WEBVTT - KERRY TYMCHUK: Find your place to serve

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<v Speaker 1>De Love. Hello everybody. I'm so glad you have joined

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<v Speaker 1>me on this podcast. Love someone with the Lai La.

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<v Speaker 1>Have so much fun doing these and they just keep

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<v Speaker 1>getting better and better in the conversations, more and more inspiring,

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<v Speaker 1>at least for me, hopefully for you too. The aim,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that we produce these podcasts, the motivation behind them,

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<v Speaker 1>is to help you to understand that everybody has a gift,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has a talent, everybody has a skill, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we can create something together that's bigger and better and

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<v Speaker 1>more amazing than your wildest dreams. If I can do it,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it. And our guest today on this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is someone who certainly used his gifts and talents

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<v Speaker 1>and skills to make this world a better place in

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<v Speaker 1>so many arenas. And it's like when he accomplishes one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of sitting there and basking in the glory, he

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<v Speaker 1>moves on to the next challenge and the next mountain

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<v Speaker 1>to climb. And I think you are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>entertained and inspired when you listen to my friend Carrie Timchuk,

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<v Speaker 1>who is our guest today. And I have known Carrie

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<v Speaker 1>for a very very very long time. I mentioned earlier

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<v Speaker 1>at lunch carry that my daughter Delilah Junior thinks I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, and since you were one year ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>me in school.

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<v Speaker 2>That would make me forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sticking with it.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going with that now in the studio with us,

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<v Speaker 1>but off microphone is my sister and your wife not

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<v Speaker 1>the same person, not the same person. No, my sister

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<v Speaker 1>Diana and your adorable wife Beck and there they're here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, just to make sure we tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Why what

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<v Speaker 2>fun is that with some occasional diversions, The truth as

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<v Speaker 2>we remember it, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Truth is I remember it exactly. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking with Kerry Timcheck first that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>stop to talk about my sponsor, my wonderful, fabulous sponsor

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<v Speaker 1>More saving, more doing in the studio with my friend

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie Timcheck. So we grew up together in a very

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<v Speaker 1>small town in Oregon. And there's a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>things come out of red Sport, a lot of good things.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Aaron Dunn who worked on Broadway and now is

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<v Speaker 2>in California. Just a lot of good talented people from Readsport.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a great public school system. Did you know

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<v Speaker 2>my late mother, of course, who was probably the best

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<v Speaker 2>teacher in the district, if I say so myself.

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<v Speaker 1>She won Oregon Teacher through the Year the year. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have that in your little history things that the

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon historically.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have it every everyday.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to fix that carry. So I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>across the field from you. Yes, when we grew up

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<v Speaker 1>there was no house. There was a field that was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Can baseball, football, kickball, Yeah, you name it, we played it.

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<v Speaker 1>We played it in that field. Rode Bikes road bikes

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<v Speaker 1>played in the dirt, and right across from my window

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<v Speaker 1>was Keith's window, your brother who.

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<v Speaker 2>You occasionally flirted with.

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<v Speaker 1>Occasionally now and again, and your folks who were amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was blessed with wonderful parents. My dad was owned

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<v Speaker 2>a small grocery store as you know, and Readsport and

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<v Speaker 2>was mayor of the town for eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>And then your brother grew up and was a mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>There was the mayor too, and my mother was everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>favorite school teacher. But they were very involved in the

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<v Speaker 2>community and gave back, which I think was what inspired

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<v Speaker 2>me to want to give back to my community. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite quotes is the late Oregon Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Tom McCall who once said that heroes are not giant

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<v Speaker 2>statues framed against a red sky. They are individuals who say,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my community and it's my responsibility to make

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<v Speaker 2>it better. And my parents were heroes, and reid Sport

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<v Speaker 2>was blessed with a lot of heroes back then who

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<v Speaker 2>gave themselves, who gave their time. We were talking some

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<v Speaker 2>at lunch today of Jim and Marrionnwell's who are teachers

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<v Speaker 2>of ours and their heroes too, because they still in

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<v Speaker 2>the retirement give back to the community.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what we're going to talk about today. You

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<v Speaker 1>and your wife don't just give back to the community

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<v Speaker 1>as in the neighborhood you live in. You give back

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<v Speaker 1>to the community, the state you were born in, and

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<v Speaker 1>our nation and the world at large. And you raised

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<v Speaker 1>your children with that same ethic, that same core belief

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<v Speaker 1>in giving back. And that's what this whole podcast is about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to pick your brain here and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell some amazing stories because you have had

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<v Speaker 1>such a colorful, wonderful, amazing journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's been fun for a kid from Readsport, as

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<v Speaker 2>I say, and just a quick, you know, one minute

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<v Speaker 2>thumbnail sketch. After high school Readsport High School, Go Braves

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<v Speaker 2>went to Wallama University in Salem, Oregon, where I went

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<v Speaker 2>to college in law school. And because my dad was mayor,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I had developed at early age and interest

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<v Speaker 2>in politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, wait, wait wait, you are the line leader, Harry.

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<v Speaker 1>And like kindergarten, in first grade.

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<v Speaker 2>I ran for line leader. I campaigned for leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>And in high school you ran our high school. So

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<v Speaker 1>with some help from others, so you included. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was more the entertainment section. I mean, I was in

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<v Speaker 1>high school politics. I held several offices, but my job, really,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt, was to entertain this school.

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<v Speaker 2>And you did a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a stage I need to be on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had so much fun. But I remember your

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<v Speaker 1>campaign speeches from like eighth grade.

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<v Speaker 2>They worked most of the time, all of.

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<v Speaker 1>The time time you won every election you ever ran for.

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<v Speaker 2>And after when I was at Wellambat, I worked in

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<v Speaker 2>the state capitol which is across the street for a

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<v Speaker 2>family friend who was in the state legislature there. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I first year ot of law school, I was

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<v Speaker 2>a deputy district attorney prosecuting criminals in Marion County, which

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<v Speaker 2>is Salem. And then I went back to Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>For one year. I told myself had potomac fever. I

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<v Speaker 2>got hired to work for a congressman from Moregan worked

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<v Speaker 2>for him for about two and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years, so much for the one year play yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then through good fortune, I fell in with Elizabeth Dole,

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<v Speaker 2>who was then Secretary of Labor for the first President Bush,

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<v Speaker 2>and she hired me as her speech writer, which added

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<v Speaker 2>another couple of years. And then when she went to

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<v Speaker 2>become president of the American Red Cross. Her husband Bob Dole,

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<v Speaker 2>who was the leader of the Senate, hired me to

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<v Speaker 2>be his speechwriter and do some legal council stuff for him.

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<v Speaker 2>And that took me six more years back there.

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<v Speaker 1>So and how many books did you write? What the Doles?

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<v Speaker 2>I've helped the Dolls with four books, most since coming

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<v Speaker 2>back to Oregon. But he, of course is blessed with

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<v Speaker 2>the best sense of humor in Washington, D C. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's still in ninety six. He's going strong. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a World War Two veteran. He goes down

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<v Speaker 2>to the World War Two Memorial almost every weekend and

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<v Speaker 2>sits and greets the veterans coming in to see the

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<v Speaker 2>World War Two Memorial Wow, which is amazing. So eleven

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<v Speaker 2>years in Washington, D C. And then returned to Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety seven and was twelve years as the

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon Chief of staff to a fellow named Gordon Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>who was you Oregon's US Senator for twelve years and

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<v Speaker 2>who you know now, Delilah as the CEO of the

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<v Speaker 2>National Association of Broadcasters.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not, it's so funny because when I

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<v Speaker 1>met him at an event at a radio of and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, oh, I hear your neighbors with Carrie. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know that as well? We've worked together

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<v Speaker 1>for quite a while now.

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<v Speaker 2>So when Gordon went to the broadcasters after leaving the Senate,

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<v Speaker 2>and I became the executive director of the Oregon Historical Society,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a nonprofit in Oregon which runs the Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>History Museum. And every state has a equivalent. Washington has one,

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<v Speaker 2>California has when you name it, they have a historical society,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're the guardians of Oregon's history.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold that thought, Carrie. We're going to take a moment

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<v Speaker 1>here to hear from one of our sponsors, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we will be back with Carrie. Timchak Back with Carrie,

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<v Speaker 1>Timchak on love Someone with Delilah and we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>over lunch, and I want to get into this a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit because I'm so proud of you. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>want to color history or only to show one one truth.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I are that way. It's a I'm that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I never let the truth interfere with a good story,

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<v Speaker 1>but when it comes to history, it's important to know

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<v Speaker 1>the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to tell the truth. And we just opened

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<v Speaker 2>up a new permanent exhibit, four million dollars, all privately

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<v Speaker 2>raised to tell the Oregon story, the good, the bad,

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<v Speaker 2>and the ugly. And there's a spoiler alert, there's some ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some really not just an Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>History, but in every state's history. You know, think that

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon is now a very progressive, liberal state, but back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, not so much. And we tell that story.

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<v Speaker 2>We tell the story of every ethnic group. Everyone needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to find their history, their true history

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<v Speaker 2>in the Orgon Historical Society. Whether you were a Native

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<v Speaker 2>American or the grandsons of pioneers or Vietnamese immigrant family

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<v Speaker 2>that moved there three months ago, you all should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to find your true story. And that's what we

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<v Speaker 2>try to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>And if the history is bad or awful or embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 2>well then you learn from that. But you have to

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<v Speaker 2>you can't hide it. You got to tell the story.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've had some people who've gone through the exhibit

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<v Speaker 2>tell me, well, that makes me feel guilty. I say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're not responsible for what happened one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, but you're responsible for knowing what happened one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred years ago and for not repeating it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you and your bride are also involved in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of charities and a lot of organizations and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of boards.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife is chairman of the beaverd And school Board.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, when you're chairman of the school board, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a volunteer job, so that's kind of a full time

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<v Speaker 2>volunteer job. And I've been involved a special a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time with Special Olympics Oregon, which you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get more of a life changing organization and Special

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<v Speaker 2>Olympics to see the difference it makes in the lives

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<v Speaker 2>of the kids within mutual disabilities and in the lives

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<v Speaker 2>of the kids who help them out. It transforms them

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it transforms the kids who do not have

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<v Speaker 1>unique dis abilities even more absolutely so. You had a

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<v Speaker 1>blessing at birth and that your parents. I marvel at

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<v Speaker 1>how your parents were so committed to our community. There

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<v Speaker 1>was not an event that your dad wasn't at a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting for, whether it was city council or school board meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>or we had the Fleet Days parade that they always

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<v Speaker 1>participated in and building the floats. Your mom was always

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<v Speaker 1>always there helping us to do all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you were kind of raised with that environment

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<v Speaker 1>or that legacy of community and giving back. But what

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<v Speaker 1>about people who didn't have that kind of foundation. What

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<v Speaker 1>would you say to them, Carrie today, Just.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you didn't have that as a role model

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<v Speaker 2>from your family, then you need to find a role model,

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<v Speaker 2>or you can be the role model for future generations.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to have had a mother and a

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<v Speaker 2>father who or who were committed to making a difference

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<v Speaker 2>to want to make a difference yourself. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>admit I was blessed because of that, But even if

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<v Speaker 2>they hadn't been involved, maybe there's something in me would

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<v Speaker 2>have been you know, there's a there would have been

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<v Speaker 2>a light that would have driven me to want to

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<v Speaker 2>help people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's your personality.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think a lot of it does come from

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<v Speaker 2>growing up in a small town where you can make

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<v Speaker 2>a difference. The former Oregon governor Barbara Roberts, who was

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<v Speaker 2>the organ's first woman governor, she told a story one

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<v Speaker 2>time about people growing up in small towns where when

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<v Speaker 2>there's a parade, you build a float and then you

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<v Speaker 2>ride in the float, and you ride in the parade.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when you move to a big city, you

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<v Speaker 2>might become overwhelmed. But what you need to do is

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<v Speaker 2>still build the float right in the float, right in

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<v Speaker 2>the parade. Even a big city, there's a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>make a difference as well, which is what I've tried

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<v Speaker 2>to do going from Reedsport to Washington, c To Portland.

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<v Speaker 2>Just adjust accordingly.

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<v Speaker 1>So we always thought you would be running for president

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<v Speaker 1>one day.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows who in America has won Jeopardy not once,

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<v Speaker 1>not twice, not three times, but four time champion.

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<v Speaker 2>Now not Jeopardy James. I didn't do as well.

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<v Speaker 1>As he did, but how many did he win?

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<v Speaker 2>He ended up winning over twenty five or thirty or so.

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<v Speaker 1>Still floor is pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>But politics, and frankly, Delaila, I thought that you're right

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<v Speaker 2>that I would end up printing for office. That was

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<v Speaker 2>always my plan once I became fascinated with politics, to

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<v Speaker 2>come back from Washington, d C. To find a community,

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<v Speaker 2>to be a lawyer, to get involved, and maybe one

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<v Speaker 2>day to run for office. And ended up not doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>partially because I was fortunate enough and to see it

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<v Speaker 2>at the level I got to see it at, but

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<v Speaker 2>also because I think I decided that I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>the personality for modern day warfare politics, with all that

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<v Speaker 2>the backstabbing and the name calling and the partisanship that

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<v Speaker 2>has now enveloped politics, especially in this time. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people now are Republicans first and American second,

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<v Speaker 2>or Democrats first and American second, and it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be switched. They need to be Americans first, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you're a party. But the parties have almost become cults

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<v Speaker 2>in some way, where you listen to the party first

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<v Speaker 2>and take orders from your party, whether doing what you

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<v Speaker 2>really believe in.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to get to vote for you

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<v Speaker 1>someday for president.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, and that's going to happen so anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I did run, my wife with divorce me,

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<v Speaker 2>so that would we don't doubt know so. But somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in that vast spectrum, people should give back to their community,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's running for the school board as my wife did,

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<v Speaker 2>or just getting involved in the local rotary or Lions

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<v Speaker 2>or any of those clubs. Go to town halls, become

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<v Speaker 2>involved and speak up. The problem I think with politics

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<v Speaker 2>now is that the fringes are the loudest and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the vast group in the middle who are silent. Civility

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<v Speaker 2>and decency still matter. That's the two most important qualities

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<v Speaker 2>I think of public servants are civility, decency, honesty.

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<v Speaker 1>Compassion, compassion, politeness.

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<v Speaker 2>Politeness, and those seemed to be in short supply. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me turn the tables and interview Delilah for a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the biggest lesson you took from growing up

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<v Speaker 2>in a town like Wheatsburg? Because the town is so

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<v Speaker 2>proud of you, and it all started out at Katieu

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<v Speaker 2>in in fourteen seventy and Readsport, Oregon, and your brother

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<v Speaker 2>was on the air. He was on the air too,

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<v Speaker 2>so but so what's the lesson you learned?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't. I did not appreciate or respect

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<v Speaker 1>or value all the gifts we were given in that

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<v Speaker 1>little town until my brother disappeared. Eight years after I graduated.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother, your friend he went to high school with, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>disappeared in a plane accident, and the town turned out

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<v Speaker 1>in droves to help for him and his wife, and

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<v Speaker 1>the town never stopped searching. I mean, Duncan Jones, a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of ours, went year after year instead of taking

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<v Speaker 1>time off, you know, for a vacation. He took time

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<v Speaker 1>off and went and looked for my brother's plane. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was that experience, And it was seeing the casse

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<v Speaker 1>Roles show up at the house, you know, somebody would

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<v Speaker 1>knock at the door and there would be a box

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<v Speaker 1>of hot food left there. That was when it clicked

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<v Speaker 1>for me what a blessing I had been given, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as my career took off and I people like,

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<v Speaker 1>well when did you get your start? I was fourteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Where else but in a tiny town do you have

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<v Speaker 1>people like Steve Kanegian, Jerome Kannagian, Wes Locker that say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a fourteen year old can come in, we'll teach you

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<v Speaker 1>how to use the microphone and the equipment. And so

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<v Speaker 1>from the time Matt's plane went down until today, I

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<v Speaker 1>just grow more and more appreciative of what a blessed

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<v Speaker 1>community we had.

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<v Speaker 2>And one thing I learned, every community has the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing you name the city. There are people like that

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<v Speaker 2>who are blessed with people who who want to be heroes,

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<v Speaker 2>who want to make a difference, and that has to continue.

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<v Speaker 2>People have got to continue to be involved in too,

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<v Speaker 2>want to make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what we're trying to do is get people involved,

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<v Speaker 1>get them to raise their hands, say I'll go, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go to the student you know, school board meetings. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a Girl Scout volunteer.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. There's an old joke that the word volunteer comes

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<v Speaker 2>from two Latin words, vollin, meaning to knock oneself out,

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<v Speaker 2>and tier meaning without pay. So that's to knock yourself

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<v Speaker 2>out with that. Okay, yes, but God bless volunteers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what my kids say, Oh no, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>come on Saturday. I've been voluntold.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to steal that one, fair and square from you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can use that. No, you're volunteered this week

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<v Speaker 1>to go help out. That I think for me is

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<v Speaker 1>the key is making sure that my kids continue that

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<v Speaker 1>legacy of love and of hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get more than you give by volunteering. There's

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<v Speaker 2>just no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie tim Chek, thank you for being here on our podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Love Someone with Delilah. If you'd like to hear more

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<v Speaker 1>about Carrie or from Carrie, google his name k E

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<v Speaker 1>R R Y t ym c h UK. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>great information, some great interviews. I know you're going to enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you find yourself in Portland, Oregon, stop in at

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<v Speaker 1>the Oregon Historical Society. You could say that Carrie followed

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<v Speaker 1>a few dozen whispers in his heart, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it comes down to having what is called in the

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<v Speaker 1>book Dare to Matter, a prepared heart. His family were

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<v Speaker 1>never ones to sit on their hands or wait for

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<v Speaker 1>change to happen. They modeled passion and involvement to Carrie

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<v Speaker 1>and his brother Keith, who have in turn modeled it

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<v Speaker 1>to their family and children. I'm proud to call Carry

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. I hope this story has inspired you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>What things have you wanted to do and yet have

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<v Speaker 1>not approached, have not raised your hand, have not said yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me try that. Start from a small idea, from

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<v Speaker 1>that small seed, and let it grow and blossom into

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<v Speaker 1>something big and beautiful, one heart at a time.