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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the solid Verbal. Boys and girls, my
Speaker 1: name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always from over
Speaker 1: there in New York City. My good friend Dan Rubinstein,
Speaker 1: Sir how are you?
Speaker 2: Life is grand, Tye, life is wonderful. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I am doing well. What are we doing tonight? Why
Speaker 1: do we both have this like shot of life in
Speaker 1: us tonight?
Speaker 2: Oh, narcotics. I have agreed sure to heavily invest in enthusiasm. No,
Speaker 2: it is the beginning of our season preview series. We
Speaker 2: are starting earlier because we are doing more of them.
Speaker 2: We assume because people are listening to a college football show.
Speaker 2: To maximize the amount of college football would be a
Speaker 2: wise thing. So we are. We're quite excited. We are
Speaker 2: going to do divisional previews, but we're gonna hop around
Speaker 2: so tonight. As you know, because you've downloaded the episode
Speaker 2: and you've seen the title and you're an enthusiastic listener
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Speaker 2: discretionary income, purchased a shirt to help support the show.
Speaker 2: We are doing the ac C Atlantic Atlantic.
Speaker 1: They listen, pause for a second. Can we invent some
Speaker 1: sort of mnemonic device? Yeah, to help us keep the
Speaker 1: two divisions of the ACC Street.
Speaker 2: I would say just ACC Fatlantic because they're fat with
Speaker 2: talent with Clemson and Florida State Fatlantic. The Fatlantic. They're
Speaker 2: they're obese with blue chips, Fatlantic, Fatlantic. Don't. That's as
Speaker 2: good as I can do off the cuff tie. This
Speaker 2: is not my thing, but this is the good news.
Speaker 2: We are not restricting ourselves to just the ACC Fatlantic.
Speaker 2: We are also doing the American West, which coincidentally features
Speaker 2: no teams.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, now it's in the American West.
Speaker 1: So we've got the AAC West ACC Fatlantic, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then the AAC West.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: We all starts of confusion going on here this evening.
Speaker 2: I don't have a device for that other than Ed
Speaker 2: Oliver is here for precisely four more months, and we
Speaker 2: should celebrate that division because he is in it.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you for stopping on by. We're
Speaker 1: gonna try throughout the course of this show. At least
Speaker 1: I am to try and come up with a better
Speaker 1: nomonic device than Fatlantic. Although that I that is not bad. Dan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would eat in look Syracuse. You can
Speaker 2: eat well, tallahassee no comment. Louisville, you can certainly eat well.
Speaker 2: Check out ed Lee Boston College. You can eat super
Speaker 2: well in the North end of Boston. Uh, wake Forest, Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course you can Winston Salem. You can eat well
Speaker 2: Raleigh Jody with and I going there later this week
Speaker 2: for work, and I've already looked up places she can eat.
Speaker 2: Looks great. I don't Clemson eatings specifically, but you're close
Speaker 2: enough you want to go to Spartanburg or Dan.
Speaker 1: We're talking about We're talking about football here, We're not
Speaker 1: talking about food.
Speaker 2: Come on, I get wound up. I'm sorry, get yourself
Speaker 2: together here. It's you see what I did there as
Speaker 2: I just went through the Fatlantic so everybody can keep
Speaker 2: which teams are in which which division straight.
Speaker 1: The more we use it, the more it's actually going
Speaker 1: to work. You know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh absolutely, it's going to work.
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Speaker 1: From Yeah we did. We did last time, very very
Speaker 1: famished after our live show in Atlanta, Okaya. With all
Speaker 1: that out of the way, let's talk about the a
Speaker 1: CC Fat Atlantic, Daniel Fatlantic. We're also trying something new.
Speaker 1: We're not just previewing divisions this time around. We also
Speaker 1: looked at this very realistically. Okay, you and I were
Speaker 1: both married, we're both in our in our thirties. I
Speaker 1: suspect a lot of other folks listening around the country
Speaker 1: and world are in a very similar position. The lead
Speaker 1: Busy lives right. The question is, if you're a big
Speaker 1: ten fan, why the hell should you care about the
Speaker 1: ACC FA Atlantic? Why should Why should you care?
Speaker 2: Right, it's a good question.
Speaker 1: We kick that around World Cup style, you know, we
Speaker 1: raced to the corner. We kind of kicked it around
Speaker 1: and before kicking it out of bounds to waste a
Speaker 1: little more time, we said, yeah, we kind of like
Speaker 1: that theme. Dan, Why should you care? Is what we're
Speaker 1: going for here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, odds are if you're listening to this show, you
Speaker 2: are not an ACC Atlantic fan because there's so much
Speaker 2: beyond the ACC Atlantic. But we are here to let
Speaker 2: you know that college football is an excellent TV show
Speaker 2: and it just has a ton of characters that are
Speaker 2: worth diving into their backstory. So that's why we are
Speaker 2: trying to figure out essentially the care factor for the
Speaker 2: ACC Atlantic and for individual teams and storylines. And we
Speaker 2: will do the same for the American the American Athletic Conference,
Speaker 2: just the American West tig.
Speaker 1: That's right on that note, Let's talk about your A
Speaker 1: C C Atlantic and let's start at the very top
Speaker 1: with the Clemson Tigers. Dan, they went eleven to one
Speaker 1: last year in the regular season, they won the ACC,
Speaker 1: they qualified for the playoff. Couldn't move the ball against
Speaker 1: Alabama in the first round of the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 1: They lost twenty four to six if memory serves, and
Speaker 1: their season finished up at twelve and two. All things
Speaker 1: being equal, that's pretty damn good year, is it not.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's excellence. It's another year of Clemson excellence. And
Speaker 2: on top of everything, it is worth noting that they're
Speaker 2: attrition aside from quarterback, you know, losing Hunter Johnson Northwestern,
Speaker 2: but the attrition within the program, coaches, support staff has
Speaker 2: been so minimal and it has to be considered a
Speaker 2: huge factor in not just attracting talent, but as we've
Speaker 2: seen with this defensive line, keeping talent comfortable.
Speaker 1: They're like the Western Conference of the NBA. But yeah,
Speaker 1: all on one team.
Speaker 2: Basically, what's worth caring about with Clemson is on the surface,
Speaker 2: it's pretty obvious they're stacked everywhere. It's defensive line porn.
Speaker 2: You know, we have Trevor Lawrence coming in as a
Speaker 2: true freshman and everybody raving about his ceiling. I think
Speaker 2: justifiably so inasmuch as we can determine in an off
Speaker 2: season without actual live football, but clearly there is there
Speaker 2: is some nugget of potential that is pretty tantalizing with
Speaker 2: him and Kelly Bryant certainly had a pretty terrific year
Speaker 2: for a first year quarterback, gets beat up, struggles mightily
Speaker 2: against Alabama, which leads to this sort of window for
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, the incoming or he's already there, the five
Speaker 2: star true freshman quarterback. They have that fun early road test,
Speaker 2: going to Kyle Field to play texts A and M.
Speaker 2: And if that all doesn't excite you, you always will
Speaker 2: have Florida State Clemson to look forward to. And this
Speaker 2: will be This Florida State Clemson game will be the
Speaker 2: first and it's in Tallahassee. It's a week after NC
Speaker 2: State measuring stick for Willy Taggart. It's not a measuring
Speaker 2: stick anymore at this point with what Conson has accomplished
Speaker 2: for the Tigers, but for Florida State, this is the
Speaker 2: first big Willy Taggart Power five moment. Consider the injuries
Speaker 2: he had last year at Oregon and this is not
Speaker 2: his team. And we'll get to Florida State momentarily, but
Speaker 2: there's a ton to care about and I will turn
Speaker 2: it over to you Ty. With this schedule, which is tricky.
Speaker 2: At A and M, they go to Georgia Tech to
Speaker 2: Florida State. They have an NC State team with a
Speaker 2: really good quarterback. Do you think if the quarterback is
Speaker 2: merely pretty good, which I think is a pretty high
Speaker 2: floor for Clemson, is that good enough to get to
Speaker 2: the playoff without great quarterback play.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, this is a better team than last year. And
Speaker 1: that's saying something. We just went through the full gamut
Speaker 1: of how they went twelve and two. They've got most
Speaker 1: of their team back, especially on defense, and you mentioned
Speaker 1: Kelly Bryant. He got them there last year. But yet
Speaker 1: I went I posted a picture last night on the
Speaker 1: Instagram account. I picked up Phil Steele's magazine, right, you
Speaker 1: remember Phil Steele, the Real Steele Dossier of college football.
Speaker 1: He's got true freshman Trevor Lawrence as his projected starter.
Speaker 1: I am fascinated because it's not just the Phil Steele
Speaker 1: magazine where I've seen this. I've seen this in a
Speaker 1: bunch of places, just outwardly projecting Trevor Lawrence probably going
Speaker 1: to be starting quarterback at some point before the end
Speaker 1: of the season. It's almost as if nobody wants Kelly
Speaker 1: Bryant to be the starting quarterback, and yet he had
Speaker 1: a pretty good year. He did stumble a bit down
Speaker 1: the stretch, but again, a pretty good season got Clemson
Speaker 1: to the College Football Playoff. He clearly did something right,
Speaker 1: yet no one seems to want to give him the
Speaker 1: nod here and that interests me. That makes me very interesting.
Speaker 1: I care a little bit more about Clemson because there's
Speaker 1: a guy who got him to incredible heights last year
Speaker 1: and yet no one's giving him benefit of the doubts.
Speaker 1: So better team than last year. That's one reason to care.
Speaker 1: Second reason to care is the whole Kelly Bryant thing,
Speaker 1: which I find terribly fascinating. And then the third for
Speaker 1: me is the defensive line porn which you reference earlier.
Speaker 1: We'll play that again. Cleveland Farrell, who we mentioned in
Speaker 1: an earlier podcast episode, and Austin Bryant, both of them
Speaker 1: manning their respective side of the defensive line, and then
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence and Christian will Bans back in the middle
Speaker 1: to sort of firm up the CD underbelly of what
Speaker 1: is clearly the best defensive line in the country. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of reason they're to be very excited
Speaker 1: about Clemson. And oh, by the way, Dan, the schedule
Speaker 1: does not scare me at all. It just it. This
Speaker 1: is why my answer maybe was off hand to your
Speaker 1: question of, well, if they get respectable quarterback plays, it
Speaker 1: enough to get them back to where they were. The
Speaker 1: early game against A and M will probably tell us
Speaker 1: more about A and M than Clemson. I'm just not
Speaker 1: worried about that game at all. The two games that
Speaker 1: I think you watch. You mentioned the Florida State one.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, it probably says more about Florida
Speaker 1: State than it does Clemson. But it is on the road.
Speaker 1: It is Halloween weekend in Tallahassee. The road team in
Speaker 1: that series is just three and thirteen since two thousand
Speaker 1: and two, for whatever that's worth. The other one is
Speaker 1: at Boston College on November tenth. Clemson's slipped walked, slipped
Speaker 1: walked the last time they went to Chestnut Hill, and
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting matchup because Boston College is
Speaker 1: maybe the best offensive line in the conference, Clemson the
Speaker 1: defensive line in the conference. But otherwise it sets up
Speaker 1: perfectly for Clemson again in twenty eighteen. They've got so
Speaker 1: much working for them, and they are, quite frankly, a
Speaker 1: lot of reasons to care.
Speaker 2: So interestingly, I think Trevor Lawrence is in a similar situation,
Speaker 2: maybe as JT. Daniels like. He may not start right away,
Speaker 2: but by I don't know, wake in early October could
Speaker 2: be starting and playing different series. If he is starting
Speaker 2: at texts A and M, that becomes trickier to me.
Speaker 2: That is still a tough place to play. Nobody really
Speaker 2: knows what this text A and M defense is going
Speaker 2: to look like. Immediately with Mike Elko, the offense is
Speaker 2: going to look different. So there's a mystery factor with
Speaker 2: a new true freshman quarterback that is a little bit worrisome.
Speaker 2: Trip up point going not going too but hosting NC State,
Speaker 2: and then the thing I would have circled, and this
Speaker 2: is not we're not unretiring anything, but in terms of
Speaker 2: trip up, losing at Syracuse, losing two pit the past
Speaker 2: couple of years, teams Clemson probably shouldn't lose to teams
Speaker 2: that you know Pitt was fine. Certainly a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago they were. They were pretty good with James Connor.
Speaker 2: I would circle going to Chestnut Hill. As you mentioned,
Speaker 2: that's it's November ten. I don't listen. Clemson's favorite. They
Speaker 2: should be favored, they should win but in terms of
Speaker 2: trip up, you have NC State at Florida State Louisville,
Speaker 2: which could be a shootouty type team. We'll get to
Speaker 2: them before traveling to Boston. It'll be cold November tenth.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. We could go to Boston
Speaker 1: College next.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Boston College.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Boston College next.
Speaker 2: That's the trip up point because they have South Carolina
Speaker 2: at home a week after Duke and so everything is
Speaker 2: it's a little even though we like South Carolina, we'll
Speaker 2: get to that whenever it is that we do the
Speaker 2: SEC East. That is my pick for a trip up.
Speaker 1: See. I almost feel more confident in that Boston College
Speaker 1: game as a trip up point than I do Florida State.
Speaker 2: And I know that they're gonna take Florida's say very seriously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that might defy logic, but again, last
Speaker 1: time they were in Chestnut Hill, Clemson had some issues.
Speaker 1: They ended up blowing them out, but had some issues
Speaker 1: in that game. There is reason to be optimistic about
Speaker 1: Boston College this year, and it wouldn't be the first
Speaker 1: time that they took a team like Clemson too the wire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they were just sort of ahead
Speaker 2: by twenty one or something and took their foot off
Speaker 2: the gas in Boston College score. You know it wasn't
Speaker 2: there was no there was no fear. I don't think
Speaker 2: from Clemson they're actually to lose that game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so we got we got reason to be
Speaker 1: very excited and care about Clemson. We agree, We absolutely agree.
Speaker 1: I think they're poised for another run, not just the
Speaker 1: ACC Fatlantic, not just the ACC Conference, but certainly look
Speaker 1: a top five finish in the polls, probably a playoff
Speaker 1: Berth if all goes according to the plan. Is a
Speaker 1: very exciting season for the Tigers that we've got a foot.
Speaker 1: Just on a personal level, I'm very excited to see
Speaker 1: t Higgins and what he looks like out at wide receiver,
Speaker 1: big target. If he gets more targets, let's see what
Speaker 1: he can do. He averaged over twenty yards per catch
Speaker 1: last year. Just throwing that out there.
Speaker 2: I do have a good nickname for Hunter renfro Oh,
Speaker 2: and that nickname is still there. Touchdown, still there.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to Boston College as promised.
Speaker 2: Can you give me a Clemson record regular season record
Speaker 2: like before, a potential a SEC.
Speaker 1: Championship, they're going undefeated.
Speaker 2: Oh, I have him ten and two.
Speaker 1: They're going undefeated this year.
Speaker 2: Yep, okay, just agree two losses. Wow, yep, I have
Speaker 2: a trip up and either South Carolina, Texas A and
Speaker 2: m Florida State.
Speaker 1: Go to Boston College. It went seven to five a
Speaker 1: year ago. How is it that Boston College has the
Speaker 1: same team every year? Have we thought about this at all?
Speaker 2: Just a defense populated with eleven Harold landries every year.
Speaker 1: It's like I was thinking about it a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, when you buy the new version of Madden
Speaker 1: and like, oh, maybe it'll be this different this year. Nope,
Speaker 1: not really. Kind of the same thing every year you
Speaker 1: turn off the passing cone. Yep, same thing every year.
Speaker 1: Boston College, to me, could be a five and seven team.
Speaker 1: They could be a seven and five team. M hm,
Speaker 1: depending on how things break. That being said, they might
Speaker 1: be the most interesting team in the ACC all year.
Speaker 2: Are you saying that because they play a pat League
Speaker 2: team week two? Just have an extra little spice, like
Speaker 2: seasoning little spice on them. Yeah, they play Holy Cross.
Speaker 1: It is a little bit of pezaz for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, walk me through the variables between five and
Speaker 2: seven and eight and four.
Speaker 1: Well, so the offense last year was lousy but outside
Speaker 1: but still better. Yeah, outside AJ Dillon, the offense was
Speaker 1: lousy but still on the whole better than it was
Speaker 1: the year prior in twenty sixteen. And so this year
Speaker 1: they bring back ten starters, including their entire offensive line
Speaker 1: and AJ Dillon who rushed for sixteen hundred yards and
Speaker 1: fourteen touchdowns. They really truly should be better than they
Speaker 1: were a year ago. The X factor, of course, being
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown a quarterback. If he can stay healthy, if
Speaker 1: he can be a little bit more productive, it's easier
Speaker 1: to buy into some of the thinking that Boston College
Speaker 1: is not only going to be a seven win maybe
Speaker 1: an eight win team, but also that they could trap
Speaker 1: a team like Clemson. That makes it easier to buy into. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they'll be fine because they're always fine on defense, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's just what they do. They've got a good
Speaker 1: defense every year, seemingly with one bona fide star this year,
Speaker 1: you're dood alert is going to be Zach your defensive end.
Speaker 2: So nice to hear that, sound, ty, thank you, You're
Speaker 2: very welcome.
Speaker 1: He might be the only non Clemson defensive lineman to
Speaker 1: achieve true accolades, a true spotlight because he is so
Speaker 1: damn good Zach Allen along the defensive line, defensive end,
Speaker 1: and I'm also interested. I think the big X factor,
Speaker 1: the big variable for them is the second half of
Speaker 1: the schedule because it's downright brutal. They've got a stretch
Speaker 1: where they've got Miami at home, they go on the
Speaker 1: road to Virginia Tech, Clemson at home, and then on
Speaker 1: the road against Florida State. M hmm. There's a lot
Speaker 1: going on here for Boston College, a lot of reason
Speaker 1: to be I think somewhat caring about this season. Where
Speaker 1: do you stand?
Speaker 2: So they could start, they could be ranked by mid October.
Speaker 2: So it's UMass holy Cross at Wake, at Purdue, Temple,
Speaker 2: at NC State, and then Louisville. They beat Louisville. Last year.
Speaker 2: AJ Dillon runs wild. They lose by three, a low
Speaker 2: scoring game against end State Temple. I'm not super high
Speaker 2: on Purdue can be run all over with a new
Speaker 2: defense early on with AJ Dillon. Wake has a new
Speaker 2: look defense and loses a bunch up front. And not
Speaker 2: worried about you Mass holy Cross. So starting five and one,
Speaker 2: six in one, if everything breaks right, in close games
Speaker 2: is kind of not crazy with a solid defense, a
Speaker 2: really good running game, and unfortunately a quarterback if you
Speaker 2: only watched the Florida State game last year, quarterback needs
Speaker 2: some work. That's the sort of big X factor at
Speaker 2: this point. And you were right to sort of mention
Speaker 2: the brutal back half of the season with Miami, Virginia Tech, Cleans,
Speaker 2: and FSU before getting which should be a nice and
Speaker 2: soft Syracuse defense late. I actually don't mind Syracuse defensive line.
Speaker 2: We'll get there. But I think Boston College, if nothing else,
Speaker 2: why you should care is because they were putrid. Wake
Speaker 2: Forest was putrid. And as we look at the ACC
Speaker 2: as a whole right now, and I did some of
Speaker 2: this with the d analytics stuff and the points per
Speaker 2: drive differential, whatever the case, the bottom of the ACC
Speaker 2: is sort of garbage free. If we believe in North Carolina,
Speaker 2: which we will eventually get to improving to at least
Speaker 2: below average the bottom of the ACC, and Boston College
Speaker 2: is squarely in the middle of the ACC. It's a
Speaker 2: nice situation. It's a competitive conference, ty, That's what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to tell you right now. And the fact that
Speaker 2: Boston College is a big reason for making that jump
Speaker 2: and making it a competitive conference, perhaps the most competitive
Speaker 2: in the widest middle class of any conference is a
Speaker 2: cool story that Steve Adazio has incrementally found the dudes
Speaker 2: to get things like, there's nothing worse than rooting for
Speaker 2: a team. Trust, I've rooted for a Brady hook defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've done this.
Speaker 2: This is something I've invested in that. And you can
Speaker 2: be down on a number of factors about Boston College
Speaker 2: just in terms of talent level and sealing whatever. This
Speaker 2: is a competitive team and that's a great reason to
Speaker 2: care that college football can afford us improvement, so that
Speaker 2: if you are a fan of a team that has
Speaker 2: disappointed you for a number of years, that there is hope. Tie.
Speaker 2: And that's that's what's really cool about Boston College. They're
Speaker 2: solid everywhere, they're not great anywhere specifically, and that'll make
Speaker 2: for a fun season and they're going to scare the
Speaker 2: living crap out of Clemson. Tie. I am ian.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're so, okay, let's build on that. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a potential scare in the ACC
Speaker 1: for Atlantic as we're now calling it, Yes, in November,
Speaker 1: Boston College is a team you should care about because
Speaker 1: not only do they have Clemson, as we discuss, but
Speaker 1: they also have a road game at Florida State. Now,
Speaker 1: we talked a lot in recent weeks about this game
Speaker 1: in Tallahassee on November the seventeenth, specifically whether or not
Speaker 1: it's a it's a trap game right for Florida State.
Speaker 2: Sure, letdown.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I if I really see it,
Speaker 1: if I really feel it into my core, but I
Speaker 1: am starting to talk myself into it. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: talk myself into it just by by sheer nature of
Speaker 1: it being a let down. Look ahead, Sandwich, you got Dunstan.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Oh, Boston College it for sure, they
Speaker 1: get Florida State a week after the Knowles go to
Speaker 1: Notre Dame in a week before Florida comes to.
Speaker 2: Talent correct is new coaches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly a rivalry in the state of Florida. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: in between Boston College, they're going to be physical, they're
Speaker 1: going to run with AJ Dillon, They're going to play defense. Sorry,
Speaker 1: and a sort of talk myself into this a little
Speaker 1: bit here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Florida State is not where they were in
Speaker 2: terms of the stacked experienced talent where they were four
Speaker 2: or five years ago. On defense, they're replacing all of
Speaker 2: their linebackers. Up front, They've got really good pass rushers.
Speaker 2: I really like their starting defensive tackles. But in terms
Speaker 2: of what they're rotating in and out, they might be
Speaker 2: able to be run on a week after Notre Dame
Speaker 2: and should we should.
Speaker 1: We just move on over to Florida State.
Speaker 2: Here, let's go, let's go to Florida State. Give me
Speaker 2: your final record prediction, which nobody's gonna hold you to account.
Speaker 1: College six and six.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go seven and five.
Speaker 1: It's somewhere in that five to seven win cone there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they feel like the Ron Swanson of the Fatlantic.
Speaker 1: Just sturdy, very sturdy. Okay, let's go to Let's go
Speaker 1: to Florida State. Florida State in transition, to say the least,
Speaker 1: they went six and six a year ago.
Speaker 2: Dan.
Speaker 1: Now they bring on Willie Taggart, remember their dream job scenario.
Speaker 1: Perhaps I would like to be the first to coin
Speaker 1: the term the baby Knoles because they've got about three
Speaker 1: seniors in their entire projected lineup. I think that bodes
Speaker 1: very well for Willy Taggert year two. But what it
Speaker 1: means in Willy Taggert year one remains to be seen. Sure,
Speaker 1: So Daniel, I will ask you, tell me why should
Speaker 1: we care about Florida State? Give me some reasons.
Speaker 2: Cam Akers is the place for me. Cam Akers ran
Speaker 2: behind a not that good offensive line last year, and
Speaker 2: there's no reason to believe. I know, you know they're
Speaker 2: gonna be healthier, but there's no reasonably it'll be dramatically
Speaker 2: better other than the fact that, you know, maybe they'll
Speaker 2: play a little bit faster. So that's sort of that
Speaker 2: mystery invisible sixth offensive lineman on the field. Tempo, So
Speaker 2: Temple should Tempo not Temple. I hope Temple doesn't help
Speaker 2: Florida State. Tempo should help cam Akers as he gets
Speaker 2: bigger and faster and more experienced. We saw the success
Speaker 2: Royce Freeman had last year in this Willy Taggart offense.
Speaker 2: The year before that, Marlon mack At was a force
Speaker 2: to be reckoned with. So just if there is a
Speaker 2: single reason, it is that cam Akers can win the
Speaker 2: Heisman with the talent and if they have any sort
Speaker 2: of semblance of a passing game. Whoever wins that quarterback job,
Speaker 2: he will be put in a good position. You know,
Speaker 2: this is the Willy Taggert dream job. As you said, Ty,
Speaker 2: anytime you can compare a new coach to Randy Edsel's
Speaker 2: situation at Maryland, I think you have to do it
Speaker 2: and absolute mind ourselves with Willy Taggart. And I would
Speaker 2: add just because this is something we don't see all
Speaker 2: that often. There have been I think four teams to
Speaker 2: win a national championship since twenty eleven, Alabama, Clemson, Florida State,
Speaker 2: and Ohio State unless I'm missing somebody, And so a
Speaker 2: team on that level as Florida State is, with the
Speaker 2: ability to bring in a ton of talent, should be
Speaker 2: winning double digit games every year. They are a blue
Speaker 2: blood in college football. We don't get to see a
Speaker 2: reboot like we're seeing at Florida State all that often,
Speaker 2: and that to me is a little bit fascinating. And
Speaker 2: even if you're a Washington fan, even if you're a
Speaker 2: San Diego State fan, even if you're a Texas Tech fan,
Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting to see what Florida State does
Speaker 2: when they have this full reboot period for the second
Speaker 2: time in about a decade, which is kind of crazy
Speaker 2: for a blue blood.
Speaker 1: But here we are I you know, I think I
Speaker 1: kind of agree with you. I think of when the
Speaker 1: Yankees decided to blow it up a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: two years ago now, it ended up yielding fruit sooner
Speaker 1: than they thought. In the Yankees case, we're not a
Speaker 1: baseball show here.
Speaker 2: But I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 1: Could that could that ultimately be the same kind of
Speaker 1: thing for Florida State this season. Now, Lord knows, they've
Speaker 1: got plenty of talent. They're loaded still on defense and
Speaker 1: really all across the field. Here. What will be the
Speaker 1: limiting factor for Florida State will be the schedule. Will
Speaker 1: be the schedule. First game of the year against Virginia
Speaker 1: Tech at home. That's a pretty big game. Big game
Speaker 1: helps at it's at home. But still they've got a
Speaker 1: road spot against Syracuse, which we'll talk about Syracuse. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot to write home about, but the Carrier
Speaker 1: Dome is a very weird place to play, very true
Speaker 1: at Miami Week six. Miami should still be pretty solid.
Speaker 2: Then they've got it should be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got this stretch later on in the year,
Speaker 1: Clemson at nc State in what may end up being
Speaker 1: a let down look ahead spot. We'll have to talk
Speaker 1: about them when we get there at Notre Dame Boston
Speaker 1: College and then Florida. Nine wins in that schedule would
Speaker 1: be a masterful job for Willie Taggert, would it not.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, with quarterback uncertainty and installing everything new that
Speaker 2: the defense is switching up pretty dramatically, and outside of
Speaker 2: Lavonta Taylor, you know, it's a pretty decent quarterback conference
Speaker 2: and a pretty decent quarterback schedule for Florida State, and
Speaker 2: having secondary question is not the best. So yes, if
Speaker 2: he wins nine games with that schedule, especially how it
Speaker 2: rolls up at the end. And I really do like
Speaker 2: some of I like the ones a lot pretty much everywhere.
Speaker 2: I don't love receiver, but you know, Marvin Wilson sliding
Speaker 2: in there. Brian Burns is a very good defensive end,
Speaker 2: as is Caneo. So there's a lot to love ceiling
Speaker 2: wise about Florida State. But growing pains wise, you're right,
Speaker 2: Going to Miami, going to Louisville.
Speaker 1: It's real tough, real tough.
Speaker 2: It's just a lot of road time, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of it's a lot of plane, it's a lot of
Speaker 2: hotel bed. It's it's not my favorite. If I'm a
Speaker 2: Florida State.
Speaker 1: Fan, the Baby Noles road tour will be something to
Speaker 1: care about in twenty eighteen very quickly, because we do
Speaker 1: have to pay some of the bills, and we do
Speaker 1: have what four other teams in the ACC Fatlantic we
Speaker 1: need to get to before we talk about the AAC West.
Speaker 1: What can Florida State fans expect from Willie Taggert? What
Speaker 1: will look different from what we saw last year and
Speaker 1: the many years prior under Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 2: At least one solid year of hard work, I can
Speaker 2: guarantee you. Actually, no, I shouldn't say that, because I
Speaker 2: think it was just under a year, but at least
Speaker 2: eleven months, Okay, a very hard work and dedication to
Speaker 2: the program. Now, what they can expect, obviously is something
Speaker 2: they've already seen. He will recruit very well throughout. So
Speaker 2: that's off the field, he hired pretty well. I know
Speaker 2: this staff didn't come together as he would have as
Speaker 2: he would have liked. But on field stuff, they're going
Speaker 2: to play a lot faster than they played with Jimbo
Speaker 2: Fisher last year. I think there is going to be
Speaker 2: it's going to be a lot simpler, and that is
Speaker 2: something that Florida State and Florida State fans have been
Speaker 2: clamoring for for the past couple of years. And it's
Speaker 2: cool to say, like, oh, his offense is so complicated,
Speaker 2: and oh, Jimbo empowers the quarterback to make all these
Speaker 2: reads and adjustments. But sometimes just like we have better
Speaker 2: players run faster than the dudes in the other colored uniforms.
Speaker 2: So I think there is going to be a lot
Speaker 2: more speed rotated in and out of the game. There's
Speaker 2: going to be more simplicity, and he is going to
Speaker 2: This is not necessarily different, but Willy Taggert has that
Speaker 2: sort of killer instinct that has served him well both
Speaker 2: on and off the field, that I think is going
Speaker 2: to It's going to have Florida State fans responding pretty
Speaker 2: positively in the medium and long term. This year. It's
Speaker 2: going to be tricky, but I think they were due,
Speaker 2: you know, Jimbo Fisher's situation not getting along with everybody
Speaker 2: being distracted by, you know, just bickering with administrative types
Speaker 2: at Florida State, that the program was due for a reboot,
Speaker 2: a reset, and the new energy that Willy Taggart should
Speaker 2: bring in, I would imagine we'll pay dividends. Even with
Speaker 2: that end of the schedule, it should be a fun
Speaker 2: Florida State team at bare minimum compared to where they've
Speaker 2: been these past couple of years.
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Speaker 1: NC state this year.
Speaker 2: Dan, Let's do it.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a hell of a ride, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, will be Wow, you had It's and this
Speaker 2: is kind of a theme both throughout the Fatlantic with
Speaker 2: certain teams and the AAC West is okay, quarterback seems
Speaker 2: to be in a pretty good place. Either somebody's experienced
Speaker 2: in coming back and as a strength, or somebody showed
Speaker 2: a little bit of a promise to finish out last year.
Speaker 2: But that defense canna be rough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's it's frenzy status. It's all on Ryan Finley,
Speaker 1: and I do mean all because they lose Jalen Samuels,
Speaker 1: their h back. We talked about Jalen Samuels for three years.
Speaker 1: He did so much for that offense as a runner
Speaker 1: and a receiver. And you factor that in with Nahem
Speaker 1: Hines who's also gone from the backfield.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: I feel great about their passing game because Kelvin Harmon,
Speaker 1: Stephen Lewis, and Jacoby Myers they're all back in addition
Speaker 1: to Ryan Finley. But who that defense? If that is
Speaker 1: not going to be mcgyverd together, I don't know what
Speaker 1: will in the acc FA Atlantic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose If you are into good quarterback play,
Speaker 2: is this is why you care about NC State. You
Speaker 2: get to watch Ryan Finley, who was super efficient most
Speaker 2: of last year, could be one of the first three
Speaker 2: or four quarterbacks taken in the draft that that's something
Speaker 2: you're interested in. And there's gonna be shootouts back half
Speaker 2: of that schedule.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoof?
Speaker 2: So I mean, this isn't all that diff Like. They
Speaker 2: gave up a ton through the air last year, even
Speaker 2: with Bradley Chubb, even with that defensive line. So there's
Speaker 2: no real reason to assume anything too different from Menci
Speaker 2: State this year. But that's fine. They were fun to
Speaker 2: watch last year. They were within a few points of Clemson,
Speaker 2: a few seconds of beating Clemson. The back half of
Speaker 2: this schedule is they go to Clemson, to Syracuse, Florida
Speaker 2: State wake at Louisville, and then North Carolina on the
Speaker 2: road as well. We don't know if that's super crazy,
Speaker 2: but right this is another and we didn't play this
Speaker 2: sound too much last year. We've already played it tonight.
Speaker 2: They have Clemson on the road October twentieth, Florida State
Speaker 2: at home November three. And where do they go in
Speaker 2: between those two weeks? Tell me Dan, they go to
Speaker 2: the Carrier Dome. Oh look a dun sandwich.
Speaker 1: You I'm so hungry.
Speaker 2: I'm so hungry.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a letdown look ahead spot if I've ever
Speaker 1: seen one.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to not with the confidence I had
Speaker 2: about Boston College and Clemson say that Syracuse is they're
Speaker 2: right there to just pick off NC State, But Syracuse
Speaker 2: is kind of like a tapeworm. Ultimately, you're going to
Speaker 2: keep on living your life, probably like Clemson did last year. Right,
Speaker 2: but you go to you know, Ellis you had their
Speaker 2: struggles with just randomly with Syracuse. You remember Louisville back
Speaker 2: in the day, troubles like they are just they're going
Speaker 2: to attach themselves to your intestine, right and make things
Speaker 2: tricky for a while.
Speaker 1: Like you can get rid of them, but only with
Speaker 1: really strong antibiotics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to take some time. It is going
Speaker 2: to take some time. You go to Western New York,
Speaker 2: you're going to catch something. Yeah, and that's something is
Speaker 2: is dino babitis.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Syracuse tapeworm. I think is an
Speaker 1: apt way to put it. I you know, so that
Speaker 1: of course is something that I think will be care
Speaker 1: worthy if you're looking at NC State. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: they're intriguing to me because outside of a couple teams
Speaker 1: on the schedule. Right, with the exception of teams like
Speaker 1: Clemson in Florida State, you don't look at it and say, wow,
Speaker 1: there's like a ton of offensive firepower that they got
Speaker 1: to worry about, right.
Speaker 2: Right, No, there isn't.
Speaker 1: So you know, for as bad as the defense could be,
Speaker 1: and we don't know, for as bad as they could
Speaker 1: be this year, their offense could just be good enough
Speaker 1: to offset some of the issues that they might have
Speaker 1: on defense, so they still, who the hell knows, could
Speaker 1: end up winning a bunch of games. I think that
Speaker 1: really lends credence to what you said at the top.
Speaker 1: A lot of shootouts this year, a lot of reason
Speaker 1: to be really interested in how NC State finishes in
Speaker 1: that ACC. Fatlantic. Look, you could make a case for
Speaker 1: them to finish fifth or sixth in that side of
Speaker 1: the ACC. Yeah, as much as you could make a
Speaker 1: case for them to finish third. It really varies depending
Speaker 1: on how that defense plays, and particularly if the offense
Speaker 1: can pick up the slack. The other thing that I'll
Speaker 1: throw out there that I don't think you mentioned, you
Speaker 1: might have, and if you did, I apologize. There's a
Speaker 1: pretty big litmus test Week three against West Virginia which
Speaker 1: could be I was just going to go there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a ton of fun to watch, especially given the fact
Speaker 1: that both teams are on track to put up a
Speaker 1: lot of points this year.
Speaker 2: This is true, and they're they're very similar there. You know,
Speaker 2: they have that quarterback who is pretty well regarded. They
Speaker 2: have the receiving experience and talent defense with huge questions.
Speaker 2: That'll be fun. It will one. I think that's an
Speaker 2: afternoon three thirty kick. That's going to be after two
Speaker 2: and listen. I'm not going to put down JMU. This
Speaker 2: is a powerhouse program, but they should beat JMU.
Speaker 1: They better beat JMU. Dave Dorian almost took the Tennessee job.
Speaker 1: They better beat JMU.
Speaker 2: The other great thing about just in terms of schedule,
Speaker 2: is they miss Miami, Virginia Tech, and Georgia Tech cross
Speaker 2: division wise, and no Notre Dame this year.
Speaker 1: No Notre Dame. That's right.
Speaker 2: It's a nice year to have to rely on some
Speaker 2: smoke in mirror and one single right arm for success.
Speaker 2: I know they go to Clemson into the Carrier Dome
Speaker 2: and consecutive weeks, and the back half of their schedule
Speaker 2: they go to Louisville and maybe Juan Pass you know,
Speaker 2: beyond having an excellent name is going to be incredible.
Speaker 2: But all things considered, this would be this should be
Speaker 2: at the very least another fun team.
Speaker 1: Right, it should be a fun team. It won't be
Speaker 1: fun against a team like Boston College. It's just going
Speaker 1: to run the ball forty times. That will be as
Speaker 1: they should. I think that will be a bit of
Speaker 1: an issue for NCI State. But otherwise, yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a hell of a ride. That's the best I
Speaker 1: can say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's things. If things lined up like
Speaker 2: this last year, it would have been ideal schedule wise,
Speaker 2: but great fun. This is good. This is a North
Speaker 2: Carolina State is a perfect example of you're a fan
Speaker 2: of somebody eighteen hundred miles away and c stay it's
Speaker 2: going a good TV show this year.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Syracuse tapeworm, shall we. I'd love
Speaker 1: to when four and eight last year. Grungy Eric Dungee
Speaker 1: is back in what feels like is seventeenth season.
Speaker 2: Now I'm rooting for him. I like that he's randomly
Speaker 2: from Portland and got a last second Syracuse offer and
Speaker 2: was like, okay, sure, whatever.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a team with no true game breakers
Speaker 1: on offense. No, the defense surprisingly is actually stronger for
Speaker 1: Syracuse this year, stronger than I think we're used to.
Speaker 1: But the fact remains that Syracuse is one in fifteen
Speaker 1: in their last four novembers. Dan Ah Bowl eligibility is
Speaker 1: going to come down to games at Wake and Boston
Speaker 1: College and at home against Louisville. We've got a neutral
Speaker 1: cider in there, also LOUMERWL Louiaville against Notre Dame. They
Speaker 1: may need to win two or three of those games
Speaker 1: late in the year to get Bowl eligible. And I
Speaker 1: feel like that's an awful lot to ask.
Speaker 2: Where is that Notre Dame game?
Speaker 1: It's a Yankee Stadium, Dan Yankee Stadium, Okay, the de
Speaker 1: facto oh Pinstripe Bowl, but not really the Pinstripe Bull.
Speaker 2: Oh, and you have your hat, You're all set if
Speaker 2: you would decide to head on down to the Bronx.
Speaker 1: There's also, as we mentioned earlier, games in the Carrier
Speaker 1: Dome versus Florida State, versus NC State versus Louisville, Louisville Louisville.
Speaker 1: Who will talk about vul in just a little bit.
Speaker 1: The conventional logic dan mm hmm, was that Syracuse was
Speaker 1: going to take a big leap forward last year, and
Speaker 1: that did not really happen. It was a tough schedule.
Speaker 1: Eric Dungee missed I think the last what three games
Speaker 1: of the year mm hmm, and it kind of came
Speaker 1: apart on him. Now they've got a fair amount of
Speaker 1: experience coming back in the ACC. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm expecting a breakthrough here for Dino Babers. I want
Speaker 1: there to be a breakthrough, I really do. I'm just
Speaker 1: not feeling it.
Speaker 2: So few notes about Syracuse. One schedule is actually pretty
Speaker 2: awesome when you look at it. So this is another team,
Speaker 2: no Georgia Tech, no Virginia Tech, no Miami. When you
Speaker 2: have a suspect defense, I agree with you that their
Speaker 2: defense should be better. That's mostly because of their defensive
Speaker 2: line is experienced, and I think should make some plays
Speaker 2: behind that defensive line. I don't know how happy I
Speaker 2: am with this QS defense. But listen. They go to
Speaker 2: Western Michigan, Fine Wagner, Fine Florida State is at home.
Speaker 2: They're going to lose that game most likely, but whatever,
Speaker 2: it's at home. At least they have Yukon at home.
Speaker 2: They go to Clemson two pit. They these are like
Speaker 2: going two pit is not Pitt's going to start? Who
Speaker 2: at the retread USC Alabama, Like this pit's going to
Speaker 2: be not great probably this year the road games back
Speaker 2: half of the schedule, when things hypothetically get tough and
Speaker 2: you're wounded and beat up, like as Syracuse was last year,
Speaker 2: they go two wake. They have Notre Dame. They're gonna
Speaker 2: lose Notre Dame at Yankee Stadium, but they're not going
Speaker 2: to South Bend and they go to Boston College. So
Speaker 2: this is not a murderer's rose schedule. Eric Dungee, we
Speaker 2: are every digit we have is cross that he stays
Speaker 2: healthy this year. There's a cool like the quarterback room
Speaker 2: is an amazing story with Eric Dungee being a fourth
Speaker 2: year starter, Rex Culpeper coming back from testicular cancer, and
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito being one of like nine famous Tommy DeVito's
Speaker 2: the bass player for the four season four seasons, Frankie
Speaker 2: Valley in the four seasons, Tommy DeVito, Joe Pesci's character
Speaker 2: and Goodfellowvida like A'm I funny how I'm when I'm
Speaker 2: a clown. I'm using Tommy DeVito and Tommy DeVito's a
Speaker 2: four star blue chip quarterback who may be the best
Speaker 2: pure passer in that room. So Syracuse at least has
Speaker 2: a Tommy Davito. And I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna be quarterback by the time
Speaker 2: to get to say North Carolina on October twentieth. But
Speaker 2: the Syracuse tapeworm is real, Tie, it is very real,
Speaker 2: And I don't know who's going to be administering said tapeworm. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but this should be a year in what it is now.
Speaker 2: You're three of Dino Baber's year three. That year two,
Speaker 2: they beat Clemson and we all remember that, and that
Speaker 2: was a program defining or at least season defining moment
Speaker 2: for Syracuse before. I mean, they didn't win after that game,
Speaker 2: but it's set up that they could go to a
Speaker 2: bowl game this year, and that would be a cool story,
Speaker 2: all things considered, with how down they were and all
Speaker 2: of my bluster about the ACC being basically joke free
Speaker 2: in terms of teams and basement dwelling. So I'm rooting
Speaker 2: for Syracuse to be an effective tapeworm.
Speaker 1: I'm not totally on board with your assertion here that
Speaker 1: the schedule isn't isn't that bad? Well, I think I
Speaker 1: think it's a lot to ask late in the year
Speaker 1: for them to win two or three of those games
Speaker 1: that I listed in order to make a Bowl, because
Speaker 1: that's what it's going to come down to. So we'll
Speaker 1: wait and see on that front. But on your point
Speaker 1: of the Syracuse tapeworm, a subplot could be that there's
Speaker 1: only one man in the world who knows the cure
Speaker 1: to the Syracuse tapeworm. He's a man on the inside
Speaker 1: and he's the punter named Sterling Hulfrichter Junior.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what a name.
Speaker 1: If there's anybody who knows the antidote, it's somebody named
Speaker 1: Sterling Hulfrichter Junior.
Speaker 2: As a note, that's not as entertaining as that. You
Speaker 2: can get into the Syracuse Wagner game right now for
Speaker 2: six dollars, So a ticket is going to cost less
Speaker 2: than a hot dog at that game.
Speaker 1: All right, two teams left in the ACC. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about well, Lo Louisville. So I mentioned how Boston College
Speaker 1: might be the most interesting team in the ACC. I
Speaker 1: think I really mean it about Louisville. Louisville Louiauville went eight.
Speaker 2: And four a year. It's in your head and I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 1: You're so in my head. Eight and four year ago
Speaker 1: they lose Lamar Jackson. Everyone knows the deal about Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: all right. Heisman Trophy winning quarterback was unbelievable. But now
Speaker 1: this year they've got seven other guys who were on
Speaker 1: the team from a year ago who were back on offense.
Speaker 1: They've got four along the offensive line, and they've got
Speaker 1: their new quarterback, Juwan Pass, who's a freaking tank at
Speaker 1: six four, two thirty and he goes by the nickname Puma,
Speaker 1: which I love. Love that love that we've got Puma
Speaker 1: Pass out there running the show for the Louisville Cardinals.
Speaker 1: So that should at least be fun on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball. The defense, Dan also could be fun,
Speaker 1: but only in a very sadistic way. Just throwing it
Speaker 1: out there because I know they're bringing Brian van Gorder
Speaker 1: to town. And just as you were once a fan
Speaker 1: of a Brady Hoag defense, I too was once a
Speaker 1: fan of many Brian Van Gorder defenses, and Louisville fans,
Speaker 1: I feel for you.
Speaker 2: You may watch more Louisville games. This might be the
Speaker 2: care factor above even whom a pass just to bathe
Speaker 2: in the fact that you don't have to be invested
Speaker 2: in the BBG defense.
Speaker 1: Somebody, please, I am begging for somebody out there. Somebody
Speaker 1: find me. The article that is written, if it isn't written,
Speaker 1: should be written and will be written about the new
Speaker 1: aggressive attacking mentality that BVG is going to bring to town.
Speaker 1: Somebody's going to write that article.
Speaker 2: Dan, I just and we'll get to this the back
Speaker 2: half of the show. I did just see in reading
Speaker 2: about I think it's SMU and Sonny Dyke's who hired him.
Speaker 2: They hired Kevin Kine. I believe his name is the
Speaker 2: NIU defensive coordinator. Attacking mentality. Baby, they love it. It
Speaker 2: should be noted somebody's going to write that article about BVG.
Speaker 2: Do you think it will be? And you are in
Speaker 2: control of this partially A top I don't know. Six
Speaker 2: Fantasy Thing draft pick. Juwan Pass is a quarterback and
Speaker 2: his name is Pass.
Speaker 1: Oh, that might be a little too dad jokey for
Speaker 1: our Fantasy Things draft.
Speaker 2: Who do you think is calling these games?
Speaker 1: I know, I mean it's Dad joke Central calling these games.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean it's in the conversation.
Speaker 1: We'll put it there. It's on my list.
Speaker 2: It's so blunt and direct. I wish there were, like
Speaker 2: a if there were a long snapper named Broderick Snappington, right,
Speaker 2: that'd be for me, that'd be a little bit better.
Speaker 1: See instead of the pass quarterback factor, right, I think
Speaker 1: we might go with more of an ironic play given
Speaker 1: the fact that Juan Passes nickname is Puma, yet he's
Speaker 1: six four two thirty. The Puma, of course being a
Speaker 1: regal sinewy beast out on thee yeah, out on the
Speaker 1: uh you know, western part of North America and whatnot,
Speaker 1: and he of course being just an utter tank at
Speaker 1: six four two thirty. How do we feel about Louisville, Dan,
Speaker 1: Other than those two reasons why we should care, how
Speaker 1: do you feel about a eight or nine win Louisville
Speaker 1: team this year? Is that too generous?
Speaker 2: I don't think it's too generous. They return a good
Speaker 2: amount on offense. Their skill talent around Juwan Pass should
Speaker 2: be pretty great. The line, as you mentioned, is what
Speaker 2: it's four out of five for starters. So the situation
Speaker 2: the offense finds itself in and namely Bobby Petrino. It
Speaker 2: seems advantageous. They opened the season in a less than
Speaker 2: advantageous Alabama not good. So they play Alabama? Is that Orlando?
Speaker 2: Where they play that Orlando?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yes, Camping World Stadium, Dan, Yes, And.
Speaker 2: That feels dicey. That feels like a dicey way to
Speaker 2: introduce a new quarterback. We saw that with USC a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago and Max Brown. So outside of that,
Speaker 2: the non conference part of their schedule, you know, they
Speaker 2: finished with Kentucky. It's fine. Road wise, I think it's
Speaker 2: pretty great. This is another team that is not I mean,
Speaker 2: they have Georgia Tech, but they don't have Miami of
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech, so cross division wise, and they don't have
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. So it's fine. Alabama changes the paradigm of
Speaker 2: sense to schedule is.
Speaker 1: Fine just a little bit. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2: Defensively, linebacker is intriguing. Upfront, I'm not scared of too much,
Speaker 2: especially given the defensive coordinator and the scheme. You're gonna
Speaker 2: be able to throw on this Louisville team a good amount.
Speaker 2: The good news for them is a lot of these
Speaker 2: teams don't have super talented, proven quarterbacks at least in
Speaker 2: the first half of the schedule, so that's at least
Speaker 2: again outside of Alabama.
Speaker 1: You could dan, you could squint and find eight or
Speaker 1: nine wins here if you're feeling generous. You could also
Speaker 1: see it going terribly wrong and then missing a bowl.
Speaker 1: That's part of the reason why I think Louisville has
Speaker 1: a high care factor in the ACC this year. Whether's
Speaker 1: so intriguing because yeah, it could kind of go either way.
Speaker 2: No, you're right. I think seven and a half feels
Speaker 2: about the right over under. I think eight and four
Speaker 2: with a couple of breaks. I know if Jawan Pass
Speaker 2: works out, feels a bit right. I want to highlight
Speaker 2: a dude if you will, if you can play the
Speaker 2: same Their right tackle is what is considered to be
Speaker 2: a big dude. McKai Becton is six seven, three sixty
Speaker 2: whole and he's good at football.
Speaker 1: Geez.
Speaker 2: And we've seen offensive line issues very recently with Louisville.
Speaker 2: It appears to be solidifying. They hired a new coach
Speaker 2: before last year. Up front, I imagine if Juwan Pass
Speaker 2: is able to develop throughout this season after the Alabama game,
Speaker 2: a big reason for that will be that line giving
Speaker 2: him time to throw to experienced receivers. And McKai becton
Speaker 2: is the clear size and yeah size of that line.
Speaker 2: So he is the uh as you look at pickup trucks,
Speaker 2: it's like an extended bed.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, And finally in the acc FA Atlantic before
Speaker 1: we move quickly and buzz through the aa C West. Yes,
Speaker 1: talking about wake Forest, Dan, wake Forest went seven and
Speaker 1: five a year ago. They were plucky. I enjoyed talking.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed predicting what would happen next with the Wolford wagon.
Speaker 1: The Wolford wagon has has ridden off into the sunset,
Speaker 1: rolled on. Yep. Now we're talking about the Kendall Hinton era,
Speaker 1: which is going to have to wait a few extra
Speaker 1: games to start in earnest here because he was suspended
Speaker 1: for the first three games of the year due to
Speaker 1: a violation of team rules. So where do we stand
Speaker 1: here with wake Forest. We know that the offensive line
Speaker 1: is back. We know that the receiving cores is mostly back.
Speaker 1: We know that Matt Coleburn is back at running back,
Speaker 1: had almost a thousand yards a year ago. We know
Speaker 1: all that. We don't know a ton about quarterback. We'll
Speaker 1: wait and see The real question is going to be
Speaker 1: that front seven, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yes, that defense may be pretty rough, but here's why
Speaker 2: you care. And I would probably group this in that
Speaker 2: same Boston College. And I promise I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: and I'm not being condescending in my heart about this.
Speaker 2: Wake Forest is a competitive team. This like Boston College matters.
Speaker 2: They're developing players on both sides of the ball. Duke
Speaker 2: Edge of four unfortunately is gone. I mean still alive,
Speaker 2: but no longer in Winston Salem. And you know, whether
Speaker 2: it's John Wolford, whether it's just the claw fence. In general,
Speaker 2: it's good. Life is good watching the ACC and wake Forest.
Speaker 2: They were like a foot and a half from beating
Speaker 2: Florida State last year.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: They win a big shootout, fun bowl game. Wake Forest,
Speaker 2: a team that's associated with the saddest moment in ACC
Speaker 2: Championship game history, is a fun team developing quarterbacks. They
Speaker 2: have like an all purpose standout And he's a dude.
Speaker 2: But we don't need to play the sound again, but
Speaker 2: he is definitely Greg Dortch, which is a ridiculous name
Speaker 2: to say. It sounds fake. It sounds like he sells
Speaker 2: Spokane better than any other realtor in the area. Trust
Speaker 2: Greg Dortch with your ranch house. But Greg Dortch is
Speaker 2: really fun. He could be a Debo type impact player
Speaker 2: for Wake. I like this situation for Wake a lot.
Speaker 2: They're not all that different from a couple of these
Speaker 2: other teams that are gonna rely on shootouts but schematically
Speaker 2: on offense with a line that's in place and at
Speaker 2: least a promising quarterback. We think in Kendall Hinton. There's
Speaker 2: a lot to like again, adding to the joke freeness
Speaker 2: of the ACC, which I can name a couple of
Speaker 2: other major conferences off the top of my head that
Speaker 2: are nowhere near as joke free as the ACC.
Speaker 1: Joke free ACC. I like it. It's got a ring
Speaker 1: to it. Can I can I confess something here?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: Can I just get it out before we get any
Speaker 1: deeper into our season previews? Here?
Speaker 2: Come into my safe arms time.
Speaker 1: There are deep, dark, unspoken moments when I forget that
Speaker 1: Dave Duran and Dave claws And are different people.
Speaker 2: It's okay, Dave is a very acc name.
Speaker 1: And I'm not proud of that because Dave Claws in Hey,
Speaker 1: He's done a really good job. Last year was fun
Speaker 1: to watch. He's two and zero in bowls. He's twenty
Speaker 1: one and twenty nine overall at wake Forest, which is
Speaker 1: not an easy task.
Speaker 2: It's a full from scratch project that he has succeeded
Speaker 2: thus far with. And if there is any one wish
Speaker 2: I have for Wake Forest is please get rid of
Speaker 2: the WF helmet decal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could do so much better. Go fuld demon deacon,
Speaker 1: full demon Deacon.
Speaker 2: Do something. If you're refreshing successfully with the claw offence,
Speaker 2: refresh the look. Please please, please please please get just
Speaker 2: mess up that hat. Do something.
Speaker 1: Just write claw fence on it, but capitalize the W
Speaker 1: in the f. Oh do something happy medium. What's their
Speaker 1: schedule like? Is it is wake schedule? Like?
Speaker 2: Could they finish with it? Seems Let's see, they go
Speaker 2: to Florida State. They open at Tulane, which is going
Speaker 2: to be tricky. That's a Thursday night opener. May have
Speaker 2: Florida State and Louisville on the road in consecutive weeks.
Speaker 1: Not like the worst road schedule here.
Speaker 2: No, and they have a bye week before that. Florida
Speaker 2: State Louisville double dep Yeah, all right, but Cloud they
Speaker 2: finish listen this. They finished with Syracuse, NC State on
Speaker 2: the road pit and going to Duke. It's it feels
Speaker 2: like they could go to a bowl game again, which
Speaker 2: is great.
Speaker 1: I tell you right now. NC State might get torched
Speaker 1: by the Dorch torch.
Speaker 2: By the door, see that hat Dorch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Louisville with that BVG defense, they could get torched
Speaker 1: by the Dorch torch by the doors. Just saying, so
Speaker 1: there you go. We went through the acc FA Atlantic,
Speaker 1: all seven teams of it. Dan, Yes, please write in
Speaker 1: Suliverble at gmail dot com. Let us know your thoughts.
Speaker 1: We're also available on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, all those hot spots.
Speaker 1: Let us know your thoughts on the acc Atlantic very quickly.
Speaker 1: People have been asking us now for gosh, I want
Speaker 1: to say, it's been five six years. As we do
Speaker 1: our season previews, we've had different iterations of season previews
Speaker 1: for a while. There. We were doing our top twenty
Speaker 1: five teams and our top forty teams. Then we switched
Speaker 1: it up to conferences, Then we switched it up to
Speaker 1: I forget whatever we did last year, but it was
Speaker 1: in Latin, like we did it in Latin pig last
Speaker 1: than before. Sure, Yeah, this year We're going to go
Speaker 1: division by division. We've had so many requests to talk
Speaker 1: in a little bit more detail about the group of five, correct,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna try it this year. We're not going
Speaker 1: to devote a full hour and five like we did
Speaker 1: the ACC Atlantic. But let's talk about the ACC West, Dan,
Speaker 1: Let's talk about why we should care about Memphis, Houston
Speaker 1: Navy SMU two Lane in Tulsa.
Speaker 2: You should care because and I'm gonna make this very simple.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to encapsulate this in a way that
Speaker 2: makes sense to my dumb brain. You know, when you're
Speaker 2: watching Netflix and you watch a show and you go
Speaker 2: on with your life. You're not doing anything else on Netflix.
Speaker 2: You're making yourself a sandwich, You're going to work whatever,
Speaker 2: and you come back, you come back to Netflix and
Speaker 2: you say, oh, because you watch The Office, you might
Speaker 2: enjoy Parks and Recreation right right, because you watched Making
Speaker 2: a Murder whatever that show is called. You might like this.
Speaker 2: You know, Peaky blind who's done it, Peaky Blinders, whatever?
Speaker 2: If you like The Big twelve, if you like PAC
Speaker 2: twelve after Dark, you might like the AAC West. I
Speaker 2: am really like do you have Spotify? Tie. Is that
Speaker 2: a certain too, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Discover Weekly is essentially
Speaker 2: knows me better than my best friends, my wife, my family, whatever.
Speaker 2: There is something very Discover weekly about the AAC West.
Speaker 2: Did you like Pactole after Dark? We got sunny dikes.
Speaker 2: Odds are astronomical that you're not rooting for Memphis, Houston, Navy, SMU,
Speaker 2: Tulane or Tulsa because they're just smaller football programs. And
Speaker 2: I know there's talk about like, oh, there's it's the
Speaker 2: Power six not the Power five because of the AAC.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Memphis is really fun to watch,
Speaker 2: and I have no rooting interest. Only I've been to Memphis.
Speaker 2: I have no rooting interest in the Tigers. Houston's going
Speaker 2: to be fun to watch this year. Navy is going
Speaker 2: to be fun to There's questions, there's astro there's ifs
Speaker 2: for all of these teams, but this is a TV show.
Speaker 2: If you like Khalil Tate in Arizona, I think you're
Speaker 2: gonna like Derek King for Houston.
Speaker 1: That's took over at quarterback. Excuse me, that's Eric with
Speaker 1: a queue for quarterback.
Speaker 2: D Yes, that's true. That is the exactly much. If
Speaker 2: you like watching Georgia Tech a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: with Justin Thomas. Whatever, You're gonna like Malcolm Perry and Navy.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna hate watching Malcolm Perry and Navy in
Speaker 1: San Diego against Notre Dame. Why are they playing in
Speaker 1: San Diego?
Speaker 2: If you like previous Willie Fritz option teams, he's gonna
Speaker 2: throw the ball pretty effectively. Not him, Jonathan Banks. If
Speaker 2: you liked watching those Baylor Okay, Tulsa's gonna yeah, Tulsa's
Speaker 2: gonna be bad. This is almost assuredly going to be bad,
Speaker 2: but they might put up some points, who knows. And
Speaker 2: Oliver is the best defensive lineman in the country and
Speaker 2: he's on the same team as perhaps one of the
Speaker 2: most fun new quarterbacks in the country and Derek King potentially,
Speaker 2: and we haven't even mentioned Memphis. If you like watching
Speaker 2: last year's Memphis team, there's a lot back on both sides.
Speaker 2: They're going this is going to be this is Discover
Speaker 2: Weekly Pack twelve after Dark. And if that doesn't sell
Speaker 2: you the AAC West tie, I need to go back
Speaker 2: to the drawing door board because I thought that was
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: That wasn't half bad? Dan Yes, not to mention Brady
Speaker 1: White from Memphis. Formerly I think of Arizona State.
Speaker 2: Right following Norvel to Memphis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think there are a lot of reasons
Speaker 1: to be excited about the AAC West.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you look at the AAC in general,
Speaker 2: and you look at teams who scored the fewest points
Speaker 2: not coming from the West. Nope, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: tell you the AAC East is discover Weekly Big twelve
Speaker 2: because it's just not Nope. Outside of UCF, I am
Speaker 2: extremely unironically excited like that. I would make the AAC
Speaker 2: West a DVR show. They're like a great Tuesday watch.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not going to be able to watch every
Speaker 2: minute of all of these games, but they'll be on YouTube,
Speaker 2: They'll be on some service, and I'll be able to
Speaker 2: skim through and have a grand old time. That's the
Speaker 2: AAC West to me. Discover Weekly Pac twelve.
Speaker 1: After dark, I'll be discovering Memphis at Missouri on October
Speaker 1: the twentieth. That could be a fun game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it absolutely can be.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't want to talk again about Navy against
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, but I suppose if you hate Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: that could be interesting. Oh, by the way, we could
Speaker 1: talk on September fifteenth about Navy against Lehigh for a
Speaker 1: little Patriot League seasoning.
Speaker 2: We could. I anticipate it a lot of fun here
Speaker 2: in the and Houston has a couple of Power five teams.
Speaker 1: Earlier, Houston's got to have Arizona Texas Tech. They'll probably
Speaker 1: shut out Texas Tech within Oliver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the back half of that defense is
Speaker 2: your voice goes up a little bit when you talk
Speaker 2: about some of that. They lost a lot, but they're
Speaker 2: gonna be fun. Yeah, Man, there are time do you
Speaker 2: have you listened to your Discover Weekly? Sometimes it is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I've polluted mine because I listen to music when I work.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that is sort of like that chip Ill, you know,
Speaker 2: ambient productive music, and so that that pollutes a little bit.
Speaker 2: I wish there was a way to change things up.
Speaker 2: But man, I love me some Discover Weekly, and they
Speaker 2: are not paying me a damn dime to say that.
Speaker 1: No, they are definitely not paying us a damn time
Speaker 1: on that firm.
Speaker 2: Get at us, Spotify. I believe you have gone public
Speaker 2: and you are flushed with cash.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that does it for our first preview shows.
Speaker 2: Who's coming out of the West.
Speaker 1: By the way, who's coming out of the West?
Speaker 2: Yeah, which team do you feel most confident? You feel
Speaker 2: Memphis reloading a quarterback, new look Houston offense major Apple
Speaker 2: White and ned York King and Kendall Briles. We should
Speaker 2: mention that ye'll be uncomfortable, but effect is Malcolm perryat
Speaker 2: the same type of you know, game breaker.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Memphis again. Okay, give me a Memphis.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I'm gonna do that as well. They
Speaker 2: lose their offensive coordinator for the second straight year. But
Speaker 2: I'm going Memphi.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Memphis. Yeah, let's do Memphis here. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here is the deal moving forward, Dan and I,
Speaker 1: we believe have done an alarming amount of planning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to plot our pathway through till the end of August.
Speaker 1: We've got a show with Bill Barnwell that we're very
Speaker 1: excited about, non football show that we've also got, Yeah
Speaker 1: on the schedule. We've got our Live Fantasy Things show,
Speaker 1: which we will released even if you can't make it
Speaker 1: to Chicago. We want you to be there, but if
Speaker 1: you can't, we are going to put that one out there.
Speaker 1: After the fact so you can listen. We think we've
Speaker 1: got a pathway through all the way until the start
Speaker 1: of the college football season. There will be a point
Speaker 1: here very soon, and by very soon, I think I
Speaker 1: mean next week where we're gonna start putting two shows
Speaker 1: out a.
Speaker 2: Week, ramp it up. We're gonna stop.
Speaker 1: We're gonna ramp this machine up and start talking about
Speaker 1: more conferences in the span of a week. So this
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Speaker 2: Ty as we ramp up, this is my final question.
Speaker 2: You ever had a ramp?
Speaker 1: A like a bike ramptible?
Speaker 2: No, the ramp?
Speaker 1: This is a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, r a MP It is a vegetable. Have you
Speaker 2: heard of are seeing a ramp on a menu?
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that in my life. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: this ramp vegetable.
Speaker 2: This is something I've only heard of, probably in the
Speaker 2: last two or three years.
Speaker 1: Is that like it?
Speaker 2: Not? I did not grow up with ramps.
Speaker 1: It's like a super scallion crossed with a really big
Speaker 1: spinach leaf sorta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's scallion shall It's pretty good. You can roast
Speaker 2: them up.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's garlikie. It's a wild onion widespread across eastern Canada.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean you can get them in the States. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you can get some ramps at Wagman's Tie.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, that is my.
Speaker 2: That is my food recommendation for the week. Ramps. You
Speaker 2: ever have a ape escape? It's another vegetable I learned
Speaker 2: about in the last Jesus. So no have you? Oh
Speaker 2: those are good too.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna take your word for it. Dan.
Speaker 2: It's their sort of rudy. It's like if you're going
Speaker 2: to order vegetables.
Speaker 1: Rudy, No different rudy.
Speaker 2: Okay, you got to get into vegetables tie before the
Speaker 2: season starts, when all hell breaks loose in your stomach.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason I bring it up. Ramps Escapes.
Speaker 2: Fun to say.
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