1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: What's going on. Everyone appreciate you listening to three and 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Out with John mittle Coop of the Colin Coward podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm back from Indianapolis. The combine was a great week 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: at Howie Roseman had the general manager of the Eagles. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: We'll get to him a little later. Matt Naggie of 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: the Bears had Greg co Sell. Uh. Today, we've got 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. Some some of my thoughts 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: on on just free agency in general in the NFL. Uh, 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: we'll bring back a clip and something. How he said 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: involved to my thoughts on on Nick Foles, what expectations 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: are like in the NFL, and just how they kind 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: of crumbled different organizations all over the league. It's easy 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: when you're a team like the Browns and if you 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: win five games, they'll throw you a parade. It's hard 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: when your fan base thinks you're, you know, a perennial 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: and a consistent playoff team. And then Christian McCaffrey, he 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: says someone's life on a hike. It is in his 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: home state of Colorado. I actually, though, you know, talk 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: to some people in the league this week. His name 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: came up a couple of times with some teams that 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: were potentially going to draft him in the men teens 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: and are pretty grateful they did not. In my opinion, 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: the most overrated holiday in America is New Year's Eve, 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: yet it gets arguably the most hype, especially when you're young, 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: of of any holiday out there. I would say in 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: my experience, I'm thirty three years old since leaving college, 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: so basically about the last ten years, I've had one 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: good New Year's over the last ten years. But every year, 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: all my friends, everyone in my life now social media, 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: everyone's hyping it up New Year's Eve. What are we 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: gonna do? Where are we gonna go? What party? Are 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: we gonna spend two just to get in? And it 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: always sucks. When I was in Philadelphia, I was a 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: part of the Dream Team and I remember finally getting 35 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: to the NFL and NFL free agency. It was so awesome. 36 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: The great part about the NFL and I could come 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: from college. In college, the players pick you. In the NFL, 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: it's a business, you pick them. Free agency, who are 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: you gonna sign? So we came out the gates by 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: second year, swinging signed down the Asua we had traded for. 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: DRC signed Jason Babin, Ronnie Brown all Vince Young as 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: our backup quarterback. On paper, it looked unreal year in 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: though and year out. No probably day in sports, and 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: really free agency lasts a little while, but those first 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: couple of days in NFL free agency are very big, 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: are more overrated than NFL free agency. In basketball, when 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: you signed to Kevin Durant, you know when when you 48 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: sign or even trade for because officially on the data 49 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: free agency you can officially make trades like the Minnesota 50 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Timberwolves traded for Jimmy Butler. It's kind of a plug 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: in play league. Definitely baseball. If I trade for a 52 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: third baseman that hits me thirty five bombs, he is 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: more than likely gonna hit bombs when he comes to 54 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: my team. In the NFL, that's not the case yet. 55 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: The hype every year on NFL free agency is so massive, 56 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: just like New Year's Eve, and it never lives up 57 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: to the hype. The reality though, in two thousand and eighteen, 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: it's an all time bad class as we just saw 59 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: all these guys from Levian Bell, who's one of the 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: best players on the in the NFL, DeMarcus Lawrence, uh, 61 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, even LaMarcus Joiner that was a little bit 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: of a curveball that was franchise with the l A Rams. 63 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller, who a contract negotiator in the NFL, had 64 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: told me that he thought he was gonna get more 65 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: money than Tremaine Johnson, was just transition tag, which basically 66 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: makes him a restricted free agent in the sense that 67 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears can match any contract that another team 68 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: gives him. He is not a true free agent anymore. 69 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: The guys, the big time names that are true street 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: free agents. Andrew Norwell, who was gonna get twelve thirteen 71 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, wasn't even the best guard on 72 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: his team. I have people in the league, somebuddy's of 73 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: mine that are pro scouts, that think he's a stiff. 74 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm gonna pay top dollar for an 75 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: NFL free agent that's a guard, he better be collectio smile. 76 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: That's not Andrew Norwell, again, not the best guard on 77 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: his own team. Nate Soldier tackle for the New England Patriots' 78 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: thirty years old Allen Robinson, that might be the most 79 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: talented player on the quote unquote open market, is coming 80 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: off an a c L injury, and I know and 81 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: I do this to make it seem like a c 82 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: L injuries are no big deal, you know. I think 83 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: sometimes we gotta pump the brakes on that. For every 84 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, there's a lot of guys that are never 85 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: the same. Obviously, Kirk Cousins is one of the biggest 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: free agents you know in the of I would say 87 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: in recent memory, But the reality is he's choosing between 88 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: two or three teams. Like Case Keenom is one of 89 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: the biggest free agents on the open market. It is 90 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: one of the most overrated events in American sport because 91 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: in football you build your team through subtle moves. Most times, 92 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: big free agents that the Dominican sues do not work out, 93 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: even when they're good and do. Dominican has taken a 94 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: lot of ship over the years for not quite living 95 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: up to the contract. He has been solid, but he 96 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: is not a difference maker in the sense that he 97 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: validates that sixty million dollars in escrow that you gave 98 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: him on the day of signing. That you don't feel 99 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: his impact just as a fan sitting there. The coaches 100 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: appreciate him, the opponent appreciates them, but was it really 101 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: worth it? I'd say no yet. The hype on this 102 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: is so big and that's the power of the NFL. 103 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: But in reality it's New Year's Eve. It's so overhyped, 104 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: and then you'll leave, you know, once it's March twenty 105 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: if you realize, God, that was kind of boring. You know, 106 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: really look at the draft. The draft basically like fourth 107 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: of July er Thanksgiving. It always lives up to the hype. 108 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: The draft is where you make your hey as an 109 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: NFL football fan or a football team. That's how you 110 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: build championships. That's where you really find players. That's how 111 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: you impact your team. In free agency, more than likely 112 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna sign contracts. Do you potentially regret in six months? 113 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: In a year? Definitely in two years, the majority of 114 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: them do not work out. We love transactions. It's why 115 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: we love fantasy football. It's why anyone that gets into 116 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: the business like like I did. It's what you aspire 117 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: to be a part of, making moves, you know, signing players, 118 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: uh and in in the NFL, I really think if 119 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: you look at the best teams, they make more of 120 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: an impact on you know, trading like a late round 121 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: pick for a guy, claiming a guy off waivers. Then 122 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: you ever make as a big picture signing, you know 123 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: a guy that you have to give forty fifty sixty 124 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: million guaranteed dollars to. I do not feel comfortable signing 125 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Tremaine Johnson, who I wouldn't want to pay him sixty 126 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. He's not that fast. Yet everyone everywhere 127 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: you go on social media, you know, or any article 128 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: you read, you got his Tremaine Johnson study corner in 129 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: what world? Again, it's just free agency in basketball next year. 130 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: In baseball, guys like Manny Machado, Bryce Harper, those are 131 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: impact players and it's there. They play in a plug 132 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: and play league. That is not the case with football. 133 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: If you put Tremaine Johnson in the wrong spot, in 134 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: the wrong defense, in the wrong scheme, it'll look terrible. 135 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: I saw it with my own eyes. We're just like, Oh, 136 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: DRC put him at Nickel corner. He couldn't do it. 137 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: I'll try nomdie, but he couldn't do it either. Asante 138 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: Samuel wanted no part of it. Scheme is so important 139 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: in football, so much more than the other two sports, 140 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: that when you sign guys in football, when you're signing 141 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: a year old player. There is no more projection. He 142 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: is what he is. But so many teams don't necessarily 143 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: look at it like that, and they end up acquiring 144 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 1: something that doesn't fit. So these next this next week, 145 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna be players that sign and and fans give 146 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: their team and a plus grade. And typically the teams 147 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: that get F and D grades usually turn out to 148 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: be the best. Again, the free agency is the New 149 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Year's eve of holidays. Let's move on to the Eagles 150 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: and Nick Foles. Last week I talked to Howie Roseman, 151 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: and we'll bring back something he said here in a second. 152 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: But I'm a younger guy. So when when whenever you 153 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: first get into the real world and you you leave college, 154 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: typically you don't have much leverage. So when company X 155 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: offers you X amount of dollars usually not that high, 156 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: especially when you come from schools like I did, cal 157 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Polly or Fresno State, you just have to take it. 158 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: You you don't have the ability to walk away. You 159 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: just need a job. You're trying to survive. Then the 160 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: older you get, if things go well and you're good 161 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: at your job, you might have the opportunity to say 162 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: two simple letters that are really powerful no and just 163 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: walk away. Anyone in business that anyone that's had mentors 164 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: for business deals will tell you the most powerful thing 165 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: in the world is saying no and walking away from 166 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: a deal. It happens all the time in every business, 167 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: especially football. Right now, the Eagles have the luxury of 168 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: having an unreal quarterback room. Let's just listen to the 169 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: way that Howie Roseman described that room. We love our 170 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: quarterback room, we love our quarterback situation, and um, there's 171 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: nothing more important in this league than that, and that's 172 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: by design. And those guys do an unbelievable job together 173 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: and their chemistry is great, and so um, we're very 174 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: happy to have all three of those guys on our team. 175 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: Right now, the Eagles have all the leverage in the situation, 176 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: literally one hundred percent of the leverage. Their young star quarterback, 177 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: who was banged up, has a torn a c L. 178 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: We don't know what's gonna be back. I would imagine 179 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: they have some idea, but they don't have a concrete date. 180 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: Might be ready for Week one, might not be. Is 181 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: still on a rookie contract, so it's not like he's 182 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: making thirty million dollars, which he will one day. I'm 183 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: sure a mass if he comes back healthy. They have 184 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: a guy that makes six seven million dollars. Then they 185 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: have Nick Foles that also makes give or take around 186 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: that amount. They have Nate Sudfeld, a guy that you 187 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: talked to anyone around the Eagles feels like they really like. 188 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: But the one really powerful thing that I don't think 189 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: any other in the league could say. I do believe 190 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: that New England could have said this before they traded 191 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. They had two quarterbacks on their roster that 192 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: they could have won a super Bowl with. There is 193 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: definitely not a team think about that. Most teams in 194 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: the league do not have a starter that you feel 195 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: comfortable that could win a super Bowl, let alone a 196 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: back up. I've been around Howie Roseman. He is very 197 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: billy being like value is very important to him. Anyone 198 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: in business understands value. It is important in every walk 199 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: of life. I saw this when when I used to 200 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: work in radio. There there was a bottom line and 201 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: then there was a reality, you know, and the bottom 202 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: line is, you know, if someone offers you a second 203 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: round pick, you probably should move on. But there's a 204 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: reality that why could we not win another Super Bowl, 205 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: And now we have the luxury like in two thousand 206 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: and eighteen, that if Carson comes back and he's healthy, 207 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: what we have a contingency plan with Nick Foles if 208 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Carson is not the same where hell gets injured again. 209 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: We just wrote Nick back out there. It is one 210 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: of the all time luxuries. And and I know this, 211 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: and I think most people you know aspirational, those alpha 212 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: males are like this, always looking for the next best thing, 213 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: always trying to upgrade. Most people in football front offices 214 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: are always trying to find an upgrade. Here's the problem, 215 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: and I think everyone's freaking out. Multiple reports the Eagles 216 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: would demand a first round pick. Is that that crazy 217 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: to demand a first round pick? We just saw a 218 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: guy who is capable in the biggest moments against the 219 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: best teams to win the most important games, arguably in 220 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: American sport, the super Bowl, which is the biggest game, 221 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: but then the playoff games. How good he wasn't that 222 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: second half in Atlanta? How good he was in Minnesota? 223 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: Like how many starting quarterbacks right and out in the NFL? 224 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: Do you feel comfortable saying even have that in the 225 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: back now? Is Nick really that good? I I don't know. 226 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: I would probably lean no, but I know he has 227 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: the ability to raise his game to the highest level. 228 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: What what is the rush if you're Philadelphia to even 229 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: think about trading him for anything less than a first 230 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: round pick. If anything, I'm letting the quarterback carousel kind 231 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: of play itself out. Let Kirk Cousins go somewhere, Let 232 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Case Keenum go somewhere, maybe even let the draft play out. 233 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: There are gonna be a team or two that are 234 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: left empty handed and not comfortable in their quarterback situation. 235 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: Then they may get desperate. We saw this a couple 236 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: of years ago. Uh Teddy Bridgewater's leg basically fell off 237 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: in practice. The Eagles had this great luxury of having Bradford, 238 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: of having obviously just drafted Carson Wentz. They also had 239 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: Chase Daniels on the roster. Turns out he's not a 240 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: very good player, but whatever they thought at the time, 241 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: he was a serviceable backup. They traded sham Bradford and 242 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: got a first round pick, and no one in their 243 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: right mind would have said Sam Bradford's worthy of a 244 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: first round pick. And it's kind of played out that way, 245 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: And it turns out saying Bradford's pretty good. He just 246 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: can't stay healthy. Teams people get desperate, and when you 247 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: have leverage and you keep saying no, eventually someone will 248 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: hit their knees and start begging. And that's where how 249 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: we can take advantage. In worst case, you just keep them. 250 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Then you have two quarterbacks on your roster that are 251 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: capable of winning the Super Bowl. I say that with 252 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I don't you know he may never win 253 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. I'm pretty confident if he's healthy, he's 254 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: capable of winning a super Bowl. I can say without 255 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: hesitation it's a fact. Nick Foles is capable of winning 256 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. No other team in the league can 257 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: say that. No other team can even begin to say that. 258 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: Think how powerful of a situation the Philadelphia Eagles are in. 259 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: So what I see, Nick Foles isn't worth first round pick? 260 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: Are you crazy? I mean, how many? How many quarterbacks 261 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL have that in the bag, But we 262 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: just witnessed half the league. Maybe they're starters, let alone 263 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: their backups. I think Howie Roseman is in the driver's seat, 264 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: and depending on how it plays out, I would not 265 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: be shocked if in the next three or four months. 266 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: It might not be in the two thousand and eighteen draft. 267 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: It might be in the two thousand nineteen draft. A 268 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: first round pick is coming their way. Okay, let's get 269 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: onto expectations in the NFL. I saw this tweet. It 270 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: was in Peter King's MMQB. I also follow the guy, 271 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: but I must have missed it when he tweeted it 272 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: live that Mike Cliss works in Denver, covers the Denver 273 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: Broncos tight with John Elway. Must have been either talking 274 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: one on one with Seattle general manager John Snyder or 275 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: Baby Sneider said this at his at the NFL combine 276 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: at his press conference with Schneider said, we went nine 277 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: and seven, and it felt like we won two games. Obviously, 278 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: the Seahawks had been winning the NFC West Forever, had 279 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: been basically dominating the NFL, had been to a couple 280 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: of Super Bowls, had been you know, one of the 281 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: standard setters in the league, and he's kind of right. 282 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: They went nine and said they felt like a debacle, 283 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: and I'm just seeing on Twitter Richard Sherman's probably gonna 284 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: be gone. They even entertained trade Neurl Thomas, but the 285 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: pressure and the expectations in the Seattle building are so high. 286 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily super Bowl or bust. Really, let's call 287 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: it what it is. New England is the only place 288 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: you can say super Bowl or bust. But Seattle is 289 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: one of the five or six teams that truly like 290 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: anything less than a playoff berth and really a division 291 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: championship feels like a complete let nine and seven and 292 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: it felt like they won two games that those are 293 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: the expectations now. You know, you look around the league 294 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: and you go like Cleveland, they have no expectations. If 295 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: they've won one game in the last two years. If 296 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland were to draft Donald or Mayfield or one of 297 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks and win four or five games, hell, they 298 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: throw them a freaking parade. The Arizona Cardinals, like, God 299 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: love them, Bruce Arians a huge fan. That's a franchise 300 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: that the expectations. You know, if they go eight and 301 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: eight again, that'd be fine. The Chicago Bears, I had 302 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: Matt Matt Naggie on last week. I actually think they're 303 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: gonna be eight. They've been one of the best bad 304 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. But if they're just competitive seven 305 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: and nine, eight and eight, somewhere in there, people are 306 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: gonna be fired up. But there are a couple of 307 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: teams and I live in the Bay Area. Well, what's 308 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: what's the famous the famous saying is that that pressure 309 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: burst pipes and it also makes diamonds. Well, in the NFL, 310 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: it's definitely making bursting more pipes than it is making diamonds. Really, beside, 311 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers on a typical year, 312 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: Russell Will several years ago, most times pipes are just bursting. 313 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: People are getting fired, organizations are getting blown up. But 314 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: I got two teams that live in my backyard that 315 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: the expectations I don't think could be much higher. Let's 316 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: start with the Raiders. John Gruden just got a hundred 317 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: million dollars. When you pay a coach ten plus million 318 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: dollars a year, which I think Nick Saban makes eleven. 319 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: We don't truly know how much Bill Belichick makes. If 320 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: I had to guess, I think Belichick makes like fifteen million. 321 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: If he's not making at least fifteen million, he is 322 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: wildly underpaid. But the expectation when you have John Gruden 323 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: making a hundred million dollars for a ten year deal, 324 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: every year you don't make the playoffs is gonna be 325 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: a massive disappointment, especially this year. He has a million 326 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: dollar quarterback. I've talked to people in the league that 327 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: expect Khalil Mack to sign in the next maybe before 328 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: free agency, a five year, hundred and five hundred and 329 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: ten million dollar deal with quarterback like guarantees of seventies 330 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars all guaranteed. When you have that 331 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: a ten million dollar quarterback, a franchise defensive player, and 332 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback like and anything less than winning ten 333 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: plus games and winning a wild card at minimum, like 334 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: John Snyder said, it's gonna feel like you just won 335 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: two games. People are gonna be ripping their hair out, 336 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: like eight Nate is gonna feel like devastation. The expectations 337 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: for the Raiders are pretty damn high. And that's I mean, 338 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And I do think it's a 339 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: tangible thing. It's not fake. Like anything less than the 340 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: playoffs is gonna be like, don't jump and then the 341 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: other team down the road in Santa Clara. It's a 342 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: little different because I saw it last year. Kyle Shanahan 343 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: and John Lunch took over an organization, there were zero expectations. 344 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: They had just you know, won two games with Chip Kelly. 345 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: They were drafted number two overall. They had hit rock 346 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: bottom as a franchise. In my life, the majority of 347 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: my life is spent in Northern California. When I was born, 348 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: the Niners kicked ass for like twenty plus years. Then 349 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: they went through a dry spell and they came back 350 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: with hardback. They hit rock bottom with Chip Kelly. So 351 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: when Kyle took over, talking to people around the league, 352 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: they were at one point in time, they were one 353 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: in nine and it felt, you know what, they're doing 354 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: a pretty good job. They're making strides. Then Jimmy came 355 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: at all went out the window. They won their last 356 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: five games. They paid him an enormous contract that I 357 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: think I had no issue with them paying. But now 358 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: you have Kyle Shanahan, which when I was at the combine, 359 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: the one guy that everyone kept wanting to talk about 360 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: just football people, not as much about Jimmy Garoppolo, But 361 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: was Kyle Shanahan how good and how elite of an 362 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: offensive coach? Kyle Shanahan is. And I agree, But when 363 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: you're an elite offensive coach and you have a franchise quarterback. Now, 364 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: unlike the Raiders, the forty Niners aren't quite as good. 365 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: They don't have their Khalil mac Uh, they don't have 366 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: a very good offensive line the Raiders are. But we 367 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: saw the Niners with Kyle's genius and Jimmy's play rattle 368 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: off a bunch of wins at the end of the year. 369 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: Now are they an undefeated level team. No, but the 370 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: expectations around the Bay Area and I think you're starting 371 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: to see nationally this was like what the Raiders were 372 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and now what they're gonna 373 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: be like basically in perpetuity. As long as Gruten's around, 374 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna be playoffs or bust. Like, you better compete 375 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: to win nine games. And I don't know if that's 376 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: necessarily fair. But so far the the John Lynch and 377 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan there there have been BFFs. Well, they haven't 378 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: had expectations yet. Now the expectations are here and we 379 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 1: see it all around the league. It's it burst pipes, 380 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, most times diamonds are not made. Now, I 381 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: was really impressed watching Kyle Shanahan operate when they were 382 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: losing but again, there were no expectations. When you add 383 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: that expectation into the room, there's a there's a whole 384 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: different aura. There's a there's a sense of pressure that 385 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: you feel every day. When I got to work, when 386 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: I got hired in two thousand and ten with the 387 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, it was playoffs or bust every year. That 388 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: that was it. I mean, that's that was the Andy 389 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: Reid standard. He had been winning for so long. The 390 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are gonna feel it this year. They feel 391 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: it every year because they're the Dallas Cowboys. But they 392 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: don't have many excuses. Like Jason Garrett times shooter get 393 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: off the pot. If Ezekiel Elliott and Dak Prescott are 394 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: healthy without offensive line, you know you have a you 395 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: just franchised a pass rusher. Your division. The Redskins are 396 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: falling apart. The Giants are not very good. Obviously, the 397 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: Eagles are super Bowl chances, but you got no excuse 398 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: not to be a playoff team. And I'd argue they 399 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: would have been a playoff team last year if Zeke 400 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: and gets spent it for six games. But there's gonna 401 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: be a tangible pressure. Jerry Jones just talked about it 402 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: at the Combine in his in his RV with the 403 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: with the star on the side of it, which is 404 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: pretty badass. By the way, the r V. He has 405 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: an RV that picks him up and drives him around 406 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: at the Indian Indianapolis Combine. What a legend. But it's 407 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: the pressure around Dallas is gonna be as big as 408 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: it's been in recent memory. They have no excuses to 409 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: not make the playoffs. And I think Schneider hit it 410 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: on the head. When when you have those type expectations 411 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: and Seattle's were really high because they had been to 412 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs so many times, it feels like you win 413 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: two or three games, even if you win eight or nine, 414 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: if you're not playing on that wild card weekend or 415 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: have a buy it feels like it's it was a 416 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: complete failure. And obviously in the NBA, eight teams from 417 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: each conference make it so you can be kind of 418 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: crappy and still make the playoffs. In baseball, it's not 419 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: really like if you win over if you go above 420 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: five hundred the season, so long, if that means you're 421 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: in the wild card race, it feels like a pretty 422 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: productive season because you're getting butts in the seats. That's 423 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: not the way it is in the NFL. L hits 424 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: for a lot of these franchises, and I don't think 425 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: the two ones in the Bay Area. It couldn't be 426 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: any higher in Oakland that when you pay a coach 427 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: that much money. With the forty Niners, the timeline just 428 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: got fast forward mode. I would have said a couple 429 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: of years, but when you land Jimmy Garoppolo, you pay 430 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: them all that money and it's pretty clear you have 431 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: a star head coach. I don't think it's crazy to 432 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: say they got playoff expectations and it was gonna be 433 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: disappointing if they don't make it. So it's gonna be 434 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch the two teams in the Bay Area 435 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: how they truly handle enormous expectations. The Raiders have had 436 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: a some familiarity with it the last couple of years 437 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: because they've had some, but nothing like they have now 438 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: with John Gruden on the sideline, and the forty Niners 439 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: haven't had anywhere close since Horball. Okay, let's end on 440 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: this story that came out. I think on Tuesday about 441 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: Panthers rookie running back, I'll call him slot receiver, former 442 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: Stanford superstar Christian McCaffrey. Just an incredible human, high character guy. 443 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: Witnessed he was in his home state at Colorado, saw 444 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: a guy fall like twenty plus feet on a hike. 445 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: Basically the guy like shattered his back, shattered his leg. 446 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, you know, turns into Superman, saves his life, 447 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: calls nine one one, fires down this mountain and just 448 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: helps this guy to live. Just an incredible story. Anyone 449 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: that's heard any story about Christian McCaffrey not shocked at all. 450 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: He's a stud. Uh, and I guess he went to 451 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: visit the guy at the hospital. Of the story was 452 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: on Panthers dot Com. McCaffrey said that it felt like 453 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: the dude was in the air for ten seconds. I 454 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: can't imagine falling on a hike and landing on the 455 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: rocks has to really hurt. McCaffrey saved his life. That's 456 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: he was a in scouting terms. Uh, some might call 457 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: it a gift. You know, it's from on a character standpoint, 458 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: just an elite guy, special guy, save the guy's life. 459 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: His name actually came up though, when I was in Indianapolis. 460 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: A couple of different times from teams that would have 461 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: potentially drafted him in the mid teams, and both the 462 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: teams that I was talking to kind of said they 463 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: were glad that it worked out they ended up with 464 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: the guy they did and not Christian McCaffrey. Christi McAffrey 465 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: went the top ten the Carolina Panthers. Both the people 466 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: I was talking to felt it was pretty clear after 467 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: his rookie year and they had some reservations. These guys 468 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: were not the decision makers, they were just the scouts 469 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: that had evaluated him. They didn't love him as a 470 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: running back the way he projected the league, and they 471 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: feel even more confident about that today that he's not 472 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: a running back Kareem Hunt, you know, uh, Alvin Kamara 473 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: of that, Like those guys are running backs now. The 474 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: one thing Christian McCaffrey does really well, and it's clear 475 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna do this for a long time. They're not 476 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: disputing the people I talked to that he's gonna be 477 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: a really good player. Catches last year. They think he's 478 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: like Julian Edelman. He's a slot receiver, but you don't 479 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: draft slot receivers in the top ten. They don't think 480 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: he'll ever live up to the hype as an inside 481 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: running back. I had some reservations, but after watching the 482 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: first year of Christian McCaffrey, I'm pretty confident too. And 483 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: if hell, if he's Juliet Edelman, that's not a bus 484 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: by any means you feel really good about it. And 485 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: that that might be in scouting terms of stand up double, 486 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: you know, hell it might. You might be round and 487 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: two thinking you might have hit a triple as a 488 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: draft pick. But when you draft a running back in 489 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: the top ten, you need him to be have an 490 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson like career. You know, Marshawn Lynch I think 491 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: was like the twelfth overall pick. You need it to 492 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: be that. A couple of years ago, Todd Gurley went ten, 493 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: you have to be a running back to I don't 494 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: think Christian McCaffrey is ever going to be a running 495 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: back now. The one thing he does really well catch 496 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: the football, and in two thousand eighteen, that really matters. 497 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: But I think we'll see in the next several years 498 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: that he will just become a full time wide receiver. 499 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: And I think at the end of the day, when 500 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: we look back, will go, you know what, that pick 501 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: that drafted him there for what he brings to the table. 502 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, if you could do it all over again, 503 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: I think Julian Edelman was a seventh round pick for 504 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick in New England Patriots. Remember he was a 505 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: quarterback in college. They transitioned it. He became up until 506 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: he got hurt last year. For like three or four years, 507 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: the best slot receiver in the league. I'm pretty sure 508 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: west Walker was undrafted, same type deal. And the draft 509 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: is just simple supply, demand and value. And at the 510 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: end of the day, if Christian McCaffrey is not a consistent, 511 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, hundred yard rusher, even if he is catching 512 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: you a lot of balls, I think it will be 513 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: very disappointing. Now I'm not saying if you could redraft, 514 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: I think Julian Edelman probably still go in the first round. 515 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: But you take that guy in the twenty in the 516 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: early thirties, not in the top ten. So Christian McCaffrey proven. 517 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna fall off a rock on 518 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: a hike, you want Christian McCaffrey to be around you 519 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: because they'll save your life. But if I'm drafted in 520 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: the top ten, and you know I'm drafting a running back. 521 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if Christian McCaffrey is my guy. I 522 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: want to thank everyone for listening second full week of 523 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: Three and Out. If you listen on iTunes, subscribe, leave 524 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: any questions you may have, college or pro anything. I'm 525 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: open you can go any different direction. You guys are 526 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: crushing it numbers wise. Uh, Colin for giving me this opportunity. 527 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: I can't thank him enough that you're listening to Three 528 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: and Out with John Middlecoff on the Colin Coward Podcast. 529 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: Networking