playing a.
Speaker 4: Schedule on a run.
Speaker 3: Whatever those were, Take those out.
Speaker 2: And then they're not going to take out the ones
Speaker 2: that he kept in his own read. That's the responsibility
Speaker 2: we have to make sure that we're good there, But
Speaker 2: there were some pretty good, pretty good walls, pretty good edges,
Speaker 2: some pretty good tackles, toss crack they tried us on
Speaker 2: and you know we had guys running to the football
Speaker 2: and tackling.
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Speaker 1: How are you hanging in there? Are you jet lagged
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 5: It won't hit me until you know later in the
Speaker 5: later in the week. How it always comes and bites
Speaker 5: you back. But you know what, the flight wasn't back
Speaker 5: coming back, and we all made it back safely. And
Speaker 5: I think that was a little bit of a turbo
Speaker 5: in that playing coming back. I think we'd bet timming, y'all.
Speaker 1: It was nicely done, well done by the piloty congratulations
Speaker 1: all right. So I have gathered some things to discuss
Speaker 1: and I'm just going to throw them out and you
Speaker 1: can respond however you wish. They're just some notes, some stats.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're very newsworthy, but they seemed
Speaker 1: insightful to me, So here we go. TAIJ Spears got
Speaker 1: only four touches at New Orleans. Over the next four games,
Speaker 1: Spears averaged nine touches per game, with those numbers growing weekly.
Speaker 1: In London, however, TAIJ Spears had only five touches, the
Speaker 1: last of which went for forty eight yards on a
Speaker 1: quick screen.
Speaker 4: Are you surprised by that? Surprised by his use a
Speaker 4: little bit?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because he's been proven the more reps that get,
Speaker 5: the better he does. And it's not like he has
Speaker 5: to have you know, the high number, double digit numbers, twenty,
Speaker 5: you know, thirty, it's just his ability to pop an offense.
Speaker 5: His ability to be a splash player is what you saw.
Speaker 5: I think the tailtale sign of it was in the
Speaker 5: second half of that game, when the Titans were behind.
Speaker 5: You give the ball to a guy like Taza and
Speaker 5: it's not like he had, you know, tons of guys
Speaker 5: in front of him, his bob and weaving inside of
Speaker 5: defensive traffic, almost making Kylevin NOI rip his growing As
Speaker 5: far as the way he made him split on the
Speaker 5: run and get down to the tight red zone. I
Speaker 5: think it shows you the capabilities he has when it
Speaker 5: comes down to his play making ability. That's what's most
Speaker 5: exciting about him. And you have to ask that question,
Speaker 5: what more can he do with the ball in his hand?
Speaker 5: Even more moving forward? And of course that means you
Speaker 5: may have to take reps from somebody else that somebody
Speaker 5: else may end up being Dereck Henry. But if this
Speaker 5: is something that can be very advantageous to this offense,
Speaker 5: the ability to include more explosion plays, the ability to
Speaker 5: keep defenses unbalanced is what Taj kind of proves for you.
Speaker 5: And also having the ability to run your offense.
Speaker 4: It's good.
Speaker 5: I'd love to see a little bit more of it,
Speaker 5: But of course I'm not the OC or the head coach.
Speaker 4: You gotta make those decisions.
Speaker 5: But when you look at the results of what he's
Speaker 5: capable of doing throughout the course of the game when
Speaker 5: he's had those opportunities, he's earned it for sure, Mike.
Speaker 6: I think it's what they liked about him and hoped
Speaker 6: for him when they drafted him, and I think now
Speaker 6: that they're seeing things, even in the smaller sample size,
Speaker 6: as long as those plays start becoming explosive, I think
Speaker 6: you will see an uptick in his touches in this.
Speaker 6: We'll see after the bye week, they got thirteen days
Speaker 6: before their next game, and then we'll just see how
Speaker 6: this all plays out.
Speaker 4: Next one.
Speaker 1: Titans are averaging twenty four rushing attempts per game. The
Speaker 1: opponent actually more twenty eight rushes per game. Of course,
Speaker 1: coming off two games where the Colts went for one
Speaker 1: ninety three and the Ravens went for one thirty nine.
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry averaging sixteen carries per game, which is down
Speaker 1: for him. Did we ever think the Titans would average
Speaker 1: less rushing attempts than the opponent or is it just
Speaker 1: the fact that they've been behind.
Speaker 5: A little bit of both of them behind makes you
Speaker 5: elect to throwing the ball a little bit more too.
Speaker 4: That always plays a part in it.
Speaker 5: But the time of possession by the opposing teams have
Speaker 5: been a little bit more than what the Titans have
Speaker 5: in the last few weeks, Mike. And with that being
Speaker 5: the case, and they're able to turn and work this
Speaker 5: defense down with them being out on the field a
Speaker 5: little bit longer, you have to resort to your sub
Speaker 5: packages to where Derek's not running the ball because you're
Speaker 5: playing catch up with what the coach did at their
Speaker 5: home stadium on how they ran the ball. You gotta
Speaker 5: play ketchup. You got to get the ball out of
Speaker 5: your hand, and that means relying upon the passing game
Speaker 5: or going to your sub packages with a guy like
Speaker 5: Tazie Spears.
Speaker 4: The other guys in the game.
Speaker 5: There are weapons on this team that's just capable of
Speaker 5: making plays for you, and you love to see Derek
Speaker 5: get those reps. But when you're behind or time of
Speaker 5: possession becomes a key figure in games. You gotta get
Speaker 5: away from twenty two. And I know a lot of
Speaker 5: fans don't want to see that be the case, because
Speaker 5: there it gets better over time. But when you're pressed
Speaker 5: against the clock. These are the results of it.
Speaker 6: Ramon, You're right, because you score gets separated in this
Speaker 6: and you have to go away from what is normally
Speaker 6: the usual hand that touches the ball. I mean, look
Speaker 6: at the time of possession difference in London. I mean
Speaker 6: the the Ravens added thirty five forty two to the
Speaker 6: Titans twenty four to eighteen. And when things get out
Speaker 6: of hand like that, you have to go to a
Speaker 6: different option. Well, it comes down to third down conversions.
Speaker 6: The Titans' only third down conversion came fifty eight minutes
Speaker 6: into the game. It was on the Taje. Spears quick
Speaker 6: screen that went for forty eight yards. That was a
Speaker 6: third and seven play. Up until then, they were zero
Speaker 6: of eight on third downs. The Ravens finish eight of sixteen,
Speaker 6: largely because they stayed on the field.
Speaker 1: You got it right, Rhett. The difference in time of
Speaker 1: possession was eleven minutes and twenty four seconds. The number
Speaker 1: of plays seventy for the Ravens offense, forty six for
Speaker 1: the Titans.
Speaker 5: Third down mattters a lot. It's the continuation of plays,
Speaker 5: it's the flow.
Speaker 4: Of the game.
Speaker 5: If you have no rhyme or reason to what works
Speaker 5: for your offense. It confuses you. It's frustration and you
Speaker 5: could see that in this team on game day a
Speaker 5: little bit too. The ability to work a team down. Honestly,
Speaker 5: the way Baltimore Ravens did this defense is past weekend
Speaker 5: is what you look for out of a team. Seventy
Speaker 5: plays is actually above the average. Most teams average about
Speaker 5: sixty two plays a game. And for your offense to
Speaker 5: only have forty six plays offensively, that means no rhyme
Speaker 5: or reason. That means turnovers, that means negative plays. That's
Speaker 5: nothing goods coming out of that. Because again, if you're
Speaker 5: twenty off, well almost twenty plays off of what the
Speaker 5: average is in the NFL, that's a frustrating day.
Speaker 1: There's no way to run Dereck Henry twenty five times
Speaker 1: if you only are getting forty six plays.
Speaker 4: Think about what we're saying right here.
Speaker 5: And yes, Derek did have the big explosion play, right,
Speaker 5: but think about where that play came from. That came
Speaker 5: with Derek ben on the field with Taj. That also
Speaker 5: came with a fake jet sweep to Taj where Derek
Speaker 5: kept the ball and hit the side. I know I
Speaker 5: was just saying, just do that. You can't play offense
Speaker 5: in the NFL with the King Kat.
Speaker 4: You have to get to where your.
Speaker 5: Quarterback, your offensive line, your wide receivers, your tight ends,
Speaker 5: your running backs all move the changs. This says a
Speaker 5: team effort when it breaks down, and that's what's most frustrating.
Speaker 4: You leave out of the game.
Speaker 5: You kind of say yourself, what more can we have done?
Speaker 5: And the simpol as of Mike is what you just said.
Speaker 5: Convert on third downs?
Speaker 1: Right, you want to hear a strange stat. Here's a
Speaker 1: strange stat. Opponents are converting forty one percent of their
Speaker 1: third downs against the Titans, which isn't really that bad,
Speaker 1: but they're largely doing it because they are completing nearly
Speaker 1: seventy two percent of their passes against the Titans defense. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a strong mark any time, but that's
Speaker 1: well above the league average. The Titans are converting just
Speaker 1: thirty four percent of their third downs, and their quarterbacks
Speaker 1: or their passers whomever it might be, completing just sixty
Speaker 1: two percent of their passes, which is below the league average.
Speaker 1: So nearly it's really about a nine percent difference in
Speaker 1: completion rate. Which keeps the clock running, keeps the chains moving.
Speaker 1: It's a little fact that you don't look at, but
Speaker 1: when I saw it, it blew me away.
Speaker 6: Ratt and it makes sense as to why just in
Speaker 6: yesterday's game in London that you had seventy offensive plays
Speaker 6: by the Ravens and only forty six to the Titans
Speaker 6: in this because they were able to keep those long
Speaker 6: sustained drives, which is exactly what the Titans were trying
Speaker 6: to do against that Baltimore Ravens defense, and unfortunately there
Speaker 6: were three and outs involved.
Speaker 5: It was and Mike, that's so fascinating hearing that so too.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing about it. You're dealing with.
Speaker 5: Sometimes Jimmy's and Joel's, mattter a little bit more too.
Speaker 5: You've been without Tier Tar, you got some young guys
Speaker 5: coming into Jalil Johnson play well, Na kwon.
Speaker 4: A plays last week.
Speaker 5: We're looking at all these things that are going into
Speaker 5: the defensive side of the ball too, and of course
Speaker 5: you got to look at the guys that are either
Speaker 5: new or coming back from injury. Harold Landry still finding
Speaker 5: his footing is a big play in that. I look
Speaker 5: at also Ard and Key, the plays that he has
Speaker 5: to make moving forward. And what's expected of this defense.
Speaker 5: If you got one guy that's getting double team and
Speaker 5: Big Jeff gets his fair share, the other guys got.
Speaker 4: To get home.
Speaker 5: The linebackers have to make their plays in open space too,
Speaker 5: And it's one way to get to the quarterback. I
Speaker 5: mean to affect an offense. Let's get to the quarterback
Speaker 5: that's not happening at the rate that you love to
Speaker 5: see from your defense. And this defense has always been
Speaker 5: one of those types of teams that drags you to
Speaker 5: the deep end and they're not capable of doing that
Speaker 5: right now. And I think in person starts with a
Speaker 5: little bit of personnel with what's happening defensively for this team.
Speaker 5: Get guys healthy, make your plays when they come your way.
Speaker 6: It's not happening, And it goes a layer deeper in
Speaker 6: the Ravens game because what has been a strong in
Speaker 6: your special teams part had some big plays in sudden change.
Speaker 6: You had one with a muffed punt by Kyle Phillips
Speaker 6: on the one yard line that ends up being a
Speaker 6: field goal in that and then you'll allow a seventy
Speaker 6: yard return by Devin DuVernay.
Speaker 1: You've hit it perfectly. Special teams produced a literal six
Speaker 1: point advantage for Baltimore. Duverna's seventy yard punt return produced
Speaker 1: a field goal. By the way, great job by Stonehouse
Speaker 1: to get him out of bounds and his GPS he
Speaker 1: tracked at like nineteen point eight four minus Ryan Stonehouse.
Speaker 1: Stone House Wow tracked crazy in terms of running DuVernay
Speaker 1: down and getting him out of bounds. Well, that produced
Speaker 1: a field goal, and then Kyle Phillips muffed punt produced
Speaker 1: three more points right at the end of the half.
Speaker 1: Six points that the Ravens got just in the punting game.
Speaker 5: You know what's fascinating about that, Michael is Well, we
Speaker 5: talked about the defense a second ago.
Speaker 4: The defense is still playing well enough.
Speaker 5: Just you gotta get assistance from those either special teams
Speaker 5: or the offensive side of the ball. I know a
Speaker 5: lot of people are thinking, man, you're supposed to just
Speaker 5: let that ball drop while we're trying to catch it. Well,
Speaker 5: his job is to feel punts. How Hell's is right.
Speaker 5: It's unfortunate that it happened three points out of that. Okay,
Speaker 5: we'll live with that. But of course, the ever by
Speaker 5: Ron Stonehouse and the efforts of that defense after that
Speaker 5: big return speaks a lot about what they're capable of doing.
Speaker 5: But when you put yourself in bad situations like that,
Speaker 5: whether that be from the special teams or whether that
Speaker 5: be from turnovers, that makes a long day at the office.
Speaker 5: And it just, honestly, Mike, seventy plays grinds you down
Speaker 5: when it's your job.
Speaker 4: To stop people.
Speaker 5: And if you're not stopping people, or you're stopping people
Speaker 5: to a point, you will find yourself on the short
Speaker 5: end of the stick.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: And then you have the physical fatigue of Baltimore, which
Speaker 1: is on both sides of the ball, and then the
Speaker 1: mental fatigue of having to play Lamar Jackson, which means
Speaker 1: you have to be on your toes every second of
Speaker 1: the day. You know you're gonna give up some yards
Speaker 1: against him. You know you're gonna give up some plays,
Speaker 1: and I mean, you're not holding them to one hundred yards.
Speaker 1: And that's the way it is. You're you're having to
Speaker 1: manage this guy and not let him make the big play.
Speaker 5: And what was good I thought was in that tight
Speaker 5: red zone area except for the scrambled play. Does you
Speaker 5: speak of the anxiety of going against Lamar Jackson that
Speaker 5: scramble plates is they Flowers, Well, stop dead in this
Speaker 5: track until you keep I mean, Zay Flowers, a four
Speaker 5: to three guy. You know you're gonna lose them if
Speaker 5: you're trying to watch Lamar be dynamic. Also, but if
Speaker 5: that was your only touchdown giving up again, there's something
Speaker 5: to build on. But it's a matter of having everybody
Speaker 5: on the same page. And I think that's why you
Speaker 5: hear some frustration from the fan base, coaches, and even players.
Speaker 4: Now, Mike Well, I mean the defense is not playing badly.
Speaker 6: No, And I'm so glad you pivoted to this because
Speaker 6: I'm looking at the explosive plays. You know, they give
Speaker 6: the ten longest plays for each team, and the four
Speaker 6: explosive plays they were all passes from Lamar Jackson to
Speaker 6: his receivers, including tight ends. No scores on those immediate plays, right,
Speaker 6: you didn't. Now they resulted in some But the other
Speaker 6: part is justin Tucker had six field goals in this
Speaker 6: There weren't six touchdowns.
Speaker 1: There were six field goals. Well, here's what the defense
Speaker 1: is doing so far. The Titans six opponents are averaging
Speaker 1: three hundred thirty nine yards per game. One hundred and
Speaker 1: two rushing, two hundred and eighty seven or two hundred
Speaker 1: thirty seven passing. Titans opponents have nine touchdowns in six games,
Speaker 1: eighteen field goals. They're averaging nineteen point five per game. So,
Speaker 1: by no means is the defense playing poorly. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't say that. The Titans, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: are averaging two hundred and eighty four yards of total
Speaker 1: offense one ten rushing, one seventy three passing. Obviously there's
Speaker 1: some rounding in there. I know, I know one ten
Speaker 1: and one seventy three don't add up to two eighty four,
Speaker 1: but there's rounding. The Titans have scored eight touchdowns and
Speaker 1: have sixteen field goals. They're averaging seventeen point three per game.
Speaker 1: So not a lot happening to the point where the
Speaker 1: Titans are scoring the way they want to.
Speaker 4: Here's a weird one for you.
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker's block pat was the first non successful kick
Speaker 1: in a Titans game this year for either the Titans
Speaker 1: or the opponents. That was the first time every every
Speaker 1: field goal has been made, every field goal and up
Speaker 1: until then, every extra point has been made by both
Speaker 1: the Titans and their opponents.
Speaker 4: So far this year, so.
Speaker 1: We have we have not called I have not called
Speaker 1: a kick no good on Titans Radio all year.
Speaker 6: I called we Knew that on We Knew That on
Speaker 6: Nick Folk, But I didn't think about the other one.
Speaker 5: That's rights to Mike the begetting to the red zone.
Speaker 1: Well, that and the kicking has been unbelievable in the
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Speaker 1: Ramon Foster and Ret Brian talking about some of the
Speaker 1: some of the interesting numbers, not so interesting numbers. By
Speaker 1: the way, here's another oddity. Oh, the Titans muffed punt
Speaker 1: by Kyle Phillips on Sunday was their first lost fumble
Speaker 1: of the year.
Speaker 4: How they hadn't lost a fumble to that point for
Speaker 4: all that has gone on, and there has been a lot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's just stop that. Let's keep that at one
Speaker 6: and keep moving. Yeah, that's when you think about it
Speaker 6: all e.
Speaker 5: It also shows you to these numbers are very very close,
Speaker 5: and you think to yourself, of all the things you've said,
Speaker 5: you're two and six, but you've had so much goal
Speaker 5: in the wrong direction for you. But it's not all
Speaker 5: best really a game of inches, and it's always a
Speaker 5: small detail that goes into wins and losses in the NFL.
Speaker 4: That's why so hard to win.
Speaker 5: But that's also why you celebrate wins and loss and
Speaker 5: what wins better than losses in this league too, Mike,
Speaker 5: it is wins come at a premium, and it's always
Speaker 5: the smallest detail that gets you to that point of understanding, like, look,
Speaker 5: it's a game of inches, man, And when the guys
Speaker 5: go out there giving their the all to what goes
Speaker 5: into this game and you come up short, it's not
Speaker 5: like they're trying to lose. No, you're not trying to
Speaker 5: lose the ball bounces in there on there. Having one
Speaker 5: second left before the half in London should be a
Speaker 5: telltale sign of what it means to win and lose
Speaker 5: in this league.
Speaker 1: Titans have fifteen quarterback sacks. They have allowed twenty three,
Speaker 1: so the team's sack ratio is minus eight, which is
Speaker 1: not horrendous. It's not great, obviously, but it's not horrendous.
Speaker 1: I mean four of those came in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: with Malik Willis in the game yesterday trying to rally
Speaker 1: the troops, so you could say that's a little misleading.
Speaker 1: The Titans turnover ratio is only minus two, so I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not awful. That's not end of the world bad.
Speaker 1: The Titans are averaging six penalties per game for fifty yards.
Speaker 4: That's that's not bad. And I mean.
Speaker 1: Maybe some of what we're talking about right here is
Speaker 1: where Rabel is saying we're closer than you think, and
Speaker 1: the ret the whole world doesn't want to hear that
Speaker 1: right now, and I get it. But you usually find
Speaker 1: when you start parsing numbers going into the by, you
Speaker 1: usually find all this damning evidence, and the third down
Speaker 1: stuff is damning, the red zone stuff is damning. But
Speaker 1: the stuff that you usually is out there is not.
Speaker 6: Let me give you just as you're speaking about this,
Speaker 6: I'm looking at the game yesterday with the Ravens seventy
Speaker 6: two tackles on the defensive stat sheet, forty one of
Speaker 6: those came from the second and third level defenders.
Speaker 4: Well, that's the game within the game.
Speaker 1: He tenues to be a prob I mean right now,
Speaker 1: Kevin Byron ten tackles, that's too many for a safety.
Speaker 6: And Amani Hooker had seven, seventeen from your safety.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you had Gibbons and al Shier combined
Speaker 1: for twenty four. And the guys up front for the
Speaker 1: second game in a row, did not make a lot
Speaker 1: of plays. Harold Landry did have five. He had two
Speaker 1: tackles for loss in a sack. I think we've talked
Speaker 1: about Harold already, best game he's played all year as
Speaker 1: he comes back from the ACL and if he's rounding
Speaker 1: into shape, that's a big deal.
Speaker 6: The numbers in the front better than it was last week,
Speaker 6: because I'm seeing Jalil Johnson with four, Autrey with four,
Speaker 6: Jeff with two, Kyle Pecko with two. I think it
Speaker 6: was only six tackles up front last week, so doubled
Speaker 6: that output the better.
Speaker 5: And when you look at the scores of these games also,
Speaker 5: and I don't think that's been anything to say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: well they were behind and just let them score. The
Speaker 5: one off, you know, set game in this game in
Speaker 5: this season is the Cleveland Cleveland twenty seven through twenty
Speaker 5: four points spread. Right. Everything else has been within a
Speaker 5: score as far as being able to win a state
Speaker 5: in the games in London, I mean, you get that touchdown.
Speaker 1: There were leading scores on the interception return, or Derek
Speaker 1: finishes the runs or Taje finishes the run.
Speaker 6: I mean, let's go to those two special teams plays
Speaker 6: that allowed that allowed for six points there. Let's say
Speaker 6: they don't happen there, and then the Titans come out
Speaker 6: and score, and it's not.
Speaker 1: Well, what you're saying, Ramoni is you're saying, I think,
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. In five of the
Speaker 1: six games, the Titans have not been.
Speaker 4: Outclassed, not blown out.
Speaker 5: This isn't like the old teams I used to play
Speaker 5: with the Cleveland Browns, where you just knew he was
Speaker 5: gonna blow them out and everybody just be ready to
Speaker 5: go home immediately after game. It's not that type of down. Okay,
Speaker 5: it's not that type of game. You're fighting in these games,
Speaker 5: and that's why the frustration sets on variable, That's why
Speaker 5: the frustration sets with your team players. You just hear
Speaker 5: if you listen to us postgame, Kevin Byers, speed, you
Speaker 5: hear Big Jeff Speed. You hear these guys try to
Speaker 5: find answers for you, and the answers are You're that
Speaker 5: close but figuring out how to either get a stop,
Speaker 5: score in the red zone, convert on third down. And
Speaker 5: I've been a part of teams where that's been a
Speaker 5: big emphasis. We gotta convert on third down, we gotta
Speaker 5: score in the red zone. And all it boils down to,
Speaker 5: y'all is this reps, training of it, detail of it.
Speaker 5: And that's something that in the course of a game,
Speaker 5: a defender throw you off your route. I mean, it
Speaker 5: could be as simple as that. It could be you know,
Speaker 5: the offensive line picking up a and they were just
Speaker 5: better on you, better than you on those plays. It's
Speaker 5: the flow of the game, but it's also the detail
Speaker 5: of understanding that, Okay, we just got to strip it
Speaker 5: down a little bit and get to get back to zero.
Speaker 5: I'm figuring out how we get past these points. And
Speaker 5: of course you talk about the indie game, not giving
Speaker 5: up the big runs, right in the Saints game, three turnovers,
Speaker 5: playing to play in it, you know, having a play
Speaker 5: and a part in it. We can pinpoint certain things
Speaker 5: and every game except for the Cleveland game that you
Speaker 5: say to yourself, take this away, we win well.
Speaker 1: Of course, now Cleveland has put up numbers defensively through
Speaker 1: five games that have not been seen since nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: one in terms of yards allowed. They're giving up two
Speaker 1: hundred point four yards per game through five games. Only
Speaker 1: two teams in modern NFL history in nineteen seventy and
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one two teams have done better. So if
Speaker 1: you're having a bad day against Cleveland, they're gonna make
Speaker 1: you pay for it. You know, they did it to
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Rock Purty is no longer the new Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: at least this week, based on a performance against Cleveland,
Speaker 1: So you take that into account. I think another thing
Speaker 1: about third down and red zone that I've noticed over
Speaker 1: the years, and Ramon, you played in the league and
Speaker 1: you've covered the league for a long time, been around teams,
Speaker 1: so you take it first. To me, those are the
Speaker 1: moments like you're taking the final exams. It's the tests.
Speaker 1: It's first down's one thing, second down something else. But
Speaker 1: third down everybody starts to feel it, particularly on the
Speaker 1: road because the crowd's loud. Oh, I've got to make
Speaker 1: sure I stay in my stance properly. The guy on
Speaker 1: the outside. I've got to make sure I run the
Speaker 1: route to the perfect depth. I've got to make sure
Speaker 1: I'm thinking exactly what the quarterback's thinking. Quarterback knows I
Speaker 1: need to throw a good ball. People on blitz pickup
Speaker 1: have to be perfect. Red zone's exactly the same way.
Speaker 1: There is pressure, so when you don't do it well,
Speaker 1: all of the sudden, your confidence is weakened. When you
Speaker 1: do it well, as the Titans have done the last
Speaker 1: four years, even in practice, whatever, there is belief. So
Speaker 1: when people ask Vrabel to me, why are you not
Speaker 1: doing the red zone as well as you did the
Speaker 1: last four years, and he says, well, it's a different year,
Speaker 1: a different team. That's true, but this team hasn't built
Speaker 1: the confidence that they built, and I think it at
Speaker 1: times shows unfortunately.
Speaker 6: And let's take it a step further, because we have
Speaker 6: seen this in every one of the six games that
Speaker 6: they have played so far. Let's say they've done it
Speaker 6: right on first and second down, and so they have
Speaker 6: a third and very manageable third and two let's say,
Speaker 6: and we've had the self inflicted wounds with a penalty
Speaker 6: of off sides or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 6: that ends up dipping you down low again, going, oh, no,
Speaker 6: we've made a mistake again. You know, another example of
Speaker 6: you can get to a low sure. That's happened so
Speaker 6: many times in this season so far.
Speaker 1: Well, and they had the penalty on the one play
Speaker 1: where Derek had picked up the first down, and then
Speaker 1: they come back and they don't make it, and then
Speaker 1: they punt and Duverne returns the punt seventy yards. And
Speaker 1: so those are the things that show up so big
Speaker 1: when you are continually not executing.
Speaker 4: Talk about the pressure. Part of the pressure.
Speaker 5: Part of it is is that the defense knows what
Speaker 5: you're doing at that point, usually the third down and
Speaker 5: in a rezon here's what a lot of people don't
Speaker 5: speak about to and I know we've heard coach Mack
Speaker 5: bring this up. Also, you get to the red zone,
Speaker 5: the defense gets a twelfth man because you get the
Speaker 5: do you get the end zone, you get the sideline,
Speaker 5: you get all those things. The playbook shrinks because look,
Speaker 5: when it's tight red we can't go yard anymore. We
Speaker 5: got to make sure it's ten to thirteen yards or
Speaker 5: it's five to seven yards on the players we're trying
Speaker 5: to make to get to the red zone. You have
Speaker 5: the systems, like I said, of the back end out
Speaker 5: the end zone.
Speaker 4: You have that.
Speaker 5: You also have the idea that more times than not
Speaker 5: in the red zone you are going to pass it,
Speaker 5: especially in third down, because in the red zone you're
Speaker 5: trying to get as many athletes as you can out there,
Speaker 5: and more times than not that's usually four or five
Speaker 5: pass catchers, so the ability to run the ball is
Speaker 5: usually out, especially if it's third and six. You got
Speaker 5: to talk about the management of it too. And let's
Speaker 5: go specifically here because I felt like we were going
Speaker 5: to see something in London that never actually got there
Speaker 5: one just watching Josh Waally Chris Moore both out. No
Speaker 5: trailing weapons matter if we're trying to convert on third down,
Speaker 5: and it seems like every game there's been somebody out,
Speaker 5: somebody you know can cuss, somebody have an ankle, somebody.
Speaker 4: You lose and you lose the ability to make place.
Speaker 5: So if we get to the shorter part of the
Speaker 5: field and I play book shrinks, but then our personnel shrink.
Speaker 5: That's a hard day at the office. Good point, it
Speaker 5: really is. And when you look at okay, all right,
Speaker 5: we on our morning showy Heyler, will a.
Speaker 4: Lot of people just saying will check us out.
Speaker 5: You have a lot of people that say, use Derek
Speaker 5: in this situation. But here's the thing. You line Derek
Speaker 5: in and backfield and you decide to run the ball,
Speaker 5: and teams know you're going to run the ball with
Speaker 5: Derek or they're ready for the screen. It's not a
Speaker 5: player you rule in the run right there, because it's
Speaker 5: not open.
Speaker 4: Field like what happened to Indianapolis.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I mean, let's speak about the reality of
Speaker 5: what you're asking to be. Why why you're not successful
Speaker 5: or need to be successful in the red zone. It's
Speaker 5: because of those things. You either lost players, got penalties,
Speaker 5: or you find yourself third and loan.
Speaker 4: And that's a hard sledding, especially.
Speaker 5: When you're down trailing. You're down Chris More, you're down
Speaker 5: n w I Wiley, Wiley, Josh Whally. When I saw
Speaker 5: Josh Wiley catched that ball down the scene, I was
Speaker 5: thinking to myself, all, here we go, here's the here's
Speaker 5: the weapon we've been looking for, because you got a
Speaker 5: big target that's not afraid to go down the field.
Speaker 5: And it's unfortunate that he was knocked out of that game.
Speaker 5: And it's unfortunate that Chris Moore was both in the
Speaker 5: red zone both red zone moments well.
Speaker 1: And the bottom line two with Josh Josh Wiley is growing.
Speaker 1: When you see Mark Andrews yesterday. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: Josh Wiley is going to be Mark Andrews, but your
Speaker 1: dream would be that he could grow into something like that.
Speaker 1: When you see his catch radius, when you I mean
Speaker 1: he's he's shown up. I mean he made a great
Speaker 1: catch even at the end of the Indianapolis game to
Speaker 1: keep a drive alive. Quarterbacks like to throw to him
Speaker 1: because he's six seven and he's long, and he's Wiley
Speaker 1: pardon the punt in terms of what he can do,
Speaker 1: and he's figured it out. You know, two months ago
Speaker 1: he was the guy going, now, what is it, dude
Speaker 1: that I do? And even a month ago he was.
Speaker 1: But you see the lights start to come on with guys.
Speaker 1: This is what happens, and people are like, well, why
Speaker 1: were we not playing him early? Well, he probably didn't
Speaker 1: know the plays, or he was having to think about
Speaker 1: it so much. He was either making mistakes or he
Speaker 1: wasn't playing quickly enough. Suddenly a guy like Josh Wily,
Speaker 1: the light comes on and you go, yes, he's going
Speaker 1: to help our football team, and I think he is.
Speaker 1: I like this player. I like to pick ret No's.
Speaker 1: It was a great year for tight ends. He was
Speaker 1: a unbelievable value in round five. And I hope he's
Speaker 1: not out long because I think he's going to.
Speaker 4: Help this team.
Speaker 6: Here's the other thing about Josh Whillly we haven't discovered
Speaker 6: as we're talking about him growing literally physically growing. Here's
Speaker 6: a guy that is getting with Frank Rhino in this
Speaker 6: strength and conditioning staff. He has a chance to grow
Speaker 6: into his body with a little more bulk too, and
Speaker 6: that's gonna right. So, I mean, we haven't even talked
Speaker 6: about that part when he gets an NFL body on him,
Speaker 6: and then the brain part continues to grow as he
Speaker 6: is learning the playbook and knows what to do.
Speaker 4: That's where it really becomes dangerous.
Speaker 1: Well, and where they had faith in him Ramon is
Speaker 1: he would stick his nose in even when he didn't
Speaker 1: know what he was doing. He was not afraid to
Speaker 1: stick his nose in there. And what a player at
Speaker 1: any level. Yeah, if you've played football at any level,
Speaker 1: you've heard this. If a guy's willing to stick his
Speaker 1: nose in there, it will happen for him at some point.
Speaker 1: And Josh was not afraid. Maybe confused, maybe didn't know everything,
Speaker 1: maybe because he was a rookie. This is the ninety
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time rookie thing that happens. But
Speaker 1: if that guy's willing to stick his nose in there,
Speaker 1: he'll grow into something.
Speaker 5: What you're saying is effort is a talent thing, that's
Speaker 5: something that's.
Speaker 4: In you, and physicality and he has both of those things.
Speaker 4: Yes he does.
Speaker 5: Man And again the charges game, I think he went
Speaker 5: out with an ankle. Okay, and then this game, I
Speaker 5: don't think. I don't want people to ever think like, Okay,
Speaker 5: well you know he's injury prone type of thing. No,
Speaker 5: that was a hit that he took, he got sandwiched,
Speaker 5: and then Pole drive by Kyle Hamilton in London. Okay,
Speaker 5: not many him come back from that, and he tried
Speaker 5: to get up all those things. You saw the TV
Speaker 5: graphics of everything that was available to him. But again,
Speaker 5: when we speak about how this team has lost in
Speaker 5: you know, the woes of third down, the woes of
Speaker 5: the red zone, the woes of trying to get this
Speaker 5: run game established, and the course, there was a change
Speaker 5: at left tackle yesday that happened to and I think
Speaker 5: we all saw immediate responses out of that. Also, the
Speaker 5: season is always a puzzle. Certain pieces gotta fit and
Speaker 5: you try to figure certain things out. It's not like
Speaker 5: this team is just bad or been bad losses. But
Speaker 5: it's not a bad team. There's answers to the questions
Speaker 5: that you have. It's a matter of of course, detail
Speaker 5: always the ball bouncing your way sometimes. I know Kyle
Speaker 5: Fellers would love to have that back. One second, y'all,
Speaker 5: we're talking about one second, and I think they had
Speaker 5: to look at the clock to make sure that the
Speaker 5: ball was down.
Speaker 4: Those types of things come again.
Speaker 5: I've always had the model you want to be on
Speaker 5: an airplane ride up, not a roller coaster. If you're
Speaker 5: sending at all times, even with a couple dips because
Speaker 5: there's turbulence on the airplanes. Right, there's a little bit
Speaker 5: of a dip there. But as long as you're ascending,
Speaker 5: you got something. This team can fight out of this. Again,
Speaker 5: only one divisional game so far, and that team's gonna
Speaker 5: have to fight out of a hole itself with the
Speaker 5: coach that is, you got an opportunity to go to
Speaker 5: a quarterback, play a quarterback soon enough. And Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 5: has had his ups and downs also, and a rookie
Speaker 5: in Houston.
Speaker 4: All you need is to win your division. That's the goal.
Speaker 5: Win your division, get the shirts, get the hat, and
Speaker 5: punch your ticket to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Here's another one, so I'll end it with this. The
Speaker 1: only Titans this season to catch touchdown passes are can
Speaker 1: you name them?
Speaker 4: Josh Wiler. Josh Wiley is one trailer gets to the
Speaker 4: end zone. Sure, no hop.
Speaker 1: Haden got hop hadn't gotten it either, Nick Westbrook Akine
Speaker 1: has two. That's got to change, right. You gotta get
Speaker 1: Hopkins in the you gotta and you're gonna get Burke's back,
Speaker 1: which is exciting, and I mean, who knows and a
Speaker 1: cockwo you know Chick has has factored in the offense,
Speaker 1: but has they tried to hit him on a couple
Speaker 1: of big plays in the game in London Almost there,
Speaker 1: almost there twice, you know, I don't know. Here's another one.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: So the Titans have five takeaways this season. Travis Gibson
Speaker 1: had a strip sack against Cincinnati. Two players have the
Speaker 1: other two. They have two we or have the other four.
Speaker 1: I should say so. Sean Murphy Bunting has a stripsack
Speaker 1: at Cleveland and an interception against the Ravens, had a
Speaker 1: Mani Hooker had an interception and a forced fumble and
Speaker 1: a recovered fumble in the season opener. So only three Titans.
Speaker 1: Only two Titans have cut touchdown passes. Only three Titans
Speaker 1: have forced turnovers so.
Speaker 4: Far this year. And those I mean that has to change,
Speaker 4: right it does.
Speaker 1: I mean just the law of averages you're saying, my goodness,
Speaker 1: it speaks to level of big playability and guys making
Speaker 1: things happen. Yes, got to step that up, especially the
Speaker 1: guys who are getting paid. And then the other part
Speaker 1: of it, too is just it happens.
Speaker 5: It happens, it does, and nobody wants to hit add
Speaker 5: E skins, So absolutely.
Speaker 4: Not get it.
Speaker 1: If I'm listening to the OTP right now, I know
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. But if you've done
Speaker 1: it long enough and been around it long enough, you
Speaker 1: understand it will happen.
Speaker 5: It does eventually, the nutcrack as far as what you
Speaker 5: and starts off if everybody's right minded.
Speaker 4: So here's the thing.
Speaker 5: So we're going onto this bye week, right, guys, and
Speaker 5: everything has the opportunity to fester a little bit mm hmm, right.
Speaker 4: And that's what you have to fight off.
Speaker 5: You have to have the understanding that, look, hopefully Tannehill
Speaker 5: can get back health and if not, the young guys
Speaker 5: need to be ready if there is a change at
Speaker 5: on the offensive line, figure out how you guys gonna
Speaker 5: work and messing jail together. And here's the other thing too,
Speaker 5: because we all heard the audio of Big Jeff Jeffrey
Speaker 5: Simmons kind of challenging this teammates, whether that was the
Speaker 5: offensive side of the.
Speaker 4: Ball also included in that.
Speaker 5: I think that has to be the case too, because
Speaker 5: if you're only you know, having forty plus plays in
Speaker 5: a game, forty is play less than fifty plays in
Speaker 5: a game. A portion of you feel that the other
Speaker 5: side of the ball feels that the offense needs to
Speaker 5: feel that pressure a little bit. Also, everybody has to
Speaker 5: put their hand in a pile. In weeks like this,
Speaker 5: there can't be any separation, there can be any fragments.
Speaker 5: When it comes down to this team, you're in a hole,
Speaker 5: the fox hole with each other. Either you gonna come together.
Speaker 5: Keep the outside chatter at a minimum. Understand that. And
Speaker 5: I hate to even use this because you know how
Speaker 5: I feel about the same. But the Patriots just do
Speaker 5: your job. Verbel said those types of things. Everybody has
Speaker 5: to do their job. Don't try to don't screw me
Speaker 5: over trying to go. Make a play for yourself.
Speaker 4: Make your play.
Speaker 5: If it accounts with just five yards on the catch,
Speaker 5: take your five and get down. If it's you holding
Speaker 5: the offensive lineman so that the defensive linebacker can make
Speaker 5: a play, do that. I don't care about your stat line.
Speaker 5: We need to win as a team and that's what
Speaker 5: I feel like. Big Jeff's sentiment was after the game
Speaker 5: in London, I need people to do their jobs so
Speaker 5: we can all eat.
Speaker 4: That's always the Lion pack eats together.
Speaker 6: And the only thing I'll follow that up with is
Speaker 6: like Rabel, teams are usually pretty good after the bye week.
Speaker 1: They are so to that. But I can't follow it
Speaker 1: up with much else. I thought you were just gonna
Speaker 1: go amen. I mean, yeah, let's pass the offering, play right,
Speaker 1: first three stanzards of justice.
Speaker 5: I am yes, I wouldn't try to golf there, but
Speaker 5: I promise you the passion of this game because we're
Speaker 5: close to these guys. Sure, we see their faces, we
Speaker 5: see their reactions, we hear them being in a locker room.
Speaker 4: This is not a bad football team. It ain't.
Speaker 1: It's not a it's a team that's not playing well
Speaker 1: right now, but it's not a bad football team. And
Speaker 1: they're two different things.
Speaker 4: They are very much so.
Speaker 1: And you know, you see teams stink it up, and
Speaker 1: we saw a few over a period of time, and
Speaker 1: we didn't go to the playoffs two win team and
Speaker 1: a three win team and a six win team in
Speaker 1: twenty twelve that might have been worse than the two
Speaker 1: other teams.
Speaker 6: And there was a laundry list of things that needed
Speaker 6: to be it's a much shorter list what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this can be fixed. And the schedule puts you
Speaker 1: in a position if you take care of your business,
Speaker 1: you can get back in it. But it's aiming towards Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got you've got to go get that game,
Speaker 1: certainly to have that momentum going into Pittsburgh on Thursday night.
Speaker 5: And here's the thing too, there's a lot of opportunity
Speaker 5: in this if you were looking for, if Malik was
Speaker 5: looking for it, Will Levice y'all was looking for for,
Speaker 5: if Taj was in search for NPF being back into
Speaker 5: the conversation trailing, I mean, honestly, I know injuries are
Speaker 5: a big part of it, but let's figure out a
Speaker 5: way to stick with it. That group of five or
Speaker 5: six dues of youth that I've mentioned right there, we've
Speaker 5: all talked about separately too.
Speaker 4: Now is your opportunity, Sure, run with it. You got
Speaker 4: a game.
Speaker 5: Against a former offensive coordinator here and author Smith coming
Speaker 5: into town, a home.
Speaker 4: Game where you're wearing the Oilers uniform.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, and then you got to go on
Speaker 5: the road to Thursday night football. You can bang bang
Speaker 5: this thing and get right and honestly put a put
Speaker 5: a stake in a roll, you know, on what you're
Speaker 5: trying to be as a group.
Speaker 4: And I say that younger group because they have a lot.
Speaker 5: Of optimism and there's opportunity there for those dudes that
Speaker 5: I mentioned run with it this week, especially coming out
Speaker 5: of a buy carpe DM.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the question I will ask you about the
Speaker 1: Oilers uniforms. If Ramone Fosters playing for the Titans and
Speaker 1: he's getting to wear the Oiler uniforms and he's wearing
Speaker 1: big seventy eight and he's looking all clean, what color
Speaker 1: shoes do you wear?
Speaker 5: I'm wearing white white. I'm doing white white. Yes, I
Speaker 5: gotta go white with the white socks. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: seriously give me white socks, white white, white, white shoes.
Speaker 1: They white shoes, Yeah, yeah, but I think I would
Speaker 1: have to wear red shoes.
Speaker 4: With the red face mask and red gloves. Details details.
Speaker 1: It makes a puff, I know. I tell you what
Speaker 1: else some guys have got. They have powder blue shoes,
Speaker 1: powder blue cleats.
Speaker 5: You know the reason I said white, Mike, It's because
Speaker 5: as an offensive line, we don't get much anyway to
Speaker 5: wear black shoes. White shoes, man, that's all they give us.
Speaker 4: Black shoes are pretty sweet, though they are, But when
Speaker 4: you got a light colored jersey, but with that face
Speaker 4: with the red faces. That's the biggest thing. It's what
Speaker 4: I want.
Speaker 1: It's it's why I said on the OTP when she
Speaker 1: started talking about this, I said, please please wear the
Speaker 1: version of the oilers uniforms that we wore as the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Oilers, and it was the eighty one through ninety
Speaker 1: eight version. It was the last sixteen years of the
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers and the first two years the team was
Speaker 1: in Tennessee where they were the Tennessee Oilers. Because I
Speaker 1: think the helmet's the sharpest. I think the outline is
Speaker 1: the sharpest. I understand that the nineteen sixty look as
Speaker 1: the original, you know, didn't. It wasn't my favorite. No,
Speaker 1: this is run and shoot, this is run and shoe,
Speaker 1: this is this is Warren Moon and.
Speaker 4: This is given Ernest Gibbons. This is the dudes, you.
Speaker 6: Know, and young Steve McNair and young Eddie George and
Speaker 6: young I mean.
Speaker 4: It pops, it pops, it pops.
Speaker 1: And when you see the helmet, like when we saw
Speaker 1: the helmets at practice, when when I've seen the helmet
Speaker 1: in the building, you're like, oh my goodness, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you you can't believe how good
Speaker 1: it looks.
Speaker 6: And you're saying to yourself, this is going to happen.
Speaker 6: This is going to happen. See them go out there
Speaker 6: last week in the in their helmets to practice and
Speaker 6: kind of get those the fittings.
Speaker 4: Right before they do this game. I got excited.
Speaker 1: I got in the jerseys and they are just clean, amazing, clean, amazing.
Speaker 4: I mean, the replica jerseys are great.
Speaker 1: But we did the private event and Big Jeff was
Speaker 1: there and oh my gosh, so my.
Speaker 4: Ask, I said red shoes because I'm wearing red shoes.
Speaker 4: My history is this is here. And coach Montsak talk
Speaker 4: about him too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he called them the silks. They don't call
Speaker 5: them jersey nice because they look so smooth.
Speaker 4: It like in hockey they call them sweaters. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: call them the silks. Man. I was just like, oh my,
Speaker 4: they are they are very pretty.
Speaker 1: And of course the other thing too is when the
Speaker 1: team played in Tennessee for the two years, they wore white,
Speaker 1: and the idea was we're always going to be on
Speaker 1: the road and so we're gonna wear white and just
Speaker 1: embrace no excuses all of this.
Speaker 4: But people didn't get to see the love you blue blue,
Speaker 4: except like in the ninety seven Dallas game on Thursday
Speaker 4: when they had the drive that took the whole third
Speaker 4: quarter and they beat Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith and the
Speaker 4: cowboy Marcus Robertson had a big game. We could go
Speaker 4: on and on. We could go on and on. We
Speaker 4: we've got to stop. We have to stop. But see,
Speaker 4: there's a lot to be excited about. OT people.
Speaker 3: Hang in there.
Speaker 4: Seriously. Ramon Foster, thank you all, Ret Brian, thank you
Speaker 4: glad to do it.
Speaker 1: And to the OT people, we say thank you for
Speaker 1: listening to the otpeople.