Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen that Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us again as usual, We're so excited
Speaker 1: to be back.
Speaker 2: We are so excited to be back. And how have
Speaker 2: you been doing, Susan good? Yes, yes, good, good good? Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: be sure to check out our latest episode. We've been
Speaker 2: having so much fun answer your questions and chatting with
Speaker 2: you with all your Bachelor Nation faves.
Speaker 1: And today I'm so excited we have a very special guest.
Speaker 1: Please welcome from our season of Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Teresa. Hi.
Speaker 3: Hi, Susan Hi.
Speaker 2: Tersa. Well, we have so much that we want to
Speaker 2: dive into today, so let's get things started. First of all, Teresa,
Speaker 2: you look absolutely gorgeous, your color so nice.
Speaker 1: You're doing the hair the way I suggested.
Speaker 2: I love. Don't think I didn't notice.
Speaker 3: I think I didn't live.
Speaker 2: You look great. Okay, so recently got to know I
Speaker 2: haven't seen you in a bit. Just a wink here,
Speaker 2: But what have you been up to? What's new in
Speaker 2: your life? Tell us?
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, so much. You know, when I got
Speaker 3: off the show, I went back to my normal life
Speaker 3: with my beautiful family and my grandsons, and and then
Speaker 3: just recently though, I have had a whirlwind. July and
Speaker 3: Jinny so well, you and Leslie were all filming the
Speaker 3: show Paradise. I reached out to Susan. I said, why
Speaker 3: don't we get together, you know.
Speaker 2: Let's do it and a great time.
Speaker 3: Couldn't do it until June twenty first, amazing weekend. We
Speaker 3: had such a wonderful friend. And yeah, Susan was able
Speaker 3: to take advantage of my case I was.
Speaker 2: Dead and the air condition.
Speaker 3: I sort, I've lived for fourteen years with no air.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Wait a minute, she Susan, you did
Speaker 2: without air condier No, no, no, you didn't, hear she.
Speaker 1: I got to take advantage of the king sized bed
Speaker 1: and the air condition. I even made Teresa film me
Speaker 1: laying on the king size and send it to Gary.
Speaker 2: Wow. Well I'm going to have to move to the
Speaker 2: East coast, Teresa, so I can come and sleep in that.
Speaker 3: Ye. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we heard that maybe you're in a relationship.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not. There was something, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: bring me, so i'm not. And actually right now I'm
Speaker 3: not really actively looking. If it happens, it happens, I'm
Speaker 3: very at peace with my life. I'm happier now than
Speaker 3: I've ever been. And I don't think I have to
Speaker 3: tell you girls how wonderful it's been, how much this
Speaker 3: show enriched our lives, just for people stopping us in
Speaker 3: the street, just the community we get on Instagram, and
Speaker 3: so I know, it's just so it's been so fulfilling
Speaker 3: that way. Yeah, So yeah, I'm not actively.
Speaker 1: And Theresa, wouldn't you say things are different that you
Speaker 1: look for in a relationship now at this age than
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean, well, twenty five years ago, you're looking
Speaker 3: to start a family, You're young, and you have you
Speaker 3: have different goals in mind. And now we're so much
Speaker 3: more at peace and at ease with ourselves, and we
Speaker 3: really want to enjoy life. We want to have fun.
Speaker 3: We know the value of having fun because we don't
Speaker 3: know when.
Speaker 2: A last day is well. And Theresa, I know how
Speaker 2: close you are with your daughter and your grandkids. And
Speaker 2: I'm the same way, Susan. I've talked a lot. I
Speaker 2: don't know about you, but don't you just love having
Speaker 2: friends and having girlfriends to do things within your daughter
Speaker 2: and your grandkids. I mean, I actually you know love
Speaker 2: that and you, as you know, I roomed with Leslie
Speaker 2: and Paradise, Yes, and we sort of rekindled our friendship.
Speaker 2: And I know how close you guys are, don't you
Speaker 2: sort of enjoy that that with friends and we just
Speaker 2: go out to see her.
Speaker 3: Yes, I just wanted to see her. So will I
Speaker 3: will say this that Leslie felt the same way about you, Kathy.
Speaker 3: She said it was wonderful rooming with you and rekindling
Speaker 3: your friendship. And so I did want to say that
Speaker 3: I had a whirl one time because after Susan left,
Speaker 3: then I went to visit my son in South Carolina,
Speaker 3: and then I went to visit Leslie in Minneapolis, and
Speaker 3: then I had Peggy at my house. So it's been nonstoff.
Speaker 3: I'm so tired because I've got home last Thursday at
Speaker 3: four o'clock in the morning and I still haven't caught
Speaker 3: up with my fleet.
Speaker 2: But right, and you look great. If this is you tired, Teresa,
Speaker 2: you do it well because you look really pretty.
Speaker 3: Say but going thank you? But going so do you
Speaker 3: and going back to you know, girlfriends. Yes, tonight, I'm
Speaker 3: going right from work. I'm going to go home, put
Speaker 3: on a pickleball outfit. Then I'm going dinner with my friends,
Speaker 3: so and then and then I've been invited to go
Speaker 3: see Mom and Me on Broadway, going with another friend.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wanted to I can't go. Wait have
Speaker 2: you played golf lately? Have you?
Speaker 3: No? Because I've been away. So I just reached out
Speaker 3: to all of my golf girlfriends and I said, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm ready. I'm back, and I'm back. I'm playing pickball.
Speaker 3: I'm going to play outdoor pickleball with someone else on Saturday.
Speaker 3: So I feel like I have a very full life.
Speaker 2: Yes, wait, wait to say, have you taken up pickleball seriously?
Speaker 3: Since no, I wish I could say I had, But
Speaker 3: I take a lesson and then I don't play, and
Speaker 3: so it's sporadic. So I just need to keep at
Speaker 3: it and be consistent with.
Speaker 2: It having Yeah, what do you like better? Golf or pickleball?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good question.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take golf.
Speaker 3: I have to play golf.
Speaker 2: Well, you got to come to Austin. We'll all play
Speaker 2: golf together, because I do.
Speaker 3: I want to do that. That would be amazing, exactly,
Speaker 3: it was really hot right now, Yes.
Speaker 2: What do you think? So? Far about Paradise.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I love it. It's so much, it's
Speaker 3: so good. There's so many things to talk about in Paradise.
Speaker 3: When you talk about the young people and you talk
Speaker 3: about the old people, and I will say, Teresa, the
Speaker 3: most beautiful people.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Teresa.
Speaker 3: I do want to say, well, I'm proud of every
Speaker 3: one in of you who are on the show. You're
Speaker 3: doing a tremendous job. And then I just want to
Speaker 3: say that the first episode, and I even know if
Speaker 3: you notice this, that it's they seem to trivialize you
Speaker 3: guys coming on saying oh, aren't you cute? And look
Speaker 3: at them in their cute outfits. And I was a
Speaker 3: little bit taken aback by that. But the next episode
Speaker 3: they redeem them, redeem themselves, and it just seemed like
Speaker 3: there was much camaraderie amongst the groups. And it's just
Speaker 3: really interesting seeing and Kathy, Well, what you've done. That's
Speaker 3: really funny. You have some really good luck, some of
Speaker 3: them so funny.
Speaker 2: Well, Teresa, I zip it was just the beginning of
Speaker 2: my one liner, but I have to say, I think
Speaker 2: you're right, Teresa. I think people well, first of all,
Speaker 2: I want to know, did you why didn't you come
Speaker 2: to Paradise? Can I ask that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So at first I was really so excited, and
Speaker 3: then I realized that the reason I was so excited
Speaker 3: is because I wanted the reunion with all the women,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know exactly who was going to be on.
Speaker 3: But then I looked at the men and I didn't
Speaker 3: see a match for myself. So I didn't want to
Speaker 3: go on and not be true to myself and maybe
Speaker 3: take the attention away from someone else or not. And
Speaker 3: I thought, let me just sit back and enjoy others,
Speaker 3: you guys being here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. I mean I felt I felt the
Speaker 2: same way too when Garret up Gary that was Freud
Speaker 2: did what Keith said on the show, he had no
Speaker 2: romantic interest in me, and we had talked about that,
Speaker 2: but I don't. Wouldn't you all agree that at our age,
Speaker 2: having close friendships with guys and with women and our children,
Speaker 2: all of that is just as important as having a
Speaker 2: romantic connection.
Speaker 3: You know, you're right, So after I'm seeing it, I
Speaker 3: probably would have gone on. If I thought of it
Speaker 3: that way, that we could have just formed a friendship,
Speaker 3: then absolutely I would have gone on.
Speaker 1: So why think of it, Because Paradise is about poking
Speaker 1: up and being falling in love with somebody, just like
Speaker 1: our show.
Speaker 3: Right, So that's what I thought it was. And I thought,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of pressure to be in a relationship.
Speaker 3: But if yes and so, but if I could have
Speaker 3: thought of that way, let's just be friends, then yes,
Speaker 3: I would have gone absolutely.
Speaker 2: I mean I went, just to be clear, I went
Speaker 2: Teresa and hoping that to love, to find love. But
Speaker 2: then when I got there and I realized, no, this
Speaker 2: really is just friendship. And then I just started thinking
Speaker 2: how important, you know, friendship is with women. And that's
Speaker 2: what I love about the Goldens from our show. We've
Speaker 2: all I wish we got to see each other more.
Speaker 2: I still think, Susan, and I'm putting you in charge
Speaker 2: or you to so you're really the organizer. Okay, we
Speaker 2: need to have a big reunion with everyone. Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: we don't have to invite Gary we Speaking of which,
Speaker 2: I wonder about this book. What do you think about
Speaker 2: the book coming out?
Speaker 3: Anxious to see what he's going to say in the book.
Speaker 2: He's only going to say nice things about you.
Speaker 3: Actually, what are you going to say in the book?
Speaker 3: He said, oh, well, you know I wanted a contract.
Speaker 3: I can't say anything, so yes, it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of wait, can I share something?
Speaker 1: He sent a text that his book is coming out
Speaker 1: this fall, I think November. It's going to go fast,
Speaker 1: so reserve yours now. And Nancy text him and said, well, Gary,
Speaker 1: I think it would be lovely if you gave all
Speaker 1: of us Goldens a copy.
Speaker 2: And he needn't respond, and then Theresa, I think you
Speaker 2: know that Gary dated Christina from our show for a while.
Speaker 3: I know that, but I mean a while ago. I'm
Speaker 3: actually the one who suggested he go out with Christina.
Speaker 2: Susan so did the same thing. I said, So they
Speaker 2: went out.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 2: They went out for like six months. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 2: oh yeah, and he let her read part of the
Speaker 2: book and yeah he did and and yeah, and I said,
Speaker 2: he better said things about all of us, and so
Speaker 2: who goes.
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: So he said, we get a book, will you autographic
Speaker 2: for us?
Speaker 3: I will, and I'll give you a copy.
Speaker 1: What about your thoughts on mel the next Golden?
Speaker 3: Oh it's really funny. So when that podcast first came out,
Speaker 3: I actually created a video in response to him, and
Speaker 3: I never put it up, but it was very sarcastic,
Speaker 3: and it was you know, I know, I ad hear
Speaker 3: that you you really only want to do it. There
Speaker 3: was forty five to sixty. And I don't blame you
Speaker 3: because we're all all intocrypted, because everybody's.
Speaker 2: You think he meant, Teresa.
Speaker 3: I think what you know? Honestly, look at all the
Speaker 3: men who were on Jones season, all with younger women.
Speaker 3: I think it's the way of the world. So I
Speaker 3: think that what mel was doing was some type of prejudice.
Speaker 3: He was prejudging per a woman of that age and
Speaker 3: just discounting every one of them as though they would
Speaker 3: not be a viable partner for him. I know that
Speaker 3: that he will most likely apologize, say that he was wrong.
Speaker 3: Look at these women because they're all gorgeous. But he's
Speaker 3: going to episode. He doesn't have a choice. He can't
Speaker 3: go on this show and continue without acknowledging what he did.
Speaker 3: There's no way he can.
Speaker 2: Do that, right, So what would your advice be for
Speaker 2: the women? I mean, if what would you like for
Speaker 2: the women on the show, it.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be so tough, and I would, you know, I
Speaker 3: would say, hey, maybe I don't even want you like
Speaker 3: you have to prove yourself to me, Like why they
Speaker 3: should just be themselves And I'm sure they are lovely, beautiful, gorgeous,
Speaker 3: accomplished women and he will just see them for who
Speaker 3: they are and see how wonderful they are. So what
Speaker 3: would they do? Yeah, it can't be that he's the
Speaker 3: one that's only judging them. They have the right to
Speaker 3: decide whether or not they should be there.
Speaker 2: And but seriously, if Teresa, if you were one of
Speaker 2: the women on the show, and you're beautiful and you
Speaker 2: don't like your age, you could have been one of
Speaker 2: the women, what would you have said to him?
Speaker 3: I would say, it's so nice to meet you, and
Speaker 3: what you said was very offensive and very and you
Speaker 3: as knowledge narrow minded, and I really would like you
Speaker 3: to acknowledge it and to you know, apologize.
Speaker 2: But would did you believe him if you were apologized? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Not would you believe the apology? But
Speaker 2: would you believe that he could really be interested in
Speaker 2: because like I said, you're a you're a you know,
Speaker 2: a beautiful woman.
Speaker 3: Yes, he has right, he has apologized, But what I accept? Yes,
Speaker 3: I would. I would. I take everyone in face value,
Speaker 3: and I like to second guess anyone. And if they're
Speaker 3: telling me that, they apologize, and I will accept that
Speaker 3: and I will believe them that I will. I like
Speaker 3: to only believe the good and everyone.
Speaker 1: So yeah, looking back on your time when you were
Speaker 1: on the Golden Bachelor, what a piece of advice you
Speaker 1: would have given yourself back then.
Speaker 3: That's so easy. It would really be to really be myself,
Speaker 3: which I wasn't. I was not myself. I was very
Speaker 3: I was very closed off. I didn't express my joy,
Speaker 3: I didn't express my laughter. And so yes, to be
Speaker 3: to be war myself. And I know that you were
Speaker 3: able to do that. I think Kathy was able to
Speaker 3: do it. It just wasn't me.
Speaker 1: And has your view on love and relationships changed since then?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at it absolutely.
Speaker 3: I you know, before I went on the show, I
Speaker 3: did date a lot. I was on the dating apps
Speaker 3: mainly matched and I will tell you I want to
Speaker 3: hunt on hundreds of dates and nobody was ever the
Speaker 3: right place.
Speaker 2: Wait for me, Wait, did you see hundreds of days?
Speaker 2: I can lift overs please.
Speaker 3: On a Friday night a restaurant, and then the next
Speaker 3: time I go on a date with someone else at
Speaker 3: the same restaurant, and.
Speaker 2: Did you find it exhausted?
Speaker 3: Yes, so I gave up. I said, it's.
Speaker 2: Day lunch and dinner or lunch drinks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I was done.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of us have the same story.
Speaker 3: And then when this came along, I thought, well, they're
Speaker 3: gonna scour the whole United States for the best person,
Speaker 3: so let's put it in their hands. And I'm not
Speaker 3: as anxious or you know, I'm not looking for it.
Speaker 3: I'm not actively looking for it. But if it happened,
Speaker 3: it would be wonderful.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a question, and this is maybe an
Speaker 2: uncomfortable question, but I've always been curious about it. Forget
Speaker 2: where you and Gary got to do you do you
Speaker 2: think things might have played out differently with him? I
Speaker 2: was gonna say, Teresa, I I know how hard it
Speaker 2: was for you and Gary, but I appreciate your honesty
Speaker 2: because I mean, you can never know what would happen.
Speaker 2: I think, as you said, you and Gary probably wouldn't
Speaker 2: have ended it up together just based on your personalities.
Speaker 2: But I think you know you taught a lot of us.
Speaker 2: You gave us a hard lesson for you, but a
Speaker 2: good lesson for the rest of us, And can take
Speaker 2: in our time and making sure it's the right guy, and.
Speaker 3: I mean the right line. There's so much to be
Speaker 3: said about living in close proximity to the person. It's
Speaker 3: very difficult to have a long distance. Susan knows it's
Speaker 3: difficult doing it.
Speaker 2: And I wonder about Joanan Chalk, don't you care.
Speaker 3: I feel the same way as you. I wonder about them,
Speaker 3: and I hope that it's working out for them and
Speaker 3: maybe when they yeah, they will live.
Speaker 2: I got through Theresa. I always say, like I said
Speaker 2: to the guys in Paradise, I say anyone who asked
Speaker 2: me I'm the goofball that if I found the guy
Speaker 2: I love now, I might draw the line at the
Speaker 2: cornfields of Indiana, I will. I'm with you. I'm with you, Theresa,
Speaker 2: But I'm with the girl who would pick up and move. Susan,
Speaker 2: I had the girl to pick would pick up and
Speaker 2: move to Saint Martin and say, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know that's going to work unless I if you
Speaker 2: were working like Chalk's working, right, So either that or
Speaker 2: doing what you and Gary were going to do, which
Speaker 2: is moved to a new place. But I don't see
Speaker 2: how a long distance relationship works over time.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, Kathy, it really is so difficult.
Speaker 2: I want everyone to hear that to take well.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm telling you what's my long distance. It
Speaker 1: is difficult. Five weeks is the longest we've gone and
Speaker 1: it sucks. But ideally, eventually, when one of us don't work,
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Spend the summers there, it's too hot.
Speaker 1: I think ideally he could come up here in the
Speaker 1: summer and I could live there in the winter.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yes, that'd be amazing.
Speaker 2: Theresa, I have a big question.
Speaker 1: It is no secret that you and Kathy had drama
Speaker 1: on The Golden Bachelor. This is your first time with us,
Speaker 1: so we have to let our fans know. Now that
Speaker 1: it's been two years, looking back on it, what do
Speaker 1: you both think about it now?
Speaker 3: I will say that I wish I had known what
Speaker 3: Kathy had gone through with our husband. I did not
Speaker 3: know that. You know, I know that, and I did
Speaker 3: think that Kathy was my best friend in the house,
Speaker 3: and I did tell her those things in you know, confidence.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that anyone else knew what I said,
Speaker 3: and I never you know, if Kathy had known that,
Speaker 3: I was so hesitant to even go and that I
Speaker 3: wasn't really looking to be the person I wasn't. I
Speaker 3: was so excited about that date because I kept thinking,
Speaker 3: I'm not moving to Indiana. But when he said off,
Speaker 3: he zaid, I'm sick of the lake. I'm sick of
Speaker 3: taking a boat in and out of lake. I want
Speaker 3: to move to Charleston. A light bulb on off of
Speaker 3: my head. And that's what got me so excited. Oh well,
Speaker 3: maybe this is meant to be because my son lives
Speaker 3: in South Carolina, so that I got so many women
Speaker 3: in my life, my daughter, my daughter in law, my
Speaker 3: two sisters, all my friends, and I had no one
Speaker 3: to tell it to, and I thought I was telling
Speaker 3: only Kathy, and I didn't know well.
Speaker 2: And I will say, I just want a clear boy thing.
Speaker 2: First of all, with Teresa and I have you and
Speaker 2: I have seen each other. This is the first time
Speaker 2: you are on our podcast, but this is not the
Speaker 2: first time you have talked. We've talked on the phone,
Speaker 2: We've been together in DC, and I think, you know,
Speaker 2: I think none of us were really totally ourselves on
Speaker 2: that show. And I but I what I want listeners,
Speaker 2: what I think about it Susan, you asked, I think
Speaker 2: that you can grow at any time in your life
Speaker 2: and Teresa, and Teresa, I think you would agree with me.
Speaker 2: I would like to see more of you. I wish
Speaker 2: we live closer.
Speaker 1: I wish she was jealous because she can't come. She
Speaker 1: hasn't been invited yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm coming. I'm just saying I think that, and
Speaker 2: you're welcome to come to Texas. We'll we'll, we'll find
Speaker 2: you about a big ten gallon hat and boots. Yes,
Speaker 2: I think I think you know.
Speaker 3: We just needed to know each other better. We were strangers.
Speaker 3: It's almost like you're in a car and you're getting
Speaker 3: mad another driver for cutting you off. It's an impersonal situation.
Speaker 3: So that's really why I shut up after that. I
Speaker 3: really got closed off after that incident. I felt like
Speaker 3: I couldn't say anything, and I don't think anyone to
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Teresa.
Speaker 3: I wish I had known your story. You never shared
Speaker 3: that with me about your husband, none of us.
Speaker 2: Do you mean about my husband's suicide?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought I had told you no, But you
Speaker 2: know what that that is just a part of my
Speaker 2: life and as I've said along like, you know, it
Speaker 2: was married almost forty six years and no, you and
Speaker 2: I did talk about there's no perfect marriage, right, but yeah, suicide,
Speaker 2: but you lost your husband, death of a partner changes you.
Speaker 2: And then it's finding your way back to the light.
Speaker 2: And I think, Teresa, you and I have both found
Speaker 2: our way back to the light. And that's why I
Speaker 2: celebrate that.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I think life is agreeing with both of you because
Speaker 1: both of you look radiant and beautiful and those smiles
Speaker 1: are worth.
Speaker 2: And so do you.
Speaker 3: How nice of you to say that, thank you.
Speaker 1: Anything you're looking forward to and then your future, any
Speaker 1: any exciting plans.
Speaker 3: You know what. I'm just looking forward to continuing to
Speaker 3: either reconnect with all of you and to continue the
Speaker 3: friendships that we have and to grow with the you know,
Speaker 3: the people that I talked to online. I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you do too. I've made really, really good friends.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a sense of community. I've been
Speaker 3: hesitant about sponsoring products. I would say that that's been
Speaker 3: a problem of mine, and I think I might go,
Speaker 3: I'm good with you, I might start doing it if
Speaker 3: I need products that I actually use or I would
Speaker 3: use so that's that's been the issue for me. But
Speaker 3: you know, I probably will venture out more and say
Speaker 3: more about the things that I do in my life,
Speaker 3: you know, the health health wise, maybe talk about stuff
Speaker 3: market about my gardening, like I.
Speaker 2: Really to the beach.
Speaker 3: I had to Oh my god, this is terrible. I
Speaker 3: just got a.
Speaker 2: Teresa. I was going to say, you look like you
Speaker 2: have a tan. But I have to say to you
Speaker 2: when you talk about selling stuff online, do you remember
Speaker 2: I don't know if I said it to you, but
Speaker 2: I've said to a lot of people like I'm not
Speaker 2: selling toothpicks online like I handed to you. Teresa. You stand,
Speaker 2: you stand behind that way. You're believable, stand on what
Speaker 2: you believe.
Speaker 1: Right right, we're talking about people in cars, remember us
Speaker 1: saying going down the road.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm very surprised Susan didn't get a speeding ticket.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, she got that after your house. Okay, we're
Speaker 2: going to move along. We're going to move along to
Speaker 2: the question of the day. So here we go, uh Tosa,
Speaker 2: We love your thoughts on this, so this is our
Speaker 2: advice section of the episode. Also, we're gonna kick it
Speaker 2: off with the question today. Okay, here we go. It
Speaker 2: feels like everything is a sign that you're getting older,
Speaker 2: from bad hangovers to sore joints. What was the moment
Speaker 2: that you felt like you were officially entering your golden years?
Speaker 2: What was transformation that transformation like for you? And Toisa?
Speaker 2: You better think carefully because I know my answer.
Speaker 3: And that's a really tough question for me, because I
Speaker 3: feel ageless. I really feel I feel.
Speaker 2: Is I even my answer?
Speaker 3: I feel that getting old is a choice. We can
Speaker 3: choose to look old and old and old attitudes.
Speaker 2: Reason, give me five right through the computer. Give me
Speaker 2: five there, Yes it was. I haven't made the transformation.
Speaker 2: I don't feel old. You look beautiful. We're jed. If
Speaker 2: we're not, we're not you know, we're not.
Speaker 3: Always possibilities in our lives. We don't feel good. I
Speaker 3: really did you know? When people say online to me, well,
Speaker 3: they say to me a lot, you're dress too short,
Speaker 3: there is too long, And I want to say, and
Speaker 3: I look at the person, I say, but you decided
Speaker 3: to become old. I didn't. And if you can carry
Speaker 3: it off, and if it makes I say, whatever makes
Speaker 3: you happens happy to each his very own, I will
Speaker 3: not intrude on what you do if as long as
Speaker 3: you're not farming anybody else in this world.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but don't you really makes you happy? Don't you? Wait? Yes,
Speaker 2: exactly right.
Speaker 1: And Teresa and Kathy, don't you both agree? As we
Speaker 1: did get older and we're in our golden years, we
Speaker 1: don't care as much what people think. That's the one
Speaker 1: thing that I've noticed major change in me. I don't
Speaker 1: really care what you think.
Speaker 2: Teresa, did you always care what people thought of you?
Speaker 3: Because okay, so well I always did care, But me too.
Speaker 3: I agree with Kathy. I'm sorry with Susan that now
Speaker 3: I don't care. So I'm the oldest person in my office,
Speaker 3: and these young people they'll be afraid to confront someoney
Speaker 3: and go just give it to me. I'll just do it.
Speaker 3: I really don't care. I'm over fifty, i'm over sixty,
Speaker 3: I'm over seventy. I don't care.
Speaker 1: That's the major change I think that I.
Speaker 3: Think they're right. You know when I should have said
Speaker 3: that I agree with you completely.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, so I'm an odd man out here because
Speaker 2: I really I never cared. I did, but not as
Speaker 2: much as probably I should have. If we're being honest.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I always felt. But it's what
Speaker 2: Susan wore talking about earlier. Teresa, I used to in
Speaker 2: my younger years say exactly what I thought. Now actually
Speaker 2: I do care what I say, and I really try
Speaker 2: to temper believe it or not. I try to temper
Speaker 2: what I say and be much kinder because I know
Speaker 2: that my delivery sometimes can be tough. So now I
Speaker 2: think more about what I'm going to say. I'm going
Speaker 2: to say amazing.
Speaker 3: So you're learning and grow, continuing to.
Speaker 2: Grow, and that's the thing I could I plan to do.
Speaker 2: And in fact, you're absolutely right, Like I think your
Speaker 2: hair is beautiful. If I could wear long hair, I would.
Speaker 2: I love that you you do the things that make
Speaker 2: you happy. We should all do those.
Speaker 3: Things and my hair if that makes me happy, right right?
Speaker 2: But my point is why should someone else. I think
Speaker 2: that we've all got to the point where we're like,
Speaker 2: what's it to you that I have long hair or
Speaker 2: that I wear They.
Speaker 1: Have opinions and they're very opinionated online.
Speaker 2: They have come their computer.
Speaker 3: But don't you get a kick out of them sometimes,
Speaker 3: Like you get a kick out of them that there
Speaker 3: is interesting to hear what people have to say.
Speaker 2: And sometimes have a question does it bother you? Because
Speaker 2: people ask me this all the time. Does it bother you?
Speaker 2: If you hear negative comments about yourself online?
Speaker 3: Really bother me? It doesn't right If if several people
Speaker 3: are saying the same things, then maybe I have to
Speaker 3: look at what they're talking about and maybe it's legitimate.
Speaker 2: But I've don't know so they don't know you to me, but.
Speaker 3: I'm saying about my apperance. But I have a daughter
Speaker 3: who is really stressed. Sets me straight on every day.
Speaker 3: She'll say, no on that looks bad, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: put a different broad Oh my god, do this? What
Speaker 3: did you do with your.
Speaker 2: Because she sounds like my daughter? Tell y'all.
Speaker 1: Brittany used the line, mom, never wear that again, and
Speaker 1: I repeat that to people.
Speaker 2: What I feel like that My daughter nurse and my
Speaker 2: granddaughter came yesterday and my daughter is like your daughter.
Speaker 2: We're very close. And she looked at me and out
Speaker 2: of the clear blue we're just walking last night down
Speaker 2: the street. She goes, Mom, I've turned into you that you.
Speaker 3: Love hearing that, that's so fantastic because my daughter did too.
Speaker 3: She's a gardener. She eats like me. I didn't tell
Speaker 3: her do any of these things? Great? Oh, it's great,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: So we're going to get into the advice part, Teresa.
Speaker 1: What we do is read some things that people write
Speaker 1: in and they need some advice, and we'd like you
Speaker 1: to share yours.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So we constantly get write ins from goldens that have
Speaker 1: lost their partners and are grappling and getting back out there.
Speaker 1: It's hard for them. I know, what advice would you
Speaker 1: give them?
Speaker 2: Number one? And what do you.
Speaker 1: Think really helped both of you when you were navigating
Speaker 1: dating again. Also, what advice do you have for those
Speaker 1: that are struggling with even being ready to find love again?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I was going to start with that,
Speaker 3: I would say, the first thing you have to do
Speaker 3: is really make sure you are ready, because I know
Speaker 3: when I grieved, if there's a grieving process, and I cried,
Speaker 3: and Kathy probably will say the same thing. I cried
Speaker 3: every single day, and then I felt every day and
Speaker 3: I felt mad, and I was sad, and I regretted
Speaker 3: these I didn't do. And I think it was a
Speaker 3: full almost two years, and so be absolutely ready. And
Speaker 3: the moment I was ready, it was New Year's Eve,
Speaker 3: and I said to my daughter, you know what, I
Speaker 3: just want to have dinner with a man. So maybe
Speaker 3: and she put me on matage and maybe just do
Speaker 3: it that way to start out with friendships, even if
Speaker 3: you go on a dating app, and I think that's
Speaker 3: probably the easiest way to connect with people, even if
Speaker 3: you're just going to be friends. Don't look at it
Speaker 3: as though this has to be a romantic connection. Go
Speaker 3: out and meet people and then join groups as things
Speaker 3: you're interested in, and just even have the mindset that
Speaker 3: you are open and then your attitude, your attitude will
Speaker 3: project to other people and smile at people. That's the
Speaker 3: hardest thing I had is that you know to make
Speaker 3: eye contact with someone you know then and then smile
Speaker 3: at them.
Speaker 2: Friends.
Speaker 3: I am a male male, Yeah I do, I do.
Speaker 2: I have a few, But I find the men that
Speaker 2: wanted they don't want friends, they want to day.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, if you start out thinking it doesn't have
Speaker 3: to be a romantic connection, just to go out, and
Speaker 3: so if it doesn't work out, then you just say
Speaker 3: you were a lovely person. I just don't think we're
Speaker 3: the right person for each other. But you're right, most
Speaker 3: men don't. But I got into conversations with men. I
Speaker 3: mean I became some of their therapists.
Speaker 1: That's right, right, But your advice would be, make sure
Speaker 1: you're ready. And while is there a moment like you said,
Speaker 1: New Year's you got up and said I want to
Speaker 1: have dinner with you?
Speaker 2: How about you?
Speaker 1: What was the moment that you decided, okay, it's time
Speaker 1: to move on?
Speaker 2: Well, Teresa, you're absolutely right. I think I had my
Speaker 2: first date before I was ready. So when was I
Speaker 2: really ready? You guys aren't going to believe me. I
Speaker 2: don't think I was really ready till I went on
Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor. And it wasn't even going on the show.
Speaker 2: It was meeting all of you and hearing your stories
Speaker 2: and sort of reflecting on my own life. I thought,
Speaker 2: you know what kind of if they can do it,
Speaker 2: I can do it. I don't know if that makes sense,
Speaker 2: but I just felt the camaraderie of other because when
Speaker 2: my husband died, Teresa, to your point, I cried every day,
Speaker 2: and I remember I could cry now, and I remember
Speaker 2: saying to my husband, to my therapist, will there ever
Speaker 2: be a day where I don't cry? And she said yes,
Speaker 2: but it's not today. So I think for me. It
Speaker 2: really was going to the Bachelor and seeing these women
Speaker 2: that were all in our our age range and hearing
Speaker 2: your stories and thinking I can do this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's that's really great. And you know what,
Speaker 3: you can hear a lot from me about me being
Speaker 3: upset about my husband because I felt that I had
Speaker 3: gone through the greeding process. I was, I was done,
Speaker 3: and it's so it never came up for me as
Speaker 3: an issue and it almost looked like, oh, did she
Speaker 3: like her husband or buck, But no, it did.
Speaker 2: I never felt that way. I never felt that way.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought the part of your story, Teresa,
Speaker 2: that I remember was talking about, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if I learned this on the show or after the show,
Speaker 2: that you were married very young and you were married
Speaker 2: in the basement of the church. Is that right now?
Speaker 3: The basis of my mom my mom, my mother and
Speaker 3: dad home.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't a fancy wedding.
Speaker 3: And oh, actually I got married in church, in a
Speaker 3: Catholic church, but the reception was in our basement.
Speaker 2: Yeah right. And I remember you saying it was you
Speaker 2: were very young and it wasn't a big fancy wedding.
Speaker 2: I just remember the use talking about you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I said that, Yeah, that's true. And then
Speaker 3: I immediately went to Berlin and lived there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh my god, wait, I didn't know that. I
Speaker 2: really got married and we moved to Scotland. Really wow,
Speaker 2: we're still learning. I did not know that.
Speaker 3: And how long did you live in Scotland?
Speaker 2: Two years? My husband was an officer in the navy.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, my husband was drafted during the Vietnam War,
Speaker 3: so it was only there.
Speaker 2: I knew that, but I didn't know. You want to
Speaker 2: live in Berlin? Did you like?
Speaker 3: It was amazing? I loved it. I remember standing on
Speaker 3: a corner street corner, going, this is a once in
Speaker 3: a lifetime experience. I will never be here again. I
Speaker 3: have to really save ry this month.
Speaker 2: How were you there, Teresa?
Speaker 3: Just nine months? It was only nine months, and you
Speaker 3: won't believe this. While I was there, I was in
Speaker 3: an army in production of the Man of La Mancha
Speaker 3: and I was the lead Aldeliza, and I didn't don't
Speaker 3: have it on film. It was tremendous. They were all
Speaker 3: the is very talented people who were drafted, choreographer, singers, dancers,
Speaker 3: and at the end of it, a group to these
Speaker 3: two men came up to me and said they wanted
Speaker 3: me to be the lead singer in their group.
Speaker 2: You can, yes, we can. I have Frank Sinatra in.
Speaker 3: The car and you used to be I can sing. Okay.
Speaker 3: I just turned to tack because I was so homesick
Speaker 3: for what Jersey City?
Speaker 2: Yeah right right right there.
Speaker 1: Said now that you we've gotten to ask you all
Speaker 1: kinds of questions, we want to open the.
Speaker 2: Floor up to you.
Speaker 1: Do you have any questions for Kathy or I?
Speaker 2: Okay? Yes? Actually did you write them down?
Speaker 3: You knew?
Speaker 2: Oh god? Okay, go I have wine?
Speaker 3: Yes, I should have some. You have wine?
Speaker 2: I don't have one. I need wine. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: What do you feel, Kathy would make you happy at
Speaker 3: this point in your life? What are you looking for?
Speaker 2: You know, Teresa, that is such a good question, and
Speaker 2: the answer is different now than it was six or
Speaker 2: seven months ago. I would love to find the guy
Speaker 2: to travel a way, to go out for dinner with.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm cut out to get married again
Speaker 2: and spend twenty four to seven with a man. I
Speaker 2: would love to best friend r No, not even the
Speaker 2: best friend. I would love to be able to travel
Speaker 2: more with my girlfriends. You know. I had such a
Speaker 2: great time with Leslie and Paradise, Susan and I went
Speaker 2: to Greece. I would love for us all to get together,
Speaker 2: having friends to do things with and having a guide
Speaker 2: to have dinner with. That's really what makes me happy,
Speaker 2: spending time with my grandchildren. I treasure and my family
Speaker 2: every minute of it. I don't need a man, I
Speaker 2: would if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was a great answer. I think I agree
Speaker 3: with you completely. I feel the same way. But yeah,
Speaker 3: different and Susan do you.
Speaker 2: But I'd like to day.
Speaker 3: I want to day too, And I don't know that
Speaker 3: I'm ready to live with someone. It's so great to
Speaker 3: have someone to go to dinner with and to sit
Speaker 3: around and watch TV with.
Speaker 2: But you you like when you cook, do you? And
Speaker 2: we've gotten used to like doing what we want when
Speaker 2: we want, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: That you meet has to be okay with that.
Speaker 3: I sleep like a princess like I sleep.
Speaker 2: She does too, And she has the little room.
Speaker 1: She has this big, gorgeous room and she stays in
Speaker 1: the little room.
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, what do you think. It's the biggest
Speaker 3: misconception that women our age in intellectually sexually.
Speaker 1: What the people think we're old and we don't have
Speaker 1: what it takes anymore, because we're probably more sexual now
Speaker 1: than we were in our twenties when we were having babies.
Speaker 2: Like now, what do you mean more sexual? Whoaoa whoa?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? More sexual? We enjoy it.
Speaker 1: We we're in touch with our own bodies. We know
Speaker 1: ourselves better, and when you're with a partner, you can
Speaker 1: relax and not worry if the lights are on or not.
Speaker 2: I am who I am.
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable in my own skin. And I think younger
Speaker 1: people look up at us like they don't have a
Speaker 1: clue or you know, yeah, and they don't have the clue.
Speaker 3: And that's sort of what I meant when I saw
Speaker 3: the reaction that the younger people had when all of
Speaker 3: the Guldens came on, like oh, like as if we've
Speaker 3: never had like oh don't we don't have sexuality anymore?
Speaker 3: That they couldn't even picture it, And like, I think.
Speaker 1: We're more sexual and sexy now because you're comfortable with yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we when we were. Let's be clear, none of
Speaker 2: those young guys on Paradise, let me just be clear,
Speaker 2: they didn't think we're sexy at all, clear, But I
Speaker 2: don't care, right, that's the that's the way. We don't care.
Speaker 2: But I want to know, Teresa, where do you because honestly,
Speaker 2: I feel like you've changed what I have as well.
Speaker 2: Where do you see? I hate them when you see
Speaker 2: yourself in six months or a year, But yeah, where
Speaker 2: do you see? What is the most important thing to
Speaker 2: you right now besides our kids and our green kids,
Speaker 2: because I know you're as close to yours as I
Speaker 2: am to mine. But you know what, what does Teresa want?
Speaker 3: I really do want to be in law I do.
Speaker 3: I think that love is the most important thing. Love
Speaker 3: is the most delicious feeling in the world. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: the most wonderful feeling. So I am extremely open to it.
Speaker 3: But you know, I want to ask both of you
Speaker 3: do you get approached by young mengcause I've got many
Speaker 3: thirty year olds in my direct messages.
Speaker 2: And I have I just have to say, first of all, Teresa,
Speaker 2: just to clear the error or be clear, I would
Speaker 2: love to be in love. I'm saying for me, love
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean twenty four to seven in the Sunday
Speaker 2: I love. I love your description of it being delicious.
Speaker 2: It absolutely is. So there's that I have to say.
Speaker 2: But Susan and I were in Greece. I met the
Speaker 2: owner of the hotel. Let me just say, ladies, if
Speaker 2: I disappear, it's because I'm back in that hotel. Her.
Speaker 3: Wow, why he was staying there?
Speaker 2: He was such a sweetheart. Oh, I tell you my
Speaker 2: kind of guy. Have you reached out to him, Kathy,
Speaker 2: We've we've chatted a couple of times. But let me
Speaker 2: let me repeat. He is he's fifty eight years old.
Speaker 2: I told him how old I was. He said something
Speaker 2: to me and I said, can I tell you old
Speaker 2: I am? And he goes, I don't care. He said,
Speaker 2: you are beautiful, you are smart, You're I mean. He
Speaker 2: soon kept saying he's into you. I was like, no,
Speaker 2: he's not.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't believe me. You could tell, you could tell.
Speaker 3: You can't let that go? Know why something about it?
Speaker 3: You can't because connections are so hard to get in
Speaker 3: this one lives.
Speaker 2: There are a few people, yeah, and.
Speaker 3: You did the right things to day with them.
Speaker 2: But again, I can't fly to Greece every week every day.
Speaker 2: And I just told you, if I'm in love with
Speaker 2: the guy, I'm going to be with him and if
Speaker 2: he's working like this guy can't retire. He has a
Speaker 2: daughter and he's hotel to hotel.
Speaker 3: But then can't you go through and say, like for
Speaker 3: three months and just see if it were out and
Speaker 3: keep your home.
Speaker 2: Okay, but let's say it does work out. Am I
Speaker 2: moving to Greece and not see my family? But he
Speaker 2: said you have to go for you go for a
Speaker 2: few months? Is not really true? You know it is true.
Speaker 3: You are open to relocating.
Speaker 2: I am to Greece. We can argue all day long, Terresa,
Speaker 2: Are you would move to Greece?
Speaker 3: Because I understand the children and grandchildren?
Speaker 2: No, I would move hear me, Chalk. I would move
Speaker 2: to Kansas or wherever he lives, Whichifa, because that is
Speaker 2: a flight, that's a two hour flight. I would go,
Speaker 2: spend three weeks with Chalk, fly back and spend a
Speaker 2: week with my grandkids. I would do that. Okay, flying
Speaker 2: for three months?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, No, seven hours, seven hours to three hours,
Speaker 1: it's just four hours.
Speaker 2: Excuse me. Greece was ten hours from all it was
Speaker 2: ten hours, it was nine it was nine. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a long flight though, long hours and forty five minutes
Speaker 2: coming back.
Speaker 3: We'll maybe you just have a romantic fling, okay, and
Speaker 3: so you just do.
Speaker 2: It for three months, okay to me. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: make a deal with you before we wrap this thing up.
Speaker 2: If you have a romantic fling, you and I can
Speaker 2: fly together to Europe and we'll each have our flings
Speaker 2: and then we'll fly back to our grandkids.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Okay, ladies, that does it for this episode. I think
Speaker 2: you can go on all night.
Speaker 1: That does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours
Speaker 1: Golden Hour. Thank you so much Teresa for joining us
Speaker 1: here and we do need to make a plan, and
Speaker 1: thanks for sharing your advice.
Speaker 2: Billy, it's been having you, Teresa, I love Thank you
Speaker 2: so much, and we thank all of you for joining us,
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