1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with the first debate of twenty twenty 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: four for President Biden and former President Trump. The CNN 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: presidential debate was a tough night for the president. He 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: fumbled with lines, struggled with a cough, and tripped over 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: key numbers like this moment on his economic record. 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: Economy collapsed, there were no jobs, Unemployment ray rose to 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: fifteen percent. 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 4: It was terrible. 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: And so what we had to do is try to 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: put things back together again. And that's exactly what we 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: began to do. We created fifteen thousand new jobs. 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: The president meant to say fifteen million jobs. Former President 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: Trump was quick to pounce on the economy. 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 5: We had given them back a country where the stock 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 5: market actually was higher than pre COVID, and nobody thought 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 5: that was even possible. The only jobs he created editor 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 5: for illegal immigrants and. 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 6: Bounce back jobs. 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 5: It bounce back from the COVID. 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: But Trump may have had his own missteps. The former 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: president was asked whether he would accept the results of 25 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: this election and denounce political violence. 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 5: If it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 5: I would have much rather accepted these But the fraud 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 5: and everything else was ridiculous. 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: But President Biden's halting performance is getting a lot of 30 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: attention this morning. Sources tell Bloomberg News the president was 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: fighting a cold last night. 32 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Well Nathan reaction is pouring into the debate. A CNN 33 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: flash poll showed as sixty seven percent of a watchers 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: thought Trump won. Bloomberg Politics contributor Rick Davis thinks it 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: was a bad showing by the president. 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 7: The performance by Joe Biden has to creat questions in 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 7: the Democratic Party's minds is whether or not they have 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 7: someone who's up to the election. They've got five months ago, 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 7: and this was not a man who I would say 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 7: you'd ever want to put on a debate stage again. 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributor Chris and Hahn said the Biden campaign 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: will have to immediately strategize. 43 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 8: They're going to have to come up with how they're 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 8: going to talk about it immediately, and I think that 45 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 8: the campaign's ready to do that. And I think if 46 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 8: you're going to look at the president is right on 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 8: the issues. He was up against a liar. The performance 48 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 8: wasn't what it needed to be. The campaign is going 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 8: to have to be in full mode, you know, like 50 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 8: out there talking to people about like what makes this 51 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 8: president different, why these issues are so important to the 52 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 8: American people. 53 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: Both Kristin Hahn, a partner at Rock Solutions, and Rick 54 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Davis of stone Court Capital are Bloomberg political contributors, and 55 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: Karen we. 56 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: Did see some immediate market reaction following the debate. We 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: get the latest on that from Bloomberg's John Tucker. 58 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 9: John and Nathi dollar Ange hire As traders concluded that 59 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 9: former President Trump was the victor in the debate. Bloomberg's 60 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 9: gauge of the US currency climbing as much as two 61 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,559 Speaker 9: tenths of a percent before they move fell back. Peter Oppenheimer, 62 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 9: the chief global equity strategist of Goldman Sachsi's the market 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 9: narrative shifting. 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 10: The focus is very much now on politics, and I 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,559 Speaker 10: think we're starting to see that in slightly high volatility. 66 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 9: Trump, who once proclaimed himself tariff man, has proposed universal 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 9: baseline terence on most foreign products, including higher levees on 68 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 9: certain countries that devalue their currency. On another front, shares 69 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 9: of Trump media, significant source of the former president's wealth. 70 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 9: In pre market trading are up seven and a half percent. 71 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 9: I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 72 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Right, John, thank you well. The real possible market moving 73 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: event comes later this morning. It involves a key inflation 74 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: report that the Fed closely follows. We get a preview 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 76 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 6: It's the number everyone is waiting for but likely already knows. 77 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 6: PCE inflation is the measure that Fed uses for its 78 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 6: two percent target. It uses inputs from the consumer and 79 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 6: producer price indexes. After both a released, economists can plug 80 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 6: those numbers into their PCE calculations and pretty much nail 81 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 6: where PCE will come out. The consensus is you'll see 82 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 6: more good news on inflation with headline PCE flat and 83 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 6: core up just a little. That will push down both 84 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 6: the headline and core year over year figures and add 85 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 6: momentum to the view the Central Bank will be able 86 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 6: to lower interest rates later this year. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Radio. 87 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: All right, Mike, thanks and company news. Shares of nikeer 88 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: swooshing lower this morning, down more than fourteen percent. The 89 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: company reported quarterly sales that fell short of expectations. More 90 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 91 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: It adds urgency to the world's largest sportswear company's efforts 92 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 4: to strengthen its ties with its retail partners and speed 93 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: up its product development. Revenue fell one point seven percent 94 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 4: to twelve point six billion dollars for the fiscal fourth quarter, 95 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: missing the average of analyst estimates. Greater China revenue for 96 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 4: the quarter was one point eight six billion dollars, beating 97 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: the average analyst estimate, while earnings per share also surpassed expectations. 98 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: The results show that the weakness that Nike has reported 99 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: in recent quarters is persisting in New York. Charlie Pellett 100 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 4: Bloomberg Radio. 101 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: All right, Charlie, thank you. Weby now turned to the 102 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: latest in the Middle East. Record numbers of Hezbela projectiles 103 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: have hit Israel this month. Meanwhile, Israel's military is carrying 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: out deeper attacks in Lebanon. This is all raising concerns 105 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: that Middle East may be heading toward a major regional war. 106 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Israel Bureau chief Ethan Brauner has more from Tel Aviv. 107 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 11: In theory, all sides are opposed that as Israel says 108 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 11: it doesn't want a war if it can find a 109 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 11: diplomatic solution. His blissays, We're not interested in having a war, 110 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 11: but we're ready for one. But the level of combative 111 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 11: rhetoric and of sort of escalation in the name of 112 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 11: de escalation is really very alarming, and I think that 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 11: there is a genuine risk which would of course do 114 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 11: terrible things to both countries as well as to oil prices. 115 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 11: And then there's of course a massive risk of Iran 116 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 11: coming and end of the US. 117 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Israel buer Ro chief Evan Bronner says both senior 118 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: US and French and diplomats have visited Jerusalem and Beirut 119 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: as part of an intense push to stay of off 120 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: escalation in the region and as time now for a 121 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: look at some of the other stories making news in 122 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: New York and around the world. For that were joined 123 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, good Morning. 124 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 10: Good morning. Karen, the former Uvaldi School District police chief 125 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 10: in Texas, has been indicted over the failed response to 126 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 10: the rob Elementary school shooting that left nineteen students and 127 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 10: two teachers dead in May of twenty twenty two. Pete 128 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 10: Aredondo was booked on ten felony accounts of child endangerment 129 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 10: and abandonment. Arenando was briefly booked into the county jail 130 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 10: before being released on a ten thousand dollars bond. A 131 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 10: second officer, Adrian Gonzalez, was also indicted on similar charges. 132 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 10: The families of those killed gathered outside the county jail, 133 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 10: calling for more indictments against law enforcement. Brett Cross lost 134 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 10: his ten year old son. 135 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 7: There were children in there and they did nothing, and 136 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 7: that is neglect, and that is negligence and they need 137 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 7: to be charged for that as well. 138 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 10: 'voldy Officials are expected to unseal the indictments later this morning. 139 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 10: The NYPD is looking for an escaped prisoner. A man 140 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 10: hunt is underway for thirty five year old James Massetti. 141 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 10: Authorities say he allegedly escaped from a Manhattan hospital Wednesday night. 142 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 10: Bassetti was brought to New York City Health and Hospital's 143 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 10: Bellevue on June fifth for a medical issue. Police say 144 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 10: he was being prepared to be transported back to Rikers 145 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 10: Island when he escaped from authorities. He is described as 146 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 10: being five feet six inches tall weighs about one hundred 147 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 10: and eighty pounds and wears glasses. Anyone with information is 148 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 10: asked to call police. The Biden administration is weighing in 149 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 10: on the Supreme Court Idaho abortion ruling on access to 150 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 10: emergency medical care. White House Press Secretary Karine Jean Pierre 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 10: speaking to reporters of Board Air Force one. 152 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 12: No woman should be denyed care, or wait until she's 153 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 12: near death, or forced to flee her home state just 154 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 12: to receive the healthcare she needs. Yet, this is exactly 155 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 12: what is happening in states across the country since the 156 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 12: Supreme Court overturned Roe v. 157 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 13: Waite. 158 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 10: More decisions are expected from the Supreme Court today. Iranians 159 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 10: have started voting in a presidential election to replace late 160 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 10: President Ibrahim Rayisi. Today's voting follows the May helicopter crash 161 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 10: that killed Rayisi, the Foreign Minister, and several other officials. 162 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 10: Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you 163 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 10: want it with the Bloomberg News Now. I'm Michael Barr, 164 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 10: and this is Bloomberg. 165 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: Carry all right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for 166 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Sports Update with John stash Hour. 167 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 14: John, good morning, Good morning, Carrying the Yankees. We're cruising 168 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 14: through the first half of the season. They started off 169 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 14: ten and two. They hadn't eleven and two stretch in May. 170 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 14: They won twelve to fourteen in June, but since the 171 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 14: fifteenth of the month they are just two and nine. 172 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 14: And in Toronto they fell way behind right away one. 173 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 15: Two swinging a drive deep left field. That one's way 174 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 15: back and that ball is gone. A second deck shot 175 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 15: for George Springer and the Blue Jays are up five 176 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 15: nothing before and out Spin recorded. 177 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 14: Which that five ninety to call. An inning later, Springer 178 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 14: with another three run shot, both off Carlos Rodan. The 179 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 14: Blue Jays led eight to nothing in the second inning 180 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 14: went on to win nine to two. Rodann, who struggled 181 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 14: last season, had won seven starts in a row. Now 182 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 14: he's lost his last three, allowing twenty earn runs in 183 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 14: those three games. The Orioles beat Texas eleven to two. 184 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 14: Baltimore now tied for first with the Yanks, Mets, and Astros. Tonight' 185 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 14: City Field, the Mets were eleven games under five hundred, 186 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 14: Houston was once twelve under, and now the Mets are 187 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 14: thirty nine and thirt nine, and the Astros are forty 188 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 14: and forty round two of the NBA draft that drama 189 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 14: game with pick number fifty five overall, and sure enough, 190 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 14: the Lakers took Ronnie James, so he and his father 191 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 14: Lebron can make NBA history first father and son teammates. 192 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 14: The Nixon round two took Marquette point guard Tyler Kolak. 193 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 14: He was once Biggiest Player of the Year. Colorado's Nathan 194 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 14: McKinnon won the Heart Trophy is NHL MVP. The NFL 195 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 14: Delta defeat in an LA courtroom ordered to pay four 196 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 14: point seven billion dollars in a class action lawsuit brought 197 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 14: by two and a half million plaintiffs who argued the 198 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 14: NFL over a twenty eight year period inflated the price 199 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 14: for the Sunday ticket package that allowed fans to watch 200 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 14: all the games of the NFL says it will appeal. 201 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 14: John Stashedward Bloomberg Sports Ken Nathan. 202 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 16: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 203 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 16: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 204 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 16: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm 205 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 16: Nathan Hager. It is the morning after the first debate 206 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 16: rematch between President Biden and former President Donald Trump. This 207 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 16: first encounter came a lot earlier in. 208 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: The political cycle than debates like this have come in 209 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: the past. The President may have been hoping to give 210 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: a kickstart to his struggling re election campaign, but a 211 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: faltering performance last night maybe raising new questions for Democrats 212 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: about where this race goes from here. Joining us now 213 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: for some morning after analysis are Greg Valier, chief US 214 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: policy strategist at AGF Investments, and Terry Haynes, the founder 215 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: of Pangaea Policy. Terry, good morning, It's good to speak 216 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: with you. Your reaction to what we heard last night 217 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: on the CNN presidential debate stage. 218 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 17: Nathan, good morning. A few things first, I think the 219 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 17: reaction certainly is going to be kind of a market's 220 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 17: negative and a geopolitical negative. We say three things though. 221 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 17: First is Biden certainly had a bad night. I think 222 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 17: it's negative for him, but I think it's irretrievable and 223 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 17: you can forget him being replaced by Democrats. I mean, 224 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 17: I think that's not going to happen based on what 225 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 17: we know today at all. Secondly, I think we need 226 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 17: to think about Trump a little bit more too. Trump 227 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 17: didn't break out here. Trump's the major problems are that 228 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 17: he's dealing with a split Republican Party, He's dealing with 229 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 17: independents who do not prefer him. He didn't make any 230 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 17: moves last night to change that out. If Biden had 231 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 17: the performance that he had had against any Republican nominee 232 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 17: other than Trump, you'd see a lot of people flocking 233 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 17: towards the Republican nominee. Because it's Trump. That's not going 234 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 17: to happen. Finally, I think in short attention span theater 235 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 17: that we have here today, you know, we have the 236 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 17: kerfuffle of the moment, but that's going to quickly move 237 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 17: to the Supreme Court decision on Trump community Trump's sentencing 238 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 17: on July eleventh, the conventions, the vice presidential pick. This 239 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 17: is all going to get swirled around a lot more, 240 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 17: and Biden will have plenty of opportunities to write the ship. 241 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: Want to bring you into this conversation, Greg Valu here, 242 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: because you have a note out this morning with the 243 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 2: headline that's quite a bit different from the analysis we 244 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: just heard from Terry. Democrats in full panic mode. Tell 245 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: me more. 246 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 13: Oh yeah, I mean, I think we can't look at 247 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 13: just a few trees. We've got to look at the forest, 248 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 13: and the forest is irrefutable. He was horrible. It was 249 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 13: a disaster. I think in the next few days we're 250 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 13: going to have to have an adult conversation about dementia 251 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 13: and Alzheimer's. I mean, this is an absolute nightmare for 252 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 13: the Democrats, and I would state, maybe fearlessly, that he 253 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 13: will not be on the ticket within a week or two. 254 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: Obviously a very different analysis, Terry, Does it go too 255 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: far to talk about this idea of demain Alzheimer's. I mean, 256 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: there have been questions about President Biden's age and acuity before. 257 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: With the stumbles that we saw last night, is that 258 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: a conversation that needs to be had. 259 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 17: Sure, you know, the Democrats have Democrats and been parts 260 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 17: of the media, not this not this network, but Democrats 261 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 17: and parts of the media have been spent busily six 262 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 17: months to a year denying that not only the conversation 263 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 17: needed to happen, but that that conversation needed to happen 264 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 17: about Biden. And so now they're in full catch up mode, sadly, 265 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 17: and you know, absolutely the conversation is going to be had. 266 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 17: I don't say anything that I say lightly I do 267 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 17: say that the Democrats are going to fold in around 268 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 17: him much more than much more than that. There's a 269 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 17: I think a disparity between you know, the inside the 270 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 17: Belwagh types and what's going to go on in the 271 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 17: broader country over the or over the next week. The 272 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 17: country has been much more skeptical of this than than 273 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 17: Washington has. So Washington's having a catch up moment too. 274 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: I want to get your reaction as well to you know, 275 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: some of the attack points that President Biden tried to 276 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: put out last night. He did go after the former 277 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: president toward the middle of the debate on his legal issues. 278 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: Let's hear a bit of what the President had to say. 279 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: Crime. So you are charged with and think of all 280 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: the civil pedalies you have. How many billions of dollars 281 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: do you own civil penalties for a molesting a woman 282 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: of public, for doing a whole range of things, of 283 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: having sex from a porn star on the night while 284 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: your wife was pregnant. I mean, what are you talking about, Well, 285 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: you have the morals of an alley cat. 286 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: Greg That gets to the point that Terry made about 287 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: if this were any other Republican that the president would 288 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: be going after he would have had a better night. 289 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: I mean, what's your reaction to that the former president 290 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: may have some foible, some issues of his own. 291 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 13: I think Terry's right, and I think that it was 292 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 13: not a good night for Trump. He's very vulnerable. It 293 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 13: became quite clear that he's vulnerable. However, I think that 294 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 13: again the big story is the performance by Biden, which 295 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 13: I think for a lot of people was shocking. And 296 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 13: I do think over the weekend you're going to have meetings, 297 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 13: maybe all in private, but you're going to have meetings 298 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 13: among Democrats saying can we keep him as our candidate? 299 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 13: And I think there are a lot of governors, not 300 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 13: Gavin Newsom, who's in the middle of a self inflicted 301 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 13: budget debacle in California, but I think there are a 302 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 13: lot of governors, maybe starting with Gretchen Whittmer in Michigan, 303 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 13: who you will hear a lot about over the next 304 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 13: few days. 305 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: But to Terry's point about whether this could just be 306 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: a blip, that there will be other factors to get 307 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: to gain a lot of the public's attention, whether it's 308 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court decisions or the conventions. Is this debate 309 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: performance of blip or can it have more resonance into November. 310 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 13: I think it's the latter. I think that it's highly 311 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 13: unlikely that people will look at him the same after 312 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 13: last night. 313 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 17: Terry Well, I think some of my least favorite phrases 314 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 17: or things like It remains to be seen. But you know, 315 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 17: the voters have been way ahead on this. 316 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 8: And. 317 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 17: At the same time, you know, Biden's still neck and 318 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 17: neck with Trump. So the question is, you know, whether 319 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 17: whether the surprise that's exhibited in the Washington and media 320 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 17: centers gets played out in the public. The other thing 321 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 17: I would say is, you know, Larry savagaou at an 322 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 17: interesting point this week that people who somewhat approve of 323 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 17: Biden's performance in office are somewhat disapproved are way way ahead, 324 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 17: twenty nine points ahead if you sort of approve of 325 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 17: his job, seventy seven percent if you don't. So there's 326 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 17: a you know, when you've got a head on head, 327 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 17: it's a lot of reluctant desire to pull the lever 328 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 17: in Biden's favor. That's going to get cut back a bit, certainly, 329 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 17: But I don't think it dissipates overnight, and I don't 330 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 17: know where those voters go Frankly, they almost certainly don't 331 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 17: go to Trump, and they're not going to go to 332 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 17: a third party like Bob Kennedy. 333 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: But just quickly, Terry, what about this idea that there 334 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: could be other Democrats waiting in the wings after a 335 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: performance like we saw from President Biden last night? Is 336 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: that something that should be seriously considered that the president 337 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: could be replaced on the ticket based on one debate performance. 338 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 17: Well, I'd watch. I think Greg makes a legitimate point. 339 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 17: I'd watch, I'd watch the body language of Democrats over 340 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 17: the next several days to ten to several days to 341 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 17: ten days. Frankly, Remember we're going United States is going 342 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 17: into it basically a week long holiday, so they're going 343 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 17: to have some time to be out there. But you know, 344 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 17: this has always been kind of like a second rate 345 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 17: to Shakespearean play. You know, Newsom's been lurking in the 346 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 17: wings for a while, Whitber pops up and moves back. 347 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 17: There have been other players, so it's gonna get considered. 348 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 17: My only point is I think the Biden people hold 349 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 17: very very tightly to the reins and don't let them go, 350 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 17: and you know they're failsafe is that they're going to 351 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 17: get nominated. Biden nominated a virtual convention, not a real one, 352 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 17: So they've got the mechanisms actually to cut things off 353 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 17: at the past. 354 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: We wouldn't that be something a repeat of twenty twenty 355 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: all over again, to have something like a virtual convention. 356 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: But Greg, I mean, how do Democrats sort of circle 357 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 2: the wagons around President Biden? What does that look like? 358 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: Do you think if we do see a scenario where 359 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: the president, you know, tries to fight past this, well. 360 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 13: They're going to say he had a bad cold, that 361 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 13: that was responsible for his weak voice. They're going to 362 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 13: say that there is still compelling reasons to oppose Donald Trump. 363 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 13: We heard some of them last night. So there's a window. 364 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 13: But to me, it's not a really strong window for 365 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 13: them to be able to claim any momentum. In fact, 366 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 13: I would argue that in the last forty eight hours, 367 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 13: even before the debate, there was some slippage in Biden's numbers, 368 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 13: especially in big electoral college states. I think it makes 369 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 13: this debate, makes it even tougher in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan 370 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 13: states like that. They already weren't looking good and they're 371 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 13: going to look a lot worse in the next week. 372 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: Or two estates that we certainly watched very closely, and 373 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: just adding to the snappole that we saw last night 374 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: from CNN itself that about two and three viewers of 375 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: last night's debate thought that the former president came out victorious. 376 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 2: Thanks to both of you for this morning after analysis, 377 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: Greg Valier and chief US Policy Strategistic AGF Investments, as 378 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: well as Terry Haynes, the founder of Pangaea Policy. And 379 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: we want to turn now to our correspondent who was 380 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 2: in Atlanta covering the debate for US and getting some 381 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: of the reaction on the ground as well. David Goura 382 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 2: is with us this morning from Atlanta, of course, the 383 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: host of the Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News. David, 384 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you hear the narrative this morning about how 385 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: tough a night it was for President Biden, that former 386 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: President Trump seemed strong. What's some of what you're hearing 387 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: in the spin room and the post debate. 388 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 18: Yes, that's exactly what I'm hearing and exactly what I 389 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 18: saw when I was watching that debate unfold from the 390 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 18: spin room in the media area at the debate last night. 391 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 18: I mean, there was a kind of remarkable moment when 392 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 18: that debate ended, and you know, President Biden was dealt 393 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 18: a very low bar that he had to clear. He 394 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 18: didn't clear it. He didn't have to have a good night. 395 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 18: He had have a decent night. I don't think that. 396 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 18: I don't think that he did. The debate ended, it 397 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 18: got very quiet, and then all the reporters migrated down 398 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 18: to the floor of the basketball arena and Georgia Tech 399 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 18: where we were watching this unfold, and then surrogates began 400 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 18: to kind of march out for Donald Trump and really 401 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 18: filled the floor. And it took Nathan probably ten or 402 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 18: fifteen minutes before any Democratic surrogate showed up, before we 403 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 18: saw Gavin Newsom and Raphael Warnick on the floor of 404 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 18: that arena to field questions and spend as best they 405 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 18: could that debate performance. So I think that the vacuum 406 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 18: that opened up was real Democrats and supportive of Joe 407 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 18: Biden trying to figure out what the message is going 408 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 18: forward here. But I think that there was near unanimity 409 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 18: among those who watched it there in the arena that 410 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 18: this was not the night that that Joe Biden needed. 411 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 18: In what Joe Biden forecasted, he would have. 412 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting to hear a Republican sort of coming out 413 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: in force for the former president when we hear Terry 414 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: Haynes saying that he still sees a split in the 415 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: Republican Party. Does that reaction that you saw last night 416 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: sort of put the light of that or is this 417 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: a non Trump wing of the Republican Party just even 418 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: further in the wings now? 419 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 17: You know? 420 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 18: Right before the debate, I talked to Governor Brian Kemp 421 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 18: of Georgia. He was walking the floor and we caught 422 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 18: up a little bit and I asked him about how 423 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 18: he thinks the party is going to coalesce around Donald Trump. 424 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 18: And of course, Brian Kemp, we learned this week, did 425 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 18: not vote for Donald Trump in the primary this year, 426 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 18: and he said he's very confident it's going to happen. 427 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 18: And I think that last night's debate performance is going 428 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 18: to do well by the former president. I mean, I 429 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 18: think that the again, the vision was so stark as 430 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 18: those surrogates came down, and I think that it was 431 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 18: very very clear that folks were falling in line and 432 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 18: very very eager to rally around him. I think that 433 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 18: the way that he performed last night certainly is going 434 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 18: to set that back. 435 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: So when it comes to the Democrats, what's the discussion 436 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: that you're anticipating that the Democratic Party is having this 437 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: morning after the current president's performance. 438 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 18: Picking up on what Greg and Terry said, I think 439 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 18: that there will be some talk about this cold and 440 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 18: what made it difficult for him to speak in kind 441 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 18: of a forceful manner during the course of that debate. 442 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 18: I imagine the next step of that is how good 443 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 18: an excuse is that going to be? And you know, 444 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 18: I've heard some people speculating about him maybe recusing himself 445 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 18: or whatever may happen. I don't know how that happens procedurally, 446 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 18: and I think that's kind of a novel and maybe 447 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 18: scary conversation for Democrats to have here in the next 448 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 18: few days. But I do think that last night's performance 449 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 18: made them reckon with the fact that this is not 450 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 18: as sure a thing as they thought that it was 451 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 18: going to be. And I think that again, it's it's 452 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 18: novel territory. It's it's something that they're going to have 453 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 18: to sort of feel their way through here in the 454 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 18: next few days. 455 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 2: And in our last minute, David does this sort of 456 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: overshadow some of the policy discussion that we heard a 457 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: lot of the you know, the usual sort of exaggerations 458 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: and misstatements that we heard from the former president. 459 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 18: I think absolutely, and I was struggled, I'm sure you 460 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 18: were by the way in which he kind of reframed 461 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 18: or recharacterized what happened on January sixth, how he reframed 462 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 18: or recharacterized what happened with the economy. I think that 463 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 18: what he said to Joe Biden was look at the economy. 464 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 18: I left you, you know, all of that untrue sort 465 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 18: of credit his tax cuts for the strength of the economy. 466 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 18: I think that that was able to sort of fade 467 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 18: into the background because he seemed to have such command 468 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 18: of the forum. I mean, we spoke yesterday just about 469 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 18: might this be a challenging format for the former president 470 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 18: because there's no audience. 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