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Speaker 1: And welcome back to our number two of the Drive

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and Matt Gennaro.

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Speaker 1: Felice has dropped a new mock draft on the NFL

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Speaker 1: dot Com. So let's take a look at that one.

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Speaker 1: See where he made a mistake with the Steelers. Keep

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Speaker 1: our top twenty one in mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I say this is fresh on our noggin.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so. He has cam Ward going number one overall

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Speaker 1: to the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 3: So I've been giving this thought to this the last

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours, and and I i too, I would

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Speaker 3: take if I were them. Yeah, I mean, the more

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Speaker 3: I think about it, the more I think he's a

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Speaker 3: legit number one quarterback prospect that maybe he's not quite

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Speaker 3: as good is the guy's top of last year's draft,

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Speaker 3: but you could win a lot of games with him

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Speaker 3: if he hit. I would take him if I were

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Speaker 3: the Titans over Carter or Hunter.

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Speaker 1: He has the Browns, then taking Abdul Carter.

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Speaker 3: I assume Garrett's gonna go yeah, and that would be

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Speaker 3: the smart move to me. I don't know if they'll

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Speaker 3: do it. They I kind of hope they take Sanders.

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Speaker 1: At three, the Giants take Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna take a quarter Maybe they trade.

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Speaker 1: I think they sign a quarterback and try to make

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Speaker 3: I think they'd love to get Ward, yeah, and might

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Speaker 3: even go to one to get them right, you know.

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Speaker 1: At four, the Patriots stake Will Campbell.

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Speaker 3: It's safe, yeah, I mean, I don't think he's special,

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Speaker 1: At five, he is the Jets trading up with the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars to take Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 3: I would never do that, but I could see them

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Speaker 3: doing it, wouldn't Yeah, right right. If I were the Jags,

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, great, I'm move down in a handful

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Speaker 1: At six, the Race take Tetoa McMillan, wide receiver at Arizona.

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Speaker 3: I could see that.

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Speaker 1: At seven, after trading down, the Jaguars take Will Johnson

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Speaker 3: I'll say they could have ended up with Graham still too,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At eight, the Panthers take Mason Graham put.

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Speaker 3: In next to Brown, you actually have a yeah, strength

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Speaker 1: At nine, the New Orleans Saints take Mikel Williams as

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Speaker 3: At ten, the Bear see how big he is? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: The Bears at ten take Kelvin Banks Junior.

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Speaker 3: This is that neighborhood where I think Banks goes to

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Speaker 3: one of these three or four team. Yeah, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: At eleven, the San Francisco forty nine Ers take armand

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Speaker 3: A Missouri conversation.

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Speaker 3: At twelve, also was on our list barely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Twelve, the cow Boys stake Ashton genty Fine, that's.

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Speaker 3: Been mocked there a million times. I don't Fey'll actually

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Speaker 1: At thirteen, the Denver Broncos trade up with the Miami

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Speaker 3: Right thought process wrong answers, Yeah, rondor Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who trades up for a tight end? Nobody.

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Speaker 1: At fourteen, the Indianapolis Colts take Tyler Warren. I think

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Speaker 3: He's a much better prospect. Yeah, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: But it's a deep tight end draft, all right.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think i'd take like Starks ahead of them.

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Speaker 1: That's why I haven't done our edge rusher rankings yet,

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Speaker 1: At sixteen, the Arizona Cardinals take Walter Nolan, defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: At seventeen, the Cincinnati Bengals take Mike Green edge rusher

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Speaker 1: At eighteen, the Seattle Seahawks take Tyler Booker guard out

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Speaker 3: I'm usually not in favor of that move, but for

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Speaker 3: middle of the offensive line, I totally get it.

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Speaker 1: At nineteen, I mean, he wasn't our list either. Nineteen

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers take Shamar Stewart, another guy didn't

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Speaker 3: Edge and linebackers are their spots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At twenty after trading back, the Miami Dolphins take

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Speaker 1: Malachai Starks safety out of Georgie.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Holand will be back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely not. They already said they're not going

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Speaker 3: Bulker went to pick or two before A guard is

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Speaker 3: a huge eat. Yeah, okay, that's good value.

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Speaker 1: At twenty one, he has the Steelers taking a Mecca Ecuba.

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Speaker 1: It's not who I would take.

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Speaker 3: It's not who I would take, but I understand it,

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Speaker 1: Well, I think he'll be a good player in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: The guys higher on our list. Yeah, you know right.

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Speaker 1: At twenty two, the Houston Texans trade up and take

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think those three receivers could

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Speaker 1: At twenty three, the Packers take Jawday Barron cornerback out

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Speaker 3: I don't think Alexander will be back and they almost

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Speaker 1: At twenty four of the Vikings take Kenneth Grant, defensive

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Speaker 3: The way our list went, was Grant the highest guy

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Speaker 3: I'd be thrilled ifure the Vikings for that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. The Chargers, after trading back, take O'marion Hampton, running

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. At twenty six, the Rams take Josh Simmons,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be shocked if he lasts that long, but

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Speaker 3: I guess you got to mock him in this neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: They're left tackles a free agent.

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Speaker 1: At twenty seven, the Ravens take James Pierce, junior edge

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, there's a lot of directions they could go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Twenty eight, the Lions take Nick Scourton, edge rusher

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Speaker 3: Although I do know that seems early to me, but

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Speaker 3: He's physical, dude, you know.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine, the Commanders take Josh Connerley, junior offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you got thirty guys free agents.

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Speaker 1: At thirty the Bills take Tyleek Williams, defensive tackle out

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs and take Donovan Jackson, the guard out of

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Speaker 3: I mean that he'd be for them. Yeah, he'd be

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Speaker 1: At thirty two, the Eagles and take Ghd Campbell, linebacker

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Speaker 3: I don't think they'd ever do that. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: they haven't used a linebacker pick forever. I understand the

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Speaker 1: But I think looking through it here, the the only

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who were our twelfth and sixteenth players?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Well, Darius Alexander's and Alexander two.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't. I think they would go early in

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Speaker 1: the second round. But again, if the draft fell this

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Speaker 1: way for the Steelers, I think they take Kenneth Grant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too. But if you knew this, you

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Speaker 3: I mean the guys in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Williams was there seven and the guys who weren't drafted.

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Speaker 3: There was nine dudes sitting there that you're comfortable taking

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Speaker 3: Well some of that too, right right right, So.

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Speaker 1: They could get some of those veteran players who you

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Speaker 3: But their drafts, no, they were weird. Yeah. I also

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Speaker 1: Because you're gonna you're gonna get rid of guys with

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Speaker 1: can do. We can only take thirty wide receivers. Well,

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Speaker 3: I've even heard this year they're having a hard time

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I was gonna we're going to do

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Speaker 1: offensively and defensively of the combine and they've identified one

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Speaker 3: And there's guys like that Kevin Dodson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some dudes that are gonna get drafted here.

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Speaker 1: The Washington state wide receiver Williams is it wasn't invited

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Speaker 3: Was I haven't even looked at the list?

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, right, but but you wonder how many teams

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Speaker 1: they came up with quarter They do this Name to

444
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Speaker 1: Know is how they come up with a sleeper, and

445
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 1: they're named to Know at quarterback is Graham Mertz, the

446
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,680
Speaker 1: quarterback from Florida tour an ACL in October. So he's

447
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 1: not going to work out at the combine, but you're

448
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 1: going to get the early medical testing. They're saying he's

449
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 1: a late round okay, draft pick, but he threw I

450
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 1: just know the name through for almost ten thousand yards

451
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Florida.

452
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 3: So okay, but I mean still, you bring him to

453
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,439
Speaker 3: camp and maybe he does nothing his rookie year or

454
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 3: gets in a little bit and practice squad them and

455
00:19:59,160 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 3: see what happened.

456
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the combine snub, Well it's Taylor Elgersma from uh Lourier.

457
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 3: I didn't know what would happen to him.

458
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing, so the combine invites go

459
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 1: out or they make the list up in December.

460
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 3: Hey, these guys need to know these things right.

461
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 1: And that.

462
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 3: Was pre uh just kind of dug him up.

463
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of a sudden, Oh he's at the Senior

464
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: Bowl and it's like, wow, this guy, this guy's got

465
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 1: a live arm.

466
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 3: Do you think he gets drafted. I'm gonna say yes, I.

467
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: Could see somebody using this late round draft pick on him.

468
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

469
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 1: There's there's stuff there that you in, the size and

470
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 1: the arm strength, and if he.

471
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 3: Ended up at Saint Vinnie's in a couple of months,

472
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind you know right, Yeah.

473
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 1: No, there's some talent there at running back. They're named

474
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,479
Speaker 1: to know is Ulysses Bentley from Mississippi, and what they

475
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: say is a highly rated prospect. Entering the season, Bentley

476
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: fell out of favor with head coach Lane Kiffin and

477
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: lost his starting job to Henry Henry Parris Junior. Still,

478
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: Bentley possesses plenty of traits that will appeal to NFL teams,

479
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: such as size, loose with this experience and high character.

480
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 3: Right, that sounds like a seventh round pick to me.

481
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

482
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: The combine also sounds like a special teamer to me, Yeah,

483
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 3: which is good.

484
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: Combine snub was Jacorey krossky Merrit from Arizona.

485
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 3: I'm surprised he didn't get invited. Yeah, but again, you

486
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 3: have too many running backs. Yeah.

487
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: If you thirty five draft lah or draft running or

488
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: running backs with draftable grades on him, you're going to

489
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 1: run out of spots.

490
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,479
Speaker 3: Thirty five running backs there.

491
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, receivers The name to no Bo Collins from Notre Dame.

492
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 3: Kay, well do you know about him?

493
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: Well, here's what they say, a somewhat forgotten man. Throughout

494
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 1: the course of the season, there were big expectations with Collins,

495
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: who transferred over from Clemson. He never became the consistent

496
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: deep threat that Notre Dame had hoped and struggled with

497
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 1: drop Sis, but did close out the season strong. Now,

498
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: some of that could also be Notre Dame's quarterback situation.

499
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: I am not a Leonard.

500
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: Fan as as I think he's staysom Hill. Yeah, yeah,

501
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: that might be what he is. Have something to do

502
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: with it, right, Yeah? And who knows who else was

503
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,160
Speaker 3: on the team.

504
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: And if you're you're a deep threat, it's like, Okay,

505
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback doesn't throw deep, It tucks it and runs.

506
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, laying it down.

507
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: Uh. The combine snub, as I mentioned Kyle Williams from

508
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: Washington State, I'm shocked by that.

509
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't help his cause at all. But may

510
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 3: there's more to it than we know.

511
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, you run out of spots with

512
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 1: you receivers. You can't have all of them there. Tight

513
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: end named to know Robbie OSTs from Alabama.

514
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: I don't know o u z t s Well, it

515
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 3: is a name.

516
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: I guess said. He's a throwback tight end. He's the

517
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: only full back Naha invited the Combine. But he's gonna

518
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: work out with the right Yeah, positions also lined up

519
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: with or at for the Crimson Tide. He's a hard

520
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: nosed blocker, projects as a Swiss Army knife, capable of

521
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 1: lining up at h back.

522
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: So's type. Yeah it sounds like okay.

523
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 1: Uh. The combine snub Caden at prickscorn from Mississippi.

524
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: I'm well shocked. Eating invite but deep to deep how

525
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 3: tight end glasses? Yeah.

526
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: The offensive tackle group. The name to know Branson Taylor

527
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: from Pitt Mmmm, a three year starter at left tackle,

528
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: team captain, has some medical stuff. He get hurt.

529
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: I think a decent chance to get drafted. Yeah.

530
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: I got hurt late in the season, so we'll see,

531
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: uh you know where where his medicals come out.

532
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: And that's not great for him, you know.

533
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to be honest, the Pitt offensive lineman, you

534
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: usually do pretty well. We usually eat pretty well at

535
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: the at the NFL.

536
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, corners and running backs and always do pretty well.

537
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: Uh. The combine snub Dalton Cooper from Oklahoma State.

538
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 3: I don't know him.

539
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: He was played in the East West Shrine Bowl, did

540
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: the Hula Bowl, but again that was all post Yeah,

541
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: easy stuff from logs. Well, this guy can actually play

542
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: but it was too late for the Combine.

543
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean again, there's good players don't get invited

544
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: to Combine sometimes.

545
00:23:54,800 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, guards named to know Marcus Tate from Clemson. He

546
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: was the first became the third true freshman in school

547
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: history to start the opening week of the regular season

548
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy two at Clemson. Yeah right wow, So yeah,

549
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: there's some injury stuff there. So again, the Combine big

550
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: for guys like that.

551
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be huge.

552
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: The Combine snub by Nash Jones from Texas State.

553
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 3: Doesn't drop me. A dude from Texas State got snubbed, but.

554
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: He played in the Shrine Bowl and yeah, okay, played

555
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: well in the Shrine Bowl.

556
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 3: So he's on the radar.

557
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: Center to know torres Selly Simpkins, the third from South Carolina.

558
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: It seems like a very poor center. Yeah, it's not

559
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: a great one.

560
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: But the Combine snub was a guy who was at

561
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, and that's Willie Lampkin from Coastal Carolina.

562
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to bring him up. He's the weirdest prospect.

563
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 3: Is he going to be recard? And he moves well

564
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: but he holds up pretty well too. I mean.

565
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: The play center at the NFL level.

566
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: He's not If he's not a a record type guy,

567
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 3: he can't do anything else.

568
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not gonna put him at guard. He certainly

569
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: can't put him at tackle. No.

570
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: But but I mean he was not bad and Senior

571
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 3: Bowl wasn't bad. Obviously understands leverage. I think he's got

572
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 3: a wrestling background. But he's five five tens. I mean

573
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: he really stands out.

574
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do have to be big enough to ride

575
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: to ride.

576
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like if Russell Wilson's taking STAPs fro him,

577
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: he's smart shorter than russ I mean that's crazy stuff.

578
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: You see that at all. I wonder if he's going

579
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 3: to be the recard full back type or whatever. Yeah.

580
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: The defensive side of things, defensive tackles. To know, Nazer

581
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: Stackhouse from Georgia is their first guy recruit. He's a nose.

582
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: He was a three year starter for Georgia, which is

583
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: says something. Yeah, but he's a nose.

584
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 3: Okay, I just know his name. I don't know much

585
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: about him.

586
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the combine snub Keyante Hamilton from Rutgers. Okay, again,

587
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: very deep by defensive tackle. Yeah, I mean that you're

588
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: a bunch of bunch of dudes defensive tackle. Same with

589
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: edge edge rushers. The names the know ash Ashton Gillette

590
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: from Louisville. Oh yeah, good player. I didn't realize he

591
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: was a two hundred and ten pound freshman and is

592
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: now two hundred and seventy pounds.

593
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: Was he an edge when he started or a lot

594
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: of those guys like they usual to take wide receivers

595
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: and tournament edge guys. Yeah, the speed off the edge.

596
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I was reading through this earlier. I'm

597
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: trying to think one of these guys was a tight

598
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: end that moved a defensive line or something.

599
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: That's not unusual either. He was bringing a bunch of

600
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 3: body type six four athletes played basketball and high school

601
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: type guys and figure out what to play them. Yeah.

602
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: Anyways, let's move on to linebackers named the note Carson

603
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: Brunner from Washington. That, of course is Mark Bruner's.

604
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 3: No is it okay?

605
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: So keep an eye on that and.

606
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 3: Cool. I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up at

607
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: Saint Vincent's at some point.

608
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: No, he had double digit tackles and four of his

609
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: final six games, finished up the season with one hundred

610
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: and four, great awareness, active hands. He had three interceptions

611
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: last year and is the son of Mark Brunner.

612
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, fatherly influenced. There you go.

613
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: Combine s expected to get drafted. Uh yeah, okay, Combine

614
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: snub Jacob Dobbs from James Madison.

615
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: I know a linebacker from there too.

616
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah right, let's see here. Moving on to cornerbacks, Isaiah

617
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: ISAs Waxter from Villanova is to name the no, I

618
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: don't know that name. Well, of course, Christian Benford came

619
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: out of there, and so they, you know, have some

620
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: dudes that have it's the worst program. He's got some length,

621
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: strong press man cover corner who was not tested much

622
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: all season, didn't allow a single touchdown last year because

623
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: nobody throws him, right, Yeah, you just ignore that side

624
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: of the field.

625
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: I told the story a million times. I mean that

626
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 3: years with Ducaine Lee Boden was one of our corners

627
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: who played in the league for like years. No one

628
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: threw the pass at them all year. Oh why don't

629
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 3: you ever? Yeah, he had the easiest you know, the

630
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: name day was so easy for him.

631
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: I believe the Combine snub by Glendon Miller out of

632
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: Maryland played some nickelback played some safety. Seven interceptions over

633
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: the last two years, so that's something name of I

634
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: remember Beanie Bishop was he was a combined snub, but

635
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't there.

636
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's a lot of them that ended up

637
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: having decent careers.

638
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, safety is to know. Andrew mccouba out of Texas.

639
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he moved here from Zimbabwe in the fifth grade.

640
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: Now I know, he's got a cool Backslore.

641
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: Became the first true freshman to start at Clemson since

642
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: the school began keeping track in nineteen seventy two. Finished

643
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: up his career at Texas.

644
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he'll be a mid round pick.

645
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: Combine snub Shamari Simmons from Arizona State, smaller cornerback. He

646
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: is a true slot and didn't get invited to the combine.

647
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys can get overlooked pretty easy.

648
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is you know, we get our safeties. No,

649
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: that's that's a different spot there.

650
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: Okay, that's uh. They I hope they don't long snappers, No,

651
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: they do not.

652
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's an interesting list. And yeah, just some

653
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: different names to what to look at their guys you

654
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: want to see it.

655
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: It's funny how this process works. Throughout the course of

656
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: the year. It's like the Senior Bowl like falls on

657
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: me fast. Like there's like one hundred names at the

658
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl and going, you know, like when I start

659
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: off knowing like half of them, and by the end

660
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: of the you know, deep into the process, I got

661
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: them all down and you know, pretty much into it.

662
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: And then the Combine comes around and there's three times

663
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Speaker 3: that amount and you're still got to go find names.

664
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Speaker 3: And the six seventh rounders, you know, I mean, so

665
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: those guys end up like what I know about him earlier,

666
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: I like them a lot. Yeah.

667
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: Again, three hundred and twenty nine guys get invited to

668
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: the Combine and they don't even take three hundred in

669
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Speaker 1: the draft, right well under.

670
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: Well under that, yeah, they take it. There will be

671
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: a few that aren't there the kid draft.

672
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Speaker 1: They get drafted, so you're gonna I mean, and then

673
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: you get you know, there's more than one hundred players,

674
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: easily more than a hundred plays. You're probably talking about

675
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: another two fifty to three hundred that get signed after

676
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: the draft.

677
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean everyone had every team has

678
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: at least ten give or take.

679
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

680
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

681
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: Last year the Steelers might have had like six because

682
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: is it that low?

683
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, they.

684
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Speaker 1: Had signed a bunch of guys to futures contracts.

685
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only three ninety two spots.

686
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: And then and then you have the guys that you

687
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: invite for tryouts to your rookie camp, your rookie camp,

688
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: and you get some guys that can get signed out

689
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: of that.

690
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: People be shocked with the process of like these guys

691
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: don't really fall through the cracks. It's almost impossible, I mean,

692
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: to totally get overlooked. You might not keep the right guy.

693
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: So I mean someone might go on to have a

694
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: great career that you had a camp and you didn't

695
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: think of play or you know, didn't get a huge

696
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: look at, but he was on on your wall. There

697
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: was a magnet of that guy. Yeah, you know, I

698
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: mean you at least on top of that stuff.

699
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, you can deep the James Harrison's or

700
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: the Wyatt Tellers.

701
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: You know, I bet that's not true like in baseball

702
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: and hockey though, because all the countries, oh you know

703
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: what I mean, like at least all through the cracks

704
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: in baseball especially, Yeah, I mean someone from Japan to

705
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico or whatever. I mean or in the middle

706
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: of nowhere Canada and hockey or Russia or something like.

707
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: I'm sure you could easily fall to.

708
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: Well, they go off and often play juniors and all that.

709
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: It's a little different. But yeah, yeah, the baseball in

710
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: little towns, I guess. But baseball would imagine, right, I

711
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: mean you look at that all the time, like see

712
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: it just coaching baseball guys that that should be playing

713
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: at a higher level than what they're getting recruited for

714
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: because nobody's seen them.

715
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: Nobody's seeing them.

716
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't go to all the different camps and

717
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: all this stuff.

718
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: I mean even in my day in recruiting, like we

719
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: recruited the state of New York, but not really because

720
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: it was really bad for football in New England. But

721
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: then't mean there wasn't a good player there. You know,

722
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: they're playing against bad football or you know, I mean

723
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: that you only had too much time to go in there.

724
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: No players from the w p i L, which is

725
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh area this year at the combine. I don't

726
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: know if that's ever happened.

727
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: That has to be a streak broken. That blows me away,

728
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: And thought of that.

729
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: Three hundred and twenty nine players there and none.

730
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: Are Whipio guys or Whipio guys. Huh. Maybe that is

731
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: the first time in our lifetime.

732
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: It's first time I know, since I've been going out

733
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: there that I can think of that there hasn't been somebody.

734
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we usually had somebody even just from the

735
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, the my area that.

736
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let alone Pittsburgh, right right. Wow, that's

737
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: amazing to me. I thought of that.

738
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: So local football needs to step it up, step it

739
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: up for absolutely or down here for them a few

740
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah yeah, right right, And that's you know,

741
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: so many of these guys now staying in school, which

742
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: leads me to the Carson Beck thing. Carson Back, who

743
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: of course transferred from Georgia Georgia to Miami, got four

744
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: million dollars to do to do so, and then I

745
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: own money. He was robbed last night, so I heard

746
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: somebody stole his Mercedes.

747
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: That stinks. And his Lamborghini is in Lambeau. That's insane.

748
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: You're college student, you're allege student. First of all, what

749
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: the hell do you need two cars for? True? I

750
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: wonder what he got coming out of high school.

751
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: He's probably made over ten million dollars in his.

752
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, yours made a couple of million coming

753
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: out of high school. Yeah, I mean he was the

754
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: top recruit in the country as a quarterback. Like what

755
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: arch get probably a ton? Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

756
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: it's not my money. I don't care. Do whatever you

757
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: want with it. But that is a little crazy, a

758
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: little crazy. Yeah.

759
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he had two cars stolen that.

760
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: Were worth more four more maybe maybe I don't know.

761
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: Those were just the one that used to get Yeah,

762
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, where do you you gotta park those

763
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: things somewhere?

764
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: You know, he is a pretty nice apartment probably whatever too.

765
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: I don't think he's living in the dorms.

766
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: He's living on South Beach somewhere.

767
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: You know as well.

768
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: If you again, why these guys don't come out?

769
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: They got a great live.

770
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: I'm making four million dollars to stay in college, all.

771
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: Right, right right, I bet he's a decent place.

772
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: You and I didn't get that money, and we stayed

773
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: in college longer than we were supposed to.

774
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 3: That would kick us a while.

775
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, let's get through a break. He is the

776
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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie, and this is the Drive

777
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and now we're back

778
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: to finish up the show right after.

779
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Speaker 2: This at least, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and

780
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of

781
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Speaker 2: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

782
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

783
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt just looking here at some of

784
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: the news and notes from around the league. Zach Martin

785
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: has told the Cowboys he plans to retire.

786
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 3: I think it's time. I mean, he started to decline,

787
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: He's had injuries. He's a free agent now. I didn't

788
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 3: really want to see him go to some other team,

789
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: and it'd be hard to bring him back if you're

790
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. Yeah, I mean I thought maybe he'd be like,

791
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: I don't go to the Chiefs. Okay, I mean I

792
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: would see that. But that's could be Franco of the Seahawks.

793
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Too, you know. Yeah, I mean I think he knows

794
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: his body and yeah, you know, he doesn't surprise starting

795
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: to break down a little bit.

796
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: He's older and like, okay, five years from now, Jones,

797
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: can't you've had.

798
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: A great career.

799
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's just he's the poster boy for Will Campbell's

800
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: that tackle in college Notre Dame, you know, first round

801
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: type guy. But should bump into garden be the best

802
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: guard in the league.

803
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was it. But yeah, I mean, great career.

804
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: But it does create another hole for the Cowboys.

805
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah it does. Yeah, their O line has a couple spots,

806
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: and they got two rookie starters last year, so that's

807
00:35:59,160 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: a start.

808
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that it doesn't even like like,

809
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't even help their camp situation.

810
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: Because he was already right, they really don't benefit at

811
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: all from it.

812
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: Right, Aiden Hutchinson. I don't know if you saw the

813
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: video of him running.

814
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: I knew there was one.

815
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it, but it wasn't He wasn't running hard.

816
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: He was running like three quarter speed. And he is

817
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: now favored to win both the Comeback Player of the

818
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: Year and Defensive Player of the Year.

819
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: I think he would have been Defensive Player of the

820
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: Year had they voted the day before he got hurt.

821
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't mean he would have finished the season.

822
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Said it was only like six weeks though. Yeah, I

823
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: mean he had like a monster like a five sack

824
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: game against something something like that, and he.

825
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: Was on fire to start the season. I don't think

826
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: he's better than Parsons, Watt, Garrett Bosa at his position. Yeah,

827
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: I mean I think he's fighting for number five or six.

828
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: I think Crosby over him. Still. I mean it's a

829
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: really good player, but yeah, I don't think he's elite. No,

830
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 3: nor do I mean comeback player of the year. Sure,

831
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: I'll put a buckle on that.

832
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: He's also been somebody who I believe talked to somebody

833
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: in the media and said, yeah, we'd love that Miles Garrett.

834
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: The Lions. Yeah, oh I bet why would you not? Yeah,

835
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: you know, I mean they've been looking for a bookend

836
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: for him, and then they were really hurting when he

837
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: was out. Yeah, I think that's a potential landing spot

838
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: for Garrett.

839
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what their cap situation is, whether they

840
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: think it's awful.

841
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it is either, And I don't

842
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: have a ton of big upcoming free agents of note.

843
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: I'm sure they could restructure golf and move some money around.

844
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: Their problems are like when gibb.

845
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: A couple of years. That's all the guys they've drafted.

846
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: Branch and all these dudes they've drafted lately, are all

847
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: going to come up about the same time.

848
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got fifty one million in cap space available

849
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: right now next season, but twenty twenty six, all of

850
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: a sudden, they have the third fourth fewest cap space

851
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: because and you're gonna have to start paying those all.

852
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: The Jack Campbell's and all those, all those that's the

853
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: three first picks.

854
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: That one year, they have twenty seven million in cap space,

855
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: which sounds like a lot, but they only have thirty

856
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: players under contract, okay, and a lot of those guys

857
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: are gonna be guys that are they're.

858
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: Their key guys, right, you don't want to lose any

859
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: of them now. But they're pushing their chips in. I

860
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: could see Garrett being alliant, and it would something to

861
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: be attracted to him too. Playing domes nice, you know,

862
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: as opposed to sloppy Browns, you know, the old and

863
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: all that just pass rush. I'm trying to think of

864
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: their free agents. Are Zeitler's up, but he's thirty five

865
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: or something, right, he's a guard. They've drafted some dudes,

866
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone else have noted major cornerback Davis Corn. Yeah,

867
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: but other than that, I mean they can withstand it. Yeah,

868
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: so that's a landing spot for Garrett.

869
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: Maybe, Yeah, potentially if they want to do that, and

870
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: you know, would they want to give up? What would

871
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: they give up?

872
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: That's while you're definitely giving up the late first twenty

873
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: six I believe it is, and I would say next year's.

874
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: Firstouldn't be on board with that. If I'm the Lions,

875
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up two firsts.

876
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: Rarely has two firsts and signing a guy ever worked

877
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 3: out in the NFL.

878
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing for the Browns too, Like, Okay,

879
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: the Lions are going to give us a first. It's

880
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: twenty six this year, but if we trade them Miles Garrett,

881
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Speaker 1: it might be thirty two next year.

882
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: Oh you're going to assume it's at least a playoff pick. Yeah,

883
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: I mean it could be thirty two, but probably late

884
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: twenties minimum. Yeah, I mean it's too late first. I

885
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Speaker 3: do that. If I'm a Browns.

886
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: They've had a bunch a bunch of double picks, let's see.

887
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: More than anybody I can remember. I mean there was

888
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: one year that they had three. Yeah, and they have

889
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: not been great with it. I think the Garrett year

890
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Speaker 3: they had two.

891
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look at the Browns draft history now,

892
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: the last three years or nothing, nothing, they haven't had

893
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. But they screwed up there

894
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: having you know, multiple first round draft pick.

895
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Richardson and Weed and so many of them. It's

896
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: the last time that that, It's been a little while.

897
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Speaker 1: Well, at twenty eighteen, they had no Number one and

898
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Speaker 1: they had number four. They took that Garrett, They took

899
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Denzil Yeah, yeah, which is okay. Yeah,

900
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: but I remember at the time saying, you took an

901
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: undersized quarterback at an undersized.

902
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: Corner in the top five. Yeah, they're both good players.

903
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: But I'd rather Allen one wasn't for the Browns.

904
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The year before that, in twenty seventeen, that was the

906
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Speaker 1: year they had three first I can remember, how been

907
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Speaker 1: the Joku year. That was Miles Garrett, Jabriel Pepper's, David

908
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: and Joku.

909
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: Okay, and anyone would have taken Garrett. I mean that

910
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: was an easy first overall pick. The Joku's worked out,

911
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: but it took a while. Took a while. Oh, but

912
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Speaker 3: they go all the way back to Trent Richardson.

913
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they in twenty fifteen, they had two first round

914
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Speaker 1: draft picks.

915
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: They took that Gilbert.

916
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: They took Danny Shelton at twelve and Cameron Irving at

917
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: nineteen oh.

918
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: Neither one was good. Ever, they had in.

919
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen two first round draft picks. They took Justin

920
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: Gilbert at eight Johnny Manzel at twenty two.

921
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: Both character issues too.

922
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, yeah, that was in that period, that time

923
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: period when they were trading, well, we're going to trade

924
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: for future picks, trade for future picks. I can remember

925
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: having that conversation with David Todd on the radio when

926
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: he was on nine to seventy, so I really like

927
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Speaker 1: what the Browns are doing. I'm like, at some point

928
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: you have to make the picks. You can't just keep

929
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: trading away future picks for future number ones. At some

930
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: point you actually have to make the picks, and they

931
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: have to be the right picks.

932
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: And like we just talked about with the Lions, I

933
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: mean I think they had three the one year too,

934
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 3: the Jack Campbell year, and they were all free agent

935
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: at the same time. If you do right, yeah, but

936
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: you can't pick up three fifth year options. It's hard

937
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: to pick up two fifth year options.

938
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Speaker 1: Twenty twelve, the Browns had two first round picks. Third overall,

939
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: they took Trent Richardson and then they took at twenty two,

940
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: which was actually not even his age, Brandon Waton, who

941
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: at that time was still older than Ben Roethlisberger.

942
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Speaker 3: I think it's twenty eight on draft. Yeah, he was

943
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: older than benan. They took them, right, did Richardson last

944
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: one year before they traded him to the Colts. They

945
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: didn't get a first round pick for they did, which

946
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: was a terrible pick by the trade by the Colts.

947
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: Awful.

948
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Speaker 3: Yeah, those were one year with them with the Browns.

949
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they also had in twenty two thousand and seven,

950
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: they had two first round picks. Took Joe Thomas at

951
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: third overall and Brady Quinn at twenty two. Okay, yeah, yeah,

952
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: they were the Kings of We're just going to take

953
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback late with our second pick. They hit on

954
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: none of them and hit on none of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and even like said Mayfield first overall didn't give

956
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Speaker 3: them a lot.

957
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've gotten that a lot on the message

958
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: board here. We got to do it like the like

959
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: the the Eagles did and get some future first round picks. Okay,

960
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: the Eagles traded quarterbacks. Yeah, you get first round people.

961
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Speaker 3: Will just give those away. I mean there's a reason

962
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 3: every team has their pick in this draft so far.

963
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: They're not big on giving way future pick.

964
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: No, especially not now with its cheap labor, right, and.

965
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Speaker 3: And people look towards this draft like it was going

966
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Speaker 3: to be great, and I don't if it is. Yeah.

967
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Speaker 1: So anyways, that's where we're at with all that stuff.

968
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Speaker 1: But yeah, Zach Martin retires that Martin, I'm kind of

969
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: surprised Tyron Smith hasn't also.

970
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: Also a free agent to be It's had a lot

971
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: of back injuries and a lot of stuff. He'd probably

972
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Speaker 3: be a Hall of Famer, as is. There's a couple

973
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Speaker 3: of guys up. I mean Kelsey, is he on his

974
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Speaker 3: way out? Yeah, Rogers. I mean there's this Hall of Fame.

975
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Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, your Hall of Fame class five years from them.

976
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think that. I thought there was

977
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Speaker 3: another name or two that might be retiring that are

978
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Speaker 3: an all time great too. Yeah, so I think Martin's

979
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Speaker 3: an easy Hall of Famer. Yeah, but I thought Luke

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Speaker 3: Keikley would be a Yeah, don't exactly approve how the

981
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame has done business the last five to

982
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Speaker 3: ten years.

983
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Speaker 1: Either they've changed the rules a little bit to adjust things,

984
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Speaker 1: and I don't think this works better.

985
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Speaker 3: Right if Louk can't get in with some of the

986
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: guys that did yeah, what are we doing here right?

987
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: Or Gates last year? Come on?

988
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But anyways, Matt, that's going to do it for

989
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Speaker 1: our show today, all right, do interesting one tomorrow and

990
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: then off to Indy. That first hour was all whittling

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Speaker 1: down our top twenty one.

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Speaker 3: It's a good exercise though. Yeah, it's a good thought.

993
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: You should try to And if you have a problem

994
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Speaker 1: with how we did this, and I'm sure if somebody do,

995
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: and I get that, put your own list together and

996
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: see how it comes out for you, because this is

997
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: what happens. Yeah, when they start sitting down to and

998
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: if you love shirt your Sanders, he should be third

999
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Speaker 1: on your list, second on your list.

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Speaker 3: School. That's fine. It's the quarterback, I understand it. Maybe

1001
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 3: you're bigger on the receivers or corners. I get it.

1002
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Speaker 3: You know that, and maybe wouldn't have any ol linement

1003
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Speaker 3: on there at all, or any tight ends.

1004
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: On or maybe you have all the offensive Lineman. Just

1005
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: depends on what's how you view things.

1006
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Speaker 3: It's hard to come up with twenty one names that

1007
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Speaker 3: you're real comfortable with.

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Speaker 1: It is it is this year for sure, and previous

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Speaker 1: years were like five guys I didn't get on my listen, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd be thrilled with Yeah. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: for Justin Miller here on site making sure that our

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Speaker 1: audio gets out there fine and everybody can hear us.

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Speaker 1: And for Tyler Viittmeyer, who's back from his little vacation

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Speaker 1: in Daytona. He's making sure our video gets out there

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Speaker 1: on the YouTube. I am Dale, Lolly. We thank you

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