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Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Mike Keith. The Titans are back from

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Speaker 1: London after losing to Baltimore twenty four to sixteen. I

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Speaker 1: visited with Mike Rabel on Monday to discuss the loss

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Speaker 1: to the Ravens and what to expect from bye week.

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Speaker 1: Here's my conversation with Mike Rabel on the OTP. Mike,

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Speaker 1: you met with the media this afternoon, and you're obviously

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Speaker 1: asked about Ryan tannehill status. If you don't mind for

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Speaker 1: those who didn't have a chance to hear kind of

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Speaker 1: update people on what you said about your quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, he's got a high ankle sprain and

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Speaker 2: we'll see you know, he's been through this before. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I just got caught in the pocket there

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Speaker 2: and a guy came down on it, and I know

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Speaker 2: how tough Ryan is.

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Speaker 3: And we've got a little bit of time, so uh to.

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Speaker 2: Have to give you any more information that I don't

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Speaker 2: have any more than that.

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Speaker 3: So we'll have to make sure.

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Speaker 2: That you know that we get everybody ready, you know,

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Speaker 2: whether that's Ryan or whether that's Malik or will we'll

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Speaker 2: we'll have to have a plan based on on his

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Speaker 2: health and everybody else's health.

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Speaker 1: Get back from London. Obviously, the two guys with the

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Speaker 1: concussions are of concern to Titans fans, Chris Moore and

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Speaker 4: How are those guys doing right now? Great?

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Speaker 2: From what I've seen, both doing well. And they'll they'll

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Speaker 2: work their way uh through through the protocol and and

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Speaker 2: we'll see how how they progress and what they're going

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Speaker 2: to be able to do this week or heading into

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 4: How much will you do this week as far as practice,

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Speaker 4: would like.

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Speaker 3: To do some you know, I think everybody's got a

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Speaker 3: different plan.

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Speaker 2: But we have to you know, we have to think

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Speaker 2: about winning this week, you know, finding a way to

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Speaker 2: win this week and get stuff accomplished for each player,

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Speaker 2: for each position group, for each unit, and for this team.

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Speaker 2: So that's my goal, that's my thoughts, is trying to

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Speaker 2: do the things that we feel like are going to

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Speaker 1: Talked about some of the good things that you saw

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Speaker 1: the things to us would have been Harold Landry. We

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Speaker 1: tape on the way back. Did he play as well

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Speaker 2: He ran around and chased and you know, we have

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Speaker 2: to win one on ones, you know, whether that's Harold, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: Denico Arden, guys that we think that that can affect

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Speaker 2: the quarterback when they get one on ones, that that's

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Speaker 2: the expectation. So they all have to we all have

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Speaker 2: to win more one on ones. It's what this game

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Speaker 2: comes down to, whether it's coverage, whether you're trying to

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Speaker 2: get open or you're trying to block somebody, you're trying

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Speaker 1: Sean Murphy Budding is another guy who continues to show

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Speaker 2: I think he's smart. I think he knows kind of

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Speaker 2: I think he sees the picture and kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: again those are the things that we're talking about. The

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Speaker 2: you're supposed to make and you know, took advantage of

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Speaker 3: And that's that's what we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: It is not doing anything above and beyond just making

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Speaker 1: Have you made a decision what you're going to do

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Speaker 2: I know I'm not going to make those decisions less

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Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's talk a little bit about some

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Speaker 1: of the other guys who've jumped out in the first

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Speaker 2: We have to manufacture more touches, but he didn't do

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Speaker 1: We said that a lot out of Aaron Brewer, and

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Speaker 1: it feels like he's taking more and more of a

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Speaker 1: who really sort of symbolizes what you want the Titans

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope that would symbolize anything that we would

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Speaker 2: the field. It certainly plays with a with a level

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Speaker 2: I think he's kind of doing the things the way

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Speaker 2: just need to kind of get that consistency throughout the

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Speaker 2: close at times. There's a lot of cool runs in there,

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately on third down.

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Speaker 1: The difficulty for the Titans in the ball game against

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Speaker 1: the Ravens just forty six offensive plays.

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Speaker 2: It's not enough to create enough place. It's not enough

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Speaker 2: to get the ball to Derek enough. It's not enough

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Speaker 2: You have to be so good with the forty six

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Speaker 2: the forty six plays and how many of them were

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Speaker 2: just just not enough plays that to complement each other.

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Speaker 1: As a coaching staff, what are the things that you'll

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Speaker 1: focus on during the course of this off week, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's about self improvement.

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Speaker 2: It's about trying to figure out what our players can

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Speaker 2: to our position group, that we're focused on unit execution

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Speaker 2: in all three phases, and then also building the team

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Speaker 2: pride and team success is critical, and those are the

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Speaker 2: things that we're going to focus on that I'm going

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Speaker 2: to explain to the players.

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons gave an interview in the locker room after

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Speaker 1: the game, and one of the things he said is

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Speaker 1: we need to focus on the guys who are ready

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Speaker 1: to play, and the guys who are not ready to play,

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Speaker 1: they need to move along. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: heard Jeff's comments that we played earlier, but strong statement

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Speaker 1: from number ninety eight as a former player and now

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Speaker 1: as a head coach, is that the kind of thing

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Speaker 2: And Jeff's earning the right to say what he wants

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Speaker 2: and what's on his mind. And again, when you lose,

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Speaker 2: you're frustrated. You know, We've we want to win. That's

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Speaker 2: why we come to work, That's why we do what

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Speaker 2: we do. And yeah, we need everybody. We need the

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Speaker 2: help us so that we, uh, you know, we could

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Speaker 2: start putting something together. And uh, you know, but I'll

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Speaker 2: say the guys that you know to stepped in, whether

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Speaker 2: played more snaps and than maybe what they normally would.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got we got some pretty good efforts from.

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Speaker 1: Them, like Jaliel Johnson or Kyle Peco in the defensive line.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think Jalil played uh much improved from

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Speaker 3: You know. Peco is as good as he's been for

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Speaker 2: It just did not only his ability to to knock

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Speaker 2: couple of cool effort plays. And those are the things

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Speaker 2: that we're going to continue to do that are going

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Speaker 2: to help us win. There's some things that we're going

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Speaker 2: to have to eliminate, but we're going to start there

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Speaker 2: with the things that help us win.

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Speaker 1: You felt like you got your run defense back under

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Speaker 2: And a quarterback, however many he had when he dropped

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Speaker 4: Schedule on a run.

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Speaker 3: Whatever those were, Take those out.

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Speaker 2: And then they're not going to take out the ones

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Speaker 2: that he kept in his own read. That's the responsibility

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Speaker 2: we have to make sure that we're good there, But

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Speaker 2: there were some pretty good, pretty good walls, pretty good edges,

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Speaker 2: some pretty good tackles, toss crack they tried us on

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Speaker 2: and you know we had guys running to the football

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Speaker 1: That's my Monday talk with Mike Rabel. It's always game

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Speaker 1: on with Duncan. So grab a coffee and kick off

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Speaker 1: the action. Whether that's drinking a cup of coffee on

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Speaker 1: your way to the game or grabbing one to go

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Speaker 1: before watching the game at home, Duncan is always there

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Speaker 1: to help you get your game on. Just like the pros,

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Speaker 1: we need to be at our best come game time,

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Speaker 1: which is why Duncan is the most important part of

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Speaker 1: your game day ritual because it's always the best call

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Speaker 1: for Football America runs on Duncan. And now welcome my

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Speaker 1: fully caffeinated Titans radio broadcast partners Ret Brian and Ramone Foster.

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Speaker 1: Retbrian is actually having a Duncan.

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Speaker 4: What are you having? Cole Brew?

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Speaker 1: Cole Brew with a little almond milk in there? Nicely done? Ramone?

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Speaker 1: How are you hanging in there? Are you jet lagged

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Speaker 1: at all?

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Speaker 5: It won't hit me until you know later in the

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Speaker 5: later in the week. How it always comes and bites

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Speaker 5: you back. But you know what, the flight wasn't back

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Speaker 5: coming back, and we all made it back safely. And

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Speaker 5: I think that was a little bit of a turbo

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Speaker 5: in that playing coming back. I think we'd bet timming, y'all.

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Speaker 1: It was nicely done, well done by the piloty congratulations

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Speaker 1: all right. So I have gathered some things to discuss

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because he's been proven the more reps that get,

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Speaker 5: His ability to be a splash player is what you saw.

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Speaker 5: I think the tailtale sign of it was in the

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Speaker 5: comes down to his play making ability. That's what's most

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Speaker 5: Even more moving forward? And of course that means you

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Speaker 5: is something that can be very advantageous to this offense,

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Speaker 5: the ability to include more explosion plays, the ability to

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Speaker 5: I'd love to see a little bit more of it,

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Speaker 4: You gotta make those decisions.

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Speaker 5: But when you look at the results of what he's

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Speaker 6: I think it's what they liked about him and hoped

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Speaker 6: as long as those plays start becoming explosive, I think

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Speaker 6: We'll see after the bye week, they got thirteen days

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Speaker 4: Next one.

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Speaker 1: Titans are averaging twenty four rushing attempts per game. The

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry averaging sixteen carries per game, which is down

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Speaker 5: A little bit of both of them behind makes you

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Speaker 4: That always plays a part in it.

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Speaker 5: But the time of possession by the opposing teams have

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Speaker 4: The other guys in the game.

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Speaker 5: There are weapons on this team that's just capable of

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Speaker 5: there it gets better over time. But when you're pressed

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Speaker 6: Ramon, You're right, because you score gets separated in this

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Speaker 6: different option. Well, it comes down to third down conversions.

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Speaker 6: The Titans' only third down conversion came fifty eight minutes

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Speaker 6: third and seven play. Up until then, they were zero

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Speaker 6: of eight on third downs. The Ravens finish eight of sixteen,

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Speaker 1: You got it right, Rhett. The difference in time of

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Speaker 5: Third down mattters a lot. It's the continuation of plays,

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Speaker 4: Of the game.

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Speaker 5: If you have no rhyme or reason to what works

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Speaker 5: could see that in this team on game day a

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Speaker 5: little bit too. The ability to work a team down. Honestly,

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Speaker 5: only have forty six plays offensively, that means no rhyme

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Speaker 5: nothing goods coming out of that. Because again, if you're

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Speaker 1: There's no way to run Dereck Henry twenty five times

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Speaker 4: Think about what we're saying right here.

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Speaker 5: And yes, Derek did have the big explosion play, right,

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Speaker 5: was just saying, just do that. You can't play offense

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Speaker 4: You have to get to where your.

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Speaker 4: You leave out of the game.

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Speaker 5: You kind of say yourself, what more can we have done?

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Speaker 5: And the simpol as of Mike is what you just said.

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Speaker 5: Convert on third downs?

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Speaker 1: Right, you want to hear a strange stat. Here's a

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Speaker 1: strange stat. Opponents are converting forty one percent of their

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Speaker 1: but they're largely doing it because they are completing nearly

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Speaker 1: It's a little fact that you don't look at, but

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Speaker 6: Ratt and it makes sense as to why just in

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Speaker 5: It was and Mike, that's so fascinating hearing that so too.

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing about it. You're dealing with.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes Jimmy's and Joel's, mattter a little bit more too.

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Speaker 5: You've been without Tier Tar, you got some young guys

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Speaker 5: We're looking at all these things that are going into

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Speaker 5: If you got one guy that's getting double team and

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Speaker 4: To get home.

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Speaker 5: The linebackers have to make their plays in open space too,

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Speaker 5: And it's one way to get to the quarterback. I

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Speaker 5: that's not happening at the rate that you love to

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Speaker 6: It's not happening, And it goes a layer deeper in

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Speaker 1: You've hit it perfectly. Special teams produced a literal six

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Speaker 5: You know what's fascinating about that, Michael is Well, we

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Speaker 4: The defense is still playing well enough.

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Speaker 5: Just you gotta get assistance from those either special teams

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Speaker 5: It's unfortunate that it happened three points out of that. Okay,

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Speaker 5: But when you put yourself in bad situations like that,

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Speaker 5: And it just, honestly, Mike, seventy plays grinds you down

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Speaker 1: And then you have the physical fatigue of Baltimore, which

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Speaker 1: is on both sides of the ball, and then the

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Speaker 1: mental fatigue of having to play Lamar Jackson, which means

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Speaker 1: you have to be on your toes every second of

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Speaker 1: the day. You know you're gonna give up some yards

447
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Speaker 1: against him. You know you're gonna give up some plays,

448
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Speaker 1: and I mean, you're not holding them to one hundred yards.

449
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Speaker 1: And that's the way it is. You're you're having to

450
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Speaker 1: manage this guy and not let him make the big play.

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Speaker 5: And what was good I thought was in that tight

452
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Speaker 5: red zone area except for the scrambled play. Does you

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Speaker 5: speak of the anxiety of going against Lamar Jackson that

454
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Speaker 5: scramble plates is they Flowers, Well, stop dead in this

455
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Speaker 5: track until you keep I mean, Zay Flowers, a four

456
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Speaker 5: to three guy. You know you're gonna lose them if

457
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Speaker 5: you're trying to watch Lamar be dynamic. Also, but if

458
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Speaker 5: that was your only touchdown giving up again, there's something

459
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Speaker 5: to build on. But it's a matter of having everybody

460
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Speaker 5: on the same page. And I think that's why you

461
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Speaker 5: hear some frustration from the fan base, coaches, and even players.

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Speaker 4: Now, Mike Well, I mean the defense is not playing badly.

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Speaker 6: No, And I'm so glad you pivoted to this because

464
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Speaker 6: I'm looking at the explosive plays. You know, they give

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Speaker 6: the ten longest plays for each team, and the four

466
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Speaker 6: explosive plays they were all passes from Lamar Jackson to

467
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Speaker 6: his receivers, including tight ends. No scores on those immediate plays, right,

468
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Speaker 6: you didn't. Now they resulted in some But the other

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Speaker 6: part is justin Tucker had six field goals in this

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Speaker 6: There weren't six touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: There were six field goals. Well, here's what the defense

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Speaker 1: is doing so far. The Titans six opponents are averaging

473
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Speaker 1: three hundred thirty nine yards per game. One hundred and

474
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Speaker 1: two rushing, two hundred and eighty seven or two hundred

475
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Speaker 1: thirty seven passing. Titans opponents have nine touchdowns in six games,

476
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Speaker 1: eighteen field goals. They're averaging nineteen point five per game. So,

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Speaker 1: by no means is the defense playing poorly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't say that. The Titans, on the other hand,

479
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Speaker 1: are averaging two hundred and eighty four yards of total

480
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Speaker 1: offense one ten rushing, one seventy three passing. Obviously there's

481
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Speaker 1: some rounding in there. I know, I know one ten

482
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Speaker 1: and one seventy three don't add up to two eighty four,

483
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Speaker 1: but there's rounding. The Titans have scored eight touchdowns and

484
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Speaker 1: have sixteen field goals. They're averaging seventeen point three per game.

485
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Speaker 1: So not a lot happening to the point where the

486
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Speaker 1: Titans are scoring the way they want to.

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Speaker 4: Here's a weird one for you.

488
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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker's block pat was the first non successful kick

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Speaker 1: in a Titans game this year for either the Titans

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Speaker 1: or the opponents. That was the first time every every

491
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Speaker 1: field goal has been made, every field goal and up

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Speaker 1: until then, every extra point has been made by both

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Speaker 1: the Titans and their opponents.

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Speaker 4: So far this year, so.

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Speaker 1: We have we have not called I have not called

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Speaker 1: a kick no good on Titans Radio all year.

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Speaker 6: I called we Knew that on We Knew That on

498
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Speaker 6: Nick Folk, But I didn't think about the other one.

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Speaker 5: That's rights to Mike the begetting to the red zone.

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Speaker 1: Well, that and the kicking has been unbelievable in the

501
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Speaker 1: NFL this ye. Yeah, I've got a couple of the

502
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Speaker 1: weird ones for you, But first I need to tell

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Speaker 1: you about our friends at seat geek, the official ticketing

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Speaker 1: heard the name yet, get used to it, because you'll

507
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Speaker 1: be hearing it a lot more this season. Whether you're

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Speaker 1: buying or selling tickets to the Titans games or to

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Speaker 1: any other live event in Nashville, Seat Geek is the

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Speaker 1: partner of the Tennessee Titans. So Titans fans can fan

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Speaker 1: Ramon Foster and Ret Brian talking about some of the

513
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Speaker 1: some of the interesting numbers, not so interesting numbers. By

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Speaker 1: the way, here's another oddity. Oh, the Titans muffed punt

515
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Speaker 1: by Kyle Phillips on Sunday was their first lost fumble

516
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Speaker 1: of the year.

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Speaker 4: How they hadn't lost a fumble to that point for

518
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Speaker 4: all that has gone on, and there has been a lot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's just stop that. Let's keep that at one

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Speaker 6: and keep moving. Yeah, that's when you think about it

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Speaker 6: all e.

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Speaker 5: It also shows you to these numbers are very very close,

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Speaker 5: and you think to yourself, of all the things you've said,

524
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Speaker 5: you're two and six, but you've had so much goal

525
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Speaker 5: in the wrong direction for you. But it's not all

526
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Speaker 5: best really a game of inches, and it's always a

527
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Speaker 5: small detail that goes into wins and losses in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: That's why so hard to win.

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Speaker 5: But that's also why you celebrate wins and loss and

530
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Speaker 5: what wins better than losses in this league too, Mike,

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Speaker 5: it is wins come at a premium, and it's always

532
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Speaker 5: the smallest detail that gets you to that point of understanding, like, look,

533
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Speaker 5: it's a game of inches, man, And when the guys

534
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Speaker 5: go out there giving their the all to what goes

535
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Speaker 5: into this game and you come up short, it's not

536
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Speaker 5: like they're trying to lose. No, you're not trying to

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Speaker 5: lose the ball bounces in there on there. Having one

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Speaker 5: second left before the half in London should be a

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Speaker 5: telltale sign of what it means to win and lose

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Speaker 5: in this league.

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Speaker 1: Titans have fifteen quarterback sacks. They have allowed twenty three,

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Speaker 1: so the team's sack ratio is minus eight, which is

543
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Speaker 1: not horrendous. It's not great, obviously, but it's not horrendous.

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Speaker 1: I mean four of those came in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: with Malik Willis in the game yesterday trying to rally

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Speaker 1: the troops, so you could say that's a little misleading.

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Speaker 1: The Titans turnover ratio is only minus two, so I mean,

548
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Speaker 1: that's not awful. That's not end of the world bad.

549
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Speaker 1: The Titans are averaging six penalties per game for fifty yards.

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Speaker 4: That's that's not bad. And I mean.

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Speaker 1: Maybe some of what we're talking about right here is

552
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Speaker 1: where Rabel is saying we're closer than you think, and

553
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Speaker 1: the ret the whole world doesn't want to hear that

554
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Speaker 1: right now, and I get it. But you usually find

555
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Speaker 1: when you start parsing numbers going into the by, you

556
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Speaker 1: usually find all this damning evidence, and the third down

557
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Speaker 1: stuff is damning, the red zone stuff is damning. But

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Speaker 1: the stuff that you usually is out there is not.

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Speaker 6: Let me give you just as you're speaking about this,

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Speaker 6: I'm looking at the game yesterday with the Ravens seventy

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Speaker 6: two tackles on the defensive stat sheet, forty one of

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Speaker 6: those came from the second and third level defenders.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the game within the game.

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Speaker 1: He tenues to be a prob I mean right now,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Byron ten tackles, that's too many for a safety.

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Speaker 6: And Amani Hooker had seven, seventeen from your safety.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you had Gibbons and al Shier combined

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Speaker 1: for twenty four. And the guys up front for the

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Speaker 1: second game in a row, did not make a lot

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Speaker 1: of plays. Harold Landry did have five. He had two

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Speaker 1: tackles for loss in a sack. I think we've talked

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Speaker 1: about Harold already, best game he's played all year as

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Speaker 1: he comes back from the ACL and if he's rounding

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Speaker 1: into shape, that's a big deal.

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Speaker 6: The numbers in the front better than it was last week,

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Speaker 6: because I'm seeing Jalil Johnson with four, Autrey with four,

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Speaker 6: Jeff with two, Kyle Pecko with two. I think it

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Speaker 6: was only six tackles up front last week, so doubled

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Speaker 6: that output the better.

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Speaker 5: And when you look at the scores of these games also,

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Speaker 5: and I don't think that's been anything to say, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: well they were behind and just let them score. The

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Speaker 5: one off, you know, set game in this game in

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Speaker 5: this season is the Cleveland Cleveland twenty seven through twenty

585
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Speaker 5: four points spread. Right. Everything else has been within a

586
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Speaker 5: score as far as being able to win a state

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Speaker 5: in the games in London, I mean, you get that touchdown.

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Speaker 1: There were leading scores on the interception return, or Derek

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Speaker 1: finishes the runs or Taje finishes the run.

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Speaker 6: I mean, let's go to those two special teams plays

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Speaker 6: that allowed that allowed for six points there. Let's say

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Speaker 6: they don't happen there, and then the Titans come out

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Speaker 6: and score, and it's not.

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Speaker 1: Well, what you're saying, Ramoni is you're saying, I think,

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Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. In five of the

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Speaker 1: six games, the Titans have not been.

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Speaker 4: Outclassed, not blown out.

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Speaker 5: This isn't like the old teams I used to play

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Speaker 5: with the Cleveland Browns, where you just knew he was

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Speaker 5: gonna blow them out and everybody just be ready to

601
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Speaker 5: go home immediately after game. It's not that type of down. Okay,

602
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 5: it's not that type of game. You're fighting in these games,

603
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Speaker 5: and that's why the frustration sets on variable, That's why

604
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 5: the frustration sets with your team players. You just hear

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Speaker 5: if you listen to us postgame, Kevin Byers, speed, you

606
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Speaker 5: hear Big Jeff Speed. You hear these guys try to

607
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Speaker 5: find answers for you, and the answers are You're that

608
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Speaker 5: close but figuring out how to either get a stop,

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Speaker 5: score in the red zone, convert on third down. And

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Speaker 5: I've been a part of teams where that's been a

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Speaker 5: big emphasis. We gotta convert on third down, we gotta

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Speaker 5: score in the red zone. And all it boils down to,

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Speaker 5: y'all is this reps, training of it, detail of it.

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Speaker 5: And that's something that in the course of a game,

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Speaker 5: a defender throw you off your route. I mean, it

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Speaker 5: could be as simple as that. It could be you know,

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Speaker 5: the offensive line picking up a and they were just

618
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Speaker 5: better on you, better than you on those plays. It's

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Speaker 5: the flow of the game, but it's also the detail

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Speaker 5: of understanding that, Okay, we just got to strip it

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Speaker 5: down a little bit and get to get back to zero.

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Speaker 5: I'm figuring out how we get past these points. And

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Speaker 5: of course you talk about the indie game, not giving

624
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Speaker 5: up the big runs, right in the Saints game, three turnovers,

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Speaker 5: playing to play in it, you know, having a play

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Speaker 5: and a part in it. We can pinpoint certain things

627
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Speaker 5: and every game except for the Cleveland game that you

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Speaker 5: say to yourself, take this away, we win well.

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Speaker 1: Of course, now Cleveland has put up numbers defensively through

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Speaker 1: five games that have not been seen since nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: one in terms of yards allowed. They're giving up two

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Speaker 1: hundred point four yards per game through five games. Only

633
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Speaker 1: two teams in modern NFL history in nineteen seventy and

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one two teams have done better. So if

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Speaker 1: you're having a bad day against Cleveland, they're gonna make

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Speaker 1: you pay for it. You know, they did it to

637
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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Rock Purty is no longer the new Tom Brady,

638
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Speaker 1: at least this week, based on a performance against Cleveland,

639
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Speaker 1: So you take that into account. I think another thing

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Speaker 1: about third down and red zone that I've noticed over

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Speaker 1: the years, and Ramon, you played in the league and

642
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Speaker 1: you've covered the league for a long time, been around teams,

643
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Speaker 1: so you take it first. To me, those are the

644
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: moments like you're taking the final exams. It's the tests.

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00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: It's first down's one thing, second down something else. But

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Speaker 1: third down everybody starts to feel it, particularly on the

647
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Speaker 1: road because the crowd's loud. Oh, I've got to make

648
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Speaker 1: sure I stay in my stance properly. The guy on

649
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Speaker 1: the outside. I've got to make sure I run the

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Speaker 1: route to the perfect depth. I've got to make sure

651
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking exactly what the quarterback's thinking. Quarterback knows I

652
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: need to throw a good ball. People on blitz pickup

653
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Speaker 1: have to be perfect. Red zone's exactly the same way.

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00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: There is pressure, so when you don't do it well,

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Speaker 1: all of the sudden, your confidence is weakened. When you

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Speaker 1: do it well, as the Titans have done the last

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Speaker 1: four years, even in practice, whatever, there is belief. So

658
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: when people ask Vrabel to me, why are you not

659
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: doing the red zone as well as you did the

660
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: last four years, and he says, well, it's a different year,

661
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: a different team. That's true, but this team hasn't built

662
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: the confidence that they built, and I think it at

663
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: times shows unfortunately.

664
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 6: And let's take it a step further, because we have

665
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 6: seen this in every one of the six games that

666
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 6: they have played so far. Let's say they've done it

667
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 6: right on first and second down, and so they have

668
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 6: a third and very manageable third and two let's say,

669
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 6: and we've had the self inflicted wounds with a penalty

670
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 6: of off sides or whatever you want to call it,

671
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 6: that ends up dipping you down low again, going, oh, no,

672
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 6: we've made a mistake again. You know, another example of

673
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 6: you can get to a low sure. That's happened so

674
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 6: many times in this season so far.

675
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: Well, and they had the penalty on the one play

676
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: where Derek had picked up the first down, and then

677
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: they come back and they don't make it, and then

678
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: they punt and Duverne returns the punt seventy yards. And

679
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: so those are the things that show up so big

680
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: when you are continually not executing.

681
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: Talk about the pressure. Part of the pressure.

682
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: Part of it is is that the defense knows what

683
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 5: you're doing at that point, usually the third down and

684
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 5: in a rezon here's what a lot of people don't

685
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 5: speak about to and I know we've heard coach Mack

686
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 5: bring this up. Also, you get to the red zone,

687
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 5: the defense gets a twelfth man because you get the

688
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 5: do you get the end zone, you get the sideline,

689
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 5: you get all those things. The playbook shrinks because look,

690
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 5: when it's tight red we can't go yard anymore. We

691
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: got to make sure it's ten to thirteen yards or

692
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 5: it's five to seven yards on the players we're trying

693
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: to make to get to the red zone. You have

694
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: the systems, like I said, of the back end out

695
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 5: the end zone.

696
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 4: You have that.

697
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 5: You also have the idea that more times than not

698
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 5: in the red zone you are going to pass it,

699
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 5: especially in third down, because in the red zone you're

700
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 5: trying to get as many athletes as you can out there,

701
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 5: and more times than not that's usually four or five

702
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 5: pass catchers, so the ability to run the ball is

703
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 5: usually out, especially if it's third and six. You got

704
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: to talk about the management of it too. And let's

705
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 5: go specifically here because I felt like we were going

706
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 5: to see something in London that never actually got there

707
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 5: one just watching Josh Waally Chris Moore both out. No

708
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: trailing weapons matter if we're trying to convert on third down,

709
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 5: and it seems like every game there's been somebody out,

710
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 5: somebody you know can cuss, somebody have an ankle, somebody.

711
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: You lose and you lose the ability to make place.

712
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 5: So if we get to the shorter part of the

713
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 5: field and I play book shrinks, but then our personnel shrink.

714
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 5: That's a hard day at the office. Good point, it

715
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 5: really is. And when you look at okay, all right,

716
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 5: we on our morning showy Heyler, will a.

717
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 4: Lot of people just saying will check us out.

718
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 5: You have a lot of people that say, use Derek

719
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: in this situation. But here's the thing. You line Derek

720
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 5: in and backfield and you decide to run the ball,

721
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 5: and teams know you're going to run the ball with

722
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 5: Derek or they're ready for the screen. It's not a

723
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 5: player you rule in the run right there, because it's

724
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 5: not open.

725
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: Field like what happened to Indianapolis.

726
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I mean, let's speak about the reality of

727
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 5: what you're asking to be. Why why you're not successful

728
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 5: or need to be successful in the red zone. It's

729
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 5: because of those things. You either lost players, got penalties,

730
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 5: or you find yourself third and loan.

731
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 4: And that's a hard sledding, especially.

732
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 5: When you're down trailing. You're down Chris More, you're down

733
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 5: n w I Wiley, Wiley, Josh Whally. When I saw

734
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 5: Josh Wiley catched that ball down the scene, I was

735
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 5: thinking to myself, all, here we go, here's the here's

736
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 5: the weapon we've been looking for, because you got a

737
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 5: big target that's not afraid to go down the field.

738
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 5: And it's unfortunate that he was knocked out of that game.

739
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 5: And it's unfortunate that Chris Moore was both in the

740
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 5: red zone both red zone moments well.

741
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: And the bottom line two with Josh Josh Wiley is growing.

742
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: When you see Mark Andrews yesterday. I'm not saying that

743
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: Josh Wiley is going to be Mark Andrews, but your

744
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: dream would be that he could grow into something like that.

745
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: When you see his catch radius, when you I mean

746
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: he's he's shown up. I mean he made a great

747
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: catch even at the end of the Indianapolis game to

748
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: keep a drive alive. Quarterbacks like to throw to him

749
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: because he's six seven and he's long, and he's Wiley

750
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: pardon the punt in terms of what he can do,

751
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: and he's figured it out. You know, two months ago

752
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: he was the guy going, now, what is it, dude

753
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: that I do? And even a month ago he was.

754
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: But you see the lights start to come on with guys.

755
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: This is what happens, and people are like, well, why

756
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: were we not playing him early? Well, he probably didn't

757
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: know the plays, or he was having to think about

758
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: it so much. He was either making mistakes or he

759
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: wasn't playing quickly enough. Suddenly a guy like Josh Wily,

760
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: the light comes on and you go, yes, he's going

761
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: to help our football team, and I think he is.

762
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: I like this player. I like to pick ret No's.

763
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: It was a great year for tight ends. He was

764
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: a unbelievable value in round five. And I hope he's

765
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: not out long because I think he's going to.

766
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: Help this team.

767
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 6: Here's the other thing about Josh Whillly we haven't discovered

768
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 6: as we're talking about him growing literally physically growing. Here's

769
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 6: a guy that is getting with Frank Rhino in this

770
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 6: strength and conditioning staff. He has a chance to grow

771
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 6: into his body with a little more bulk too, and

772
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 6: that's gonna right. So, I mean, we haven't even talked

773
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 6: about that part when he gets an NFL body on him,

774
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 6: and then the brain part continues to grow as he

775
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 6: is learning the playbook and knows what to do.

776
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: That's where it really becomes dangerous.

777
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: Well, and where they had faith in him Ramon is

778
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: he would stick his nose in even when he didn't

779
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: know what he was doing. He was not afraid to

780
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: stick his nose in there. And what a player at

781
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: any level. Yeah, if you've played football at any level,

782
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: you've heard this. If a guy's willing to stick his

783
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: nose in there, it will happen for him at some point.

784
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: And Josh was not afraid. Maybe confused, maybe didn't know everything,

785
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: maybe because he was a rookie. This is the ninety

786
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time rookie thing that happens. But

787
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: if that guy's willing to stick his nose in there,

788
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: he'll grow into something.

789
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 5: What you're saying is effort is a talent thing, that's

790
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 5: something that's.

791
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: In you, and physicality and he has both of those things.

792
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 4: Yes he does.

793
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: Man And again the charges game, I think he went

794
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: out with an ankle. Okay, and then this game, I

795
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 5: don't think. I don't want people to ever think like, Okay,

796
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 5: well you know he's injury prone type of thing. No,

797
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 5: that was a hit that he took, he got sandwiched,

798
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 5: and then Pole drive by Kyle Hamilton in London. Okay,

799
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 5: not many him come back from that, and he tried

800
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 5: to get up all those things. You saw the TV

801
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 5: graphics of everything that was available to him. But again,

802
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 5: when we speak about how this team has lost in

803
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 5: you know, the woes of third down, the woes of

804
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 5: the red zone, the woes of trying to get this

805
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 5: run game established, and the course, there was a change

806
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: at left tackle yesday that happened to and I think

807
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: we all saw immediate responses out of that. Also, the

808
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 5: season is always a puzzle. Certain pieces gotta fit and

809
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 5: you try to figure certain things out. It's not like

810
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 5: this team is just bad or been bad losses. But

811
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 5: it's not a bad team. There's answers to the questions

812
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 5: that you have. It's a matter of of course, detail

813
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 5: always the ball bouncing your way sometimes. I know Kyle

814
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 5: Fellers would love to have that back. One second, y'all,

815
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 5: we're talking about one second, and I think they had

816
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 5: to look at the clock to make sure that the

817
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 5: ball was down.

818
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 4: Those types of things come again.

819
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 5: I've always had the model you want to be on

820
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 5: an airplane ride up, not a roller coaster. If you're

821
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 5: sending at all times, even with a couple dips because

822
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 5: there's turbulence on the airplanes. Right, there's a little bit

823
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 5: of a dip there. But as long as you're ascending,

824
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: you got something. This team can fight out of this. Again,

825
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 5: only one divisional game so far, and that team's gonna

826
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 5: have to fight out of a hole itself with the

827
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 5: coach that is, you got an opportunity to go to

828
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 5: a quarterback, play a quarterback soon enough. And Trevor Lawrence

829
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 5: has had his ups and downs also, and a rookie

830
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 5: in Houston.

831
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 4: All you need is to win your division. That's the goal.

832
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 5: Win your division, get the shirts, get the hat, and

833
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 5: punch your ticket to the playoffs.

834
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: Here's another one, so I'll end it with this. The

835
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: only Titans this season to catch touchdown passes are can

836
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: you name them?

837
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 4: Josh Wiler. Josh Wiley is one trailer gets to the

838
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: end zone. Sure, no hop.

839
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: Haden got hop hadn't gotten it either, Nick Westbrook Akine

840
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: has two. That's got to change, right. You gotta get

841
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: Hopkins in the you gotta and you're gonna get Burke's back,

842
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: which is exciting, and I mean, who knows and a

843
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: cockwo you know Chick has has factored in the offense,

844
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: but has they tried to hit him on a couple

845
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: of big plays in the game in London Almost there,

846
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: almost there twice, you know, I don't know. Here's another one.

847
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 4: Okay.

848
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: So the Titans have five takeaways this season. Travis Gibson

849
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: had a strip sack against Cincinnati. Two players have the

850
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: other two. They have two we or have the other four.

851
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: I should say so. Sean Murphy Bunting has a stripsack

852
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: at Cleveland and an interception against the Ravens, had a

853
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: Mani Hooker had an interception and a forced fumble and

854
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: a recovered fumble in the season opener. So only three Titans.

855
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: Only two Titans have cut touchdown passes. Only three Titans

856
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: have forced turnovers so.

857
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 4: Far this year. And those I mean that has to change,

858
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: right it does.

859
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean just the law of averages you're saying, my goodness,

860
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: it speaks to level of big playability and guys making

861
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: things happen. Yes, got to step that up, especially the

862
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: guys who are getting paid. And then the other part

863
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: of it, too is just it happens.

864
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 5: It happens, it does, and nobody wants to hit add

865
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: E skins, So absolutely.

866
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: Not get it.

867
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: If I'm listening to the OTP right now, I know

868
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. But if you've done

869
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: it long enough and been around it long enough, you

870
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: understand it will happen.

871
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 5: It does eventually, the nutcrack as far as what you

872
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 5: and starts off if everybody's right minded.

873
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 4: So here's the thing.

874
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: So we're going onto this bye week, right, guys, and

875
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 5: everything has the opportunity to fester a little bit mm hmm, right.

876
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 4: And that's what you have to fight off.

877
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 5: You have to have the understanding that, look, hopefully Tannehill

878
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 5: can get back health and if not, the young guys

879
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 5: need to be ready if there is a change at

880
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 5: on the offensive line, figure out how you guys gonna

881
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 5: work and messing jail together. And here's the other thing too,

882
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: because we all heard the audio of Big Jeff Jeffrey

883
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: Simmons kind of challenging this teammates, whether that was the

884
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 5: offensive side of the.

885
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: Ball also included in that.

886
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 5: I think that has to be the case too, because

887
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: if you're only you know, having forty plus plays in

888
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: a game, forty is play less than fifty plays in

889
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 5: a game. A portion of you feel that the other

890
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 5: side of the ball feels that the offense needs to

891
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 5: feel that pressure a little bit. Also, everybody has to

892
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 5: put their hand in a pile. In weeks like this,

893
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 5: there can't be any separation, there can be any fragments.

894
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: When it comes down to this team, you're in a hole,

895
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 5: the fox hole with each other. Either you gonna come together.

896
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 5: Keep the outside chatter at a minimum. Understand that. And

897
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 5: I hate to even use this because you know how

898
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 5: I feel about the same. But the Patriots just do

899
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: your job. Verbel said those types of things. Everybody has

900
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 5: to do their job. Don't try to don't screw me

901
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 5: over trying to go. Make a play for yourself.

902
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 4: Make your play.

903
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 5: If it accounts with just five yards on the catch,

904
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 5: take your five and get down. If it's you holding

905
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 5: the offensive lineman so that the defensive linebacker can make

906
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 5: a play, do that. I don't care about your stat line.

907
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 5: We need to win as a team and that's what

908
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: I feel like. Big Jeff's sentiment was after the game

909
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 5: in London, I need people to do their jobs so

910
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 5: we can all eat.

911
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 4: That's always the Lion pack eats together.

912
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 6: And the only thing I'll follow that up with is

913
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 6: like Rabel, teams are usually pretty good after the bye week.

914
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: They are so to that. But I can't follow it

915
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: up with much else. I thought you were just gonna

916
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: go amen. I mean, yeah, let's pass the offering, play right,

917
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: first three stanzards of justice.

918
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: I am yes, I wouldn't try to golf there, but

919
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 5: I promise you the passion of this game because we're

920
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 5: close to these guys. Sure, we see their faces, we

921
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 5: see their reactions, we hear them being in a locker room.

922
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 4: This is not a bad football team. It ain't.

923
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: It's not a it's a team that's not playing well

924
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: right now, but it's not a bad football team. And

925
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: they're two different things.

926
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 4: They are very much so.

927
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: And you know, you see teams stink it up, and

928
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: we saw a few over a period of time, and

929
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: we didn't go to the playoffs two win team and

930
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: a three win team and a six win team in

931
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: twenty twelve that might have been worse than the two

932
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: other teams.

933
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 6: And there was a laundry list of things that needed

934
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 6: to be it's a much shorter list what we're talking about.

935
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this can be fixed. And the schedule puts you

936
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: in a position if you take care of your business,

937
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: you can get back in it. But it's aiming towards Atlanta.

938
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got you've got to go get that game,

939
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: certainly to have that momentum going into Pittsburgh on Thursday night.

940
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 5: And here's the thing too, there's a lot of opportunity

941
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 5: in this if you were looking for, if Malik was

942
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 5: looking for it, Will Levice y'all was looking for for,

943
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 5: if Taj was in search for NPF being back into

944
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 5: the conversation trailing, I mean, honestly, I know injuries are

945
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 5: a big part of it, but let's figure out a

946
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: way to stick with it. That group of five or

947
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 5: six dues of youth that I've mentioned right there, we've

948
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 5: all talked about separately too.

949
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: Now is your opportunity, Sure, run with it. You got

950
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 4: a game.

951
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 5: Against a former offensive coordinator here and author Smith coming

952
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 5: into town, a home.

953
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: Game where you're wearing the Oilers uniform.

954
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 5: Come on, man, and then you got to go on

955
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: the road to Thursday night football. You can bang bang

956
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 5: this thing and get right and honestly put a put

957
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 5: a stake in a roll, you know, on what you're

958
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 5: trying to be as a group.

959
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 4: And I say that younger group because they have a lot.

960
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 5: Of optimism and there's opportunity there for those dudes that

961
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 5: I mentioned run with it this week, especially coming out

962
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 5: of a buy carpe DM.

963
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So the question I will ask you about the

964
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: Oilers uniforms. If Ramone Fosters playing for the Titans and

965
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: he's getting to wear the Oiler uniforms and he's wearing

966
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: big seventy eight and he's looking all clean, what color

967
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: shoes do you wear?

968
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 5: I'm wearing white white. I'm doing white white. Yes, I

969
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 5: gotta go white with the white socks. Oh my gosh,

970
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 5: seriously give me white socks, white white, white, white shoes.

971
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: They white shoes, Yeah, yeah, but I think I would

972
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: have to wear red shoes.

973
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 4: With the red face mask and red gloves. Details details.

974
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: It makes a puff, I know. I tell you what

975
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: else some guys have got. They have powder blue shoes,

976
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: powder blue cleats.

977
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 5: You know the reason I said white, Mike, It's because

978
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: as an offensive line, we don't get much anyway to

979
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 5: wear black shoes. White shoes, man, that's all they give us.

980
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 4: Black shoes are pretty sweet, though they are, But when

981
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: you got a light colored jersey, but with that face

982
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: with the red faces. That's the biggest thing. It's what

983
00:47:59,600 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: I want.

984
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: It's it's why I said on the OTP when she

985
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: started talking about this, I said, please please wear the

986
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: version of the oilers uniforms that we wore as the

987
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: Tennessee Oilers, and it was the eighty one through ninety

988
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: eight version. It was the last sixteen years of the

989
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers and the first two years the team was

990
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: in Tennessee where they were the Tennessee Oilers. Because I

991
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: think the helmet's the sharpest. I think the outline is

992
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: the sharpest. I understand that the nineteen sixty look as

993
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: the original, you know, didn't. It wasn't my favorite. No,

994
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: this is run and shoot, this is run and shoe,

995
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: this is this is Warren Moon and.

996
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: This is given Ernest Gibbons. This is the dudes, you.

997
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 6: Know, and young Steve McNair and young Eddie George and

998
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 6: young I mean.

999
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 4: It pops, it pops, it pops.

1000
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: And when you see the helmet, like when we saw

1001
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: the helmets at practice, when when I've seen the helmet

1002
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: in the building, you're like, oh my goodness, oh my god.

1003
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you you can't believe how good

1004
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: it looks.

1005
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 6: And you're saying to yourself, this is going to happen.

1006
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 6: This is going to happen. See them go out there

1007
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 6: last week in the in their helmets to practice and

1008
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 6: kind of get those the fittings.

1009
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: Right before they do this game. I got excited.

1010
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: I got in the jerseys and they are just clean, amazing, clean, amazing.

1011
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 4: I mean, the replica jerseys are great.

1012
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: But we did the private event and Big Jeff was

1013
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: there and oh my gosh, so my.

1014
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: Ask, I said red shoes because I'm wearing red shoes.

1015
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 4: My history is this is here. And coach Montsak talk

1016
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 4: about him too.

1017
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he called them the silks. They don't call

1018
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 5: them jersey nice because they look so smooth.

1019
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 4: It like in hockey they call them sweaters. Yeah, they

1020
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: call them the silks. Man. I was just like, oh my,

1021
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 4: they are they are very pretty.

1022
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: And of course the other thing too is when the

1023
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: team played in Tennessee for the two years, they wore white,

1024
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: and the idea was we're always going to be on

1025
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: the road and so we're gonna wear white and just

1026
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: embrace no excuses all of this.

1027
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 4: But people didn't get to see the love you blue blue,

1028
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: except like in the ninety seven Dallas game on Thursday

1029
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: when they had the drive that took the whole third

1030
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: quarter and they beat Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith and the

1031
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 4: cowboy Marcus Robertson had a big game. We could go

1032
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 4: on and on. We could go on and on. We

1033
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 4: we've got to stop. We have to stop. But see,

1034
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 4: there's a lot to be excited about. OT people.

1035
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: Hang in there.

1036
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: Seriously. Ramon Foster, thank you all, Ret Brian, thank you

1037
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: glad to do it.

1038
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: And to the OT people, we say thank you for

1039
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: listening to the otpeople.