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Speaker 1: as always, joined by Devin and in an echo chamber,

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Speaker 1: we're just like excited because we're you know, about to

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Speaker 1: again this week we have a mystery for you and

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Speaker 1: the quite cleverly named Project Lucifer. I like it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is Project Lucifer space? Yes, it happens in space.

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Speaker 1: In a single sentence, Project Lucifer is a supposed plan

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Speaker 1: if anybody has read much sci fi, then you've probably

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Speaker 1: read Arthur C. Clark's novel two thousand one, A Space Odyssey.

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Speaker 1: And even if you haven't read that book, you've probably

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Speaker 1: seen Stanley Kubrick's movie of the same name, Bump bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump,

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Speaker 1: we did well. And plus also you want to actually,

422
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, do a controlled thing

423
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: where you actually introduce bacteria that you want to do

424
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: rather than in this case, I think it was just

425
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: whatever straight crap was laying around the lab that hitched

426
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: to board that thing, So it could be some negatives.

427
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: The labs are always are clean, but once it gets

428
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: to the the launch site and it gets launched, you know,

429
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: there's just there and then there's Freddy who's coming out

430
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: with the flu who sneezed on it, you know, and

431
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Do you want influence of viruses like

432
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: replicating on on their own? Probably not? Probably not so

433
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: our friendly neighborhood conspiracy theories they see this act of

434
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: crashing Galileo into Jupiter and they say, ah ha, that

435
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: is evidence that you are trying to make Project Lucifer happen.

436
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: That's what's going on. Okay, Well, but there didn't They

437
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: just disprove their own theory, right. They were like, all

438
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: you have to do is crash one probe into there

439
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah blah. So NASA crashed a

440
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: probe into there and what happened. Nothing they tried and

441
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: they didn't quite do at this time. Remember, just because

442
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: they crash it in there doesn't mean it's going to happen.

443
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: They have to do it right, So bear with me

444
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: through this. Like I said, they believed that as it

445
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: went through to the depths of Jupiter, the pressure was

446
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: going to set off the plutonium in the RTG and

447
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: we were going to get this nuclear reaction. And of

448
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: course NASA holding up there into the cover up is

449
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: always said duh, that's not possible, dude, to which case

450
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: they said, duh, stop lying to us. Well, NASA seems

451
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: just a little bit too eager to quell these rumors. Yeah, yeah,

452
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: and thankfully. I mean, you know, NASA was bad at

453
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: what they were trying to do because nothing actually happened.

454
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: Right wrong again, Dunny, Wrong again, because a month or

455
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: so after Galileo went down into the atmosphere of Jupiter,

456
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: a dark spot appeared on Jupiter. About a month later

457
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: there was this giant Earth sized dark spot. So we

458
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: were able to observe this. I ask if it was

459
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: monolith shaped, No, no, it was. It was a circle,

460
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: but it was it was huge. It was it was large.

461
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: Although it looked to me like it was probably a

462
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: shadow cast by one of j It was moving, so

463
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: people said it was it was our friendly neighborhood conspiracy

464
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 1: theorists said that is a proof that it worked. The

465
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: plutonium exploded, it went off, it just did not create

466
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: a sustained nuclear reaction, so there was this big plume

467
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: and that's what came to the surface. Scientists have instead said,

468
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: as you, Joe just pointed out it was a shadow,

469
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: or others have said it was on the equator of Jupiter,

470
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: which it turns out is amazingly turbulent, and they're like, oh, yeah, no,

471
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: it it was some kind of crazy storm, giant giant storm,

472
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: which I don't want to be in the middle of.

473
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure weather is quite fun. J Maybe another reason

474
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: to turn it into a sun and so we don't ever, ever, ever,

475
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: ever have to deal with the weather. Yeah that's true. Yeah,

476
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: because I mean we were so going to go down. Yeah,

477
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: Okay that I feel like we've gotten everything across in

478
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: terms of what the story is. I feel like maybe

479
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: it might be a little bit confusing. So I'm just

480
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: gonna do what I don't normally do, which is just

481
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: the briefest of recaps. Drop a nuclear bomb of some

482
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: shape or form they say, into the atmosphere of Jupiter.

483
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: That's gonna go off. That's going to create a nuclear

484
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: reaction which is going to turn it into a sun,

485
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: which would would be hot, which would then also allow

486
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: the that nuclear reaction trainings with sun would turn the

487
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: moons of Jupiter into habitable worlds. And and proof is

488
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: that we dropped a spacecraft into it, and oh look,

489
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: we got this giant dark spot that proves that it

490
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: went off. We just didn't achieve sustained reaction the whole thing. Yeah,

491
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: and that might explain why NASA is currently working what

492
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: they call the Big Gas Probe. That it was like

493
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: twenty times bigger than than they're not actually a nuclear

494
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: fuel remarkably enough. Okay, so that is our story. We

495
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: are now going to get into theories. But before we

496
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: do that, let's quick take a quick break. If anyone

497
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: had a zeal for food, it was Kara wac That

498
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: man loved food, and the way he described it, how

499
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: could you not love it as well? Just show me

500
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: the bluefish spangle on a sea food menu and I'd

501
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: eat it. Let me smell the drawn butter and lobster claws.

502
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: There were places where they specialized in thick red roast

503
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: beef ajou or roast chicken basted in wine. There were

504
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: places where hamburg sizzled on grills and the coffee was

505
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: only a nickel. And oh that pan fried chow Mane

506
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: flavored air that blew into my room from Chinatown, vying

507
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: with the spaghetti sauces of North Beach, the soft shell

508
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: crab of Fisherman's Wharf, Nay, the ribs of fillmore turning

509
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: on spits, throw in Market Street, chili beans, red hot

510
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: and French fried potatoes from the Embarcadero Wine o Night

511
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: and steam clams from Salt Alito across the Bay. And

512
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: there's my odd dream of San Francisco. The great thing

513
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: is you don't have to travel to eat like that.

514
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,840
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524
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525
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: that's our first section of the theories. Portion is so

526
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: why do this? And we briefly covered this a little

527
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: bit before, and the answer is to play god of course. Duh.

528
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: So the idea that some organization which wants to set

529
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: up a planet on its own terms isn't all that

530
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: far fetched according to a lot of the stuff that

531
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: we have read. I mean, we've heard about these societies

532
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: that want to change governments on this planet. So why

533
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: is it so far fetched that somebody might say, hey,

534
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: let's just take our ball and leave and set up

535
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: our own somewhere else. There are plenty of dystopian movies

536
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: and books about this very sort of thing, be where

537
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: the elite get live off planet and everybody else suffers

538
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: below or whatever. Yeah, So I mean it's it's the

539
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: whole thing. Is that so that the this society or

540
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: this group that wants to create a new society I

541
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: should say they want to move everybody who is worthwhile,

542
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: and I use air quotes around the world worthwhile. I

543
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: don't know what their criteria is, but they they're going

544
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: to use them to repopulate these newly habitable moons around

545
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: this new sun of Jupiter or the new sun that

546
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: is made from Jupiter Lucifer, and they're gonna make their

547
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: own civilization. They're not going to have any of that

548
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: riff raff that this planet is just bogged down with,

549
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: or any of those crappy processes. You know, they're not

550
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: going to have any of that stuff. They're going to

551
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: be really upset when they find out you can't have

552
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: a society without people who are kind of dumb. And

553
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: the TPS report will always live on. Yeah, I think that,

554
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: but but you know, any off planet society, they're gonna

555
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: leave most of the rip rap behind anyway, because when

556
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: you're looking to take somebody your to your new colony,

557
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: obviously you're not gonna be recruited. You're not gonna recruit

558
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: high school dropouts with no skills there, so you know,

559
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: and then you're not going to recruit home most people

560
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: in heroin addicts. Well but but okay, but wait, but

561
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: but you know what, manual labor has to be done

562
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: nothing and nothing happens with how some guy cleaning out

563
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: to slop pens and turning a wrench. You're probably not

564
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: going to recruit people who like have a pension for murder.

565
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: You know, you might leave them behind. And by the

566
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: time we're actually ready to start colonizing other planets in earnest,

567
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: most of the manual labor is gonna be done by machines.

568
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: And so the guy that's got to maintain the machines

569
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: and that'll be that'll be a high skilled job. It's

570
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: not gonna he's not gonna be some second dumbass, okay,

571
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: And so yeah, you're not gonna be taking anything. The

572
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: other thing about it, too, is creating your elite society.

573
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: When you're talking about the kind of money they're talking

574
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: about to create a whole new solar system in our

575
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: solar system. With that kind of money, you could very

576
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: easily just buy a continent here on Earth and just

577
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: move everybody out of it. But you're still on Earth,

578
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: so you're still subject to a certain bozo in a

579
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: certain country who decides he wants to set off nuclear

580
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: bombs and he's just fouled the pools for everybody. That

581
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: can happen, that's true. So you don't have that problem

582
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: if you just leave the pool and go to your own,

583
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, to go to the one next door. I

584
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: suppose it just seems like kind of an expensive solution

585
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: to me, but I suppose that would work well, you know,

586
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: and that's why you're the riff raffles getting left behind. Okay,

587
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: So so who is doing this? Who? Who is the

588
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: group that's going to do this? Are seen Illuminati and

589
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: the second Son. You know, I have seen that it's

590
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: been the Illuminati have been pointed at. I've seen that

591
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: it might be the Freemasons. I've never seen it, the

592
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Shriners or the Moose. I'm pretty sure they can't make

593
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: the trip, but they're actually there's a whole another group

594
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: that I hadn't I've I came across this. I don't

595
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: know if you guys have ever listened to Clyde Lewis.

596
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: He's got a syndicated radio program and he's here in Portland.

597
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: But on his site they started talking about this Jason Society. Yeah,

598
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: you don't know Jason. I didn't know Jason, and so

599
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: I was really really kind of intrigued by this, this

600
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: entire thing made up of super smart scientists that we're

601
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: doing all of these things. And supposedly Jason was originally

602
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: created by President Eisenhower, and I'm gonna I'm just gonna

603
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: read a this is all in quotes here. He put

604
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: together the Jason Scholars to investigate all things cosmic, including

605
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: extraterrestrials UFOs and the so called breakaway group that would

606
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: have to evacuate the planet to start civilization elsewhere. That's

607
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: what Jason was all about. Yes, you're right, is so?

608
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: And there are other grips out there that are they

609
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: are seriously discussing moving humanity, not all of us, but

610
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: but starting us off somewhere else in Mars or new

611
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: stars wherever, to get humanity off the Earth, you know,

612
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: not entirely, but you know, I'm moving us around, spread

613
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: us out. This person in the theory of using like

614
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: hive ships or colony ships is not new. I mean,

615
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: it's been around for a long time. That's how we

616
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: got to America. And actually I'm going to reveal it now.

617
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: We are on one right now. They just haven't told

618
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: the dumbasses to step on you guys know this too, obviously,

619
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: it's really the matrix. Yeah, our listeners are smart enough

620
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: they know about this. Nobody I'll does. Okay, So so

621
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: the Jason Society, they're they're going to figure this out,

622
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna jettison all the good people

623
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: to this new planet. But what is going to stop

624
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: the rest of us here on planet Earth from cobbling

625
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: our own rockets together clampet style and and go into

626
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: the new good neighborhood and moving in and just turning

627
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: the whole thing south on them. Well, they they probably have,

628
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: like you, big lasers and stuff like that. Well, that's

629
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: that's one of the things you show up. They'll probably

630
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: just like vaporize you. I think they have diamondium, diamonium.

631
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: Oh are you talking about the dice sphere? Okay, different things, Okay. Well,

632
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: know what I was getting at was that if their

633
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: plan to do this works, they're gonna cause some cataclysmic

634
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: problems throughout the rest of the Solar System, which is

635
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: going to stop us from being able to get ourselves there.

636
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: Because when this new start throws off, it's going to

637
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: exert a lot of gravity and it's gonna start sucking

638
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: asteroids out of the asteroid belt and pulling them towards itself,

639
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: which is then gonna make you know, the trip between

640
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: the two it's gonna be, you know, going through a minefield,

641
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: and then a lot of those asteroids are going to

642
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: be coming and falling onto this planet, causing just mayhem,

643
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: clause we're now going to be blasted with radiation that

644
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: we weren't set up to deal with in the first place.

645
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: So basically we're all just gonna meld and they We're like,

646
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about them. It's not like

647
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: they're ever going to be able to make it here. Yeah,

648
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. That's not gonna happen though, because

649
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: the planet is just to note a nuclear reaction without

650
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: changing the mass of Jupiter. So it's actually not gonna

651
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: master it's not gonna muck with the horrible mechanics of

652
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: the Solar System right much at all. But it will

653
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: it will change it. The mass of the mass of

654
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: Jupiter won't change. It just becomes an illuminated object rather

655
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: than just you know, one that reflects the light. Now

656
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: it creates its own life. But it's the plan is

657
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: not to change its mass at all. But okay, and

658
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: so I mean, if you really want to turn it

659
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: into a star, you have to add a ton of

660
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: mass to it, more mass than can be found in

661
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: the Solar system. Yeah, so that's the only way to

662
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: do it, and that will definitely mess up our orbit.

663
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: But in the fake science, suddenly it has more influence.

664
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: Overly speaking, Okay, I'm saying the opposite of that. I'm

665
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: saying that I agree that according to your you know,

666
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: the fake theory, right, not the fake theory, but the

667
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: fake science behind it. Yet the conspiracy, all they're doing

668
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: is setting off a nuclear reaction. It's not going to

669
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: change it. It's not going to change anything, So there

670
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: will I mean, so it's you know, still fine. They're

671
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: just trusting that we're all too dumb to figure out

672
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: how to get over there. There was partially true that

673
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: people who can operate a spacecraft with them, they will.

674
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: Actually we know how to get there. Now it's just

675
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: it's too expensive. Yeah yeah, and you know they're going

676
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: to take all the people with the money, so it

677
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. But you know, but I agree that

678
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: if if we're doing it the real way, that's it's

679
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: going to be a problem. Well, let's talk about the

680
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: real way. Let's let's talk about some of the Let's

681
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: talk about the approved science that's not not the alternative

682
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: alternative science. Let's talk about the approved, actual science that

683
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: we get from all of the people who study this

684
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: stuff and seem to be the scholars that most people

685
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: refer to. Let's start with that, talking about that, you know,

686
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: the people that are in the in the employee of

687
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: big oil people that you mean Jason Members. No, no, no,

688
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: not that Jason Members. We're talking about about the guys

689
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: at NASA. The guys, the guys that NASA are part

690
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: of Jason. Maybe they are, of course they are. If

691
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: they're if they're involved in the cover up of Project Lucifer,

692
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: they are part of Jason. Okay, let's go backwards here

693
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's let's roll back and let's talk

694
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: about one of the first problems we have, which Joe

695
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: was just talking about, which was or briefly alluding to,

696
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: which is the source of this nuclear fusion process, which

697
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: is the RTG. RTGs are not atomic war heads. They're

698
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: not something that is weapons grade plutonium. That's actually something

699
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: very different. RTGs use plutonium two thirty eight, which is

700
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: called reactor grade a nuclear weapon uses. I love how

701
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: clever this name is weapons grade plutonium, which is plutonium

702
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: to thirty nine. And the other difference is that inside

703
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: of weapons grade plutonium there is also a very very small,

704
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: like single digit percentage of plutonium to forty, whereas reactor

705
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: grade has more plutonium to forty in it. Now, that's

706
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: an important thing to understand, because it is the plutonium

707
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: to forty that makes it harder to sustain a chain

708
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: reaction in the nuclear project. Is why you might want to,

709
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, put it on something you were blasting into space.

710
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: You'd want something fairly stable tiny little space instead of

711
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: something that you know, if got rubbed the wrong way,

712
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: might just explode, especially if you're shooting it into space

713
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: through her atmosphere. They actually, the way they do it

714
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: in the RTGs is they put them all in like

715
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: their own separate, little little container of minimal radium and

716
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: some other stuff that are basically kind of unbreakable, so

717
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: they can't there's not enough in any one of these

718
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: given containers to actually reach what it's called critical mass.

719
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: Critical well, it helps to make it more stable, but

720
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: also even if it was like weapons grade, there wouldn't

721
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: be enough of it to really, I think, be in

722
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: any given space to actually be enough of a critical

723
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: master to turn into a weapon, even if even if

724
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: you but it might express or whatever, not necessarily probably

725
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: not could escape its containers somehow and scatter around and

726
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: poison a few people. What's about it? So here to

727
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: answer your question, it couldn't explode, Okay, if I understand correctly,

728
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: it's the plutonium to forty that has kind of a

729
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: stabilizing effect on the nuclear process. But in nineteen sixty two,

730
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: the United States did conduct an underground nuclear test with

731
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: non weapons grade plutonium so reactor grade PU two forty.

732
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: They were able to get it to explode. It was

733
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: very difficult and it had an extremely low yield. So

734
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: even though they got it to go off, it wasn't

735
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: as if it was, oh my god, we found the

736
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: mother of all explosions. Well this this sucks. This is

737
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: way less than what we already know how to make.

738
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: But of course you gotta you gotta remember too, we

739
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: only know what's in those RTGs because that's what they

740
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: told us. And that is a beautiful point. Joe, I

741
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that we at least got that

742
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: across that this is everything that is I'm going to

743
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: use the word I'm gonna say documented officially. Maybe maybe

744
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: we're being lied to. Maybe our friends here in the

745
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: next section are right, and what is on the schematic

746
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: is only a portion or actually completely wrong. I don't know,

747
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: totally wrong. Well, it could be, it could have some

748
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: of it, but it's just you know, they've scaled it

749
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: in some way. But what Joe talked about before was

750
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: the fact that it's so difficult to get the plutonium

751
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: in the RTG to go off, and that is because

752
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: of the fact that each of these bits of PU

753
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: two thirty eight I've seen it describe there about the

754
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: size of a marshmallow, and not the little ones that

755
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: you put in your hot coco, but the bigger marshmallow, Yes,

756
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: a jumbo marshmallow, which is then enclosed, as Joe said,

757
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: in a ridium that is then put into a shockproof

758
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: graphite impact shell that is then put into what they

759
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: call a general purpose heat shield module. And they are

760
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: so multilayer wrapped that they cannot come into contact with

761
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: one another. So I mean, if something goes wrong, let's

762
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: say an asteroid comes flying by and smashes into the

763
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: spacecraft rather than jamming them all together. They are going

764
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: to statter in the wind like packing peanuts. They're they're

765
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna spread about. They shouldn't be colliding with each other.

766
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: And even if they do, they they're so wrapped up

767
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: they can't use so they cannot create um that that

768
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: that critical mass. Yeah, and so they can't go critical

769
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: and so yeah yeah, yeah, so they can't get a

770
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: large enough mass together. But of course that's that's only

771
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: according to what they're telling, correct. Now, The thing to

772
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: remember is that, and this is why it's kind of

773
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: difficult to make a fusion reaction or nuclear reaction happen

774
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: in general, is that you need to be able to

775
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: implode all of the material around the bluetonium equally and

776
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: at the same time, so it's from all sides. If

777
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: you only do it from one side, it's not going

778
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: to react. It's not going to create that that fusion,

779
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: so it's not going to go off. So again, that's

780
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: why the packing peanut method is so good, and it's

781
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: actually really hard to create this perfectly ignited system. We

782
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: did it, I mean in the fourties and World War two.

783
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: The US dropped fat Man on Nagasaki. It used this

784
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: implosion trigger mechanism, but it took to you as many

785
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: many years to get it. By the way, we're not

786
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: fusion bombs those we're just atomic bombs. But they use

787
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: that implosion method. One of them did fat Man. Yeah.

788
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: The other to use the gun methods little barrel, Yeah,

789
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: used the gun barrel yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean

790
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: they didn't do it the same the whole time because

791
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: it's not easy to do now. They were essentially the

792
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: prototypes and yeah, it's like that they actually had these

793
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: special little switches and everything that out of themselves are

794
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: not exportable item and everything, just just to make sure

795
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: that all the charges go off a precisely the same time,

796
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: because that's what it is. It's just a sphere of explosive,

797
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: all these different charges with all these wires and switches

798
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: and ignitors going to them, and they've all got to

799
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: go off at precisely the same time. If there's a delay,

800
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. And believe me, you can you can

801
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: wire it up as good as you possibly can, and

802
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: they're actually not going to go off the precisely the

803
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: same time. Like if you and I do it. Yeah,

804
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: here's the question. If you shot something into like Jupiter,

805
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: for instance, is the pressure going to be equal from

806
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: all sides a given time more or less theoretically? Yeah,

807
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: And that's that's where that's why the science, that's why

808
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: it's Jupiter is one of the places that they use

809
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: this idea for because theoretically, as it falls through the

810
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: atmosphere miles and miles and miles and down, the pressure

811
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: is going to be uniform on all sides, even behind,

812
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: on all sides. I mean, it's it's like the pressure

813
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: on a deep sea. Uh, what is the alvin in

814
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: the the autonomous stuff, the autonomous robots to go into

815
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: the Mariannas Trench and stuff like that, the pressure on

816
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: all sides is basically the same. Here's the next question,

817
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: follow up question, the little containers that they put them in.

818
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: How precise is that right? I mean, human error is

819
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: a thing. Manufacturing defects are a thing. So are they

820
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: all so uniformed that they would also deconstruct at the

821
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: same rate? So our they're not. They're not built to

822
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: that kind of set, that kind of specification. Our friends

823
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: who are putting out all of this are under the

824
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: belief that the intense pressure is going to jam everything

825
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: together at such a great force that it won't matter.

826
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: And basically the iridium is going to separate naturally away

827
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: if I understand it correctly, and then the next layer

828
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: of the packaging peanut is going to separate, and they're

829
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: going to kind of condense, you know, based on their

830
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: own densities. They're gonna re reorganize. And I mean, it's

831
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. It's weird science. Some of it

832
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: does make sense. I will give them that from a

833
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: layman's perspective. Some of it makes sense, but some of

834
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't follow the rules of logic that we've learned well.

835
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: And I don't think that. Let's face it, if if

836
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: NASA really intended to do what they're what they're talking

837
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: about here, then they wouldn't have separated all that that

838
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: great plutonium out in all these little containers. They would

839
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: have put it all together where it could actually be

840
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: touched off. If that was maybe they are, but I

841
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think the pressure on Jupiter

842
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: is ever going to be big enough to actually touch

843
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: off usion reaction. Yeah, but there just isn't enough pressure there.

844
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: So let's and let's say let's do this real quick,

845
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: because a lot of this science of how the Sun

846
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: works it's miles above my pay grade. But we talked

847
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: about it a little bit earlier, and I'm not going

848
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: to go I mean, I've got some stuff written here about,

849
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, the combination of helium and the proton to

850
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: proton chain. Like, we don't need to go into all

851
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: of that. As I read this again, Really, what we

852
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: talked about before is it's got to have enough gravity

853
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: to hold that fusion reaction to itself and not let

854
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: it expel everything out. So the science says that Jupiter,

855
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: even if it did create a sustained reaction, would not

856
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: be able to hold it all in. It would burn

857
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 1: up and it doesn't spell it all into space. That's why.

858
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: That's why it needs to be times bigger than it is.

859
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: That gives it the gravity to hold it all together

860
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: at the center and sustaining reaction. Yeah yeah, so so sorry, Jupiter,

861
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: that's why you're a failed star. If you just studied

862
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: for the essay t S you would have made it. No,

863
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: she should have just stopped losing weight, stop diet. Yeah, okay,

864
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: it needs to be a planet. Okay, So we've talked

865
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: about why they're doing this project, Lucifer. We've talked about

866
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: the official why it can't happen science, real science, the

867
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: why it can't happen science. I'm not going to call

868
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: it that because you know, we never turned away theory,

869
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things we do stilly, but

870
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: we do it. Okay, So we're gonna go into the

871
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist section of their science. It's real, why they

872
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: say it's real. So if you remember we talked about

873
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty two nuclear test with reactor grade plutonium,

874
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: will they say, Look, it proves that you can light

875
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: this stuff off, so it is entirely possible. What it

876
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: be safe to say that the similarities are like saying, oh, hey,

877
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: you can light this um sparkler off, or you can

878
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: light this mortar firework off. You can do both, right.

879
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: One is going to create a son, the other is

880
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: what the US did underground. Would that be a fair

881
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: comparison in the most general general way to say it?

882
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: That is not a bad way to look at it, okay,

883
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: because it is technically the same thing right, good at night,

884
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't sustain for very long. It wouldn't be

885
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: very powerful. So yes, I'll give you that. Yeah, I

886
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: think that one of their things they're saying is that

887
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: the Jupiter has more of the constituent elements just right

888
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: there president in the atmosphere to create this chain reaction

889
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: that we don't have in our atmosphere. I don't know,

890
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: and I don't know what if they know, even if

891
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: Jupiter went off, I don't know how long it could

892
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: sustain the reaction. But that's the big problem. Let's move back.

893
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: Remember I talked about we've already talked about this a

894
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: couple of times of Galileo. Yeah, we crashed him into Jupiter.

895
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's him, maybe her it Galileo

896
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: crashed into Jupiter. Well, at that time, there was a

897
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: guy named Jocko vander Warp. Did I see that, right, Joe?

898
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: I have no idea, like all right, Well, he went

899
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: on Coast to Coast am. We've talked about them before,

900
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: the radio program that talks about all of this kind

901
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: of stuff, And he said that the two thousand crashing

902
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: of Galileo. Yah, I said, eight, didn't I you? Oh,

903
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: well it's the two thousand three crashing. Well, not to

904
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: be confused with the two thousand crashing that didn't actually happen,

905
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: right two three crashing of Galileo into Jupiter. He's the

906
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: one who seems to have initially claimed that the plutonium

907
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: in the RTGs was going to implode. His appearance on

908
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: that show was then pick up by another guy UH

909
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: named Richard Hoagland, who said, and Richard Hogeland, by the way,

910
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: believes all things space conspiracy. From what I can gather,

911
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: he he believes that all of the things that we

912
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: see in the photos of Mars are actually old structures

913
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: from a Martian civilization. From generalizing here, but those are

914
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: things that he says well, by the way, he also

915
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: says NASA's covering up that ancient civilization. But he heard

916
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: this stuff from from Vanderwarp and he locked on. He

917
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: got on board then bandwagon, and he just broadcasted. And

918
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: he seems to be one of the major proponents of

919
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: the idea that the black spot that happened a month

920
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: after Galileo crashed. He's the one who seems to be

921
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: the source of the the reporting that that was proof

922
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: that a reaction happened. It just wasn't sustained. So we

923
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: actually can trace this back a little bit to somebody

924
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: to figure out at least where some of these stories

925
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: come from. You know, how often do we talk about this.

926
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: We have no idea who it was. We can't figure

927
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: it out. I think we actually have the too. I mean,

928
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm puzzled by some of the things that he says.

929
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: You think you do have your Yeah, yep, you know,

930
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: if you if you look back far enough, you buy something.

931
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: Find somebody speculating somewhere in popular mechanics way back when

932
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: that maybe we could turn Jupiter into a second Son,

933
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, the idea may have been floating

934
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: around for longer than we know. I'm not really sure. Well,

935
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: according to uh And, in order for this to have happened,

936
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: the explosion on Jupiter would have needed to be two thousand,

937
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: eight hundred times the size of the biggest nuclear bomb

938
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: we ever set off on this planet, which by the way,

939
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: was a big one. That was one of the Soviets

940
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: set off, right, Yeah, they set it off in fifty

941
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: I want to say fifty two, but I don't want

942
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: to lock into that because it's I don't remember the

943
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: exact year, but it was. I almost said a different words,

944
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: really big really really big. Um, so we I mean

945
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: that that yield is phenomenal, and the math again, like

946
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: a lot of this, the math is a little weird.

947
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: But he's saying that NASA is lying and they are

948
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: basically floating these intensely powerful warheads through space under the

949
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: guise of being objects of observation for other planets. Well,

950
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: why did it take a month for us to observe

951
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: the Is it because Jupiter is just so big that

952
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: it's took it took, it took. So, if I understand,

953
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: if I'm I'm reading into what he says, it took

954
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: about two weeks for to fall deep enough into the

955
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: atmosphere of Jupiter for the pressure to become great enough

956
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: to ignite the plutonium, and then it took another two

957
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: weeks for that to radiate back up for us to

958
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 1: be able to see. Yeah, that just doesn't makes sense

959
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: to my brain. But that's why I will be one

960
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: of the people left behind. That's okay, There'll be lots

961
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: of us. It will be a party. But he's saying

962
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: that he's talking about eight hundred times the size of

963
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: that fifty eight megaton bomb, right right. I haven't done

964
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: any any actually calculation to figure out how much plutonium

965
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: you have to have more than I believe you can

966
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: pack on these little spacecraft, that it is an amazingly,

967
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: amazingly pure grade of plutonium that is so real, still

968
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: have to be a lot more than thirty four pounds,

969
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, oh, yeah, no, no, I'm not in

970
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: disagreement with you at all there. It would need to

971
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: be a bunch more. Yeah, not for a bomb that size.

972
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that we have a rocket right now

973
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: that could actually get that to Mars, or excuse me,

974
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: the Jupiter. Yeah, no, we don't want to put it

975
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: into Mars. We don't put it into Jupiter. Well, actually,

976
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: I i'd really actually kind of like preferred to nuke

977
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: Mars because that's the planet that I'm actually really more

978
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: interested in terraforming. We're looking it is not process Elon

979
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: Musk has got this to a planet. He does doesn't

980
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: actually I wanta Okay, it doesn't involve about flying Galileo

981
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: into it though, so that's good news. Sorry, I can't

982
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: help start laughing. Hoagland. Also, he's also the source that

983
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: seems to feel that the whole crashing into Jupiter instead

984
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: of the moons to not contaminate them. He seems to

985
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: be the source of the one saying well, that's a

986
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: total lie. I don't know why, but he is. But

987
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: the last thing I want to talk about here is

988
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier. We've only discussed Jupiter this entire time,

989
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: and soon the spacecraft Cassini is going to be crashed

990
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: into Saturn because it is sad. Yeah, it's been up

991
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: there for seventeen years. I mean it's it's been there

992
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: for a long time. It's running out of power, it's

993
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: at the end of its lifespan, and they're going to

994
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: do the same thing with its they did with Galileo.

995
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: People are now saying, well, they're trying it again. They're

996
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: going to a different planet because it didn't work so

997
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: well the first time. Except there's a massive, massive, massive massive.

998
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: I can't get across how massive this problem is. It's

999
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: about ninety times more massive than Jupiter. Is that Saturday

1000
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: is smaller? Well Jupiter. It's also not a gas giant,

1001
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: is it. Yes, it is a gas giant. I don't know,

1002
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: like or something like that, but but it is. It

1003
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: is smaller on magnitudes of scale. I think it's in

1004
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: terms of mass it's about a third Jupiter mass, which

1005
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: is what we're Yeah, so it's even smaller. So it's

1006
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: gonna be even harder for this to actually work. If

1007
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: indeed this was their plan, like this is the most

1008
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: screwed up plan. If they're like, well, we're gonna do

1009
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: it again, but let's go to the one that's even

1010
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 1: harder this time, it's almost like it's not their plan.

1011
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: It's almost like they're trying to fail. There are there

1012
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: are some cool, interesting, ambitious plans out there, Like there

1013
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: was one that that NASA just floated in February this year,

1014
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: which is basically to put a satellite in the l

1015
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: one orbit between the Sun and Mars. And since the

1016
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: reason Mars doesn't have an atmosphere is because it's it's

1017
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: too close to the Sun and it's n off. No, no,

1018
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: Mars is further from the Sun that we are. Oh

1019
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And Venus actually has more of

1020
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: an atmosphere than we do. Okay, anyway, yeah, but anyway,

1021
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: any thinking, maybe mercury. But but essentially Mars's magnetic field

1022
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: died about three plus billion years Again, it didn't have

1023
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: as much iron in this core. Is that right? I'm

1024
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: not sure exactly why. I remember reading that could be,

1025
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: that could be why, but it's but essentially our magnetic field,

1026
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: believe or not, is protects us from the solar wind

1027
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: and diverses, and and that's what keeps our atmosphere from

1028
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: being stripped away like Mars's atmosphere has been. So there's

1029
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: a plan, and but it's just it's just an idea,

1030
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: so to put it, might to put this thing in

1031
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: orbit between the Sun and Mars might be prohibibly expensive.

1032
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: But if on the other hand, we could do it

1033
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: and be what are they? What are they between? I

1034
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: guess essentially it's a it's gonna be it's going to

1035
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: generate a magnetic field that will essentially protect Mars from

1036
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: the Sun's from the solar wind. It's a really cool

1037
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: idea if it's actually you know, if we can actually

1038
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: afford to do it, because once we had that protection

1039
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: for the Mars's atmosphere, then there's volcanic activity on Mars.

1040
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: It would it would, it would generate an atmosphere and

1041
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: actually a fairly short amount of time, and so between that,

1042
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: maybe dropping a few nukes here and there to kind

1043
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: of encourage the polar caps ice caps to melt a

1044
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: little bit, you know that kind of thing. Uh, Mars

1045
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: could actually be more habitable in not a long period

1046
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: of time. What's not a long period of time? Decades?

1047
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and we're not talking yeah, we're not we're

1048
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: not talking walking around, you know, walking around on the

1049
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: surface without any sort of breathing aid or anything like that.

1050
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as getting into some sort of

1051
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: Earth kind of atmosphere, God knows how long it would

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Speaker 1: take to get everything. Yeah, but in terms of terraforming,

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Speaker 1: terraforming a planet, that's actually one of the quicker ways

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Speaker 1: of going about it some of the other methods that

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Speaker 1: I've heard about. And so it's cool idea. And so

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Speaker 1: there's there are ideas out there to create new and

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Speaker 1: so whenever I hear ideas like Lucifer, for example, I'm

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Speaker 1: always kind of like, yeah, cool, let's create some more

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Speaker 1: habitable planets in our solars. Except that the dumb one, well,

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Speaker 1: that's a dumb idea, it is, it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: dumb idea. I mean, even and it's like we said before,

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Speaker 1: even if Lucifer worked, I really still think that it's

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Speaker 1: going to cause some serious problems inside of our own

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Speaker 1: solar system for no other regions than the radiation well,

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Speaker 1: because you know that's not that much. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: far less than our sun puts out and well, but

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Speaker 1: they're actually further from our planet. I mean even its

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Speaker 1: closest approach, Jupiter is still farther away from us then.

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Speaker 1: But it's going so what I mean by at is

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Speaker 1: not necessarily the cancer causing kind of radiation boil my insides,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's going to create probably some radiant heat,

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Speaker 1: and the impact to our light and their day and

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Speaker 1: night cycles could actually destroy this particular planet because everything

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Speaker 1: is used to a certain amount of time where it

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Speaker 1: is on this globe, and if we suddenly add a

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Speaker 1: second light source, that entire day night cycle is going

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Speaker 1: to be thrown into a tail space. Seriously, doubt that

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Speaker 1: the Jupiter, even if you came a little sun, would

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Speaker 1: be any brighter than a full moon. Well, for me,

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Speaker 1: it's just all the unknowns. I mean, there's literally no

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Speaker 1: way for us to know. Luckily, it's not going to

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Speaker 1: happen anyway, because the only way we're gonna make ye,

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Speaker 1: the only way we can make this happen is either

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Speaker 1: go outside our solar system and get a huge amount

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Speaker 1: of matter to bring back to at a Jupiter or

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Speaker 1: go siphon stuff out of the Sun at it to Jupiter.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the dumb idea. Well, if we had the

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Speaker 1: means to do that, then we can do pretty much anything.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to waste our time trying to create

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Speaker 1: a star out of Jupiter. Could they could essentially build

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Speaker 1: ourselves a giant like orbiting Tiki Torch. Yeah, we don't

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Speaker 1: need We don't need to turn Jupiter the star I

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Speaker 1: am from planet tiki Torch. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I think

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Speaker 1: it's when we get to the point where we had

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Speaker 1: the technical wherewithal to turn Jupiter into a son and

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Speaker 1: I hope we do reaset points someday. We probably won't

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Speaker 1: do it, but it'll be great because having that kind

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Speaker 1: of technical wherewithal means you can do some pretty fantastic things. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because yeah, moving moving that much mass from outside our

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Speaker 1: Solar system to Jupiter, that that would be quite a

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Speaker 1: huge achievement. Yeah, I mean, but that's also that's again

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Speaker 1: that's in the same frame of reference of if what

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Speaker 1: we need is energy to change these particular planets to

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Speaker 1: do stuff, then why don't we do, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Dison's fear, So we're capturing all of the power of

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Speaker 1: this on channeling it somewhere. That seems as just as

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Speaker 1: much of an effort as lighting a gas giant on fire. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it probably makes more sense. There's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that would make more sense, and turning Jupiter into a soun. Okay, anybody,

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Speaker 1: either of you, I think we've walked through most of this.

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Speaker 1: You get anything else, you're kind of spaced out. I

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Speaker 1: see it again. All right, well we're gonna go ahead

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Speaker 1: and wrap this up. You need to worry about that

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Speaker 1: second son. Yeah. A couple of little bits of normal

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Speaker 1: show information here, which is we do have the website.

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Speaker 1: Website is Thinking Sideways podcast dot com. On the website,

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Speaker 1: Jupiter and you feel bad about us talking about your size,

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Speaker 1: send us an email. We will respond to all emails.

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Speaker 1: It does take us some time these days. We're always

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Speaker 1: always trying to keep up on them. But there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of them coming in. But don't yeah, no, don't,

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Speaker 1: don't not send an email because of that. We will reply.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, that is all that I have here,

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Speaker 1: so I guess that we you will just wrap this

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Speaker 1: one up all right to the lot everybody, Space spors

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