WEBVTT - (Approximately) 10 Things That Vanished Mysteriously 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:04.480 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:13.320 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.479 There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.880 So this is stuff you should know the podcast. Wait, 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.280 him and a Jerry's not there all of a sudden, 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.640 it says she's vanished without a trace. No, she's right there. 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:31.600 There's just a miso dust lingering in her where she 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.680 once sat. Jerry, do you either want a So it 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.519 seems like she's eating me so soup a lot, but 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.440 she probably just did that once and I extrapolated that 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.199 over years. She's eating Indian food right now. I know, 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.560 our tiny little studio smells like we need a spice kitchen. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.839 You know what that is. It's a kitchen full of spice. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.040 Now it's a second kitchen for cooking really stinky food. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.920 I didn't know that. Yeah, huh, I need it. I 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.360 want a spice kitchen so I can cook my rich 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.320 game meets that Emily can't stand the smell. What's your 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:05.520 favorite game meat? I'm just getting on like game meats. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.400 What do you like the stinky? Oh? I mean, dude, 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.360 if I cook bacon or country ham or steak in 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:16.560 the Josh Clark cast iron fan steak. It stinks at 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.640 the house for two days. You know, She's just like, 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.840 oh my god, like that animal in here. You need 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:27.120 to get like good air purifier, air filter works works. Wonders. Well, 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.240 we don't have a stove hood yet, you know. Yeah, 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.760 which is that's probably the biggest rub. Yeah, And I 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.760 think like, depending on the stove hood, I think someone 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.319 are just kind of like, but there's ones out there 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.840 that are really good. Yeah. I bet those are the 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.280 expensive ones. Yeah, but I'll bet you can find a 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.200 good one that's at a lower price point. Maybe, or 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.440 maybe I could just hire a guy they got a 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.400 window right behind the stove to just sit, a little 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.560 short guy to sit in the window with some fireplace bellows. 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.200 They'd be good. Or one of those people who like 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:03.800 fan things with palm franz. Yeah, maybe that's cheaper. I 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.920 don't know. But for the life of your stove, probably 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:13.000 not weirdest start ever. So, Chuck, you remember when David 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:17.040 Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear. I remember it happening. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.639 I didn't watch it. You didn't watch it. No, I've 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.520 never been a big fan of his his magic work. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:27.320 Even as a kid. Nah, not into it. Well, I 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.200 guess you would have been about fifteen at the time. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.400 I could see you like being like, this is dumb. Yeah, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.400 so you were eleven. It was the coolest thing ever. Yeah. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.400 I was like, there's no way he's going to be 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.280 able to do this. Oh my gosh, he did it? 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.519 What I like? What is that? Even? I feel like, 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.880 if I remember correctly, he put up basically a curtain 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:51.320 around the Statue of Liberty and painted and the Statue 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.679 of Liberty wasn't there. I'm sure it's all smoking mirrors. Well, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.840 of course it's you mean it wasn't real magic, but 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.560 I don't think so. I'm pretty sure it wasn't dark arts, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.440 don't think so. I don't think Satan was involved. It 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.440 was too patriotic for that, you know what I mean. Um, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.800 But anyway, my point is to this super lay intro 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.840 is that David Copperfield brought the Statue of Liberty back. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.200 It didn't disappear forever. It just disappeared temporarily. It's amazing, 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:22.880 But there are some things, mostly people and some socks 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.040 that do just disappear forever that have disappeared forever, and 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.639 who's like mystery mysterious disappearances are still unsolved to this day. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:36.000 It's pretty good. Do you lose a lot of socks? Uh? No, No, 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.320 Umi does our laundry. She keeps tabs on the socks. Well, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.480 they make little tabs that you clip on keep your 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.440 socks together when And I've also seen there's this one 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.880 company that tried to sell socks and as three socks, 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:54.520 so you always had a backup superfluous sock. But it didn't. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.160 I don't know if that took off like it should have. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.760 Coulda who knows the person who invented it. They know, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.320 believe me, they wake up every day and they're like, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.360 three sacks was a great idea. So let's talk about 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.000 some of these things that have disappeared without a trace. Yeah, 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.240 this is one of our famous top tens. It'll be 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:20.800 what six eight, something like that, Solomon Northrop number one. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.040 Have you seen twelve years of late yet? Man? Still No. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.400 It's sitting on my DVR staring me in the face 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.320 and watch daring me to be sad and watch it. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:36.159 You just gotta get it over with it. There's a 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.359 certain amount of Catharsis to it. It's not just gonna 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.560 bring you down to the depths of depression and leave 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.919 you there necessarily. Yeah, I've been ticking off the really 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.640 sad ones at a rate of about two per year. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.200 Like I just watched Beast of the Southern Wild like 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.200 a few months ago. I haven't seen that one. That's 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.839 a good one. Is it good? Yes? Very tough movie, 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:00.880 is it? But yeah, long story short, I need to 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:06.279 watch Twelve Years of Slave. Okay, I'm shamed. I didn't 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.480 mean the same. I'm just saying it's like the third 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.719 time I've been shamed. It's a kid. It's a good movie. 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.760 So Solomon Northrop was the uh. He was the man 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.960 who wrote the memoir on which the movie was based, 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.240 because it's a true story about his life and he 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.240 was born free uh an African American in eighteen forty one. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.640 Went well, it says here was lured from his home 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.560 in New York to Washington, d C. And then kidnapped 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.360 forced into slavery in Louisiana. Yeah, he was lured by 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:39.400 being basically hired as a musician, and while when he 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.440 went to d C, he was kidnapped and solding the slavery, 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.599 and man, it just gets worse from there. Whe they're like, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.839 you should come down and play the nine thirty Club. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.919 Basically yeah, He's like, great, let's see it. And they're like, oh, 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:56.120 there is no nine club. There's just horrific slavery on 0:05:56.160 --> 0:06:01.440 a plantation in Louisiana. Um. So he actually, uh spoiler 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.760 alert for those of you, like Chuck who haven't haven't 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:08.880 seen the movie, he um is basically rescued from slavery. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.720 He figures out a way to basically pass a message 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.680 along in the people who know and can confirm that 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.520 he was a born of Freeman, Um come and get him, 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:22.840 which is pretty great. Uh. The and at the very 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.600 end of the movie in it it says basically like 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.800 the circumstances and date and whereabouts of Solomon Northrop's death 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.920 are unknown. Okay, so they just finish it with a 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.880 They do graphic, yes, but basically it's almost like an 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.840 off handed thing. You don't think anything about it. But 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:44.840 it turns out he he disappeared. It was mysterious. Yeah, 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.000 he like people don't know where he went. He went 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.719 back to the North and ended up working in the 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:53.400 underground railroad. There's some um rumors that he became a 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:58.599 spy for the Union during the Civil War. And it's 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.239 so at some point he went you know, he wrote 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.200 Twelve Years of Slave, Yeah, and he went on a 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:07.360 book tour, um and abolitionist book tour, and he never 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.400 came home from it. Yeah. In eighteen sixty three was 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.200 about the last time that there were any records of 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.680 his existence. And there are a bunch of different theories 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.280 out there of what might have happened to him. Uh. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.640 One that while he was a spy he was captured 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:27.520 and killed. One is that he was kidnapped again and 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.360 sold into slavery. But um, I think I read that 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.040 a lot of people just count out because he was 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.280 kind of too old to be valuable at that point 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:40.960 as a worker, yea. And or maybe he encount well, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.760 we know he encountered some financial difficulties, so maybe he 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:45.920 just assumed a new identity and kind of skipped down. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.760 There's also one that's like the saddest but also probably 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.240 the most realistic, that he died in a place where 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.320 they didn't know who he was and they weren't inclined 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.760 to to properly bury him, so he just led a 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.480 regular life and died unknown, Yeah, or like he got 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.960 run over by a horse or something on the book 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.080 tour and no one knew who he was. He just 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:13.600 thought he was like some African American, you know, or 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.760 maybe even a slave and they just buried him in 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:20.200 on mark Grave, Pauper's grave. Yeah, very sad. All right, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.000 Well that is uh, that's the first one. Um. I 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.480 think Jimmy Hoffa is a great way to follow that up. 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:33.920 Who Jimmy Hoffa? M hmm, famous teamster uh, teamster boss. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.560 I was reading a little bit about his huge beef 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.440 with Bobby Kennedy. They hated each other. They didn't like 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.720 each other, I mean hated each other. Like apparently Jimmy 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:48.720 Hoffa shoved Bobby Kennedy at a restaurant once because he 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.920 felt yeah, because he felt like he had snubbed him. Wow. Yeah, 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.640 Jimmy Hoffa didn't like that kind of thing. Bobby Kennedy 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.000 sent he wrote a book called The Enemy Within and 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.120 it was about like the Mob and um, I'm not 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.320 sure if Halfa was named in it or not, but 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:08.160 it was basically like all of his friends. Bobby Kennedy 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.760 wrote a book about it, and he sent a book 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.400 a copy of it to Jimmy Hoffa, and he wrote 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.800 a little inscription that said, to Jimmy, I wanted to 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.679 make sure you've got a copy of this from me 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.200 so you wouldn't have to use pension funds to buy 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:27.720 one zing zing indeed, and he said have him killed. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.839 And he finally Bobby Kennedy finally got his mitts on 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.680 Jimmy Hoffa and sent him to prison for a little while. 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:37.640 But Halfa was a huge contributor to Nixon's campaigns against 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.880 the Kennedy and so when Nixon became president, he'd pardoned Halfa. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.160 That's right, in nineteen seventy one, he was pardoned. And 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.920 then on July thirtieth, n sventy five, just four years later, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.560 he went for a meeting at the uh macas Red 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:57.120 Fox restaurant. It's a great name in Bloomfield, Michigan's great 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:02.800 outside of Detroit, suburban Detroit. And he was never seen again, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:08.120 never seen again, disappeared, no bones, nobody, no nothing. And 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.840 there's been tons of theories and suppositions and rumors about 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.720 what became of him. Right, yeah, Supposedly he was there 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.960 to meet um a couple of mafia bosses Anthony uh 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:26.080 Gia Cologne and Anthony pro Bazan though which was no 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:31.360 Tony Jack and Tony pro most were their nicknames. And um, 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.640 they denied later that they had a meeting scheduled and 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.480 they were they ended up actually having an alb because 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.760 I read that and I was like, well, duh, he 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.480 goes to meet with two mafia guys and disappears. But 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:46.840 supposedly they had an alibi and they yeah, exactly, and 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:52.520 they were not there. Um, so they were at church, yeah, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.080 with their mothers. There was a truck, like a you know, 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.440 a semi truck pulling into the parking lot and almost 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.719 hit got hit by this car pulling out of Mercury 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.760 and he said he looked in and he saw Haffa 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.920 in the back seat with another guy with what looked 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.880 like a rifle like under uh, like a blanket in 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.240 between them. Oh yeah, I mean the mafia killed Jimmy Hoffa. Yeah, 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.760 there's virtually no dispute over that. It's just what happened 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.600 to his body exactly. So some people said that he 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.760 was buried under the old Giants Stadium in New Jersey, 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:28.560 that the meadow Lands or is the new one at 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.840 the meadow lands. The old well, the new one may 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.880 be there too, but the old one was definitely there. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.960 Didn't happen? Did they ever dig it? Dig out the field? 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.960 And look? No, I think the MythBusters actually went there 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.640 with some equipment that could detect whether or not. Is 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.800 there anything those guys couldn't do? I don't know, get 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:52.760 along off the air. Yeah. Uh, we can also verify 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.520 that um, a couple of weeks before he disappeared, hundreds 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.080 of millions of dollars we're missing from the pension. And 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.920 um again, you know no secret that the mafia probably 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:09.000 had him done in right, So where's the body? Right? So? Um? 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.960 And I think two thousand and fourteen, a guy named 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:17.960 Tony Zarelli, another Tony, he wrote a book. Is that 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.760 what his? I'm just kidding his his His book was 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.280 called Half a Found and in it he detailed how 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.840 half of his body was buried under some concrete slabs 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.000 in a barn in upstate Michigan. I thought you gonna 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.200 say it was a pop up book, and at the 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:37.600 end he just pops up in right, here's half of um. 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:41.240 You got me with that one. And apparently the FBI 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.560 read this book and they went and dug up the 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.280 field and didn't find anything. Yeah, they've looked. Um, they're 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.000 quite a few locations in suburban Detroit that they've done 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:55.520 some digging over the years, all yielding nothing. And there 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.840 are other rumors he was fed to alligators in Florida. 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.200 Quite possible. It would be a good way to get 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:01.880 rid of a body and run through a wood chipper 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.360 was another one. Yeah, I'll fargo. Yeah, I think they 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.680 will never find him. I think. I also read that 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:16.240 one um, supposedly reputable mafia source said, yeah, we killed 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.720 him and we buried him in a shallow grave nearby, 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.240 and we were supposed to move it, but we never did. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.600 So he's just, you know, not too far from the restaurant. Um. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.600 They're like, we never thought about that place. But I 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.720 don't you know, I don't think they'll ever get anything. 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:36.920 To be one of those enduring mysteries that is lazy 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.040 who are too lazy to move a body to a 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.960 better right, just leave him in the shallow grave? All right? 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.120 Should we take a break, Yeah, why not? All right, 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.160 we'll come back and talk about more disappearing X. I 0:13:48.200 --> 0:14:04.080 love this, Uh, one of these chuck, we should at 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.320 least give a shout out to is the three guys 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.079 who escaped Alcatraz. Oh yeah, and if you guys are 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.480 interested in that, go listen to our entire episode on Alcatraz, 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.760 where I believe we talked about this in depth. I hope. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.720 So I'm pretty sure we did, because if not, people 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.240 are gonna be like, or just go watch the great 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.760 Clint Eastwood movie Escape from Alcatraz. Yeah, because it's pretty 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.440 darn accurate to the real story. Um, so we're gonna 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.000 breeze by that one. I mean, we can talk about 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.280 it if you want them, endlessly fascinated by. When we 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.440 were in San Francisco for our most recent tour for 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.320 Sketch Fest, Actually, did you go? No? I was. I 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.840 ran down to the bay and looked out across it. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.840 I was like, I couldn't swim that, no problem. I 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:51.560 wanted to go, but you gotta get reservations far in advantage. Sure, 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.560 I've never been to Alcatraz. I want to go. Yeah. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.520 I was like, let me call and get tickets and 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.280 they were like, we've been sold out for weeks. I'd 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.760 also like to go take a tour of Eastern State 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:04.720 pen the Tentry one of those old like crazy asylums. Yeah, 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.160 I would love to do that. It'd be pretty cool, 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.560 all right, Well, yeah, let's talk about it, why not. Yeah. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.440 Nineteen sixty two, Frank Morris and the Anglan brothers, Johnny 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.520 and Clarence. They were bank robbers. Frank Morris is sort 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:23.080 of a lifelong crook. Yeah, very very super intelligent guy 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.960 who had escaped from several prisons. Uh. And finally they said, 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.560 you know what, We're gonna put you in Alcatraz because 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:34.320 it's inescapable. It's like the Titanic of prisons. You saw 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.240 what happen with that. So they devised a brilliant plan 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.240 over the course of several months, along with a guy 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:43.680 named Alan west Um who sadly was left behind um 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.840 to Uh, he wouldn't wake up. No, he couldn't fit through, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.840 he couldn't get his little vent open. They what they 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.800 did was they carved out in vent over the course 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.240 of months with like these little homemade chisels. He ain't 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.640 too much bread pudding in the meantime, maybe, I mean 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.360 the guys tried. They were trying to kick out from 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.040 the other side, and eventually like we gotta go do 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.000 so Um. The plan was over the course of months 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.080 to carve out this space to get out, work their 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.240 way through the guts of the prison to the roof, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.640 slide down some drain pipes, and then swim away with 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.400 homemade life vests made out of raincoats that they had 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.880 collected and glued together. But didn't they run into like 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.520 some construction or something like that that just totally through 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.720 their their plan off, improvise and go around, and it 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.000 just was exponentially harder than they thought it was going 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.400 to be getting out, I believe it. But they made 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.200 life rafts out of raincoats that they sewed together to inflate, well, 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.760 glued them together. Yeah, that's awesome. It is awesome. And 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.800 they also made um bodies, well heads at least, right, Yeah, 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.800 paper mache heads to lay in their bunks that um, 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.840 you know, they look like paper mache heads in the light, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.800 but when you're walking the rounds at night and it's 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.120 just sort of tucked into a pillow under some blank 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:01.480 ets with real human hair from the barbershop, it fulled 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:06.719 the guards. Yeah. Really, don't they have those on display 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.840 in Alcatraz still? Oh, I'm sure they do. And here's 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:11.800 a neat little fact that I didn't know until my 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:15.320 friend Stacy told me. The they didn't have cold water 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.400 in Alcatraz because they didn't want you to be able 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:23.240 to acclimate yourself to the frigid baywaters over time. So 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:29.080 all the water was warm, luxurious, the bay waters about 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:33.800 fifty degrees. It's like an omni it is And uh, 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.120 they don't know, I mean the FBI, and everyone says 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.359 now they died for sure. That says that about everybody. 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.160 They can't catch you now they're dead. There's no way. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.119 Just don't bring it up again, right, just shut up. Uh, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.520 they don't think they could have survived the swim. Um. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.639 The original plan was to go to Angel Island, go 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.240 to the opposite side of the island, and then swim 0:17:54.320 --> 0:18:00.000 to Marin. I guess open a coffee shop. I guess 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.880 me dely right. When they crossed the county, they were 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.720 imbued with wealth. I don't know if they made it 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.960 or not. Apparently a couple of weeks later there was 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:14.119 a freighter ship that saw a body floating. Uh, they 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.600 didn't report it until October though. They went from July 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:19.399 to October and then said, oh, by the way, we 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.440 saw body floating. That looked like he was wearing prison denims. 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.560 They finally got to that on their to do list. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.080 They're like, oh, yeah, report dead body. Well it's a 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.560 fraighter ship. They didn't care, you know, their laws, their 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.679 allegiances to the sea, not a man on land. And 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.520 they also found a few pieces of other evidence. Um, 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.080 they found a life vest with teeth marks near the 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:44.920 valve and um, human teeth marks. Yeah, human teeth marks. Yeah, 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.840 not Barracuda teeth marks. Isn't someone who was probably holding 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.680 it in their teeth trying to blow it up while 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.760 they were swimming. Where would they have gotten a life vest? Oh, 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:54.960 I don't know. I think it was one of the 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.240 homemade ones. Oh well, so, I mean that doesn't mean anything. 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.600 They could have ditched. Well that's what I said. And 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.360 the fact that the body was unidentifiable. Yeah, and they 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:10.359 never uh, they never you know, resurfaced. The plan was 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.640 to rob a store on Angel Island and get clothing, 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.080 and there were never any robberies planting. You know. That's 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.520 kind of about That's a little telling, although they could 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.359 have been like, I'm too cold to rob anything, let's 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:24.280 just go to Muran and hug Yeah. Uh so who knows. 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:30.680 Pretty neat, pretty neat? Indeed, when was that cool? I 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.960 think we'll never know, just like the rest of these 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:38.800 unexplained mysterious disappearances. Should we move on to the candy heiress. Yeah, 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.320 Helen Brock. Um, I can't remember where I saw something. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.760 I saw it. I guess the documentary on this case. 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:49.240 It's amazing. It's an amazing true crime cold case. Helen 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.320 Brock's mysterious disappearance. And this our own article gets a 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:56.159 little bit wrong. Um, but let's talk about it, okay. 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.800 So Helen Brock was the heiress to the Brock Candy 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:03.000 fortune because her husband and Frank Brock um it, was 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.600 a co founder of the company and when he died, 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.480 he left his wife Helen. Um, I think, basically everything. 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.960 And she was a very very wealthy woman, and she 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.199 liked to do things like go to the Mayo Clinic 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.040 to get her annual physical like Mr Burns, although she 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.679 was nothing like Mr Burns from what I understand. She 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:26.920 was a very um, lovable, conscience is cool person. Um. 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:28.960 But she was very very wealthy, so why not go 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.960 to the Mayo Clinic? Back in she went to the 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.399 Mayo Clinic and got to work out, and the last 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.520 reliable person to see her alive was a woman who 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.080 was working at the Mayo Clinic gift shop where Mrs 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.199 Brock stopped to get a gift for her niece. A 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:55.040 Mayo Clinic snow globe exactly right, right, yeah, what else? 0:20:56.560 --> 0:21:00.000 Anything else? Spooned spoon to Mayo Clinic spoon. People click those, 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:06.480 uh Mayo Clinic sock puppet. Big seller. So she said 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.360 to the lady, I'm in a hurry. My house man 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:14.760 is waiting. House man was one Jack Matlick, and she 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:18.480 was never seen again. Um, Mattlick had dropped her off. 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.760 Obviously it's for the outbound flight to Minneapolis. And then 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.920 he said, no, man, she came back. I picked her up. 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:30.080 And then she spent four days. I didn't call anyone, 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.960 but she was here home at home, even though there's 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.240 no evidence to corroborate this, right, And then he said 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.439 he dropped her off again at the airport, had to 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.240 go to Florida, right where she had a condo. Correct. 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.320 And it was when she didn't show up in Florida 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.080 as planned that people started noticing she was missing, and 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:50.040 they called her house and Matlick answered and two different 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.399 people gave varying stories about where she was. Did he 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:59.480 say Matlock residents? Right? I mean I mean resident. So 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.560 here's a couple of pinky details. Matt Matt like I 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:08.200 think was the guy, although he disagreed. Uh he um. Well, 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.680 the people on the original flight, like the flight crew said, Now, 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:13.840 she was never on this plane to begin with. Oh, 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:17.479 from the Mayo Clinic back to Chicago. Yeah, okay, so 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.320 that stands out as super hinky. Well he wasn't there, 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.920 then he was going to pick her up in Chicago. 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.040 He wouldn't have been in Minneapolis. So if she wasn't 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.480 on the flight from Minneapolis to Chicago, he wouldn't have 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.639 had anything to do with that, seemingly, but he Why 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:33.199 would he say that he picked her up if she 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:37.480 didn't arrive. I'm not saying he didn't know what happened, 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:39.520 but I don't think he was the one that killed her. Sorry, 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:43.160 just go well, he he cashed. He was found out 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:46.960 later to have cashed thirteen grand and checks with the 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:51.639 Fords signature from It wasn't his handwriting and it wasn't hers, 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.919 that's right, but he's clearly working with someone. Sure, that's 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:59.919 where I'm going here. Uh. And her brother Charles Voor 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.640 he's that and Matt like actually burned her diaries after 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.000 she died, and there's super weird. Well, her brother's explanation 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.639 was that she was into automatic writing, which is basically 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.600 where you get a piece of paper and a pen. 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:17.320 Super Victorian, right, and um, you say, oh, spirits speak 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.000 through me. Oh excellent airbag. Let's see what you got, right, 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:24.359