WEBVTT - Memories & Makeups with Theresa | Golden Hour 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:10.880 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen that Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.320 Thanks for joining us again as usual, We're so excited 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:14.920 to be back. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.479 We are so excited to be back. And how have 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:22.279 you been doing, Susan good? Yes, yes, good, good good? Okay, Well, 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.280 be sure to check out our latest episode. We've been 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:29.680 having so much fun answer your questions and chatting with 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.839 you with all your Bachelor Nation faves. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.560 And today I'm so excited we have a very special guest. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.000 Please welcome from our season of Golden Bachelor. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:41.599 Teresa. Hi. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.159 Hi, Susan Hi. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.640 Tersa. Well, we have so much that we want to 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.920 dive into today, so let's get things started. First of all, Teresa, 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:57.080 you look absolutely gorgeous, your color so nice. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.200 You're doing the hair the way I suggested. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.960 I love. Don't think I didn't notice. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:05.360 I think I didn't live. 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.280 You look great. Okay, so recently got to know I 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.840 haven't seen you in a bit. Just a wink here, 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.520 But what have you been up to? What's new in 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:15.280 your life? Tell us? 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.600 Oh, my gosh, so much. You know, when I got 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.559 off the show, I went back to my normal life 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.920 with my beautiful family and my grandsons, and and then 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.520 just recently though, I have had a whirlwind. July and 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.720 Jinny so well, you and Leslie were all filming the 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.960 show Paradise. I reached out to Susan. I said, why 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:37.280 don't we get together, you know. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.039 Let's do it and a great time. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:45.399 Couldn't do it until June twenty first, amazing weekend. We 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:49.640 had such a wonderful friend. And yeah, Susan was able 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.120 to take advantage of my case I was. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.280 Dead and the air condition. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.200 I sort, I've lived for fourteen years with no air. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.880 Oh my god, Wait a minute, she Susan, you did 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.720 without air condier No, no, no, you didn't, hear she. 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.520 I got to take advantage of the king sized bed 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.600 and the air condition. I even made Teresa film me 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:16.960 laying on the king size and send it to Gary. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:21.840 Wow. Well I'm going to have to move to the 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.960 East coast, Teresa, so I can come and sleep in that. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.120 Ye. Absolutely. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.080 Okay, So we heard that maybe you're in a relationship. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.840 I'm not. I'm not. There was something, but it wasn't 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.639 bring me, so i'm not. And actually right now I'm 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:42.040 not really actively looking. If it happens, it happens, I'm 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.640 very at peace with my life. I'm happier now than 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.480 I've ever been. And I don't think I have to 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.080 tell you girls how wonderful it's been, how much this 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.320 show enriched our lives, just for people stopping us in 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:59.480 the street, just the community we get on Instagram, and 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.760 so I know, it's just so it's been so fulfilling 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.640 that way. Yeah, So yeah, I'm not actively. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.799 And Theresa, wouldn't you say things are different that you 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.359 look for in a relationship now at this age than 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:13.760 twenty five years ago. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:18.080 Absolutely? I mean, well, twenty five years ago, you're looking 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.040 to start a family, You're young, and you have you 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.080 have different goals in mind. And now we're so much 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.000 more at peace and at ease with ourselves, and we 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.440 really want to enjoy life. We want to have fun. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.640 We know the value of having fun because we don't 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:35.880 know when. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.400 A last day is well. And Theresa, I know how 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.640 close you are with your daughter and your grandkids. And 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.560 I'm the same way, Susan. I've talked a lot. I 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.720 don't know about you, but don't you just love having 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.640 friends and having girlfriends to do things within your daughter 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.080 and your grandkids. I mean, I actually you know love 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.840 that and you, as you know, I roomed with Leslie 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:03.280 and Paradise, Yes, and we sort of rekindled our friendship. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.920 And I know how close you guys are, don't you 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:11.200 sort of enjoy that that with friends and we just 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:12.120 go out to see her. 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.120 Yes, I just wanted to see her. So will I 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.440 will say this that Leslie felt the same way about you, Kathy. 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.680 She said it was wonderful rooming with you and rekindling 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.279 your friendship. And so I did want to say that 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.320 I had a whirl one time because after Susan left, 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.800 then I went to visit my son in South Carolina, 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:34.599 and then I went to visit Leslie in Minneapolis, and 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.240 then I had Peggy at my house. So it's been nonstoff. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.800 I'm so tired because I've got home last Thursday at 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.640 four o'clock in the morning and I still haven't caught 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:42.400 up with my fleet. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:47.480 But right, and you look great. If this is you tired, Teresa, 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.440 you do it well because you look really pretty. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.880 Say but going thank you? But going so do you 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.480 and going back to you know, girlfriends. Yes, tonight, I'm 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.680 going right from work. I'm going to go home, put 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:01.240 on a pickleball outfit. Then I'm going dinner with my friends, 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.240 so and then and then I've been invited to go 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.320 see Mom and Me on Broadway, going with another friend. 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:12.760 So yeah, I wanted to I can't go. Wait have 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.880 you played golf lately? Have you? 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:18.280 No? Because I've been away. So I just reached out 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.559 to all of my golf girlfriends and I said, Okay, 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.600 I'm ready. I'm back, and I'm back. I'm playing pickball. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.680 I'm going to play outdoor pickleball with someone else on Saturday. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.520 So I feel like I have a very full life. 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:34.240 Yes, wait, wait to say, have you taken up pickleball seriously? 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.599 Since no, I wish I could say I had, But 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.320 I take a lesson and then I don't play, and 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.000 so it's sporadic. So I just need to keep at 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.120 it and be consistent with. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:48.159 It having Yeah, what do you like better? Golf or pickleball? 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.520 Yeah, that's a really good question. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:50.960 I'm going to take golf. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.120 I have to play golf. 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.560 Well, you got to come to Austin. We'll all play 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:56.840 golf together, because I do. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.560 I want to do that. That would be amazing, exactly, 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.320 it was really hot right now, Yes. 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.000 What do you think? So? Far about Paradise. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.640 Oh my gosh, I love it. It's so much, it's 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.400 so good. There's so many things to talk about in Paradise. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.520 When you talk about the young people and you talk 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:21.240 about the old people, and I will say, Teresa, the 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:22.440 most beautiful people. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:23.680 Thank you, Teresa. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.160 I do want to say, well, I'm proud of every 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.120 one in of you who are on the show. You're 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.680 doing a tremendous job. And then I just want to 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.600 say that the first episode, and I even know if 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:39.240 you notice this, that it's they seem to trivialize you 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.280 guys coming on saying oh, aren't you cute? And look 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.280 at them in their cute outfits. And I was a 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.839 little bit taken aback by that. But the next episode 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.920 they redeem them, redeem themselves, and it just seemed like 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.719 there was much camaraderie amongst the groups. And it's just 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.360 really interesting seeing and Kathy, Well, what you've done. That's 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.560 really funny. You have some really good luck, some of 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:01.760 them so funny. 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:06.479 Well, Teresa, I zip it was just the beginning of 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.880 my one liner, but I have to say, I think 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.680 you're right, Teresa. I think people well, first of all, 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.200 I want to know, did you why didn't you come 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:16.400 to Paradise? Can I ask that? 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.840 Yeah? So at first I was really so excited, and 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.600 then I realized that the reason I was so excited 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.640 is because I wanted the reunion with all the women, 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.040 and I didn't know exactly who was going to be on. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.280 But then I looked at the men and I didn't 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.760 see a match for myself. So I didn't want to 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.040 go on and not be true to myself and maybe 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.800 take the attention away from someone else or not. And 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.200 I thought, let me just sit back and enjoy others, 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:43.160 you guys being here. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:47.440 Yeah, that's fair. I mean I felt I felt the 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:52.920 same way too when Garret up Gary that was Freud 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.960 did what Keith said on the show, he had no 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.920 romantic interest in me, and we had talked about that, 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.000 but I don't. Wouldn't you all agree that at our age, 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:07.600 having close friendships with guys and with women and our children, 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.400 all of that is just as important as having a 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:11.280 romantic connection. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.360 You know, you're right, So after I'm seeing it, I 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.800 probably would have gone on. If I thought of it 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.520 that way, that we could have just formed a friendship, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.720 then absolutely I would have gone on. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:26.600 So why think of it, Because Paradise is about poking 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.160 up and being falling in love with somebody, just like 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:29.800 our show. 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.880 Right, So that's what I thought it was. And I thought, 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.120 it's a lot of pressure to be in a relationship. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.520 But if yes and so, but if I could have 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.079 thought of that way, let's just be friends, then yes, 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:42.320 I would have gone absolutely. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.600 I mean I went, just to be clear, I went 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.960 Teresa and hoping that to love, to find love. But 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.360 then when I got there and I realized, no, this 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.840 really is just friendship. And then I just started thinking 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.720 how important, you know, friendship is with women. And that's 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.960 what I love about the Goldens from our show. We've 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:04.800 all I wish we got to see each other more. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.320 I still think, Susan, and I'm putting you in charge 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.839 or you to so you're really the organizer. Okay, we 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:16.839 need to have a big reunion with everyone. Maybe maybe 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:22.320 we don't have to invite Gary we Speaking of which, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.600 I wonder about this book. What do you think about 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:25.439 the book coming out? 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.200 Anxious to see what he's going to say in the book. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.800 He's only going to say nice things about you. 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.680 Actually, what are you going to say in the book? 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.440 He said, oh, well, you know I wanted a contract. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.280 I can't say anything, so yes, it's kind. 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:42.480 Of wait, can I share something? 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.280 He sent a text that his book is coming out 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.760 this fall, I think November. It's going to go fast, 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.360 so reserve yours now. And Nancy text him and said, well, Gary, 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.800 I think it would be lovely if you gave all 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.559 of us Goldens a copy. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:04.240 And he needn't respond, and then Theresa, I think you 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.600 know that Gary dated Christina from our show for a while. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.719 I know that, but I mean a while ago. I'm 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.160 actually the one who suggested he go out with Christina. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.640 Susan so did the same thing. I said, So they 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:18.040 went out. 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:19.040 They did. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:23.240 They went out for like six months. Oh yeah, and 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:29.240 oh yeah, and he let her read part of the 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:34.160 book and yeah he did and and yeah, and I said, 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.559 he better said things about all of us, and so 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:38.439 who goes. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:40.080 Okay? 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:44.920 So he said, we get a book, will you autographic 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:45.319 for us? 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:46.800 I will, and I'll give you a copy. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.200 What about your thoughts on mel the next Golden? 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:58.280 Oh it's really funny. So when that podcast first came out, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.080 I actually created a video in response to him, and 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.280 I never put it up, but it was very sarcastic, 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.400 and it was you know, I know, I ad hear 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.120 that you you really only want to do it. There 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.000 was forty five to sixty. And I don't blame you 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.160 because we're all all intocrypted, because everybody's. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.679 You think he meant, Teresa. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.800 I think what you know? Honestly, look at all the 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.760 men who were on Jones season, all with younger women. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.160 I think it's the way of the world. So I 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:33.000 think that what mel was doing was some type of prejudice. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.440 He was prejudging per a woman of that age and 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.640 just discounting every one of them as though they would 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.840 not be a viable partner for him. I know that 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.280 that he will most likely apologize, say that he was wrong. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.280 Look at these women because they're all gorgeous. But he's 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.240 going to episode. He doesn't have a choice. He can't 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.440 go on this show and continue without acknowledging what he did. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:57.520 There's no way he can. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.839 Do that, right, So what would your advice be for 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:01.959 the women? I mean, if what would you like for 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.280 the women on the show, it. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.679 Wouldn't be so tough, and I would, you know, I 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.720 would say, hey, maybe I don't even want you like 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.959 you have to prove yourself to me, Like why they 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.400 should just be themselves And I'm sure they are lovely, beautiful, gorgeous, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.200 accomplished women and he will just see them for who 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.520 they are and see how wonderful they are. So what 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.960 would they do? Yeah, it can't be that he's the 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.160 one that's only judging them. They have the right to 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:31.839 decide whether or not they should be there. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.160 And but seriously, if Teresa, if you were one of 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.440 the women on the show, and you're beautiful and you 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.680 don't like your age, you could have been one of 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.520 the women, what would you have said to him? 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.000 I would say, it's so nice to meet you, and 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.320 what you said was very offensive and very and you 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:55.280 as knowledge narrow minded, and I really would like you 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.199 to acknowledge it and to you know, apologize. 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:04.160 But would did you believe him if you were apologized? Yeah, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.000 I don't know. Not would you believe the apology? But 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.719 would you believe that he could really be interested in 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.640 because like I said, you're a you're a you know, 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:12.520 a beautiful woman. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.680 Yes, he has right, he has apologized, But what I accept? Yes, 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.560 I would. I would. I take everyone in face value, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.240 and I like to second guess anyone. And if they're 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.600 telling me that, they apologize, and I will accept that 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.839 and I will believe them that I will. I like 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.640 to only believe the good and everyone. 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:43.480 So yeah, looking back on your time when you were 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.079 on the Golden Bachelor, what a piece of advice you 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:48.960 would have given yourself back then. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.840 That's so easy. It would really be to really be myself, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.120 which I wasn't. I was not myself. I was very 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.199 I was very closed off. I didn't express my joy, 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.840 I didn't express my laughter. And so yes, to be 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.000 to be war myself. And I know that you were 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:09.840 able to do that. I think Kathy was able to 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.560 do it. It just wasn't me. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:17.360 And has your view on love and relationships changed since then? 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.480 Yeah, you look at it absolutely. 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.440 I you know, before I went on the show, I 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.760 did date a lot. I was on the dating apps 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.640 mainly matched and I will tell you I want to 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.640 hunt on hundreds of dates and nobody was ever the 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:33.200 right place. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.760 Wait for me, Wait, did you see hundreds of days? 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:39.120 I can lift overs please. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.600 On a Friday night a restaurant, and then the next 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.400 time I go on a date with someone else at 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:46.240 the same restaurant, and. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.120 Did you find it exhausted? 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.160 Yes, so I gave up. I said, it's. 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.040 Day lunch and dinner or lunch drinks. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:01.480 Yeah, I was. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:02.280 I was done. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.520 And I think a lot of us have the same story. 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.360 And then when this came along, I thought, well, they're 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.280 gonna scour the whole United States for the best person, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:13.560 so let's put it in their hands. And I'm not 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.480 as anxious or you know, I'm not looking for it. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.560 I'm not actively looking for it. But if it happened, 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:19.600 it would be wonderful. 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.120 Okay, I have a question, and this is maybe an 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:27.080 uncomfortable question, but I've always been curious about it. Forget 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.960 where you and Gary got to do you do you 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:35.120 think things might have played out differently with him? I 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.640 was gonna say, Teresa, I I know how hard it 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.920 was for you and Gary, but I appreciate your honesty 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.840 because I mean, you can never know what would happen. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.080 I think, as you said, you and Gary probably wouldn't 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.680 have ended it up together just based on your personalities. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.400 But I think you know you taught a lot of us. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.720 You gave us a hard lesson for you, but a 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.920 good lesson for the rest of us, And can take 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.920 in our time and making sure it's the right guy, and. 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.920 I mean the right line. There's so much to be 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.640 said about living in close proximity to the person. It's 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.240 very difficult to have a long distance. Susan knows it's 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:10.400 difficult doing it. 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.440 And I wonder about Joanan Chalk, don't you care. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.160 I feel the same way as you. I wonder about them, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.800 and I hope that it's working out for them and 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.400 maybe when they yeah, they will live. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.320 I got through Theresa. I always say, like I said 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:32.120 to the guys in Paradise, I say anyone who asked 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.400 me I'm the goofball that if I found the guy 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.760 I love now, I might draw the line at the 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.920 cornfields of Indiana, I will. I'm with you. I'm with you, Theresa, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.760 But I'm with the girl who would pick up and move. Susan, 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:47.480 I had the girl to pick would pick up and 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.720 move to Saint Martin and say, I don't know. I 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.320 don't know that's going to work unless I if you 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:58.120 were working like Chalk's working, right, So either that or 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.880 doing what you and Gary were going to do, which 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:02.360 is moved to a new place. But I don't see 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.280 how a long distance relationship works over time. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.440 I agree with you, Kathy, it really is so difficult. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:15.920 I want everyone to hear that to take well. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.600 For me, I'm telling you what's my long distance. It 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.080 is difficult. Five weeks is the longest we've gone and 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:26.240 it sucks. But ideally, eventually, when one of us don't work, 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:27.480 I don't want to. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:28.880 Spend the summers there, it's too hot. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:30.919 I think ideally he could come up here in the 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.159 summer and I could live there in the winter. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.440 And yeah, yes, that'd be amazing. 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.040 Theresa, I have a big question. 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.120 It is no secret that you and Kathy had drama 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.400 on The Golden Bachelor. This is your first time with us, 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.080 so we have to let our fans know. Now that 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.119 it's been two years, looking back on it, what do 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.000 you both think about it now? 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.359 I will say that I wish I had known what 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.080 Kathy had gone through with our husband. I did not 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.800 know that. You know, I know that, and I did 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.320 think that Kathy was my best friend in the house, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.000 and I did tell her those things in you know, confidence. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.359 I didn't know that anyone else knew what I said, 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.520 and I never you know, if Kathy had known that, 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.720 I was so hesitant to even go and that I 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.760 wasn't really looking to be the person I wasn't. I 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.920 was so excited about that date because I kept thinking, 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.480 I'm not moving to Indiana. But when he said off, 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:33.199 he zaid, I'm sick of the lake. I'm sick of 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.240 taking a boat in and out of lake. I want 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.000 to move to Charleston. A light bulb on off of 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.080 my head. And that's what got me so excited. Oh well, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.800 maybe this is meant to be because my son lives 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.240 in South Carolina, so that I got so many women 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.480 in my life, my daughter, my daughter in law, my 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.640 two sisters, all my friends, and I had no one 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.879 to tell it to, and I thought I was telling 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.720 only Kathy, and I didn't know well. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.360 And I will say, I just want a clear boy thing. 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.560 First of all, with Teresa and I have you and 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.360 I have seen each other. This is the first time 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.760 you are on our podcast, but this is not the 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.159 first time you have talked. We've talked on the phone, 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.800 We've been together in DC, and I think, you know, 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.399 I think none of us were really totally ourselves on 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.400 that show. And I but I what I want listeners, 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.560 what I think about it Susan, you asked, I think 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.919 that you can grow at any time in your life 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:33.280 and Teresa, and Teresa, I think you would agree with me. 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.040 I would like to see more of you. I wish 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:36.880 we live closer. 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.439 I wish she was jealous because she can't come. She 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:41.720 hasn't been invited yet. 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:48.080 Yeah, I'm coming. I'm just saying I think that, and 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.080 you're welcome to come to Texas. We'll we'll, we'll find 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.360 you about a big ten gallon hat and boots. Yes, 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:54.720 I think I think you know. 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.280 We just needed to know each other better. We were strangers. 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.119 It's almost like you're in a car and you're getting 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.000 mad another driver for cutting you off. It's an impersonal situation. 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.040 So that's really why I shut up after that. I 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.320 really got closed off after that incident. I felt like 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:14.280 I couldn't say anything, and I don't think anyone to 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:15.040 go ahead. 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:15.680 I'm sorry, Teresa. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.840 I wish I had known your story. You never shared 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:21.959 that with me about your husband, none of us. 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.320 Do you mean about my husband's suicide? 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:25.879 Yes, yes, I didn't know that. 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.199 Oh I thought I had told you no, But you 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:30.639 know what that that is just a part of my 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:34.159 life and as I've said along like, you know, it 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.639