1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Good Morning, This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Today's tip is that it's okay to quit things. Doing 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: something indefinitely isn't a virtue if you've determined that it's 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: not the best use of your time. I want to 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: start this episode by saying that I know some people 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: quit things left and right. Degree programs, jobs, exercise, regiments, relationships. 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Some people have troubles sticking with anything. This sort of 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: flightiness can be challenging for other people to deal with, 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: and in the long run probably isn't much fun for 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: the flighty people themselves. Overcoming challenges can give you incredible 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: self confidence. Fleeing from challenges does not. But if you're 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: listening to a podcast about productivity, I'm guessing you're not 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: the flighty sort like me. You probably pride your self 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: and setting out to do whatever you said you'd do. 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: We're the sorts of people who repeat phrases like winners 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: never quit and quitters never win. But sometimes quitting is 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: the best choice. Time devoted to one thing is time 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: not devoted to something else. In my own life, I've 20 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: certainly seen this. I've stuck with projects I didn't enjoy 21 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: and wasn't good at for all sorts of reasons. The 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: money was decent, the people were nice. I didn't like 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: the idea of quitting. But then when I'd finally get 24 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: around to moving on, a funny thing would happen. Some 25 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: amazing new opportunity would appear in the next week, And 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a coincidence. Open space invites 27 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: opportunity in a way that a cluttered calendar can't. When 28 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm busy, I don't schedule random calls or go to things. 29 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't leave space for serendipity, but serendipity bring some 30 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: pretty cool stuff when she shows up. In any case, 31 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: there are a few things you can think about if 32 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: you're pondering moving on first. In general, I like to 33 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: be in a place where I can walk away from things, 34 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: especially in the professional sphere. I've always prioritized savings because 35 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: money represents freedom to me. It's incredibly important not to 36 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: feel trapped by any job or project. I'm not saying 37 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: you need to have total financial independence, but you want 38 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: to have enough of a cushion that you're pretty sure 39 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: your family would be fine for the amount of time 40 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: it would take you to find something. I know that 41 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: if you're living on the edge, this is going to 42 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: be hard to pull off, but I also know that 43 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: that's not the case for many people listening to this podcast. 44 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: A financial cushion changes any decision making process. Second, try 45 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: to separate yourself from the sunk cost fallacy and economics. 46 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: A sunk cost is a cost that has already been 47 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: incurred and cannot be recovered. Because it can't be recovered, 48 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: you shouldn't take it into account in your decision making process. 49 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: If you've been paying a team to work on launching 50 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: a new product and it becomes clear that there is 51 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: no market for this product, you'll never get the team 52 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: members salaries back for the time they've already spent on it. 53 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: It's most rational to put these people on another project immediately, 54 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: but it's very tempting to throw good money after bad. 55 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: As the saying goes convincing ourselves that because we've spent 56 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: so much money on something, we should stick with it. 57 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: We do the same thing with our time. The fact 58 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: that you've spent three years at a company does not 59 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: mean you should keep working there if you're unhappy with 60 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: the direction the company is going or you're feeling unchallenged. 61 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes situations can be improved, and sometimes they can't. One 62 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: way to remove the sunk cost issue write a job 63 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: description for what you do. If you saw your job 64 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: advertise like this, would you apply? If so, great, If not, 65 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: you've got some thinking to do. In my case, I 66 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: work for myself and I've done a wide variety of 67 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: projects over the years. Freelance projects naturally change over faster 68 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: than full time jobs, but it can still be hard 69 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: to extricate yourself. Here's what's become my go to question 70 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: over the years. Would I pay even a token amount 71 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: of money to get this off my plate? If so, 72 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: then why am I spending my time on it? For 73 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: commitments that involve other people? I think it's important not 74 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: to leave people in the lurch. This is the reason 75 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: most people consider it wise to give two weeks notice. 76 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: If my kids sign up for a team sport, they 77 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: can't quit in the middle of the season. If they've 78 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: joined the school orchestra, they can't quit before the concert. 79 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: But I have let my kids quit other activities with 80 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: a few safeguards. For instance, when my oldest son wanted 81 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: to quit an individual sport, I required a cooling off period. 82 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: He had to go to three more classes to make 83 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: sure it wasn't about one particular frustration or that he 84 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: was having a bad day. I also don't allow quitting 85 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: just to sit around playing video games. He had to 86 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: choose something else active to do instead. But he met 87 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: both those conditions. A month later, he still wanted to stop, 88 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: and he'd identified another activity he was willing to do, 89 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: so I decided this was fine. These rules might help 90 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: you too. Don't quit in a rage, don't quit in 91 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: a way that leaves someone else in a lurch. And 92 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: when possible, think about your quitting in the context of 93 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: some other positive thing that you will then have room for. 94 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: But also know that you can walk away if you 95 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: need to. We spend less time thinking about the endings 96 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: of things then we do about the beginnings. But most 97 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: things do end. If you've been leading a meeting every 98 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, no that some Tuesday morning, however far it 99 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: is in the future, that meeting won't happen, and at 100 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: that point or on some other Tuesday, you won't be 101 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: leading the meeting. Earth will keep spinning on its axis. 102 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: You can quit. That doesn't mean the thing wasn't worth 103 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: doing it means it's not worth it for you, not 104 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: right now. Sometimes you walking away opens up space in 105 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: your life, and sometimes it opens up an opportunity for 106 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: someone else who will be able to give this activity 107 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: the attention it deserves. That's really a win win situation. 108 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: So what are you contemplating quitting? Picture yourself six months 109 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: in the future, if you were still doing this thing, 110 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: how would you feel? Sometimes the question can give you 111 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: some real insight. In the meantime, This is Laura. Thanks 112 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: for listening, and here's to making the most of our time. Hey, everybody, 113 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you. 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