1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This is the business of sports where in the situation 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: that we haven't dealt with in modern times, pandemic here 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: has really accelerated the investments that we've been advocating for 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: for years. From a Macrow standpoint, I think our sport 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: industry is really forced to look at the business a 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: little bit differently in depth conversations with the leaders in 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: the sports industry. Who wants to be the sacrificial lambs 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: that shows up at the first big major sporting event, 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: were part of something much bigger than the sport right 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: now and the health and day of our stakeholders that 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: works much important every moment. I think we're all from 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: the business respective thinking about the impact that the virus 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: is having on across the country against Bloomberg Business of 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Hello, I'm Jason Kelly and Mike 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: Lynch and I'm Michael Barr, And this is the Bloomberg 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: Business of Sports podcast where we explore the big money 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: issues in the world of sports. And today we're excited 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: to be joined by Derek Stevens. He's the owner and 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: CEO of the d Las Vegas Golden Gate Hotel and 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: Casino and the soon two debut talking about just days 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: from now the Circle Resort and casino. It's built as 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: the world's largest sports books, So a timely, an important conversation. 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: We know our audience is looking forward to this. Derek, 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us from Vegas. Yeah, 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you guys for having me on. So 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: let me start by asking you, basically what we ask 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: everybody that comes on this show. What's your life like 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: right now? What is it like in Vegas? You know, 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: we're all sort of on the outside looking in, but 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: it feels like, as the economists say, some real kind 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: of green shoots there in Vegas. Yeah, you know, I 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: think I think you know, when we reopened, it was 33 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: June fourth, and you know, since then, we've had a 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: few additional governor related directives that we've made some adjustments with. 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: But I think in Las Vegas, what you're seeing is, 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: particularly in the last month or so, we're seeing more 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: people come back to visit, more people want to get 38 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: out of the house. I think that people have come 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: to realize that if you do get out of the house, 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: Las Vegas is a pretty safe place. Uh, you know, 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: you can't go go more than twenty ft inside of 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: a casino without a hand sanitizing station, and you know, 43 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: I think, I think, um, the culture on the country 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: has changed a little bit. You know, when we opened 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: in June there, we opened without masks, and then later 46 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: in June masks were required, and that was a little 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: bit tough initially, but now it's not a big deal. 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think everyone everyone's very a customed to it. 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: So I think what we're doing is keeping everybody safe 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: and alone people who go out and have a little 51 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: bit of fun. You guys opened the Circuit Resort and 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: Casino Octo, uh, and that is all set now. Back 53 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: in the day they used to do dry runs. I 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: don't know now if you guys done a dry run 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: with that and and what happens, that's a great question. 56 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: We're doing. We're doing our first one Thursday night, and 57 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: then we're doing our second and last one on Sunday afternoon. 58 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: So we've got to uh two of these play dates 59 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: or dry runs as you call them, uh coming up here. 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: So we're we're within just a few hours of of 61 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: of testing everything. So we're we're getting ready. Derek, tell 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: me about the sports book that you have. I'm reading 63 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: the plans about it just seems absolutely fascinating and almost 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: irresistible if if you make the trip out to Vegas. Yeah, 65 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, I I thought that. You know, I've always 66 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: been a big sports fan, and uh, you know, I came. 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: I came to Vegas for a lot of reasons, for business, 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: for pleasure. I'm a big boxing fan and uh and 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I've spent a lot of a lot 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: of days and a lot of nights in sports books 71 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: throughout the years. And you know, when we had an 72 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to build one ourselves, um we uh, we went 73 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: out and we really tried to take uh you know, 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: some of the best ideas from from multiple places, and 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: uh yeah, this will be uh the sports book in circle. 76 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: It will be the world's largest sports book. Three three 77 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: full stories, uh you know, tiered seating, and um, you 78 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: know the screen, she's a majestic beauty. I can tell 79 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: you that world's biggest screen, the whole deal. So we've 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: got we've got a great setup. So if you're if 81 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: you've got some of your listeners that are interested in 82 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: coming out and watching all the games, they'll all beyond 83 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: because it's a it's it's something pretty special so I 84 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: want to talk about recent history if we can in 85 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: a few minutes, Derek, but I want to take you 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: back a little way is not to play too much 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: of this is your life, but talk to us about 88 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: getting to Vegas, really moving to Vegas with your first investment, 89 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, fourteen years ago, I believe it was. It 90 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: was a different town then, and obviously the intervening years 91 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: have been up and down from an economic perspective, for sure. 92 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean when you arrived, the world was in a 93 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: different place, the country was in a different place. So 94 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: sort of walk us through the evolution of your business 95 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: model and how you have sort of created that and 96 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: evolved it over the years. Sure. Yeah. When I came 97 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: to Las Vegas in two thousand and six, I mean 98 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: one of my primary motivations was moving my investment portfolio 99 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: that I that I managed out out to Las Vegas. 100 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: And you know, Nevada is very pro business, no income tax, 101 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: no stated income tax, so it's a better environment for 102 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: me to run our investment portfolio. But for myself personally 103 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: and my brother, we're operators, so we had an opportunity 104 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: to purchase the Golden Gate Hotel and Casino. It's kind 105 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: of cool about this is to address is one three 106 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: Month Street. It's actually the very first building in the 107 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: history of Vegas, thirty years before gambling came around, and 108 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: UH purchased at and an opportunity to kind of cut 109 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: my teeth in uh in the various divisions, you know, 110 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: in the food beverage areas and the table slots, and 111 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: then eventually into sports. So it was it was my first, 112 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: my first investment here in Vegas. And uh, what's what's 113 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: kind of cool now is it's directly across the street 114 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: from where circus opening, so it's only a hundred feet away. 115 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: But but yeah, I moved out. Really an investment portfolio 116 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: was a key thing, and then uh in managing the 117 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: small business and then kind of growing it from there. 118 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: Was was my my initial, my initial a few years 119 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: out here. I know you wish you were open on Sunday, 120 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: especially for the New England Denver game, because I know 121 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: a lot of people at the casino side made a 122 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: lot of money off of that game. New England lost 123 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: the Denver eighteen twelve and somebody's got to set the 124 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: line for that. So if you can take us through 125 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: the process of how a sports book sets the line 126 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: not only for the NFL, but for for any major sport. Yeah. Absolutely. 127 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: You know. Our our guys are sports book director. His 128 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: name was Matt Metcalfe. UM, he's in our risk room 129 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: and and UM last year Circus sports UM really became 130 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: the worldwide leader in setting the college football line. And 131 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: and what that means is you take a handful of 132 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: guys that have have opinions and they basically hash it out. 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: They all use their power rankings and they come up 134 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: with the number. So like, for example, next week, Big 135 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: ten Stars. So let's just say Michigan's playing Minnesota. You 136 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: take the three three UH three top power rankings, you 137 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: try to evaluate that, then you try to figure out 138 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: some public sentiment, and then you come up with the number. 139 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: And then really what we do is we put the 140 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: we post the number, and for a period of a 141 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: couple of hours, the the UH. The betting limits are 142 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: rather small and and every hour that goes by, the 143 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: limits get a little bit bigger until you feel that 144 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: you've reached the market equilibrium level for the line. So 145 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of how it starts and how it works 146 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: works this way to UH to the number that has 147 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: posted for everybody to take a shot at. Sorry, Lynchia, 148 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to rub an inn about the Patriots 149 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: that really helped me in a lot in my Survivor 150 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: pool Man, people got knocked out. I'm sorry. I should 151 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: I said the quiet part out loud again. I'm sorry, 152 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: And we all know that Michael, that was a personal 153 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: question for him. How they set the line, Yeah, exactly, 154 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: asking for a friend, that's Michael. I got a pencil 155 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: right here, man. Uh Derek, obviously the big elephant in 156 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: the room in your business is the states that are 157 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: legalizing gambling. Now, I'm sure everyone of your business has 158 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: seen this coming for years. How have you prepared for it? 159 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: How do you combat it? And how do you overcome it? Well, 160 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: I would tell you in your last couple of comments, 161 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think we're combating anything. I don't 162 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: think we want to overcome anything. Um. You know right now, 163 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: um sports wagering is legal in nineteen states and moral 164 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: becoming in uh in and and there's really a couple 165 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: of couple of elements here. First, the more states that 166 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: allow legalized sports wagering, we feel, we feel that that's 167 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: great for our brick and mortar model out in Las Vegas. 168 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is a lot of 169 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: the people that are that are downloading their apps and 170 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: whatever state they live in, well, some of those people 171 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: come to Vegas and when they do, they're all gonna 172 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: want to come and come and check out the world's 173 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: largest sports book. So we are we are very very 174 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: much in support of h of UM increased legal UM 175 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: sports wagering throughout the country. Number two, Circus Sports is 176 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: also UM an app that you can get in other areas. Currently, 177 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, you can use our app anywhere in the 178 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: state of Nevada. We we were licensed in the state 179 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: of Colorado a few months ago, so we're up in 180 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: Colorado and we're actively looking at additional states to UH 181 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: to bring the Circus Sports app to to those customers 182 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: in those states. And how have you seen the technology 183 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: in the app side really evolved? Me? And you think 184 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: about what has changed since that fateful reload that you 185 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: made back in in UH back fourteen years ago. Uh, Derek, 186 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's boomed, and I feel like especially it's 187 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: boomed during the pandemic, especially when sports we're back up 188 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: and running. How do you assess the competitive landscape? Yeah, 189 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean I think you know, that's that's the one 190 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: thing that that uh definitely evolved and evolved more quickly 191 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: during uh during the summer and spring and summer, like 192 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: a lot of things with technology, I mean, we really 193 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: accelerated the learning curve and and uh really led by, 194 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, in sports wagering. Um, the sports wagering area 195 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: really led by initially uh UFC, and then NASCAR and 196 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: Gulf jumped into it. UM that really, uh that really 197 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: got people really excited because from a social distancing perspective, UM, 198 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: betting on your phone is a great, great thing to do. 199 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: You know, by the time baseball came back at the 200 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: end of July, that was that was great. And then 201 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: really you know, August September and you know, so far, 202 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks of October, I mean, the 203 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: sports wagering numbers are are are up so dramatically. We um, 204 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're not limited because we're privately held companies, 205 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: so I don't have quiet periods. But you know, we 206 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: we uh, we had some projections on what we thought 207 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: this football season was gonna was gonna look like. And uh, um, 208 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, we thought we were being pretty aggressive about it. 209 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: But these numbers are really kind of blowing us away. 210 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: The demand for sports wagering is uh is strong, and 211 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: it is growing. I mean, it helps you, it helps 212 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: you kind of understand some of the valuations you're seeing 213 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: in some of the publicly traded companies in this space. Now, 214 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: this isn't a normal sports year, especially for the sports 215 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: books because if you NFL obviously is king, but during 216 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: this time, in a normal period, you'd either have also 217 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: an NHL game or an NBA game, and then everything overlaps, 218 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: and then you have baseball coming uh in the spring, 219 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: so everything was overlapping. But now because of well the 220 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: World Series, will is coming up. But I'm just wondering 221 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: if a lot of people out there are betting on 222 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: soccer now, because that's something that's continuing. Oh yeah, you know, 223 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: there's no question, Uh, the soccer wagering is something that 224 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: that that they've really got the benefit of a lot 225 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: of a lot of these leagues not not posted games. 226 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: So there's a significant growth in soccer wagering that we've 227 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: seen over the course of the last few months. Um 228 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: that that was definitely a sport that that picked up 229 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: picked up some new customers. Um, you know based upon 230 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: how played out with with your app, do you actually 231 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: physically have to be in a state that has legalized 232 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 1: gambling or do you have to be in Nevada or 233 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Colorado in other words, Rhode Island other than in New England, 234 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: New Hampshire and Rhode Island. If I drive into New Hampshire, 235 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: can I use your app? Yeah? Great question, Um you 236 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: know what the and the answer is is, uh, it 237 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: really depends upon the state. So for example, in the 238 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: state of Nevada, you have to sign up with your 239 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: app at one of our at one of our casinos, 240 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: um and that's where you have to make your initial 241 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: deposit as well, and then you can you can use 242 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: your phone. You can use the Circus Sports app anywhere 243 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: within the state of Nevada. Youve got to be in 244 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: the state to make a wager. Colorado is a little 245 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: bit different. Colorado is a state that that utilizes remote 246 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: registration and remote funding. It's it's it's the most progressive 247 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: of all the states. So you can be sitting at 248 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: home and download the Circus Sports Colorado app and then 249 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: you just have to take a picture of your driver's license. 250 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: It gets verified with it about fifteen seconds. And then 251 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: you have the ability to fund your account through any 252 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: method you want, through a wire transfer, through an a 253 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: c you can use your you can use your credit 254 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: card just to just to fund it. So Colorado is 255 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: the most progressive of all the states. So so to 256 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: answer your question is each state is different and uh, 257 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: and they continue to come out in a different manner, 258 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: so that that's kind of it plays out. And so, Derek, 259 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: how do you get involved with the general push among 260 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: casino operators and sports book especially online sports book operators 261 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: to push for more legalization and and and how to 262 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: on a state by state basis and where does that 263 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: sit right now? And you know politics are involved, both 264 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: on the state and federal and local level. Walk us 265 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: through how you see that evolving over the next couple 266 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: of years. Yeah, I think I think what we're going 267 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: to see, I mean, particularly you know, after what's happened 268 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: in I mean, states are gonna be um a little 269 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: bit more aggressive than looking for um alternate revenue. Yeah, 270 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: because they're sorry to interrupt you, I mean you've got massive, 271 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: massive revenue shortfalls in so many states owing to COVID, right, Yeah, 272 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean I mean because of COVID, I mean everything. 273 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: Every state is going to be way out of way 274 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: out of what they projected on their budget for. And 275 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: I think I think there's just a natural, um, a 276 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: natural push now on states that don't have legal uh 277 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: legal sports wagering that that it's gonna it's gonna move forward. 278 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're gonna see Ohio's gonna be 279 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: not too far down the road. I think you're gonna 280 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: see some of the changing regulations in Michigan. I think 281 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: Montana is gonna update some of the rules and REGs. 282 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: And then I think, I think you've got about six 283 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: or seven other states that are you know, in we 284 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: then their legislatures are kind of working their way through 285 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: it because because this is a service, this is a 286 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: product that people want and and it's safe and and 287 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: I think, you know, for for people in many states, 288 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: they're really pushing their legislatures to to uh to get 289 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: moving and not get left behind. We had talked earlier 290 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: with another guest and we were talking about how the 291 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: good old corner bookie is not going to go out 292 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: of business, and for one simple reason, because the bookie 293 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: will give you credit. And I'm wondering, one day will 294 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: sports books get into something like that and offer credit 295 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: to the players. Well yeah, I mean, I mean Circus 296 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Sports does right now. So if you walk up to 297 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: walk up to UH to counter at the d Las 298 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: Vegas or the Golden Gate or circuit, you just get 299 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: a credit manager. They'll be able to help you fill 300 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: out fill out a credit application. So that's that's evolving 301 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: really as we speak, right you know, right now, I think, UM, 302 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: I think you're right though. I think the quarterbook is 303 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna do okay, UM, And I think there's a lot 304 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: of reasons, a lot of reasons for that. UM. Let 305 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: me just take give you an example. I mean, the 306 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: quarter bookie in UH in Chicago or anywhere in the 307 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: state of Illinois, UM doesn't have a whole lot to 308 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: worry about. The way they you know, Illinois set up 309 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: their their regulations and their tax basis, it doesn't really 310 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: allow for um, a legal sports book to be very competitive. 311 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: So the UH, the illegal bookie is going to do 312 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: just find in Illinois, UM, because just because with with 313 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: the reg Illinois set up, you're just not going to 314 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: get that much that much plays as what you would 315 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: in some of the other states. Of course, I was 316 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: asking the bookie question for a friend. You're going to 317 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: have such a well informed friends. Really, it's really amazing. 318 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: You're so generous. I'm going to give him a generous guy. Hey, Derek, 319 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: since you're reopened in June, how is the Is the 320 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 1: foot traffic increased as it decreased? Has it been flat? 321 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: How was how is it? You know since June we've 322 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: had it's. Uh, it's been many different different scenarios. So 323 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: i'd say, you know, the first ten days, there's a 324 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: little bit of euphoria. Um, the places were very packed. UM. 325 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: A few weeks later, you know, we had a regulation 326 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: where where everyone had to wear masks. And like I said, 327 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: now now it doesn't seem like that big of a deal, 328 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 1: but but at that point in time, UM, it was 329 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: a big deal. And and it was difficult to implement 330 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: because there were an awful lot of people that didn't 331 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: want to want to wear a mask. And we're we're 332 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: willing to become aggressive about it. But but I think 333 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: we've gotten past that. UM. I would say that that, 334 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, throughout the rest of the summer, because there's 335 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: there's so much concern from the airline industry and people 336 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: having a reluctance to fly. We saw, you know, a 337 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: mixed change where Vegas became more of a drive in market. Um. 338 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: You know, at my casinos, at the at the d 339 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Las Vegas and Golden Gate, our our our main customer 340 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: base is Midwestern base, So it's Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin, 341 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: Minnesota that that's really our our bread and butter in 342 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: And when people are afraid to get an airplane, well 343 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: that's tough. So from from the casino management business, that 344 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: means you have to go out and you have to 345 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: start marketing to people that are able to drive into town. 346 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of of a mixed change there. Um. 347 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: I would tell you though, in the last few weeks, 348 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: I think, uh, you're starting to see more and more 349 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: people fly into McCarron Airport and and pretty clearly, pretty 350 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: clearly the the the further domestic travelers, it's pretty noticeable 351 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: that they're they're showing up now. And So Derek, before 352 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: we let you go, gotta ask you about downtown Vegas 353 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: that you know, all of us have been to Las 354 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: Vegas numerous times. We've sort of seen over the course 355 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: of history, downtown sort of eban flow certainly seems like 356 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: it's coming up. The last time I was there maybe 357 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: eighteen months two years ago, definitely bumping, as the kids say. 358 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: And certainly the debut of Circu is only going to 359 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: to help that. Uh. Talk to us about that and 360 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: and what you see as the future of downtown. Yeah, 361 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: I mean when you look at two thousand nineteen, I 362 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: mean Downtown Vegas, you know, three month Street really amazing 363 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: on the visitation, the uh, the quantity of people in 364 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: twenty four million people that visited Downtown Vegas, so the 365 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: second most visited tourist destination in America. So I think 366 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: I think there's a certain element where where people that 367 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: come to Las Vegas kind of downtown as as part 368 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: of their uh must must see list or must do list, 369 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: and uh, and I think that you know that's going 370 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: to continue on. I mean we're we're noticing it right now. 371 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the crowds are are are socially distanced, but 372 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: but but in some ways the places are packed. I 373 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: mean everybody's coming out, everybody's wearing masks, and and you know, 374 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited about having this investment in downtown Las Vegas. 375 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: I Uh, I probably wouldn't have done an investment of 376 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: the size and scope of what circle is um elsewhere. 377 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: It's just this was the right location and uh and 378 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: the right time. So I'm I'm excited about open this 379 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: up next week. And so what was that if I 380 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: made following that, like, what was the tipping point do 381 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: you think for for downtown? Because you know, we're probably 382 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: having a different conversation and you would obviously know it 383 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: far better than I. At different conversation, you might have 384 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: a different investment thesis ten years ago. What what do 385 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: you think was the what was the point where downtown 386 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: really became much more of a destination Again, Well, I 387 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: think I think one of the things that that really 388 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: happened was the fact that that you didn't have to um, 389 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: stay in the hotel room in downtown to uh to 390 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: to enjoy it. What do I mean by that? There's 391 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: only six thousand hotel rooms in downtown Las Vegas. Do 392 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: you multiplied that by three six five days a year? 393 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: It's only two million room nights, but we're doing twenty 394 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: four million visitors. I really think that what happened was 395 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: you have a little bit more of an urbanization happening. 396 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: You've got younger people wanted to that wanted to move downtown. 397 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: You've got ride cheering. Um, no one wants to drink 398 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: and drive, but but everybody likes to have a drink. 399 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: So this became a really really hot, hot destination for 400 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: people to come out and get a good meal, maybe 401 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: have have have a little bit of fun on the 402 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: tables and slots and things like that, get some drinks 403 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: and then uh and then you know, then you have 404 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: your uber, your lift to people to take you home 405 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: or take you back to your other hotels. So I 406 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: really think it was a combination of some of the 407 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: rides sharing and um and and the fact that that 408 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: people really enjoy, you know, hanging out in an outdoor 409 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: bar district where you kind of walk from casino to 410 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: casino and uh and and and enjoy all the free entertainment. 411 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: Which brings me to the last point that I wanted 412 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: to make, which is I I insisted to myself that 413 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: we get in this in the garage. Mahal tell us 414 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: about the Yeah, you know, I've I've been actually you know, 415 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: for people that I've been heading around for ten years, 416 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: I've been lamented. You know, this doesn't really even have 417 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: to do just with hotels and casinos. But I always wondered, 418 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: why do garage is have to be so dirty and 419 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: so dimly lit and so cold and dark, and you know, 420 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: and and and and provide you that feeling of it 421 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: being unsafe. I just never thought that that was a 422 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: required And uh, you know, garage Mah Hall is something 423 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna do where we're really it's a it's a 424 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: transportation hub. I mean, the entire first floor is just 425 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: really made for ride cheering, whether it's Uber lift or 426 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: or limos or cabs things like that. So we try 427 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: to design something that was the easiest um venue to 428 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: get in and out of and and and that includes 429 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: all that we get into, the highways on and off 430 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: ramps and things like that. And then what we what 431 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: we did is we kind of spruce it up where 432 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: we added some music, some great lighting, a lot of art. 433 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: Uh and you know, concierge is on different levels and 434 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: and uh, we wanted to create a really really upbeat spot. 435 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: Is our is our kind of our main entrance. And 436 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: and I just thought I didn't want anybody ever to 437 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: call it a parking garage because this is so much more. 438 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: That's why we wanted to name it. And I just 439 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: thought garage Ma Hall was the was the perfect name 440 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: for this stuff, for this destination. Well well done. I'm 441 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: so glad we got to discuss that because that was 442 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: my favorite thing of all of the all the research 443 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: and getting to this conversation. Derek Stevens, best of luck 444 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: to you, owner and CEO of the d Las Vegas 445 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Golden Gate Hotel and Casino, the Downtown Las Vegas Events Center, 446 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: and maybe most importantly, the Soonto Debut circa resort and 447 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: casino featuring the aforementioned garage Mahal. Best of luck. Keep 448 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: us posted on on how it all goes. We're eager 449 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: to hear more about your success in the future. Derek. Alright, thanks, 450 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: thanks to talk to you guys, Thank you, thank you. 451 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: By the way, Derek, are you is your app in Pennsylvania? 452 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Just for a frint, Not currently in Pennsylvania. We're currently 453 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: in Nevada and we are in all right. Well, you 454 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: got your first customer lined up when you get to Pennsylvania. 455 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: All right. Well. Thanks. This is the Bloomberg Business of 456 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: Sports podcast. I'm Michael Barr along with Mike Lynch and 457 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: Jason Kelly, and we're here each and every Monday, Wednesday 458 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: and Thursday, exploring the world of money and sports. 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