1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron Andanian the Car Doctor, nationally recognized 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: auto expert trusted by Mechanics, Weekend wrenchers and vehicle owners alike. 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Ron brings over forty years of hands on experience and 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. Join 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: the Conversation live every Saturday from two to four pm 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: Eastern by calling eight five to five five six zero 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five five 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: six zero ninety nine hundred. Here direct line to honest 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: answers and practical advice. 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Let's get over to the phones. 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: Micah up in Maine. How are you, Micah? I got 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: to get the weather report. What's it like in Maine today? 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: Oh, we're in a heat wave right now. It hit 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: twenty degrees. Everything's going great. 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: Oh boy, it sounds like a day at the shore. 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: So what's going on, buddyd You have a good new 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: year at all? 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: Had a great new year. Things are going really well. 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: And you know with the cold weather, what do you do? 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: You cook minnestroni soup last week, spagetti sauce this week. 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 3: You know it's just going great. 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's technically it's gravy, right, It's not really true. 32 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: I get yelled at by all my Italian friends. It's 33 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: not really sauce. It's gravy. So but in any event, 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 2: how can I help you today? 35 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: I'm calling about batteries and I know that one of 36 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: the things that you say, and you know I follow 37 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: your advice completely and totally, is that batteries are maintenan 38 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: inside them and you should replace them about every five years. 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: And I put it on my calendar, and I'm due 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: for a new battery next month, which would be tomorrow. 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: It's been five years since I put in the last battery, 42 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: and the battery that I have, I got it at 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: Sam's Club Dura Cell. It's got a three year unconditional warranty. 44 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: It's doing just fine, but I just want to make 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: sure that it's ok to I should be replacing it, 46 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: that it's okay to replace it with the same thing, 47 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: because an AGM battery, if I'm going to do that, 48 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: is going to cost me instead of one hundred and 49 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: thirty nine dollars, about two hundred and fifty dollars. The 50 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: one that I has been doing fine. It's a size 51 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: twenty five. I'm not sure if there's anything else I 52 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: should be looking at or be concerned about. No, I 53 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: need to replace it at all. 54 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: You hit all the points, Micah. It's like we talked beforehand, 55 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: which we didn't. You know. I always tell everybody, look 56 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: at warranty, what's the ease of exchange? How easily can 57 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: I get a replacement? Should I need it now? Having 58 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: said that, yes, every five years at a maximum. I 59 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: like to change batteries. I don't even like to test 60 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: a battery after it's four four and a half years old. 61 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: I feel like, what's the point. Hey, hey, you know Michael, 62 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: listen your battery past it's load test here. It is 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: four years old, it passed the load test. But I'm 64 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: also going to tell you, but when we get to 65 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: year five, it's gone. And the reason is obviously because 66 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: of the amount of electronic on cars today. It's it's 67 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: constantly working the battery and as part of the whole 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: electrical system because the battery, you know, a battery is 69 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: not just there to start the car. Obviously, it's its 70 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: main point. It provides the electrical energy to engage the starter, 71 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: but it's also there as an electrical reservoir as the 72 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: alternator is charging and running electrical systems and components, and 73 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: there's there's any excess. I always tell everybody think of 74 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: the battery as the spillover tank, right, It's where all 75 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: the extra electrical energy goes. And you know that's passing 76 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: through the battery that will shorten the life cycle of 77 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: the battery. That will have an effect on durability and 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: dependability when a battery goes dead. And you guys have 79 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: heard me say this now for a while, when a 80 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: battery goes dead on a guy man ego comes out, 81 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: I can walk four hundred miles in my sandals in 82 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: the rain across glass and you know I'll be Okay. 83 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: You know, the fact is though it's a problem, right 84 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: because it's all kinds of it's all kinds of challenges 85 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: and trying to get a jump start today and trying 86 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: to get a replacement back on the road. If a 87 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: woman has a dead battery, it can be a life 88 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: and death situation. And I say that very seriously, and 89 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: regardless of what you are, I'm still going to tell 90 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: you every four to five years, I'm thinking batteries man 91 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: five years at the top. Now, if this was a Honda, 92 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: a Honda Group fifty one battery, and you know when 93 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: we say group size, it's the physical dimension of the battery. 94 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: It's not necessarily an indication of electrical energy. But it 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: seems that Honda Group fifty ones still lead the industry 96 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: as the most common to fail battery, typically in the 97 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: three to four year range. And you know, again, everything 98 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: starts with a battery, and that's no pun And it 99 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: really kind of comes back to that, what would I 100 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: do to you in terms of what would I do 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: for your question, Micah, I would do exactly what you're doing. 102 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: You found somebody that's selling a battery that warranty, no 103 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: questions asked three years it meets your price point, You've 104 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: purchased it already, you've got history. I know of no 105 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: reason not to use that to go and venture with 106 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: somebody else unless you are moving, you know, unless price Club, 107 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: Sam's Club, whatever it is closed down and you couldn't 108 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: get it from there anymore. Because just as important as 109 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: what you buy, it's who you buy it from, right 110 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: And you know, will they will, they will, they take 111 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: care of you. And I know you're like that, You're 112 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: you're You're just like me in a lot of aspects 113 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: in the sense that we want a relationship with that 114 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: person or that place that we know we're going to 115 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: get taken care of, but we're not going to take 116 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: be taking advantage of. And that's really the key. But 117 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: you're doing and saying and hitting all the right points, Micah, 118 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: change the battery, get it from Sam's Club. You'll be fine. 119 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: Well, that's what I plan on doing. And I got 120 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: another quick question for you, if you have a moment, 121 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: sure I use you. Last hour you talked about a 122 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: fuel tank additive and you mentioned one that I don't 123 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: use because I bought a six pack of Berryman's B twelve, 124 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: which I use every every four every three months, four 125 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: times a year. Am I still with that? 126 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're still okay with that? I think I think 127 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: Berryman makes a good product too. I'm seeing some distribution 128 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: issues right, I'm seeing some distribution issues with Berryman. I 129 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: don't think it's as readily available as it once was, 130 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: so it's a whole lot easier. And that's why we 131 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: in the shop we switched to c our Seat just 132 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: because we can't. For whatever reason, in the last eight 133 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: nine months, we've lost our source for Berryman and we 134 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: haven't been able to maintain it or find it again. 135 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: And a lot of that comes down to that, you know, 136 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: would I use one over the other, I'd have to 137 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: read the specs on the back of the box, you know, 138 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: and always remember what I tell you. When it comes 139 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: to fuel system cleaners, they're only as good as the 140 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: engineering they put into it yesterday as they got ready 141 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: for the engine that's coming tomorrow. So they've always got 142 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: to evolve, they've always got to change, and I'm always 143 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: looking at that. 144 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: I do that a little differently when it comes to 145 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: fuel system cleaners. I go with the one that ron 146 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: An Aian. 147 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: Tells me to you well well, and know that the 148 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: one ron an Anian tells you to use. I've done 149 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: the research, so you know it. It's also coming back 150 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: to that. You know, I'm pretty set in my ways 151 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: in all honesty, and I think you know that about me, 152 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: as most of you guys do. I tend to look 153 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: at certain products and say, it's working, Why change it. 154 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: If you want me to change it, you've got to 155 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: give me a reason. I'm like that with products, with 156 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: parts at the shop, with tools at the shop. I mean, here, 157 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: I'll tell you a story, okay, I'll tell you a 158 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: quick story before we go to break Then So alternators, right, 159 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: And I promised I would never tell this story. So 160 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: I'm breaking a promise. But that's okay. I think it's 161 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: justified here Denso alternators. In the last two years, we 162 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: had several problems with Denso alternators, putting them on cars. 163 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: Start the car up. The first one within five minutes, 164 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: the alternator locked up, didn't work, belt fell off. Had 165 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: to put another alternator on, okay. The second one lasted 166 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: maybe two and a half minutes. The third one started 167 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: the car up, the alternator locked up instantly. Then So 168 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: never really got back to me. They you know, and 169 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: these weren't easy jobs. These were alternators where we had 170 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: to take radiators out and Fender liners out, and you know, 171 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: they were a couple of hours of labor. And you know, 172 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: I've tried not to tell this story on air, but 173 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: I think it's appropriate here. I switched from denso we're 174 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: not doing DNSO anymore. It made me, they made me 175 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: go look for another brand, right, real world decision in 176 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: the shop, right on the front line. The first time 177 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: we had the problem, we went with an alternator out 178 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: of Advance Autoparts, and their car Quest line of rotating 179 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: electrical has always been good. Right, It isn't as easily available, 180 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: or wasn't at the time, But I had a heart 181 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: to heart talk after the third episode with the manager 182 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: at the local Advance and he's increased the coverage and 183 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: now he handles all my rotating electrical By that I 184 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: mean starters and alternators. The car Quest Advanced line of 185 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: rotating electrical has been great. And you know there's a 186 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: reason why changed. I changed because I had specific problems 187 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: that weren't addressed. You're gonna buy that battery from Sam's 188 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: Club because why, you've had a great experience. 189 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: There, right, And not only that, you know, it varies 190 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: from place to place. You know, I bought things a 191 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: Sam's Club at Costco, Price Clubs, whatever. But I happen 192 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: to know that the people that work in the auto department, 193 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: the tires and battery place at this particular SAMs Club, 194 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: they do good work and so I can trust them 195 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: to install it appropriately. And you can't always find that 196 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: at the same at the big right stores like that. 197 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: You know, real quick, I've got like a minute and 198 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: a half before Tom will yell at me. We needed 199 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: to fix a snowblower at the shop and we needed 200 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: to get the pulse start recoil. We ordered the pull 201 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,479 Speaker 2: start recoil from a company called RCPW Sohars out of Ohio. 202 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: I've been dealing with them for the better part of 203 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: twenty almost twenty five years. They've been nothing short of 204 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: phenomenal each and every time. Well, this time there was 205 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: a problem. The part showed up and it was wrong 206 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: in the box, and they were like, yes, send it 207 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: back and we'll get you another one, but you're gonna 208 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: have to go through ordering. And one thing led to another. 209 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: I finally found the right guy, Kurt out in the 210 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: warehouse Kurt understood what was going on right away. He 211 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: jumped on it with Jennifer, and between the two of them, 212 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: they solved my problem. They recognized the value of a 213 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: customers as much of the company does. They recognize the 214 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: value of a customer. They made sure I got taken 215 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: care of and the problem is solved. You know a 216 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: lot of what we do in our interactions as human beings, 217 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: we just want to be respected and have our problem solved. 218 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Me I'm not looking to cheat anybody. I just I 219 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: just want what I you know, what I'm entitled to. 220 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: You're the same way, and I think the majority of 221 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: people are the same way, the ones that are looking 222 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: to gouge, you know what, You recognize them easily in 223 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: this day and age, and you know to stay away. 224 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: So but absolutely you treat people with courtesy and typically 225 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: you get courtesy back. 226 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: You get courtesy back. Michael, you be well, go get 227 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: your battery, and you have a great time. Enjoy the 228 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: rest of the weekend. I'm running ending in the car, doctor. 229 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. Hey, let's keep it 230 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: moving along. We got a lot of calls. Don't finish up, 231 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: you know, or let's go over to Tim in Pennsylvania, 232 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: twenty three hundred, Civic Tim. Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 233 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: How can I. 234 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: Help question about some of the new technology like CVTs, 235 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 4: you know, the transmissions and this system that shuts the 236 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 4: engine off, you know when you're sitting at a stop 237 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: sign or in a red light. Right, Just you're curious 238 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: if you know what your experience is as far as 239 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: maintenance issues with that. 240 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: So let's let's talk about the second part of that 241 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: first start stop. It's only come out in the last oh, 242 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, eight to ten months. The industry is 243 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: seeing more issues would start stop in areas that they 244 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: really weren't expecting, primarily on a lot of vehicles with 245 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: variable valve timing. Now watch this, it's really kind of 246 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: strange how we got here. So variable valve timing will 247 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: alter camshaft crank shaft relationship. Right, if we think of 248 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: a bicycle sprocket. If we put the pedals at a 249 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: horizontal position and we put a red dot at the 250 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: top of each sprocket rotated around once. If the ratio 251 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: is the same, the red dot's going to come back 252 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 2: up top again and again and again. Okay, if we 253 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: wanted to get more power and advance the Sprocket because 254 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: advancing the Camsprocket gave us a little bit more of 255 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: a fuel charge into the cylinder early, or change the 256 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: position of the bicycle pedal so we could get up 257 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: the hill easier. That would vary cam timing VVT right, 258 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: So they vary valve timing by using oil, oil pressure 259 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: and an actuator and a control so on it or 260 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: a control device. They're finding that on start stop vehicles 261 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: when oil changes aren't done either proper viscous city, proper 262 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: oil enough oil that that sudden shock of on off, 263 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: on off, on off bangs that VVT actuator that sprocket 264 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: a little hard, and over time they're seeing failures sooner 265 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: than expected. So the moral to the story is start 266 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 2: stop is here. I don't necessarily agree with it. I 267 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: understand what they're trying to do, But if I've got 268 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: a vehicle with start stop, I'm really going to stay 269 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: on top of my oil changes, okay, and I'm gonna 270 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: if anything, you know, synthetic oil, good filter every five 271 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: to six. It still it still pays a big dividend. 272 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: And when I say five to six I mean every 273 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: five to six months, every five to six thousand miles. Tim, 274 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 2: all right, you know I still stand by my often 275 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: quoted phrase about cars are like kids. When they're young 276 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: and new, they can fall down the stairs, head over heels, 277 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: they pop up. They're great when they get to middle 278 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: age and they get past fifty, Yeah, not so much so. 279 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: That oil change you do now helps you longevity later on. 280 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: That's the oil change part of the question, or the 281 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: start stop part of your question. CVT that CVET, that 282 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: constant variable transmission, which is a belt driven dual pully 283 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: alternating diameter to create and make the transmission go type 284 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: of transmission. 285 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: Right. 286 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: CBTs were used back in the seventies. Did you know that? 287 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: I did not. 288 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: Do you know what they first appeared on? This will 289 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: really cook you, all right. CVTs were originally on snowmobiles. 290 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: It was the idea, it was a snow bill. It 291 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: was the belt pulley drive system. Arctic Cat I think 292 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: was the first CBT snowmobile, way back in the seventies. 293 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: Don't ask me why I remember that, But the point 294 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: being that the concept of a CVT is not really new. 295 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: It's just been expanded now to include automotive. We typically 296 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: do you know, on West Prospect Street. I'm going to 297 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: talk about it from the shop, right, So we typically 298 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: do CVT fluid service around the fifty thousand mile mark. 299 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, and I'm thinking about this, 300 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: we've never changed the CVT trans that's got to say 301 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: something right. Actually, actually I take that back. We had 302 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: one subar rue we had to do just one. But 303 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: that still says something right. So you know, that fluid 304 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: maintenance you do really comes back to promote longevity. Do 305 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: I think you can drive a CVET transmission vehicle and 306 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: never have to put a trans in it? And I 307 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: think that's probably unrealistic. I think cars now have become 308 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: a cost per mile kind of operation, right, and you 309 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: know you've got to set some sort of goal and 310 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: standard that twenty three Honda. Honda's not what it once was, 311 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: still a good car. You know, a lot of the 312 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: four cylinder Civics, a lot of the four cylinder Hondas 313 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: are the eighteens, the nineteens are going through head gasket issues. 314 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: They get to the fifty sixty thousand mile and there 315 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: seems to be an abundance of head gasket failures on 316 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: these cars. And you know, one of the reasons I'm 317 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: reading is because now everything the engines are smaller, and 318 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: on the uncertain Honda Spore cylinders, the distance between cylinders 319 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: is so tight the amount of head gasket material there 320 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: has shrunk, so they get hit with boost from the 321 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: turbo and over a repaird time. You know, constant pressure, 322 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: constant pressure, constant pressure. We've got issues where we get 323 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: a head gasket failure. What am I telling you? Change 324 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: your fluids? Good quality stuff. If enough is good, more 325 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: is better, and too much is just enough? Fair? 326 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: Fair enough? 327 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: All right? 328 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 5: Kid? 329 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, ye have time for just a personal experience. 330 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what if you can. I've got about 331 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: a minute, So let me say it like this. I do, 332 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna hold you. I'll tell you what, start 333 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: to tell the story, and I'll cut you short where 334 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: I have to, and I'll hold you to the other 335 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: side of the break. 336 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: Go ahead, okay, Pennsylvania. We have to get annual inspections, 337 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 4: safety inspections. I had a regular mechanic i'd go to 338 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 4: and he's so busy. He kind of peers through the 339 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: wheels to check the brake linings and things. Like that, 340 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 4: you know, brake pads, and I didn't feel real good 341 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 4: about that. Second vehicle needs inspected. I go to a 342 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: local guy here, young guy, of course, everybody's young at 343 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 4: my age mid forties. He pulled two wheels, did a 344 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 4: really good inspection, put the wheels back on, torqued him down, 345 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 4: and he charged me less money. And I said, no, 346 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: that's too much work for sixty five bucks. So I 347 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 4: gave maybe. 348 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: And you know what, that's a good way to look 349 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: at it. It's like when I go to the diner, 350 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: I always tip more than what's normally expected just because 351 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: I get good service. And I applaud you for recognizing that, 352 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: tim And you know what, You're going to build a 353 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: relationship with this guy, and you're going to go back 354 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: to him over and over again, and you're going to 355 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 2: get value for what you spend. You're doing a great job. 356 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: I'm ronning eighty in the car. Doctor, I'll be back 357 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: right after this. 358 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 6: The streets of the olden road. 359 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: He's a right and he's help run keep your. 360 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 7: Doctor. 361 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: They're getting a little Mormon tabernacle choirsh aren't they They 362 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: really are? 363 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: But again, well they are, but you know they had 364 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: to work off all that energy because they've been using 365 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: their grill and heating burgers and all that stuff. 366 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: I understand that, but you know, it sounds like I 367 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: expect to see Belushi and Acroyd dancing down the aisle. 368 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: Let's go to Derek and West Virginia. 369 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: Derek. 370 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, How can I help? 371 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 7: Why you doing? 372 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 4: Yes? 373 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: Sir? Tell me the story. 374 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 5: Okay, twenty fusion front one drive, the flex fuel. I 375 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 5: recently hit it, well, not recently this summer. I had 376 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 5: an animal. I thought it was a skunk in a 377 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 5: pand a dog. 378 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: Excuse the languish. 379 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 5: So what happened was is that the I ripped out 380 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 5: the condenser, ripped out the transmission and broke the transmission 381 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: bracket and bent some framing underneath there. So I went 382 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 5: to a radiator shop. Remember that. So I went to 383 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 5: a radiator shop and I had them fix it. Okay, 384 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 5: So when I left the car overheated and reasonably overheated, 385 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 5: was because they didn't contempt. They didn't after it did 386 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 5: one recycle, they didn't put the water, they didn't top 387 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 5: it off, so it vapril of overheated car shut down 388 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 5: and this winter storm hit and I've been noticing a 389 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 5: decline in heat in my vehicle at idle. Now it's 390 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 5: blowing straight cold air. So the reservoir tank was a 391 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 5: little I filed it up. I got a little bit 392 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 5: more heat out of it. I was squeezing the radiator hose, 393 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 5: tapping on the thermostat and called the trans radiator shop 394 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 5: and they, I mean, I was a mechanic in the army, 395 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 5: just they were veteran. And I know that most issues 396 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 5: that happened with the vehicle is pretty simple. So I'm 397 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 5: stumped on this one. 398 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 2: All right, let's let's let's let's back up a second. 399 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: So is this overheating at idle or it has no 400 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: heat at idle? 401 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 5: No heat at idle. It is not overheating. There's nothing 402 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 5: wrong with overheating, none of that. 403 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So it's not that the engine's overheating. You have 404 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: no heat output at idle. 405 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 5: At idle, whenever I stepped on the gas for about 406 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 5: twenty five on RPMs for a couple minutes, yes, I'll 407 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 5: get screaming hots. Okay, heat, okay, take off, I'll drive. 408 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: And the cooling and the cooling system is obviously full. Yeah, 409 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: all right, So in my mind, well, that's what I'm thinking. 410 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm thinking it's I'm thinking, I'm thinking you're 411 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: either air bound. 412 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 5: Here. 413 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: Let's let's back up a second. All right, we're gonna 414 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: make some assumptions, which we both know as mechanics is 415 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: a dangerous thing. 416 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: Right. 417 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 2: We're going to assume the we're going to assume the 418 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: thermostatus operating properly. Right, We're going to assume that we've 419 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 2: got good coolant flow through the system. Right, So, you know, 420 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: you feel you feel hoses. The hoses all feel equally warm, 421 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: some hoses feel hotter than the other. When you feel 422 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: those hoses, is at least one of the radiator hoses 423 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: upper or lower, more or less uncomfortable to hold when 424 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: the vehicle's completely warmed up. Nope, No, you know that's 425 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: that's that's an issue, all right every car. Laws of 426 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: physics don't change. It gets up to one hundred and 427 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: eight one hundred and eighty five degrees and the stat opens, 428 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: or one hundred and ninety degrees and the stat opens, 429 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: depending upon which way cooling flow goes. Right, logic would 430 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: dictate that we should have we should have one hose 431 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: kind of uncomfortable to hold. That's that's always been my barometer. 432 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Did they, by chance put 433 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: a thermostat in this car when they did whatever cooling 434 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: system work they did to it? 435 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 4: H No, they didn't. 436 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: Okay, could the so here, let's do this. Let's talk 437 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: about let's find what's good by chance? Would you have 438 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: a basic scan tool? 439 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: No? 440 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 5: Okay, I have it ranting yeah oo, night shift, and 441 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 5: I don't have it like a whole lot of time. 442 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: Right, I get it. So so I want to look 443 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: and see what temperature is the engine running? At first 444 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: thought I got I don't think that's all of your problem, 445 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: but I just want to make sure the engine is 446 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: building proper heat. 447 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 5: Fair right, the dash indicator, that's the temperature gauge. There's 448 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 5: nothing fluctuating there. 449 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: Okay? Is it the same? Is it in the same position? 450 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: It always is? 451 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 5: It always is even at idle? All right? I as 452 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 5: opposed to and you know what, it seems kind of 453 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 5: weird that it's kind of low because I have a 454 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 5: remote start in oswall. 455 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: Well, what's what seems kind of low temperature? 456 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 5: The temperature does like it'll be part and idling for 457 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 5: fifteen minutes, and the temperature is not up there right 458 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 5: until I take off. 459 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: The temperature is. 460 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: Right because there's more heat load on an engine to 461 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 2: move the vehicle down through the medium of air. Right, 462 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: So I'm back to my original stup. I'm back to 463 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: my well, I'm back to my original statement. I want 464 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: to know that the thermostat is working properly. I want 465 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: to know that this is allowing the engine to come 466 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: up to minimum temperature. All right. I don't think that's 467 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: I don't think that's good. Well, I don't think that 468 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: that's causing your cold air problem coming out of the 469 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: heater duct, right, But the fact that we've got cooler 470 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 2: than normal heater hoses by feel and the gauge seems 471 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: low tells me that is a potential problem, right, Yeah, agreed. 472 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I want. 473 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: I want I want to verify temperature. I don't want 474 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: to just look for what's bad. I want to look 475 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: for what's good, you know my mantra. Okay, if I 476 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: can prove that the thermostat is operating at speck, all right, 477 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: then I'm starting to think I've got the system is 478 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: more air bound than not. All right. The fact that 479 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: the accident happened back. Well wit the fact that the 480 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: accident happened back and you said in the summer, which 481 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: seven months ago, and the problem has been continuing all along. Yes, 482 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: So now I'm gonna think, am I air bound? Do 483 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: you have an incline? 484 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 5: Yah? 485 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 2: Hang a second here, Derek, do you have an incline 486 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: around the house? 487 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 5: No? 488 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: An uphill? An uphill point? Is there a way you 489 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: could park this car? Is there a way you could 490 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: park this car someplace? You could park this vehicle uphill 491 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: overnight and leave the radiator cap off, the expansion tank 492 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: cap off, fill the bottle, fill the bottle. 493 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 5: You recommend a negative three degrees outside. 494 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's gonna be tough. I mean you're gonna 495 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: have to get the vehicle up to temp. Well, seeing 496 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: now I'm back to that, is the vehicle up to 497 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: tempt such that the thermostat actually opens and and and 498 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: all the components, you know, gain access, because what I'm 499 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: trying to do is burp air. 500 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 4: Right. 501 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 5: That's that's now explain to me again where you're setting. 502 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: You ever been in a house baseboard heating? 503 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 4: Yes? 504 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: Okay, have you ever had a baseboard heating system where 505 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: it's airbound? Either the little either the little pressure bleeders 506 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: don't dump off because they're clogged from calcium, or there's 507 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: something missing or something wrong. The system gets airbound, then 508 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: it doesn't circulate right. So if if by some miracle 509 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: your vehicle has been air bound since August or whenever 510 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: you hit what you hit, I just want to verify, 511 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: can I get air out of this? 512 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 5: All right? 513 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, well, give it, give it a bit 514 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: of an incline doesn't take much an eight ten degrees. 515 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: An eight ten degree incline on a warm engine. I'm 516 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: careful how I take the radiator cap off, so I 517 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 2: don't get scolded. I'm gonna let it sit twenty minutes, 518 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna let it sit with the cap woff overnight, 519 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna put a magic marker on mark on 520 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: the side of the bottle. And if the mark is 521 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: here and all of a sudden I come out the 522 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 2: next morning and it dropped an inch or more, I'm 523 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: gonna add more coolant, drive it again, and I'm gonna 524 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 2: goodtinue to do that and see if I can cycle 525 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: all of it out. Now there's going to be a 526 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: certain amount of loss or I'm saying, uh, change in 527 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: height of the bottle, just because as it goes from 528 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 2: hot to cold, there's a certain amount of expansion and contraction. 529 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: I just want to make sure I've got air out 530 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: of this, because that heater core in that car sits 531 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: down low. If you look where the hoses go, it 532 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 2: kind of goes down low behind the engine. And it's 533 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 2: real easy for these things to get airbound. But I 534 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: still want to know. I still want to know that 535 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: that engine comes up to temp. Go ahead real quick. 536 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 5: So here's here's a no thing. Is that whenever I 537 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 5: step whenever I pull off the accelerator, it starts getting cold. 538 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 5: I can be driving all day long, I can be 539 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 5: driving here to California and back, and if I'm stepping 540 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 5: off the gas, if I'm pulling off, the gas starts 541 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: getting colder, right. 542 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 2: Because because well, yeah, that's an indication of airbound. Sure, 543 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: that's an indication of airbound. Because the system's got air 544 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: and you're squeezing some coolant where it's not trying to go. 545 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: It's as it's fighting the air pocket. And as you 546 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: back off the accelerator, the water pump spins slower, and 547 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you get to the point 548 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: where you're back at idle and now it's cold again. 549 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: But do those things? Do it like that? You give 550 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: me a call back next week. I'm happy to help you, brother, 551 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: but let's take this one step at a time. If 552 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: you can get a scan tool on this and give 553 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: me an actual temper reading, I'd like to know that 554 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: as well. Eight five five five six nine nine zero zero. 555 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: We're back right after this, Keith, Louisiana. Keith, you're still there, sir. 556 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, right here. 557 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 2: Rolling along this hour. How can I help? What's going on? 558 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 6: Okay? I was speaking to the guy prior that accepted 559 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 6: my call. 560 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 7: I have a two thousand and two is old the car, 561 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 7: but it's a good car. Lexus. Right, let's with the 562 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 7: three year z engine, right, and I've been oning it 563 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 7: for about eight years now. 564 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: Right, this is the this is the eighth cylinder, right, Keith. 565 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 6: Yeah V eight right, yeah, mood smooth engine, right. And I. 566 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 7: Tore it down and I did time and belt water, 567 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 7: pump et cetera, yep, yep, and I put a new 568 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 7: crank seal, I said time where everything came out perfect. 569 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 7: But it had been about six thousand miles and I 570 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 7: noticed I'm seeing a little dampness around the crank chefs, 571 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 7: you know, right behind the harmonic balance sheet there. 572 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the so the question becomes, is it the 573 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: seal or is it the you know that that crank 574 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: seal goes into I'm trying to think. I had to 575 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: describe it like an aluminum cover that's part of the 576 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: front of the engine. Correct Am I thinking of this correctly? 577 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: There's a there's there's a cover assembly there. Is it 578 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: the seal or is it that gasket? How many miles 579 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: are on this? That's young. I would I'll tell you what, 580 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: before I tore this down, I would add a I 581 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: would add a fluorescent die to the oil. Run it okay, 582 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: and you know, wipe away what you've got there. Run 583 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: it to the point you're familiar with fluorescent dye method, 584 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: using a black light to look to see that you've 585 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: got an oil stain or a die stain where your 586 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: leak is right, And then I would take it apart 587 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: and look to see is it is it the seal? 588 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: Is it the gasket behind in that flange housing when 589 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: you pulled the seal? Tell me how you pulled the seal. 590 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm not picking on you. I'm just curious how you 591 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: did it. 592 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 6: And to be honest with it, I was amazed how 593 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 6: easy to seal came out, you know, right, you know 594 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 6: I didn't have to pry on it or pull on it. 595 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 6: I just basically just a little chap and it came 596 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 6: out in the shield. I use a piece of PVC 597 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 6: SAM sized and inserted the new crank seal o em. 598 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: All right, when you when you put that seal in, 599 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: you know the garter spring on the back, right, did 600 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: you pack that seal with wheelbaring grease? 601 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 5: No? 602 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: I did, so you just put it in the guard? 603 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: You know, is it? You know, because you have to 604 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: think to yourself, could the garter spring have popped off? 605 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: Although although you would think it would leak before six 606 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: thousand miles right right, And. 607 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 6: It's not super bad. You know, I'm always checking my vehicle, 608 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 6: you know, I. 609 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 7: Love Yeah, I get it, and you know what, you 610 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 7: know what it is. 611 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 6: I might can go five hundred miles and it'll be 612 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 6: a little damness you know around the crank seel cover, right, 613 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 6: you know the plastic cover. And I just noticed, well 614 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 6: some people may not worry about it, but it's just me. 615 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we want to know it because if 616 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: it's getting on the belt over time, it's going to 617 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: hurt the belt. So you know when you pulled that 618 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: seal out, how did you get the seal out? 619 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 6: Are you from the center of the seal with a 620 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 6: little tool with a hook? And I pulled it up 621 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 6: and it came out real easy, right, and I got 622 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 6: you know, it came on super easy. 623 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 5: All right. 624 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Keith, sit tight, let me pull over. 625 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: Take a pause. When we come back, we'll finish up. 626 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm running any and the car doctor. We'll return right 627 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: after this. Let's get back to Keith and Louisiana. Keith, 628 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: you're still there, yes, sir, Take your index finger right, 629 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: point it pointed straight up. You're with me. Bend the tip. 630 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: So it's a hook. I got a tool in my toolbox. 631 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: It's like that, but it's very tiny. And what I 632 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: would do is I would sneak it under the seal 633 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: and that's how I would pull out seals. This is 634 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: when I first started working in the business. And then 635 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: every once in a while I always got nervous because 636 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: you started to look at it and you said, is 637 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: that hard metal surface going against the crank or the 638 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: cam or whatever you're pulling the seal out from. Could 639 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: you scratch it and put a put a little you know, 640 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: scratch mark in it? 641 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: Right? 642 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 6: And you know what, I made sure I didn't do that. 643 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, so as a suggestion what you may 644 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: want to consider. And this takes a steady hand, but 645 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: I've in the last thirty years I've resorted to where 646 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: I will take a small drill, drill a tiny hole, 647 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: put a sheet metal screw in there, and that gives 648 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: me a wedge point, and I'll pop the seal out 649 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: by placing the tip of the small pride bar against 650 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: and pop it out. That that being said, just to 651 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 2: pass along that tip right, Uh, the fact that the 652 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: seal popped out, How did the new seal go in? 653 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: Was it snug? 654 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 6: Yes? 655 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, usually I don't have to I can't 656 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: recall too many times where I've had to use a 657 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: piece of PVC or a driver to Usually I can, 658 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: you know, kind of just get the seal up onto 659 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: the crank or the cam and then just gently massage 660 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: it in and you know, push it in right, right, 661 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: And I. 662 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 6: Just seen to cut you off just video were guy 663 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 6: get it two and three and it sits perfect on 664 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 6: the seal. What I'm right, damaging it just kind of slightly. 665 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: You know, if you think you've got an issue with 666 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 2: that aluminum housing right where it's it's it's it's stretched 667 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: or oversized slightly, you know, I wouldn't be a kin 668 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 2: to putting a real thin beat him. I mean thin 669 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: beat a little RTV there to seal it, dry it 670 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: out real good in the housing and push it on 671 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: and let it get hard. But first thing I would 672 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 2: do before I do anything is I had to die. 673 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: Where's the leak coming from? And then when you take 674 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: it apart, you'll know. Keep me posted, Keith till the 675 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: next time I'm on an ady in the car. 676 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 4: Doctor. 677 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless, and see a doctor. 678 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: Cor Advice to the rit