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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: Hell that for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm for it.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy. You want to be happy for dake Edo State?

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Speaker 2: Is that woo woof?

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Speaker 4: And then and Tye, welcome back to the salid verbal

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Speaker 4: boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: My name's type Rant.

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Speaker 4: That guy there, Dan Rubinstein, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 3: Good sir, what is new? Good sir? Like I've returned

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Speaker 3: to your estate in nineteen oh eight England. I'm good,

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Speaker 3: I'm great, Ty, the sun is out. We get to

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Speaker 3: talk another team today. I'm about to get my teeth cleaned.

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Speaker 3: So what's what's better than that?

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Speaker 4: Ty?

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Speaker 3: Tennessee and a dentist?

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Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to throw you a little bit every episode,

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a curveball.

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Speaker 4: But I'm here for it. I'm okay with it. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna have Austin Price on from vauquest dot com momentarily

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Speaker 4: to talk through all things Tennessee. We put out a

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Speaker 4: call last week on social media asking folks who should

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Speaker 4: we bring on to talk Tennessee. We've got a lot

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Speaker 4: of great folks. Decided to reach out to Austin from

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Speaker 4: Vauquest and bring him on. So we're excited about that.

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Speaker 4: I have a lot of questions about Tennessee. I know

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Speaker 4: you do as well. Tennessee is in a really interesting spot.

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Speaker 4: We talked about Penn State on the last episode. I

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Speaker 4: think Tennessee's got a little bit in common with Penn

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Speaker 4: State in that they're always good enough to get some

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Speaker 4: of that preseason hype, but as we've seen the last

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Speaker 4: couple seasons, not necessarily good enough to get over that

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Speaker 4: hump of Georgia and Alabama. I mean two years ago, yes,

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Speaker 4: they beat Alabama, but it's been this ongoing struggle to

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Speaker 4: the SEC. And I'm curious to get Austin's take on

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Speaker 4: where Tennessee stands now. What Hypel's philosophy is to try

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Speaker 4: How do you narrow the gap between them and I

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Speaker 4: guess Georgia. At this point, there's just so much fascination

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Speaker 4: Nico is the new quarterback, just so much that we

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Speaker 3: Really appreciate, and I think you're right, I really appreciate

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Speaker 3: and I'll mention this to us, and how much of

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Speaker 3: a great TV show Tennessee is even totally for that matter,

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Speaker 3: like Tennessee is another one of those like the most

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Speaker 3: the weird coaches that have come through, the weird stories,

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Speaker 3: the beautiful traditions, Like what what is Tennessee's end zone?

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Speaker 3: Like they just says Tennessee, No, no, no, it's a

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Speaker 3: it's a checkerboard, like, and so they just tid a

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Speaker 3: run out of the tunnel, yes, but through a giant

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Speaker 3: power tea. Yeah, d by a dog led by a

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Speaker 3: dog led by a coon hound. That's right, yes, smokey,

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Speaker 3: it's it's just And so they have fights on like

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Speaker 3: well it's a bluegrass song from the late sixties that

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Speaker 3: State has like the lowest rent East Bay ass mascot. Right,

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Speaker 3: It's just like all these schools spend so much money

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Speaker 3: and it's great.

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Speaker 4: And that song was etched into my brain for an eternity,

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Speaker 3: But it's just like, oh, they tailgate in a parking lot, well,

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Speaker 3: There's an official name for it. They give away koozies.

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Speaker 3: It's great. It's all great to me. And so yeah,

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Speaker 4: Austin Price from volquest dot com. Austin, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great, guys.

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Speaker 4: You we're doing well. Yeah, thanks for taking time. Tennessee's

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Speaker 2: Well, for several years, it was back coaching hires, bad

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Speaker 2: You know, niko Y al Maliaba has a ton of

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Speaker 4: Four You mentioned Nico. Obviously a ton of hype around

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Speaker 2: In your opinion, Yeah, if you talk to anybody over there,

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Speaker 2: To this point, he's at the one starting in style.

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Speaker 2: When the Centers Bowl performed a well, could perform better.

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Speaker 2: I think what you see with Nico is is you know,

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Speaker 3: One of the really fun things about Tennessee two years

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Speaker 3: Right that, there was chaos, There was up and downs.

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Speaker 3: a very good way? Because I think that's what they need,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the penalties are always kind

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Speaker 2: you can be more exciting this year with the vertical

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Speaker 3: What's interesting now, obviously, and what everybody's sort of thinking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's looking for kids that fit kind

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Speaker 2: He's just Josh Hipel, the same guy that grew up

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Speaker 4: From your vantage point, how big is that gap between

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Speaker 2: I think they're gaining on them now. As far as

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, Tennessee again, I think is gaining

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Speaker 2: And I know they didn't didn't play for it last year.

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Speaker 3: Sure, And you know, speaking of last year, and I

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Speaker 2: against NC State week two on the neutral side game

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00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 2: or do they save that more for like, Okay, we've

433
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 2: got to beat Alabama, we'll run in. So like, I

434
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of questions to be answered just

435
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 2: about kind of like where they can get to from

436
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 2: a running standpoint, because again they've they've the misnomber is

437
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: that hype throws it around every play. This isn't the

438
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 2: funn of gun. This this isn't Steve Spurrier. They do

439
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 2: throw it a ton, but man, they're pretty ballanced when

440
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 2: you look at the numbers, and that's not just a

441
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 2: last year thing, that's an every year thing. They just

442
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 2: happened to lead with the run running Game last year

443
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 2: instead of it being kind of the nice it became

444
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 2: Batman last year. Other years the running games, Rob and

445
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 2: Mike Crazier. Is this year's schedule pretty great all things considered. Yeah,

446
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 2: they don't play no Texas, Noel Miss, no LSU like

447
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 2: no missoo. It's a pretty great slate, especially home road splits. Yes,

448
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: yeah they don't. It's weird. Okay. They started the Chattanooga

449
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: you know whatever, then neutral side game for NCAA State,

450
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: then another lesser game, then on the road at Oklahoma,

451
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 2: bye week, on the road in Arkansas. So your first

452
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: meaningful home game is it till Florida coming to town

453
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: in mid October. Yeah, but you don't really have this

454
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 2: like Murderer's row, right, Like you kind of have little

455
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: little breaks like you might have back to back, like

456
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 2: they'll play Florida and Alabama back to back, but both

457
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: those games are here, you know, So, I mean like

458
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: it is positioned well. Whereas if Tennessee can beat in

459
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 2: CEA State and beat Oklahoma at that point they're going

460
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 2: into the bye week four and oh before they play Arkansas.

461
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: You feel probably pretty good against against an Arkansas team

462
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: that Sam Pivans on the hot seat. We'll sell you

463
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 2: win now one. Then it's the old arche nemesis for it.

464
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: But you get them at home. If they were to

465
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 2: somehow be undefeated playing Alabama, this place will be again

466
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 2: a powder gig, much like it was when Tennessee was

467
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 2: undefeated playing Alabama two years ago, but again got to

468
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: get through NC State. That's a sneaky game game Tennessee

469
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: could lose with NCC ring and a bunch of transfers.

470
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 2: What are they right? Are they going to mess and

471
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: be great or are they not? And you know that's

472
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: a sneaky game for Tennessee early in the year. And

473
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: then again Oklahoma Alvinzilane not very good third quarterback Jackson

474
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: Arnold's a pretty good talent. It's like Niko. So you know,

475
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: what do those games look like in September.

476
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Speaker 3: To you when you look at the various position groups

477
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 3: on this Tennessee team. And this isn't intended to be

478
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: like a season preview episode, but the difference against this

479
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: schedule between say eight and nine wins and ten and

480
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: eleven wins, is there a position group They're like, Okay,

481
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 3: if these guys click. That's the difference. You know, that's

482
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: a two win difference potentially.

483
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: I think it's running back on offense, okay, and defense.

484
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: I would just go the secondary. You know, you have

485
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: a lot of new faces back there, both at corner

486
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 2: and at safety, and so what does that group look like? Right?

487
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: I mean you lost, you know, to graduation, you lost

488
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: Jayalen McCullough, who had started a record number of games

489
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 2: for you. I mean, like, you know, just played a

490
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 2: gross amount of snaps. You know, at corner, you lose

491
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys that have played some football for you.

492
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: But I think they're more Ah lettiget corner, Jermal McCoy,

493
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: Ricky Gibson. I think are two fantastic guys out on

494
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: the edge. You know, Jordan Thomas has got a lot

495
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: of hope at at Nickel, but I'm gonna tell you

496
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: right now, he better stay healthy. He's been injury you know,

497
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: nicked up a lot. If he's an injury prone, if

498
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: he gets sticked up, bout Carter, a true freshman from

499
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: East Tennessee. Is is a guy guy and if he

500
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: gets in there, you know, George Dominsky get Wally pipped

501
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: in or hurry and then at safety, you know, what

502
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 2: does Tennessee look like back there? Be interested guta see

503
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: where Tim Banks wants to take that safety position, So

504
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: I would go running back on offense and in the

505
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: secondary on defense.

506
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 3: And we're now sort of in May, the final portal

507
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 3: window has closed and talking about new faces and a

508
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 3: lot of young guys who were either in the rotation

509
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 3: or waiting their turn. Internally, how is the portal season

510
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: looked at? Were there guys that they were surprised not

511
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: to get, Guys that they were surprised to see enter

512
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 3: the portal? Are they happy with where the roster stands

513
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: after you know, springball and you know portal ins and outs.

514
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: What's the state of that.

515
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: Could be happier? I mean, when you when you don't

516
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: even like really look at anybody in the spring window,

517
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: you feel pretty good about where your roster's at. Tennessee

518
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: lost a couple of guys after spring. Elijah Herring went

519
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: to Memphis and then Christian Conyers yet to commit anywhere.

520
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: But I mean Tennessee feels really good about where they're

521
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: at on their roster. You know what they have love

522
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: to have added a running back maybe, but like That's

523
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: one of those situations where they weren't just going to

524
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: add a body to add a body, because then that

525
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: stunts your younger guys and to get one of the

526
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 2: upper echelon guys, the nil money was going to be

527
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 2: more than they want to pay for that position. Right.

528
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: They trying to look at things like an NFL thing

529
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: like what what what's the roster value on an offensive

530
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: tackle versus a running back? Right, Like, the value is

531
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: into offensive tackle, not the running back. So testse, he's

532
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: not gonna put a ton of money into, you know,

533
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: transfer kid that they don't know except for a couple

534
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: of short, you know, conversations with on the phone. They

535
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: just didn't feel like that was the route to go.

536
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: And so they feel really good about what they added

537
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: out of the portal, both at tied in, you know,

538
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: with the kid from Notre Dame, Holden Stags and kid

539
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: from Alabama. And then they love getting lance heard from

540
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: l s U at offensive tackle. They like what they

541
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: added in the secondary with McCoy and again I think

542
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 2: this is a team and then a roster that he

543
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: likes a lot.

544
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: How are things by the way, you alluded to nil

545
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: stuff and valuing or not valuing players. Tennessee was the

546
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 3: school a couple of years ago during Nico's recruitment that

547
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: everybody was, you know, had that magnifying glass, had you know,

548
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: everybody's looking at Tennessee as like, oh man, what is

549
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: what are the balls going to do moving forward? What

550
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 3: does this mean for the rest of the sport? Are

551
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: they setting market value? And things have sort of quieted

552
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: down from you know, an attention standpoint on Tennessee. How

553
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: are things behind the scenes in terms of collectives, in

554
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: terms of you know, alignment with coaching staff and you

555
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: know guys in the front office. Is everybody on the

556
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 3: same page. Are things moving in a in a cohesive

557
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: direction at Tennessee?

558
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: Yea. I think Tennessee and their collective have never been

559
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: in better lockstep than that right now now. I mean

560
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: you're right. When when all that happened with Nico, I

561
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: mean everybody went into panning mode, especially those traditionals. Oh

562
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: that's just want to run the sport? All interesting? I

563
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: think some of it run of the sport, but it's

564
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: more so you can transfer a Bajillia Dons if you

565
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: want to. That to me is way more of a

566
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: deal then the kid's making money. Like I think that

567
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: you know, and you're right, that has settled back down.

568
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: But I think it's settled back down because nobody knows numbers. No,

569
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: there's no transparency. Everybody knows what numbers. What numbers do

570
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: they know? They know Nico's numbers, and they knew Jayden

571
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: reshot his number at Florida that got kind of pulled

572
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: the rug out pulled. And why do they know both

573
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: because the same the same lawyer in California did both

574
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: contracts and he leaked it out there trying to be

575
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 2: the new Drew Rosenhouse. N I am. Other than that,

576
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: it's all I kind of a big game with you know,

577
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: a big game of chicken, that's what I call it.

578
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: And you don't want to end up being biff into

579
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: manure pile at the end, right when you're here or

580
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: you're the or you're or you're the program. You don't

581
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: want to be biff. Like you don't want to be

582
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: spitting manure out your mouth, you know, at the end.

583
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 2: And so like that's kind of where this thing's at.

584
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: And until there's full transparency and everybody knows what everybody

585
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: else is getting, it'll be a constant game of well,

586
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: school X has offered me one point two million, Well,

587
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: we're only going to offer you three hundred and fifty

588
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: out and then the kid comes from three hundred fifty downs, right,

589
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: exactly you have one two million? Or did he just

590
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: really want to play at school acts?

591
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Right?

592
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a small world. You can find out those numbers.

593
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Austin, we set this episode up by saying, will

594
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 4: it ever happen for Josh Hipel? When I say that

595
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: to you, what does it mean to you? What is

596
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 4: it in this case? What needs to happen for Tennessee

597
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 4: for you to feel like, as somebody who covers the

598
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 4: team so closely, like they are truly making progress, they

599
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: are taking a big step forward and going to that

600
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 4: next level.

601
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: It for me is to get back to Atlanta, which

602
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: means you're the top two in the conference and in

603
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: the current model. If Tennessee had been playing under the

604
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: current model that they'll play under this fall two years ago,

605
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: Tennessee would have rematched against Georgia and Atlanta. Instead, it

606
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: was you know, the divisions, and Tennessee didn't. So yes,

607
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: I think it can happen. I think Tenesse can get

608
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: back to Atlanta, and then at that point, you're playing

609
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: with house money in a lot of ways. I mean,

610
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: Tennessee's kind of, you know, been in the wilderness for

611
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: so long. They've not been to Atlanta since two thousand

612
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: and eight or sorry, two thousand and seven. Two thousand

613
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: and eight was going to fill with a fire, and

614
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: so it's been a while, and uh, you know, but

615
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: they've kind of found a little bit of a spark

616
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 2: here and the fires kind of you know, it's kind

617
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: of building. So I do think they can get there.

618
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: Now it's it a national title. I don't know, that's

619
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: you have to have so many things go your way

620
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: to go win a national title. Tennessee one one ninety

621
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: eight and that was kind of a team of destiny

622
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: and and some things go its way and some really

623
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: cool leaders on that in that team. But you know,

624
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: I think it for me is just getting back to Atlanta.

625
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: And if you get back to Atlanta, you're going to

626
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: be in the playoff and at that point, again house money, right,

627
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: So you know, for me, yes, they can get to

628
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: the playoff. I think that should be the expectation this year.

629
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: To me, it should be the expectation going forward because

630
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: I think you're you're at a part or point in

631
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: your program where you kind of come out of the wilderness,

632
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: so to speak, and you like what you're doing. You've

633
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: got a nice foundation, You've got a guy you believe

634
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: it in Josh Heipel. You know, it's a mad man

635
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: that you live in a Danny White. And so this

636
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: is a program that's kind of turned the right direction

637
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: where it just a couple of years ago. Man, it

638
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: seemed like the lights were out and there was no

639
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: power to be turned back on.

640
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: This isn't your first rodeo covering Tennessee. I mean, you

641
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: know this program inside out. Just speaking personally, what is

642
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: your excitement level scale of one to ten with this

643
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: version of Tennessee, Because there's a lot that I think

644
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: you've got to be excited about.

645
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I've watched a lot of bad

646
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: football over the years, and so like you know, I

647
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: mean two years ago was fun. I Mean everybody says, look,

648
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: you know, go to be impartial. You're right, and I

649
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: can call a spade a state. I went to Tennessee.

650
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: But I can say, you know, they suck in this

651
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: area or they suck in that area. But at the

652
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: same time, you know, build and enjoy. Hey man, that

653
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: was a lot more fun to cover, right, you know,

654
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: even if they lose, if it's a good football game.

655
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: You know, a many times then I watched Tennessee get

656
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: you know, their brain speed in over the last fifteen years,

657
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: this score, that school work. You know, I thought some

658
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: of the worst work Tennessee would would run up against

659
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: one of the lesser teams from the West on their

660
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: peak seats Arkansas, Missippi State is miss Evy State was

661
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: terrible those last two years. This year they're playing Tennessee.

662
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: They're unbelievable and so like like you've seen that happen.

663
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: So I think just to see Tennessee be competitive, get

664
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: back to you know, playing in some great atmospheres, being

665
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 2: in some big games, winning some big games, you know,

666
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: it makes the job a lot more fun. It makes

667
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: the fan base a lot more fun to deal with.

668
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, don't get me wrong, they're

669
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: a Porsche of the fan base. And that's every fan base.

670
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: No matter how much you win, you didn't win by enough.

671
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: So you know, I do think that it's it's a

672
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: lot more fun for everybody involved with Tennessee being back

673
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: to you know, I won't say it wasn't the mid nineties,

674
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: but being back to being developant, and you know, it's

675
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: a good feeling for everybody around Knoxville.

676
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: It's it's a good feeling also when you have a

677
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: clear quarterback of the future for at least the next

678
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: couple of seasons, and I had a lot of schools

679
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: can say that. But when you look to this year,

680
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: next year, the year after, and we're in Mace, this

681
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: is the recruiting season. Are people happy with where Tennessee

682
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: is as a talent acquirer? Is the recruiting momentum real?

683
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: They're they've been sort of top fifteen ish, top twelve

684
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: ish the last couple of years nationally. Do you believe

685
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: that's enough to sort of keep them in that top

686
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: three four in the SEC conversation? Or is more needed it.

687
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: Is because you can cherry pick the rest with transfers.

688
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 2: You know, I think the momentum is really there with

689
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: this twenty five group. Tennessee's deep in it. With David Sanders'

690
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: top all its suplyman in the country out of Charlotte.

691
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: You know, that's a Tennessee of Higo state battle. They've

692
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: got their quote, their quote unquote next Nico as far

693
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: as you know this class, and that's George McIntyre, one

694
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: of the top quarterbacks in the country out of Nashville.

695
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: They've got a couple of nice wide receivers committed, They're

696
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: in on a couple other really nice offensive linemen. They're

697
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: built it out with some nice guys in the secondary.

698
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: They're going to continue to you know, find their way

699
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: on the defensive line. But again, this is a defensive

700
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: line on this current team that's really good and you know,

701
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: should you know, be a nice example center for Rodney

702
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: Garner and everybody when he goes to recruiting, you know,

703
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: spots for next year. So again, I do think that

704
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: they've done a nice job in recruiting. Could they do better,

705
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: sure they could, but I think on the whole they've

706
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: done it well enough to where this roster is. To me,

707
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: it's the best that wrought this roster's band and probably

708
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: fifteen plus years. I mean, when you look at the

709
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: overall everything, Tennessee is really deep in some spots, and

710
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: it also is good to see.

711
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: His name is Austin Price. You can find his work

712
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 4: out at vaulquest dot com. Austin will get you out

713
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: of here on this. What's the state of your golf

714
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: game right now? I understand you're not a golfer. What

715
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: give us the scouting report?

716
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: What's going on?

717
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: Not bad?

718
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: You know. I've been taking lessons from Brad Rose, who

719
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: teaches Scott Stallings on the PGA Tour. Yeah, that's done

720
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: a really nice job with picking my grip a little bit.

721
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: And I've got my driver under control, and it's been

722
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: and uh, it's been steady. You know when you when

723
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: you find it's amazing when you find the fairway more,

724
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: how much better you play works? Right, So yeah, he

725
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: deserves a ton of credit for that. And uh, you know,

726
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: so my golf game is uh, you know, steadily improving

727
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: and and getting back to where it used to be

728
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: kind of like Tennessee.

729
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to get it in now, be paralleling

730
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 4: before the season gets here, because then it's all bets

731
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 4: are off, right.

732
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's all bets are off on the weekends the

733
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: week though I don't appear to speak out during the week.

734
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 3: This is what happens when you live in a warm

735
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: weather place. Time. I know your schedule. We're both in

736
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: cold weather places. But yeah, he's got some some advantages there.

737
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: Beautiful.

738
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 4: Well, best of luck to you and your golf game,

739
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 4: and thank you again for your fine reporting on Tennessee.

740
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 4: We'll make sure we touch base soon Austin Price again

741
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 4: check him out vauquest dot com. Thank you for your time, sir.

742
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Guys, Thank you all right, Dan.

743
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: There you go Austin Price volquest dot Com going out

744
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 4: on a golf note there, which you know I appreciate

745
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: of course. Talked to him a little bit before the interview.

746
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: Sounds like he's quite the golfer. So, uh, maybe if

747
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 4: I'm in that neck of the woods, will have to

748
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: arrange a an eighteen whole shootout.

749
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh absolutely is Is there Penn State Tennessee

750
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: connective tissue? Was there like an outback bowl or anything recently?

751
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look this up, but yeah, I.

752
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: Me on the spot.

753
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: I feel like there is. I can't think of it

754
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: without having the papers in front of me.

755
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: I know, I understand you're not mister Winzipedia or whatever. Yeah, no,

756
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: it's I can appreciate you. Just listening to Austin's voice

757
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: that and I don't know if we specifically went to

758
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: this area, but like there's like weird stability right now

759
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: with Tennessee that it seems people appreciate Josh Hypel and

760
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: like the conversation is much more around, like will the

761
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 3: offensive line build up some depth and star power? He

762
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: mentioned the LSU transfer, who I think is going to

763
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: start it at left tackle, and you know they might

764
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: have the number one pick and this year's draft and

765
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: it's what James Pierce coming on off the edge. I

766
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: refuse to pronounce their quarterback's last name until I'm absolutely

767
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 3: forced to in this moment. I just wanted to give

768
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: you that platform.

769
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 4: Dan, I'm not kidding you. Thankfully I did not have

770
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 4: to say it during that interview. And you know my

771
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 4: struggles with name pronunciations. I'm not absolving myself of any

772
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: sins on that horse. I practiced nico Ia Maliava a

773
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: million times. My wife heard me earlier and said, what's

774
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 4: going on over there? What is this you are saying?

775
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: Yeah nico eyah me, uh, there is Ea Maliava.

776
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: There you go. Thank you.

777
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: You're just gonna have to it's gonna have to be effortless,

778
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: effortless during the season.

779
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: Ya maliava, Ea Maliava.

780
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I have man.

781
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: Expelling in front of me a thousand times.

782
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: I just sent it to you and.

783
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: I still screw it up?

784
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: How many times this season? Okay, So if Chris Fowler

785
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: and kirkerb Street are calling a game, or if anybody

786
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 3: is calling a game, here's a great little fantasy thing preview.

787
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: I don't knowf we're doing it this year, but this

788
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 3: is mid May. Nico played volleyball in high school. Standout volleyball,

789
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: quaranteed early round fantasy thing pick and like legit, very

790
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 3: very good. Like t Mac another person who played volleyball

791
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: and has a difficult last name for me personally. No,

792
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: it's not the last name, it's the first name. The

793
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 3: first name with T Mac. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna get

794
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: a lot of that. You need a lot of played

795
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: high level volleyball. I think it was on the national

796
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: team or like the national select team or something like

797
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: that in high school. So a super impressive athlete. And

798
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: again stability with Tennessee. I don't know if they're going

799
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: to win eleven games this year or if they'll ever

800
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: win eleven games in the new look SEC. It might

801
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 3: not matter with a twelve team playoff, but to go

802
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 3: from you know, Philip Fulmer being ousted and yet somehow

803
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: winning a power struggle to eventually become the ad and

804
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: was not good as an AD, and Butch Jones with

805
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: Champions of Life, and Derek Dooley was shower discipline and

806
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: Jeremy Pruitt and like everything that has happened behind the

807
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: scenes at Tennessee to just like, yeah, we hope we

808
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: can find a running back, Like it's got to be

809
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: such a welcome relief.

810
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

811
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: And I also think, as with Penn State, the expanded

812
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: Playoff is a bit of a welcome relief totally. Not

813
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: having a divisional structure in your very difficult conference is

814
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: also a welcome relief if you're Tennessee. Tennessee is another

815
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: one of these teams that I think stands to benefit

816
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 4: greatly from the expanded Playoff. Those two losses, if they

817
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 4: are like this year, they're on the schedule. Georgia won't

818
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: be on every year. But regardless, the value of a

819
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: loss to Alabama and Georgia, provided it's not an absolute thrashing,

820
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: is a lot higher than it used to be because

821
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 4: as long as you don't get embarrassed, as long as

822
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: you are seemingly playing.

823
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: A high level of football.

824
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: Go ten and two, you're probably in the playoff if

825
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: you're in one of these power conferences that benefits Tennessee

826
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 4: and Penn States and teams like them all across the country. So,

827
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 4: at the risk of saying the same thing I said

828
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 4: a week ago or an episode ago, I have to

829
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: imagine that is rather energizing for the Tennessee football program

830
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 4: to know that, yeah, you can drop a few games

831
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 4: here and there against some of these really powerful teams

832
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: and like Georgia and still have a pretty good shot

833
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 4: to get into that tournament and make a run.

834
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: And with the number of teams in the like up

835
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: whatever you want to consider to be the upper half

836
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: of the SEC this year or in any given year,

837
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: there is going to be a team each year that

838
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: weirdly misses a bunch of contenders. And I don't know

839
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 3: if that's what we consider, you know, with a schedule

840
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: that has Alabama and Georgia. But we talked about this

841
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: in the interview a little bit. We're just like no

842
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 3: lsu Ole, miss No Texas A and m no Miszoo.

843
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: It's pretty great this schedule. No Texas was the other one. Yeah,

844
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: that Tennessee misses this year, and so I don't know

845
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: what it means for this year any year moving forward,

846
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: but you are going to get you know, that weird

847
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: annual schedule, and Tennessee doesn't have a particularly challenging I

848
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: think NC State is challenging, but it's neutral site, which

849
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: is why I say not particularly states going through its

850
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: own changes. They're like, it's pretty great. The only thing

851
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: I'm like a little bit sad about is like, I

852
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 3: don't know, I've just always come to expect Tennessee South

853
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 3: Carolina because a game that happens every year, and we

854
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 3: don't get that this year, and I'm always gonna remember.

855
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: I think it was a al Seon Jeffrey who Lane

856
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: Kiffin was referring to as like learning a pump gas

857
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: at South Carolina. They're like, that's the only thing you

858
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: know that's just like, oh man, this is like the

859
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: second or third tier type like bad blood matchup that

860
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Speaker 3: I come to expect every year. We just don't get

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Speaker 3: it this year. So that's the only down part. But otherwise,

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Speaker 3: now you gotta be pretty pumped if you're a Tennessee fan.

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Speaker 4: All things considered, well, hey, big thanks again to Austin

864
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 4: for making some time. It was busy week for him,

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Speaker 4: so we appreciate his time greatly, making us a little

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Speaker 4: bit smarter with all things Tennessee football for the year ahead.

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Speaker 4: We didn't really get a chance to dive too much

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Speaker 4: into news because there's not a whole lot of news

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00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 4: going on around college football. We can save some of

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00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: that perhaps for next week, where I think we're going

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Speaker 4: to continue talking about specific teams. But the only thing

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00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 4: I did want to bring up. Do you see Dabo's

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00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: quote about transfer portal?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we see it.

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00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 4: I guess this just happened. We didn't have a chance

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00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 4: to talk about it earlier in the week. Quote every

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Speaker 4: player is technically a transfer. We just signed a whole

878
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 4: class of guys transferring from high school. The best love

879
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: it is by This is in response to a question

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00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: on a program ACCPM in which they asked him about

881
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 4: taking zero transfers. It's the only non service academy Clemson

882
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Speaker 4: that took zero transfers for the twenty twenty four seasons.

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Speaker 4: So they asked Dabbo about it. He says it wasn't intentional.

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Speaker 4: They looked at some guys, but then there was the quote,

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00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 4: everyone is technically a transfer.

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Speaker 1: So there you go.

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Speaker 3: That's great, It's so good. And I'm going to echo

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Speaker 3: what I said before when we had that the story

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Speaker 3: of the caller to his the Colin Radio show, who

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00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: was weirdly given like four minutes of clean air if

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00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: you remember.

892
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 4: That would be a plant that had to be a plant.

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Speaker 2: I am.

894
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: I'm just so myza is. I'm so pro Dabbo right

895
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: now because of his commitment to the bit, like anybody

896
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Speaker 3: who is doing something that is from a humanity perspective,

897
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: victimless right that, Like I'm sure Clemson fans are not

898
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: happy and might feel like they are victims of Clemson's

899
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: negligence when it comes to roster construction. Fine, but that

900
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: Dabbo Sweeney says to himself, I'm dabbo flippin' Sweeney. And

901
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: that's the word he probably uses, flippin'. I'm dabble flippin' Sweeney.

902
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 3: I built national champions, I built playoff team four team

903
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: playoff teams, ACC champions, doing it my way, and I'll

904
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: be gosh darned if I'm gonna do it a different way.

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Speaker 3: And I don't fully blame him like in an ideal world, Yes,

906
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 3: you are somebody who evolves with the times, and you

907
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: are somebody who recognizes that you don't know everything and

908
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: that you are leaning on new ideas and new concepts

909
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: and whatever. But commitment to the bit is always going

910
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: to hold a very special place in my heart. And

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00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 3: nobody commits like our guy Dabbo.

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Speaker 4: This might be one of my other favorite stories in

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Speaker 4: college football, the fact that he's just going he's just

914
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: going with this.

915
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: Yes, he's just going with it.

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Speaker 4: What he said doesn't even really make sense.

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00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean, any of this works.

918
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Speaker 3: These are high school graduates. They're not transfers.

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00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: We're all just transferring in this life dance.

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00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: I know it's it's so good, And I hope that

921
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: Dabbo gets just from a selfish I don't care one

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00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: way or the other about Clemson success, but I hope

923
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 3: from just a selfish storyline standpoint, that Clemson sort of

924
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: stumbles into another national championship and Dabbo gets up on

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00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: the stage and just has the I told you so

926
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: look in his eyes, and it's going to infuriate so

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00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: many people. I used to like, I really couldn't wrap

928
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: my fingers around, wrap my hands around whatever, wrap my

929
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: brain around the Dabbo experience, but now that he is

930
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Speaker 3: us doing it whenever he wants, whenever he wants or

931
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Speaker 3: not doing what you know, I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: And if Clems goes nine to three every year, so

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Speaker 3: be it.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 4: Let's leave it there. We can talk more about Dabbo

936
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 4: on another episode. Big thanks again to our guest of

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Speaker 4: honor today, Austin Price from volquest dot com.

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