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That's it. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.679 Let's let's get into the episode. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:19.720 Welcome to the solid verbal. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:21.600 Ill that for me. 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.720 I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:26.640 I want to be happy. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.040 You want to be happy for day at the steak? 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:29.560 Is that? 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:30.400 Woo whoo? 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.160 And no, Dan and Tie. 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.759 Good today and welcome to the solid verbal. My name 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.840 is Dan Rubinstein. Ty Hilton Brands is not on the 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.400 line because and I quote, I'm actually not quoting, but 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.800 he is cleaning out his old place now that he 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.080 has moved into a new place. And you know the 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.920 rigors of being Tie. I wouldn't I wouldn't wish it 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.520 on the worst enemies. So Tye is absent to I 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:04.360 promise you he will be here moving forward. I actually 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.480 I can't make that promise, but I'm really hopeful that 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.600 he is, because he's extraordinarily talented and I miss him. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.840 But the good news is I I was almost going 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.600 to say, we I have Adam Kramer from Bleacher Reports. 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.160 We're going to talk about win total over unders. We're 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.840 going to he just did a story about Tala Tonga Valoa, 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.000 who is the little brother of Tua Toangua Valoa, obviously 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:30.560 a budding Alabama quarterback, Hawaiian dynasty, whatever. But he just 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.520 did a really good feature on the two of them, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.519 particularly Talia for Bleacher Report. He also just wrote about 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:39.600 Christian Wilkins, the star defensive lineman for Clemson. So we're 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.519 going to talk a little bit about that. And then 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.880 you have asked so many good questions and we have 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.919 so many strong opinions, and I assume Adam has strong 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:52.360 opinions because he's from a colder place in Chicago about summer. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.840 Just not summer conditioning for players, not summer HighRes, nothing, 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:03.200 nothing like that. Just summer living, vacations, beach etiquette, pool etiquette, 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:07.919 food grilling, shirtlessness, that's right, shirtlessness. So we have all 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.160 sorts of things to get into with Adam. I'm positive 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.320 he has wise opinions. So look forward to that because 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.679 that's happening in a few seconds. 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Bleacher Report national college football writer. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.520 Been doing a really nice job with features this year. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.200 So let's why am I oways sting your time. Let's 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.440 just get into that. And with that, I am now 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.920 joined by Bleacher Reports Adam Kramer, Kegs and Eggs on Twitter, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.479 k egs n e ggs. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:05.920 Is that right? 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.400 Is that still a thing? I don't even know if 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:08.560 I see your name anymore? 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:09.599 I am. 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.440 I've thought about changing it because the blog I'm getting, 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.480 like the domain notices right now from like my own 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.120 little blog, like what are you doing? Your site is 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.760 now like infested with malware and growing. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.680 Leads, So I've thought about changing it. I don't know, 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:26.960 it's kind of who I am. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.359 I guess like I'm with you. I'm sort of indifferent, 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.359 so I'll keep it for now. So that is a 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.799 very long winded answer saying yes, that is still my Twitter, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:35.039 I know. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.160 And to get everything straight, because you've been writing features 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:42.599 for Bleacher Reports, what is your official title at bleacher Report? 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.440 Because you've been doing a fantastic job. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.000 I appreciate that. I actually I think it's National college 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.160 Football writer. That's a good question. We're a guy. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.159 No, yeah, I think national college football writer at bleacher Report. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.360 Awesome. And you just wrote You've r in a couple 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.359 of features that I think have gotten a good amount 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.680 of traction sort of spring, late spring, early summer. And 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.880 the most recent one you wrote was about the tongue 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.359 of Iiloa and I'm almost positive I pronounced that correctly 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.920 the brothers specifically, is it tau Leia? 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:16.880 Yeah, to Leah, tell me you believe me. 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:21.440 Pronunciation within the family has taken me basically since and 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.919 I'm still butchering it since January eighth, right like since 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.560 all of a sudden, like on January ninth, when people 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.080 are doing radio interviews, like all these sports people, they. 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.320 Had no idea because they did not see any of 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:32.799 this coming. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.560 So yes, we're still trying to learn the name, and honestly, 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.120 like I think we know the situation. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.200 Now about you're not going to talk to Tua right now, 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:42.920 You're just. 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.000 Not going to talk to it. Nick Saban's gonna no 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.560 thank you, like with the quarterback race, like that's just 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.279 not happening. So it was like, Okay, how could you 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:51.880 tell this story. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.960 In a unique way? And I kind. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.440 Of pitched this idea to my editor like five days 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:03.240 after the National Wild to come to be and honestly 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.440 getting with the family as you know this too, man 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.480 like with the projects, like the access points in this 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.040 is probably the hardest part. 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.120 Right Like, this is a family whose life like. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.400 Just changed dramatically, like in an instant, and they're being 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.560 bombarded with just people wanting to talk to them. So 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.360 trying to position this in a way where it wasn't 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:24.160 going to be like. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.080 More continued coverage of Tua because I could get a 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.040 sense that honestly they're good on that, but give. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.760 A little shine of light on kind of the family sacrifices, 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.000 if you will. And then yeah, this little bro who 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.120 you know who is there that night and you think 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:39.760 how it's going to change Tua. You think how it's 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.240 going to change the family in Alabama. But like, here's 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.200 a kid who's been like in this into a shadow 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.040 of his whole life, and all of a sudden, like 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.560 in thirty seconds, it's like his life, the perception of 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.040 him will never be the same simply because of like 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:54.760 football osmosis. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:55.200 You know what I mean, right? 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.800 And they're not the first set of brothers to play 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:03.160 quarterback in spotlight and come after one another. Although you know, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:08.239 I was thinking about recent notable brothers to both play 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:12.200 at least high ish level college football, the Rogers, the Vicks, 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.720 the Cars, A lot of them were separated I think 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.400 by more years. I know the cars are about ten 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.720 years apart. In the case of like Carson Palmer and 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.720 Jordan Palmer or the Clawsons, they played at different schools 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:29.080 or different level schools. What is the dynamic at such 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:33.600 a spotlight place coming so quickly? Is their worry that 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:38.360 it's almost too much for two kids from four thousand 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.400 miles away, displaced with their family to I assume a 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.000 very different part of the world. I haven't really been 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.000 spent a lot of time where they are from, in 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.800 Hawaii or Alabaster, Alabama. But what is the dynamic with 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.600 that sort of instant double spotlight. 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.240 Well, it's a great question. And the interesting thing in 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.240 this is when I was talking about Tua, it was 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.480 like I was talking about a twenty five year old man. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.719 This is like, you know, like this is a sophomore 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.280 or going to be a sophomore who has not been 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:13.760 named the starter yet and perception wise, however, because of 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.520 the magnitude of that night, it feels a lot different. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.720 It did for me. I mean even writing it, naturally. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.079 I had to curb it a bit because it's like, 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.640 wait a second, man, this kid's just a baby in himself. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:30.120 So the dynamic, but the dynamic between everyone is extremely 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.040 This is a great family. I mean, this is a 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:36.120 really good family who has clearly is kind of leaning 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.480 on each other during what is it obviously an amazing time, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.280 but there is a burden that comes with us as well. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.880 And they used to turn blessing quite a bit to 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:49.360 his dad, mister Chekavaloa, and everybody is thrilled with where 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:53.000 they are, but also like getting recognized at a Walmart 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:57.280 and Alabama being asked to take photos like if you're 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.920 a junior in high school or you know, a dad 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.800 who's just kind of wanting to watch your kid. Like 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.000 that's there's a weight to all that, and that's only 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.400 going to get more so as this progresses, and this 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.679 will progress. But in terms of the you know, the 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:14.440 dynamic between the two, I think also like virtualia now 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:18.080 and he's committed to Alabama, Like there's pressure in that decision, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.880 Like if he don't commit to Alabama, what's wrong? You 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.400 know if you commit somewhere else and think, oh, man Trader, 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.800 you know you could impact to it. So everything they 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.600 do in this this in this area, specifically in this 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.840 day age where like recruiting is it, you know, recruiting 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:34.199 is that is what we're. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.560 Most interested in? Is has a spotlight on it. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.240 And you're right, there is a weight to all that. 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.319 But it does seem like they are equipped to handle it. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.000 Do you in your estimation as a non college coach 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.800 is a non scout, as a non high school coach, 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:53.200 is there a sense that his value is being inflated 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.240 because of his brother's value, not to say he is 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.200 a you know, overrated or anything like that. Is it 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.880 hard to sep rate when his brother has these accomplishments 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.719 and you know, it's very easy to project well, like, well, 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.120 his brother has these gifts and this work ethic, and 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.800 this natural talent and personality, so we are projecting his 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.160 younger brother to be very similar. Do you do you 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:19.400 get that sense that you know, people are overreaching to 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.480 a certain extent based on that or is it just 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.320 they had both happened to be extremely talented? 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.040 You know, that's another really good question. I went into 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.480 this full transparency thinking that was the case. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.400 I went into this story thinking, Okay, this is the 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.840 number eight ranked quarterback in the country. 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.120 He's what six', one he's getting that last name. Bump 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.679 and AS i dug into this, MORE i actually almost 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.160 think it could be the opposite here in the next few. 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.480 Weeks and, look this time of the year in the 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.560 recruiting world is kind of hugely. Influential this is like 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.600 the time that to his profile. Exploded you've got to lee, 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.400 eleven you've got the opening and two had just like 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.080 owned those events like he was. Incredible SO i talked 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.880 to a lot of recruiting people about. THIS i talked 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:01.600 to coaches about. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.200 This in, TRUTH i don't think the recruiting people have 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.800 a real sense of what he is just YET i 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.080 do know that from an, athlete like an athletics, side 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.080 he's not to like, that and that's not a knock 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.280 like they you, Know June, jones who coached these kids In, 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:21.160 hawaii which was hilarious and wonderful conversation in terms of 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.480 college football, randomness you know said two was probably the 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.400 best running back In hawaii as. Well salea is. Different 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.640 but you talk to people and they say. That you, 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.760 know there's three college coaches that mentioned that he's probably 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.720 got the quickest release they've ever. Seen, now quick release 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.440 doesn't mean it's going to go where you want it to, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:38.719 go but it's a. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.760 Start so As i've actually. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.520 Talked to people a little bit more AND i look 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.160 to lead, eleven all this, stuff the next month is 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.199 probably going to dictate. THIS i actually think his profile could, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.760 increase and there's no question who he is and who 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.360 his brother is plays a role in. That but it 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.480 ALSO i also think that maybe his skill set during 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.000 a year when the quarterbacks are clearly not as defined 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.400 they were last. Year like last, year the last couple 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.600 of years have been. Insane when it comes to this 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.480 this year a little bit, DIFFERENT i actually think he 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.600 could have a chance to increase a bit when it 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:09.480 comes to his recruiting. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.400 Profile and you also recently wrote a piece before we 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.880 get into some win totals About Christian, wilkins who of 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.360 course is the anchor Of clemson's defensive, line made a 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.839 big decision to come back and leads an, interesting if 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.760 not unusual life off the field for The. Tigers what 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.240 was it THAT i think separated where you saw that 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:33.240 separated him in terms of who he's, become perhaps from 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:39.760 other well regarded junior senior defensive line, prospects anchor as, leaders. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:44.000 Etc SO i feel LIKE i usually have a pretty good. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.640 Thermometer i'm not a, scout but WHEN i see a 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.000 guy Like, okay that guy's going to translate to THE. 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.000 Nfl maybe not, quarterbacks but a guy Like Christian, WILKINS 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.200 i would assume would be, want you, know there'd be some, 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.199 interest like tons of interest from THE. Nfl and WHEN 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.240 i found out that they're thinking second round, PICK i 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:02.880 know that Shocked. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.560 DAVOL i know that shocked. Him it certainly shocked. Me 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.560 AND i mean we watched these. Games he's, everywhere he's catching, 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.320 passes he's on, BLOCKS i, mean he does everything like. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.920 This is like the prototype of a defensive line you 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:15.280 can move. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.800 Around you find out that's not the, case and clearly 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:18.800 he was not thrilled with. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.440 That so he comes back to. School he's already. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.400 GRADUATED i mean that was kind of what made this 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.760 sort of, formality and he walked with the seniors on senior. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.080 Day you, know this was, done and then all of a, sudden, 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.000 boom he's. Back he's trying to get his master's you 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.360 know in. Here but When dabo just kind of slipped 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.240 after practice and said, yeah he's substitute, teaching right, AWAY i. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.480 KNEW i was, like, okay let's do. This let's go down. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:48.400 There you, know my wife's a. Teacher i've always had 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.800 a lot of love and respect for that, profession specifically with. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:53.920 Kids and the fun. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.200 Part in talking To christian about, this and the wope, 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:57.720 originally by the, way was THAT i was going to 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.280 sit in on one of his. CLASSROOMS i, WAS I, 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.400 will really wanted that to worked. Out it, Didn't but 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.840 was talking with him about his passion with young, people 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.200 AND i, mean, honestly in terms of my respect for, 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.920 him when he shared a story about working with like a, 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.680 nonverbal you know child with autism for a day and 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:17.720 the impact it's had on. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.160 Him you, know get my, wife specialized, teacher like that 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.360 hit me. Hard that's as hard As i've. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:26.000 Been hit in an interview during a, while and talking 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.320 about you know it with such, Admiration SO i think 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.040 you get different perspectives of. 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.040 Him, look he had that play Against Ohio state where 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.600 he got a little, handsy you. Know you, know he's 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.440 a guy that's been very. Volatile he did the. 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.840 Splits, like there's all these different perceptions of, him but 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.880 when you actually sit down and speak to, him he's all, 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.520 Academic he does all these. THINGS i just find him 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.240 as a truly insightful. Guy and the fact that he's 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.440 taking his time now and using it to just make 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.760 a few extra bucks and work with, kids like that's just. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.960 Cool you, Know like you just don't hear a lot of, 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:00.720 that you, know especially when a guy like that should 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:01.520 probably be playing in THE. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.360 Nfl one of the. Things and we've done this in the, 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.880 past but, now obviously it takes on a new meaning 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:11.960 with a recent court. Decision is Gambling. Now, obviously as 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.320 people who cover the, sport we are keenly aware of 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:19.680 lines and perceptions and odds and preseason. Stuff but when 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.280 you saw the news and know that it's obviously going 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.360 to be dependent on the state for sports, gambling and 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.600 THE ncaa has you, know sort of been a little 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.360 bit weird about, things But i'm not sure they have 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.760 that much of a voice about. It do you get 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.520 the sense just in you, know whatever it is social 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:38.440 media talking to people that just fans are going to 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:43.680 gamble more if their state allows for things to pass 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.880 through in that, state or is there an idea in 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.360 your head that, like the people who liked wagering before 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.760 will keep wagering and the people who didn't probably won't 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:53.440 see a big. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.280 Uptick i'm somewhere in the, middle AND i do think 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:02.680 that maybe this decision is way has overblown Because team out. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:07.119 Forever that doesn't mean it's not a hugely, important impactful 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.800 decision that's probably ultimately going to trickle down into the 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.840 way we consume games live and the way that the 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.679 way we're expected to watch, games and our interest in. 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.760 IT i like, baseball but if you allow me to 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.080 sit in the baseball stadium and do live betting on 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.639 every at that with kind of micro, Wagers i'm going 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:26.600 to go to more baseball. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.080 GAMES i, will you, know, Like so that's just the 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:34.400 reality in terms of you, know, betting you know. BEHAVIOR 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.919 i think the really interesting thing about this, is you, 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.639 know with a lot of betting, now whether you're betting 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.159 with a bookie or, whoever your credit is. Good you 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:45.159 don't have to hurt money up. 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.800 Front you can you can you can wait to pay 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.800 your guy if you have. To that's not the case with, 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.359 everybody but this is this is definitely going to be 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.800 a huge win for the casual better for the guy 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.760 like me who on A saturdays will go to the horse. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.159 Track we'll go To arlington, here you, know At Arleko, 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.600 heights we'll sit, down have a, beer throw some bucks. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.520 AROUND i think you'll start to get that kind of 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.160 behavior from the casual. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.720 Guys SO i do think you'll increase the number of 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.680 people that are wagering in. Time but to your, point 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.520 it's not that hard to do this right. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.720 Now it may not be legal in some, regard but 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.399 if you want to, gamble you're probably. Gambling you'll make 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.439 it easier for people and you'll, AGAIN i think that 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.480 where it gets interesting is if you put it in 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:32.160 sort of the unique places the venues themselves and integrate 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.680 it to the games, themselves WHICH i think we'll get. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.760 To but other than, that, NO i think it'll have 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.840 impact with an enormous, story BUT i also don't necessarily 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.360 think it's going to change the way things are being 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:43.320 done right now a great. 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.080 Deal so let's dive. In we have a number of 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.680 questions about sort of win total over. UNDERS i don't 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:51.040 know if you have them in front of, you BUT 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.480 i will provide the information BECAUSE i have it in 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.119 front of. Me. Memorize we have a number of. Questions 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:58.760 we got a number of questions about The big ten 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.720 and specific teams in The big. Ten somebody wanted to 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:03.840 know About Penn. State there over under it is nine 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.440 and a half after a year THAT i, mean there's 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.600 a good amount of attrition in state college With jillmorehead 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.160 moving To Mississippi, state and the defense is going certainly 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.080 going to look, different but they've recruited quite. Well do 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.040 you have a sense for that nine and a half 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.400 number For Penn? State where's your confidence level in them 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:25.280 once again looking like a top, seventeam. 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.160 You, know and it's also interesting with wind. 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.119 TALLS i Think Penn states nine and a half is 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.960 pretty much like even money, Too so like the big 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.680 thing with these, is you, know the juice will sometimes 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.280