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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there.

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Speaker 1: So this is stuff you should know the podcast. Wait,

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Speaker 1: him and a Jerry's not there all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it says she's vanished without a trace. No, she's right there.

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Speaker 1: There's just a miso dust lingering in her where she

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Speaker 1: once sat. Jerry, do you either want a So it

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Speaker 1: seems like she's eating me so soup a lot, but

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Speaker 1: she probably just did that once and I extrapolated that

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Speaker 1: over years. She's eating Indian food right now. I know,

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Speaker 1: our tiny little studio smells like we need a spice kitchen.

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Speaker 1: You know what that is. It's a kitchen full of spice.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a second kitchen for cooking really stinky food.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, huh, I need it. I

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Speaker 1: want a spice kitchen so I can cook my rich

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Speaker 1: game meets that Emily can't stand the smell. What's your

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Speaker 1: favorite game meat? I'm just getting on like game meats.

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Speaker 1: What do you like the stinky? Oh? I mean, dude,

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Speaker 1: if I cook bacon or country ham or steak in

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Speaker 1: the Josh Clark cast iron fan steak. It stinks at

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Speaker 1: the house for two days. You know, She's just like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, like that animal in here. You need

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Speaker 1: to get like good air purifier, air filter works works. Wonders. Well,

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Speaker 1: we don't have a stove hood yet, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is that's probably the biggest rub. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: think like, depending on the stove hood, I think someone

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Speaker 1: are just kind of like, but there's ones out there

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Speaker 1: that are really good. Yeah. I bet those are the

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Speaker 1: expensive ones. Yeah, but I'll bet you can find a

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Speaker 1: good one that's at a lower price point. Maybe, or

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Speaker 1: maybe I could just hire a guy they got a

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Speaker 1: window right behind the stove to just sit, a little

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Speaker 1: short guy to sit in the window with some fireplace bellows.

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Speaker 1: They'd be good. Or one of those people who like

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Speaker 1: fan things with palm franz. Yeah, maybe that's cheaper. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. But for the life of your stove, probably

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Speaker 1: not weirdest start ever. So, Chuck, you remember when David

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Speaker 1: Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear. I remember it happening.

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. You didn't watch it. No, I've

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Speaker 1: never been a big fan of his his magic work.

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Speaker 1: Even as a kid. Nah, not into it. Well, I

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Speaker 1: guess you would have been about fifteen at the time.

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Speaker 1: I could see you like being like, this is dumb. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you were eleven. It was the coolest thing ever. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way he's going to be

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Speaker 1: able to do this. Oh my gosh, he did it?

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Speaker 1: What I like? What is that? Even? I feel like,

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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, he put up basically a curtain

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Speaker 1: around the Statue of Liberty and painted and the Statue

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Speaker 1: of Liberty wasn't there. I'm sure it's all smoking mirrors. Well,

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Speaker 1: of course it's you mean it wasn't real magic, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm pretty sure it wasn't dark arts,

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Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think Satan was involved. It

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Speaker 1: was too patriotic for that, you know what I mean. Um,

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Speaker 1: But anyway, my point is to this super lay intro

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Speaker 1: is that David Copperfield brought the Statue of Liberty back.

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Speaker 1: It didn't disappear forever. It just disappeared temporarily. It's amazing,

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Speaker 1: But there are some things, mostly people and some socks

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Speaker 1: who's like mystery mysterious disappearances are still unsolved to this day.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Do you lose a lot of socks? Uh? No, No,

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Speaker 1: Umi does our laundry. She keeps tabs on the socks. Well,

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Speaker 1: they make little tabs that you clip on keep your

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Speaker 1: socks together when And I've also seen there's this one

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that took off like it should have.

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Speaker 1: Coulda who knows the person who invented it. They know,

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Speaker 1: believe me, they wake up every day and they're like,

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Speaker 1: some of these things that have disappeared without a trace. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is one of our famous top tens. It'll be

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Speaker 1: what six eight, something like that, Solomon Northrop number one.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen twelve years of late yet? Man? Still No.

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Speaker 1: It's sitting on my DVR staring me in the face

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Speaker 1: watch Twelve Years of Slave. Okay, I'm shamed. I didn't

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Speaker 1: So Solomon Northrop was the uh. He was the man

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Speaker 1: because it's a true story about his life and he

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Speaker 1: was born free uh an African American in eighteen forty one.

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Speaker 1: Went well, it says here was lured from his home

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Speaker 1: and man, it just gets worse from there. Whe they're like,

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Speaker 1: the circumstances and date and whereabouts of Solomon Northrop's death

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Speaker 1: There's also one that's like the saddest but also probably

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Speaker 1: Well that is uh, that's the first one. Um. I

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Speaker 1: Who Jimmy Hoffa? M hmm, famous teamster uh, teamster boss.

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Speaker 1: I was reading a little bit about his huge beef

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Hoffa didn't like that kind of thing. Bobby Kennedy

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Speaker 1: But Halfa was a huge contributor to Nixon's campaigns against

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Speaker 1: the Kennedy and so when Nixon became president, he'd pardoned Halfa.

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Speaker 1: between them. Oh yeah, I mean the mafia killed Jimmy Hoffa. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's virtually no dispute over that. It's just what happened

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Speaker 1: to his body exactly. So some people said that he

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Speaker 1: was buried under the old Giants Stadium in New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: that the meadow Lands or is the new one at

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Speaker 1: the meadow lands. The old well, the new one may

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Speaker 1: be there too, but the old one was definitely there.

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Speaker 1: with some equipment that could detect whether or not. Is

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Speaker 1: Tony Zarelli, another Tony, he wrote a book. Is that

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Speaker 1: what his? I'm just kidding his his His book was

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Speaker 1: think it's more like American gigolo. Uh. Well, no, I

421
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: don't think he was jigglowing. I think he was. Oh

422
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: he was. Oh, I thought it just had to do

423
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 1: with horses. That was his. Like, invest in this thoroughbread,

424
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: give me your dough, but also come and lie down

425
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: with me this in the sock, in my jeans. You

426
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: know that's a gigolo thing to say. Uh. So he

427
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: was eventually pinched for fraud and racketeering, sentenced to prison.

428
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: Um and people thought that he had a role in

429
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: her disappearance. He said, no, I didn't. And a judge said,

430
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: do you know what I think you did? And he said,

431
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: who cares what you think? Judge? Well, the judge said, well,

432
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why you should care, because I'm giving

433
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: you a thirty years sentence because I suspect that you

434
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: had something to do with Mrs Brock's disappearance and likely death.

435
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: So who do you think it was him? I do

436
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: Although he wrote a book, um, that said he loved her,

437
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: that he yes, he was a jigglo, just a jigglo,

438
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: but he fell in love with her and his love

439
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: was sincere and real. Um. And he said that he

440
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: was going to give the proceeds from his book to

441
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: her favorite charity, which is an animal welfare charity. And

442
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: she had her own foundation that she endowed upon her death,

443
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: and she was declared dead seven years later in nineteen

444
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: eighty four, just because that's what they do when you

445
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: don't turn up for seven years and people think you're dead, um.

446
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: And her her endowment basically went toward almost exclusively animal welfare. Well,

447
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: he had already stolen all of her money when he

448
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: killed her, right, Well, that was the thing. So we

449
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: sold her some bumb racehorses for three grand and they

450
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: later sold for one dollar. That's how bad off these

451
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: race horses were. He said, by Limp Joe, he's a

452
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: great investment. And the one eyed Pete and they they

453
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: think that he had her whacked because um, she was

454
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: going to blow the whistle on him. Interesting, Yeah, that's

455
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: the theory, right, and I mean he's in prison for

456
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: it right now. He's not in prison for her murder,

457
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: although the judge just said, like, yeah, I gave you

458
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: a stiff sentence because I think you killed her, kind

459
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: of like when O. J. Was sent in to prison

460
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: for armed robbery, yeah, and kidnapping and yeah, all these

461
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: other things. I think it's the exact same thing watching

462
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: that show right now. Now, I'm waiting until it's done

463
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: and then I'll start it. Terrible, well, terribly awesome. Oh okay, cool, Yeah,

464
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: I like that. However, I think I'm bailing on it

465
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: because after a few episodes that was the novelty of

466
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: it being terribly awesome kind of war off and I'm like,

467
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I have time to watch

468
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: something that's good, bad or bad. I think you don't

469
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: like it's too short, you know, I like it, though,

470
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: you never know. I'll try it for sure. It's bad casting.

471
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: Cubic Gooding Jr. Is he not a good O J. Well,

472
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: he's just he's too nice. He's just small, like he

473
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: doesn't look like a football player. Even though he played

474
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: one Jerry McGuire, Yeah, he did. He played a wide

475
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: receiver though, what was he He's a running back, was he? Yeah?

476
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: You gotta be a little stock here and that bigger

477
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: and boy Malcolm Jamal Warner is a c and he's

478
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: way over the top. Yeah, but it's worth it for

479
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: just to watch Travolta. It's that's something else he plays.

480
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Robert Shapiro, right, Oh does he? I can't wait to

481
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: see this now, man. Yeah, it's you should definitely check

482
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: out of psych the first one at least. Well, since

483
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: we're so psyched, we should take another break. What do

484
00:27:52,440 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: you think let's do it? Okay, how about a quick one.

485
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: George Washington's teeth Yeah, here today, gone tomorrow. Yeah. So

486
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 1: they were in a storage room at the Smithsonian. They

487
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: were on loan in uh from since nine from the

488
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: University of Maryland dental school. Right. Yeah. Washington had terrible teeth,

489
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: like me. That's his like that was his cross to

490
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: bear in his life. By the time he was inaugurated,

491
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: he only had one tooth remaining, so he very famously

492
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: had full dentures in his mouth. Uh. And the providence

493
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: of those dentures is up for debate. They're clearly not

494
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: they're not wood or wooden teeth. That's an old wives sale.

495
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: But there's things like ivory um gold, real human, real

496
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: human teeth. And that's where like the debate comes up

497
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: because some people are like, he these were forcibly taken

498
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: from his slaves, and other people are like, they might

499
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: be slave teeth, but he probably bought them. If you

500
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: really look at his character over the course of his lifetime,

501
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: he most likely wouldn't have had his teeth his slaves

502
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: teeth forcibly extracted. He probably would have compensated for and

503
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: if you look at contemporary ads at the time, that

504
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: was a common practice to buy teeth from people who

505
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: are willing to give him up. Although I'm quite sure

506
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: that somewhere in the US dentures were made out of

507
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 1: forcibly extracted slaves, which is like one of the most

508
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: horrific things I've ever heard of. So in the end,

509
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: Washington ended up having four. They're well, probably more than four,

510
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: but there are four existing sets left on display, and

511
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: one of which was at the Smithsonian until they disappeared

512
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: um from storage room where only employees had access, so

513
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: it double locked stories. Yeah, it very much. Is seems

514
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: like an inside job almost invariably. But it gets a

515
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: little more interesting because half of them showed back up. Yeah,

516
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: the lower the lower half, I think, leave those the

517
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: lower half. Yeah, like a year later, they just suddenly

518
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: reappeared out of nowhere, and they think that, Um, rather

519
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: than sell these on the market to somebody like Steven

520
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: Spielberg or something, they they they melted them down for

521
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: their gold, which is terrible. You know, that's I'd rather

522
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: have some rich jerk have the full set and just

523
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: know that they're out there still, then have them melted

524
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: down for gold. Right. They're like, you can get that anywhere? Um,

525
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 1: that would be very sad. Indeed. Uh. And to this day,

526
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: they still don't know where those the top set. I'm

527
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: sorry the Yeah, the top set remains missing. Yeah, it

528
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: might be someone's wedding ring right now. Wouldn't that be weird?

529
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: That would be really weird, you know. Yeah, Flight nineteen.

530
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: Are we moving on? Yeah? I love this one. We

531
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: covered this one a little bit in their Bermuda Triangle episode. Yeah,

532
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: I remember not liking that episode for some reason. I

533
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. It was basically like, look

534
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: at all this hokum. Yeah. Yeah, we spent the whole

535
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: time explaining why that it's not a real thing. Okay,

536
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: well maybe I did like it then, Oh yeah, yeah,

537
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: because it's not a real thing. No, it's not. There's

538
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: not some mistake. There has been a lot of weird

539
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: disappearances in that area. That's indisputed, indisputable. Don't even try

540
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: Flight nineteen in December nineteen forty five, there were five

541
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: planes TBM Avengers, which are torpedo bombers. They took off

542
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: from Fort Lauderdale on a training mission. Uh supposed to

543
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: be a couple of hours. Don't go more than a

544
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty miles, guys, and uh, just come on

545
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: back and we'll have some hot soup waiting on you, right,

546
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: or maybe it's Fort Lauderdale, some good spato, yeah, or

547
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: Cuban black bean suit maybe oh yeah. Yeah. But they

548
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: never came back, No, they didn't. Um and back back

549
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: in Fort Lauderdale. I think at the Fort Lauderdale Hollywood Airport,

550
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: which is what it is now. Back then it was

551
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: like Fort Lauderdale, right, Um, the they were waiting anxiously

552
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: for him, and and they never came back, although they

553
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: did get a radio transmission from the guy who was

554
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: the trainer, Yeah, the flight leader. He said, both my

555
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: compasses are out for some reason, and we are in

556
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: big trouble. We have no idea where we are. And

557
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: they went back and forth with the tower for a

558
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: while trying to figure out where they were. Uh, and

559
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: they changed courses a few times. Then that was the

560
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: last anybody heard of him. Yeah. So they sent a

561
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: plane after them, a Mariner aircraft with thirteen men aboard.

562
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: So they already lost fourteen, I believe, from these other flights,

563
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: five planes, and then they sent another plane, right, said,

564
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: another plane. That one didn't come back. People need a triangle. Well,

565
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: that one's no big mystery. They attributed that to an explosion,

566
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: so they think it actually exploded, and well what man,

567
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: it explode aliens, But it didn't seriously disappear, Okay. The

568
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: other ones definitely did mysteriously disappear, and um they most

569
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: people thought that they just went um further and further

570
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: out into the Atlantic. That at one point they were

571
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: over the Bahamas or Bermuda, which they mistook for the

572
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Florida Keys, which is not the same thing. And if

573
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: you use that mistakenly, as your bearings, you're going to

574
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: be in big trouble, and that they ended up just

575
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: running out of feeling crashed in the Atlantic. But uh,

576
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: in the last year or two, a couple of independent

577
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: searchers who had this same theory independently came together and said,

578
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: you know what, there was in nine a Broward County

579
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department helicopter spotted the wreckage of one of these planes,

580
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: the TBM Avenger, in the Everglades, next to Jimmy Hoffa's body,

581
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: and um, they said, it was so far off from

582
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: where they thought flight nineteen had been that it couldn't

583
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: have been one of them. And then they went back

584
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: and looked at the records and they were like, well,

585
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: the only missing Avenger planes are from flight nineteen, so

586
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: it has to be one of them, basically, And they

587
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: found an aircraft carrier off of Daytona had tracked six

588
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: unidentified planes that night turning into the Florida mainland, so

589
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: they think rather than going out to see they turned

590
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: inland and didn't realize they were inland because the weather

591
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: was so bad. They were way off course right, and

592
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 1: they at least one of them crashed in the Everglades. Yeah. Um.

593
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: The only thing I knew about this previous to this

594
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: research was the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

595
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: Oh really they showed up in that, Yeah, I remember

596
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: that was Um. I never saw the whole thing. Oh man,

597
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: it still holds up. Yeah, like Spielberg knows what he's doing. Yeah.

598
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: And the special effects even still look pretty decent considering

599
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: you know what what we're how long ago it was, Um,

600
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: they found the planes and the desert. Uh. And the

601
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: idea was that the aliens had had gotten ahold of

602
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: the guys because at the end of the movie, the

603
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: big mothership lands and they lowered the thing and George

604
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: Clinton comes out, not George Clinton, but all these people

605
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: come out, and um, people again abducted over the years,

606
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: and the cruise of the Flight nineteen came out still

607
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: the same age as when they disappeared in their flight uniforms.

608
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: And they were like, wow, that was weird. They're like,

609
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: what a night And then they went, oh my god,

610
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: it's Richard Dreyfus. I love Jaws. Yeah, I didn't say that.

611
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of it. Was that any good?

612
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Did you watch it? And I didn't catch my attention. Yeah,

613
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I did watch Jaws again the other night for like

614
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: the eightieth time. That's an all time. That'll be great

615
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: a hundred years from now, and I can watch it

616
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: every single time. I get right back into it. Amazing. Uh,

617
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: Mary Celeste, I thought we had covered this, but we haven't. No,

618
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: this doesn't isn't super mysterious to me. What do you

619
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: think happened? Well, here's the backstory in case there's anyone

620
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: on earth that doesn't know about the ghost ship. Uh.

621
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: It was UM in eighteen seventy two, in December UM

622
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: there was a British vessel about four hundred miles east

623
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: of the Azores Islands, thousand miles west of Portugal, and

624
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: they saw this ship, the Mary Celeste, and they went, oh,

625
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: my god, look at that ship. We know that ship.

626
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: Let's go over to it and say hello. But there

627
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: was nobody on board, and they knew that it shouldn't

628
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: be where it was and that there's something up because

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Speaker 1: the crew that spotted it the um what is it

630
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: the day? Would you pronounce the E and the I? Uh,

631
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: I'd pronounced that the de Garrazia. Oh nice, okay, but

632
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: it's a British vessel so that's probably wrong, so okay,

633
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: but still they could have it named like that, you know.

634
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: So the de Garrazia UM said, well, this Mary Celeste

635
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: left eight days ahead of us, it should be like

636
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: all the way to Jenoa basically by now, and it

637
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't be there. And when they looked, there was no

638
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: one on board. But there wasn't any obvious reason for

639
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: there to be no one on board. There was a

640
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: ghost ship, which is awesome in and of itself. I mean,

641
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: it is fairly mysterious UM because is well here here's

642
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: some of the facts. There were seventeen hundred and one

643
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: barrels of industrial alcohol on board UM. Only nine were

644
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: empty because there was one theory that the crew got

645
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: drunk and they an industrial alcohol industrial alcohol, and UM

646
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: had a mutiny, right, But that doesn't hold up. It's

647
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: not a likely story. Now they think the nine barrels

648
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: UM they were made of a different kind of oak

649
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: than all the others, and it was a leaky oak,

650
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: so they say it probably just leaked out what else,

651
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: food and water? They had plenty of it still on board,

652
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: six months worth left on board UM. And I think

653
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: a woman named Mary Thorogood created a documentary about this

654
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: and really like investigated it, and um, these are mostly

655
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: her findings and they're pretty recent. But um, one of

656
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: the one of the big weird mysteries that the lifeboat

657
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: was gone right, kind of weird. I think that's because

658
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: they got on it and left. There was a pump

659
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: disassembled and there's a little bit of water. But upon inspection,

660
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: the Dea Gratia found like, no, those things totally seaworthy.

661
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: She can make it all the way to Genoa and

662
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: we'll even tow her. And they towed her to Portugal,

663
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: I believe, right. Yeah, But here's the thing. Apparently the

664
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: whole where the flooding was was so crowded that the captain,

665
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: Benjamin Spooner Briggs, couldn't get down there. He said he

666
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: didn't know how much water. So one of the theories

667
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: is that he thought they had taken on way more

668
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: water than they had and his family was on board,

669
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: including a little two year old daughter, and he said,

670
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: uh no, let's just get the heck out of here.

671
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm not taking any chances, which was a big chance

672
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: that didn't pay off in and of itself. Yeah, but

673
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 1: the abandoned ship is a lass resort like, you don't

674
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: just say, oh, I think we might be in trouble,

675
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: let's get on out of here on the one lifeboat

676
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: for all of us, and yeah, in the middle of

677
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: the Atlantic. That's not yeah, no, you're not going to

678
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: do that. What do you think happened. I think that

679
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: that's what happened. I think that he thought they had

680
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: taken on way more water, he had his family aboard,

681
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 1: I saw they had just been through a bad store

682
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: arm and he saw the mainland with his own eyeballs

683
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: and said, this is our chance. Let's not screw around here.

684
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to sink with mainland and insight. But

685
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: the thing is that the mainland wasn't insight. The Azores

686
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: are like in the middle of nowhere. They're like halfway

687
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: between the Atlanta between Europe and um North America. Well

688
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: that's where they found it eventually. But supposedly he saw

689
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: the mainland oh yeah, And I think so. And that's

690
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: why I think that he just said, all right, it's

691
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: time to go. So there's long been a suspicion that

692
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: the crew of the day Grazia were the ones who

693
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: did away with the crew of the mart The last

694
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't it go ship when we found it. Right. So

695
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: the reason they would have done this is because under

696
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: maritime law, if you find a ship that's insured, the

697
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: insurer has to pay you a salvage feeds insured amount,

698
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: which they did. They did, but they only got one

699
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: sixth of the insured amount, which suggests that the British

700
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: Maritime Admiralty Court believed that they were crooked, that they'd

701
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: done something to the Mary Celeste. We shall never know,

702
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: no unsolved mystery. Yeah. In fact, I was gonna say

703
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: we should do an episode on that and full but um,

704
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: I think maybe we should just refer people this stuff

705
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: he missed in history class, because they did a great

706
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: episode on that. Yes, Mary Celeste. So we got one

707
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: more chuck. Alrighty, this might be my favorite one of all.

708
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: I had never heard of this, uh pro basketball player

709
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: who disappeared without a trace. I had neither. His name

710
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: is John Brisker, right, that's right. He's from Detroit, and

711
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: he went to your University of Toledo. Actually go uh rockets, Rockets.

712
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: And the thing is while he was at YOUTU, apparently

713
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: he had had a racially harmonious upbringing in Detroit and

714
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: got to Toledo and experienced racism firsthand and grew up

715
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: fairly bitter from it. He was um uh he He

716
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: had a reputation of having a short fuse after that point,

717
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: which he didn't have before growing up. Yeah. He went

718
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: on to play pro ball with the A B A

719
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Condors, and then eventually Um made his way

720
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: to Seattle with the SuperSonics, and he was good too.

721
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: With the Condors. Over three years, he averaged twenty six

722
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: points a game the first year. It was the second

723
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: and third years it was about thirty points a game

724
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: for the year. That's a that's amazing even for the

725
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: A B A. Um, I'm not knocking to A B A.

726
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: They were great. Actually, was there an Atlanta team in

727
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: the A B A. No, it was always NBA. Where

728
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: did Atlanta get its team from from? Why do I

729
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: want to say Milwaukee? That was the Braves, jeesu, I

730
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: can't remember. And the Thrashers were the Flames right. Well,

731
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: now we had the Flames and they just went away,

732
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: and then we created the Thrashers and Flames went out.

733
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: They went out. Now the tough The Thrashers went to

734
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: Canada or something. Yeah, they went to a different city. Uh,

735
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: don't have hockey in Atlanta. I think we've learned our

736
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: lesson not There's a lot of transplants, but apparently not enough.

737
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: So back to Brisker, he Um eventually played for the Sonics.

738
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: After that he said, I'm gonna open a restaurant that failed,

739
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: and then in night he said, you know what, I'm

740
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: going to Africa and I'm gonna open an import export business. Yeah,

741
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: but he he wasn't just going to Africa. He went

742
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: to Africa under the invitation of the Ugandan dictator Idi

743
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: A mean who loved basketball. Loved basketball, and I guess

744
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: I'd heard of John Brisker, and John Brisker said, sure, man,

745
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's hang out kind of like Rodman with

746
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Um Kim Jong Un. Yeah, and uh he went and

747
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 1: hung out with the d I mean definitely Um. And

748
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: I guess about six weeks after he made it to Uganda,

749
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: he placed a call to his girlfriend and the mother

750
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: of one of his children, Um Melvis Diane Williamson, right,

751
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: and he said, hey, baby, we are going to get

752
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: back together. I'm gonna have you guys come over here soon.

753
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: I'm just laying the foundation. It's all good. I'll see

754
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: you guys, I'll call you in a little bit. And

755
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: now is the last anybody ever heard from him? Yeah,

756
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: and there, Um, there are many theories on this one.

757
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: One is uh well, I mean figures in a couple

758
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: of ways. One is that maybe he ran a foul

759
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: of I mean and was killed by uh, he and

760
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: his soldiers. The other is that he was killed by

761
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: anti I mean revolutionaries because he was pals with I

762
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: mean and he was there when the Immane regime was

763
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: top old, like that's when he was there. Uh. And

764
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: another one that I don't think it's true at all

765
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: is that he eventually made his way to uh to

766
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: Jonestown and was part of the Jonestown Jim Jones suicide people.

767
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: That one actually has more legs than it appears at first.

768
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: He had a great aunt who was there who tried

769
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: to get him and other family members to come join

770
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: her in Jonestown. All right, So we'll give that up.

771
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: So it's like not just totally random. Yeah, you know, um,

772
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: but that's probably probably didn't happen. I think they can't

773
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: find any real evidence that happened. His brother Ralph said

774
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: up until he was declared dead, and um, I think

775
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: nine five, His brother Ralph held the idea that his

776
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: brother had just assumed another identity to get away from

777
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: debt because he had like twenty grand and taxes just

778
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: from that restaurant alone. Um, that used to be a

779
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: viable option in life. You could just like you, did

780
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: we ever do a show on that? Yeah? Okay, that

781
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: was a long time ago. That one might need a

782
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: dusting off, But it's I think the answer now is no,

783
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: you can't. Yeah, exactly is that it? Sir? I think

784
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: that's it. Man, unsolved mysteries that may stay unsolved forever.

785
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: We're Roberts Stack, thank you for joining us. Or wait,

786
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: I'll be Dennis Freena, You be Robert Stack, got breast

787
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Speaker 1: his soul, both their souls. Freena is dead now it stinks.

788
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Speaker 1: He's one of my faves. Yeah, he was good. Remember

789
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: Crime Story eighties to Vegas show? Yeah, I don't think

790
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: I ever saw that good one, but he's uh. Midnight

791
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: Run one of my all time favorite comedies. He figures

792
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: heavily into that and um, Out of Sight, the great

793
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Speaker 1: movie from Steven Soderbergh, George Clooney and Jennifer Local Philipez.

794
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: Fantastic movie. He's in that too. I like him as

795
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: a long order man myself. Right, he's a former like

796
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,120
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Speaker 1: I can hear the drumming bass kicking in right about now.

802
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Speaker 1: That's right. So this is when we thank people for

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Speaker 1: their lovely gestures of kindness by sending us uh neat things,

804
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Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and start with our pals Liz and

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807
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Speaker 1: handed me a book and the book was a copy

816
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Speaker 1: of Paper Moon. Actually Eddie Pray, the movie that Paper

817
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Speaker 1: Moon is based on. If you'll know that she has

818
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Speaker 1: the same name as the as the title character. That's

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820
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Speaker 1: can't wait to read it because that is famously one of,

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825
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830
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Speaker 1: As always, they have sent us stuff over the years. Um.

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Speaker 1: Well we got into a shouting match at somebody. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see. Kurt Schroeder from the Origami Brain Injury Rehab

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00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: Center and Mason Michigan send us some cool puzzles and

839
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Speaker 1: books that are awesome and um mind bending. Thank you

840
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: for those. Jeff, thank you for the um tick Coombs. Yeah,

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00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: the patent pending tick Coombs. Well, by now this is

842
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: so long ago, the patent has probably been granted. So

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Speaker 1: if you have a dog, you can go to tick

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Speaker 1: Comb dot com and they are pretty awesome and they

845
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Speaker 1: are three D printed. Even Alex Blangya sent us the

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Speaker 1: Joy of Christmas CDs, his CD of him singing Christmas standards.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that, Alex, I love Christmas music.

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Speaker 1: Sarah at the Beijing Normal University, not the abnormal University

849
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: in Beijing, the much more highly reputable normal one. She

850
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: sent us the beautiful stuff you should know paper cuts,

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00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: uh and the charms right, yes, very nice. Um. Tyler

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00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: Murphy for not just the North Dakota wine, but tons

853
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: of other things. Great gifts over the years. And also

854
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: steady unflagging support for us through emails and thoughts and

855
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: tweets all that stuff. Thanks a lot. Taller was a

856
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: great guy doing fighting the good fight by being a

857
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Speaker 1: public school teacher. Yeah that's right. Daniel from checkniflo for

858
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: the sound Still series necklaces because they're awesome. Yeah, they're

859
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Speaker 1: really cool. You can find those at uh check niflow

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00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: that is t e c h n I flow design

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Speaker 1: dot com, or just go to Etsy where you could

862
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: find all this stuff usually. Uh Talia send us a

863
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: postcard from Canada. Lisa Harrish sent us some banana candies.

864
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Speaker 1: Thanks guys. We got another postcard and invitation actually from

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Speaker 1: Emily Crawford to stand Hewitt Hall and Akron, Ohio and

866
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: stand Hewitt is a very famous place and Acron it's

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Speaker 1: sort of like they're built more House and it's gorgeous

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Speaker 1: and um. Sadly Emily's parents moved down here, so I'm

869
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Speaker 1: not going to Acron much anymore. Well, we could still

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Speaker 1: go for stan Hewitt Hall, all right. Uh Read Wilson

871
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Speaker 1: of Read Wilson Design, which you can find it read

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Speaker 1: Wilson Design dot com. Send us some really awesome doormats

873
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Speaker 1: and coasters. Yea, the good stuff, man, go check it out.

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Speaker 1: Read Wilson Design dot com. He's got a lot of

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00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: really cool ideas. Abby sent us a letter and a drawing,

876
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: and she wrote in to let us know how to

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Speaker 1: pronounce bus salts correctly? Am I saying it right? I

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Speaker 1: don't remember we said basalt basil and I think it's

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Speaker 1: a basalt. Yeah uh? And happy birthday Abby? Uh? Good

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Speaker 1: looking high school yes for both of us. U. Alan

881
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: Barrington Hughes sent us a Reaper sauce from pucker Butt

882
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: based on our Chili Pepper episode. I have not gone

883
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: anywhere near it. I tasted it and burned a hole

884
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: clean through my tongue. So if you're into the really

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00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: hot stuff and you think you have what it takes,

886
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: I dare you to give it a show. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: Um Whitley, thank you for the pencil colored art. It's

888
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: really cool. And we're guessing that it's Darwin and McCarthy.

889
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: That's our best guest, okay, and I think we're right. Um.

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Speaker 1: Dawson's Hot Sauce from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada sent us some

891
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: really great hot sauces. Um. My favorite was the garlican

892
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: hall OPENO. That was good stuff. Carol Chan, thank you

893
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: for the rat race Millionaire I guess written by your

894
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: husband Michael Hunk, and also the three knitted rats. Who

895
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Speaker 1: doesn't love a knitted rat? Know what? That's why she

896
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: included them? Agreed um? And then Robin and Aaron sent

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00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: us to St. Louis Arch postcard. Thanks for that, guy.

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Speaker 1: Alison McDougall, thank you for the c d s of

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Speaker 1: your husband's one man band, who also doesn't love a

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Speaker 1: one man band? And you can listen to that at

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Speaker 1: mcdoug McDougall music dot com with two l's and just

902
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: mc not m macy. Yeah, of course it's the traditional spelling.

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00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 1: I think that's it man. I think we're essentially caught

904
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: up on administrative details, so guys were now we need

905
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Speaker 1: more stuff. Thanks as always everyone who's kind enough to

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Speaker 1: take the time. It's oh hey, thanks to Nate today

907
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: at H and F Burger downstairs for compying my lunch. Nice.

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Speaker 1: I went down there to eat a meal and he

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Speaker 1: comes by and goes Charles W. Chuck Bryant and I went,

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Speaker 1: I know what that means, but he's the GM at

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Speaker 1: home and Finch their restaurant group and I went to

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00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: leave and they were like, no, it's on a nice

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Speaker 1: Did he send you a burger for me? No, but

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Speaker 1: I would advise you going down there and just like

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Speaker 1: kind of just kind of staying around the counter, training

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Speaker 1: your neck around, stand under the TV with me on it. Right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So thanks Nate. Uh, he didn't even know we were

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Speaker 1: in this building. Oh yeah, you listen more closely, Nate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I said. We talked about it basically all

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Speaker 1: the time. He won't even hear this. Uh. If you

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Speaker 1: want to get in touches us, you can just send

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Speaker 1: us high You don't have to send us anything. UM.

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Speaker 1: You can say hi, um, but not have to say

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Speaker 1: hi because it's been done. You can tweet to us

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