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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon
Speaker 1: after a Jaguars loss. The Jacks felt of the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals yesterday in Week three at t I A Bank
Speaker 1: Field a final count of thirty one nineteen. Here's what's
Speaker 1: coming up on the show today, Pete Prisco and Tony Vasselli.
Speaker 1: Prisco is present, ms Elli at this moment is not
Speaker 1: and we'll get to him at some point. Maybe the
Speaker 1: third quarter is really where this game turned. Late in
Speaker 1: the third we'll break down all those situations, including the
Speaker 1: failed flee flicker and that play actually put Arizona ahead
Speaker 1: for good social media questions, and we'll go around the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Pete Frisco with us now and at
Speaker 1: Pete and first off, good afternoon to you. We've got
Speaker 1: a lot to get to today. What's up, j P.
Speaker 1: Where's uh? I don't know, but we'll take the ratings
Speaker 1: spike anytime we can get it. Pete, So is he
Speaker 1: on the golf course or what I mean? Is he
Speaker 1: on like a teen? Now he's just got done a teen?
Speaker 1: He's racing in. Yeah, he's probably got a to go
Speaker 1: cup with him, a little styrofoam walking in here here
Speaker 1: he is? Hey, what golf course did you play? Tony?
Speaker 1: Did you just finish a team? Get a shower in? Like?
Speaker 1: What's what's up with you? Golf? Today? That was actually
Speaker 1: just right next door? How did you hit him today? Tony?
Speaker 1: It's only four oh one. I'm only minute. I didn't
Speaker 1: play golf for the first nine. By the way, you're
Speaker 1: six minutes late because supposed to be here five minutes early.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I don't know. Are we still working on
Speaker 1: that schedule here? Apparently not, because somebody on that schedule
Speaker 1: that's a life lesson. What an interesting? Uh? What an interesting?
Speaker 1: Things have escalated? Or so. The Jacks had a nine
Speaker 1: point lead yesterday, it slipped away in the third quarter
Speaker 1: and they never looked back, and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they traded away at first round corner today to
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Tony Well you know, there's so much
Speaker 1: to unpack there, and I know we want to talk
Speaker 1: about the game and we will, but the trading away
Speaker 1: of a top ten pick? Can we talk about C J. Anderson?
Speaker 1: Let's do it? Yeah, the trading way of a top
Speaker 1: we can That's all. Okay, Pete, thanks the trading way.
Speaker 1: It's official now the team announced it. So yes, trading
Speaker 1: awave a top ten pick. And I don't know much
Speaker 1: about Dan Arnold, but would calling him a journeyman tight
Speaker 1: end with that be fair? I think so. He was
Speaker 1: undrafted in seventeen out of Wisconsin Platteville and has been
Speaker 1: a couple of different spots, so journeyman bounced around. My
Speaker 1: guest is you probably could have gotten in the off
Speaker 1: season if you wanted him that bad. They actually Urban
Speaker 1: actually said that today. We wanted him in free agency. Um,
Speaker 1: and you had to give away a fifth to get
Speaker 1: a third. So you got a guy I'm not and
Speaker 1: maybe he'll try out to be great. I mean I
Speaker 1: hope he does. Maybe he's the next Antonio Gates who
Speaker 1: was undrafted. Okay, but you know what I'm saying, Pete, Um,
Speaker 1: and you you gave him a top ten pick in
Speaker 1: a fifth or third, basically um and a guy you
Speaker 1: could have gotten, And so makes you go back and think.
Speaker 1: This team has had a lot of top ten picks
Speaker 1: over the last decade, most of them. Well, I'll say this,
Speaker 1: we we have a list of them if you're watching
Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com. The since or so even there's
Speaker 1: been ten top ten picks, a lot of first rounders,
Speaker 1: but only two of the top ten picks remain on
Speaker 1: the team, Trevor Lawrence and Josh Allen in that time.
Speaker 1: Of course, ten is on i R right now. C. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson's now with the Panthers. David Bryant is here, but
Speaker 1: he was later in the first round. The only two
Speaker 1: top ten picks going back to Tyson ala Al who
Speaker 1: was one of those, these are the Steelers, Blames with
Speaker 1: the Bucks now of course black Man, Joco Borders all
Speaker 1: out of football, Dante Fowlers with the Falcons. Ramsey went
Speaker 1: to the Rams. Leonard Fournette has a Super Bowl ring
Speaker 1: in Tampa. And there you go. So, I mean he's
Speaker 1: say this now the Rams one, the Jalen Ramsey trade.
Speaker 1: Oh my, what what? What? I was trying to remember
Speaker 1: what picks did we get for Jalen Ramsey, what players
Speaker 1: you got that? Um? Which it was the second? There
Speaker 1: was the second picks of each round, right, it was
Speaker 1: the twenty, It was the chase on and the e
Speaker 1: t N. Wasn't it two? First? Is that it is? Know?
Speaker 1: I think it's um, That's right, That's it? Is it? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean the bottom line I mean, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to revisit the draft or anything like that, but
Speaker 1: the bottom line is you look at that group of players,
Speaker 1: and those are supposed to be. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying every one of them is gonna hit, but those
Speaker 1: are your starters, and a handful of those guys are
Speaker 1: supposed to be the stars and the team, the difference makers. Um,
Speaker 1: and some of them wouldn't be here anyways in a
Speaker 1: normal I guess That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: all of them, I'm saying, but like some should be though. Pete, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: well Ramsey, if Ramsey hadn't had his um, you know,
Speaker 1: pounding episode, then he's here. Fowler had all kinds of
Speaker 1: problems in Jacksonville, Let's be real about it. But but
Speaker 1: Dante's probably is he as good or better? The name
Speaker 1: passed Rusher we have on the team right now. Ah.
Speaker 1: He he had a bad year last year, so he's
Speaker 1: up one. Yeah he didn't play well ast okay, um so,
Speaker 1: but my point is, here's the other thing that if
Speaker 1: you look at that list, if I'm not mistaken, only
Speaker 1: one top ten pick, because maybe it was um take
Speaker 1: out Tyson because I didn't go that far back. But
Speaker 1: I think only one of them got a second contract,
Speaker 1: and that was Blake Bart, which a lot of people
Speaker 1: questioned whether he should have anyways. I mean, you could
Speaker 1: also look at it and say, let's go through the
Speaker 1: draft and say that the draft with the quarterbacks with
Speaker 1: Gabberd in it, everybody forced those quarterbacks because they were desperate. Um,
Speaker 1: baby baby Boselli was never any good. But that draft
Speaker 1: was awful from top to bottom. Remember one of the
Speaker 1: other guys that were gonna draft in that draft was
Speaker 1: Dion Jordan. If they had taken Joko and he was
Speaker 1: a bust. The number one overall pick was Fisher. He's
Speaker 1: now on his second team. Um, so there are instances
Speaker 1: for a lot of them, but yeah, they blew the picks.
Speaker 1: They blew up and miss Henderson pick is really weird.
Speaker 1: Because we had the incident, the issue, whatever went on
Speaker 1: in the preseason, and then he was inactive on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Now they said he had an ankle injury. I think
Speaker 1: it was during the week. Was a growing in an
Speaker 1: illness is what it was. Okay, are those real? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, the bottom line is it's and
Speaker 1: it's highlighted. Did you guys think anything was up when
Speaker 1: he wasn't active yesterday? No? I didn't. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't expect him to play. I guess it's from the beginning.
Speaker 1: I guess does he He never loved the game, That's
Speaker 1: what you hear. I don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true. This is all I know.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I know that it's true. Is
Speaker 1: why this is a major issue is because it's not
Speaker 1: just the missing in the draft and building out the
Speaker 1: foundation of a franchise that if you look around and
Speaker 1: go up and down the roster right now and you
Speaker 1: compared to other rosters, you're probably not as talented to
Speaker 1: some most teams, and and it's highlighted by the we
Speaker 1: have lost eighteen straight games. There's no core Jaguar foundation
Speaker 1: of blue chip guys you drafted very high and developed
Speaker 1: and signed again. That just doesn't exist around here, and
Speaker 1: that's that's has to change now in fairness to Urban.
Speaker 1: He just got here. Yeah, so that's not that list
Speaker 1: of people. That's not on his watch, and so you
Speaker 1: can't put that on him. He's trying to his first
Speaker 1: draft isn't exactly lighting it up either. Well, and you
Speaker 1: have well the injured E t N. You know, okay,
Speaker 1: the quarterback, to your point, is the only one out there. Really,
Speaker 1: did you have to running back in that spot? There's
Speaker 1: always a chance of running back. I could get hurt. Pete.
Speaker 1: I didn't love to pick either. We've talked about this.
Speaker 1: I don't love the pick. But the pick Lawrence number one,
Speaker 1: that was a no brainer. You could have put Tony.
Speaker 1: Your children when they were eight, could have brought that
Speaker 1: card to the table and that guy. Okay, so let's
Speaker 1: not all right? So then E t N been like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell, who is going to get more run now? Obviously,
Speaker 1: well the ball skills, the ball skills are there yet.
Speaker 1: And that was, by the way, that was a that
Speaker 1: was the book on him coming out of Georgia. I mean,
Speaker 1: Draft night, if you looked at anything any of the reports,
Speaker 1: it was, you know, finishing in ball skills. And I
Speaker 1: heard that from other coaches as well. That was the book.
Speaker 1: All right, Cisco, you skip walker little little has been
Speaker 1: hasn't been active yet, Um, Cisco, Cisco is can't can't
Speaker 1: be an out winger to Felly, he's been inactive. So
Speaker 1: two guys that you drafted with injury histories anyways, I
Speaker 1: mean they were both had major injury issues. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: what Felly defensive tackles Southern Now it hasn't been active yet.
Speaker 1: I don't think the pass rusher from Birmingham Smith Smith
Speaker 1: not by the way, he was one of the he
Speaker 1: was one of the additional picks in that Jalen Ramsey trade.
Speaker 1: They ended up okay, so Tony. So you talk about
Speaker 1: those old drafts. This draft doesn't produce as much of
Speaker 1: anything either. Yeah, But Pete, in fairness, it's early. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you say all the time, you can't make it.
Speaker 1: You can't judge the draft probably two or three years down. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not judging it. I'm just saying right now this
Speaker 1: draft is producing nothing except for Trevor Lines. Let's hear
Speaker 1: from head coach Urban Meyer today. He spoke with the
Speaker 1: media the day after press conference. The big news though,
Speaker 1: was about the trade of c J. Henderson. I think
Speaker 1: number one is the development of Tyson Campbell. He's starting
Speaker 1: to perform at what we expect him to be, a
Speaker 1: very very talented guy. You get Trey Herndon back, which
Speaker 1: you can play nicole um and we have to improve
Speaker 1: a lot of areas our team, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just see, it might be a good fresh start for
Speaker 1: c J. Had a great visit with his wily and uh,
Speaker 1: I love c J and I spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time with him and his parents, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good for both of us. So, of course,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, Henderson goes to the Carolina Panthers. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars received tight end Dan Arnold, who has been in
Speaker 1: the league for a few years now. They trade picks,
Speaker 1: the third round pick coming to the Jags, fifth round
Speaker 1: pick going to the Panthers, per reports, So you know,
Speaker 1: and obviously tight end was a little bit of an
Speaker 1: issue yesterday with Hollister with a drop and that caused
Speaker 1: the first interception for Lawrence. And there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of depth at that at least at receiving tight end
Speaker 1: these days. So we'll see if Dan Arnold step into
Speaker 1: that role. I'm sorry, but you don't give up on
Speaker 1: a top ten corner a year and three games into
Speaker 1: his career. Remember you only played eight games last year, Pete.
Speaker 1: You don't give up on him. There's has to be
Speaker 1: other things at play here has to be Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're not giving up on him because
Speaker 1: if like, there there is a much bigger story behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, because it's nonsensible that they went to his
Speaker 1: house and they went to his house and gap they
Speaker 1: admitted that the doors mostly he didn't want to be
Speaker 1: at one point you already didn't want to play. Then
Speaker 1: well that's my point. I mean, this is like, there's
Speaker 1: a bigger issue here than just like because I'll I
Speaker 1: will argue this. He's the most talented corner on this team,
Speaker 1: or he was. Here's something like, have you just said
Speaker 1: straight talent? Right, of course he is. Here's something I
Speaker 1: can't figure out. Did Urban recruit him to Florida? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: so why in the hell does he spending time with
Speaker 1: his parents? That's good, I don't know, he's a man
Speaker 1: the parents for he cares about like, I don't know
Speaker 1: it's in house, Tony Coffman all your dad, No he
Speaker 1: did not, Pete, Okay, I mean your men. You doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be talking to his parents. He's a man,
Speaker 1: he's laughing. He's a Carolina panther. Now the trade is done,
Speaker 1: and trade for You're unbelievable, Pete. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with Pete from the standpoint, not
Speaker 1: as stupid tirade about calling parents or anything. Did you
Speaker 1: give up on a top ten pick this early? Its talented,
Speaker 1: that's just added to the list. It feels like, right, tone,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just another another, another thing. That's what
Speaker 1: it is. That's what's happened. Well, I mean, and you go.
Speaker 1: I mean, and we'll get into this. You know, when
Speaker 1: you look at this, I give the d you know,
Speaker 1: looking at the game. You know in the side of
Speaker 1: the ball that C. J. Henderson used to play for
Speaker 1: this team. Um, I thought the defense played well. I
Speaker 1: I get him credit, But offensively, guys, you gotta score
Speaker 1: more than twenty points in two weeks, No doubt. We'll
Speaker 1: come back. We're gonna get into the game peat when
Speaker 1: we come back as well, and that late third quarters
Speaker 1: swing in the game too, that's where the momentum really
Speaker 1: changed and the Cardinals offense got down the field. Those
Speaker 1: are really the two big drives in that game where
Speaker 1: the defense didn't perform well. The rest of the game
Speaker 1: they did. That's all coming up second hour. We'll have
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Speaker 1: it first on ten ten X out Home of the
Speaker 1: Checks in Bille, Jaguars the trick play there and I
Speaker 1: kind of had a guy on my face, so I
Speaker 1: threw it off my back foot and I really didn't
Speaker 1: see the corner fall off on it there. Um, but
Speaker 1: I kind of saw him as the ball was coming down.
Speaker 1: So it's just not a good decision. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't really didn't really see the guy that I thought
Speaker 1: we had our tight end Jake open and um, But
Speaker 1: like I said, I was off my back foot didn't help.
Speaker 1: And then I got to just throw it away if
Speaker 1: the guy's close, and you know protect that you can't.
Speaker 1: Defense has been playing great and just give him seven
Speaker 1: points there. It just makes it tough. That's the quarterback,
Speaker 1: of course, Trevor Lawrence after his interception returned for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And yesterday's third quarter in the waiting second, so the
Speaker 1: third welcome back. It's Jaguars happy. R J P. Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco recapping a Jaguars loss in week
Speaker 1: number three, thirty one nineteen. The final score. What are
Speaker 1: you guys laughing at? Can I even get through the
Speaker 1: intro of the game? I know you know why whenever
Speaker 1: I go in one of my rants, I can tell this.
Speaker 1: Elly agrees with me. He just doesn't want to say.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about this. Let's talk about the flee flicker.
Speaker 1: Because we were we were, we were texting earlier, and Pete,
Speaker 1: you hated the call in that position. Um I, I
Speaker 1: didn't have as much of a problem with you, Pete.
Speaker 1: Pete is correct. Typically you see that flee flicker, that
Speaker 1: style play called the call it at the fifty or
Speaker 1: the minust somewhere around midfield because because the wrist reward.
Speaker 1: UM I didn't have a problem with it. Because if
Speaker 1: it's blocked up correctly, and it was not blocked correctly.
Speaker 1: DJ Chark is ten yards behind the defense and it
Speaker 1: is a it's a it's a house call. Now, I
Speaker 1: don't know what the communication was in during the week
Speaker 1: on that play or in his ear, but if I'm
Speaker 1: in the kids here in Trevor Lawrence is here, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if it's not wide open and not there, throw it
Speaker 1: in the first row of the stands, and just like,
Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter what, if it's not wide open,
Speaker 1: if you have pressure anything else in the first row,
Speaker 1: because worst case scenari it's thirt and six and our
Speaker 1: defense is playing good. Now, the defense was playing good,
Speaker 1: but they just got drove all the way down and
Speaker 1: um Arizona was starting to move the ball. But regardless,
Speaker 1: um it was a higher risk because of the field
Speaker 1: area field they did. But let's be clear, they had
Speaker 1: nine straight runs, they were pounding them, they were driving
Speaker 1: the ball, they're having success and it worked beautifully. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was a house call. It's gonna block it if
Speaker 1: you're not gonna block it throwing that stand. So just
Speaker 1: a couple of airs there, execution airs. So I put
Speaker 1: less on the on the play called by Daryl Bevel.
Speaker 1: You know, Pete didn't love the area of the field
Speaker 1: that it was done. And that's fair because Pete would
Speaker 1: Pete's right. Most coaches would not call it that backed up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and they just ran it down their throat to
Speaker 1: let drive before that. I mean, I get it. That's
Speaker 1: when you said that, Tony, and I understand that. I
Speaker 1: just would have waited to see if you get the
Speaker 1: drive going again, and then when you get closer to midfield,
Speaker 1: then you take. Then you pull it out and you
Speaker 1: do it. You're right, shark was wide open. I mean
Speaker 1: beat Buddha Baker with that double move and he was
Speaker 1: wide open. This ball handling involved though and protection issues.
Speaker 1: And look, if we run that playback, what is that Carlos?
Speaker 1: What is Carlos high doing? Even I know it's not
Speaker 1: his guy, but he could he get up? I couldn't
Speaker 1: really tell when I can he get a piece of him?
Speaker 1: Um now because he was turning. He got beat so fast,
Speaker 1: and it was just it was not executed properly up front, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. And it was you know, the whirling dervish.
Speaker 1: What what did you call that? Bird? Is what Jan
Speaker 1: Taylor called it to it's not on carloside. That's on
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and Will Richardson that's the loudes on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But again and I never saw Trevor really looking down
Speaker 1: the field. Well, he didn't have a chance because as
Speaker 1: soon as he caught it, JJ is in his face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and JJ takes those quick slant chances all the time,
Speaker 1: you know how that is. He didn't. But yeah, again,
Speaker 1: I don't mind aggressiveness from this team. I really don't.
Speaker 1: And so I understand that you gotta pull off some
Speaker 1: things to try and win. And they got one on
Speaker 1: a kickoff return for a touchdown off of a miss
Speaker 1: or miss field. Go by the way, that was a
Speaker 1: terrible decision by Kingsbury. First of all, like two things. One,
Speaker 1: it's so low percentage of you hitting it, and so
Speaker 1: what if you do it's a three point game, It's
Speaker 1: like are you kidding me? And then secondly, second is
Speaker 1: you have five offensive lineman covering against a guy who
Speaker 1: just returned a kick for a hundred and two yards
Speaker 1: the week before? What are you a bunch of fat
Speaker 1: guys chasing a little fast guy. I'm like that one
Speaker 1: right there, that was a gift a gift from Cliff Kingsbury. Well,
Speaker 1: at least they showed some speed in that play. Pete.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm getting down the next part of that.
Speaker 1: Should they get him the ball? So yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think you could. I mean, he's I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: he's only played receiver for like a year, and you
Speaker 1: can gimmick up some garb. But you know how this
Speaker 1: league is now, they gimmick up crap for guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you get on the field. But
Speaker 1: I mean he's a heck of a returner. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. He has vision and he could,
Speaker 1: he has wheels, and he can make guys miss. He's
Speaker 1: a good players on his way to All Pro right
Speaker 1: now at this space. But again again, um, they had momentum.
Speaker 1: They went down, drove the ball down, and I know
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals had scored James Robinson. They were blasting
Speaker 1: open holes for him too. Yeah, I would have I
Speaker 1: would have just pounded it until I got the midfield.
Speaker 1: That's what I would have done. And you know me, Tony,
Speaker 1: I'm a pass first guy. But when you come off
Speaker 1: a drive where you just rammed it down the throat
Speaker 1: without throwing a pass, go until they stop it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had done eight straight plays with a run. The
Speaker 1: first one of that drive was wasn't it wasn't it nine?
Speaker 1: I thought they went eight on the drive and then
Speaker 1: one more on the first player. Yeah, yeah, eight on
Speaker 1: that drive and then nine and then what was the
Speaker 1: how many what was the artist on the first run
Speaker 1: that in that series four? It was? It was second
Speaker 1: and six. Okay, so go get more and more and
Speaker 1: you're third to get four more and you got a
Speaker 1: first down. Then you get the midfield that he take
Speaker 1: that shot. The timing of the shot, the execution was bad,
Speaker 1: like you said, but the timing and the shot wasn't good.
Speaker 1: It's a good idea if you get to midfield. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's But it's a bigger issue to me, Pete, because
Speaker 1: even though we're i mean, the offense did good things
Speaker 1: in the run game was better, and James Robinson proves
Speaker 1: out what we've been saying, I mean, I've been saying
Speaker 1: justin saying I think pet like, from the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season the offense should go through James Robinson until
Speaker 1: Trevor is you know, um, it'll make it will be
Speaker 1: the best development for him, like run the offense to James,
Speaker 1: and they finally did. And I'm not sure he carries
Speaker 1: he had I still give him more um him and Carlos.
Speaker 1: That's the strength of this team right now, and so
Speaker 1: I give Darryl Bevo credit there. But even with that,
Speaker 1: they only scored thirteen points. Is an offense Like, well,
Speaker 1: they don't have any chunk plays in the passing game.
Speaker 1: They don't get chunk plays. Yeah, I mean so like
Speaker 1: like you like like you can. You can blame the
Speaker 1: pick six like my flip side that Okay, okay, call
Speaker 1: something else. Don't tell pick six well, Cliff Kingsbury, don't
Speaker 1: try to kick a sixty eight hours field goal. So
Speaker 1: just take those two scores off the board. It's still
Speaker 1: twenty or whatever. But like, okay, Lawrence has to hit
Speaker 1: Chark on the deep throw down the left sideline. He's
Speaker 1: beating his man. He missed them early in the game. Remember,
Speaker 1: But if we're a Jaguar fans out there that worry
Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence, the chart touchdown past there's only so
Speaker 1: many human beings on the planet was amazing the fact
Speaker 1: that when you throw it, I was like, where is
Speaker 1: he throwing it, and he had him earlier, but he
Speaker 1: waited too long and he missed him. But then he
Speaker 1: got and then he got him there that throw. There
Speaker 1: are only so many people on the plan who can
Speaker 1: make that throw. That's why you're incouraged about that guy.
Speaker 1: His stats aren't great. He's turning the ball over. The
Speaker 1: one interception clearly wasn't on him. It went right off
Speaker 1: his end. This throw here, look at his throw. It
Speaker 1: looks like he's covered back left corner. There's just no
Speaker 1: room at all there, and he put it right on
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, it was. I mean, I mean the
Speaker 1: story of the game is the I mean the pick six.
Speaker 1: Maybe part of it in the kick return or a
Speaker 1: field return for a touchdown part of the story, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But it's it's the constant mistakes. Take those two plays out.
Speaker 1: It's the Jacob Hosstetler, you know whatever his name, Jeff
Speaker 1: hoss Thattler playing quarterback, Jacob Hollister. I mean, all, why
Speaker 1: are you jumping run through the catch and keep going.
Speaker 1: And I think urban said it last night, that's a
Speaker 1: catch you gotta have. I mean, help your help your
Speaker 1: kid quarterback? First, do they still dump c J Henderson
Speaker 1: for Dan Arnold. I don't know, but that that minimum
Speaker 1: you lose three there, maybe seven, right, I mean, and
Speaker 1: then it flips. It changes the field of the game, right,
Speaker 1: it changes everything. And by the way, and then even
Speaker 1: in the in the other one, you're down there driving
Speaker 1: late in the game and maybe you're down two scores.
Speaker 1: It's late, it's like four or five minutes left, and
Speaker 1: James Robinson runs into Trevor's arm fumble like if you
Speaker 1: score there, guess what, You're still in it. Little mistakes,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give them credit and you got you probably.
Speaker 1: I think this is strange for me to say this
Speaker 1: after where I've been the last two weeks. I think
Speaker 1: they were better this week. They were better, and that's
Speaker 1: a good sign. That's a sign of prog rest and grow.
Speaker 1: Fans don't want to hear that. They don't want to
Speaker 1: hear that at all. They're tired of the losing. But
Speaker 1: if you're looking at this in the big picture of everything,
Speaker 1: and there are questions about the big picture, they made
Speaker 1: progress this week. They were better. They were a better
Speaker 1: football team than they were a week ago. And that's
Speaker 1: a good thing because this Arizona team is a good
Speaker 1: football team. Well, and I guess yes, I agree with you,
Speaker 1: but they are going to have to continue to get
Speaker 1: better because now they go a short week to Cincinnati. Historically,
Speaker 1: it's hard as the road team to win on Thursday
Speaker 1: night and you're playing against the Cincinnati team that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're great, but they're pretty good. And
Speaker 1: then after that, you know, now you seven straight teams
Speaker 1: that ten wins last year, Tennessee in Miami, Seattle, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: it's like San Fran. Yeah, that records insight. Let's just
Speaker 1: say that what record the longest losing streak twenty six Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that means they lose eight more to tie it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you just read through the schedule. This week is tough
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. You know that it's tough. You said it.
Speaker 1: And that Bengals team has actually got some good young
Speaker 1: players that are playing pretty good football. I just don't
Speaker 1: I don't see them losing eighth straight from here. Eleven
Speaker 1: and eleven. Well, they they'll tie the Lions this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Falcons would be the tying if they were to
Speaker 1: lose Jon in Jacksonville and it's week twelve and then
Speaker 1: they're at the Rams. The next week. Now the Falcons
Speaker 1: have some better players who might be looking to uh
Speaker 1: cancoon by then this week? No, they won this week
Speaker 1: they beat the Giants. They rally from behind to beat
Speaker 1: the Giants. Wanted to got a winnable game this week
Speaker 1: against Washington, so they could be too adu so they
Speaker 1: get that game might not be what we think it is.
Speaker 1: They look, well, here's the thing. If it's more possible
Speaker 1: than it happens in my eyes than they win three games,
Speaker 1: all they need to do is win one to not
Speaker 1: have it happen one. All they have to do Pete
Speaker 1: has win one, not turn the ball over four times,
Speaker 1: and they don't do it like that. They lose ten straight.
Speaker 1: Then they win three out of the next ten, and
Speaker 1: if they protect the football one game, they can win
Speaker 1: a football game. Right, thank you? Please answer my question
Speaker 1: and say thank you. Somebody agree with me. I agree,
Speaker 1: please somebody and Jacksonville. I don't think they're getting the record.
Speaker 1: I think they'll win a game. You just said they're
Speaker 1: getting the record. It's possible. Just exactly said that. I
Speaker 1: lean more towards them getting the record. They're not breaking
Speaker 1: the record. I'll lock it right now, lock it. Not
Speaker 1: breaking the record. That's a walk off lock for Tony.
Speaker 1: We're losing him for the next hour. Pete, It's Me
Speaker 1: and You is the highest rated portion. Ratings are growing up.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be huge. Thanks for walking in front of
Speaker 1: my camera. Ton'tly appreciate that. We We're got floating ahead.
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Speaker 1: our home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean, the score
Speaker 1: is going to dictate, you know, winds of losses or whatever.
Speaker 1: But man, I feel like as a group at the
Speaker 1: team and I feel like we, you know, we took
Speaker 1: that next step. We just gotta finish. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We're a young team, but I'm tired of
Speaker 1: hare and with a young team, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: we just gotta learn how to finish it. But we're
Speaker 1: it's coming soon. Like That's what I've been telling to
Speaker 1: tell her, right, man, we played Thursday. That probably could
Speaker 1: have been the best thing to happen to us as
Speaker 1: a team, as players, individually, as coaches, staffs, and as
Speaker 1: an organization that we played Thursday, man, because we know
Speaker 1: we should have won this game, and uh, it's over now.
Speaker 1: We can move on quicker fast there and just worry
Speaker 1: about the next one. That's Josh Allen, Jaguars defensive and
Speaker 1: and outside linebacker after the game yesterday, a Jaguars loss
Speaker 1: in week number three to follow oh and three on
Speaker 1: the season, Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a
Speaker 1: Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick, CBS Sports senior writer Pete
Speaker 1: Priscoe with us. Tony Boselli is not He's gone for
Speaker 1: the next hour. He gone, see you did we trade him?
Speaker 1: Might be next to the list feed. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what can we get for him? The
Speaker 1: Turkey sandwich roast sandwich, peanuts, something like that, you know,
Speaker 1: something like that about it. He's got new hips, so
Speaker 1: that he's got that going for him. You know what.
Speaker 1: He liked the flee flicker. I did not, But I
Speaker 1: just think that I understand the reasoning behind it. When
Speaker 1: you're a desperate team and you're not a great team,
Speaker 1: you take chances. Spark right and talked about I've got
Speaker 1: it there after the way they drove the ball on
Speaker 1: the ground before the Other argument is that because they
Speaker 1: ran the ball so well in the possession before plus
Speaker 1: one play, that's nine straight plays, that might be a
Speaker 1: time to do it. It might be go to twelve
Speaker 1: straight plays and get to the forty. You do that,
Speaker 1: or you could throw it out of bounds, or you
Speaker 1: could block J. J. Watt, the three time All Pro.
Speaker 1: How about that? If you do throw it out a bound,
Speaker 1: you're still in third and six from your own end.
Speaker 1: And but that's the play to throw it out of bound.
Speaker 1: That's what he should have done. I love by the way.
Speaker 1: I love the way he handles himself after mistakes. Trevor Lawrence, Yes,
Speaker 1: correct and he and he handles himself like a pro.
Speaker 1: At the press conference afterwards, and I have a dealt
Speaker 1: with him. But I can imagine the guys that do
Speaker 1: the local media, you know, Mark Long and the Rocco
Speaker 1: and that gang John read all of them. I bet
Speaker 1: they liked the candor. I would have. I would have
Speaker 1: loved being around a guy who who stands up for
Speaker 1: his mistakes and stands up for and says what happened
Speaker 1: and describes it in detail. Yeah, I mean it's good.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of those guys will bristle under any
Speaker 1: sort of perceived criticism of their play in a game.
Speaker 1: We've seen that here before, you know, And it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel that way with with Trevor so far. Just watching
Speaker 1: his post the post JP. You hope that being in
Speaker 1: the league for four or five years doesn't knock that
Speaker 1: out of him, right, kid, Right, he's enjoying himself. He's
Speaker 1: having fun. He's uh, you know, he talks about it
Speaker 1: when he's not supposed to win games. What will he
Speaker 1: be like when he's supposed to win game? But that
Speaker 1: remember though, the question with him was how would he
Speaker 1: be when he lost games? Because he didn't lose any
Speaker 1: regular seasons. I think he's been I think he's a
Speaker 1: pros pro He's been great so far, and now it's
Speaker 1: just a matter of putting it all together and and
Speaker 1: not turning the ball over like I said a moment ago,
Speaker 1: and and getting over the top and finishing a football game.
Speaker 1: Part of that peat is on the defensive side. And
Speaker 1: it felt like yesterday, especially in the first half. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a one touchdown drive in the first half
Speaker 1: for Arizona or Kyler Murray did the naked bootleg around
Speaker 1: the left and got into the end zone. That was
Speaker 1: a seven play drive. But beyond that in the first half,
Speaker 1: when the Jaguars had forced two three and ounce to
Speaker 1: other punts and that was it. I mean, they were,
Speaker 1: they were really in control in the first half. It
Speaker 1: did slip away though, at the end of that third
Speaker 1: quarter with those touchdown drives, the Jack's got up nineteen ten,
Speaker 1: and then the Cardinals, up playoff caliber team, go right
Speaker 1: down the field in two minutes, twelve seconds, five plays,
Speaker 1: boom touchdown to get within two. Then the flee flicker
Speaker 1: play happened two plays later, so in a span of
Speaker 1: seven scrimmage snaps, the Jaguars nine point lead was a
Speaker 1: five point deficit all of a sudden, Well, what do
Speaker 1: the Cardinals do. They get a three and out on
Speaker 1: defense and then drive ten plays and sitting nearly seven
Speaker 1: minutes and kill the game with a touchdown. And that's
Speaker 1: what good teams do. They put other teams away like
Speaker 1: the Jags. Yeah, and and I thought the defense was better.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, Joe Colon had a good plan.
Speaker 1: They still don't rush the pastor well enough. Now it's
Speaker 1: hard to rush that guy. It's hard to rush Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray because he gets outside the pocket. He does so
Speaker 1: many different things with his legs and and keeps his
Speaker 1: head up and makes place. So I understand that. But
Speaker 1: they've gotta be better rush in the past. That that's
Speaker 1: you know, one of the top priorities. But I think
Speaker 1: all in all, they were okay on defense. It wasn't awful.
Speaker 1: I mean again, we go back to the one long
Speaker 1: past to a J. Green Campbell. There you gotta make
Speaker 1: the play on the ball. Yeah, it was up in
Speaker 1: the air forever. It felt like it wasn't dart down
Speaker 1: the field. I mean it was a duck make a
Speaker 1: play on the ball. But he's there, so like when
Speaker 1: you look at that place, Okay, he covered him. He
Speaker 1: just didn't make a play in the ball, So it's
Speaker 1: kind of like a plus and a minus. It's better
Speaker 1: than having a guy wide open twenty yards behind you,
Speaker 1: ten yards behind you. So um, there are there were
Speaker 1: some good things. I thought Wilson played pretty solid at
Speaker 1: linebacker tackle for lost back there at one point I
Speaker 1: remember that, Yeah, he was okay. Uh. You know, people
Speaker 1: have been critical of wingered. He played well, an interception
Speaker 1: in the end zone, brought it back out and not
Speaker 1: just in a lot of areas I thought. I thought
Speaker 1: he was solid on on has the criticism been fair
Speaker 1: of him? Though? It sounds like he got a little
Speaker 1: angry with it this week by some of the stuff
Speaker 1: I read. Just one of the quotes that walking out
Speaker 1: a practice field one day, it sounded like he had
Speaker 1: I'm not listening to it, but I'm listening to it
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Okay. But aside from aust On, here
Speaker 1: is anybody else. I think it's social media. The social
Speaker 1: media world is all over him. Okay, all right, And
Speaker 1: and you know, you know me, if i'd criticized somebody,
Speaker 1: I'm also going to tell you if he's playing well,
Speaker 1: and he played well, I thought he played pretty well
Speaker 1: on on on Sunday, So I'm gonna give him credit
Speaker 1: for that. Let's see, we're going through the Let's see,
Speaker 1: we talked about Campbell, Miles, Jack had tin tackles in
Speaker 1: the game. He led the way defensively in terms of that. Yesterday, Um,
Speaker 1: how about the back end guys, the safeties beyond Wingered,
Speaker 1: how about ray Shon Jenkins and yesterday's game, he's a
Speaker 1: good way. He was Okay, he's a good player. I
Speaker 1: thought Malcolm Brown did a couple of things here and there,
Speaker 1: but Roy robertson Harris's he was out. It was I
Speaker 1: believe an ankle if I remember right last week, not
Speaker 1: having him in there showed up Hamilton's stout against run
Speaker 1: Um Chase on what's the statue, because it wasn't great
Speaker 1: Chason three combined tackles, two solos, one assist, and the
Speaker 1: rest goose eggs. And I'll check the amount of plays
Speaker 1: he played for you. He you know, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of been that this season so far, right, Pete, It's
Speaker 1: not like he's had a breakout day yet in three
Speaker 1: weeks in the regular season. One of the few first
Speaker 1: founders left on the team, you know, well here and
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Now, now you're evaluating that draft, you
Speaker 1: thought you got your one of your edge rushers at
Speaker 1: a cover corner and as of right now you have
Speaker 1: neither because the corners gone and the edge rusher is
Speaker 1: not rushing. Yeah, Chason played thirty one snaps. That's of
Speaker 1: the snaps yesterday. They were sixty seven defensive snaps in
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, I mean, he's just he He might
Speaker 1: be one of those guys were eventually it just goes
Speaker 1: on and when it does, you know, we've seen that before,
Speaker 1: Like Jack Barrett was a guy that initially wasn't a
Speaker 1: great great pass rusher and started doing it. So maybe
Speaker 1: it gets because he's got a lot of athletic ability,
Speaker 1: but and he's been better this year. It's just where
Speaker 1: he was drafted. He will be always judged on being
Speaker 1: an elite edge rusher and if he doesn't get there,
Speaker 1: he's never you know, Dot THEE Faller was the same way.
Speaker 1: He was always going to be graded on being an
Speaker 1: elite edd dreusher. Remember Dote Faller was good against the Ron.
Speaker 1: He was tough, he was physical, and he fall into
Speaker 1: whatever Saxy had. The one good year and with the
Speaker 1: Rams when everybody doubled Aaron Donald need to an advantage
Speaker 1: of it. But he's not an elite ed drusher. He's
Speaker 1: just a good football player who is a decent ad drusher.
Speaker 1: And they need Chase On to become a good football
Speaker 1: player who's a decent addresher because right now he's not
Speaker 1: a decent edge rusher. He doesn't provide him anything from there.
Speaker 1: So the you know, there were a lot of names
Speaker 1: on that injury report last week, and one of those
Speaker 1: has been traded today. And c J. Henderson, if you've
Speaker 1: just joined us for Mr the news today, C J.
Speaker 1: Henderson traded of the Carolina Panthers in exchange for a
Speaker 1: tight end who was undrafted back in seen. They swapped
Speaker 1: some draft picks in there as well, So a lot
Speaker 1: of moving parts. Yeah, Dana Arnold's coming to the Jags.
Speaker 1: The third round pick from the Panthers. The Jags give
Speaker 1: up Henderson and a fifth round pick in the trade today.
Speaker 1: That was done this afternoon. And UH, in fact, Pete
Speaker 1: by the way, some news a little bit ago. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars have placed a wide receiver Tabe on Austin on
Speaker 1: i R designated to return UH and they've signed kicker
Speaker 1: matthew Right to the practice squad and released Philip Dorset
Speaker 1: the second from the practice squad. So um, matthew Wright
Speaker 1: was at Central Florida if I remember right, Pete, he
Speaker 1: was with the Steelers for a minute, then was with
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Vipers, and the XFL was drafted by them.
Speaker 1: If you're into that and then the Steelers, I the
Speaker 1: short week might be the only thing that saves it, Pete.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, well, if this kid comes in and
Speaker 1: booms it for the next two days, then don't you
Speaker 1: think you can't make a deal. Make it look kickers
Speaker 1: are weird, it's a weird. Just make your damn kick,
Speaker 1: because that's all I ever say. If I was a
Speaker 1: coach and Mike kicker miss one, I'd be all over.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, dude, that's your old job. You
Speaker 1: stand around all day and you kick. That's all you do.
Speaker 1: That's you You get paid. And if my my mistaken
Speaker 1: lambo is making like four and a half million at
Speaker 1: least next year, well okay, make your damn kicks. And
Speaker 1: if you don't make your damn kicks, you're gone. There's
Speaker 1: a million kickers out there. If you find one, and
Speaker 1: then he gets into a rhythm, you'll have him a
Speaker 1: long time. You want to see Jason Myers, Remember Jason Myers,
Speaker 1: he finally missing it, made thirty six in a row.
Speaker 1: JPT finally missed yesterday. Yeah, okay, another one. Matt Gaye
Speaker 1: for the Rams. He bangs them through from everywhere. Well,
Speaker 1: Matt Gaye was let go by the box. And so
Speaker 1: once you get one and he gets a Lambeau was released.
Speaker 1: Was that guy too? He was exactly that guy until
Speaker 1: he's not. Now now maybe the confidence is gone. So
Speaker 1: you get rid of me. Get another one, right, and
Speaker 1: I get the fifty yarders and all that. That's long range.
Speaker 1: He's always been pretty automatic and those also. But when
Speaker 1: you start missing extra points, that's when, at least urban
Speaker 1: Meyer said it too. You start missing extra points, that's
Speaker 1: when you start gotta start bringing some other options in.
Speaker 1: And that's what they've done. Pete. Let's take a time out.
Speaker 1: We'll come back plenty more ahead. We are Baselli free
Speaker 1: until five thirty today. So what a program this is
Speaker 1: going to be for the next forty five minutes or so.
Speaker 1: He'll be back with us in a little while. Your
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Speaker 1: the golf tournament coming up? Am I older? I'm not
Speaker 1: I know who Darius Rutger is. I'm not sure I
Speaker 1: know the rest of them. I could tell your brothers
Speaker 1: Osborne is kind of country. Um, their brothers named Osbourne. Well,
Speaker 1: I figured out the musician. I've heard of a suicide boys,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who that is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who those guys are. And what's a
Speaker 1: R I don't know. I have no idea. So you're
Speaker 1: old to then j P apparently. So yeah, last week
Speaker 1: I went to to last week Pete Santana, which was fantastic,
Speaker 1: was very awesome. I had seen him once in a
Speaker 1: smaller kind of a festival setting and he was an
Speaker 1: hour and fifteen minutes and they had to get off
Speaker 1: stage and all the hits, it was all the old stuff.
Speaker 1: He played for two hours and ten minutes straight without
Speaker 1: a break. It was outstanding. I bet that was fantastic.
Speaker 1: And then Counting Crows a couple of nights later, and
Speaker 1: they were very okay, They're okay to me. Who's your like?
Speaker 1: Mid nineties? You know it was probably right in your wheelhouse, Pete,
Speaker 1: what did you lose mid nineties? You gotta go back
Speaker 1: a couple of games, dude. I mean, I'm a Earth
Speaker 1: Wind and Fire guy. I love the old I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen Journey now without Steve Perry, but the guy
Speaker 1: is very good at saying I like all that old
Speaker 1: rock stuff and Eagles, Um, how many Eagles are left?
Speaker 1: Like Don Henley and like two others? Right, everybody else
Speaker 1: has gone, right Timothy Schmidt. The guitar players still there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there they got They're still there. The Eagles is one
Speaker 1: of the best shows I've ever seen. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: seen you two, I've seen Elton John you know, but
Speaker 1: I'm not the new stuff, is I. I don't pay
Speaker 1: attention to it that much? Right, we need to get
Speaker 1: you back up here and get Baseli to get the
Speaker 1: couch one night when we get like Alice Cooper is
Speaker 1: coming in a few weeks, let's all go to Alice Cooper.
Speaker 1: Alice Cooper, Yeah, why not? Like schools out for Yeah? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: he's Freeley is Loopening playing with him from Kiss coming on?
Speaker 1: That's not one of my That's not my cup of
Speaker 1: tea either. That's you said, It's that's right. At the
Speaker 1: same time, are you talking about get me some earth
Speaker 1: Wind and Fire in the Gang? Okay, okay, you're that
Speaker 1: that's more of your scene, not the the hard rock. No, Okay,
Speaker 1: eighteen in a row, Pete. It is so painful to
Speaker 1: think about that. And Urban is gonna get a lot
Speaker 1: of the national heat for especially this week and a
Speaker 1: Thursday night game coming up. Right, it's not his fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, they he inherited three the last three are,
Speaker 1: but not the first fifteen before that. Um, it's just
Speaker 1: it's got a break at some point, right if they,
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, if they just hold onto the ball.
Speaker 1: They're doing some other things. Okay, they're playing pretty good
Speaker 1: defense right now, they've got to take away Finally the
Speaker 1: other day, if they can hang onto the ball in
Speaker 1: the red zone, maybe they scored some points, hit a
Speaker 1: field goal or two, you win a tight ball game,
Speaker 1: and then that might change the whole mindset of everybody
Speaker 1: in the building here. But but okay, the Texans were
Speaker 1: awful on last Thursday. And yeah, I mean, and I
Speaker 1: know they didn't have and it was week one, though, Pete, like,
Speaker 1: you know how week one. I mean, let's look, if
Speaker 1: you want to look at it realistically, they showed improvement
Speaker 1: this past week. They were better Jimmy Johnson fifteen his
Speaker 1: first year with the Cowboys. So it's it's a process.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take time, but you can't be trading away
Speaker 1: the first round corner after So what did he end
Speaker 1: up playing eleven games? There wasn't even his ten games
Speaker 1: and they didn't play yesterday, so it's ten games. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you exactly here. It just doesn't look and there.
Speaker 1: You know, Look, maybe the kid doesn't love it, or
Speaker 1: they had an issue with him, or he they wanted
Speaker 1: him more committed, or he didn't like them, or whatever.
Speaker 1: The reason they played ten games. Ten starts ten games.
Speaker 1: You don't trade. You don't trade a first round top
Speaker 1: ten corner after ten games. You try and work it
Speaker 1: out with him the rest of the year at least.
Speaker 1: And then it's not like somebody wound you and said, Okay,
Speaker 1: Carolina desperate for a corner because they lost. J. C.
Speaker 1: Gord calls you and says, we'll give you our first
Speaker 1: round pick or our second round pick and a later pick.
Speaker 1: They got a tight end that is expendable because Tommy Tremble,
Speaker 1: a rookie tight end, is actually playing well, and a
Speaker 1: third round pick for a fifth round pick. I just
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't like it. I didn't I don't like
Speaker 1: I don't like to trade at all. And and by
Speaker 1: the way, if they trade for Ian Thomas from Carolina.
Speaker 1: Then that means they'll have gone Chris Man, Hurts, Ian Thomas,
Speaker 1: and Dan Arnold all panther tight end. So maybe they
Speaker 1: ought to make that deal just to complete the room again. Huh.
Speaker 1: By the way, Chris Man Hurts asn't blocked as well
Speaker 1: as his reputation since he's been in Jacksonville. Well, that's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a yeah, a little bit of
Speaker 1: a thing. We'll get into that when we come back.
Speaker 1: I saw your tweet on that earlier. Today's second hour
Speaker 1: of the program coming up, we'll go around the National
Speaker 1: Football League as well. Tony Vaselli do back at five thirty.
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Speaker 1: ten ten x L. The Bengals are playing very well
Speaker 1: in a big, huge win. Um, they're playing at a
Speaker 1: high level. You know, we through three quarters or you know,
Speaker 1: the first game, nothing, second game, we made it through
Speaker 1: a half that we're playing pretty well. Third game we're getting.
Speaker 1: So we're just you know, I'm looking for custom improvement.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for loyalty and faith in the locker room,
Speaker 1: which I have, um that's never waivered. Um. And you know,
Speaker 1: you know I'm not taking anyway from Cardinals. We played
Speaker 1: growing up and they don't make some mistakes. Could could
Speaker 1: have won that game. There's that coach Urban Meyer today
Speaker 1: in the post mortem of a Jaguars loss in week three,
Speaker 1: third one, nineteen the final. It's our number two of
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Speaker 1: alongside CBS Sports senior writer joining us from South Florida.
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is out until five thirty ish. We'll see
Speaker 1: if he's slides back in earlier not. We'll get to
Speaker 1: your We'll go around the league here in the next
Speaker 1: segment coming up in just a little bit and recap
Speaker 1: some games. Here's some calls from around the league yesterday.
Speaker 1: And then when Tony returns, we'll get your social media
Speaker 1: questions and um, you know, keeping it Real by Woodbridge
Speaker 1: by Robert Mondabie. That's all coming up in this hour
Speaker 1: of the program today, Pete, So you have it Cincinnati
Speaker 1: p quick question for you, A quick not a quick question,
Speaker 1: but a quick note was that Myers three losses now,
Speaker 1: and the last time he had three losses in the
Speaker 1: season was when he was eight and five for the
Speaker 1: Gators in two thousand and ten. I think it's right.
Speaker 1: They lost three in a row that year in Florida. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he walked away after that season, he did. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying he's an walk away. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that that was that year. But it's been a
Speaker 1: long time since he's had to deal with any type
Speaker 1: of losing. Um, Yeah, you're right, and that was that's
Speaker 1: the last doesn't strike me as a good loser, not
Speaker 1: that anybody's ever should be a good loser, because I mean,
Speaker 1: but why would you be? Yeah, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: that like this right now should should not be. It's
Speaker 1: not fun. It's not good what's happening right now, and
Speaker 1: everybody should be salty about it and try to go
Speaker 1: out and get better and move past it. He Uh.
Speaker 1: If I'm a mistake and I was watching the game
Speaker 1: and I haven't watched the TV play, I watched the
Speaker 1: tape today, but I watched when I was watching the
Speaker 1: game in our studio yesterday in our green room when
Speaker 1: the interception when the pixis happened. Is that not him
Speaker 1: on the sideline throwing his hands up if you can,
Speaker 1: if you run the end zone shot of the pick
Speaker 1: six to go check it out. I think you could
Speaker 1: see urban Meyer going his hand. I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 1: by that, right, I mean, he has emotions just like
Speaker 1: everybody else, Pete. He's not a robot. And so I
Speaker 1: heard today on the I don't know, I was listening
Speaker 1: to some stuff from up there that he was. He
Speaker 1: could have vetoed the call, but he didn't. That's right,
Speaker 1: he said he after the game, at least in the
Speaker 1: prost game press conference, he said he kind of heard
Speaker 1: it come over the headset and didn't didn't say no,
Speaker 1: so they went for it. But hey, I mean, if
Speaker 1: they block it up, as we said earlier in the
Speaker 1: first hour, Pete, if they block the three time All
Speaker 1: Pro J J. Watt, who's stunning inside, then it's a
Speaker 1: long play touchdown. In an ideal world, this is not
Speaker 1: the offense urban Meyer's running. It had a little which
Speaker 1: is more, it had a little more yesterday than in
Speaker 1: the first series, and I had to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: We talked about that last week. He had to run
Speaker 1: a little more. He did all that. Yeah, and there
Speaker 1: was actually a play at one point. I can't remember
Speaker 1: where it was where had Trevor pulled that, he would
Speaker 1: have run for a touchdown easily. Um. But I just
Speaker 1: think I don't know. The higher of Bevil is a
Speaker 1: weird one because his scheme and his scheme don't really mesh.
Speaker 1: So getting to the root of that is finding out
Speaker 1: where where did that come from? And he recommended him
Speaker 1: and he got Schottenheimer in there too in that mix.
Speaker 1: Don't forget about Well, they might have had paths cross
Speaker 1: at one point. Bevil did coached the Big Tent at
Speaker 1: one point, so maybe there's somebody there. He was at Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: wasn't he He might have some he played it was
Speaker 1: Wisconsin back on the old days. But yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he coached there. But I don't know. There's this
Speaker 1: because usually these coaches higher guys that are recommended to
Speaker 1: him where they've met him across paths at some point,
Speaker 1: like like we talked about George George Warhop and him
Speaker 1: in their days at in college Cincinnati. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I just think. And one thing about George Warhop we've
Speaker 1: had we've been critical of him at times. Lines playing okay,
Speaker 1: not awful and not great, but okay. I thought Cam
Speaker 1: was good yesterday. Um he did you know that's a
Speaker 1: good pass Ruster. He's playing against the Chandler Josie did
Speaker 1: a good job on him. Uh A. J has had
Speaker 1: his moments where he hasn't been as good this year.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think Linder struggled a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, and how in past protection he's had problems
Speaker 1: were guys. They had problems with some stunts yesterday. That
Speaker 1: that that I'll say. And j J Walk can be
Speaker 1: a pain because he shoots gaps and he doesn't do
Speaker 1: things in conventional way. And he had some where he
Speaker 1: came out like he you know, there was a play.
Speaker 1: For the most part he did. Cam Ram has a
Speaker 1: pretty good job. And Chandeler Joes remember Chandler Jones knifed
Speaker 1: around him one time at a run play and tackled
Speaker 1: the tackled the yea. Um, but I thought I think
Speaker 1: the line could be a couple. You know, it takes
Speaker 1: a while and it's this isn't just something that's going
Speaker 1: on with the Jaguars offensive line play struggling because it
Speaker 1: struggled across the board in this league, because it takes
Speaker 1: time for these guys to kind of grow get grow together,
Speaker 1: and they don't get the work they need in camp
Speaker 1: with pads and everything. So it's gonna the line play
Speaker 1: in the NFL is bad right now. Yeah, gameplay is
Speaker 1: about the only time you get a lot of pad
Speaker 1: work in really, But I didn't think they were awful.
Speaker 1: I just think hasn't been as good and that would
Speaker 1: be concerning to me. And past protection Cam Cam was
Speaker 1: terrible in the first game. He's okay, not great in
Speaker 1: the last two. And I love a j but he's
Speaker 1: got to pick his playoff and and yeah, I just
Speaker 1: and Drewan Taylor was a little better yesterday. The running
Speaker 1: game overall, they got James Robinson involved a bit more
Speaker 1: fifteen carries yards that's a five point nine average. You
Speaker 1: had a twenty one yard or in there. He also
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown. He caught the ball six times in
Speaker 1: the passing game on six targets yesterday for forty six yards.
Speaker 1: So this Jaguars running game, there were moments though, where
Speaker 1: hide would come in and when hides in their pete.
Speaker 1: That sounds like on social media the fans are all over,
Speaker 1: why are you playing hide over Robinson? All this stuff.
Speaker 1: He's still getting five and a half a pop, Carlos. Hide.
Speaker 1: You don't mean James Robinson to carry the load like
Speaker 1: he did last year. That's why you got hide. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have. I wouldn't have Hide getting more than five,
Speaker 1: four or five carries. That's it though, And I'd probably
Speaker 1: still give James Robinson more carries. I think yesterday, once
Speaker 1: he got going, you could see him get into a rhythm.
Speaker 1: He's he's a quicker back that he was last year.
Speaker 1: You can see that. He said he's worked on that
Speaker 1: pete and you know, I don't know exactly how you
Speaker 1: know what he's done for that, but he made that
Speaker 1: a priority in this offseason too. Maybe not the full
Speaker 1: top end speed, he might not always have that, but
Speaker 1: a little quickness, a little shiftingness. And we were talking
Speaker 1: to him. I had an event with him last week
Speaker 1: at virtual event, and we were talking about his ability
Speaker 1: to avoid maybe not full contact, right, he just a
Speaker 1: little shift he gets, uh, you know, little in a
Speaker 1: crease and doesn't take a direct hit often and that's
Speaker 1: that's you. And he exploded out of his runs a
Speaker 1: little bit yesterday. You know, I like what I saw
Speaker 1: from him, I really do. And you know, sixteen carries
Speaker 1: in the first two games was not enough. It just wasn't.
Speaker 1: And so I think that's something they got to lean
Speaker 1: on more and more. I was just thinking about that
Speaker 1: yesterday when I was watching the game. How if I
Speaker 1: would and I know the locker rooms not open after games, right,
Speaker 1: it's not, but if it were, I was just thinking
Speaker 1: about how I would have gone in there back in
Speaker 1: the day and got over to James Robinson and said, hey, James,
Speaker 1: you know you get the carries and you put put
Speaker 1: up the numbers. And he would have probably said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to get more carries, or yeah, give me
Speaker 1: those carries and numbers, and I would have had my story.
Speaker 1: Here's the headline right there. Robinson says he wants to
Speaker 1: touch there. It's like one day with Fred Taylor. I said, Fred,
Speaker 1: you think I think you can get to two thousands,
Speaker 1: You can get to two thousand friends, So I think
Speaker 1: I get to two thousand this year. I had line
Speaker 1: Fred Tylers, I mean it's yeah, I just so the
Speaker 1: locker room isn't open at all JP after the game,
Speaker 1: so not for anybody. Just I think it's just a team,
Speaker 1: not that I'm going there. Yeah, I think that's it's
Speaker 1: very limited, and I know I'm not in that group.
Speaker 1: I'd have a hard time covering a team this year
Speaker 1: if I was the beat guy, and I know that,
Speaker 1: I know, I know the guys up there, you know
Speaker 1: the Rock and Mark Long and and those guys. It's
Speaker 1: would be hard because you can't and this is a
Speaker 1: young team, so you don't have like veterans you can
Speaker 1: lean and you can't develop relationships. And that was the
Speaker 1: whole thing of covering the team is developing relationships. Like
Speaker 1: I can only imagine in if the locker room were open,
Speaker 1: the stories that would be coming out of that locker room,
Speaker 1: because speaking from firsthand experience, when I covered Kauughlin in
Speaker 1: the early years, the players had stories for me every
Speaker 1: single day, and so there would be stories about Urban
Speaker 1: every single day because they're like Coughlin feeling his way
Speaker 1: around the NFL and finding out that these are grown
Speaker 1: men and he's got to learn that and it totally
Speaker 1: learns that until he learns that it's going to be
Speaker 1: a disconnect with his players, and they can tell all
Speaker 1: they want about Rah Rah Ross just boom bag, win
Speaker 1: one for the varsity sweatshirt or whatever. That doesn't play
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And so I think until he and
Speaker 1: he will learn it because he's a smart man, he's
Speaker 1: a smart football coach. So he'll learn it. He'll figure
Speaker 1: it out. I just know he'll figure it out. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't have any doubt that he'll figure it
Speaker 1: out because he's won too many football games not to
Speaker 1: figure out how to win games. The stuff that you
Speaker 1: prioritize in college isn't what you prioritize in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And when he figures that out, and it might be
Speaker 1: this week, it might be five weeks from now, it
Speaker 1: might be after the season's over, he'll become a good
Speaker 1: NFL coach. But you know, playing for the coach, no,
Speaker 1: that's not in the NFL. You respect the coach, you
Speaker 1: try and let him guide you in the right direction,
Speaker 1: but you're not playing for the coach. We know what
Speaker 1: they're playing for than any coach who pretends that that's
Speaker 1: not what they're playing for is misguided. You want your
Speaker 1: players to respect you, and you have to respect them,
Speaker 1: But you're as man the man, not man to college
Speaker 1: seventeen year old, And that I think is where the
Speaker 1: disconnect is right now with Urban. But it's all it's
Speaker 1: always ever known, So you and he's a smart man
Speaker 1: and a smart coach. He'll figure it out. It's just
Speaker 1: a matter of fans in Jacksonville don't want to sit
Speaker 1: here and watch him figure it out. Like for example,
Speaker 1: this c. J. Henderson thing has just reeks of it,
Speaker 1: like he didn't want to do what he didn't want
Speaker 1: like it just to me And this is me guessing
Speaker 1: and some of the things I've he c J. Henderson
Speaker 1: didn't want to do what Urban wanted him to do.
Speaker 1: And I get it, you're the coach. But there might
Speaker 1: have been a way, Like there was an incident where
Speaker 1: he rode the bike. I heard where he was riding
Speaker 1: the bike doing to practice and c. J. Henderson felt
Speaker 1: embarrassed by it or at one point and I just
Speaker 1: heard that through the grape fine and and so when
Speaker 1: that stuff happens. Coughlin used to embarrass players all the time,
Speaker 1: all the time times five hundred what Urban has done.
Speaker 1: But eventually he weeded out the guys. And so maybe
Speaker 1: this is just the start of the weed out process.
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't weed out a first round pick ten
Speaker 1: games into his career. I try and figure it out.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if he doesn't love football, there's
Speaker 1: no fixing him. And you do hear stuff that maybe
Speaker 1: he doesn't love the game and you can't fix him.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, then they got a tight end
Speaker 1: in a third round pick for him. Okay, And I
Speaker 1: think at a journeyman tight end in the third round
Speaker 1: pick for a guy who's drafted the top ten after
Speaker 1: ten games, but not a good trade. The point is, Okay,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't love it and you know it and
Speaker 1: they know it, then maybe, ok he play any worse
Speaker 1: than the guys who do love it on that field
Speaker 1: since he's been when he was on the field last
Speaker 1: this year twice here, here's what you noticed about C. J. Henderson,
Speaker 1: And I go back to a preseason game when he
Speaker 1: didn't play for a while and they came back and
Speaker 1: he made a really nice play in the preseason in
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. He batted the ballway. There
Speaker 1: wasn't a bit of emotion one bit. Now somebody tweeted
Speaker 1: at me and you, I think on here and said
Speaker 1: that Shaquille Griffin and and I think it was ray
Speaker 1: Seon Jenkins talk today and sounded like they didn't really
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you say of a guy, because I've
Speaker 1: been around guys get cut. Oh I remember when I
Speaker 1: j Rising got cut and he never left the locker room.
Speaker 1: They sat around them and before you so guys respect players,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll defend them. And and I don't know this,
Speaker 1: I'm just putting this out there with somebody said on
Speaker 1: the tweet that maybe they weren't so broken up by
Speaker 1: the fact that he's not there. Just listen. And I
Speaker 1: didn't catch all that live. I went back and listened
Speaker 1: to summar rati On Jenkins comments on it, and you
Speaker 1: know that the question was more about it seemed to
Speaker 1: me at least, you know, the communication was their distance?
Speaker 1: Was there something like that? And and how do you
Speaker 1: deal how do you get a player involved in your group?
Speaker 1: And he said, well, we're happy with the group we have.
Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes there's different ways to communicate with
Speaker 1: different said he was They said different, he was different.
Speaker 1: That was part of That's where I was going. So
Speaker 1: it was part of that sometimes you have a different
Speaker 1: way to communicate with somebody who might hear it differently.
Speaker 1: That's kind of how I perceived the quote from Rateon Jenkins.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was calling, Oh, this guy's a
Speaker 1: different good amount of here. I didn't see it like that.
Speaker 1: But that's the quote between That's the headline, right, That's
Speaker 1: going to be the headline that's out there because of
Speaker 1: that little no. You could read between the lines when
Speaker 1: a guy's talking to you and figure it out. Ragion
Speaker 1: Jakins is a self made player who got himself a
Speaker 1: fact contract by working hard. He is a captain to
Speaker 1: that team. And if you have a corner who has
Speaker 1: top tenability and he's letting it rot because he's not
Speaker 1: in love with the game or putting in the time
Speaker 1: and the right work to do it, then you don't
Speaker 1: have you don't want to deal with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've been around people, you work with people that they
Speaker 1: skate by and you're like, what are you doing? You
Speaker 1: know they want it now, they want all the trappings
Speaker 1: of it, but they don't work at it. That That's
Speaker 1: that to me is one of the most frustrating things
Speaker 1: in life. Go do you do? You? And if you're
Speaker 1: Rachel Jakos, and he did what he did, and he
Speaker 1: made himself into a big money player by working his
Speaker 1: butt off, and he's respected in that locker room. Of course,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be put off by the guy who doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's not a problem anymore. He's now a Carolina Panther.
Speaker 1: We are back in a moment. We'll go around the
Speaker 1: National Football League, get into some of the games yesterday.
Speaker 1: There were some really good ones around the NFL. This
Speaker 1: was one of them. By the way, there were a
Speaker 1: lot of things that happened in this game. It didn't
Speaker 1: turn out the right way, unfortunately for the Jags. We'll
Speaker 1: go around the NFL also, and about five thirty or so,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll see if Tony Wasselli returns for the stretch
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Speaker 1: of the checks in Bill Jaguars Welcome back at Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon. Glad you're along with
Speaker 1: us After a Jaguars lost in Week three, j P
Speaker 1: Shatdrick with Pete Priscoe. Tony Vasselli due back at five thirty.
Speaker 1: So the ratings, what do you what do you think
Speaker 1: the chances are he's back in five thirty? You're taking
Speaker 1: the over the under as it's gonna be after five thirty. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you might be right. We will find out about oh
Speaker 1: ten minutes or so little what what what is the
Speaker 1: better chance of happening the Jaguars not getting the streak
Speaker 1: or Basselli being here before five thirties? See, that's not
Speaker 1: even right, Pete, come on, come on, Pete, Pete. They're
Speaker 1: gonna win a game. Okay, then you think Vasselli is
Speaker 1: gonna be here before? All I'm saying is the Jaguars
Speaker 1: will win a game before they break the record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think we're there's a better chance that
Speaker 1: they win a game than Basselli gets there before. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna agreement with you on Thank you very much, thank you.
Speaker 1: Let's and I don't think they're gonna win a game,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's gonna be there before five.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Let's go around the National Football
Speaker 1: League and hit on some of the games. Yesterday the Bills,
Speaker 1: What a day for Josh Allen forty three twenty one
Speaker 1: to win over Washington. Yeah, and that Washington defense, I
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be dominant, Jack del Rio, what
Speaker 1: the hell's wrong with that defense? They have a four
Speaker 1: man rushed with sweat and young on the edges and
Speaker 1: Alan and paint on the inside. They drafted the first
Speaker 1: round linebacker is a good player, and they give stop
Speaker 1: anybody can't do anything. It's incredible, can't do and give
Speaker 1: it up thirty points in two games this year. They
Speaker 1: give up thirty twice all year's incredible three games this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns over the Bears twenty six to six.
Speaker 1: Fields might be hurt now for the Bears. And all
Speaker 1: three guys are you know, possibly starting for the Bears
Speaker 1: this week coming up? Yeah, And I heard his hand
Speaker 1: isn't that bad, so he'll probably play. But they didn't
Speaker 1: do him any favors. Jp. It was bad that poor
Speaker 1: kid was brutalized. You would think they would get him
Speaker 1: outside the pocket, move him around a little bit, us
Speaker 1: his legs. They did none of it. He stock back
Speaker 1: there and they got sacked nine times nine. He was
Speaker 1: hit a bunch more. He was brutalizing. It was terrible.
Speaker 1: The rookie quarterbacks are one and ten. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: one in ten starting nine times? That right, It sounds
Speaker 1: right to me. Oh and three for Lawrence, oh and
Speaker 1: three for Wilson and one for Mills. That's seven. Oh
Speaker 1: and one for Fields that's eight and one and two
Speaker 1: for mac Jones. So one one in ten is not good.
Speaker 1: The Ravens over the Lions nineteen seventeen. The last second
Speaker 1: field goal all from Dan Miller on the Lions radio
Speaker 1: network on the losing end, Sucker's ready, there's the snap
Speaker 1: spot out kick on the way. It is up and
Speaker 1: it is off the croft car and throw all my goodness,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Justin Tucker for sixty six hit
Speaker 1: the croft bar and it bounced through and the Ravens
Speaker 1: are celebrating on the field. The longest field goal in
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL has just beaten the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: It's a heck of a call. On the losing in
Speaker 1: by Dan Miller. There pete and sixties six, how about it? Well,
Speaker 1: a couple of things. They completed a fourth and nineteen
Speaker 1: pass in that drive and from their own end should
Speaker 1: never have happened. They at a delay of game. They
Speaker 1: shouldn't have had the kick and should have moved back
Speaker 1: five yards. Never makes it and there was a grounding.
Speaker 1: I thought that they didn't get called. I don't know
Speaker 1: what Lamar Jackson was doing on the play. He threw
Speaker 1: it out of bounds, but he was in the pocket
Speaker 1: and so they got away with one of the Ravens.
Speaker 1: It feels bad for the Lions, but I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell credit. That team plays hard and they played
Speaker 1: through all the way to the end, and you can
Speaker 1: see there they're doing things that they're not there. They
Speaker 1: have no talent, apparely any talent, and they're playing hard.
Speaker 1: I give him credit for that. Your guy, Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: four touchdown passes yesterday the Chargers over the Chiefs thirty. Okay,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lards will be a star. I have no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. I just watched some of the throws he makes,
Speaker 1: and I can understand and see it. You can see it,
Speaker 1: but did I wars could have picked Justin Herbert instead
Speaker 1: of They could have traded up with nine and the
Speaker 1: two picks and gone to get Herbert, and they didn't.
Speaker 1: We can play this game, love rafts, but but you
Speaker 1: could have could have had Russell Wilson, could have had
Speaker 1: been Roethlisberg. I know, but but they were in a
Speaker 1: position with two first round picks to go make the move.
Speaker 1: It's not often you're in that position. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: the kids special, there is there is something and Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence has a lot of the same things. You could
Speaker 1: just watch it and see it. It's like I said,
Speaker 1: the throw in the end zone yesterday that Lawrence made
Speaker 1: the chart. A few people on the planet can make that.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's the same kind of guy. A few people
Speaker 1: can do what he does and nothing phases him. That
Speaker 1: was fantastic. That was a great game. And Mahomes they
Speaker 1: turned up all over three times. You can't win that.
Speaker 1: You can't win turn it and over like that. It
Speaker 1: sounds like Andy Reid is okay as well, which is
Speaker 1: good news, thank God. Good Saints over the Patriot and
Speaker 1: Jamis had a couple of touchdown passes quickly here Pete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, that one surprised me a little bit because
Speaker 1: of everything. Sean Payton's good in that role. We're not
Speaker 1: supposed to win. People think we're done. We're on the
Speaker 1: road three straight games. Look what we did and they
Speaker 1: made mac Jones look Ordinar mac Jones that we gotta
Speaker 1: slow the hype train on mac Jones a little bit too,
Speaker 1: m The mac Jones hype train is coming to a stop.
Speaker 1: The Falcons over the Giants, boring game seventeen fourteen. So
Speaker 1: we'll move along to the Bengals and the Steelers, and
Speaker 1: the Bengals just beat the heck out of these guys
Speaker 1: and just dominated him, just dominated physically up front. And
Speaker 1: you know, Logan Wilson linebackers a really keep an eye
Speaker 1: on him this week. He's a good player. I loved
Speaker 1: him coming out. Um, he was one of my favorite
Speaker 1: guys in the draft and he's starting to develop into
Speaker 1: a real quality linebacker. That's that's an interesting team with
Speaker 1: a lot of young players. The Titans with a big
Speaker 1: win over the Colts in the Division sixteen. Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: goes for a hundred and thirteen Tannehill throws three touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: There in control of the South with back to back wins. Now, Broncos,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Broncos blank the Jets P twenty six zip.
Speaker 1: What in the world is at The Jets are the
Speaker 1: worst team in the league. Jackson might be on the
Speaker 1: longest losing streak of all, but the Jets are the
Speaker 1: worst team. They stick, They're bad, They're young, but they're bad.
Speaker 1: Onto the Raiders in overtime against the Dolphins, Brent Musburger
Speaker 1: the Great with a call on Raiders Radio of the
Speaker 1: game winner. Good snap, good hold, jack pot Baby. The
Speaker 1: Raiders become the first team in history of the NFL
Speaker 1: to win their first three games against teams that all
Speaker 1: won at least ten games a previous season. Bring on
Speaker 1: the Chargers, that's Brent Mussburger. Of course, you believe in
Speaker 1: the Raiders, Pete. I'm starting to. And let's give former
Speaker 1: Jaguar head coach Gus Bradley some credit because he's taken
Speaker 1: the defense that was a disaster a year ago and
Speaker 1: he's made it into a decent unit. Right now, they're
Speaker 1: not good yet, he's made him into a decent unit.
Speaker 1: And they were are from that last year. So we'll
Speaker 1: know more about them this week though, isn't it funny?
Speaker 1: JP Tom Brady plays at New England and everybody's raven
Speaker 1: about the biggest game of the year, the biggest game
Speaker 1: have a regular season game. It's not even one of
Speaker 1: the three best games of the weekend this weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this one. Yeah, Chargers, Chargers and UH and Raiders,
Speaker 1: Broncos and Ravens's not even in the top three. It's huge. Now,
Speaker 1: of course it could be a historic evening because Tom
Speaker 1: Brady could set the all time passing record as well
Speaker 1: in that game, So I probably will. You only need
Speaker 1: to come yards moving along now, Rams over the Bucks
Speaker 1: twenty four. What happened with the Buccaneers? They got beat up.
Speaker 1: Their defense is had too many injuries on it right now.
Speaker 1: They're not very good on the back end. And and
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. I'll play Tom Brady. It's really that simple.
Speaker 1: Likes over the Seahawks thirty to seventeen. Your guy, your
Speaker 1: quarterback up there and Kirk Cousins with three touchdown passes
Speaker 1: through for three in the game. He was phenomenal. He
Speaker 1: was phenomenal, And I gotta get because I criticized it,
Speaker 1: but he was outstanding. Stood in there, took shots, took shots,
Speaker 1: made throws. That offense is good. They didn't even have
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and Madison had a big day. Alexander Madison
Speaker 1: bad on defense. Bad two weeks in a row where
Speaker 1: they look terrible on defense, and then the game of
Speaker 1: the day, I thought Pete Packers over the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: We go to Westwood one. Ryan Radkey had the call
Speaker 1: of a third down conversion and the game winner. Three
Speaker 1: receivers right to to the left, Rogers back to pass.
Speaker 1: He looks, he throws down the middle, Adams hazard and
Speaker 1: goes down inside ten seconds left. Packers trying to get
Speaker 1: lined up. Seven seconds left. Rogers goes under center at
Speaker 1: five seconds, takes the snap. He spikes the football. Rogers
Speaker 1: the pulp of the fist. Crosby is coming out, a
Speaker 1: chance to win it. Wow, Crosby is ready. Here's the snap,
Speaker 1: ball down, the kick is on the way and it
Speaker 1: is good. Packers win facing Crosby from fifty one and
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers have stood the San Francisco forty Niners.
Speaker 1: They win it thirty What a game, what a finish.
Speaker 1: Ryan Rankey with a call on Westwood one, and I
Speaker 1: think he summed it up pretty well to get in there, Pete,
Speaker 1: what a finished. Hey, I've never heard him call a game.
Speaker 1: Is he new, guys? Pretty good, he's been at it
Speaker 1: for a little while. He does a number of different
Speaker 1: sports for them. Uh. He was actually in the Pacific
Speaker 1: Coast League when I was at the same time. And
Speaker 1: he does a bunch of Westwood One thing. Still he
Speaker 1: lives out in Reno. Still. Um, great, pretty good, pretty good,
Speaker 1: pretty good? Not bad? Um, that was a great games
Speaker 1: messed up to finish. They snapped the ball their touchdown
Speaker 1: play with twelve seconds on the play clock and they
Speaker 1: had no time outs left. There's no no reason that
Speaker 1: they had all their time. There's no reason to do that.
Speaker 1: They left too much time when the clock rogers. Unbelievable
Speaker 1: And and by the way, green Bay dominated most of
Speaker 1: that game, dominated most of the game. There you're having
Speaker 1: a look around. The National Football League coming up. Allegedly,
Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli will be back with barely moved left Tony.
Speaker 1: Now get now you're in my shot. There he is.
Speaker 1: He's he's a little late, but we will have Tony Vasselli,
Speaker 1: the pride of the Jaguars left tackle. He's back on
Speaker 1: set when we return. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on
Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network, Sports Talk for Jacksonville sports fans
Speaker 1: ten ten x hour, Home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's
Speaker 1: called a worthy bird. So he was, He's just like,
Speaker 1: the whole line is his own and we're trying to
Speaker 1: sell a run on the front side. And then I said,
Speaker 1: I can get around to the eam is scraping up
Speaker 1: the is on the backside and try to you know,
Speaker 1: give the quarterbacks importation on the back side. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: he's supposed to. Jj Watan can get behind there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know when you useoning like that. J J
Speaker 1: was the guy he doesn't really take on contact in
Speaker 1: the run game, so when he felt the run, he
Speaker 1: used to try to jump around to go to opposite
Speaker 1: diriction and derictions you're going. So that's just j J
Speaker 1: B and j J. That's Jawan Taylor. Earlier today in
Speaker 1: the aftermath of the Jaguars lost in week three, thirty
Speaker 1: one nineteen the Cardinals a winner over the Jags and
Speaker 1: welcome back. Is Jaguars Happy Hour and it's time now
Speaker 1: for Keeping it Real, presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi.
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Speaker 1: by Robert Mundavi, J P. Shadrick, Pee Prisco, Tony Vaselly.
Speaker 1: The topic today, gentlemen, how did the Jaguars offensive line
Speaker 1: play yesterday? Um? Overall, I thought they played well. I
Speaker 1: mean they ran the ball well, I thought. I mean
Speaker 1: a few too many hits. Um, I mean Trevor took
Speaker 1: some shots. But overall I thought they did a good job.
Speaker 1: I mean J wants Jowan Taylor's explanation of the h
Speaker 1: flee flicker. I get what he's saying, but if I
Speaker 1: remember correct, I don't have to go back and look again.
Speaker 1: I don't think there was a edge threat. They did
Speaker 1: have the tight end back there, and somebody has to
Speaker 1: account for JJ like it's and again it's either Will
Speaker 1: Richardson or andrein world. Someone has to count for him.
Speaker 1: I don't care, like you can do the world worldly
Speaker 1: worldly bird all you want. UM. I get what he's saying,
Speaker 1: and he's not wrong if someone can come off and
Speaker 1: take off edge pressure, if there is edge pressure, I
Speaker 1: didn't see any edge pressure. UM. Anyways, that's neither here
Speaker 1: nor there. The guy I want to call out specifically,
Speaker 1: UM is Cam Robinson. I think Cam Robinson's had a
Speaker 1: really good year so far. Like he got paid a
Speaker 1: bunch of money. Um, he was franchise, A lot of
Speaker 1: questions of what he would do, and he's playing good football.
Speaker 1: He's playing like a franchise left tackle. He played against
Speaker 1: a guy named you know, Channel Jones coming in had
Speaker 1: five sacks against the Titans. I think he had two
Speaker 1: against the Vikings. Um he had been a menace to society,
Speaker 1: I mean a menace to quarterbacks and for the most
Speaker 1: part he didn't do much. He had He had a
Speaker 1: couple of hits, but they were on they were on twists.
Speaker 1: UM on games he made. Uh, Cam had a bad
Speaker 1: run block on that led to a tackle for a loss.
Speaker 1: Here's Chandler Jones a stat line, by the way, three tackles,
Speaker 1: one tackle for the lost, three quarterback hits officially one
Speaker 1: fumble recovery. Yeah, and so the quarterback hits on the
Speaker 1: most part. One he got an edge late on Cam.
Speaker 1: The other really were two twists. And I watched three
Speaker 1: different tackles now, Cam being one of them, and Cam's
Speaker 1: the only guy who's really blocked him, and he, by
Speaker 1: the way, they didn't help him. He had one or
Speaker 1: two chips the whole game. I watched the tape, Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson's playing really good football, and if he continues to
Speaker 1: play this type of football, you got to pay him.
Speaker 1: I watched the tape today too, and I thought he
Speaker 1: I said the same thing earlier, right j P. I
Speaker 1: said he played really well. I thought he handled him.
Speaker 1: You know you mentioned the pressure Tony, the one came
Speaker 1: on his thought that was on Norwell and the well
Speaker 1: didn't yu. I thought the line as a whole was solid.
Speaker 1: I think Linder's pass protection has been a problem. We're
Speaker 1: looking at the one where a j J b him early,
Speaker 1: not just that. There were a couple of others. They
Speaker 1: seem to have problems with stunts. They they didn't pick
Speaker 1: up this, They didn't pick him. The stunts great. And
Speaker 1: I think the guy who's not who's probably to me
Speaker 1: that's standing out and not playing as well, is A J.
Speaker 1: Can Well. He's he's had a rough season. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's had a rough start where he played
Speaker 1: so well last year. He's had a rough start. But
Speaker 1: let's focus on the positive. Cam Robinson, that was my
Speaker 1: big question coming in the year, what would he what
Speaker 1: would and right now he I am rooting for him.
Speaker 1: I hope he stays healthy. Banged up his shoulder a
Speaker 1: little bit and he was able to come back in,
Speaker 1: which is great news. He plays like this for the
Speaker 1: rest of the year, he is going to get a
Speaker 1: big payday. Hey big. And if they don't pay him here,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna pay him a lot of money because he
Speaker 1: can block people. Norwell got banged up a little bit
Speaker 1: too and went out and Barts went in for a
Speaker 1: while and got pushed around. Um, the right tackle was
Speaker 1: a little bit better yesterday. I thought that he was
Speaker 1: the first right tackle's biggest issues. He said, so dang deep.
Speaker 1: He gives himself no margin for erit. He gets pushed
Speaker 1: back sometimes, like I don't understand some of the techniques
Speaker 1: things he does. But yeah, he did play better. He did.
Speaker 1: He did a good overall good job. Okay, Tony, I
Speaker 1: got a question for you as a left tackle, yes,
Speaker 1: because this was on I saw this on Twitter and
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. But I'll ask you on
Speaker 1: here since we're talking about the outfit line. If there's
Speaker 1: a slide protection where to the left and the tackle
Speaker 1: and the guard is supposed to slide to the gap,
Speaker 1: but there's no immediate threat to the tackles left because
Speaker 1: there's no edgesn't coming. Is the tackle then responsible or
Speaker 1: partly responsible for the guy coming on the inside between
Speaker 1: him and the other guard, Well you should say what
Speaker 1: I'm Yeah, you should. I mean, first of all, you
Speaker 1: don't go block air, so you should slide slow and
Speaker 1: use your body. You keep your eyes outside and use
Speaker 1: your body. Two, give that guy nowhere to go and
Speaker 1: help your guard out, no different than you'd want help
Speaker 1: from your guard. You know, made it inside because that's
Speaker 1: the way I saw it. And I was watching the
Speaker 1: tunsil last week. There was a slide that you could
Speaker 1: tell they were sliding left, but there was no threat
Speaker 1: on the outside the tunsil and the guy came inside
Speaker 1: of him, but he didn't do a thing to prevent
Speaker 1: the guy for coming. And the Mr Offensive Line on Twitter,
Speaker 1: who thinks he knows everything about the position, said, oh, no,
Speaker 1: that was on the guard because it was a slide protection.
Speaker 1: If there's no threat outside your left, what do you
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah? What are you blocking air? Why are
Speaker 1: you blocking air? Like? Hey, help your buddy out? And
Speaker 1: you know t J Lang played in the league and
Speaker 1: he said, look, I'm gonna differ with you guys here.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the way the protection is planned, but there
Speaker 1: was no threat and he's got it immediately. Team Jay's right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like somebody, if I was the offensive
Speaker 1: line coach, I'd be ripping the left act like what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Why? And then I'd ripped the left
Speaker 1: guard for getting beat. But why are you leaving the
Speaker 1: guy out hanging out to dry? Because guess what your job?
Speaker 1: Guess what your job at the end of the day
Speaker 1: is an offensive line block, block and protect the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Like this isn't about personal glory, Like go out there
Speaker 1: and block nobody. And and you know, I have to
Speaker 1: bite my tongue because I keep on almost saying a
Speaker 1: bad word about your buddy, like, well you should be
Speaker 1: a saying don't blank your buddy. Um, so I think
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and so I'm trying to I know I can always
Speaker 1: get I mean, you played the position you played at
Speaker 1: the eyes level. I know i'd get the answer from you.
Speaker 1: If there's a live protection and you're supposed to slide
Speaker 1: to the left, the line slide and the left and
Speaker 1: there's nobody there you gotta block the guy well. And
Speaker 1: the only reason I know that is because we never
Speaker 1: actually slid in Tom's offense, who's always one on one,
Speaker 1: So I'd talk to somebody else who actually got to
Speaker 1: benefit of playing the slide protection Tony. Do you ever
Speaker 1: have the whirly bird? Um, Yes, in the sense like
Speaker 1: you like it was a different whorly bird where you'd
Speaker 1: like go inside and like whirlybird around the end and
Speaker 1: come back when you could do this crack black crack
Speaker 1: block back on him the reverse. Wow. But yeah, And
Speaker 1: I don't remember if there was a threat on the edge.
Speaker 1: There was almost a positive Pete because I watched it
Speaker 1: this morning and I'm just, yeah, I get to it.
Speaker 1: I don't remember if there were. I don't think there
Speaker 1: was any threat. I don't know why. I don't know
Speaker 1: where he was worly murdering too. Again though, if you're
Speaker 1: your assignment is the whirly bird and there's a threat
Speaker 1: immediately in your face, you can't let him. You gottad
Speaker 1: just your assignment. Yes, I have the tackle whirly bird.
Speaker 1: You blocked the aid right right right like you crash
Speaker 1: and Will Richardson never touch him. He can't crash again.
Speaker 1: Norwell had the block. Yeah. First of all, he's like,
Speaker 1: you gotta block like inside out, like the threat is
Speaker 1: inside and like you know, like think like think like okay,
Speaker 1: if I were really burd and get it like a
Speaker 1: checkmark on my assignment. But J. J. Watt comes up
Speaker 1: again in the mouth. That's a demerit is that. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what I want to ask you about that, because
Speaker 1: you you play, if you have a trick play like that,
Speaker 1: how many times in a week are you practicing that?
Speaker 1: Couple day practices aren't that long? The line has to
Speaker 1: like for that exact reason, the line has to work
Speaker 1: on in a couple of different ways. Well, you should
Speaker 1: talk about it. First of all, it's not that hard,
Speaker 1: like you should be going over the meeting. Here's the look,
Speaker 1: this is where we're gonna get. It's what we expect.
Speaker 1: But if you don't, you know, I gotta protect you,
Speaker 1: gotta protect the guy inside guy. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: you gotta talk through it more than anything. So it's
Speaker 1: not like a hard it's not like a hard play
Speaker 1: to execute. So how many times do you actually practice
Speaker 1: it on the field? Couple actually answer the question, Pete,
Speaker 1: I said a couple, a couple to a couple of three. Well,
Speaker 1: a couple is literally two, a single is one, couple
Speaker 1: is too few is three. Several were saying it's only two,
Speaker 1: So thank you. You finally said something right, Tony twice whatever,
Speaker 1: just shut up unbelievable social questions. We're gonna do that
Speaker 1: since I screwed up the timing of the show when
Speaker 1: we come back. Yeah, I wouldn't got a quick nine.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't play put. But it was a pot pot
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour coming down the home stretch on a
Speaker 1: Monday afternoon. J P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli has
Speaker 1: chosen to join us again. Let's get to social media
Speaker 1: questions as we wrap up the show. Today and move
Speaker 1: on to Cincinnati. In question number one in the mail
Speaker 1: bag today at m more thirteen underscore oh two Agree
Speaker 1: or disagree? Joe Cohen is getting as much out of
Speaker 1: this collection of defensive talent as possible. Pete, Well, yes,
Speaker 1: Sunday he did. Um. They still gotta rush the past
Speaker 1: better somehow, some way. You gotta figure that out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I disagree with you, Pete. I think, you know, take
Speaker 1: away the first game. I don't think they're good. In Houston.
Speaker 1: They weren't organized. It didn't seem like I'm the same,
Speaker 1: the whole team wasn't. Yeah, So I mean like that
Speaker 1: was the fourth preseason game. I think in Denver they
Speaker 1: gave up twenty three points. They played good a little
Speaker 1: ben don't break. I mean, kept good red zone defense,
Speaker 1: force field goals. They have twenty four points against with
Speaker 1: the most high powered offenses in the NFL. Great on
Speaker 1: third down. I think Joe Cohen the last two weeks
Speaker 1: and his staff and this team have done a great job. Yes,
Speaker 1: they don't have a great pass rushort. They don't. I
Speaker 1: mean I think Josh Allen, if he had a little
Speaker 1: bit of help with someone else, maybe he could develop,
Speaker 1: you know, have a better chance. I mean he had
Speaker 1: some nice rushes. I think he got held. You should
Speaker 1: have been a safety on the first one when he
Speaker 1: beat uh d J. Humphries inside he got about tackled,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how the official missed it. Um
Speaker 1: So I think Joe Cohen, I give him an A
Speaker 1: the last two weeks on defense and what he's what
Speaker 1: they're doing, and how they're stolen teams down all right,
Speaker 1: while you give it out grades, why don't give a
Speaker 1: grade to the offensive staff. I gotta give it, uh Ce,
Speaker 1: I gotta give a C minus D plus, because when
Speaker 1: you score twenty point in two games in today's NFL,
Speaker 1: that's not very good. How about special teams, I give
Speaker 1: it as I give an F for our kicker, I
Speaker 1: give an A for our return team, and I give
Speaker 1: an auter. When you were gone, they announced that they
Speaker 1: signed the kicker to the practice squad. Yeah, I figured Obeau.
Speaker 1: I think I think they try to get through Thursday
Speaker 1: night and then make a call comes. If it comes
Speaker 1: in the next two days and bangs the ball around,
Speaker 1: I get rid of him now I would too, probably,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying but that's I mean, the problem is
Speaker 1: a practice squad. It's just such a short week, so
Speaker 1: you can look at them though. That's all you can
Speaker 1: look at them. Yeah, I look at them all week,
Speaker 1: and then my guess is I probably make the change
Speaker 1: after Thursday night and just say time to make a change.
Speaker 1: Or if you know, something happens on the practice field,
Speaker 1: Lambeau keeps missing him on the progress or something. How
Speaker 1: often you out in the practiciel now unless you gonna
Speaker 1: have like special kicking practices and they're out actually on
Speaker 1: the practice field right now. I believe that they're indoors tonight,
Speaker 1: but they're working at m Lambo makes a pretty penny,
Speaker 1: like north of four, it's health's a pretty penny to
Speaker 1: be Yankee balls all over the place here. I mean,
Speaker 1: only team the NFL not to make a field goal
Speaker 1: this year, and I gotta believe we're probably leading a
Speaker 1: missed extra points by this time. Would not that I
Speaker 1: have no patience for kickers, because I think there's a
Speaker 1: million of them out there once they get into a groove,
Speaker 1: and we've seen that play out Jason Myers first and foremost.
Speaker 1: Matt Gay I mentioned it earlier. So if my guy
Speaker 1: misses a couple and two consecutive games got by kickers
Speaker 1: and running backs not high on Pete's priorities. Let's move along.
Speaker 1: Get pass rushers in cornerback, just don't trade them away
Speaker 1: after ten games. Thank you, Pete. Let's move along. Question
Speaker 1: number two that's sick with at what trade of free
Speaker 1: agent signing can this team make this year and the
Speaker 1: off scenes to help Lawrence or we have to wait
Speaker 1: three years while they try to draft and develop because
Speaker 1: his weapons stink. That's aggressive. Well, I mean, I'll say
Speaker 1: this offensively. You gotta address I hesitate to do this
Speaker 1: because it's not But also let me say it this way.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying and it's not fair to eat
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he was a bad pair. I
Speaker 1: don't want to have that discussion. He's hurt. But I
Speaker 1: watched the tape and he didn't do much against us
Speaker 1: except for one punt return. But Rondel Moore, the number
Speaker 1: four for the Arizona Um the first two weeks and
Speaker 1: especially against the Vikings, is like I'm watching him on
Speaker 1: the field, like, holy cow, who is this? I had
Speaker 1: to go look up one. I just started watching the
Speaker 1: tape of No Roster. I watched four I'm like, who's
Speaker 1: this little here's this guy? He's like five seven, Like
Speaker 1: you need the pizza. Need to get speed on and
Speaker 1: it's not just straight line speed. You have to get
Speaker 1: make you miss speed on the field. That's first thing.
Speaker 1: The second thing, you have to get a tight end.
Speaker 1: A you need to get someone who can control the
Speaker 1: huh okay, you need to get a tight end that's dynamic,
Speaker 1: and you know, stretch the field and play the challenge
Speaker 1: the middle of how many are there, Tony? How many
Speaker 1: are where are the dynamic tight ends? Travis Kelsey, Gronk,
Speaker 1: O J. Howard Kiddle, Oh Jay Howard play you're telling me?
Speaker 1: Oh J Howard? Is I walt? Somebody catches yesterday? Finally
Speaker 1: back on the field. It's been a while. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that's the type by Waller Kittle. They're all later
Speaker 1: round picks, though, Janu Smith, Henry uh Hunter, Henry like keeping.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's how many first round pictures. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about picks? How about this? T J. Hawkinson? How
Speaker 1: about t J. Hawkinson? Yeah, there's one they need Henry Ruggs,
Speaker 1: t J. Hawkinson. I'll take t J. Hackets. I've watched
Speaker 1: him a couple of games now and he's that kid
Speaker 1: can play, So it's not no if I mean go
Speaker 1: get like you know, if you need somebody. I agree
Speaker 1: they need speed more than Okay, how about this Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews from Baltimore. You take him right now? Yeah? Speed speed?
Speaker 1: What was the first thing I said? Right? You would
Speaker 1: agree those speed is first speed and then the tight end.
Speaker 1: But you can't do that now. It's offseason issue. I
Speaker 1: know nothing that there's no help coming this year. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. Question number three on social media today
Speaker 1: at duval forty three. The blatant disregard for Trevor's growth
Speaker 1: astounds me. Calling flee flickers when you're leading in your
Speaker 1: own territory has to be the doubest call I've seen
Speaker 1: in years. They were running the ball at will. The
Speaker 1: game was over after that. Thoughts on play calling question Mark.
Speaker 1: The game was not over after that. There was still
Speaker 1: a one possession game, correct, but the momentum was come
Speaker 1: on Beta. They went three and out after that. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not my problem. That is our problem. Yes, it was,
Speaker 1: in fact our problem. The problem was they went three
Speaker 1: and out and that was our problem. I know, But
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you have to go three and out
Speaker 1: after a bad play, like teams all the time recover
Speaker 1: from a bad play. Here's what happened in the next
Speaker 1: drive for the Jaguars. By the way, hide up the
Speaker 1: middle four yards, Lawrence passing complete short left. Lawrence passed
Speaker 1: short middle to Jones for ten yards. Penalty offensive p
Speaker 1: I third and sixteen, Lawrence scrambles for ten punt. Team.
Speaker 1: I thought that offensive p I was like the one
Speaker 1: that was called on Arizona, was obvious. I mean Williams
Speaker 1: the tight and like leaned into him. But if you
Speaker 1: watched the p I offensive pass inference on the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: they're just running crossing routes. The dB ran into the
Speaker 1: our tight end. Uh uh, what's his name? Man hurts
Speaker 1: Man Hurts Chris Manners. I did not like that was
Speaker 1: a call PETE you see all the time, not called.
Speaker 1: If you're just crossing and run into each other, that's
Speaker 1: not a penalty Tony one thing you mentioned man hurts
Speaker 1: Um not blocking as well as expected. No, but you
Speaker 1: didn't answer my question at the cross Why is that? No?
Speaker 1: I I agree that was not a past in affairs
Speaker 1: an officials didn't screw up the goal. I was right.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to go three. Now playing as well,
Speaker 1: we have to ask him he's not blocking as well
Speaker 1: he's been. He was brought in to be a maler
Speaker 1: in the run game. Let's go back the other side.
Speaker 1: More questions. I don't want to talk about. Let's get
Speaker 1: more questions and the other side and the other time
Speaker 1: be quiet. I want to hear another fan question. Then
Speaker 1: we got to hear. Yeah, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: So you're JPS Monday night read. I don't want you
Speaker 1: interrupting him again. Get it last. Let's get one more question.
Speaker 1: And then at Noman Muhammad twelve, Why would we trade C. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson for a guy who could have brought in during
Speaker 1: the off season? Well, yeah, Urban Meyers at that today,
Speaker 1: they were looking at it in free agency. Well then
Speaker 1: if you want it, Yeah, he was with Carolina they
Speaker 1: but why trade him for anything when you get ten
Speaker 1: games in? Yeah, it's it's really quick to give up
Speaker 1: on a top ten pick who has a ton of talent.
Speaker 1: Now that tells me that there are such bad off
Speaker 1: the field issues that they thought he is. There's no hope.
Speaker 1: I mean that's maybe his dad told her, but he
Speaker 1: wanted the house, But Pete, would you agree with me?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you trade a top ten pick after
Speaker 1: ten games and not even a year and uh, not
Speaker 1: even a year and a half. The messenger saying they're
Speaker 1: so bad off field problems and I don't know what
Speaker 1: the answer. I have not heard anything, but there's something
Speaker 1: so like we just can't deal with it and don't
Speaker 1: want to deal with it, so we're out. We're done. Well.
Speaker 1: When you go to his house and training can this
Speaker 1: is are usually a red flag. The only people I
Speaker 1: ever knew that where people were going to their houses.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this has been an exact same
Speaker 1: reason they used to less sneat is now the GM
Speaker 1: of the ramps used to pick up Andre Rods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not going over for afternoon tea. I'll say that.
Speaker 1: I just I mean, well, I just tomorrow afternoon, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make sure my dad calls my boss to let
Speaker 1: him know that I'm okay with what's going. All right,
Speaker 1: that'll do it for social media questions. It's time for
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football and it's an NFC Eat showdown. First
Speaker 1: Places on the Line at Jerry's World in Big d.
Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles at one and one, led by quarterback
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts Gardner Minshew on the bench. They visit Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott on the one in one Dallas Cowboys. Who you
Speaker 1: got in Big d tonight, Tom Cowboys better quarterback. I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys win, but I think it's close. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be really close. With me. I said
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You said the Cowboys. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you said Cowboys, big, I said, the Cowboys have the
Speaker 1: better quarterback. Listen, clean out your ears. Run this year. Zeke,
Speaker 1: Who's gonna give the ball today? Because everybody's coming down
Speaker 1: on him a little bit. Well, here's any thing so
Speaker 1: far in the first three Monday nights, I'm three and oh.
Speaker 1: In my picks, Pete is and I'm sorry, Pete is
Speaker 1: one on one. You were wrong Opening weekend? What was
Speaker 1: that game? I picked the Raiders, You picked the Ravens. Correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there he is. Pizza out of here. You stop talk
Speaker 1: about Pete Briscoe, Tony Boselli, Joe Fortunato, Brent Reber, our
Speaker 1: entire crew. I'm JP Shadwick. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on
Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network.