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Speaker 2: Let's give this.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio on this Friendsgiving on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: We're all friends here. Welcome in. If you're in the

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Speaker 3: car cruising a round, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: You're a part of our family here today on this

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Speaker 3: friends Giving. We aren't the only ones Aaron and I

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Speaker 3: sitting here. Aaron, you are in the great city of

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas. Were you at the Players Era tournament over

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Speaker 3: this past week or what were your travel plans?

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Speaker 4: I was got in about.

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Speaker 5: I actually got in Monday, went straight to the arena,

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Speaker 5: and I know this will maybe be a topically very

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Speaker 5: good basketball not a very good event from pretty much

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, well that's look good basketball.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying, you know, it's friends Giving. I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: be glasses half full, but it's got some work to

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Speaker 3: So well, Manzi just told you that the Lions and

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Speaker 3: Packers are in the fourth quarter with just over three

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Speaker 3: DeVante Wyatt is injured for green Bay and it appears

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Speaker 3: to be a significant injury. So Detroit has yet to

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Speaker 3: have their fourth down play where they will likely have

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Speaker 3: to kick a field goal after Jared Goff was sacked

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Speaker 3: on a third down by Micah Parsons, who's been here,

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Speaker 3: there and everywhere today, so the Lions are likely to

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Speaker 3: attempt to make it a seven point game. They have

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Speaker 3: all three of their timeouts remaining, but three point fifteen

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Speaker 3: to go, and just a tough injury spot for the Packers,

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Speaker 3: but they have the ten point lead right now in

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Speaker 3: Detroit likely to attempt a field goal here to try

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Speaker 3: to make it a seven point game. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's the biggest game in the state of Michigan this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Torres sure, and it comes up on Saturday as

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Speaker 3: Ohio State, the number one ranked team in the country,

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Speaker 3: takes on fifteenth ranked Michigan. Buckeyes come in as a

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Speaker 3: nine and a half point favorite. But the numbers of

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Speaker 3: two teams as Michigan looks for their fifth straight win

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Speaker 3: and Ohio State looks to just end the misery that

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Speaker 6: The biggest game in Michigan this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously being around Vegas one, you know Michigan

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Speaker 4: But I saw some Ohio State gear.

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Speaker 5: Actually went to the Golden Knights game last night, saw

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Speaker 5: some Ohio State year. But I bring it up because

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Speaker 5: Ohio State fans definitively think that this is the year

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Speaker 4: And I don't think it's a false bravado.

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Speaker 5: I think they truly believe that, and Michigan fans are

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Speaker 5: So it is interesting to me that it does feel

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Speaker 3: And I may be the exception to the rule of

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Speaker 3: no segarette. I've been an Ohio State fan since I

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Speaker 3: And that's why I find it so surprising that Ohio

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Speaker 3: change everything, because I just think it's much bigger than that.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the rivalry. I think it's the moment.

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Speaker 3: it's crazy to me to think that Ohio State would

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know in.

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Speaker 4: But you know what I would say is a couple

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Speaker 5: Is one I agree obviously, like if Michigan can win

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Speaker 5: I think what's kind of interesting is, and j Martin

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Speaker 5: to be the Wiettest nine and two team in the

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Speaker 5: history of college football. Like just and listen, it's not pretty.

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Speaker 5: You know, offense is you know what Michigan's offense is.

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Speaker 5: And two coming into this game, and you know, you

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Speaker 5: that national championship last year. You know, incredible run deserves

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Speaker 5: But I just want to ask you, does feel kind

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Speaker 5: day that confetti fell against Notre Dame last January? What

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Speaker 5: Let me set it up for people who might not know.

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Speaker 5: Is that, you know, one, a fifth straight loss to Michigan. Two,

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Speaker 5: we don't know all of the tie breakers. Probably a

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Speaker 5: pretty good chance you are not going to the Big

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Speaker 5: Ten championship game. Potentially a year where you have been

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Speaker 5: I'm not talking about this. I'm not talking about that.

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Speaker 5: He's he's the rightful coach. He's been awesome this year,

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Speaker 5: He's been awesome throughout his career, with the Michigan bugaboo exception.

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Speaker 5: I'm just curious, like, what would the message boards be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that there's a lot there. And

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Speaker 3: also think like, well, we'll just do what we did

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Speaker 6: We'll just run the table.

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Speaker 3: We'll just win the four games, and then Ohio State

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Speaker 3: will win a national championship. And that is not the case.

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Speaker 3: I actually think the thing that was Ohio State was

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Speaker 3: and be physical with Michigan, no doubt. But the crazy

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Speaker 3: So I think that's caught up with them. But I

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Speaker 3: do think that there is an overconfidence in terms of

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Speaker 3: just care about the playoffs. And as someone who's had

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Speaker 3: this rivalry ruin their days and weeks and years for

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Speaker 3: forty years because the outcome didn't fall in there. The

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Speaker 3: two thousands, by the way, were pretty awesome, Like it

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Speaker 6: It consumes you. Monty and I have done shows together.

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Speaker 3: I've told her it all matters is November twenty ninth,

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Speaker 2: How would you compare Notre Dame USC to Michigan and

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Speaker 7: Well, I grew up in Columbus, Ohio, So I've got

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Speaker 7: I don't know if that tradition will continue, but honoring

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Speaker 6: That is a perfect summation.

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Speaker 3: I think of this rivalry from Brady Quinn and he

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Speaker 3: Like there's just even in the down years, like when

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Speaker 6: But you can't beat Michigan.

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Speaker 3: And it's not to say that Michigan has been less

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was funny, you know, I referenced we're at

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Speaker 6: Michigan fans, Yes, you don't think that.

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Speaker 5: You know, for the last three hundred and sixty four days, Hey,

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Speaker 5: So I think that's a very interesting dynamic in all

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Speaker 5: But I just bring it up because for right now,

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Speaker 5: Fascinating times and so real quick, just what is Dan

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Speaker 5: So it's one thing to say that you don't have

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Speaker 3: It's running game is is has not been as great

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Speaker 3: It's I think that it's funny because when I've watched Michigan,

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Speaker 3: He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer. This is a friend's

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Speaker 3: to the news desk. Manzi Milanios. Green Bay had a

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Speaker 3: It was a fourth and three on the conversion. Manzi.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like my wife again, Happy birthday to my wife.

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Speaker 3: heard some voice chattering. But Packers get a big win

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Speaker 3: against the Lions. We may get a guest from that

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Speaker 3: game or two, our own Chris prefet is in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: He took his mom to the game today, so Chris

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Speaker 3: may chime in. Also may get a chance to talk

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Speaker 3: to a green Bay Packer as Packers get that big

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Speaker 3: victory for the Lions seven and five. Green Bay now

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Speaker 3: eight three and one with the victory today. He is

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Speaker 3: Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. Now the scene shifts to

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Speaker 3: what's happening in Dallas with the Chiefs and Cowboys, and

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Speaker 3: the scene will also shift to Oxford, Mississippi. What a

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Speaker 3: weekend it is for the Ole miss Rebels. The Egg

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Speaker 3: Bowl on Friday and then the decision on Saturday. We'll

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Speaker 3: talk about it next year on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: Here is erin Torres. I'm Dan Bayer.

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Speaker 6: One down, two to go on this Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to NFL games, the Packers top the

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Speaker 3: Lions thirty one to twenty four. Mantzi Blahos will have

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Speaker 3: details coming up in a matter of minutes. But Aaron,

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Speaker 3: oh my goodness, straight from Detroit on our doorstep as

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Speaker 3: he just took in this Lions Packers game and he

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Speaker 3: took his mom to the game. Welcome to Friends Giving,

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Speaker 3: Our teammate and friend at Fox Sports Radio, Chris Perfets,

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Speaker 3: who is in Motown to watch the Lions and Packers today.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what was better, Chris, the game or

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Speaker 3: the halftime show.

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Speaker 6: Give us the reviews.

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Speaker 2: I think the halftime show kind of sold. Everyone starts.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Eminem was on the docket, and I

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Speaker 2: kind of got the sense of it because they had

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Speaker 2: that what's that one drives go. I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 2: this is an Eminem thing. What's Jack White doing with it?

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Speaker 2: And then pop there he is. The goo's a seven

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Speaker 2: nation army. But everyone I think it's funny. And my

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Speaker 2: mom's friend actually texted her and said, you're seeing Eminem

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Speaker 2: right now. I'm so jealous. So I think that's the

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Speaker 2: one who sold the show there, especially with how the

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Speaker 2: Lions offen supported themselves at the end of the game.

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Speaker 5: Chris, let me ask you this yes play. I think

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Speaker 5: it was probably the third to last series of the game.

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Speaker 5: Dan Campbell goes for it rather than kicking the field

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Speaker 5: goal to make it a one score game. The subsequent drive,

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Speaker 5: Jared Koff gets hit pretty hard by Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 4: Then Dan Campbell decides to go for it. Are you bothered?

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Speaker 5: We know that what the ethos of the organization is,

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Speaker 5: but should he have kicked that field goal with about

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Speaker 5: eight nine minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: Well, I am one who understands the analytics of it,

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Speaker 2: and I think I appreciate it. I will say I

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Speaker 2: think the Ford field fates weal is getting a little

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Speaker 2: tired of it, just because the efficiency isn't there. The

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Speaker 2: play calling is more of the issue than going for

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Speaker 2: it at this point. That wasn't the one fourth down,

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Speaker 2: but there was one earlier in the game where they

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Speaker 2: kept handing the ball off. They brand the thing play

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Speaker 2: four times. Basically, I didn't have a problem with the

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Speaker 2: fourth down call there. Well, I did have a problem

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Speaker 2: with was that drive was very language. Both those offensive

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Speaker 2: drives took a lot of time off the clock and

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Speaker 2: you're down that many points, and I think if I

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Speaker 2: have to pinpoint the problem between this Lion's off sense

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Speaker 2: of last year, it's just the lack of urgency sometimes

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Speaker 2: and that kind of situation we see the Lions maybe

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Speaker 2: start to go up Temple and just it wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: I think they burned. That was like a six to

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Speaker 2: seven minute drive or something. And they were still down

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Speaker 2: ten points to that point. I didn't really hate it

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Speaker 2: too much, but you gave yourself no time to have

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Speaker 2: a third drive at the end of the game, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's where people were really frustrated.

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Speaker 11: There, just the lack of urgency.

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Speaker 3: For those that don't know, Chris Profet is our teammate

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Speaker 3: here at Fox Sports Radio. He's also covered the Lions

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Speaker 3: for years and took his mom to her first ever

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Speaker 3: Lions game today on Thanksgiving Day at Ford Field in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: He's joining eron Torres and myself. How did mom like

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Speaker 3: the Thanksgiving experience? And it's kind of a two part question,

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Speaker 3: because how does this differ from every other Lions game

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Speaker 3: that you would normally go to, or any fan would

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Speaker 3: go to. How is Thanksgiving Giving Day's Thanksgiving Day game different?

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Speaker 2: Well, Hey, we started by having dinner when on Wednesday

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Speaker 2: for our Thanksgiving because there's nobody home to cook the turkey.

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Speaker 2: B I surprised her with a custom Lions jersey. She

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Speaker 2: didn't have one. She had a bunch of blue to

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Speaker 2: wear the game, and I just popped in with the

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Speaker 2: number one mom jersey. Really get her there a great moment.

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Speaker 2: It was a great moment. Yeah, it's very impressive. Detroit

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Speaker 2: really gets down for This is a really old Thanksgiving game.

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Speaker 2: I think it's got to be at least over one

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Speaker 2: hundred years old at this point. You know, not long

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Speaker 2: after they came up from Portsmith and became the Lions

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Speaker 2: playing the Bears on Thanksgiving. They were owned by a

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Speaker 2: radio mobile at the time who came up with this

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Speaker 2: idea of playing on Thanksgiving to really give them a

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Speaker 2: lot more publicity. And it worked and it really shows

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Speaker 2: like it's it is.

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Speaker 4: It is still.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable around here in Detroit right now. There are tons

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Speaker 2: of people pouring out. We missed our parking garage once

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Speaker 2: and we almost didn't get there in time for kickoff

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Speaker 2: because there's just so many people around here. It's I

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Speaker 2: would say this this is actually my second Thanksgiving game.

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Speaker 2: I went ten years ago when they were playing the

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles. They won that game, but I also would

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Speaker 2: say it was easier to get in, and also I

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Speaker 2: saw like three different fights with Eagles fans in those stands.

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Speaker 2: This thankfully no fights for my mom. There was a

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Speaker 2: guy behind us who was just kind of like giving

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Speaker 2: it to Dan Campbell the entire time. Which he didn't enjoy.

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Speaker 2: But this is her first ever NFL experience too. You

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Speaker 2: guys know this. You're college football fans. She's grown up

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Speaker 2: a lot of college football in her life. It's very different.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot more agro, I would say, though, like

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Speaker 2: you know, you've at least got good vibes for what

565
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Speaker 2: the Lions are. Their season is starting to take a

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Speaker 2: nosedive here, so I'll see how it goes. But like it.

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Speaker 2: It's a fantastic thing. You saw the they bring out

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Speaker 2: the halftime show. It's a fantastic halftime show. They got

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Speaker 2: the Fox NFL crew there. I'm sure some lucky packer

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Speaker 2: ate the ate the turkey and everything. The gobbler or

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Speaker 2: do they do the tur ducan? Is it a cilitar

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Speaker 2: Duckcan you know?

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Speaker 6: They were eating something?

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Speaker 3: And I saw somebody with a wing, Yes, but I

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Speaker 3: didn't have the sound out in the studio, so I

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Speaker 3: couldn't quite see if.

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Speaker 4: It was the wing not the leg.

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Speaker 2: It's usually a.

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Speaker 6: Yes, but I saw someone with a wing leg.

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Speaker 2: You hold a leg, you look like, you know, an

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Speaker 2: a norseman out of Viking in a big chunk of meat.

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Speaker 3: Mad had six of them on there, right there is

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Speaker 3: eight that they would throw on there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they stuffed like what five different bird is

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Speaker 2: a turkey, a duck and a chicken tur duck in right? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, they were mowing down his Packers defense. Who got

587
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: after it got after the Lions today, Jordan Love. They

588
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Speaker 3: should probably save two or three legs for his performance

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Speaker 3: as well. Chris, we loved having you stop by on

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Speaker 3: this Thanksgiving, on this friends Giving. Enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 3: your time with Mom and your rest of your time

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Speaker 3: in Motown and in the Midwest, and safe travels back

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Speaker 3: here to the West Coast.

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving guys, and see you soon.

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Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving. Chris Purfet, our teammate at Fox Sports Radio.

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00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: You'll hear him during End Zone Radio on Sundays. You

597
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: also hear him Saturdays here on FSR and various points.

598
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: Had to have Chris call in since it was such

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Speaker 3: a special day for he and his family taking in

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Speaker 3: that Lions Packers game.

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Speaker 5: That was awesome, man, And I'm glad you you know, listen,

602
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 5: I was kind of locked in on the final result

603
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Speaker 5: and this and that, and I'm glad you just asked about,

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Speaker 5: you know, the mom experience, but then also not just

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Speaker 5: the mom experience, but also the city experience, because I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, we all think of Thanksgiving as this time

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Speaker 5: where you're with family and you're this and you're that.

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Speaker 5: But I would venture to guess, with however, many decades

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Speaker 5: of this being on the calendar, there's probably a lot

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Speaker 5: of civic pride in hosting that game. And so I'm

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Speaker 5: glad you got that question in because I thought it

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Speaker 5: was interesting to hear Chris's response on that.

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Speaker 3: I love and I've heard stories of fans who always

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Speaker 3: have tickets to the game and they have their Thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: meal at night. Now, I remember walking into many of

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Speaker 3: my Thanksgivings and having the Lions game beyond the TV.

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Speaker 3: Had an early Thanksgiving on one side of the family,

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Speaker 3: a late Thanksgiving on the other. But the Lions game

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Speaker 3: also always signified to me being in Aunt Betty's house

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Speaker 3: for Thanksgiving. So at what would be, you know, eleven

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Speaker 3: thirty noon Central time, you'd have the Lions game on

622
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Speaker 3: on the old TV and family around. So that's why

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Speaker 3: I've never ever wanted the Lions removed. And now they've

624
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Speaker 3: been good, you're not having that stupid conversation of should

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Speaker 3: we take Detroit off, and your point. It's so much

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Speaker 3: a part of the city and the history that Detroit

627
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: should never lose Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 5: Well, real quick, I remember you mentioned off the top,

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Speaker 5: you know, an hour one of this Doug Gottlieb show,

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Speaker 5: that you and I have been doing this for quite

631
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Speaker 5: a while now.

632
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Speaker 4: And I remember, I mean pre Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 5: We must have been doing it because at least one

634
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Speaker 5: year we had the conversation of should this this come off?

635
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Speaker 5: And I know that should this be removed from Thanksgiving Day?

636
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Speaker 5: And I know you've had this take since before the

637
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Speaker 5: Lions were actually good, So it shows how long.

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Speaker 4: We've been doing this for.

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Speaker 5: But also the fact that you know this is a

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Speaker 5: stance that you have had for quite some time now.

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Speaker 3: Well, Monty Belanos is here and we don't want you

642
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Speaker 3: to do every Thanksgiving Day game, Monzi, but we are

643
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Speaker 3: appreciative that you're here with us for this friends giving,

644
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Speaker 3: hanging out, giving us the latest of what's happening today.

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Speaker 8: You know, I don't know, Oh it's a Latino thing,

646
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Speaker 8: but I never have done Thanksgiving early, like it has

647
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Speaker 8: always been an evening thing, not a but I've heard

648
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Speaker 8: of like, yes, you started the day and then you

649
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Speaker 8: have leftovers for the second.

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Speaker 9: Round later in the evening.

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Speaker 8: I've never I've never celebrated Thanksgiving like that, but that

652
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 8: seems up my alley because I love leftovers and I

653
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 8: would just keep drinking the entire time, So it sounds

654
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Speaker 8: like right up my alley.

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Speaker 6: So I and I thought about this. I brought up

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Speaker 6: so right now.

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Speaker 3: In Wisconsin, back where I'm from, Aaron, it's hunting season

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Speaker 3: where you can hunt deer with a gun, and it's

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Speaker 3: a it's a it's a tradition throughout the years. It's

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Speaker 3: foreign to a lot of people, including Manzi. But what

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Speaker 3: people would do also is they would hunt during the day.

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Speaker 3: To Manti's point of having a dinner at night. They'd

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Speaker 3: be out in the fields during the day for Thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: and then they'd come in as it gets dark at

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Speaker 3: around three or four o'clock and then you would have

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving meal. But for us, we would have it earlier.

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Speaker 3: It allowed us to go to the other side of

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Speaker 3: the family later on in the day.

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Speaker 6: You could go to two places. So that's why we

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Speaker 6: had it early.

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Speaker 8: I literally just hunt my next drink, you know what

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Speaker 8: I'm saying, And that's what I'm doing. But uh yeah, guys,

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Speaker 8: you just talked to Chris Purfett, who was at the game.

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Speaker 9: How exciting for him. He had told me he was

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Speaker 9: going to get.

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Speaker 8: His mom that jersey, So I'm glad he was able

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Speaker 8: to actually do it. Packers defeated the Lions thirty one

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Speaker 8: to twenty four.

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Speaker 9: That first touchdown, guys, I don't know what a I

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Speaker 9: don't know what is declared a touchdown anymore. I really don't,

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Speaker 9: you know.

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Speaker 4: I thought I was crazy on that. No, I don't

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Speaker 4: know anyone the second.

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Speaker 8: Foot down, they're saying that that that he caught it

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Speaker 8: like the first foot came down, but it's like the

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Speaker 8: ball is barely touching his hand at that point.

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Speaker 9: How can you declare he has control?

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Speaker 8: But that's what they're saying that that first step was

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Speaker 8: in and it made no sense to me.

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Speaker 5: And who was the other one? Was it Aj Brown

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Speaker 5: last week that made the catch? The foot never got planted,

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Speaker 5: but he hit the pileon And I was like, how

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Speaker 5: is that not a touchdown?

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Speaker 4: I know you have to have yes too, yes, but

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Speaker 4: it hit the pile on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So like if a guy, I don't know, that

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Speaker 5: one was weird, yeah, because it was like he had

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Speaker 5: he clearly had control and across the goal line.

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Speaker 4: Blandino right away was like, no, it's a touchdown. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: all right, dude, if you say so.

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Speaker 3: But this this may sound like really stupid and simplistic.

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Speaker 3: I just think you need better refs, like like we

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Speaker 3: talk about like all these different cameras and like we

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Speaker 3: need it. Oh like look, they didn't even to this point,

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Speaker 3: they didn't even overturn it.

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Speaker 6: No, just get better refs.

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Speaker 9: Even I think Tom Brady's like, that's not a.

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Speaker 3: Catch, make it, make a Commiitiating has been so bad,

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Speaker 3: so bad, and it's so inconsistent. And I know there's

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Speaker 3: such a topic of like being a full time job,

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Speaker 3: like maybe it's about that time to do so, and

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Speaker 3: so you're not saying like here's so and so he's

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Speaker 3: a middle school teacher during the week. But they might be better, yes,

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Speaker 3: Like oh, just like allow them to focus on the job.

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Speaker 3: Like there's just a like if replay isn't gonna save them,

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Speaker 3: then they got to do better.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, absolutely, and uh yes.

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Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes about to start in his first Thanksgiving game

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Speaker 8: and Dallas is the Chiefs taking on the Cowboys.

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Speaker 9: Quickly. Here, cold quarterback.

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Speaker 8: Daniel Jones did so for a fracture in his fibula,

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Speaker 8: but apparently he's going to play through it For Week

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Speaker 8: thirteen against the Texans. The Bears have activated cornerbacks Kyler

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Speaker 8: Gordon and Jalen Johnson from injured reserve.

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Speaker 9: They face Philadelphia tomorrow, which, by.

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Speaker 8: The way, Eagles wide receiver Davante Smith off the injury report,

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Speaker 8: so he should be good to go as well. When

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Speaker 8: it comes to the NBA, the Warriors anticipate Steph Curry

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Speaker 3: dan Byer. Cowboys and Chiefs underway. It's all next here

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Speaker 3: fans may need to take a step outside. Aaron Dak

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Speaker 3: Prescott picked off on his first possession of the game

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Speaker 3: for the Cowboys. Chiefs turned it into some points. Patrick

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Speaker 3: Mahomes touchdown pass to Rashid Rice, Rice doing much of

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Speaker 3: the work, or at least the blockers that were out

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Speaker 3: in front of him. So it's seven to nothing just

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Speaker 3: two minutes in in favor of the Chiefs over the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: A tough way to go for Dallas, who had all

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Speaker 3: that momentum following the win against the Eagles. This kind

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Speaker 3: of started out like their game against the Eagles last

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Speaker 3: week when they spotted them twenty one points.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's just I'm gonna be worried because

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Speaker 5: they did the exact same thing last week. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: Deck took a pretty hard hit, threw it up and

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Speaker 5: got picked. So we'll see, we'll see. You know, we

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Speaker 5: talked a little bit about this game Chiefs. I don't

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Speaker 5: think either of us are sold that there's a magic

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Speaker 5: turnaround coming around, even after the win against the Colts.

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Speaker 5: I think we both like Dallas, or at least at

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Speaker 5: the minimum. They're a good watch. I enjoy watching them,

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Speaker 5: But you know, Chiefs win this one. It's two wins

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Speaker 5: in five games, and maybe they do have some momentum

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Speaker 5: to two wins in five days. I think I just

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Speaker 5: said five games, but two wins in five days and

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Speaker 5: some real momentum and going into the final stretch of

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Speaker 5: the year.

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Speaker 3: Are you one of those people who like believes like

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Speaker 3: if Kansas City gets in the tournament when we try

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Speaker 3: to sound cool about the playoffs, that like it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be the same old Kansas City or you still have questions.

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Speaker 4: No, I have questions.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's it's funny.

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Speaker 5: I'm a big believer in like, I think that's the

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Speaker 5: most overrated Like, well, you just you can't let him in.

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Speaker 5: It's like I remember the Super Bowl last year. Everyone's like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you just can't bet against Kansas City. And

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Speaker 5: I actually, and there's tape of me saying this. I said,

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Speaker 5: I think Philly wins, and I think Philly wins by

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Speaker 5: double figures. And I said, Philly is literally better at

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Speaker 5: every position group except for quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I said, I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 5: There's no mystique when you're that much better at every

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Speaker 5: other spot on the field.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, I think it's matchup based. I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't think there's like any teams that I feel

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Speaker 5: like they have zero percent chance against off the top

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Speaker 5: of my head in the AFC. But I don't think

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Speaker 5: that it's if they just get into the field. I

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Speaker 5: mean no, no, I think this is the weakest version

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Speaker 5: of them that we've maybe seen since Mahome took over

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Speaker 5: at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: out on this friends giving Mancy Bilanos is here. Ian

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Speaker 3: Roddie's our executive producer, Ryan Smith, our technical producer. We

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Speaker 3: may be checking in from Motown as the Packers got

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Speaker 3: that huge win over the Lions. Lions right now on

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Speaker 3: the outside looking in Green Bay in a nice little spot,

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Speaker 3: that tie that they had against the Cowboys this year.

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Speaker 3: I know they would have rather have had the victory,

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Speaker 3: but a loss would have put them further back. So

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Speaker 3: that eight three to one record right now has Green

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Speaker 3: Bay in a nice little spot. They just have to

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Speaker 3: overtake those Bears right now in the NFC North.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when we talked about this earlier in the show

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Speaker 5: is listen. Two things can be true. The Bears are

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Speaker 5: a very nice story and the Packers are a tie

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Speaker 5: against the Dallas Cowboys away from being tied with them

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Speaker 5: for first place in that division, and both those those

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Speaker 5: two teams have yet to play each other, which means, obviously,

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Speaker 5: do some simple math, it means they'll play twice down

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Speaker 5: the stretch. So love the Bears story. I'm not trying

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Speaker 5: to minimize it. But a lot of wins against bad

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Speaker 5: opponents and now Green Bay coming on strong and like

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Speaker 5: I said, tied in the lost column. And again they'd

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Speaker 5: be tied out right if it wasn't for the tie

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Speaker 5: in Dallas early on in the season.

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Speaker 3: All Right, you hit Aaron up at Aaron underscore Torres,

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Speaker 3: you can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Joining

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Speaker 3: us now at the friends giving door. Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 3: wide receiver Christian Watson joins us. Christian, how does this

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Speaker 3: How do this offense get clicking on all cylinders like

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Speaker 3: it did today? How did you guys get it going

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Speaker 3: offensively against Detroit?

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Speaker 12: I thought we've had the right mentality. I mean, I

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Speaker 12: feel like we had that aggressive mindset going into this game.

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Speaker 12: We knew it was going to be a dog fight,

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Speaker 12: and we knew that we were gonna have to, you know,

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Speaker 12: be aggressive to get it done. So I think we

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Speaker 12: came in with the right mentality and you know we

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Speaker 12: were able to execute, you know, enough to go out

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Speaker 12: there and you know, to show it.

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Speaker 4: Christian.

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Speaker 5: It's a long season, but you guys are on a

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Speaker 5: three game winning streak. There's a team frankly sort of

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Speaker 5: ahead of you in the divisional standings but not really,

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Speaker 5: but you get to play them twice going forward. Just

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Speaker 5: big picture, long season, but feels like you guys are

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Speaker 5: trending in the right direction and playing your best football.

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Speaker 4: Do you guys feel the same way?

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, no, one undred percent. I mean we know

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Speaker 11: these next couple of weeks, you know, super important for

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Speaker 11: you know, our goals and our aspiration of the season.

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Speaker 11: So I mean we've got to keep on chucking, find

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Speaker 11: a way to go, want to know, every weekend, you know,

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Speaker 11: just keep building, getting a little bit better every week.

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Speaker 11: I feel like we're going to be in a good spot.

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Speaker 3: I know we're a little tight on time, but just

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Speaker 3: quickly to down Tavian Wicks get both feed in on

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Speaker 3: that first touchdown. Oh yeah, that's a Thanksgiving miracle, Christian.

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Speaker 6: I have to say that's a Thanksgiving miracle.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you guys put it together today

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Speaker 3: and had a heck of an effort and can't wait

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Speaker 3: to see more of what the Green Bay Packers have

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Speaker 3: coming down the home stretch here.

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Speaker 6: Congrats on the win today.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 11: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Christian Watson, green Bay Packers wide Receiver. Unfortunately we're a

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Speaker 3: little tight on time there. Couldn't get more with Christian,

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Speaker 3: but I'm glad he stopped by. Andy brought some bars.

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Speaker 3: That was great. He's Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Bayer. The

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