1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, luck and load. So Michael 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Very show is on the air. 3 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: I probably had twenty emails and said crazy twin to 4 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: train with him minutes. 5 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: I disagree. I think the song. 6 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 4: Starts kind of crashing that you can't you can't ignore 7 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: the song. If you're in an arena and the song 8 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: comes on, you can't just keep having a normal conversation 9 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: while this. 10 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: Is playing in the background. 11 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: By the way, it's Ozzy Osborne's birthday, or that m hm, 12 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 4: there is John Michael Osborne here, or to the chorus, 13 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: and I still don't think it's yeah. 14 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: I still. 15 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: And this song plays in my head when I know 16 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: somebody's crazy. That's how I get through being around somebody 17 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: that's crazy. Happening right now, South Korea's president has just 18 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: declared their emergency martial law, saying the measure is necessary 19 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: to protect the country from the North's communist forces. All 20 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 4: media outlets are now under government control due. 21 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 3: To martial law. 22 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 4: In South Korea, stock markets started down this morning. 23 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on. It's interesting. 24 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: I have received a number of emails from people that 25 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: I consider. 26 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: To be. 27 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: Above average savvy on financial and economic matters. And they're 28 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: in a panic. And I must say I'm disappointed because 29 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: I assume, I guess I give people too much credit. 30 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: And to a man, their concern is Trump's tariffs, is 31 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: tariffs are going to tank the economy. TERFs are gonna 32 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: do this, this terror, terrors are gonna go terriffom And 33 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: I realize and that this is a This is an 34 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: unfortunate state to be in that many people base their 35 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: reaction of what's going on in the world based on 36 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: what is delivered to them in a news article. And 37 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: the problem with that, and this is not it's gonna 38 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: sound like I'm intending to insult, but I'm not. If 39 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 4: you've ever known a newsman personally. 40 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: You would be shocked. 41 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 4: At how little actual understanding these people have of the 42 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: news they are reporting, which varies from the effects of 43 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: interest rates on inflation, to geopolitical developments, hot spots, wars 44 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 4: beginning and ending, trade policies, and people don't understand the 45 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: tariff discussion. So let me explain it to you in 46 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: as simple as terms as I can. And there's always 47 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: going to be some jackass out there who feels the 48 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 4: need to tell me that they were once this or 49 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: that and how smart they are. Well, you can't have 50 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 4: that conversation with the general public, So you don't need 51 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: to send me an email because I don't know why 52 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: it bothers me so much. 53 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: But it does. It does well. 54 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 4: Of you left out that one time in seventy eight 55 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: when oil prices went high and inflation got real high, 56 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: and yeah, you're right, I did. So I'm going to 57 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: make this as simple as I can so everybody can 58 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: understand it in a way that the media is not 59 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: going to do. And there's a reason behind that. The 60 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: meet let me let me start with what they're going 61 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: to do. Media is going to say Trump tariffs are 62 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: going to hurt you. Okay, The three countries he has 63 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: threatened to slap with terrorifts on day one are Canada, China, 64 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 4: and I can't wait for him to be back president 65 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 4: and says say China all the time, and Mexico, Mexico, Canada, China. 66 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 4: And so people say they don't know why they've just 67 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: heard that tariffs are going to have an uncertainty makes 68 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: people uncomfortable. Well, let me ask you this. Let's let's 69 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: say we're not talking TIFFs. Let's say we're doing a 70 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: requirement that everybody in a portunicular country has to twirl 71 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 4: around three times. 72 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: Okay, well that's gonna be bad. 73 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: Why I don't know. I just reading an article, or 74 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 4: the headline was it's gonna be bad? Well, how does 75 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: everybody twirling around three times hurt us? I don't care 76 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 4: if it hurts the other country? Why has that hurt us? 77 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 78 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: They were just saying that that Trump's requirement that everybody's 79 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 4: spent around three times, people will get dizzy or some 80 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: mean I actually don't know. I don't know what it was. 81 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: They were just saying. The headline was. Twitter instituted a 82 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: thing a few years ago when people would forward an 83 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: article or repost an article, they said would you like 84 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: to read the article? And people got mad about it. 85 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: But the reason people get mad about it is because 86 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 4: they don't read the article. They see the headline and 87 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: based on the headline, which was written by design to 88 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: get reaction. That's the term clickbait. It was written to 89 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: get people interest and run of the meal data is 90 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: not fascinating, and people need that hit. They need that 91 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: hit of what's it called endorphins. They need the endorphins 92 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: of rage. Everybody's raged all the time. Have you seen 93 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: a president since we attacked Iraq, which, in the grand 94 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: scheme of things, a pretty tiny country considering how big 95 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: we are. Have you ever seen a president in your lifetime, 96 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: going back to Reagan and Star Wars, who had the 97 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: attention of world leaders the way Trump does. No, The 98 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: answer is no, you haven't. Without threatening to drop a 99 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 4: bomb or send our troops. On day one, Trump will 100 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: have already brought about more change by getting other people 101 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: to do what he wants them to do than any 102 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: president in twenty five years. And you have to take 103 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: George W. Bush out of that, because you had to 104 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: have a war, a physical military war to do that. 105 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: Trump's threat and he's brilliant at this. And I am 106 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: surprised how many sophisticated people, I know, very smart leaders 107 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 4: of companies have said to me, I'm worried, I'm worried, 108 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: what's going to happen? What's gonna happen? What would be 109 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 4: the fear? You're worried that China can't dump their product? 110 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: Do you think China is. 111 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: Not going to bend to his will when their biggest 112 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: market closes its doors? 113 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Just in here listening to Michael Berry. 114 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: I know this is a billy squire, but if I 115 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 4: were to submit a song that most sounds like led 116 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: Zeppelin that's not, that would. 117 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 3: Probably be it. 118 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: He's got a Robert Page vibe to him. So the 119 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 4: United States has allowed itself to become the butt of 120 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 4: jokes around the world, perhaps unspoken jokes, but policies. To 121 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 4: be sure, if we were to shut our market, our 122 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: consumer market to China tomorrow, but leaving aside how much 123 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 4: teeth gnashing people would do because they wouldn't be able 124 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: to get their cheap junk. If we were to do 125 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: that would crash China. It would cost suffering here. There's 126 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 4: no doubt about that. There are many inputs to our 127 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: manufacturing process, to the manufacturing. 128 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: We do do. 129 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: There are many retailers we have become, and this is 130 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: not all bad. We have become a nation that makes 131 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: fewer things and sells more things. You can still create 132 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: wealth in the churn. Our problem as a nation is 133 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: that we have grown comfortable with the comfort and convenience 134 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: of extremely cheap products. Other countries could make products far 135 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: cheaper than we could for many years, but they couldn't 136 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: invade the American economy because the cost of transportation was prohibitive. 137 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: Once the transportation conundrum was resolved, that changed everything. Now 138 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 4: Here is the dilemma that we have difficulty confronting. And 139 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: this is sort of like the household that takes on 140 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 4: credit card debt every month and then takes a credit 141 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: card to pay off a credit card, and then takes 142 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: another credit card to pay off the credit card that 143 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: it paid off. There's gonna come a day of reckoning, 144 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 4: and the day of reckoning is going to feel like 145 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 4: a horrible thing has happened, and how did this horrible 146 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: thing happen? Well, it's death by a thousand cuts. It 147 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: happened a little bit, but it's Look, if you've got 148 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: to lose one hundred pounds and you got to do 149 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: it in two days, nothing short of a massive surgery, 150 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: and I mean it's going to be traumatic. But if 151 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 4: you took three years to do it, you could do 152 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: minor calorie deprivation for three hundred and sixty five days 153 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 4: a year. Add in muscle training, add in drinking more water, and. 154 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: Cut out just a cut. 155 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: You could do it with minimal suffering over a long 156 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 4: period of time. But people don't want that, do they. 157 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 4: They want the immediate reaction. Our problem is that we 158 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 4: Americans are mostly we wear two hats or two sides 159 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 4: to this coin. One of them is the consumer and 160 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: we are not me. But Americans are extremely priced sensitive 161 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: to the extent that quality is almost of zero concern. 162 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: Quality is not something that people care about any longer. 163 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: And you can see it and they'll say they do, 164 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: but they don't. They want cheap, and in fact, they 165 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 4: don't just want cheap because they need cheap. Cheap has 166 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 4: become its own almost religion. 167 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: There is this brag factor. 168 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: There is an endorphin rush for people that they buy 169 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: something at a price that is far less than it 170 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 4: is being priced to other people. 171 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: You've got all these websites. 172 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: Now, you see it advertised on television, you see it 173 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: on the internet where they'll say I. 174 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: Got this cam run for four dollars and. 175 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 4: All you have to do is join this club or 176 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 4: follow this website. Well, it's unsustainable that you could buy 177 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: the camera at four dollars. 178 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: They did. 179 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: They sold one at four dollars so that they could 180 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 4: they could, They could say that, but it is the 181 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: pursuit of the deal so much so that people will buy. 182 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 4: I want to say the sh. 183 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: Word because it's so perfect. 184 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: At that point, people will buy crap that when you 185 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: say they don't need, they don't even really want, they may. 186 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: Never use, with the idea that it's cheap. 187 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 4: Well, in order to do that, you had to reduce 188 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:52,239 Speaker 4: the cost of every input, and the greatest input cost 189 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: for the last hundred years. Once we learned how to 190 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: extract rubber and how to tan leather, and how to 191 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: create synthetic fibers and synthetic composites, plastics, nylon, pleather, you 192 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: name it. Once that happened, it was only a matter 193 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: of time until the inputs. Because that now you can 194 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,239 Speaker 4: create clothing out of a workshop, out of a warehouse. 195 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: You no longer need to have livestock that you kill 196 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: and take their skin. So you start driving the cost 197 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: down of products, which had been happening for quite some time. 198 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: But the factor that could not be resolved was the 199 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: labor cost. 200 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: And you couldn't. 201 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: Resolve the labor cost with American labor. That's impossible. That's 202 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: simply not going to happen, and that's a next segment. 203 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: But you would have to have living conditions and pay 204 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 4: wages that we simply will not tolerate. 205 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: Here. 206 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: We literally make them illegal, so it's not going to 207 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: happen here, but people still do it. 208 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: Right, that's where. 209 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: The illegal alien issue comes in. But that's less a 210 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: function in manufactured products as it is housing, agriculture, domestic 211 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: those sorts of things, lawn care. So China created a 212 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 4: situation where their labor they were able to keep their 213 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: labor costs so low, and they solved the cost of goods, 214 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: and they solved the transportation, so now you could dump 215 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: these products here. And that's why we've got contained. We're 216 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 4: overwhelmed with containers. The American consumer wants the cheapest product ever, 217 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: and they don't care that it's not quality, it doesn't last, 218 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: it's not dependable. Right, it's not just a status thing 219 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 4: that don't care. But the American consumer is also a 220 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: wage earner, and the American wage earner demands the highest 221 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: possible wages. And so you've got this real dilemma because 222 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: those two cannot exist simultaneously. And that gutted American manufacturer. 223 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 4: It meant that we had to But let me say this, 224 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: because there's more to this story. That American labor is 225 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: being replaced by technology, which is our only opportunity to compete. 226 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show. 227 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: Trump number one way to have the world at his doorstep, 228 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 4: begging to do his bidding is to close off the 229 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 4: American marketplace to them. America's consumer, not our manufacturer. Our 230 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: consumer marketplace is by far the largest consumer marketplace. It 231 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 4: is the number one marketplace for goods for most countries 232 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 4: in the world. I'd have to pull the numbers, but 233 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: for most countries Japan, China, South Korea, Mexico, Canada. If 234 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: America were suddenly somehow obliterated and didn't exist, those countries 235 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 4: would be plunged into a deep depression. And so what 236 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 4: Trump is doing is this is what a sophisticated business owner, 237 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 4: a sophisticated negotiator does. You walk into a negotiation, you 238 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 4: punch the other guy in the nose, and you walk out. 239 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: Maybe leave your business. 240 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 4: Card, here's how you can reach me. 241 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: And if that. 242 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 4: Guy wants to do business with you, you've just told 243 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: him or we're not playing around any longer. Okay, I 244 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: am putting on the table that which I'm going to do. 245 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: Trump's greatest asset. And this wouldn't be a functioning democratic 246 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: republic if this happened. But Trump's greatest asset in a 247 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: purely strategic manner would be him threatening tariffs on China, Canada, 248 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 4: Mexico and everybody else for that matter, and America cheering 249 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: saying good, keep that foreign garbage out of here, and 250 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 4: a good stoking of xenophobia. We don't want Swiss cheese, 251 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: Italian tomatoes, French wines, we don't want any of it. 252 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 4: If that were to happen, it would set off a 253 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: worldwide panic from which we would also not be immune 254 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: in the short term. So what people are going to 255 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: focus on, because this is a ploy he is enacting 256 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 4: to get these people to do what he wants to 257 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: get immediate See, he's got to bend other countries to 258 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 4: his will, and the only way he can do that 259 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 4: is not through diplomacy. 260 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 3: It's not through asking nicely. 261 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 4: They don't have an interest in helping him succeed, in fact, 262 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: quite the opposite, and so for him to do that, 263 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: he has to do that against their will. And the 264 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: best example I can give you of that was in 265 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen when he's running for president. Jeff Zucker was 266 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: then the head of CNN, and CNN had done a 267 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 4: medical report something they thought was really important on some 268 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 4: medical condition. This is how it's being try. It doesn't 269 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 4: matter it didn't air. It's the point of the story. 270 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 4: And that story was on prime time. They had worked 271 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: on it for six months, eight months, and it had 272 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 4: been promoted, and in their mind they had built an 273 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: audience for something that was very meaningful. 274 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: That's their art, that's you know, the people involved with this. Heck, 275 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 3: I take our show seriously. 276 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 4: Can you imagine you've been You've done all your interviews, 277 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: you've had your production, you put it together, you screened out. 278 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: Here we go. 279 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 4: This is at our hot That's going to be a meaningful, 280 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: substantive story, hour long special. And Zucker called in and said, 281 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 4: flip to Trump. He's given a speech and they had 282 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: a walkout. See if you do that, you're gonna have 283 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 4: a walkout if everybody's involved in this program, I don't care. 284 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 4: Flip to Trump and what Zucker did. Zucker was an 285 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: old friend of his. I believe Zucker had been at 286 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 4: NBC before that, but I know they had a background 287 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 4: together in television. And remember Trump was the executive producer 288 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 4: of the top show on television, without previously having spent 289 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: a day in television writing production, marketing. He has instincts 290 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: that are unparalleled, and those instincts are better in some 291 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 4: cases in people's field of practice that they have spent 292 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 4: an entire career on. He's never you know, people get 293 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: angry at him over the things he says, and he 294 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: doesn't have consultants around him because we we have credentialism issues. 295 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: We need people who've you. 296 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: Know, we need Lee Atwater to be there. 297 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: What George hw Bush needed Lee Atwater? 298 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: Trump doesn't. We need Carl Rove to be there. What 299 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: George W. Bush needed Carl Rove Trump doesn't. Trump has 300 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 4: a gut. It's not one hundred percent, but nobody is. 301 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 4: It's so much better than the conventional wisdom of the 302 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: people who are all in an echo chamber. Most industries 303 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 4: fail to ever grow because they never bring in any 304 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 4: outside expertise and they never think beyond this is how 305 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: things have always been done, and this is how they 306 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 4: always will be done. American car manufacturers should be ashamed 307 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 4: of themselves that this upstart South African created full self 308 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: driving right under their noses. I think that Tesla truck, 309 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: that Chance has, that cyber truck, I think it's hideous. 310 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: It leads me almost to depression. I imagine I'm reading 311 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 4: What's the Kafka's the opening of Kafka's The Metamorphosis. They 312 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: think that the cyber truck is space age, but to me, 313 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 4: it looks like what you would drive, what the Soviets 314 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 4: would come in on in the mid fifties and. 315 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 3: Hungary, but full self driving. 316 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 4: How did American car makers not do that because they 317 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: all did exactly the same that they had always done the. 318 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: Michael Berry Show. 319 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: Mean, are you submitting this as a song that starts 320 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 4: wrong and goes we Jim? 321 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 3: Did you disagree? Never really got into Jethro Tall. 322 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: I listened because I felt like I was supposed to, 323 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: because it was the sort of thing that you know, 324 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 4: you should know certain things and and this is you know, 325 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: and Jethro tell has has that sort of reputation. But 326 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: I never listened and thought, wow, that's good, partly because 327 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 4: that particular song is kind of disjointed, right, it's it's uh, 328 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 4: it's frenetic, it never gets a. 329 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 3: I never really yet. 330 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 4: I think you have to have a little bit of 331 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 4: a jangled mind to really enjoy that. I can't believe 332 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: y'all nobody has brought this story to my attention, not 333 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: one person. And I don't know if y'all just don't 334 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 4: know or you don't care. But this is a crazy headline. 335 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 4: Why not a judge? Why not? 336 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: A judge's daughter? 337 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 4: Grace Kelly arrested for allegedly stealing church van from pastor's home. 338 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 4: Now you have to say allegedly because it hasn't been 339 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: adjudicated yet, but this is kind of one. 340 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: Of those Was she in. 341 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 4: The church van? 342 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: Yes? Is she why on a judge's daughter? 343 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 4: Yes? Does the pastor say he didn't give her the 344 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 4: keys and tell her to take it? Yes? This is 345 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: not one of those where you think, well, we have 346 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: to wait and see what happened. 347 00:26:59,680 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: There. 348 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 4: There are so many different ways this story could go. 349 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: Whyonah Judd's daughter, Grace Kelly arrested for allegedly stealing church 350 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: van from pastors home. So first of all, you start 351 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 4: with Wyonah and that immediately so you anytime you hear 352 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 4: Whyona Judd, your brain automatically does what my brain does. 353 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: You go, Okay, is she the hot one that was 354 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: crazy that stole somef from the grocery store? No? No, 355 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 4: she's part of the mother daughter team. Wait a second, 356 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 4: if I remember correctly. The mother was one hundred years 357 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 4: old and fine as frog's hair, and the daughter was 358 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 4: big and obviously, you know, sixteen years younger, and that 359 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: always made it kind of weird. 360 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: You know. 361 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: The mom was she Naomi? What was her name? The mom? 362 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 4: In addition to being smoking hot forever, she ended up 363 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: getting with a bunch of do you know the whole 364 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 4: story behind now? She ended up getting with I can't remember, huh. 365 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 4: I can't remember who it was, but it was a like, 366 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a list of the kind of guys, 367 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 4: and out of this. 368 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: List, she was probably with three, okay. 369 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: Jerry Reid, Glenn Campbell, Elvis uh, Charlton Heston, Steve McQueen, who. 370 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 3: Isaac. 371 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: I don't think she went into that yet. That wasn't 372 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 4: it the whole black bad boy thing for hot white 373 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: women that started about the Jimmy Hendrix era that that 374 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 4: didn't happen so much before that? 375 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: Why? 376 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 4: NOA just so your immediate thought is, okay, which first 377 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: before I can process this story? Which one's? Whyona? Okay, 378 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: She's not the one that stole from the grocery store. 379 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: She's part of the duet that wanted their Grandpa to 380 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: sing to them or tell stories, and so she's the one. 381 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: She's the big one. Okay, all right, Well that had 382 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 4: to be hard because you it's like the first time 383 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 4: you meet somebody that's got a funny name and you 384 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 4: make a joke about it and then you're thinking what 385 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: they're thinking? 386 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: But why I never heard that one before? 387 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 4: You know that you're the ones like, hey, I know 388 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: this is weird, but like it was just crazy, but 389 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 4: I'm actually more into your mom. 390 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah we know. 391 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 4: Okay, everybody knows whin Ona Judge's daughter, Grace Kelly arrested 392 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: for allegedly stealing church van from pastors home. Then that 393 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 4: brings up the question of all the things you can steal, 394 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 4: why would you steal the church van? Third time's a charm. 395 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: Winona Judge's daughter was arrested again, and this time for 396 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: allegedly stealing a Charlottesville church's van. The New York Post 397 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: has confirmed Grace Kelly, twenty eight, was taken into custody 398 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 4: in Virginia on Sunday, October twenty seventh, and faces seven charges, 399 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: including three counts of felony, grand larceny, driving without a license, 400 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 4: destruction of property with intent, failure to use headlights, and 401 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: setting in motion a vehicle with intent to commit a crime, 402 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: per the County Police Department. The police spokesman told the 403 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 4: Post that Kelly is still in lock up at the 404 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 4: Charlottesville Regional Jail. 405 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: Oh, you got to tell people what you did. That's 406 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: a worse. 407 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 4: What are you in here for? I shot a man 408 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: in Reno? How come just to watch him die? That's 409 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: pretty cool? 410 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: What about you? I stole a van? 411 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: What kind of van? 412 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: A church van? 413 00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Ooh? 414 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: You still on that side of lightning strikes from where 415 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 4: pastor's house. The Daily Progress was the first report that 416 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 4: Judge's daughter was arrested after allegedly stealing Ground Zero Church 417 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 4: of the Nazarene Church's van. The church later confirmed the 418 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: news on a go fundme page. Yes, because anytime anything happens, 419 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 4: the first thing we need to do is set up 420 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 4: a GoFundMe page. 421 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: Our Green Church. Oh this is a hideous van. 422 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, our Green church van and trailer were 423 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 4: stolen from in front of our pastor's home by Grace 424 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: Pauline Kelly. Grace is currently in police custody. A churchgoer 425 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 4: who outlined the vehicle and trailer were taken on October 426 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 4: twenty seventh. Stated on the fundraising page via a statement 427 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: from pastor Kent Hart, the church has set the donation 428 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 4: goal to thirty thousand dollars, stating the van was declared 429 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: to write off after the incident. He's figuring, you know what, 430 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: we might as well use this occasion in all the 431 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 4: publicity we're getting. See if we can't get us a 432 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 4: nice new van for me to cut around in. I 433 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 4: want to know why the church van is at the 434 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 4: pastor's house. I'm wondering if the church van just also 435 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: happens to be how the pastor goes to the grocery 436 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 4: store and buys groceries. The van was damaged during the theft, 437 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: and after being inspected by a body shop, the insurance 438 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 4: has determined it to be a total loss. The van 439 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 4: was only valued at thirty eight hundred dollars, and after 440 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: the body shop fees and deductible we are only left 441 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 4: with about twenty two hundred dollars. We are a small 442 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 4: church and cannot afford to buy another van in the 443 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 4: current market, So if y'all could give us thirty thousand 444 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 4: dollars to replace our three thousand dollars van. 445 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: How does that work? Ooh, I said the most hideous 446 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: who would look at that van and think I'd like 447 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: to steal that van?