1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noone Pacific. Find your local station for the Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Oh, it is a Monday. We are rare, run to go. 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: There is a lot happening, including NFL Champs opening up. 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: We are live. It is the Herd. Wherever you may 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: be and however you may be listening, we appreciate you 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: stopping by a lot of choices out there. Jmac, it 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: is I love my golf majors, and I especially love 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: a golf major when a dominant player could be byteson De'shamba, 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: who by the way, has last three rounds. You absolutely 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: on fire Rory or a guy who maybe not that 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: is a fascinating but dominating Scotty Scheffler. So I want 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: to start with that, Jay MC. There's a lot of 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: talk yesterday because Scotty Scheffler wins and really pulled away, 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: played great early in the final round, pulled away from 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: the other world class golfers. And people are saying, Man, 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: this fields like Tiger Woods. No, it doesn't. And I 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: love Scotty Scheffler. They have one thing in common. Scotty 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Scheffler right now in his prime and Tiger in his prime, 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: felt like they were absolutely better than even the second 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: best golfer in the world. And if both were hitting 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: their putts, and Tiger almost always was, if they go 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: into the final round with a lead, you're not catching them. 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: That's what they have in common. But Tiger was much 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: longer off the tee, and golf equipment's actually improved. He 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: was forty yards off the tee longer sometimes and Scheffler's 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: about three to three ten sometimes. Tiger was three sixty 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: three seventy. Secondly, Tiger is the best iron player I've 36 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. Maybe there's somebody better, I'm 37 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: not sure. And Tiger was consistently on the tour in 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: his prime, unbelievable lag putter and an unbelievable big tournament, 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: big pot star. Scheffler's gotten way better at that, but 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: he can struggle, at least he did previously. So I 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: mean they were talking about Tiger proofing courses. It was 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: ridiculous Scheffler. Again, there's a difference, Scotty. Scheffler doesn't intimidate 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: other golfers. He just beats them. Tiger Woods, the galleries, 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: the fist pump. He leaned into it much more Michael Jordan. 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: He'd taught you at the free throw line. They were 46 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: trying to Tiger proof courses. But you couldn't do anything. Okay, 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: let's make it longer. That played the Tiger's advantage. So 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: Scheffler is ruling golf to me. Tiger revolutionized it. Tiger 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: was MJ or Mike Tyson in his prime. He intimidated 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: other great fighters, other NBA All stars, and again Tiger 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: loved it like MJ loved taunting you. Scheffler's more Tim Duncan, reserved, 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: avoids mistakes, fundamentally strong business like now that he's got 53 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: the putting going, if he leads on Sunday, it's over. 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: But Tiger made you feel like you wanted to go out. 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: He had so much alpha. You'd watch Tiger play and 56 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: you wanted to go to the driving range. You wanted 57 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: to grab your clubs and go play. I mean Scotty Scheffler. 58 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: He said it last week. You know, I don't get 59 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: much out of winning. He's a little bit of a buzzkill. 60 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: I loved Tim Duncan, but he never wanted me made 61 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: me want to go grab a basketball when I was 62 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: a kid. If you watched a great player, you'd want 63 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: to go out in the backyard and shoot. That's not Scheffler. 64 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: So it's like Lebron. Lebron got to eight straight finals, 65 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: but he never felt like he quite had the MJ 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: killer instinct, the MJ juice, the MJ. I mean, think 67 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: about this, they're both at twenty nine. Tiger had ten 68 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: majors and forty six wins. Shefferd's got four and seventeen. 69 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson is a legend, an all time great golfer. 70 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: He's got forty five career wins. Tiger had forty six 71 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: in his twenties. So again, there's a difference between ruling 72 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: golf and revolutionizing it. There's a difference between winning and intimidating. 73 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: And I think that is when you can get into 74 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: other golfers or other fighters, or other UFC fighters' heads. 75 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: That's Tiger Scott. He's just great. And now that he's 76 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: got his putting going. If he leads going into Sunday, 77 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: that thing felt over by his third hole, You're like, yeah, yeah, 78 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: it's over. I think even he afterwards after the Open win, 79 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: acknowledged that. 80 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: I still think they're a bit silly. You know, Tiger 81 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: won what fifteen majors? It's my fourth? Could you got 82 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: one fourth of the way there? So just I mean 83 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: it's I think Tiger stands alone in the game of golf. 84 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: I don't focus on that kind of stuff. That's not 85 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: what motivates me. I'm not not motivated by winning championship. 86 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: I feel like what motivates me is just getting out 87 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: and you know, get getting to love out my dream. 88 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Scotty Scheffler's great. Tiger was obsessed, and there is 89 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: something about the athletes in our time. Brady obsessed with football, obsessed. 90 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's pretty good. Is he obsessed? I don't know, 91 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: but but but Brady's obsession slash intensity was kind of intimidating. 92 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up with John Elway. I was 93 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: a Seahawk fan. If you grew up and you led 94 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: in Lway got the ball, it was deflating. You knew 95 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: the outcome that was Brady. So I don't feel that 96 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: with't I never felt that with Aaron Rodgers. Who's good. 97 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: It's a coin flip. Will he come back? I win 98 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: or not? It's coin flip, Brady, it's over. Get in 99 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: the car, Warm the car, up, start the car. And 100 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: I think that intensity of Tiger is just different than 101 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: anything I've ever seen. Okay, so esbn's analytic writers, this 102 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: is data. It's not necessarily opinions driven by data. Ranked 103 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: the NFL rosters going into a season now, A lot 104 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: of it's predictable. At the top, it's Baltimore, Philly, Detroit, Buffalo, 105 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: Kansas City, you know a lot of that stuff. Bottom, 106 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's your Saints and your Giants and your Jets, whatever. 107 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: But what's really interesting to me is smack dab in 108 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: the middle, right, smack dab in the middle, Green Bay 109 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: Packers fourteen, Chicago Bears fifteen. Even though the Packers have 110 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: dominated that rivalry, it's a great rivalry. It is a 111 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: great rivalry. NFC North is up for grabs. And if 112 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: the NFL between the Packers and Bears is a head 113 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: coach and quarterback league, and it is that, it's Matt 114 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: Laflor and Jordan Love against Ben Johnson, another off coach, 115 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: and another athletic quarterback, Caleb Williams. That is great for 116 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: one of the NFL's best rivalry. And I think what 117 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: makes Caleb Williams so fascinating and why the Bears are 118 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: going to be such a great watch. Nobody disputes his talent, arm, athleticism, escapability, 119 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: and toughness. I have a general manager in my kind 120 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: of source group who's a critic of Caleb Williams. Doesn't 121 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: know what the outcome is going to be. He acknowledges tough, big, 122 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: explosive arm, and insanely evasive. Nobody disputes that. What it 123 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: really comes down to Caleb Williams is coachability, creative, strong. 124 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: Those are traits we know. That's great, But all of 125 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: the things he struggles with are improvable, are coachable. He 126 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: holds arm the ball too long, you can coach your 127 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: way out of that. He misses laps easy stuff, You 128 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: can coach your way out of that. Sometimes I think 129 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: he plays a little hero ball from time to time. 130 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: You can coach your way out of that. You can't 131 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: get bigger and stronger and faster that's not gonna work. 132 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: So all of his traits are correctable and coachable. And 133 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give you an example. Pocket presence. Well, 134 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson came into the NFL with none, and now 135 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: he's excellent. He is. Lamar Jackson is not only a 136 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: great athlete, he's clearly smart and coachable. He did not 137 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: have much of a pocket presence. He just ran and escaped. 138 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing in the pocket. Now he's 139 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: a real has been for years. Josh Allen accuracy was 140 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: like inaccurate at Wyoming, inaccurate in the NFL. Now he's 141 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: very accurate. That's coachable, size, arm moving around, dynamic is 142 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: not so. When you look at bo Nicks, he's either 143 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: going to be good, which he is now, or very good. 144 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: When you look at Jayden Daniels, he's either going to 145 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: be great or a legend. There is such a wide 146 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: range of outcome. For Caleb Williams, it's going to be 147 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: amazing or wow, that didn't work. You have this huge 148 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: range of outcomes and that's why I think last year 149 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: the Bears were a fascinating team. In fact, Jmack called 150 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: him the most interesting team in the league to start 151 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: the year, but it was mostly because of the dysfunction 152 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: and the potential for an inferno, and it was engulfed 153 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: early this year. It's not about dysfunction. It's really about 154 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: the roster's good. It's as good as the packers. The coach, 155 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing. He's offensive. Oh no, they 156 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: shore up the offensive line. It really comes down to 157 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: can Caleb take to coaching, cape take to developing, which 158 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: I think is much easier when you're less talented. I 159 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: think if you have a marginal singing voice, you understand 160 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: the value of your singing. Coach, I think is the 161 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: hardest people to coach, and they love the coaching, but 162 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: it's hard when somebody's truly gifted. Andy Reid Mahomes, when 163 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: do you pull back? When do you get out of 164 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: the way? When do you let him do what he 165 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: just sort of does? That's hard, it's easy, and I 166 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: think Kirk Cousins knows. I'm going to follow the playbook here, 167 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to follow the coaching. I've got limitations. I 168 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: think it's really hard to coach Mahomes. That goes against 169 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: what you think, because like when do you coach and 170 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: when do you just get out of the way. And 171 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: you gotta sometimes with Caleb get out of the way. 172 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: I've talked about this before. He had a moment against 173 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: Arizona in college. I think it was his first year 174 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: at USC. It may have been a second where he 175 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: was on the sideline. It was fourth quarter, late in 176 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: the game, may have been overtime. There were like six 177 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: Arizona Wildcats around him and it ended up being a 178 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: good Bowl team for Arizona. It was six on one 179 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: and they couldn't get it and it was the most 180 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: It was a video game. So you know that's why. 181 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: By the way, Steve Kerr is a great coach because 182 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: he took the coaching. Therefore he adapted a nose coaching. 183 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan wasn't a great GM Magic wasn't a great coach. 184 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: Some of it's just I just got this skill and 185 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: it leads me to the right place in crisis. All right, 186 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: j Mac. A lot of things going on this week. 187 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: Look WNBA players, Oh, I find that story actually well, 188 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: I actually I think there's a real argument that the 189 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: WNBA players are going to win negotiations. I wouldn't do 190 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: it the way they're doing it. Well, I you know, 191 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: the T shirt stuff. It's not the end of the world. 192 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of silly, but I do think, but I 193 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: do think there's something to be said. Even if you 194 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: lose money for a company for ten years, if you're 195 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: at the end of your ten year contract and you 196 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: finally start making money, do you want to bail on 197 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: the investment? Like it doesn't matter what they did for 198 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. In the last year, the 199 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: growth of the WNBA due to Kaitlin Clark is so sensational. 200 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Bail on your investment? It's 201 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: finally paid off? So what do you do if you're 202 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: the NBA. So I want to talk about that and 203 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: also a reality. People aren't gonna like to hear this 204 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: in a certain part of the country, but it's true 205 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: and that's coming up. 206 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 207 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: and neon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 208 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 209 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 210 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: five to seven pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We 211 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: never have enough time to get to everything we want 212 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 4: to get. 213 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 5: To, and that's why we have a brand new podcast 214 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 5: called over Promised. 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Listen to over Promised 234 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 5: with Cavino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, 235 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 5: or wherever you get your podcasts. 236 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: Man hour one on a Monday flew by We are live. 237 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: We're in Chicago. It is the Herd. Good stuff with 238 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: Matt Hassel back in about four or five minutes. Training 239 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: camps are underway. Training camps are different depending on the roster. 240 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: You got a young team and there's a couple of 241 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: them out there. Very interesting stuff. J Mac. You know, 242 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. We talked about the Big 243 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: ten overtake on the SEC, and a lot of it 244 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: is the Big Ten campuses. There's more students, they graduate, 245 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: it's easier to raise nil money. If you look at 246 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: the top two teams in the SEC now nil spending 247 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: Sistern Texas A and M. That's not the SEC, that's 248 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: Texas economy. And so if you look at the Big Ten, 249 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: Oregon's got money, USC's got money, Michigan's got money, Ohio 250 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 1: State's got money. It's different. Those are bigger schools, more graduates, 251 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: and I think that's why the Big Ten is going 252 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: to win its third straight national championship. Facilities used to matter. 253 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: Now it's about paying the players, and the Big Ten 254 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: can just consistently have fewer players poached and pay more 255 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: elite players. 256 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, by the way, do you remember early last year. 257 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 6: I think it was like August in early September, a 258 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 6: lot of SEC teams were losing games, and I think 259 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 6: we talked about it at the time in the SEC fans, Oh, 260 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 6: it's early, we're going to be fine. 261 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 7: They're definitely not fine. 262 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 6: I thought your car dealership point first hour was really 263 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 6: spot on, Like car dealership money. 264 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: Is great free NIL. 265 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 6: Now in the NIL ere there's so much bigger money 266 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 6: at play with some of these other universities. The Texas 267 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 6: Tech example, colin It got a few billionaire. 268 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you took the long Horns in the AGGI 269 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: he's out of the SEC. The gap in spending between 270 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: the big ten and the SEC would be even larger. Mean, 271 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: it's like the Longhorns in A and M. That's the 272 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Texas economy. The Texas economy, it's one of the biggest 273 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: economies in the world. It's a monster. That's a whole 274 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: different ballgame. Saban knew this very early when the NIL 275 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: money started. He grumbled year one. You go back and 276 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: look at those quotes, and I said it on the air. 277 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: He is grumbling because he sees the truth. He can't compete. 278 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: Sark's roster second year of the NIL was Nicks roster 279 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: three years earlier. Bigger, stronger, faster guys. Here we go 280 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: on a Monday, Colin Wright, Colin wrong. Let's roll it 281 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: where Colin was right? Oh, the offensively tone dev Steelers 282 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin can't help himself, gave TJ. Watt the biggest 283 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: non quarterback contract in the league. They will once again 284 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: lead the NFL in defensive spending. It's not the player, 285 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: but they paid Jalen Ramsey, they played Darius Slay, they 286 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: paid TJ. Watt. Yet they can't get their offensive line right. 287 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: They let Najee Harris go. It's not that Mike Tomlin's 288 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: on a good coach. This organization spends too much money. 289 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: Billy doesn't, Rams, don't Niners let defensive guys go. Kansas 290 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: City doesn't pay defense. Pittsburgh does. 291 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong. 292 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: Just when I gave the WNBA players credit for in 293 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: a private poll naming Kitlin Clark is the face of 294 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: the league going forward. And then Kelsey Plumb comes out 295 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: takes a shot at Caitlin Clark because her team wasn't 296 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: present for you know, the meetings they're having regarding the negotiations. 297 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: She said, it was a very powerful moment. Wearing those 298 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: T shirts. But she said, you know, nobody from team 299 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark was present. Can we stop? You guys are 300 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: flying private. There's one reason, Caitlin Clark, somebody joined the 301 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: band that's roly popular. You're traveling in style. Give it 302 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: a break. Where Colin was right, NFL executives, scouts and 303 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: coaches last week ranked Jalen Hurts ninth best quarterback in 304 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. That's what I've said. Character, leadership, playmaking, strength excellent. 305 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Love him, but from the pocket. After a week five 306 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: by the Eagles coaching staff reduced a number of passes 307 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: thrown per game to twenty four and they were a 308 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: better offense. Nobody's doing that for Mahomes or Josh Allen. 309 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: I can like a player, but say, yeah, there's limitations. 310 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: Greg co Selz been saying this for a year. I 311 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: love Jalen Hurts, He's not an elite pocket thrower. Consistently, 312 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, well, I said, Penn State I've 313 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: set up for the last month is the best team 314 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. It's not Ohio State, even though 315 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: the Buckeys have the best offensive player and the best 316 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: defensive player and Ryan Day Penn State was just awarded 317 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: the media poll over Ohio State as the best team 318 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: in the conference. My prediction is at Penn State Texas 319 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: National Championship. I'll figure out at the time who wins it. 320 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: But I think the Big Ten we've been on it 321 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: for a year has overtaken the SEC is the best program. 322 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: And the fact that Penn State gets higher rated by 323 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: the media that knows those programs over the Buckeyes. We'll 324 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: bring back the best two players in the sport says something. 325 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: Where Colin was raw. 326 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: I sold my Shader Sanders stock after two speeding tickets. 327 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you're a quarterback and you're a fifth 328 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: round pick. You got to have more self awareness. But 329 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: Mary K. Cabot reported this week that because he performed 330 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: so well at camp, he has a legitimate chance to 331 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: win the starting job. So perhaps I bailed a little 332 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: early where Colin was right. The ESPN rankings of the 333 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: top rosters this year in the NFL, seven of the 334 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: top twelve are NFC. This is something we started talking 335 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: about last year. There was about a three year period 336 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: where the gap between the AFC and the NFC was noticeable. 337 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: But if you watched the NFL last year roster composition. 338 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: I thought the NFC had more elite rosters. I thought 339 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: Philadelphia's roster was the best, Detroit's was second, Baltimore's third. 340 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: Seven of the top twelve are NFC and Oh, by 341 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: the way, the NFC forty eight and thirty three against 342 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: the AFC last year. 343 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: Where Colin was right. 344 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: What a shocker. Only one NFL team hasn't signed their 345 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: first round pick, and it's the always cheap Cincinnati Bengal. 346 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart is the holdout. I've said it for years. 347 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: Zach Tater gets criticized by a lot of people in 348 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. H that's all Joe Burrow. He's got the 349 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: cheapest owner there are owners. I don't love the guy 350 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: down in Miami, but he spends the facilities are a 351 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: free agents love Miami. One team can't finalize their deal 352 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: with the first round pick, the Cincinnati Bengals. That's why 353 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: Joe burrows al was picked off where Colin was rowed. 354 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: The Dodgers have hit one ninety eight as a team 355 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: in their last ten games. Last in baseball, they're two 356 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: and ten in their last twelve, just swept by the Brewers. 357 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: Mookie Betts is in the worst slum of his career. 358 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: They moved Otani out of the leadoff spot. The pitching 359 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: too many injuries. I thought, this lineup, I believe that. 360 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: At the time, I said, you can make an argument 361 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: after Otani, Mookie Betts is the best player in baseball. 362 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: This is the best batting order I have seen since 363 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: the seventy five Reds. They officially can't hit where Colin 364 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: was right. Well, Bradley Beal went to the Clippers and 365 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre said, it's the kind of move that will 366 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: shift the paradigm of the NBA. Well, I looked at 367 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: the odds makers. They were plus two two thousand pre 368 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: trade plus two thousand Clippers post trade. Oldest roster in 369 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: the NBA with Brook Lopez and Bradley Beal just got older. 370 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: The Bradley Beal acquisition did not make a dent in 371 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: the Clippers' futures, despite the admiration of one Jason McIntyre 372 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: and with that our friend I love having them on 373 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: the show. It's a Monday, It's Matt Hasselbeck eighteen year 374 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: NFL season. So I said last hour, everybody acknowledges how 375 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: good Sean McVay is and how great Andy Reid is 376 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: and the hardbass. But I don't think we quite understand 377 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: what Peyton has done in Denver. They lost two first 378 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: round picks to get Ross. He inherited that the dead 379 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: cap situation was before DeShawn Watson, like the worst contract 380 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: in the league. You got Herbert and Harbaugh, Mahomes and 381 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: Red and they made the playoffs with bo Nicks. And 382 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: my take is not all coaches are great with personnel, Matt, 383 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: but this roster is really good. I think you said 384 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: this about a month ago on this show. You're high 385 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: on Denver, are you not? 386 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm very high Colin. 387 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 8: I kind of wonder if people are holding his big 388 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 8: loss in that championship game in the Home Team movie. 389 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 7: When was it him or Kevin James. 390 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 8: I don't know when he was the offensive coordinator and 391 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 8: lost the twelve year old championship. 392 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 7: You know what I'm talking. You don't watch movies, so 393 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 7: you don't know. 394 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 8: But now listen, Denver I think is a major threat. 395 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 7: In the AFC West. We're gonna be talking about what 396 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 7: a great coaching division. 397 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 8: This is the head coaches guys that have hoisted Lombards 398 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 8: three out of the four. But you and everyone's gonna 399 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 8: want to crown Kansas City. 400 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 7: I get that. 401 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 8: I like them too, But he has something special in Bonittz. 402 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 8: He knows exactly what he is looking for in a quarterback. 403 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 8: It's those same exact traits that his quarterback Drew Brees had. 404 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 8: This defense might be the best defense in the NFL. 405 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 8: There's certainly a candidate for that that award. And then 406 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 8: they go out and get Evan Ingram. They've got a 407 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 8: running back by committee kind of a fire and ice, 408 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 8: lightning and thunders sort of situation. 409 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 7: There, a great offensive line. 410 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 8: My concern or question would be like, what do they 411 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 8: have firepower wise, consistency wise at the wide receiver position. 412 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 8: I thought they were pretty good last year, but I 413 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 8: thought they might have overachieved, you know, can they continue 414 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 8: to improve and grow in that area? But to me, 415 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 8: Sean Payton knows exactly what it takes. Everyone believes in him, 416 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 8: and if that thing gets rolling in Denver, that home 417 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 8: field advantage is real just as well. 418 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 7: So that's a team to watch in my mind. 419 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 420 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a Empacific. 421 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know. I think another reason why people pushback 422 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: on Peyton is because Andy Reid rarely says something, rarely 423 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: steps in it. Sean McVay doesn't Shanahan. You know the 424 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: kind of PC up front. You know Sean's not Sean 425 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: goes after people. And the truth is, I think people 426 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: inside the league know how good he is. But Sean 427 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: has alienated some people because he is I mean, I 428 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: know Sean, that's his personality. He's totally authentic. He's like 429 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: a little bit like Jim Harbaugh ten years ago. Half 430 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: the league hated Harball, half revered him. I think that's 431 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: part of the Peyton dynamic. 432 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 7: Do you yeah and listen. 433 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 8: I think also people were surprised when it didn't work 434 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 8: out with Russell Wilson. I wasn't really surprised because I 435 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 8: know what kind of coach Sean Payton is, known him 436 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 8: for a long time. He knows exactly what he wants 437 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 8: and exactly how it wants it, how he wants it 438 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 8: so like he's not looking to hear like, oh what 439 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 8: are you comfortable with, mister quarterback? 440 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 7: Like he doesn't care. He's like, listen, hop on board, 441 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 7: follow me, it's gonna work. 442 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 8: And so like last year as an example, I think 443 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 8: they did a lot of things that Bnix was comfortable with, Like, hey, listen, 444 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 8: I would like I think Sean Payton almost thought. 445 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 7: Of it this way. I would prefer if you were 446 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 7: under center more. 447 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 8: But since this is year one for you, we'll go gun, 448 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 8: We'll go shotgun more for you. But in year two, like, 449 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 8: we're going to do it more my way. We're going 450 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 8: to be under center more. We're gonna do a lot 451 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 8: of the things that I like to do. And I 452 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 8: don't think he's very multiple, Like I don't think he 453 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 8: wants to move off his spot, which is totally fine 454 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 8: when you're Sean Payton, and I think that could be 455 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 8: a rub with a veteran quarterback that's done it differently. 456 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 8: That's why I think having bo Nicks is just so great. 457 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 8: He's got a maturity because of how much you played 458 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 8: in college, but he also has kind of this moldability 459 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 8: of a young player. 460 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: So I think camps are different based on your personnel. 461 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: I do think there are teams like Kansas City Reid Mahomes, 462 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: Kelsey now they have to rework their offensive line. But 463 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: Chris Jones, now those defensive players who were young three 464 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: years ago. They know the system with Spags. So like 465 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: Kansas City, the preseason to me feels kind of irrelevant, 466 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: just st a healthy your thought. Are there a couple 467 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: of teams you look at and think, yeah, the next 468 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: three weeks matter a lot. 469 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 7: Detroit? 470 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think we're understanding how hard it's 471 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 8: going to be for Detroit to overcome all the losses. 472 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 7: That they've had. I mean, they've losing your offensive and 473 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 7: defensive coordinator. 474 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 8: That's not nothing, you know, not really being sure who 475 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 8: the five starters are up front, Like. 476 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 7: That's not nothing. 477 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 8: Now listen, they get an extra week, they get an 478 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 8: extra preseason, you know, they get with the Hall of Fame. 479 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 7: Game and all that. But now they're also battling that 480 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 7: like sort of attrition. 481 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 8: So I think that still like to me, the teams 482 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 8: that have a lot of change. You know, there's other 483 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 8: teams around the league that have a lot. 484 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 7: Of new pieces. 485 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 8: I'll say, like the New England Patriots as an example, 486 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 8: maybe the you know, maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers. People that 487 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 8: have new people and so having time on task is 488 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 8: also important. 489 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 7: Like Aaron Rodgers showed up late. Is it a big deal? Like, no, 490 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 7: it's not a big deal. 491 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 8: But this is this is not what training camp was 492 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 8: like when I first got into the NFL. When I 493 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 8: first got into the NFL, you know, you'd hear players 494 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 8: talk in the locker room. They'd say, Hey, I'm gonna 495 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 8: play myself into shape in training camp, and I got 496 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 8: the preseason. 497 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 7: By the start of the season, I'll be in shape. 498 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 7: Like that's just not how it is anymore. 499 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 8: Like the it's it's it's OTA's it's it's many mini camp, 500 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 8: it's that off season time, the five or six weeks 501 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 8: before training camp, it's training camp, it's joint practices. So 502 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 8: it's it's it's a different NFL. And when you're not 503 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 8: in pads until like this short window in training camp 504 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 8: with one A days not two A days, I think 505 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 8: it's tougher for continuity for coordinators and olignemen. 506 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: So this question is one that you can singularly answer 507 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: that I really can't. So I said, one of the 508 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: things that's fascinating. If I look at Jaden Daniels, I 509 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: could say from just one year, he's either going to 510 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: be really good or a legend. I look at bow 511 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: Nicks and I'm like, he's either going to be good 512 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: or really good may not be a legend. I look 513 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: at Caleb Williams and there's a lot of outcomes wow 514 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: or yeah, this didn't work at all. And because there 515 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: are some habits he holds on the ball too long, 516 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: he kind of misses on some easy stuff. You were 517 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: one of the few people that came out last year 518 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: and said it's not all the coaches some of this. 519 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: But here's my thing, Matt, I think his flaws are correctable. 520 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: Like Lamar Jackson got really good in the pocket. His 521 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: pocket presence, it wasn't good the first two years, it's 522 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: really good the last three. Josh Allen accuracy bad to 523 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: really good. I think that's Caleb. I think he is 524 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: his weaknesses are coachable. A do you agree? And what 525 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: will you see in the first month that could concern 526 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: you with all this new staff and all these new players. 527 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree that those things are fixable. I would 528 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 8: also say the guys you mentioned Lamar and Josh Allen, 529 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 8: they were other worldly and elite in something else as 530 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 8: you work through some of their maturity as their young 531 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 8: quarterback growing up. I think the thing for Caleb is 532 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 8: that the excuses are now gone, like they have done 533 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 8: a great job. Ryan Pols has done a great job 534 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 8: of building this roster around him, building this coaching staff 535 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 8: around him. 536 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 7: Now it's all up to him to. 537 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 8: Be a fulfillment of what they thought he was going 538 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 8: to be when they made him the first pick. 539 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 7: Overall, he's got everything that he needs. 540 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 8: He's got the maybe the premiere quarterback whisperer coming out 541 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 8: that was available this year. 542 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 7: He's got everything he needs. I think the thing that's. 543 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 8: Going to happen for him this year, the pressure and 544 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 8: the heat will turn up on him. If guys like 545 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 8: Jaden Daniels and Bo Nicks and Drake May and JJ McCarthy. 546 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 7: And some of these other guys in his draft class. 547 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 8: Do really really well fair or not fair, that'll be 548 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 8: the standard that he gets measured against. 549 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 7: So, you know, I think as those. 550 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 8: Guys go, I think that'll have a that'll have an 551 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 8: effect on you know, what people think about Caleb in 552 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 8: year two. 553 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: So Nick Saban, there's there's two people I trust, Lane 554 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: Kiffin and Greg McElroy, who both hinted at Saban returning. 555 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going back to college because nil money. 556 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: Universities now have to raise fifteen million for Nil, they'd 557 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: have to buy out their coach pay Saban. It'd be 558 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar check. And outside of Texas, I 559 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: don't think anybody or Phil Knight Nike money could afford that. 560 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: So I think he's going to go to the NFL. 561 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: Do you think it would work this time for Saban? 562 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it could work. 563 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 8: Like the reality of the NFL is that most of 564 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 8: the guys in the NFL, most of the players are 565 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 8: in years one, two or three. It's a very young 566 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 8: league right now. You have some outliers, some quarterbacks, some 567 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 8: guys that are old, but the most of the roster 568 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 8: is young. So he would know these guys maybe as 569 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 8: well as anybody, and I think the respect is certainly there. 570 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 8: The challenge in my mind for a guy like that 571 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 8: going from Alabama to the NFL, You're not going to 572 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 8: have a better roster than all the guys you play like, 573 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 8: that's just not going to be the fact. 574 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 7: You know, that's not going to be how it is 575 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 7: in the NFL. 576 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 8: And then the other thing is like understanding how to 577 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 8: deal with a franchise quarterback in the NFL is going 578 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 8: to be very different than college. You can't necessarily talk 579 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 8: to him that way. You can't go musical chairs. If 580 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 8: you feel like switching a guy at halftime. It rarely 581 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 8: works in the NFL, So I think that would probably 582 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 8: be the biggest adjustment. But in terms of respect, knowledge 583 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 8: of the game, the staff that he could acquire, I mean, 584 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 8: it would be Belichick esque in my mind if you 585 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 8: were to get him as an NFL head coach. 586 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: All right, finally, Aaron Rodgers forty one, go to your 587 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: last two camps. What was the advantage of being the 588 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: old guy in camp and what was the disadvantage? 589 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 8: Well, the big perk I remember I was, I got 590 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 8: my own bet, I got two twin beds moved together 591 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 8: next to Adam VENITII, who was the oldest guy on 592 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 8: the team. 593 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 7: I was the second guy, second oldest, but between me, 594 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 7: Vinnie and Reggie Wayne, like the old guys get that perk, 595 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 7: you know. 596 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 8: I think camps are just so different now, like for 597 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers. You know, I remember Brett Farv was older 598 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 8: in his career. When I first started, we through twice 599 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 8: a day. Two a days were a thing. Now with 600 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 8: the new CBA, there is no such thing as to today. 601 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 8: So for a thrower training camp's really not that hard. 602 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 8: You throw once a day, and like I've said many times, 603 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 8: like for Aaron Rodgers this year, he can make all 604 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 8: the throws, Like when he's fifty years old, he'll be 605 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 8: able to make all the throats. 606 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 7: What has to change for him is in his mind. 607 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 8: He probably thinks he can move around in the pocket 608 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 8: like he always could, and that's just not the case. 609 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 7: He cannot. 610 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 8: He's not as he's not as mobile, he's not. He 611 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 8: doesn't have that as capability. So he's gonna have to 612 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 8: change his game and rely basically, I would say, much 613 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 8: more just on his brain, his eyes, and his arm 614 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 8: and this sort of forget the legs part of it. 615 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 8: And I think that's why Tom Brady did such a 616 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 8: great job late in his career, because he never really 617 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 8: relied on his legs or escapability. You're moving too far 618 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 8: out of the pocket. That'll be an adjustment for a 619 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 8: rod He can certainly do it. But again, you kind 620 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 8: of almost just got to flip your mind a little 621 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 8: bit and win a different way. 622 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're still have in Nashville, right, correct. Okay, 623 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: I was sitting this weekend and somebody on the internet, 624 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: I apologize. I forget who it was, but they said, 625 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: in the last twenty years, has there ever been a 626 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: number one pick that has gotten less publicity and discussion 627 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: than cam Ward? And I'm like, oh my god, it's 628 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: incredible because last year's class was so profound, and when 629 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: we're still waiting to see if Penis can play and 630 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: if JJ McCarthy can play, and if Caleb could play, 631 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: we're still paying attention to last year's class. And I'm like, 632 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: cam Ward, not only is Tennessee the Titans a little 633 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: bit of an anonymous franchise. There's no talk. So you're 634 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: down there, you can read the paper. What do you 635 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: hear about this kid? 636 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 7: It's all about high school football down here, Colin. 637 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 8: You know, it's Friday night lights man, you know, and 638 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 8: then you got SEC football on Saturdays. It's like there's 639 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 8: like no energy. You know, you got church on Sunday. 640 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 8: By the time you get to a Titans game at 641 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 8: one o'clock or twelve o'clock on a Sunday. 642 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 7: Now they're they're listen, they're in. 643 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 8: They're one of the teams in the Witness Protection program 644 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 8: of the NFL. 645 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 7: Like they have to do. 646 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 8: Something bad to get a headline like that's just how 647 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 8: it is. And having been on teams that were like 648 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 8: that in Seattle for a lot of my career, it's 649 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 8: okay as a player, Like it's good. You're all about 650 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 8: the ball, You're all about the football, You're not all 651 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 8: about the you know, the drama. And I don't think 652 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 8: that's bad for a young quarterback. 653 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 7: I really don't. I've seen a young. 654 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 8: Quarterback, first pick overall, literally come out of a quarter 655 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 8: and call a time out on the first play of 656 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 8: the game and like there was no headline. I remember 657 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 8: getting online being like, oh my gosh, people are going 658 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 8: to be ripping him for this. No one even said anything, 659 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 8: and like you can't do that playing for the Jets 660 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 8: or the Cowboys or the you know these other teams, 661 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 8: Like you just can't. So it's not the worst place 662 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 8: to be as a young quarterback to kind of have 663 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 8: some growing pains and be in the shadows just a 664 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 8: little bit. But everything that I've heard here is everyone's very, 665 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 8: very excited about him as a player. 666 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck, Man, you just brought your a game today, buddy. 667 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks for stopping brou. 668 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 8: I'm sweating right off the practice field, you know, so 669 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 8: we'll got to you know, got to get in shape. 670 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 7: His coaches too. 671 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: Here, here we go. Matt Hasselbeck, our guy, eighteen years 672 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL, former sixth round pick out of Boston 673 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: College for the Green Bay Packers, had a great career. Yeah, 674 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: it's and I don't remember where I read it, but 675 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, nobody is talking about cam mord. I mean, 676 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: think about year two, the pressure on J. J. McCarthy, 677 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: Michael Pennix because of the Cousins situation. Raheem Morris has 678 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: to win this year. In year two, Penix has pressure. 679 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: Cam Ward's like invisible, What an advantage for him