1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people. 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: about the people, the people have had a belly full 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: know you tried to do everything in the world to 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: going to happen. 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: And where do people like that go to share the 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: big line? 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: Mega media? 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 13 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: task and what is my purpose? If that answer is 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: to save my country, this country. 16 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: Will be saved. Here's your host, Stephen K. 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: Math. 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: It's Monday, thirty j Year of a Lord, twenty twenty five. 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Of course, the big beautiful bill is trying to get there, 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: trying to move this through the Senate today. Already kind 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: of revolt in the house. You got one group of 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: people saying, hey, it's cutting too much money, and another 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: saying it's not cutting enough. Clearly, the debt ceiling, the 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: five train dollars debt ceiling, is in this so that 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: gives you some indication of the direction of least of 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: some of the debt that we'll run up over the 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: next couple of years. We're going to get some details. 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: We're trying to get doctor Stephen. He's the chairman of 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: the Council of Economic Advisors, with which I would say, 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: along with Scott Bessant, the Secretary Treasury, and doctor Hessett 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: over at the National Economic Council, that Stephen Myron is 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: the third of the top three economic advisors to President Trump. 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I would toss in Peter and Navarre there on trade. 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: We're going to get him over do something a little different. 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: I think that other shows have done, which I've been 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: spending the afternoon talking to certain officials that the CBO, 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: and I think it is very important for the audience 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: to understand because Elon Musk is out and he's not 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: that I told you this was going to happen, but 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: he's out lighting up the President and lighting up MAGA 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: and claiming this time for a third party, and that 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: this is he calls it, I think, in all his maturity, 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: the porky pig Bill. He's going on about the spending, 44 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: hammering it, hammering it, and this is what galls me 45 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: about this. This was the guy that told the President 46 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: he was going to get two trillion dollars of waste 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: for an abuse because then he backed it off to 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: one tree. And this was on an annual basis. This 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: wasn't over ten years, this tree and dollars because we 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: asked him, made sure the question was asked very specifically, 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: and he said it over and over again at trellion dollars. 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I don't know, folks. 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: I know some of you fanboys said we got a 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: hundred sixty, but we haven't seen the hundred and sixty 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: bion dollars. What we do is have a nine billion 56 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: dollar decision, and all of that is programmatic. I haven't 57 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: seen any I haven't seen any anything specifically fraud and 58 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: abuse put forward from the beneicgount anywhere. So we're gonna 59 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: take this a little different tack. If you've got CBO 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: that has one set of scoring, the the the administration 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: has its own set of numbers, has its own financial forecasts. 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: It's a little more dynamic. And we've asked doctor Stephen 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Myron to join us. The Chairman of the Council of 64 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Economic advisors. Doctor Myron, thank you so much for joining 65 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: us today. Just you know, the CBO is running around 66 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: and saying this thing's going to add trains of dollars 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: to the debt and bigger deficits. You got Elon Musk 68 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: now has weight in and he's hammering the administration and 69 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: actually calling for a third party. You know, I spent 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: the afternoon talking at certain officials in the administration about 71 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: the models you guys are looking at and how you're 72 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: doing dynamic scoring and taking into account that the supply 73 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: side tax cuts nature of this a lot of the business, 74 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, elements you're bringing in on capital equipment. Can 75 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: you just walk the folks too, because the CBOs, I think, 76 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: saying you're gonna have one point eight percent GDP growth 77 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: IMF is a one point seven percent. Can you just 78 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: take a second and walk us through as you guys 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: look at it, how this thing rolls out, and what 80 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: do you think the right model people ought to be 81 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: focused on. Sure? 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 5: Sure, sure, So first of all, you know, look, thanks 83 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 5: for having me. It's great to be here. 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: Look, CBO does a really bad job. 85 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 5: Of incorporating economic growth as a result of tax provisions 86 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 5: that are strong incentives to increase production, right, And so 87 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 5: there's a number of incentives in the bill that are 88 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 5: really important. There's the full expensing on equipment and manufacturing 89 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 5: in R and D that are in new factories that 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 5: are huge incentives to invest. That means that companies get 91 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: huge tax rate offs if they build a factory. Companies 92 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 5: get huge tax rate offs if they add more equipment 93 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: to an existing factory. Right, it's really strong investment incentives. 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 5: And of course investment means more job, It means more 95 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 5: economic activity, it means more productive facity, it means more 96 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 5: manufacturing and national security as well, and that's super important. 97 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: Right. 98 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 5: There's also very strong incentives for more labor supply, things 99 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 5: like no taxes on tips or overtime tax benefits for seniors. 100 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: Right. These are very very what economists would. 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 5: Call elastic, but you should just think of as responsive 102 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 5: segments of the labor supply. These are folks that already 103 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 5: respond very well to increased economic incentives to work, and 104 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 5: providing tax benefits just increase their willingness to work, and 105 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 5: so that increases labor supply, which. 106 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: Again boosts the economy. 107 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: Better economic growth means more revenue because it means more 108 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 5: income that. 109 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: Gets taxed now. 110 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 5: In President Trump's first term, GDP growth was two point 111 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 5: eight percent until the pandemic, and of course it's difficult 112 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 5: to blame tax policy for the pandemic. 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: But two point eight percent. 114 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 5: GDP growth what we've got from the similar set of 115 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: policies also works out to about two point eight percent 116 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 5: GDP growth over the course of a decade. That alone 117 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 5: brings in four trillion dollars of additional revenue from better 118 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: economic growth due to this full suite, full suite of 119 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 5: economic policies, including the tax incentives and the One Big 120 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 5: Beautiful Bill, but also huge amounts of deregulation, cutting red 121 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 5: tapes that companies can invest in higher when they want 122 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 5: instead of begging Washington for permission spending years begging Washington. 123 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 5: And also the presence of energy abundance policies that lower 124 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 5: gas prices put more money in consumers pockets every month, 125 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 5: and also create better ability to reshore manufacturing, better ability 126 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 5: to build factories in manufacturing United States because energy goes 127 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 5: into everything. 128 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: Let's go back. I want to go back to the 129 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: restoring for a second. We see every day another announcement 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: of you know, five hundred million dollars here, fifty billion 131 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: dollars there trading dollars, and I'm taking out the sovereign 132 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: wealth funds. I mean companies that are publicly reporting, that 133 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: have made very specific announcements about capital, that they're capital equipment, 134 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: they're building new plants, they're building, how they're restoring. I 135 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: think in Kentucky over the weekend, I think it was 136 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: ge bringing washing machines back refrigerators. But every day it 137 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: seems like you have another announcements that all been factored 138 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: in the growth that's going to come from just either 139 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: lower energy, deregulation, tariffs, whatever that ends up being. Companies 140 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: just want to be inside in the golden door and 141 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: now have to deal with the tariffs. Is that how 142 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: you get to the two point eight percent or could 143 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: that be potential even more upside? 144 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 5: Well, look, it's definitely part of it, So we didn't 145 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 5: go in and count every single deal is part of 146 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 5: those numbers. But the present suite of policies aim to 147 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 5: make America the best place on earth to do business, 148 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 5: so that anyone opening a factory, opening a new site, 149 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 5: hiring workers as America is the obvious place to do it, 150 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: not China, not somewhere else. 151 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: America is the place to do business. 152 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 5: And all that does is boost the GDP growth, which 153 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 5: helps bring in revenues. And that comes from tax incentives 154 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 5: that we were just discussing a moment ago. You need 155 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 5: tax incentives to create to create an environment people want 156 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 5: to invest here. It comes from cutting red tape. It 157 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 5: comes from cutting regulations that to term business. You know, 158 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 5: you may have a situation in which somebody wants to 159 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 5: build a factory and you know, build something like jet 160 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 5: engines or something, but they can't do it because somebody 161 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 5: finds a snail, right. 162 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: You know, we want to prevent that from happening so 163 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: that people can. 164 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 5: Actually build the factories to increase production capacity here as 165 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: opposed to elsewhere. 166 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: And it comes from energy abundance. 167 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 5: It comes from all those things that boosts the economy, 168 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 5: that boosts growth, that boosts revenues. But we're not getting 169 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: revenues just from better growth alone. There's an additional one 170 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,119 Speaker 5: and a half trillion dollars of discretionary reductions and waste, 171 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: fraud and abuse that the government will be doing. 172 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: The adminstration will be doing that. 173 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 5: The Office of Management and Budget made public a few 174 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 5: weeks ago and there's an additional three trillion dollars of 175 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 5: revenue from tariffs. The idea of taxing foreigners to cut 176 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 5: taxes on Americans seems like a no brainer to me. 177 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 5: I can't believe it. It took this long for us 178 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: to figure it out. But that's what President Trump's policy is, 179 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 5: and he knows it's the right policy. And then, finally, 180 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 5: because we're borrowing all this less stuff from the deficit 181 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 5: reduction from growth from tariffs, from deregulation, from cuts to 182 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 5: wastefron abuse, that means you've got less interest to pay too, 183 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 5: and that's additional one and a half trillion. 184 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: Dollars of lower interest expenses. 185 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 5: So you add all this up, it comes to about 186 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 5: eight and a half to eleven trillion dollars of deficit 187 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 5: reduction relative to you know, relative to where things would 188 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: be if we had the big taxi as in the 189 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 5: CBO baseline. 190 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: So this is what I want to come. By the way, 191 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: let's go back to the tariffs. For second, I have 192 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: been calculating four hundred by in a year off of numbers. 193 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: You're saying, even, hey, you'll even take a cut that 194 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: three hundred bi and a year over ten years three 195 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: trillion dollars additionally tariffs, and it looks like you're going 196 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: to blow through that number in the first year, right, 197 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: just to make just to show people, hey, they're not 198 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: thrown up pye in the sky numbers. They're already going 199 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: to hit this number or beyond in the in the 200 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: first fiscal year. Correct. 201 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely, there's ten tens and trillions of dollars of 202 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: any coming in from tariffs every month already, and that 203 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 5: number is only going to go higher as as month 204 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: to month volatility. Smith's out and we settled into the 205 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 5: new reality of tariffs. But yeah, we've got about three 206 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 5: trillion dollars over ten years, or as you point out, 207 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 5: about three hundred billion dollars per year. 208 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: But of course, you know, rates could change. We're coming 209 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: up on this July ninth deadline. 210 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 5: And you know, there's a lot of countries that are 211 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 5: i think, doing a really good job of negotiating and 212 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 5: doing a really good job that making the concessions they 213 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: need for the President to keep their teriff for each 214 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 5: relatively low. But there are other countries that are proving 215 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 5: to be a bit intransigent and not really moving forward. 216 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: And you know, for those countries. You know, it wouldn't 217 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 5: be surprising to me if teriffor it snapped back up. 218 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: So there's upside risk for sure to the teriff revenue 219 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: number I gave you before. 220 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure everybody else. So the CBO, 221 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: if you take the CBO score, which is not dynamic, 222 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: but more than that, it also doesn't add everything up, 223 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: you're going they're at a negative three trade in you're 224 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: actually saying the reverse. You're you're kind of a positive 225 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: eight and a half to eleven in deficit reduction. So 226 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: the spread is anywhere from ten to eleven to fourteen trade. 227 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: I mean there's a big spread here. How the two 228 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: institutions look at it? Right, CBO, which has a history 229 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: of miscalculation, and you guys which are putting this together, say, hey, 230 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: here's a real snapshot. What does this going to look 231 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: like given the con urchins of all our policies? Correct? 232 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: Uh, it's yes, but not exactly right. 233 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 5: So so so I gave the eight and a half 234 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: and two eleven trillion dollars relative to the. 235 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 2: Tax like baseline. 236 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 5: But if you uh, if but you know the bill 237 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 5: that you know, but the the the bill itself, uh 238 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 5: in the in the CBO scoring costs about three and 239 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 5: a half trillion dollars. So the spread is three and 240 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 5: a half. Uh, you would subtract three and a half 241 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 5: from the eight and a half to eleven numbers that 242 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 5: I gave you, and it's for the spread of the 243 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 5: difference between US and CBO is going to be about 244 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 5: five to five to to to eight and a half 245 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 5: or something. 246 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: So this the spread is less wide. 247 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: That's that's. 248 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: But other than that, yeah, yeah. 249 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a big but it's a significant it's 250 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: a significant spread. It's one group's going to be right 251 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 1: here and one group is going to be wrong. That 252 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: that's that's you can't deny. I mean, you're you guys 253 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: add everything up, which is large or these are all 254 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: the activities, these are all the things you're working on 255 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: that are coming. They're they're real, they're happening right now. 256 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: CBO kind of has a very static way to look 257 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: at this. Correct they do. 258 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 5: And let me let me just give an example to 259 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 5: make it really obvious to everyone listening, which is that 260 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 5: if there's so there's an incentive in this bill, the 261 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 5: full expensing on new factories. So if I build a 262 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 5: new factory. It's completely tax deductible immediately. Right, So that's 263 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 5: a very very powerful and profound incentive, tax incentive from 264 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 5: the government to get me to build a new factory. 265 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: Right. 266 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 5: Obviously there's going to be more new factories result of that. Right, 267 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 5: as the government gives away money to people to build factories, 268 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 5: you will get more factories. 269 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: CBO. 270 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 5: You know, in those more factories means more investment, more 271 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 5: more economic activity, more income, More income means more tax revenue. Right, 272 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: CBO doesn't account for those increased incomes and those increased 273 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 5: tax revenue that come from the fact that people are 274 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 5: building more factories than they would without this incentive. 275 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: And either way people you know, yeah go ahead. 276 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: Yeah no, I was gonna say, I think if yeah. 277 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: Go ahead, a. 278 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 5: Great track recrun on this revenue revenues is a share 279 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 5: of the economy before the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, 280 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 5: before the twenty seventeen tax cut that everyone said was 281 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: going to blow such a big hole in the deficit, right, 282 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 5: such a big hole in the national budget. Seventeen point 283 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 5: one percent of GDP was revenues before the Tax Cuts 284 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 5: and Jobs Act. Still seventeen point one percent of GDP, 285 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 5: So there is no long term hole as a result 286 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 5: of the tax cuts are twenty seventeen there, you know, 287 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 5: in corporate tax revenue went from one point six percent 288 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 5: of GDP to one point eight percent of GDP. So 289 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 5: we cut corporate tax rates and yet corporate revenue grew 290 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 5: is a share of the economy. So we've got a 291 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: fantastic track record in this. 292 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: Now, the fourth quarter I think of twenty nineteen actually 293 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: got to three point three percent, he averaged two point average, 294 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: got to three point three doctor Marin? Where can people go? Myron? 295 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about this? 296 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: Your social media? Do you have a website? I want 297 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: people to get fully up to speed on what reality is. 298 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 5: Sure, So we've got the research paper on our website 299 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 5: as well as a chart book about the deficit. It's 300 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 5: the Council of Economic Advisor's page on the White House website. 301 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 5: You can just search on the internet for for White 302 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 5: House CEA. I I've also got a you know, we've 303 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 5: got a We've got a Twitter handle, sorry, an X 304 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 5: handle at CEA forty seven. 305 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: I'm also at Steve Myron. But yeah, you'll you'll be 306 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: hearing more from. 307 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: Us, doctor Yes, go on offense you guys have a 308 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: great story to tell. Let's tell it. We're here at 309 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: the War Room to be your platform. Love it, absolutely 310 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: love it. Thank you so much for joining us today. 311 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 312 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: President Trump's guest. Some pretty smart guys working for him. 313 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: My Roun's one of them. Short commercial break, We're gonna 314 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: be back talking about the big, beautiful bill that's engulfing 315 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Washington right now. 316 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: Next America, here's your host, Stephen k Man. 317 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: Okay, In breaking news, the Senate just failed to remove 318 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: illegal aliens for Medicaid programs because the parliamentarian changed the 319 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: vote requirement to sixty votes from fifty one. She said 320 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: it basically couldn't go into a straight reconciliation. You're seeing 321 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: this happen a lot on various things. I think planned parenthood. 322 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: The defunding is only for a year, not for ten years. 323 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: Caroline Wren, I thank you for taking time. I know 324 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: you had other things planned, but for jumping in here 325 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: just on the voter rama. It's still going on, but 326 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: they're you know, you've got guys like Tony Perk and 327 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Elon Moss. Elon Muss is just 328 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: coming out to attack. This is his vengeance on the president, right, 329 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: calling once again calling for a third party. This is 330 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: after he tried to you know, slide back in there 331 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: and say he was sorry and you know, wanted to 332 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: be the president's friend again. Now he's calling for a 333 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: third party, a new party. He's just land blasting this 334 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: bill with a blunderbuss, right, not even looking at it 335 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: in a sophisticated manner. And there's and don't get me wrong, 336 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: I have big issues with the lots in this bill, 337 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: but then you have things like the parliament you got 338 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: Tony Perkins and others is saying, hey, look we've been 339 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: working on this. We think you get to the House, 340 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: but you just can't do a one year cut on 341 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: planned parenthood. The whole thing's got to go. That's what 342 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: we voted for. And now you see kind of just 343 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, you got there's the parliamentarian makes a decision. 344 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: It can't go and for the it can't go for 345 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: the fifty one, you know, just the majority, the majority vote. 346 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: It has to get the sixty, which is really break 347 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: a fill of bus of which you're never going to 348 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: do on the ille aliens, Medicaid. And that's there was 349 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: the whole thing off, because that's one of the biggest 350 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: cuts for Medicaid and that's one that virtually all the 351 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: Republicans back. So can you give us a sense in 352 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: the Senate first, where do you think this thing stands? 353 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: I understand there's deal making going on and Thune's got 354 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: to look I don't you know, Thune's got a very 355 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: tough job trying to wrangle all these folks. Give us 356 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: your sense of on the Senate side of where we stand. 357 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 6: Is it incredible how they could pass Obamacare through reconciliation, 358 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 6: but for some reason we cannot roll back any of 359 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 6: the you know, provisions that made into Obamacare through reconciliation. 360 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 6: The parliamentarian strikes it out like That's why people are 361 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 6: frustrated with this parliamentarian is because it is just so 362 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 6: duplicative what they are, what they're, what she's doing, and 363 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 6: so it's extremely frustrating to watch. There's no way the 364 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 6: House is going to vote on a bill that includes 365 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 6: includes funding illegal aliens healthcare. I'm telling you that right now, 366 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 6: and so there that is definitely going to be something 367 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 6: that's going to stall this Senate bill a little bit. 368 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 6: They do have some more time they were, i think, 369 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 6: hoping to have the final passage today, but due to 370 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 6: some members being on codels and different things on the 371 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 6: House side, I think it's there's no way really to 372 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 6: vote on this in the House side until Wednesday. But 373 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 6: it's certainly an imperfect bill. In fact, the House Freedom 374 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 6: Caucus just came out and said that the Senate version 375 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 6: adds six hundred and fifty one billion to the deficit. 376 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 6: Y'all promise us it wouldn't anything to the deficit, and 377 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 6: that was before special interest costs, which nearly double that total. 378 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 6: So you know, I've talked a lot with Carressman Andy Harris, 379 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 6: the head of the Freedom Caucus, who's been incredible, But 380 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 6: the Senate bill that they're currently voting on right now 381 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 6: is not going to be acceptable for the House. There's 382 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 6: no possible way to get it through, so they will 383 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 6: have to make changes once it goes back over to 384 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 6: the House side. But more importantly, I mean, I'm hoping 385 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 6: that this bill gets done and over quickly, quite frankly, 386 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 6: because you know, having campaigned as hard as we did, 387 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 6: especially with you, Steve, as populist, we have to realize 388 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 6: that we've spent the past few months promoting a new 389 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 6: war in the Middle East and talking about cutting medicaid, 390 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 6: and these are not successful things with These are not 391 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 6: things that I know the MAGA base wants us to 392 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 6: be talking about. 393 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: Or focused on. 394 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 6: In fact, the only successful bill I've seen get through 395 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: with some sort of crypto bill another like carve out 396 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 6: for the tech industry here. So I hope that the 397 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 6: House will make the changes and we can get this done, 398 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 6: because if I were the Democrats, there is a lot 399 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 6: of messaging I can do against us right now. 400 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: Well, but if the bill passes and it's in its form, 401 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you saw what happened, and people should take 402 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: New York City. And I'm not talking about his radical 403 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: his radical solutions, but the ground game he put together 404 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: and how he got to low information voters. You've got 405 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: to take that into consideration when when you do this. 406 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy, there's some terrible messaging here. Look, 407 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: I've been an advocate from day one, and the reason 408 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: I don't like this bill, although I support the President 409 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: trying to get it done, is it should raise taxes 410 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: on the upper bracket. That's one of the ways that 411 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: we can get the math to work better. And of 412 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: course the Republican Party. Parts of that are just absolutely 413 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, opposed that. So when you say pass it, 414 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: I mean it has to have a balance between like 415 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: for instance, in the old cutting medicaid with the meat axe, 416 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: we can't do anymore for the simple reason that so 417 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: many jobs have been shifted overseas, so few people have 418 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: medical insurance, so few companies are paying for it or 419 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: even paying decent salaries, that there's a lot of maga 420 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: on Medicaid. At the same time, you've got to take 421 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: you illegal aliens off one hundred and the able body 422 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: have to work, and I don't think if it's in 423 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: there a bedcheck once every six months is enough. I 424 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: think it's got to be much more frequently that And 425 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: if they can't make the bed check, they got to 426 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's not a problem with working people, able 427 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: body people having you know, having medicaid, But if you're 428 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have a job, you're not searching 429 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: for a job, you're not doing community work, you're not 430 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: going to college, you know, you got to check that frequently. 431 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: If they're not going to do that, they got to 432 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: drop off the rolls. Those types of things that I 433 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: think have to be in there, right, you have to 434 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: take care of the Royal hospital, rural hospitals. I believe 435 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: although Tom Tillis also has some of the Tillius guys 436 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: and Rand Paul also have makes sense in some of 437 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: their sayings. So this thing's I think needs to be 438 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: refined more and we have to get the messaging right 439 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: on this. Are we going to get crushed on this thing? 440 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: I mean I see it right now, and there's too 441 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: many things slid in here or they're trying to slide 442 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: in here. For the tech industry. One is the artificial 443 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: intelligence right the ten year moretuary about any state having 444 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: any say so at all, and you know the issues 445 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: have cropped up on our official intelligence all the time. 446 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: Also the fact that the bottom line is it takes 447 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: you ten times more regulation open up a nail salon 448 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Than any regulation on artificial intelligence 449 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: right now. And essentially they just want to take all 450 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: regulation off it and have another big win for tech. Ma'am. 451 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 6: Yeah. When I say just past, I mean the Senate 452 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 6: side is I think an unacceptable bill. But in the 453 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 6: House they can go back to a lot of the 454 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 6: House provisions which included the things that you're talking about 455 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 6: right now, And so that's what I'm hoping is when 456 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 6: it gets kicked back over to the House side, then 457 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 6: the House can actually and let the House Freedom Caucus 458 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 6: take the lead on these things and go back to 459 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 6: fixing those The AI thing that you just mentioned is horrible. 460 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 6: But back to what you're talking about in New York 461 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 6: City and Mondamie, I know you and I have been 462 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 6: talking a lot about this now. Things that Mondamie has 463 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 6: said in the past are absolutely insane. I have no 464 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 6: doubt that the man is a Marxist socialist nut job. 465 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 6: But he did not campaign over the last four months 466 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 6: as that. He campaigned essentially as Steve Bannon, and there's 467 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 6: a reason why he resonated the way he did. And 468 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 6: if the Democrats campaign like this, they will crush us 469 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 6: in the midterms. And the Democrats stick to the talking 470 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 6: points of the cost of living is too high in 471 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 6: Americans need a raise, the American healthcare system is broken, 472 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 6: and insurance companies are corrupt and evil, no new wars, 473 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 6: and protect Social Security and Medicaid. Those four things are 474 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 6: the people. That is what people care about back at home. 475 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 6: That anyone that I talked to outside of Washington DC. 476 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 6: Those are the talking points that they want to hear. 477 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 6: And that's really what Mom Donnie was talking about on 478 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 6: the campaign trail. Now, the places where I differ with 479 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 6: him massively are regarding immigration. He's so far out there, 480 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 6: and also, you know when we're talking about Israel, you 481 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: know he is also way too far out there on that. 482 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 6: But on the campaign trail, when you're asked in a debate, 483 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 6: where would you travel first, and every candidate says Israel, 484 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 6: and he says, I wouldn't travel anywhere. I'm running for 485 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 6: mayor of New York, so I'm going to be right 486 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 6: here in New York City. That resonates with folks. So 487 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 6: you know, the talking points that he had over the 488 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 6: last four campaigns were are actually they were extraordinarily effective, 489 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 6: and they were smart and I'm curious to see how 490 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 6: the Democrats will follow there. But they were talking about 491 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 6: things that you've talked about, Steve, and that I did 492 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 6: on this show, and what Republicans should be focused on. 493 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: Well, they what he did is took a form of populism, 494 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: and his radical ideas like the free transportation and the 495 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: and the food stores he tried to play down. He 496 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: tried to take and steal as much of President Trump's 497 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: platform as possible. Understanding, the Democrats have not put forward 498 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: a legitimate populist left, a poppytiest platform. And this guy 499 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: is a Jahattist, He's a he's a neo Marxist. 500 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 4: Uh he is. 501 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: It's the Red Green Alliance. You can see what's happening 502 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 1: in New York City. But the sophisticated level that he ran, 503 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is kind of Obama two point zero. 504 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: Because Obama was a total radical, right, this guy's a 505 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: beyond a radical. He's beyond Obama. But the way that 506 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: they're running, they understand that populism and populist policies are 507 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: the solution. That's why the House version, I mean, this 508 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: is gonna be a big fight. I don't see this 509 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: right now, and maybe I'm wrong. I don't see this 510 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: on the President's desk on fourth of July for a 511 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: signature unless the House gets back here quickly and they're 512 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: able to hammer some of this out with the Senate. Man. 513 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 6: You know, I think that deadline is looking more and 514 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 6: more unlikely as well, and so which I have no 515 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 6: problem if they passed that deadline. You know, fine, I 516 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 6: just want this bill fixed and made in the most 517 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 6: America first model of what it is. This is supposed 518 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 6: to be President Trump's agenda in this bill, and so 519 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 6: I am really hoping that the House can get in 520 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 6: there and truly fix it. And then I hope that 521 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 6: the House and the Senate and then President Trump's team 522 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 6: focus on the campaign promises that they made to Americans, 523 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 6: and that is to focus on lowering the cost of 524 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 6: living in this country, which he really had he's been doing. 525 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 6: I mean, the price of gas has gone down, inflation 526 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 6: is going down. They've got to cut rates. But these 527 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 6: are all things that we need to be talking about 528 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 6: and not just constantly talking about these can using languages 529 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 6: in the bill and Iran and Israel now net and Yah. 530 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: Who's coming next week? 531 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 6: That's a whole another last week of messaging talking about 532 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 6: net and yeah, who's visit? Talk about America, talk about 533 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 6: the problems that Americans are having that they want fixed 534 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 6: that President Trump promised he would fix in which he 535 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 6: actually is. But we are getting distracted looking at these, 536 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 6: you know, uh, just constant overseas problems, and right now 537 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 6: we need to focus on the winds of President Trump 538 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 6: cauld deliver and has. 539 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: Delivered, and not just that the net Yahoo, the New 540 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: York people understand this. I spent four days up there 541 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: looking at the data. It was a referendum on net Yahu. 542 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: Better you better understand this because bringing net Yahu to 543 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: the White House next week is horrible, horrible heart particularly 544 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: if we're in the middle of this horrible messaging uh, 545 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: because they still are bound and determined to do regime change. 546 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: The American people have zero interests in this. They just 547 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: want to Hey, we got it done. Took out the 548 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: nuclear program. President Trump ended the twelve day war with 549 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: a catastrophic strike. Game over. Let's take the win and 550 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: move on. Caroline? Where do you will get you on 551 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: social media? People want to follow you. Plea particularly is 552 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: this works up through the in the Senate and you're 553 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: hearing a lot of guys in the House, a lot 554 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: of people the members of the House starting to say, Hey, 555 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: this is gonna be tough to uh to swallow in 556 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: the House. So it's gonna be a big fight this week. 557 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: Where do folks go? 558 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 6: Man, It is at Caroline Wrenn on Twitter, Getter and 559 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 6: truth social. 560 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate you. Philip Patrick, even as 561 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: we speak, is heading to La x the airport. He's 562 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: gonna be heading to Brazil for the for the Bricks 563 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: Nations their UH their their meeting in Brazil UH to 564 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: talk about the US dollar as the premier reserve currency. 565 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: Birch Gold dot com promo code Bannon the end of 566 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: the dollar Empire, seven free installments, Get up to speed. 567 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Philip Patrick from lax in the six 568 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: o'clock hour before he leaves. We're hav him every day 569 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: from Brazil. Short break back in a moment. 570 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: Really, he's your host, Stephen K. 571 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: Bath. 572 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: Okay, they just passed. So for instance, the parliamentarian is saying, 573 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: now you can't do the uh, you can't, you can't 574 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: do the illegal aliens. Yet we just did pass. I 575 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: think they blocked funding funding planned parenthood. Now I'm not 576 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: sure if that's for the whole ten years of the 577 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: one year. I think it's just for the one year. 578 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: But the US and has just blocked a measure that 579 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: required the Big Beautiful Bill to fund planted parenthood by 580 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: a forty nine to fifty one vote. That's positive today. Also, 581 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: you should know, and this is one of the reasons 582 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: we're not going to the floor all the time. Normally 583 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: had these voter ramas. It's one after the other after 584 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: the other. You know, they go all night, and they 585 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: go for a couple of days maybe, and it's completely 586 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: jammed with amendments. Debate on the amendments. This is going 587 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: a little you know, catches, catch can a little. Sarah Feris, 588 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,239 Speaker 1: I want to report that there is zero rush by 589 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: the Senate to move along with these amendments. The last 590 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: amendment vote for Murray was open for forty five plus minutes. 591 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: It just failed. This is not your average vote rama, 592 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: usually overnight and much much faster. I think the reason 593 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: is that there's still debating things that are going into 594 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: this bill. 595 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 7: Now. 596 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: My understanding is that the reporting this morning on the 597 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: show about Marshall Blackburn actually working on some compromise with 598 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz turns out it was essentially wrong. Marshall Blackburn 599 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: is down and she's kind of dug in. Particularly the 600 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: parliamentarian is not going to say that they can get 601 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: any compromise language she thinks protects children and content creators 602 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: on the bill on artificial intelligence, and right now my 603 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: understandings of parliamentarian just came back said the camp maybe 604 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: those changes, and so as it stands right now, and 605 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: we are a big advocate of calling your congressman, calling 606 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: your senator and saying, hey, there should be no compromise 607 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: in this. It should be the States. You know that 608 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: they should not block the States for ten years. This 609 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: moratorium against the States for ten years is absolutely uh 610 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: is absolutely outrageous, and it should be. And my concern 611 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: is not a lot of these people and Mike Davis 612 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: and others are putting up these issues about content creators 613 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: and the ability to you know, make sure they can't 614 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: take all of your information like President Trump's book out 615 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: of the deal and take it and use it for 616 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: machine learning and make people smarter and not have to 617 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: pay for it or not have to compensate for it. 618 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: So they're taking all this as free content. Certainly I 619 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: have an issue with that as a content creator. You know, 620 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: that's the type of thing to get worked out. My 621 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: bigger problem is that the States may be our bullwork 622 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: here about what's going on with artificial intelligence. Like I said, 623 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: you've got you know, more regulations on getting a nail 624 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: salon set up or hair braiding salon set up, then 625 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: you have on artificial intelligence right now. And this is 626 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: another bill passed by big tech. You heard Caroline ren 627 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: The only thing I think has really been passed of 628 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: any substance is this was this genius act on on 629 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: cryptocurrency that was really pushed by the tech bros. And 630 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: you see, right now you've got a tech bro Okay, fine, 631 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: you've got the tech bros that are that are are 632 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: pushing here. You see they're hiding behind Elon Moss or 633 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: they're ripping on President Trump right now calling for a 634 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: new third party. I don't think it behooves us in 635 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: the efforts we're trying to do here to try to 636 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: get this all put to bed. And look, nobody's in 637 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: love with this bill, the entire thing. It's got issues 638 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: to it, it's also got great benefits. You heard doctor 639 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Stephen Myron at the at the very top, with the 640 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: economic growth that could come out of this, and that's 641 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: the bet that's being made at supply side. Joe Allen 642 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: joins us and Joe Allen. I think we're gonna try 643 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: to get some other people as the show goes on. 644 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: But right now I did have a chance to talk 645 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: to the Senator Blackburn, and she's pretty dug in that 646 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: she's not enthusiastic about any compromise on this unless it's 647 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: the only possible way out. But right now, she says 648 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: to parliamentarian, she doesn't think he's going to prove anything 649 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: that would be on any compromise, So there's not going 650 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: to be a compromise. Do you have any update on. 651 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: That, sir, No, Steve, other than I have heard from 652 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: a reliable source that Blackburn is planning to stand up 653 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: to this, that she is not planning on compromising. I 654 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: think that her constituents should give her all the support 655 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: that she needs and make sure that she understands that 656 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: they do not want this federal preemption. They do not 657 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: want to have the federal government be the sole bulwark 658 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 4: against the various downsides of AI. I mean, you know, 659 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 4: we've covered this for four years. The war room audience 660 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 4: understands that everything from AI addiction with kids becoming kind 661 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 4: of brain dead due to reliance on it all the 662 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: way out to the dangers of AI powered weapon systems 663 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 4: and even having potentially some sort of artificial general or 664 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 4: superintelligence that would just be a civilization shattering transformation. You 665 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 4: want to have at the very least, whether it's the 666 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: most mundane algorithm or some dreamt of godlike AI. You 667 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 4: want to have the legal systems in place to hold 668 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 4: these companies liable, to actually insist on transparency so that 669 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 4: the systems are being tested consistently, so that we know 670 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: that if you hand a child laptop and say this 671 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 4: is your teacher, this is where you will learn about reality, 672 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: that the child is not going to be fed hallucinations 673 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 4: constantly and have their mind work all the way out 674 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 4: to the medical industry, where right now they're talking about 675 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: a kind of new medical ethic where one is considered 676 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 4: to be negligent, one is considered to be basically conduct 677 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 4: you know, malpractice as a doctor for not consulting AI 678 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: as some sort of justification for any diagnosis, any sort 679 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 4: of treatment. So, yes, Marcia Blackburn one hundred percent needs 680 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: to stand up. She's got Josh Holly on her side, 681 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: she has Ran Paul on her side, and of course 682 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: she has most of America on her side. The latest 683 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 4: poll from the Institute for Family Studies conducted with Yugov, 684 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 4: showed that Trump voters just isolating selecting for Trump voters, 685 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 4: that fifty five percent do not want an AI moratorium. 686 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: Fifty five percent. I'm sorry, fifty five percent want their 687 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 4: states to be empowered to make their own decisions and 688 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: conduct themselves into the future as they choose. So, yeah, Steve, 689 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: I think that Marcia, if she has the spine to 690 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: do this, she's going to come out a winner at 691 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 4: the end. 692 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 7: Yeah. 693 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why Ted Cruz and this is another 694 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: thing of concernacy about Texas. That's the great state of Texas. 695 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: Why Ted Cruz is doing the bidding of the of 696 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: the tech bros. Here hangarver side, We've got Mark Bill 697 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: joins Joe, stay right there because I want to answer 698 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: about the conference we went to and what the sense 699 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: of the folks at the conference was. Mark Bill, can 700 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: you you help us on this. People are pretty worked 701 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: up about looking at keeping the States and any kind 702 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: of involvement in the States at all, and any type 703 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: of oversight or regulations of on AI. This is going 704 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: to be a very big deal in the Senate right now, 705 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: and they're talking about compromise. But we now know that 706 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: some people are saying, no, we don't want to compromise. 707 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: We want we want you know, no, we're not taking 708 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: ten years or not taking five years. We want no 709 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: years wants zero. Can you give us an update. Yeah, 710 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: it's a pretty dynamic situation now, Steve. 711 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 8: It's funny that this one little line and the big 712 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 8: beautiful Bill has attracted so much attention. And I think 713 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 8: it's right that it is attracting this much attention. You 714 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 8: know this, all the industry leaders people are saying, this 715 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 8: is going to be one of the most transformative technologies 716 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 8: in human history, and it's probably worth a national dialogue 717 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 8: on how we need to be thinking about it. And 718 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 8: you know, the idea that we're going to put this 719 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 8: provision in the big beautiful bill and slow down the 720 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 8: president's agenda and give kind of the tech industry a freebie, 721 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 8: it seems a little bit kind of dissonant to me, 722 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 8: at least when it comes to what good policies should 723 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 8: look like. 724 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: Well, this is why it was done. This bills nine 725 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: hundred pages long. You see the fights, and right now 726 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: Twitter is blowing up with these votes and where Republicans 727 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: are coming down on these votes right now, and it 728 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: looks I think secure Kupor over at Heal Coupour over 729 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: at CNN is saying, hey, the whole thing looks far 730 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: from a done deal, and we already know this is 731 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: not moving at the kind of pace you normally vote Ramas. 732 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: The reason is students having to put together almost on 733 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: an amendment by amendment, a different coalition. How did this 734 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: And the parliamentarian I think is sitting there going this 735 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: thing should have never been here in the first place. 736 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: This is a pure policy you know, this is a 737 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: pure policy change, and a massive policy change, and it 738 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: shouldn't be in a budget reconciliation, right, That's why she's 739 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: coming back and you know, enforcing kind of what the 740 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: rules are for these reconciliations. But this shows you that 741 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: people like Ted Cruz and those that are doing the 742 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: big bidding of the oligarchs are going to slip a 743 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: one page in with a you know, one paragraph two 744 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: paragraphs that could change American life, sir. 745 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 8: You know, it would be one thing if the President 746 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 8: of the United States came out and said personally, this 747 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 8: is a big important priority for me. But we didn't 748 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 8: even see that AI policy appear once in his Statement 749 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 8: of administration policy, and so it's not clear to me 750 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 8: that the white that the President himself is really you know, 751 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 8: focused on this. I think he's got a big agenda 752 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 8: in the big beautiful bill. And at this point, you know, 753 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 8: we're slowing down the the implementation of of what the 754 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 8: American people elected the president to do over this kind 755 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 8: of very bespoke issue. 756 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, Joe or someone else. 757 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 8: Mentioned that some of the polling and the American people 758 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 8: don't don't want to see a freebee to the industry 759 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 8: just to let it do whatever it wants. And it's 760 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 8: not you know, I saw a Secretary Leutink today tweeted that, 761 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 8: you know, it's concerns about just California and in the 762 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 8: liberal agenda. But as you pointed out, it's Texas, it's Utah, Georgia. 763 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 8: There are plenty of Tennessee, plenty of good conservative states 764 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 8: out there trying to get their arms around this, and 765 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 8: it's a bit of a head scratcher while we're trying 766 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 8: to undo all that hard work. 767 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you. I think people in briefing 768 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: the president president understands that we're in a part of 769 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: this because of deep seek. We are in a race 770 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: with the Chinese Commanist Party. I think his you know, 771 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: he comes out and says, hey, I want us to 772 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: be a leader in artificial intelligence. I don't want to 773 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: find fall behind the Chinese. The artificial intelligence industry and 774 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: particularly the four guys that are at the lead of it, 775 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: including Elon, must be in one. They're using that as 776 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: kind of we've had the Sputnik moment. We can't have 777 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: any regulations at all. It's it's a matter of life 778 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: and death to do this. Do you agree with that 779 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: or do you think that's over sell. 780 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 8: I think it's all about the relative velocity of the 781 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 8: United States and China, you know. I think the tech 782 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 8: industry has been selling to the Chinese all the capabilities 783 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 8: they've needed to be successful and to catch up to 784 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 8: us over the last you know, three to five years, 785 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 8: we've been hemorrhaging our capabilities to the Chinese. And so 786 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 8: the idea that some folks in industry want to say, oh, 787 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 8: we're scared about China and at the other you know, 788 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 8: turnaround and then sell them ours most sophisticated capabilities, there's 789 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 8: some logical, you know, questions that we might have in that. 790 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 8: So I do am I appreciate the concern that a 791 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 8: patchword regulatory regime impact our industry and. 792 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: May slow us down. 793 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 8: And that's why I think it's really urgent that the 794 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 8: Congress get itself together and start to focus on this, 795 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 8: and then also sort of slow down the flow of 796 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 8: our stuff over the Chinese and so that their military 797 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 8: is not weaponizing American tech against US. I think both 798 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 8: those two things would happen. This would help increase the 799 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 8: lead between the United States and China in a helpful 800 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 8: way that also allows us to think more deeply about 801 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 8: the impact of this and powerful technology on the American people. 802 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: Can you hang on for a second, Mark and get 803 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: Joe Allenbeck in here in a moment, we're gonna take 804 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: a break. We've got Jackie Torborov and Dave Ramaswami. 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I know I'm gonna get you up 860 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: on Skype one day to get a better view, but 861 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: just give us a quick overview. How I couldn't make 862 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: it out there because I was in New York City 863 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: trying to figure out trying to figure out how not 864 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: to have a radical takeover the mayorship, and that's going 865 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: to be quite difficult. But tell us about the conference. 866 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: Well, Stee, First and foremost, I got to say that 867 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 4: I was. I was at two conferences back to back 868 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 4: between Bozeman, Montana and somewhere in the wilds of Wyoming, 869 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 4: and both of them they insist that you come out 870 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 4: and at least say hi, but hopefully come out and 871 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 4: share your wisdom on stage. So the first was Nefcon 872 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 4: with Timothy Alberino, and I've got to say, you know, 873 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 4: I spoke at his Birthright conference two years before. Of course, 874 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 4: that audience is going to be much more prime towards 875 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 4: ideas of transhumanism, artificial intelligence, artificial superintelligence. But just in 876 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 4: the last two years, you can see this dramatic change 877 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 4: because people are now interacting with AI. Their jobs, are 878 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 4: insisting that they use it, their schools are starting to 879 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 4: roll it out as teaching tools. It's becoming just the norm. 880 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 4: And of course you're seeing it in the military. You're 881 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 4: seeing it being pushed into the government with Talenteer and DOGE. 882 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 4: So the awareness is just so much keener now than 883 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 4: it was two years ago. And you know, statistically, if 884 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 4: you look at the polls, if you look at the surveys, 885 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 4: Americans by and large don't want to incorporate AI into 886 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 4: their lives. They don't want want to have AI as 887 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 4: some sort of tool that they're forced to use all 888 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 4: the time in their jobs. So, you know, when it 889 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 4: gets to the legality of it, the ability of states 890 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 4: to regulate it, or the federal government incorporating it, most 891 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 4: Americans are not comfortable with this. And I hope that 892 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 4: politicians in Congress and in the administration are starting to 893 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 4: see that this is not something that is for the people. 894 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 4: This is something that is being pushed by a very 895 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 4: very tiny minority of billionaires and their technologists and the 896 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 4: smaller camp of transhumanists. The second thing I just want 897 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 4: to say though with Wyoming just I can't really talk 898 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 4: about who was here, but I will say that a 899 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,919 Speaker 4: number of people who are deeply involved in the tech 900 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 4: industry and also writers, a lot of artists, the same 901 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 4: sort of sentiment even among technologists, this extreme discomfort. At 902 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 4: the very least, you have a small handful of tech 903 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 4: oligarchs determining all this. Nobody wants it, and that's really 904 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 4: the point. Americans don't want it. The tech companies do. 905 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 4: The politicians really need to reflect our interests, not theirs. 906 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: Joe, how do people get to you? We'll get you 907 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: back up when you get to a location in the 908 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: next couple of days. Where do people go in the interim? 909 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 4: Sir at Joe bot x y z on social media 910 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 4: and Joe bought dot x y z substack. Thank you 911 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 4: very much, Steve, I will talk to you soon. 912 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, and I'm glad you represented us well at 913 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 1: the conference. It's really proud of you, Mark Beale. This 914 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: is one we should what they try to slip in 915 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: on one page. We should have a national debate over correct. 916 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: What would you recommend that the audience do right now 917 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: in order to make sure their voice is heard about 918 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 1: this AI moratorium in state's got to take a tenure 919 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: a decade and not do anything, no regulations all on 920 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. What are your thoughts? 921 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 8: This is the most important issue of our time and 922 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 8: the American people have to have a vote, have to 923 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 8: have a say. You know, we the same of the 924 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 8: arguments that they're making right now sound and awfully like 925 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 8: the arguments they use with NAFTA, and you know that 926 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 8: that does enfranchise a lot of people. And the most 927 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 8: important things that we need to do now is get active. 928 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 8: Get on the phone, Call your congressman, call your senator, 929 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 8: let them know that you care about this issue. You 930 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 8: care about it deeply. And I think that's the way 931 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 8: that we're going to move the needle. We need a 932 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 8: grassroops uprising to start engaging at picking up the phone 933 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 8: and making sure these politicians understand that the people have 934 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 8: an interest and have a say and they want their 935 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 8: voices heard. 936 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: Mark, you're leading an organization now, you dedicate yourself to 937 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: this effort. Where do people go, sir? 938 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 8: Our organization is called the AI Policy Network, and you 939 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 8: can find us online at AI theaipn dot org. 940 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: Brother, thank you and thank you for jumping on here 941 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: to say we're going to get you. This one's a dogfight. 942 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 1: It's going to go through the night and probably tomorrow, 943 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: so it'll be what will be hunt you down in 944 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: the morning, sir, get your seed. Thanks Mark Biale. They 945 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: got do I have Lindell. I've got the Mike Lindell. 946 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 1: I go from artificial intelligence to Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell, 947 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: you save the company. You save the company. Now sell 948 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: us a pillow or sell us a sheet. Tell some 949 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: of these sheets. People want to support you. They love 950 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: the facts that you're back, and they love the fact 951 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: that you live to fight another day. 952 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 7: Sir, Well, thank you Steven, Thank you Warroom Polsi. You 953 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 7: guys made it all possible. And I'm back in Minnesota. 954 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 7: I was down at my factory today. Remember we've got 955 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 7: the new Prekale sheets. The whole line came in. These 956 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 7: are the higher thread called Perkale sheets. We're doing just 957 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 7: as just for today now tonight. This is the last 958 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 7: few hours of that sale. Well, I wanted the war 959 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 7: Room posse to get it for the wholesale price twenty 960 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 7: nine eighty eight. They're normally seventy nine ninety nine dollars, 961 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 7: any size, any collar and for twenty twenty nine eighty eight, 962 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 7: doesn't matter if it's king size, queen size, split kings. 963 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 7: Go to the website, you guys, this is just a 964 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 7: few hours left. Click on Steve. There there's the twenty 965 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 7: nine eighty eight. There's going to go up to the 966 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 7: regular sale price, which the rest of the country is planned. 967 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 2: You got the. 968 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 7: Fifty percent off crosses. I just got those in my office. 969 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 7: The new ones just came in there. Check those out. 970 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 7: And all of the stuff we have on sale, the 971 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 7: big ticket items, we left them on sale for fifty 972 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 7: percent or more. That's the beds, the mattress toppers, the 973 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 7: mattress pads, all of it made in the one hundred 974 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 7: percent in the USA. Get those big ticket items. But 975 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 7: you guys called downstairs, I had fun this morning. Eight 976 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 7: hundred eight seven three one zero six to two. Get 977 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 7: yourself a seventy sheets. I'm gonna go down there right 978 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 7: now and take phone calls with my crew. 979 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: Take a car. 980 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 7: We've been having a great time here. It's like a telethon. 981 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 7: Steve trumb Co War. 982 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: We got a jump back in a moment