WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, September 27 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:09.520 It is Monday, September twenty seven. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.840 Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by Jet Home Loans 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.759 and now a guy who never went down a hundred 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.520 and nine yards but could possibly put down one yard 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:31.000 a hundred and nine times, Jay Pa, I don't dispute that. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.560 Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.239 after a Jaguars loss. The Jacks felt of the Arizona 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.080 Cardinals yesterday in Week three at t I A Bank 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.959 Field a final count of thirty one nineteen. Here's what's 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.360 coming up on the show today, Pete Prisco and Tony Vasselli. 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.360 Prisco is present, ms Elli at this moment is not 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.000 and we'll get to him at some point. Maybe the 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.360 third quarter is really where this game turned. Late in 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:04.880 the third we'll break down all those situations, including the 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:11.640 failed flee flicker and that play actually put Arizona ahead 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.520 for good social media questions, and we'll go around the 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.520 National Football League. Pete Frisco with us now and at 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.640 Pete and first off, good afternoon to you. We've got 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.760 a lot to get to today. What's up, j P. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:27.199 Where's uh? I don't know, but we'll take the ratings 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.080 spike anytime we can get it. Pete, So is he 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:31.720 on the golf course or what I mean? Is he 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.240 on like a teen? Now he's just got done a teen? 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.360 He's racing in. Yeah, he's probably got a to go 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.080 cup with him, a little styrofoam walking in here here 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.560 he is? Hey, what golf course did you play? Tony? 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.160 Did you just finish a team? Get a shower in? Like? 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.520 What's what's up with you? Golf? Today? That was actually 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.559 just right next door? How did you hit him today? Tony? 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.720 It's only four oh one. I'm only minute. I didn't 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:58.560 play golf for the first nine. By the way, you're 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.280 six minutes late because supposed to be here five minutes early. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.640 Thank you. I don't know. Are we still working on 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:12.119 that schedule here? Apparently not, because somebody on that schedule 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:17.320 that's a life lesson. What an interesting? Uh? What an interesting? 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:22.280 Things have escalated? Or so. The Jacks had a nine 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.000 point lead yesterday, it slipped away in the third quarter 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.200 and they never looked back, and then all of a 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.920 sudden they traded away at first round corner today to 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:33.919 the Carolina Panthers. Tony Well you know, there's so much 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.639 to unpack there, and I know we want to talk 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.639 about the game and we will, but the trading away 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.600 of a top ten pick? Can we talk about C J. Anderson? 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.160 Let's do it? Yeah, the trading way of a top 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.520 we can That's all. Okay, Pete, thanks the trading way. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.800 It's official now the team announced it. So yes, trading 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.120 awave a top ten pick. And I don't know much 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.560 about Dan Arnold, but would calling him a journeyman tight 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.160 end with that be fair? I think so. He was 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:06.360 undrafted in seventeen out of Wisconsin Platteville and has been 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.560 a couple of different spots, so journeyman bounced around. My 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.000 guest is you probably could have gotten in the off 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.359 season if you wanted him that bad. They actually Urban 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:18.280 actually said that today. We wanted him in free agency. Um, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.280 and you had to give away a fifth to get 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.920 a third. So you got a guy I'm not and 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:25.400 maybe he'll try out to be great. I mean I 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.600 hope he does. Maybe he's the next Antonio Gates who 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:34.520 was undrafted. Okay, but you know what I'm saying, Pete, Um, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.120 and you you gave him a top ten pick in 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.760 a fifth or third, basically um and a guy you 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.520 could have gotten, And so makes you go back and think. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.880 This team has had a lot of top ten picks 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:52.560 over the last decade, most of them. Well, I'll say this, 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.680 we we have a list of them if you're watching 0:03:54.720 --> 0:04:00.440 on Jaguars dot com. The since or so even there's 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:04.520 been ten top ten picks, a lot of first rounders, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:08.320 but only two of the top ten picks remain on 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.160 the team, Trevor Lawrence and Josh Allen in that time. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.480 Of course, ten is on i R right now. C. J. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.000 Henderson's now with the Panthers. David Bryant is here, but 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.120 he was later in the first round. The only two 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.480 top ten picks going back to Tyson ala Al who 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.560 was one of those, these are the Steelers, Blames with 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.360 the Bucks now of course black Man, Joco Borders all 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.200 out of football, Dante Fowlers with the Falcons. Ramsey went 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.680 to the Rams. Leonard Fournette has a Super Bowl ring 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:37.000 in Tampa. And there you go. So, I mean he's 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.679 say this now the Rams one, the Jalen Ramsey trade. 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.679 Oh my, what what? What? I was trying to remember 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.400 what picks did we get for Jalen Ramsey, what players 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:52.760 you got that? Um? Which it was the second? There 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.719 was the second picks of each round, right, it was 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.920 the twenty, It was the chase on and the e 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.040 t N. Wasn't it two? First? Is that it is? Know? 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:05.560 I think it's um, That's right, That's it? Is it? Yeah? Well, 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.599 I mean the bottom line I mean, and I don't 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.680 want to revisit the draft or anything like that, but 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.919 the bottom line is you look at that group of players, 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.120 and those are supposed to be. I mean, I'm not 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.440 saying every one of them is gonna hit, but those 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.600 are your starters, and a handful of those guys are 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:28.680 supposed to be the stars and the team, the difference makers. Um, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.520 and some of them wouldn't be here anyways in a 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.719 normal I guess That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:37.440 all of them, I'm saying, but like some should be though. Pete, well, yeah, 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.440 well Ramsey, if Ramsey hadn't had his um, you know, 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:45.080 pounding episode, then he's here. Fowler had all kinds of 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.920 problems in Jacksonville, Let's be real about it. But but 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.680 Dante's probably is he as good or better? The name 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.920 passed Rusher we have on the team right now. Ah. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.400 He he had a bad year last year, so he's 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.479 up one. Yeah he didn't play well ast okay, um so, 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.480 but my point is, here's the other thing that if 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:05.120 you look at that list, if I'm not mistaken, only 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:11.760 one top ten pick, because maybe it was um take 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.200 out Tyson because I didn't go that far back. But 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.600 I think only one of them got a second contract, 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.720 and that was Blake Bart, which a lot of people 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.599 questioned whether he should have anyways. I mean, you could 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.280 also look at it and say, let's go through the 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.360 draft and say that the draft with the quarterbacks with 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:33.279 Gabberd in it, everybody forced those quarterbacks because they were desperate. Um, 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.719 baby baby Boselli was never any good. But that draft 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.520 was awful from top to bottom. Remember one of the 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.200 other guys that were gonna draft in that draft was 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.120 Dion Jordan. If they had taken Joko and he was 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.680 a bust. The number one overall pick was Fisher. He's 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:51.240 now on his second team. Um, so there are instances 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.200 for a lot of them, but yeah, they blew the picks. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.599 They blew up and miss Henderson pick is really weird. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.360 Because we had the incident, the issue, whatever went on 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:07.760 in the preseason, and then he was inactive on Sunday. 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:09.800 Now they said he had an ankle injury. I think 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:14.400 it was during the week. Was a growing in an 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:20.840 illness is what it was. Okay, are those real? I 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.440 don't know. I mean, the bottom line is it's and 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.160 it's highlighted. Did you guys think anything was up when 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.200 he wasn't active yesterday? No? I didn't. I didn't. I 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.760 didn't expect him to play. I guess it's from the beginning. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:37.360 I guess does he He never loved the game, That's 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:38.880 what you hear. I don't know if that's true or not. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.680 I don't know if it's true. This is all I know. 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:42.440 The only thing that I know that it's true. Is 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.960 why this is a major issue is because it's not 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.720 just the missing in the draft and building out the 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.960 foundation of a franchise that if you look around and 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.320 go up and down the roster right now and you 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.360 compared to other rosters, you're probably not as talented to 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.840 some most teams, and and it's highlighted by the we 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:06.280 have lost eighteen straight games. There's no core Jaguar foundation 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.400 of blue chip guys you drafted very high and developed 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.280 and signed again. That just doesn't exist around here, and 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.880 that's that's has to change now in fairness to Urban. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.680 He just got here. Yeah, so that's not that list 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.080 of people. That's not on his watch, and so you 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.800 can't put that on him. He's trying to his first 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:32.440 draft isn't exactly lighting it up either. Well, and you 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:37.120 have well the injured E t N. You know, okay, 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.840 the quarterback, to your point, is the only one out there. Really, 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:42.680 did you have to running back in that spot? There's 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.040 always a chance of running back. I could get hurt. Pete. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.079 I didn't love to pick either. We've talked about this. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.920 I don't love the pick. But the pick Lawrence number one, 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.040 that was a no brainer. You could have put Tony. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:58.920 Your children when they were eight, could have brought that 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.600 card to the table and that guy. Okay, so let's 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:07.040 not all right? So then E t N been like, yeah, 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.359 Tyson Campbell, who is going to get more run now? Obviously, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.600 well the ball skills, the ball skills are there yet. 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.760 And that was, by the way, that was a that 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.679 was the book on him coming out of Georgia. I mean, 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.520 Draft night, if you looked at anything any of the reports, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.360 it was, you know, finishing in ball skills. And I 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.720 heard that from other coaches as well. That was the book. 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:32.320 All right, Cisco, you skip walker little little has been 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:37.040 hasn't been active yet, Um, Cisco, Cisco is can't can't 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.319 be an out winger to Felly, he's been inactive. So 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.800 two guys that you drafted with injury histories anyways, I 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.959 mean they were both had major injury issues. Go ahead, 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.760 what Felly defensive tackles Southern Now it hasn't been active yet. 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:59.640 I don't think the pass rusher from Birmingham Smith Smith 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.920 not by the way, he was one of the he 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.400 was one of the additional picks in that Jalen Ramsey trade. 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:08.040 They ended up okay, so Tony. So you talk about 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.920 those old drafts. This draft doesn't produce as much of 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.880 anything either. Yeah, But Pete, in fairness, it's early. I mean, 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.080 like you say all the time, you can't make it. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.800 You can't judge the draft probably two or three years down. No, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.720 I'm not judging it. I'm just saying right now this 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.440 draft is producing nothing except for Trevor Lines. Let's hear 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.440 from head coach Urban Meyer today. He spoke with the 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.080 media the day after press conference. The big news though, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.800 was about the trade of c J. Henderson. I think 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.680 number one is the development of Tyson Campbell. He's starting 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:43.160 to perform at what we expect him to be, a 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.200 very very talented guy. You get Trey Herndon back, which 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.960 you can play nicole um and we have to improve 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.560 a lot of areas our team, and uh, you know, 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.840 just see, it might be a good fresh start for 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.760 c J. Had a great visit with his wily and uh, 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.960 I love c J and I spent a lot of 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.840 time with him and his parents, and I don't think 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.240 it's gonna be good for both of us. So, of course, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.520 as we mentioned, Henderson goes to the Carolina Panthers. The 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.120 Jaguars received tight end Dan Arnold, who has been in 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.400 the league for a few years now. They trade picks, 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.720 the third round pick coming to the Jags, fifth round 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.120 pick going to the Panthers, per reports, So you know, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:24.920 and obviously tight end was a little bit of an 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.920 issue yesterday with Hollister with a drop and that caused 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.400 the first interception for Lawrence. And there's not a lot 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.120 of depth at that at least at receiving tight end 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.480 these days. So we'll see if Dan Arnold step into 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.960 that role. I'm sorry, but you don't give up on 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:46.480 a top ten corner a year and three games into 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:51.199 his career. Remember you only played eight games last year, Pete. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.800 You don't give up on him. There's has to be 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.160 other things at play here has to be Oh yeah, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.360 I mean, obviously you're not giving up on him because 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.840 if like, there there is a much bigger story behind 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.960 the scenes, because it's nonsensible that they went to his 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.880 house and they went to his house and gap they 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.880 admitted that the doors mostly he didn't want to be 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.679 at one point you already didn't want to play. Then 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.640 well that's my point. I mean, this is like, there's 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.680 a bigger issue here than just like because I'll I 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.200 will argue this. He's the most talented corner on this team, 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.840 or he was. Here's something like, have you just said 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.839 straight talent? Right, of course he is. Here's something I 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:38.680 can't figure out. Did Urban recruit him to Florida? No? Okay, 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:40.920 so why in the hell does he spending time with 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:50.520 his parents? That's good, I don't know, he's a man 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:56.240 the parents for he cares about like, I don't know 0:12:56.280 --> 0:13:01.800 it's in house, Tony Coffman all your dad, No he 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:06.040 did not, Pete, Okay, I mean your men. You doesn't 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.040 need to be talking to his parents. He's a man, 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:16.959 he's laughing. He's a Carolina panther. Now the trade is done, 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:27.280 and trade for You're unbelievable, Pete. I mean, it's just 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.880 I mean, I agree with Pete from the standpoint, not 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:34.760 as stupid tirade about calling parents or anything. Did you 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.920 give up on a top ten pick this early? Its talented, 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.319 that's just added to the list. It feels like, right, tone, 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:48.360 I mean, it's just another another, another thing. That's what 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.120 it is. That's what's happened. Well, I mean, and you go. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.800 I mean, and we'll get into this. You know, when 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.640 you look at this, I give the d you know, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.920 looking at the game. You know in the side of 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.800 the ball that C. J. Henderson used to play for 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:04.079 this team. Um, I thought the defense played well. I 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:07.360 I get him credit, But offensively, guys, you gotta score 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.120 more than twenty points in two weeks, No doubt. We'll 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:10.880 come back. We're gonna get into the game peat when 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.120 we come back as well, and that late third quarters 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.880 swing in the game too, that's where the momentum really 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.840 changed and the Cardinals offense got down the field. Those 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.760 are really the two big drives in that game where 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.800 the defense didn't perform well. The rest of the game 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.160 they did. That's all coming up second hour. We'll have 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.880 social media questions. They've got a lot to get to 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.280 on a busy Monday. We're off and running. It's Jaguars 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.200 Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:46.440 Digital Network. When Jaguars news breaks, you will hear about 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.680 it first on ten ten X out Home of the 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:57.040 Checks in Bille, Jaguars the trick play there and I 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:58.720 kind of had a guy on my face, so I 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.320 threw it off my back foot and I really didn't 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.960 see the corner fall off on it there. Um, but 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.120 I kind of saw him as the ball was coming down. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.880 So it's just not a good decision. But yeah, I 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.440 didn't really didn't really see the guy that I thought 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.920 we had our tight end Jake open and um, But 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.160 like I said, I was off my back foot didn't help. 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.520 And then I got to just throw it away if 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.720 the guy's close, and you know protect that you can't. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.000 Defense has been playing great and just give him seven 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.200 points there. It just makes it tough. That's the quarterback, 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:33.560 of course, Trevor Lawrence after his interception returned for a touchdown. 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.000 And yesterday's third quarter in the waiting second, so the 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.640 third welcome back. It's Jaguars happy. R J P. Shadrick, 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:45.160 Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco recapping a Jaguars loss in week 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.920 number three, thirty one nineteen. The final score. What are 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.440 you guys laughing at? Can I even get through the 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.800 intro of the game? I know you know why whenever 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:55.360 I go in one of my rants, I can tell this. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.640 Elly agrees with me. He just doesn't want to say. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.280 So let's talk about this. Let's talk about the flee flicker. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.200 Because we were we were, we were texting earlier, and Pete, 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:10.160 you hated the call in that position. Um I, I 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.080 didn't have as much of a problem with you, Pete. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.320 Pete is correct. Typically you see that flee flicker, that 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.600 style play called the call it at the fifty or 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:22.000 the minust somewhere around midfield because because the wrist reward. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.200 UM I didn't have a problem with it. Because if 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.640 it's blocked up correctly, and it was not blocked correctly. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.040 DJ Chark is ten yards behind the defense and it 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:37.920 is a it's a it's a house call. Now, I 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.640 don't know what the communication was in during the week 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.280 on that play or in his ear, but if I'm 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.240 in the kids here in Trevor Lawrence is here, I'm saying, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.560 if it's not wide open and not there, throw it 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:55.160 in the first row of the stands, and just like, 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.760 no matter what, no matter what, if it's not wide open, 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.920 if you have pressure anything else in the first row, 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.040 because worst case scenari it's thirt and six and our 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.000 defense is playing good. Now, the defense was playing good, 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:08.800 but they just got drove all the way down and 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.679 um Arizona was starting to move the ball. But regardless, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.440 um it was a higher risk because of the field 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.320 area field they did. But let's be clear, they had 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.240 nine straight runs, they were pounding them, they were driving 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.919 the ball, they're having success and it worked beautifully. I mean, 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.479 it was a house call. It's gonna block it if 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.359 you're not gonna block it throwing that stand. So just 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.520 a couple of airs there, execution airs. So I put 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.280 less on the on the play called by Daryl Bevel. 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:37.320 You know, Pete didn't love the area of the field 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.160 that it was done. And that's fair because Pete would 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.280 Pete's right. Most coaches would not call it that backed up. Yeah, 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.440 and and they just ran it down their throat to 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.640 let drive before that. I mean, I get it. That's 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.760 when you said that, Tony, and I understand that. I 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.440 just would have waited to see if you get the 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.399 drive going again, and then when you get closer to midfield, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:56.919 then you take. Then you pull it out and you 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.840 do it. You're right, shark was wide open. I mean 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.520 beat Buddha Baker with that double move and he was 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.680 wide open. This ball handling involved though and protection issues. 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.720 And look, if we run that playback, what is that Carlos? 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.439 What is Carlos high doing? Even I know it's not 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.439 his guy, but he could he get up? I couldn't 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:20.880 really tell when I can he get a piece of him? 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.280 Um now because he was turning. He got beat so fast, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.080 and it was just it was not executed properly up front, Yeah, 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.440 it wasn't. And it was you know, the whirling dervish. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.960 What what did you call that? Bird? Is what Jan 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.720 Taylor called it to it's not on carloside. That's on 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:43.840 in my opinion, and Will Richardson that's the loudes on. Yeah. 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:48.200 But again and I never saw Trevor really looking down 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.080 the field. Well, he didn't have a chance because as 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.119 soon as he caught it, JJ is in his face. Yeah, 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.240 and JJ takes those quick slant chances all the time, 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.480 you know how that is. He didn't. But yeah, again, 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:03.040 I don't mind aggressiveness from this team. I really don't. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.479 And so I understand that you gotta pull off some 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.800 things to try and win. And they got one on 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.120 a kickoff return for a touchdown off of a miss 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.280 or miss field. Go by the way, that was a 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:19.360 terrible decision by Kingsbury. First of all, like two things. One, 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.720 it's so low percentage of you hitting it, and so 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.800 what if you do it's a three point game, It's 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.960 like are you kidding me? And then secondly, second is 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.800 you have five offensive lineman covering against a guy who 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.000 just returned a kick for a hundred and two yards 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.880 the week before? What are you a bunch of fat 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.440 guys chasing a little fast guy. I'm like that one 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:44.720 right there, that was a gift a gift from Cliff Kingsbury. Well, 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:49.960 at least they showed some speed in that play. Pete. 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.400 I mean, I'm I'm getting down the next part of that. 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:59.720 Should they get him the ball? So yeah, I mean 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:01.560 I think you could. I mean, he's I mean, you know, 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.720 he's only played receiver for like a year, and you 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.600 can gimmick up some garb. But you know how this 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.200 league is now, they gimmick up crap for guys. Yeah, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.919 I mean, I think you get on the field. But 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:14.919 I mean he's a heck of a returner. I mean, 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.320 there's no doubt about that. He has vision and he could, 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.440 he has wheels, and he can make guys miss. He's 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.200 a good players on his way to All Pro right 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:28.440 now at this space. But again again, um, they had momentum. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.000 They went down, drove the ball down, and I know 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:35.080 that the Cardinals had scored James Robinson. They were blasting 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.600 open holes for him too. Yeah, I would have I 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.680 would have just pounded it until I got the midfield. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:43.480 That's what I would have done. And you know me, Tony, 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.080 I'm a pass first guy. But when you come off 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:46.640 a drive where you just rammed it down the throat 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.840 without throwing a pass, go until they stop it. Yeah, 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:53.600 they had done eight straight plays with a run. The 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.040 first one of that drive was wasn't it wasn't it nine? 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.480 I thought they went eight on the drive and then 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.639 one more on the first player. Yeah, yeah, eight on 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.879 that drive and then nine and then what was the 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.040 how many what was the artist on the first run 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.719 that in that series four? It was? It was second 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:13.119 and six. Okay, so go get more and more and 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:14.920 you're third to get four more and you got a 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:16.680 first down. Then you get the midfield that he take 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:20.320 that shot. The timing of the shot, the execution was bad, 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.480 like you said, but the timing and the shot wasn't good. 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:28.399 It's a good idea if you get to midfield. Um, yeah, 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:32.280 it's But it's a bigger issue to me, Pete, because 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.120 even though we're i mean, the offense did good things 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.879 in the run game was better, and James Robinson proves 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:41.720 out what we've been saying, I mean, I've been saying 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.840 justin saying I think pet like, from the beginning of 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.280 the season the offense should go through James Robinson until 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:52.080 Trevor is you know, um, it'll make it will be 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.840 the best development for him, like run the offense to James, 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.479 and they finally did. And I'm not sure he carries 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:02.119 he had I still give him more um him and Carlos. 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:04.800 That's the strength of this team right now, and so 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.439 I give Darryl Bevo credit there. But even with that, 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:14.320 they only scored thirteen points. Is an offense Like, well, 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.280 they don't have any chunk plays in the passing game. 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:19.280 They don't get chunk plays. Yeah, I mean so like 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:21.960 like you like like you can. You can blame the 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:26.040 pick six like my flip side that Okay, okay, call 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.320 something else. Don't tell pick six well, Cliff Kingsbury, don't 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:31.720 try to kick a sixty eight hours field goal. So 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:35.880