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Speaker 1: like completely completely enhanced bogus exactly, so I feel like

424
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: they're there. We can relate to these people in some way.

425
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: But what I think you're right, because this show wouldn't

426
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: be effective if it was look at the monkeys in

427
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: the cage we can't relate to. Like, I just watched

428
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: the season where I'm Jay, this guy from Jamaica, he

429
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 1: three days after the wedding to this girl cheats on

430
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: her and she's like, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

431
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this isn't unique to because you're a

432
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: straight people feel about cheating and give me a break.

433
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: But like he cheated, it's over crazy, um, but like um,

434
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: on FISA was it season four? Like a woman who

435
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: likes money who like you hate on Fista for being crazy,

436
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: but also that guy lied to her about how much

437
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: money he had exactly and then that woman and on

438
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: Fisa exists is a figure in America, figure in American society. Not,

439
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: it's not even specific to it's not even specific to

440
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: like immigrants totally. Nicole Buyer says that she she's obsessed

441
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: with the show. And Nicole Buyer says, a part of

442
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: me is convinced that it's anti immigrant Propagain, it's not not.

443
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: But it also doesn't make the Americans look smart. Ever, no, no, no, no,

444
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: it is equal opportunity. Um, it branks on everybody. There's

445
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: one there's one couple that I'm watching now on Before

446
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: the ninety Days and I'm I'm forgetting. But it's it's

447
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: this he goes to I believe Eve Brazil and Paul

448
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: It and Paul and Carini. Oh my god, no, no,

449
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: it's not not pun creany, although the poun cranny stuff

450
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: is dark because he keeps asking her to get pregnancy

451
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: tests and it's like really crazy. He don't speak this thing.

452
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: They do not take the same language at all. He

453
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: makes no effort to learn Portuguese. She's trying to learn English,

454
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: but he it's crazy. Sorry, keep going. So it's it's

455
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: it's wild but comedy Portuguese is bradgi PG, you're lying.

456
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, bra bradge PG. Sorry, I'll let you

457
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: sorry about this is This is all I want to say,

458
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: and that we can go back to Brad and talk

459
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: about it for an hour and a half. Um. But

460
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: my thing on this other couple is that he gets

461
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: there and he's like, I'm in love with her and

462
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: she doesn't show up for Oh, it's the one Marissa

463
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: is her name or Michelle or something, but it takes

464
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: her three hours to show up for their first date

465
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, there and waiting and waiting, waiting. He's like,

466
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna this is the worst day of my life.

467
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: And then she shows up and of course he's in

468
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: love with her and obsessed. Um but no, no, it's

469
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: not even them I'm talking about. It's another one. But

470
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: the girl says, I don't like him, he doesn't like

471
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 1: his pictures. I'm not into it, but I want a

472
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: better life. And I have to say, watching it and

473
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: seeing where she comes from and seeing what her reality is,

474
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't not get it, you know what I mean.

475
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: Like if I'm it's like I'm going to get an

476
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to go to America, and it's like a legit

477
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: thing because this guy is legitimately a love with me,

478
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: and like, this is an opportunity for me. I don't

479
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: begrudge her that, by the way, I do some of

480
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: these In some of these new episodes, America is in

481
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: real time of burning building. It's like, and people are

482
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: still like, I gotta get there. I think I'm gonna

483
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: like it. Here is wars and sucking fires. And I

484
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: will say this too. It makes me think critically about

485
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: marriage because on TV we only see marriage for love,

486
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: and when you think of marriage is honestly more of

487
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: a business partnership between two people. People get married for

488
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: all different reasons if it mutually improves the quality of

489
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: the life. Maybe he just wants a hot girl and

490
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: maybe she just wants to get out of the fucking

491
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: USSR or some ship. If you both win, who are

492
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: we to be critical of? Why exactly married? That's the thing.

493
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: The more I watch it, the freak show aspect fell away,

494
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: and the more I'm like, these two people are trying

495
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: to find something that works for both of them, whatever

496
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: it is, and they understand marriage to be functional because

497
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: in other countries some of these people, marriage is a

498
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: little more like it's arranged, or the one where the

499
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: guy had to go to the Philippines or whatever and

500
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: pay her dowry, had to go buy two cows to

501
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: give her her parents. Like, for us to be critical

502
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: of these people's relationships is to be critical of each

503
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: society's view on marriage. And they're not congruent in any way. Ever. No,

504
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: that's on period, and that's on period. But it's funny,

505
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: like true truly. Twenty minutes after watching it, I was like,

506
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, these people are insane, And then it

507
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: slowly did become No, they're lonely and they want partnership

508
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: and what's so bad about that? And they're there, this

509
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: is the way where they can find it exactly. Just

510
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: you wait until the tell alls, which are like the reunions.

511
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: It feels it's it's even more impactful than like The

512
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 1: Avengers to me, or any crossover event, because it's like

513
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: it's like all of these people, all these people who

514
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: you are only following in their separate little like stories,

515
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: come together and they interact with each other and you're like,

516
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: what the fuck right? Fixing actually, because it's a better

517
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: crossover event than Gold It's fears and then at the

518
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: end someone snaps their finger and half of them disintegrate. No. Um,

519
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: it's very fierce because they will have different opinions. The couples,

520
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: like this one girl was like, yeah on feces, all

521
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: women like money on faces upfront about it, and you

522
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: guys grill her for it at least she's sayings or

523
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: then they're like, um, like that one guy who was like,

524
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: how came you? You never say thank you for all

525
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: the things I do for the baby, and the other

526
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: guys like I watched the season and the whole time

527
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop thinking, that's your wife and baby, why

528
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: do you need her to say thank you? Like, I

529
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: think it's more validating because these are first time reality

530
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: celebrities who have had to deal with comments and you know,

531
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: people who have never been on TV before. They're in

532
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: the comments, they're reading, they're responding, Yeah, they're those people.

533
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: They learn a lot because they're ultimately in a room

534
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: for the first time with the only people who can

535
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: say that they've been through that exactly. Drag Race is

536
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: the only reality TV I've seen really besides this, So

537
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: it's been a good like parlay. This is my first

538
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: reality show to like indulge in. And I feel like

539
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: you would love Loves, you would love the House because

540
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: and now that you've now that you've broken the seal

541
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: in ninety day, like you can watch anything. Yeah, And

542
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: I know some of the girls, so like I did.

543
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: I went to um Lisa vander Pump's house. She's super nice,

544
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: and she was super super nice and it was for

545
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: a thing, and I kind of did have to float

546
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: that I knew more about her than I But then

547
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: I was like, to be honest with you, I don't

548
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: really watch it, which I think she found kind of refreshing. Yeah,

549
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: my boyfriend is like the slum dog millionaire like Encyclopedia

550
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: of Housewives. Yeah, that's why I find it intimidating is

551
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: because how I've seen some of Salt Lake City because

552
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: that was new. But I'm like, how am I supposed

553
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: to start this show? Twelve seasons in? Easier than you think.

554
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: It's easier than you think. You can actually kind of

555
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: jump in anywhere you want and like get on the

556
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: interstate and just like from any point just getting I

557
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: will say I used to be like my boyfriend at

558
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: my boyfriend's house, like whatever, hanging out, and I'd be like,

559
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: you're crazy, that show is so stupid and like months

560
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: in our relationship and be like what did she say

561
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: to her? Yeah exactly, or like like slowly invested. You know,

562
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: it's just about absorption over the long term. When I

563
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: watch these shows, it's like I'm just gonna put this

564
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: is how I do it with ninety Days two. It's

565
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: like I just put it on and it's not osmosis

566
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: and guess and yeah, yeah, yes, and but um, anyway,

567
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: I think you should. I think you can watch anything

568
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: that were we to say that I was just gonna

569
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: suggest to you how I got into it, which is all.

570
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: This is all. I did. Just watch the season of

571
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New York when Brett when Bethany returns. Yeah,

572
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: so Bethany is in the beginning, and then she leaves

573
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: for three or four seasons to go try to start

574
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: a reality a talk show of her own rather and

575
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: do her own spinoffs, and then she comes back to

576
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: New York. And that's where I started. And from there

577
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: I kind of just picked and did whatever I wanted.

578
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: But that was the way I started, and I am

579
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 1: here today the woman I am. Yeah, David has been

580
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: giving me a little bit of a crash course and

581
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: some of the most iconic grallery television. Like during Lockdown,

582
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: we watched Flavor of Love. I've never seen it Flavor Well,

583
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: there's a there's a purity, there's a purity to that.

584
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: And I watched I Love New York and I watched

585
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: The Simple Life, which I loved. David. David was watching

586
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: Top Model, which I watched a few seasons of that

587
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: with him, and I just couldn't believe I've never seen it,

588
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: like these women are being asked to walk in a

589
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: line and say easy Breezy Beautiful cover group and they

590
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: can't do it. You drag Race there like today you're

591
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to start your mom on funding and then

592
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: like we have to do so much to win drag Race.

593
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: That surprises me that you had never seen any of that,

594
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: like like and to Pure, Too Pure, which which we love,

595
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: But you had went on drag Race after being a

596
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: fan of drag Race, or was just because you had

597
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: done drag for so long or both. Every track queen

598
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: who is not on Drag Race says they don't watch it,

599
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: but they do, and they say they wouldn't do it,

600
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: but they would. Of course I would never do that show,

601
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: but yes you would, and so watch That was really

602
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: the only reality show I had ever seen, which I

603
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: think is like why I sort of excelled at it

604
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: a little bit because I didn't have I didn't know

605
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: what I was doing, Like I was just fine. You

606
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: didn't have the filter of I have to be a

607
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: certain way, right, exactly right. It was like my first

608
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: time with cameras around. I don't know how TVs worked

609
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: or anything, which is great about reality because that's how

610
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: you get authentic people. To be authentic, is like you

611
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: get people from Baraboo, Wisconsin, who have a life from

612
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: the Philippines. You know, you don't get more real than that.

613
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: How was that pre interview? Because they watched it at

614
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: the pit stop. Because I watched, I was like, this

615
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: is like immediately tense from the jump. I don't believe

616
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: that for a second. I bet I bet they both

617
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: knew what was happening. It was fine. I think the

618
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: editing made it seem a little bit like, um, it

619
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: was a little bit like Bethany Alma Rossa or something. Yeah,

620
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: I knew that the whole time. I was I literally

621
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: just watched earlier today and I was like, no, they're

622
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: saying that, but the five is good and that was good.

623
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: But she made me laugh because she obviously she watched

624
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: me review Canada's Drag Race, which my job is to

625
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: not ship talk but tell about everything I don't like

626
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: about anything. And then it's like she's the guest and

627
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: she was so nice. But also for I will say,

628
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad she had the balls to like when she

629
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: was like I'd never seen your season and I get

630
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: your famous I was like, that is so funny. Yeah,

631
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: she cracked my ship up. I thought she was great. Also, people.

632
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: I guess thought that we were having sexual tension, were

633
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: you only you can tell us. I didn't think we were.

634
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: But as I need to be hit over the head

635
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: with like flirting, I never know what's happening, like you know,

636
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: like a wine mom will have, like if you're waiting

637
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: for a sign, this is it on the kitchen. That's

638
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: what I need. I need like that big of a sign.

639
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, oh well, let me get my

640
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: pants off, you know, like I need to know what's

641
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: going Yeah, exactly. I feel like the thing too with

642
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: like like you on the pit stop and like this

643
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: is the way that that I know, I know that

644
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: I felt anyway, Boen, probably you agree, But like when

645
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: we were doing the Vulture recaps and like whenever we

646
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: were doing like an episode of a podcast about drag

647
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: race that is also entertainment. So if I go up

648
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: there and I'm like, I think all the queens are amazing,

649
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: And first of all, it's brave that they're going up there,

650
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: especially today when we think it's accepting a nationwide to

651
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: be gay on television, but actually it's really hard. It's like, no, bitch,

652
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: Like I'm actually gonna say if I don't, Like, I know,

653
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a drag queen, and like something you said

654
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: in the documentary is it's like it doesn't make people

655
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: an expert on drag no matter what they think. It

656
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: makes them an expert of being a fan of the

657
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: television show. And I do think I am a huge

658
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: fan of the television show, so I can say that, Like,

659
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: I think Denali is a fucking great performer, and her

660
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: outfits looked whack to me, like on this last episode

661
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: of the show, like that's and me, as a fan

662
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: of the show who has an opinion on the competition,

663
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: should be able to say that. But the discourse around

664
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: drag Race is so heated and crazy and people are

665
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: so invested. It gets me in my head talking about

666
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: the show because of the way people it's like stand

667
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: culture is pop stars and drag Race, you know what

668
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean. Well, and they're really intense and they are

669
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: fiercely defensive of like, yeah, the great thing about Drag

670
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: Race is probably one of the only shows where multiple

671
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: people can feel totally different ways about runways, looks queens

672
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: based on anything anything, Like I love Olivia so much

673
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: she could just do okay that week, and I'm like Olivia,

674
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like I just love who I love.

675
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: So you're getting your head talking about it too, because

676
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in a couple of group threads and everyone

677
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: hates Olivia, and I'm like, I actually think Olivia was good,

678
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. And and then like

679
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: the way it was established in our group that was

680
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: like we keep calling you to a queen the Jester,

681
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: we just keep on your dress and like, wow, Jester flops.

682
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: But then in this last episode, I was like, oh,

683
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: the Jester kind of like down from there, and I

684
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: never hope back to either because like, especially with I

685
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: mean like the fundamentals of drag I will be like

686
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: that wig is rotted, that wis too flat for your

687
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: body shape, your six four, that's a flat wig. Why

688
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: don't you have a shape on Why are you showing

689
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: those shoulders? And if you're gonna show those shoulders, why

690
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: don't you put makeup on them? And it's like people

691
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: think it's so personal, but I'm like, we're critiquing drag.

692
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: It's fun. And with Drag Race, there is like a

693
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: tiered commentary sort of hierarchy to it where it's like

694
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: the reason people watch, like you know, Raj and Raven

695
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: like talk about looks, and the reason people watch like

696
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: you host pit Stop is because it's like, oh, you

697
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: guys have been through this crazy crucible that is the show,

698
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: and so you like people want to hear your input

699
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: because it's it's different than what me whatever, what anyone

700
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: says on some any random group chat. You know what

701
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean, right, And it doesn't mean more more qualify,

702
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: But like I've done it multiple times, lost and one

703
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: plus Christmas plus celebrity drag race, So like, I think

704
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,479
Speaker 1: I have a bit of an idea of what that

705
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: how much heat is really on these people, and I

706
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 1: think I'm forgiving in that way, like if you pull

707
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: a ship runway or like I mean sometimes it's just like, yeah,

708
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: that's garbage. You're I'm not saying you're garbage, but that sucks.

709
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: And I've worn a lot of garbage drag race, are

710
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: you kidding? So, like, we've all done it, We've all

711
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: had bomb runways, like terrible runways, except not all of us.

712
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: Some people like violets of the world, there's people who haven't.

713
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: I know, it's that's kind of frustrating to but then

714
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: also the violets of the world did that have bomb

715
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: runways every single time? Incredible, incredible, incredible usually have flop performances,

716
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: and she had some fucking fulop just like like talk

717
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: about American's Next Top Model not being able to read.

718
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: That's one Season seven acting challenge, like where it was

719
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: like it was like, you guys, we talked about that

720
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: all the time. Which, by the way, back to rescue animals,

721
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: Tempest is your rescues animals all the time. Tempest, She's

722
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: such a time But I love Tempest story. I talked

723
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: to her probably once a month. We're very close, and

724
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: I called her recently because she's where she rescues dogs

725
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: and exotic exotic birds. Like I talked to her recently

726
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm just kind of down because my

727
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: two can got murdered by my rescue dog. And I'm like,

728
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: Tempest is like at home with an emu and a

729
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: two can just vibing. Isn't that crazy? Yeah? But it

730
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: really fucking love Tempest. She had one. She has one

731
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: of the most memorable entrances. Squirted at that baby and

732
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: then can I tell you this is just this is

733
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: just a little like ego stroke but like sent me

734
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: the nicest message I have ever received. Tempests sent me

735
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: like like one of the sweetest DM I'm sorry this

736
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: sounds so obnoxious, but she was like I just wanted

737
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: to say hi, and blah blah blah blah. I was like, Temps,

738
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love you. Literally, I'll freak out

739
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: over any drag creen that's ever been on the show.

740
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: And if Julia Roberts walks down the street, I'm like, no,

741
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not true. But one time I did

742
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: run into Jennifer Garner on the street while I was

743
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: singing for the ride the tour bus I used to

744
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: work for. I was singing Megan Trainer lips are moving

745
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: for a tour bus and Jennifer Garner walked by me

746
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: and was like what And I didn't care at all,

747
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: But then I'll see, like, fucking um, I feel like

748
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: the Magnolia Crawford. Literally, Magnolia Crawford. I would get on

749
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: my knees and stock cock. I swear to god, Magnolia

750
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: Crawford gag. Like, but Jennifer Garner, I don't really care,

751
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: Like these queens are everything to me, Like guess what

752
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we could invite like fucking whoever on

753
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: the show, but like, we didn't reach out to you

754
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: because we assume you'd say no, She's the most famous

755
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: person in the world. It's sixtys are so busy. I

756
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: love doing pods and um it's one of the only

757
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: things they don't have to get in drag Force. So

758
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: I always say, yeah the bald in the Beautiful, which

759
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: you people can subscribe to me and Contie every week.

760
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: You two are truly like on a radio host level,

761
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: just morning show. I just the it's just so quick

762
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: and sharp. I'm like, wow, next week. Next week is

763
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: our on like COVID Portoviy Artist Special, So I'm very excited.

764
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: Boiler alert. I'm not sure I'm allowed to say this,

765
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: but Violet Chop she's going to be on the pit stop.

766
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Want to talk about critiquing drag You want to talk

767
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: about somebody who hates everything? Yeah. I was like crying,

768
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: laughing because I'm like, what do you think of this look?

769
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 1: And She's like, it's not a look. I'm not even

770
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: going to critique. God. I fell into one of those

771
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: wormholes recently, which was like the top one best around

772
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: my looks have all time, and it's like miss Mojo serious.

773
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: First of all, we have to say Miss Mojo gave

774
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: it up for Ms Mojo. Wait, what do we go on?

775
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: What are we just watching? It was like Miss Mojo

776
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: Top ten iconic Glee Characters. It's like number three, Mr

777
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: Shoe And it's always a white women who reads the copy.

778
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: And and Trixie worked her pussy ciss like, yeah, good

779
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: forget when she's dragged the house down, absolutely boots. When

780
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: when she slaid, yeah, grab a bucket and a mop

781
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: with that gradass pussy Trixie's how. I don't know the

782
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: ethnicity of Miss Mojo, but though the voice makes me laugh,

783
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: and the idea that that channel exists and we all

784
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: referred to it at some points, Mojo is culture and

785
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: that's actually a real culture. Number one hundred and six,

786
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Miss Mojo, she is. Miss Mojo is an icon and

787
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: Miss Mojo was getting a Kennedy Center Honors if I

788
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: have anything to say about it. Miss Mojo was actually

789
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: originally the cast of She was originally the host of

790
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: Drag Race, Miss Mojo's Drag Miss Mojo needs to come

791
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: on as a guest judge. We need to finally see

792
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: her face totally Wait, but what I was saying was

793
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: like it was like a top one hundred best looks,

794
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: and like, of course the number one was you already

795
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: know it was when Violet came back for the She's

796
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: A for the Season A finale and the crown was

797
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: in her head. I was like, you can never no

798
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: one could ever touch this, and like so many of

799
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: her looks, like the iconic fucking cinching of that waste,

800
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: like yeah, the guest judge that was so good. We

801
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: had her on the pod and she was go listen

802
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: to it because she was talking about um, how much

803
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 1: she hates kids and drag, which is so fierce because

804
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: I say it uncanceled Violets like a child in a wig.

805
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: Give me a fucking break with Volet kids. And then

806
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: she was talking about um, like when Violet does like

807
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: corporate gigs and they're like, well, how about you are

808
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: a little less sexy, or like how Violet will literally

809
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 1: tell these corporate people, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna

810
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: do and you can record it while it happens or not,

811
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: but I'm not changing it. And Violet has like so

812
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: much conviction about like I didn't start doing drag to

813
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: have anybody tell me anything, which I just she's like

814
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: my idol in that way. People really think she's kind

815
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: of an ice cold bitch, but it's just because she's

816
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: really unflinching about, like I start doing dragged to answer

817
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: to any of you. I love her, she inspires me. Yeah,

818
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: you have to admire someone who like will never ever

819
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: ever um get on the back heel with like some

820
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: beta cuck energy. It's like, oh, you will always always

821
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: always driving. Yeah whatever. She is a little bit like

822
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: she's she's a little bit frosty though. Like one time

823
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: I saw her on tour and I was like like

824
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: backstage with her and I was like, I really liked

825
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: your number and she's like thanks, and I was like,

826
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: I just love the outfit to everything you've been doing

827
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: has been so great. It's like pause and I'm like

828
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: staring and she's like, I liked that one picture of you.

829
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: Like trying to get her to stay one nice thing.

830
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: She was like a picture of you. Yeah. She was

831
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: like exhausted, She's like, oh fine, I liked that one

832
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: picture of you so funny. Oh my god, Okay, so

833
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: I think it might be time to ask the question

834
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: bo oh yeah, oh my God, I can't believe we

835
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: haven't asked. We've just been carried away by conversation. But

836
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: it is time because this is what we do on

837
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: the podcast. We asked everyone except Margaret Show because we

838
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: got too nervous. What was the culture Trixie Mattee that

839
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: made you say culture was for you? Probably probably Buffy

840
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: the Vampire Slayer, Okay, just because it was horror and

841
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: camp in comedy and very moving. Um, it just made

842
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: me think about like what something on TV could make

843
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: me feel and think about like the world and like

844
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: what was possible, And it just changed a lot for me.

845
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know why. I probably just because

846
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: I saw when I was a teenager and I was like, oh,

847
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: this is like and I didn't think about what that

848
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: show is and think about how hard it would have

849
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: been to pitch in the room. This is based off

850
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: a show that a movie that flopped, like what that

851
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: was that was up there for me? And probably the

852
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: Rocky Horror Picture Show. I know that's kind of tired,

853
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: but um, seeing somebody vibrate between genders and gender expressions

854
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: and using it for power was like, Oh, there's something there,

855
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, yeah, I will just come right

856
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: out and say that Buffy has been tough for me

857
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: because se of the guys who have dumped me, our

858
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: Buffy heads are are are David boy And I'm just like,

859
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: I have a hard time watching because I think of

860
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: I think of all these men. That's so weird. You

861
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: constantly date Buffy stands. They happen to be Buffy stands,

862
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what is okay? So do colonize her?

863
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: They all look completely different. The demographics, there's no like

864
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: common demographics except that they're they're gay men or who

865
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: attracted to gay men. And it's like, wait a minute,

866
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: you all love Buffy and you've broken my heart. This

867
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: is crazy. There's got to be something they've driven a

868
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: steak through your heart, even they have, it's just, um,

869
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: I feel like people talk about like the Sopranos change television.

870
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: I think Buffy is a little under celebrated for that.

871
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: And you have to think like Buffy was doing, if

872
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: we want to talk drama acting, they were doing what

873
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: every dramatic show could do, Like they were going that

874
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: deep and they were adding fight sequences like Hollywood level

875
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: special effects every week. Yeah, c g. I she was

876
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: turning it out too for seven years, learning almost scripts

877
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: like every week, Like what, it's amazing she doesn't have

878
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: an Emmy, And then I was just talking about this

879
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: um like scream like the fact that Nev Campbell doesn't

880
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: have like oscars on oscars. For that, I'm like, because

881
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, for women especially, you have to play a

882
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: certain sort of Oh, this is the role you take

883
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: when you want an award, because if there's anything spooky

884
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: or anything funny, we don't respect it, you know what

885
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: I mean. Well, we talk all the time about how

886
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: like there's no world where it's untrue that Rachel McAdams

887
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: is deserving of an Oscar for me and girls. I mean,

888
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: she created a character that will live on forever and

889
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: fucking nailed it and made the movie by doing what

890
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: she did, I could say, likewise, Alicia Silverstone and clueless,

891
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: there was really no one else who could have done

892
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: it like that. And I think it the seems to

893
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: be said for Buffy the Vampire Slider with the Emmys.

894
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: It's just they still do it now. They're sort of

895
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: coming around, but it's really more the sort of prestige

896
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: cable networks that can get fantasy stuff nominated, like Game

897
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: of Thrones, but something on the c W is just

898
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: never really going to break through or the w B

899
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: at that time because the genre things scared them away. Meanwhile,

900
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: like Sarah Michelle Geller was doing an iconic performance that

901
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: has stood the test of time, and it feels like

902
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: at that time they couldn't see it. Whether it was

903
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: the genre of it all, whether it was she was young,

904
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: whether it was whatever the whether it was she was beautiful,

905
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: it was based on a flap like I don't know

906
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: what it was, but it feels like they didn't take

907
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: it seriously. And if you look at the quality of

908
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: the work truly, the range, the depths, the way she

909
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: played that all, like every part of that show was

910
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: super natural of course, but like human life relatable all

911
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: the time, and it just wasn't celebrated enough. And I

912
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: think about that sometimes, but stuff like that gives me hope,

913
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: Like when I hear I always talk about like a

914
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: Jane Jet pitched I Love rock and Roll to Twine

915
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: three record labels and Neil said, no, it's not a hit,

916
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: No one won't like it. Yeah, Wow, Like I love

917
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: Roman Michelle one of my favorite movies. Lisa Kudo wrote

918
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: that ten years before, and then after doing Friends and

919
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: getting famous, she took it to the market again and

920
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: it got bought. Like some things are just timing related

921
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: or it's just like not fair. But like RuPaul has

922
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: thirty five Emmys and Sarah Michelle Gellar doesn't have one

923
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: for Buffy, and I love Drek Grace. I think we're important.

924
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: It's important, like redistribute the wealth of awards. Take one

925
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: of RuPaul's Emmy's and give it to don't even change

926
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: the name play, give one to Charisma carp Hello. I

927
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: literally feel though, like with the Emmy's and ship like that,

928
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: Like once you win one for a certain role, I

929
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: think you should be you should move on, like you've

930
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: won an Emmy for the party, move on. But because

931
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: I feel like it's boring, and I fucking love Julia

932
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: Louie Dreyfuss, Like, don't get me wrong, I think she

933
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: does deserve to win every time she gets nominated, but

934
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: when um, she now every single year in wins and

935
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: wins and wins and wins. The same thing was like

936
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: Brian Cranston for breaking bad, like we know already, let's

937
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: like move on and celebrate something else. I always feel

938
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: like that when something wins for one role every single year,

939
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: or when one show wins every award in a year

940
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: like this year, Whips Creek Like, you can't tell me

941
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: that it was the only comedy deserving of the awards.

942
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: It's just breaking bad. Was to serve so Bob trying

943
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: to get me to watch that for forever, and I

944
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: was like, it's just like a bald white guy with math,

945
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: Like I got that at home, you know what I mean.

946
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: But then when I watched it, I was like, this

947
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: is amazing. I can't belave that show. How they made

948
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: the first season feels so high stakes, and you go,

949
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: where could they go from here? This was crazy? Forget it.

950
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: And by the end of it, like him, I mean,

951
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: it was sobbing, sobbing, I mean crazy. That's how I

952
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: also felt about Um, I don't know. I've rewatched a

953
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: lot of trash during this year, and I rewatched True

954
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: Blood again and I was like, Cant and I were

955
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: both rewatching it. We're both rewatching it, and every time

956
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: I watch it and finish it, I'm still not sure

957
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: I like it, but I watched it. It's true. It's

958
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: mostly I don't want to say trash that's not fair.

959
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 1: Why don't you just say it, well, no, it's it's

960
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: just pulpy, it's just like, yes, it just it just

961
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: you you have such a recency bias with that show,

962
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: like you only all that Maunters is what you just

963
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: saw like ten minutes ago. Because I think True Blood,

964
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the best shows that's been

965
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: on in the past couple of decades. I honestly think

966
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: it's like it literally Trisy walked away. But when you disagree, yes,

967
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: it's like okay, but here thinks The Chilling Adventures of

968
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: Sabrina is one of the best shows. It's not. And

969
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: you're an first of all, it's that's not true. But

970
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: this is why I think it's good, because it was

971
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: supposed to be pulpe and camp and it really was,

972
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: like even when it was horrible, it was horrible with purpose.

973
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: They got like the finest New York stage actors to

974
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: come beyond this trash show, like Routina Wesley. You cannot

975
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: tell me that unbelievable. And also like they got like

976
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: Everan Rachel would like coming in for a minute. Fucking

977
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: Denis Hair. Deniso Hair deserved an oscar for playing for

978
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: playing his role on that show when not an Emmy, unbelievable,

979
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: an oscar, he doesn't for a TV show. Yes, yes, yes, okay, yes,

980
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: I I stand by what I said, but like truly

981
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: shocking television that you're like, what, But that was the

982
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: point and that was what it was supposed to be

983
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: and it delivered on that the whole time. Yes, it

984
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 1: got shitty towards the end, but so does everything else.

985
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: Don't tell me. In Gray's Anatomy's a d F season

986
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: that like True Blood wasn't good after it fucking did

987
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: it six seasons and was like we're out. It was good,

988
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: And honestly, I had never the way that they used

989
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: like being a vampire or like he v to talk

990
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: about things like h a v and race and and

991
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, God hates fangs, like come on, like the

992
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: way that they creatively all that happened. I did like it.

993
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: I've watched it in my life through twice, so I

994
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: can't have hated it. No. Season two and three are

995
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: really good, like this annual of it all a girl

996
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: and fucking Jason Stackhouse could snap my throat. Oh my god. Yeah,

997
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: we talked about him. We talked about a racist I

998
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: just popped out like, yeah, he's what happened? We were

999
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: like what happened to him? It is one of those

1000
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: shows kind of like Looking, where the main character was

1001
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: the least likable looking. I mean Looking was like what

1002
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: was the main character where he's like, am I a

1003
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: top or a bottom? I'm like, how do you not

1004
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: know that? He's literally that was my problem with that

1005
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: bo When did you watch Looking? I never watched. Well,

1006
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: you're it's fine, it's fine, Yeah, it's fine. And my

1007
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: problem with it that was exactly when you're saying, it's

1008
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: like you're third. You're in the show, quote unquote thirty

1009
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: years old, you look like Jonathan Groff, you live in

1010
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: San Francisco, have for years. You're a successful person with

1011
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: friends that go out. You go out all the time,

1012
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: and you haven't figured out like what lube is? Girl.

1013
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I didn't buy it, you know what

1014
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: I mean? And I thought like if they if they

1015
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: made that character, that I would buy that because like

1016
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: I was one of those gay men who didn't know

1017
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: how to have sex, Like I I get it, Like

1018
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: still sometimes yeah, I'm still like arment no, but like

1019
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: it's just kidding everyone. I really know how to fuck

1020
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: um um but no um but um anyway, Uh, that's

1021
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: I didn't buy that show for that reason. I was like,

1022
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: Jonathan Groff has written thousands of dicks, I know it,

1023
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: um and probably even tried it out topping once or twice. Yeah.

1024
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: And I will say back to True Blood to what

1025
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: made that show work is And when I was in

1026
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: school for musical theater, they talked about acting realistically in

1027
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: unrealistic circumstances, and in True Blood they committed to these

1028
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: unrealistic They played everything like it was really. The acting

1029
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: in that show is so good. It's phenomenal, phenomenal. It

1030
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: is girl Jessica, that bitch makes me cry every two episodes,

1031
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: the Queen and Queen Pam or your Girl Pam Chris Stratton,

1032
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: so good, folks. That is just rattling this off. Was

1033
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: a huge fan. Well those are our guests today. I'm

1034
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: just kidding, Oh my god, but no, they were. I

1035
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: mean the way that Pam starts as like a bit

1036
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: and then the more you learn her backstory, like being

1037
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: with the mother of a brothel, You're like, oh, that's

1038
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: would make someone a bit like that. You know, she

1039
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: was trying to do a vampire before her time. Really,

1040
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: they all have edges. I didn't mean to come in

1041
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: here and talk about True Blood, but no we did.

1042
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: I have to ask you, tricky, what are you What

1043
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: are you playing these days? What video games are you playing?

1044
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: Are you playing? I'm a little bit on a hiatus.

1045
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: I completed Pokemon sword um during Christmas and New York

1046
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: Christmas and Thanksgiving bread um, and then uh, I'm playing

1047
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: Cyberpunk seven right now, um, which is really good. I

1048
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: love it. Everybody's complaining that it's so buggy. I'm like,

1049
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: so is Skyrim, so is Fallout. So we're all these

1050
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: big games that I get that. I understand that, like

1051
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: any big budget open world game like this, is bound

1052
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: is bound to run into stuff. What what I think

1053
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: bumps a lot of people is that it had been

1054
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: hyped up over the course of like eight years, eighties

1055
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: seven years. It was eighty seven years, truly eighty seven years,

1056
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: and then um it just the release date kept getting pushed.

1057
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: So it feels that so now, like the narrative is

1058
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: everyone's like we got jilted or we were you know,

1059
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: conned out of this like gameplay experience, and now we

1060
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: have to wait for all these patches and um now

1061
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: there's all this like new stuff coming out where like

1062
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: the demo they released was like, um not an actual

1063
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: demo was just footage or whatever. Like there's all this

1064
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: like shitty stuff now that like makes um CD project

1065
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: rad what of that company is that made? On the

1066
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: witcher is like not a great whatever? I like. I mean,

1067
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: I I'm playing it on a rather like high powered

1068
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: gaming PC, so I know that I don't have the

1069
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: same problems as a lot of people because I don't

1070
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: because it's on consoles. Yeah yeah on PC. I know

1071
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: on PlayStation was literally unplayable for me. It's been a

1072
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: really beautiful game. Um. And the storytelling is good, the

1073
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: animation is good. The imagining of the United States in

1074
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: seven is good. I like it. It's not as bad

1075
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: as what's the take on the US Then I'm curious.

1076
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: I don't play it. It's this high tech city in California, um,

1077
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: and it's called Night City and everything is run by

1078
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: like mega corporate Like the government is just like mega corporations, right, yeah,

1079
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: the mega corporations is basically the government. The police are

1080
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: kind of corrupt. Everything is like basically drugs and sex

1081
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: being sold everything is about drugs and sex and technology,

1082
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: which I mean, I can see it. And then there's

1083
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: been some comments that some of the advertising featured in

1084
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: the game is transphobic, um, which I mean. It really

1085
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: depends on how you viewed, I guess, but I find

1086
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: the experience to be pretty good so far. I've just

1087
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: been dedicating a little less time to play video games

1088
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: because I really will sit here for hours. I know

1089
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: it's it's scary. It's scary, and I'm a big day

1090
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: by daylight girl, so I'll still play that a few

1091
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 1: times that we're cute. Wait, okay, started to such topics

1092
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: so quickly, but we have not talked you and I

1093
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,479
Speaker 1: the three of us about Michelle branch in the way

1094
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: that I would like you to talk about Michelle branch

1095
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: specifically tricks, because that's that's how you and I started.

1096
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: That's how you and I started talking to each other. Right,

1097
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: Like I think, like I like this article on the right,

1098
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: like this interview I did came out where I was

1099
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: just like one of my earliest influences was The Spirit

1100
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: Room by Michelle branch Or. The interview asked me, what's

1101
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: the culture that made you say cultures for you was

1102
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: like Leanders every day and that's what you said. I

1103
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: was like on that day, I was like today, it's

1104
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: today when I think like the other day, I thought, Wow,

1105
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 1: The Spirit Room by Michelle Branch is such a formative

1106
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: album for me. I know every single lyric to that. Remember,

1107
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I am gagging at what is happening right now.

1108
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: Trixie just pulled out her acoustic guitar. That happen Like,

1109
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: I like literally learned to get hard of that music. Like, yes,

1110
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: I can see she really good. She really was to

1111
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: thank you, Oh god, you want to Also, I'll never

1112
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: not like cry to goodbye to you. Oh my god,

1113
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: it's so over. Yes, she really that that like man

1114
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: years old Billie Eilish eat your heart out. Yeah, that

1115
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: whole moment was a good moment like her like the

1116
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: same time, it's like I don't like her, but Avril Levine,

1117
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Vanessa Carlton, like it was very singer songwriter moment. Yeah,

1118
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: And that's when I started playing guitar and everyone you know,

1119
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: guitar is a very male dominated instrument. It's very phallic,

1120
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: it's very aggro, it's aggressive, it's jazzing on it. It

1121
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: comes up your crotch. Right. The guitar has a long

1122
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: penis like top. It's actually a real culture number. The

1123
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: guitar peniss like top. So when I started playing guitar,

1124
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: it's like, no gig, I know, like three gig guys

1125
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: with play guitar. And I'm always like, why was I

1126
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm such a fag. Why was I into guitar? And

1127
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: it's like because I was thirteen when I started. This

1128
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: was a time of Avlavie Michelle Branch Cheryl grow on

1129
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: the radio. Women with guitars were such a thing, so

1130
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: I thought it as like subversive, like women holding this

1131
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: power with this thing interesting tricks. Are you really watching

1132
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: you play, whether it's guitar or auto harp, I'm like,

1133
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: it's really beautiful. I'm sorry, let me just say this,

1134
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: because it's like you look blissed out completely. You look

1135
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: so serene when you play. It's it's so nice. I

1136
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: just I just had to say that they're so good.

1137
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: Do you You're so good? Like no, but like you

1138
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: really are. Like I'm telling you, I don't just buy

1139
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean your your fucking album is going to go

1140
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: in my vinyl collection. Like I truly loved it, Like

1141
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: I I and I really I want to say, like,

1142
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: I loved your first two albums, but this last album

1143
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: I really love and it's almost I hope you take

1144
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: this as a compliment. It's almost giving me like Weezer.

1145
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? That's like a huge compliment. Yeah, it

1146
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: really was giving me Weezer. I was really really enjoying it.

1147
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: And I love them all. I love gold, I love

1148
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: Jesse Jesse, I obviously love Malabo, I love I love

1149
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: the cover Stranger. That's really good. And like, I don't know,

1150
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: I just I hear. Do you love Casey Musgraves? Obviously

1151
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: you do. Of course, I hear so much of her

1152
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: in it, you guys have done. She's a fan, she's

1153
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: a friend, she's a reader. I don't know. Can you

1154
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: imagine if we found out she listened to this podcast,

1155
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: I would die. You guys call him a reader, And

1156
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: when somebody's a fan of me in real life, I

1157
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: call him a friend of the pod, which makes no sense.

1158
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: She's a friend of the pot even before I had

1159
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: a pot of and she's a friend of the pod.

1160
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: But I just thank you. I will say I'm very

1161
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: lucky because people come out of the woodwork and they're like, basically,

1162
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: I get this response a lot, which I find very flattering.

1163
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: People like, Hey, I actually finally listened to your music

1164
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: and it's actually good, which isn't what you guys are saying.

1165
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: But that's what you guys are saying. But it's like

1166
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: people mean that they don't expect it to be good,

1167
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh, this is nice. I appreciate that,

1168
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: because you know, I love Weezer, and my all time

1169
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: favorite band is Fountains of Wayne Verius. Fountains of Wayne.

1170
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: Oh my God, rest in pirest in peace. By the way,

1171
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: I cried not to be gay, but I cried. Our

1172
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: good friend is Rachel Bluman. Um. I couldn't imagine I

1173
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 1: met him. I met Adam once in a pitch meeting

1174
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: for something, and I just was like, I know, this

1175
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: is a serious professional meeting. I have to tell you,

1176
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 1: like Fountains like you guys changed the way I thought

1177
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: about songwriting period forever. And he was just like, oh,

1178
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: thank you, okay, because to him, it's like twenty years

1179
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: always like oh that band, thanks, And I'm like, oh

1180
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: my god, I needn't understand the way Adam Schlesinger writes music.

1181
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: But um, what a funny, talented guy, so talented. But

1182
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: with Barbara, I was just like, well, I've done the

1183
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: country and folk thing, especially living in California, was like,

1184
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: I want to do something really bright and sunshiny in

1185
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: California and listening to like the Go Goes and Weezer

1186
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: and just like, I don't know that album is so

1187
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: fun to make. It's so good, so good. Thank you.

1188
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: You guys are extremely sweet for saying that. I mean,

1189
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: I feel like it was such a weird little risk

1190
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: when I started playing guitar and stuff and drag, but

1191
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: it it had such a better effect than I thought.

1192
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: I thought, like doing comedy people, we're gonna feels like

1193
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do comedy and then you gonna have to

1194
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: deal with the song I'm gonna sing later, okay, And

1195
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: it was The response was very like, surprisingly, very positive always,

1196
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: which has been so nice. Do you think it's that people,

1197
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: even like gay audiences who like love drag race, they

1198
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: just have like a preconceived idea of what drag music

1199
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: is going to be, obviously, because it's like, you know,

1200
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be like cunt cunt pussy. I'm

1201
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: from New York and I walk the walls, and you know,

1202
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: like which we do going to be love that we

1203
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: love it. I mean when I think that Baby's a

1204
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: harrabin a deserve Best Pop Vocal Performance for Jungle Kitty,

1205
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: But I mean, and that's just nothing, that nothing matters,

1206
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: which doesn't um. I will say, we when we roll

1207
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: out albums like this year, we have multiple, multiple records

1208
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: coming out. It's the first time I've said it. We

1209
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: have multiple records coming out, and when we roll out,

1210
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: when we roll out records, we get together and we

1211
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: we I hate to say it. This isn't to throw

1212
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: anybody under the bus. We have to swim upstream with

1213
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: people's opinion of what somebody in a wig could do

1214
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: with music, yeah, or with anything. This is what it

1215
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: is with anything you um, you train an audience to

1216
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: get used to seeing you a certain way. And what

1217
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: if it means and for and for drag race contestants specifically,

1218
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: it means like I either go the way of and

1219
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: and they're not like it's not like a mutually exclusive choice,

1220
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: but it's like I either go the way of like

1221
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: do of doing what is like already in the matrix

1222
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: of like what the outcomes are outside of the show

1223
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: or I do something, but you you even talk about

1224
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: this in moving parts though You're just like I want

1225
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: to like do my whole like Emmy Lou Harris, Loretto,

1226
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: Loretta Lemn Dolly Parton thing. But like people there are

1227
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: people are not used to seeing a drag queen do

1228
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: this on stage the way that I would like to

1229
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, Like I will say, like the first

1230
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: time I pulled out a guitar and started putting it

1231
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: in the stand up every night it was like hour

1232
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: long stand up show. I was in p Town doing

1233
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: a whole summer fifty five shows and every night people

1234
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: be like, oh, the show was funny. I didn't even

1235
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: know you play guitar. I love this here you play

1236
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: and every night it was like, oh, well, there's a

1237
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: world for this. And then when I started playing the harp,

1238
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 1: it was moments where I was just like, I am

1239
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: here in a wig for these people who want they

1240
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: came to like I don't know if they came to

1241
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: see Gotta Got Got, but like I'm going to stay

1242
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: up here and play an appealition focustrument like it's a

1243
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: little wild but character so well, because like it's Dolly

1244
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: Parton calls that immediately and also honesty is you can

1245
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: never doubt that. So like, that's what kind of music

1246
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: came naturally to me. So I can't pull off a

1247
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: purse first because I don't listen to that kind of stuff.

1248
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: But then if you, like I think of people like

1249
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: Blondie or the B fifty two is where it's like

1250
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: these people are wearing wigs and wearing instruments, they just

1251
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: don't call it drag. And then every top star has

1252
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: wigs and lashes on like them. I love them and

1253
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: they and they all do like an acoustic phase. Can

1254
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: I ask you a question from Moving Parts? Because yes,

1255
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: Matt and I rewatched last night. Thank you guys very much.

1256
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: Of course everyone should watch it. It's really great. And

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01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: I feel like Netflix is tough because the algorithm just

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01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: kind of decides for everyone what they're gonna watch. Like,

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01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: so if you missed it, if you missed it when

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01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: it came out, you should check it out. It's really

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01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 1: really good. We looked out when it came out. We

1262
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: were trending on the YouTube like the we were under

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01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: trending and critically acclaimed or whatever for like a month

1264
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: and a half so it really got a lot of exposure.

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01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: We loved out there. There's a partner where you go

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01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: to a viewing party at some bar to watch the

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01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: premier of All Stars three yes, the talentship portion, and

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01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: then it cuts to you seeing moving parts. Um, and

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01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: then I can't tell. I can't because I was expecting

1270
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: like some reaction from you after the fact, But it

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01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: looks it seemed like were you uncomfortable because was that

1272
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: like was that was that what you're speaking to right now?

1273
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: Where you're just like, I'm noticing that the audience is

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01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: um a little confused or disengaged by the idea of

1275
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: seeing a drag queen like with an auto harp playing

1276
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: this song. Yeah, I guess I'm always aware that I'm

1277
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: probably the only one doing that thing. So like, even

1278
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: with this tour grown up, We're here, I'm traveling with

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01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: the band, and I'm like, well, I'm probably the only

1280
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: person who's ever only drag Queen has done this on

1281
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: a scale, so it's always a little bit of a risk.

1282
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: But I guess with moving parts on All Stars, I

1283
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: knew I wouldn't win with that talent, but I also

1284
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: knew this is probably the only time I'll get to

1285
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: do something like this on TV and I'm playing thirty

1286
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: eight strings. I'll never get eliminated for this, Like a

1287
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: out show, you won't get eliminated. And I guess it

1288
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: was a little vulnerable, like I don't know. It was

1289
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: a slow rollout to introduce people who know me from

1290
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: and comedy. It was a weird time to roll out

1291
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: that there's also music and try to get those people

1292
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 1: to do to listen to both. And it's been really nice.

1293
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean, on my shows, it's weird because some people

1294
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: are just there because they like drag Race. Some people

1295
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 1: are there because they've only seen on and they don't

1296
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: even watch. Some people are only there because they only

1297
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 1: know my records. So whatever reason they calm, I try

1298
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: to put something in for that, you know, because like

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01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: grown Up has like fifteen costumes, five wigs, so if

1300
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: you're there for looks, there's looks, you know. Um. But

1301
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: it was always vulnerable. But I like playing my heart

1302
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: when I can. I love playing my guitar too. I

1303
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: just never thought, you know, I grew up playing guitar

1304
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: because I wanted to play music. I never would have

1305
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: thought it would ever be playing it and drag like,

1306
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: of course not, you know, it's just it's so it's

1307
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: great to see like you doing what you truly love,

1308
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: because I think that this is just something I gauge.

1309
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: And you said to talk about this a little bit

1310
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 1: in the documentary too, which is you love drag Race,

1311
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: and like, I'm sure that you um like appreciate the

1312
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: experience of having been on it and everything it's afforded you,

1313
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: but it seems like you don't love being a contestant

1314
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: on the show, you know what I mean, Because it's

1315
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: like it's it's I always feel like drag Race can

1316
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,479
Speaker 1: make it seem to someone that's watching it like, oh,

1317
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: this is measuring how someone is as a drag queen,

1318
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: and the best drag queen will win the show, when

1319
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: that's really not true. Like being good at drag race

1320
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: is a skill in and of itself, and to be

1321
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: someone that walks into drag Race and kills drag Race

1322
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: and wins means in no way that like you are

1323
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: the quote unquote best drag queen. These are all incredible queens.

1324
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: So does that kind of come into your mind when

1325
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: you're on the show, watching yourself on the show, and

1326
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: watching people watch the show, well, I'm not a very

1327
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: good competitor, and competition brings out the best in a

1328
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: lot of people. I wouldn't say it necessarily brings out

1329
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 1: the best in me. And then I think I'm really

1330
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: good at dragging the real world, like the business side

1331
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: of it and and the uniqueness of it, like the

1332
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: marketing of it. Um. I love selling ship, I love

1333
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: writing ship, and so I guess for me, competing on

1334
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: drag race has never been like where I do the best.

1335
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I one, of course, I'm proud of it,

1336
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: especially at All Stars. I'm like, I'm I stand by

1337
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: every runway and every performance. Um, I did a wonderful job,

1338
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: but like I would never want to do it again.

1339
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just not. Have you guys ever been on

1340
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: a reality style competition thing? It's really I was one

1341
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: who wants to be a million I wish doesn't really count.

1342
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: And I hope I've hosted a I host this reality

1343
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: competition show obviously too. I kind of see you haven't

1344
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: competed as a dog yet. No, I haven't competed as

1345
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: a dog, but watch this space. Um No, but it's

1346
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: kind of interesting to like see how the sausage gets

1347
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: made and these are these really are people, thank you. Um,

1348
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: but it really is interesting because like they really are

1349
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: real people. And then when the judging happens, it's really

1350
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: lee what it is like. There's no like producing that

1351
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: goes into like the judging of it all. And that's

1352
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: why I'm always like, oh, this is so interesting because

1353
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: as the host, I kind of was walking to the back,

1354
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: and I assume producers would come back and be like, Okay,

1355
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: so for the narrative, this person needs to win and

1356
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: that you have to be really hard on this person

1357
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: and the judging and that would be kind of guided

1358
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: that way. But at least on our show, that wasn't

1359
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: the way it was, and I would imagine that's actually

1360
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: not the way it is on drag Race because um,

1361
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: sometimes the critiques are so like what that it has

1362
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: to be their real critique, you know what I mean? Yeah,

1363
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: And and the critiques in real life are they take

1364
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: hours for six for the for the three top and

1365
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: three bottom to it takes hours and you see ten

1366
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: minutes of it maybe, and it's so nuanced because everything's

1367
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: also taste. Michelle could love it, Ross could hate it,

1368
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: two different opinions. And I love judges I love everyone.

1369
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: It's four people behind the table. They're not smarting near

1370
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: better than me, And I'm such an asshole. Even on

1371
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: Drag Race in front of Rue Paul, who's flawless. I'm like,

1372
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you're pretty, but mama, yeah, hello, yeah, And

1373
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: you can't really tell me anything. And I think that's

1374
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: why you've been on. Even in season seven and I

1375
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: went home fourth. I remember sitting in the van being like, Okay,

1376
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,520
Speaker 1: well they just told me I wasn't a next drag Superstar,

1377
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: but they don't really have control over that idea. Like

1378
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: I was talking to Violet about this recently and Violet

1379
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: was like, it's crazy to see everything you've done and bought.

1380
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: It's such a wonderful person. But she goes, it's crazy

1381
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: because I didn't see it for you at all. Like, thanks, Violet,

1382
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: thank you so much. But it gets to me you

1383
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: can't let those experiences really define you because those reality

1384
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: shows are so hard to win. Drag Race is so

1385
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: hard to win, especially the all stars format, because it's

1386
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: like a rude Goldberg machine. Don't do too good, but

1387
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: don't do too bad. You kind of have to do

1388
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: what I did and like not eliminate anyone and not

1389
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 1: ever be in the bottom, like that's how to win that.

1390
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 1: I have not been on a reality competition show myself, either,

1391
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: but I to like draw a really like jan Kee

1392
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: parallel analog whatever. Like hearing you talk about drag Race

1393
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 1: just kind of reminds me of SNL and this in

1394
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: the way that it's like people who even audition for

1395
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: ESNL and who don't get it are like, are incredible,

1396
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: and meanwhile I'm over here being like it's it's and

1397
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: it's like what you're saying, It's like, I am a

1398
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: fine comedian, fine comedian, fine writer. I happen to be

1399
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: decently good at us Like on SNL, I'm my skill

1400
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: is being on that show, and it just so happens

1401
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: to be that outside of the show, I'm like doing

1402
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: all these different things where I'm like humbled every fucking

1403
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: moment where I'm like I go onto the set of

1404
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: this like TV show and I'm like, oh, I don't

1405
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: know what the hell I'm doing. It's like, you know,

1406
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: I think it's so valuable for anyone to have like

1407
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,759
Speaker 1: multiple environments where they are being challenged in different ways

1408
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: so that they can be like, oh wait, I'm not

1409
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: deriving all my value and that is so true. It's

1410
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: like I know that. I mean, I'm just gonna acknowledge it.

1411
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: I know that I get a lot of opportunities other

1412
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: drag queens do not get and we'll never get. I know.

1413
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm lucky enough to be the first drag queen to

1414
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: do so many things, and it's like a lot of

1415
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: that is not drag race related. So like I'm lucky

1416
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: to be at a place where people love me from

1417
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: drag race, but they really like me because of the

1418
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: music or the YouTube or whatever. So now it's nice

1419
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: because my worth doesn't hinge on what I did on

1420
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: a TV show years ago exactly. And isn't it nice

1421
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: that you do these live shows and you look in

1422
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: the crowd and you tricks he don't necessarily know what

1423
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: they're here, like how they know you? You know. It's

1424
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: like if I don't even mention drag race and shows,

1425
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: because I feel like you already saw that, like you

1426
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: came from more, you know. And I don't claim to

1427
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: be the best singer, the best dancer, the prettiest that anything,

1428
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: but I just try to do things that like, well,

1429
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 1: this is what I do, and I know other people

1430
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: can't do it, So I'm going to do that more. Yeah,

1431
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: you know, like when Bowen said, like when you see

1432
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: you during your thing, there's obviously so much joy in it.

1433
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: I always like a true hack for anyone that wants

1434
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: to do anything is if you are having fun and

1435
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: you love what you do truly, everyone else will have

1436
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: fun and probably like what you do. Like it's really

1437
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: it's just you just have to. It's truly a trick.

1438
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: But once I think I read it in Amy Poehler's book, Um,

1439
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: it was just like she said something like that's the trick.

1440
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: If you are having fun, other people will have fun.

1441
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: It does not have to be perfect, it does not

1442
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: have to be the best and keep you yes. And

1443
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: people out there that are like determined to critique because

1444
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 1: that's who they are and what they are in the

1445
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: way that they go about life is to um, be

1446
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: very critical and that's how they file things in their brain.

1447
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: That's fine. That is not most people, and that it

1448
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: is probably not the people that are coming to see you.

1449
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: I will say to you like, um, I mean, we

1450
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: could talk about this forever, but you owe it when

1451
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: it comes to listening to the voices, you owe it.

1452
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: The people who love what you do to not pay

1453
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: attention to the people who don't love what you do.

1454
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: That is huge. That's a very only job. Because I've

1455
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: talked like I know, I represent like mediocrity to a

1456
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: lot of people. There are a lot of people who

1457
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: are like that sense of humor does nothing for me,

1458
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: or that music does nothing for me. But that has

1459
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: nothing to do with drug. Queens are so confident because,

1460
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: like I mean, as tricksy, it's like, you can't tell

1461
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: me anything. You can't tell me anything you got. I

1462
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: could be bombing, it could be like Mama, that was

1463
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: a serve, you know, but with drag. Of course we

1464
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: watch for the beads and the sequence in the wigs,

1465
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: but we're really watching because it's inspiring to watch someone

1466
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: believe it and I believe it. You know what I mean,

1467
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: Before you sell it, you gotta buy it yourself. Okay.

1468
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: I'd rather be delusional than depressed. Completely completely, I'd rather

1469
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: be delusional than depressed. Put it on my gravestone. Quantity.

1470
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: It's like it's like uh circuit gaze with clock fans

1471
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: and I'm walking on the stage with an Appalachian harp,

1472
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: like Mama, this is about to be it. I'm about

1473
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: to shut it down, but the secret live. But I

1474
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 1: also knew when I started playing guitar and drag or

1475
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: stuff like that, I knew I had to commit a

1476
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: hundred million for it to sell because you can't go

1477
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: out there, gunshine what you're doing. That's what good can

1478
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: me all the I mean, I was just thinking about

1479
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: this too. It's like comedians, like you're really being paid

1480
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 1: for bravery, and the best comedians are fucking fearless. You

1481
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: go to watch someone be fearless, which is why it's

1482
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable, and someone's trying to stand up and they're scared.

1483
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: I know every time I've had a bad show, I'm

1484
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: like that that audience I wake up the next day.

1485
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: I was later like it was me. Yeah, I went

1486
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 1: into that. You know what I can always tell like

1487
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's because now we've been doing it

1488
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: for so long, and I feel like I've been doing

1489
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: it for so long that there was a period in

1490
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: like I can, like towards the last couple of years

1491
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: of living in New York, like and when I first

1492
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: came to l A where I feel like I could

1493
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: walk out onto a stage and not even think about

1494
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: it and just go and have a good time or whatever.

1495
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: But sometimes, like every every so often, they'll be a

1496
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: period where I'm about to get on stage, and in

1497
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: the minute before or in the thirty seconds before, I'll

1498
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: start to have this let's just forgive me, but the

1499
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: inner saboteur will come in and I'll just be like, oh, no,

1500
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: like is this gonna happen there right now? And I

1501
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: that's a fight or flight moment. It's like I can

1502
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 1: listen to this voice for even one second more about

1503
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: someone that's in the audience, are people that aren't there

1504
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: or whatever, or like maybe I for a second was

1505
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: running my ship and I I stumbled over it even

1506
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: in my head. Whatever it is in that moment, but

1507
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: it's truly defining. I feel like that minute before you

1508
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: get on stage where it's like, oh, what do I

1509
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: do with this? Because it will dictate how the next

1510
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: ten minutes goes, or the next thirty minutes goes, or

1511
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: the next hour and a half goes, depending on what

1512
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: show you're doing. And so it's so it but I

1513
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: so can distill it to myself. You know what it is? True?

1514
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 1: It is, it always is, and that's why at the

1515
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: end of the day you can blame whoever. But usually

1516
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: in the clear light of day, you're like, I let

1517
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: that audience down, I let the no laugh dictate that

1518
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: what the show is going to be like in the

1519
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: first two minutes, I flumble, flummed, like flubbed and never recovered.

1520
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: It's really always you. And that's where you realize like, oh, well,

1521
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: if it's me, I trust myself, so I'm gonna be fine.

1522
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: It kind of goes both ways. I don't know. I

1523
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: feel like we're talking about decades ago when we used

1524
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: to be live performers. I think it will stand up

1525
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: all the time, And I'm like, am I do my

1526
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,520
Speaker 1: credits transfer? Am I gonna have to go like relearn?

1527
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: I don't remember my show. I don't remember my five

1528
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: minutes at my fifteen minutes, said, I don't remember any

1529
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: of them. I think nobody's credits are transferring once, right?

1530
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 1: Are we gonna all have to like go learn stand

1531
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: up again? I think so, because I'm even watching these brave,

1532
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: brave people who it's in the summer at least would

1533
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: do outdoor park shows like standa friends in New York

1534
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: would do out of park shows it's like god less,

1535
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: I can never do that, like God bless you. And

1536
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: then some some people even like like I think Comedy

1537
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: Central even recorded some mount or sets and they're now

1538
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: posting them on Instagram of like comedians we love and

1539
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 1: who are proven quantities, known quantities as far as like

1540
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: their comedy, their voice, who are like playing to these

1541
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: rooms quote unquote that are like patios and where the

1542
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: audience members are like like nervous to laugh and you

1543
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: see it kind of funk with them and like wait

1544
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: a minute, we are all we are all like for

1545
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: better for worse, like kind of flattened to the same,

1546
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: all being like it's like a new like a new computer,

1547
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: new phone. A little bit we all got that, like

1548
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: it's weird. We're all gonna have to rely on instincts

1549
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: and bravery because we don't remember the material. We haven't

1550
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: had life experience for a year to make the material.

1551
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: Like we can't we can't go into the world and

1552
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: talk about COVID. We can't know. No, it won't what

1553
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: we won't. Here's the thing. It's gonna be great because

1554
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: remember as much as the performers are going to be

1555
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: in their head and have to find it. These audiences

1556
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: that come back are going to be so happy to

1557
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: watch something like that, and the audiences are are going

1558
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: to have the back of the performers, and the performers

1559
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: are going to be ready to go. I really feel

1560
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: confident that just the energy of the live audiences when

1561
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 1: they come back, because I've been thinking about this a lot,

1562
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 1: and I just thought, like, not only am I missing performing,

1563
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm also missing going out and seeing things like yes,

1564
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: of course I miss like little social things Like I

1565
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 1: was thinking this morning, like I want to go on

1566
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: a date, you know what I mean, Like I want

1567
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: to dress up, like go to a restaurant and like

1568
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: decide there if I want to suck the guy, you

1569
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I I don't. I don't

1570
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: know how to date and do go about even little

1571
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 1: social things now because you have to have like someone

1572
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: over your house, you go there or whatever. And with performing,

1573
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. I'm getting so used to quote

1574
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: unquote a show being I go on like a Zoom

1575
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 1: show that Joe Kimbooster is hosting, and we shoot the

1576
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: ship for six minutes about whatever. That's not material, you

1577
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's not like a rehearse comedy bit.

1578
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 1: But then I thought more about it, and I was like,

1579
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: you know what, what I miss most of all is

1580
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: just going out and being a art of something that's

1581
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: that's live and electric, and listening to live music and

1582
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: watching live comedy. And I'm gonna be so happy to

1583
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 1: be there when it's all done that I'm actually less

1584
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: concerned about performing when I go back because i can

1585
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: feel myself in the audience and I'm ready to give

1586
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like because I miss that.

1587
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: I miss it so desperately. It's it's I think I

1588
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: can speak for all three of us when I say

1589
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: it's a life force. Yeah, and staying busy the way

1590
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: you guys have, or like if we're being vulnerable, this

1591
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 1: has been probably one of the most I know, we're

1592
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: not supposed to say it, but like, besides, touring is

1593
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: probably one of the most financially viable years. I've been

1594
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: home the most to make the most content. I mean

1595
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,799
Speaker 1: Netflix and my YouTube channel and the pot I've content

1596
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: every day of the week, and so like, in that sense,

1597
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: it's been enriching and it's gonna be people like you

1598
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: and me. If you don't use it, you lose it

1599
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: and those limbs will atrophy and fall off. So some

1600
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: of these drag fans and comedians who are sitting home,

1601
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: they are going to come back and not have it.

1602
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 1: They are because they haven't been stretching. Like you also,

1603
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: can't you run and then go back to marathon running

1604
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: and just expect your body to work. You know, you're

1605
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: leg going to fall off. Girl. You hate to break

1606
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: it to you. Your legs are going to be falling off.

1607
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 1: And it's nice for you guys. Between the pod and

1608
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: S and L and all this stuff, you can at

1609
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 1: least stretch those muscles in a way that's like maybe

1610
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: insulated but still using them, still keeping You know, for sure,

1611
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: if SNL wasn't happening, bone would be dead. I can agree.

1612
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: I can co sign because and every Saturday it's the

1613
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: dress rehearsal audience. It's the dress rehearsal audience that comes in,

1614
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, oh my god, like we're like

1615
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: one of the only places open and existing that they

1616
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: can go see that, yeah, that they can go, Like,

1617
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: I I am so fucking lucky to do this. And

1618
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: then but I was gonna say, like there are some

1619
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: comedians who like just will have the gift no matter

1620
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: what I mean. Maybe this is an a fair example

1621
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: because she she works at SNL. But I was watching

1622
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: like a Zoom stand up show, like back in like April.

1623
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: Roll no, no, not back in April, back in um

1624
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 1: like July UM. And it was anadres and and she

1625
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: was on this Zoom show and she's just like reading

1626
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: jokes that she's written, and she was just kind of

1627
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: reading one. She was with her dog in her living room,

1628
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: but she's just reading these jokes and she's just like,

1629
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: I'm okay, here's something. Um. I was going through old

1630
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: journal entries the other day, but I'm trying to read

1631
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: less books written by white authors, and I was like, oh,

1632
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: you stupid. She was texting me before because she's finally

1633
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: watching for the first time ever. She watched the movie

1634
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: Second Act with JL, and we were like a live

1635
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: texting because she knows that I'm me and of course

1636
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm in I'm gonna be an authority on Second Act

1637
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: by JL. But which is I'm saying it like it's

1638
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: a book that Jlo wrote, It was a film she

1639
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: was in. But she's the best. Um. Listen. We could

1640
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: literally keep talking for hours on and but we I

1641
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: think we should move on to I don't think so honey,

1642
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: because I know, I know this is gonna be a

1643
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: lie because chatter boxes as I've never when they're long.

1644
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: As a listener, I listened to the whole thing so well,

1645
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 1: I'm already like thinking, you need to come back often

1646
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: because we are any of the time of our lives,

1647
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: and this has been a blo I know anybody who's

1648
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 1: a listener of this show dreams to be on this show. Anybody,

1649
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: even performers like they all want to do it. This

1650
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: is I guess the time bone where we do? I

1651
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: don't think, so, honey, would you say, so what is?

1652
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: What is? I don't think so honey. I'm so happy

1653
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: you asked, and I'll tell you now that you did.

1654
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey. Is a sixty second segment? Oh,

1655
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: I know what it is. And so in the sixty

1656
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: seconds we rant, which is like a sort of like

1657
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: an accelerated, elevated way of speaking about a topic in

1658
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: pop culture, which is um popular culture culture that a

1659
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: lot of people enjoy and can experience and can consume.

1660
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: Really it's about consumption at the end of the day,

1661
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: and we can get into whether or not that's healthy

1662
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: or not, how good that is, but that it's about consumption,

1663
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: the capitalists, you know, sort of regime that we live under.

1664
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: We could talk about it, not now but later, um

1665
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: and in that say, seconds, we talked about something in

1666
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: pop culture, rants against it, and it's because we don't

1667
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: like it, that's why rant. Otherwise it will be rave,

1668
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: which is the opposite of front um. So this being

1669
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, usually sort of volleyed around one, two, three,

1670
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: and I usually go first, and I am prepared to

1671
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: do that because I have a thing, okay, interesting, Well,

1672
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: then I have the timer ready to go. This is Rodgers.

1673
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I

1674
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Quote twists end quote on the

1675
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: national anthem. Okay, so today is the inauguration and Lady

1676
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: Gaga is harm in the national anthem. We've probably already

1677
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: seen her do it, because I'm imagining this happens in

1678
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: the morning, but she has announced prior to singing it

1679
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: that she's doing it with a quote unquote twist. I

1680
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. I don't think this is a

1681
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: song that needs a twist. It's not like Willow by

1682
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift that needs like a speaky like cold Soup

1683
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: Goblin Ghost remix of them. This song does not need

1684
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: a twist. This song was written by MS for Into

1685
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 1: Scott Key Honey, and the key is the key. It

1686
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: should be sang in key. We need to be singing

1687
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 1: this song in the correct way. The only way I

1688
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: will say you can make a twist on it is

1689
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: if you sing it like when Houston extra good. Other

1690
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: than that, the last time we saw the National Anthem

1691
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: song with a twist, it was Fergie and while it

1692
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: was gay culture, it was bad. And I don't know

1693
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: if it's better to have that version of I don't

1694
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 1: of the National Anthem or not. I'm gonna say probably yes,

1695
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,839
Speaker 1: but that should be the last twist on the anthem.

1696
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: They're done now, Lady Gaga, no sing it normal. I

1697
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: don't think so. Honey, whoa girl energy? You should storm

1698
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: the capitol, says that baby. Can I just say from

1699
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 1: someone who was there, did I see you climbing in

1700
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 1: the window? It was not. It was not as bad

1701
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: on the ground as it was on TV. I saw

1702
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: somebody climbing in the window and cheating. I was like

1703
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: I sort of like did my over the shoulder gas,

1704
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: like I was actually pretending to be like, um, there

1705
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: was a lot of promising young women that were storming

1706
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: the capital, and I was when you and you were

1707
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: the one who put a pink wig on the flagpole

1708
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 1: because you were representing the barbs. Yes, I was actually

1709
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: so it was people are getting confused. It wasn't just

1710
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: like the proud boys that were storming. It was the

1711
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: proud Boys and the bars and I was sort of

1712
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: the leader of the Yeah, and I was. And I

1713
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: was also chancing hey, Mike Pens, but it was more

1714
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 1: like this, hang Mike pain. Um. But anyway, Yeah, the

1715
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 1: lady gu guys apparently doing a twist on the national anthem.

1716
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Can't wait to find out what that is. I hope

1717
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: it's something simple. I hope it's like a nail reveal

1718
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: or something like low productions, just like nail are a twist. Yeah,

1719
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: I hope it's nothing. I hope she like parts her hair.

1720
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm also so scared for her to be there, like,

1721
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone there. Here's a twist on the

1722
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: national anthem. Don't sing it? You know you wanted a twist. Um,

1723
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: but but I just feel like we don't. It's going

1724
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 1: to she's gonna and then seeing it from the floor,

1725
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: she's even gonna get a yeah, yeah. I want the

1726
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: twist to be the Lady Gaga things that from her

1727
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: home from a secure location, Okay, because I don't need

1728
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: her and the sucking inauguration. I don't need Kamala Harris

1729
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: at the inauguration. I don't need Joe Biden at the inauguration.

1730
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: Why we're not doing like a remote zoom thing is

1731
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: unbelievable to me. It's not like we're not going to

1732
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: be intimidated by terrorists like you should be. I'm that

1733
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 1: home intimidated by terrorists. They're out here promising to come.

1734
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: And I honestly hope that this comes out. This this

1735
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: episode will come out on Inauguration Day, which yes, I

1736
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: can confirm. My building emailed me a week ago, said

1737
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 1: on January twenty, we're gonna be testing the alarm systems.

1738
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: It will be sudden and loud. I was like, Hi,

1739
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: can we move this to any other day? Do you

1740
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: think that, like we could just take one alarming factor

1741
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: away from this day test the alarm system Like I'm

1742
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna be watching the inauguration and panicking because it's the

1743
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: alarm is just screaming at me, like why that day regardless,

1744
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: I digress. I just can't believe we're having it. Changed

1745
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: the alarmed like rain on me or something, you know,

1746
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: like the dound check, but changed the material. Yeah for sure.

1747
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I just don't know why we have

1748
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 1: to do it on that day. But they didn't get

1749
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: back to my email. Um, but anyway, I just I

1750
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 1: don't I'm kind of dumbfounded that we're having the inauguration.

1751
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: I hope that this comes out on the day of

1752
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: the inauguration and it's a non factor because it went

1753
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: well and safely, but it's it's it's jarring to me.

1754
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 1: And the last thing I needed to hear was that

1755
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: Gaga is gonna be there, because of course we need

1756
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 1: also do the twist without saying there's a twist. It's

1757
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: like when people wear revealed, that's obvious. We know there's

1758
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: something under there. When you walk the runway looking like Voldemort,

1759
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: I know that you're taking that off. Of course. That

1760
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 1: is the great myth about the reveal is like that

1761
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: the reveals are going to be good because it's a

1762
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: real you want to reveal. You want to know why

1763
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: Sasha Vlors reveal worked so well because it was an

1764
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: incredible lip sync and because it went with the performance,

1765
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: and because you didn't see it coming. Yes, give me

1766
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: something I have no ideas coming. Yeah, but then you

1767
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: could even have said that you could. I mean it

1768
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: all like heightened to that point though, that's it was

1769
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: part of the narrative, yes, yeah, or like Catia doing

1770
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 1: the Bang reveal, never saw it coming. It's weird, but

1771
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: like when you walk out there in a hefty bag

1772
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: like this and like, I wonder if that's coming off,

1773
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: like anyway, twists on the national anthem, I don't think so, honey. Um,

1774
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that Goga's posting of the twist

1775
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: of telegraphing the twist is saying like working on something fun,

1776
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: can't wait to announce. Oh, it's like Demi Vato being

1777
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 1: like our nation is in such disgrace, I'm going to

1778
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: the studio, yeah, I or like influencers when they're like

1779
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: secret project and it's them in a picture they took

1780
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: six months ago. It's not even related anyway. The girls

1781
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: are trying their best and speaking of trying their best,

1782
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: and I'm going to say ultimately probably really slang and succeeding.

1783
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: This is who is? Who is? I just think one

1784
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: of the I think bon Yang is one of the

1785
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: most important people in the culture. And I think that

1786
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: and I stand and I recently was in reviewed and

1787
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 1: I say, I was asked about Owen Yang and I

1788
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:07,759
Speaker 1: cried no from who I frequently shed shed tears about you.

1789
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 1: Come on, was it a ch angela to cry? Did

1790
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: you like cheat out to the camera and like, did

1791
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: you like make a moment? Sorry, I'm getting emotional. Yes,

1792
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 1: love that love it, which is my way of starting

1793
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: dropping in what in the moment of moving parts were

1794
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: in Catia caused Trixie like one of the best comedicy

1795
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 1: writers like ever. I'm just like, I was like, that's

1796
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: that's that's I'm catty in that moment to you and

1797
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: Matt's Trixie where I'm always like gassing my sister up

1798
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're I'm like, you're incredible anyway, Well,

1799
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 1: I love you right back. Girl. Done it again constantly.

1800
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 1: We love to do that monologue, but with negatives like hey, flop,

1801
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 1: you have again ing the bar for all of us

1802
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: constantly raising the bar for the circus, the circus and

1803
01:29:53,680 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 1: doing it foolish and you wait, is that Wait? Is

1804
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: is it hay clown? Hay clown clown? Okay, you have

1805
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: done it again, constantly raising the bar for the circus.

1806
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,679
Speaker 1: I'd say, I'm surprised, but I know who you are,

1807
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: personal cat, and I get stuck in these rattles where

1808
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 1: we see the same thing over and over again, and

1809
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 1: right now it's Hey over and over again. Yeah, we

1810
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 1: just talked about this on the last weeks episode. We've

1811
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 1: been saying flop for weeks. Yeah, flop. We are obsessed

1812
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 1: with flop. For a while, we were stuck in like

1813
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: we would be in a room together silently, ten minutes

1814
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 1: to go by, and she'd be like, Stacy, did Frederica

1815
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: ever mentioned a Jame gum or a Jamie gum, which

1816
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: is from Silence of the Lamps. Yes, that's me and

1817
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: bowing with them for months we were doing I'm gonna

1818
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 1: have to pass on that one, which is the front

1819
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:51,799
Speaker 1: Gun interview about like rather singers, good writer, good performer,

1820
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 1: young producer, young producer and Sissy's baby. You just get

1821
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: stuck in these like story loops. Yeah, so David David.

1822
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 1: It was watching Um Housewives and one of the trailers

1823
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: ended with someone going, I wouldn't be surprised if we

1824
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 1: never saw an East Richards again, And I was stuck

1825
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 1: saying that for weeks weeks, I'll be taking the trash show,

1826
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't be surprised if we never sawed East

1827
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: Richards again. Also another one is Bowen and I love um.

1828
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: On Real Housewives, they said, um, beast, I'm done talking

1829
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 1: to you, you beast, beast, and then she it's pure evil,

1830
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: pure evil, pure evil. I'm telling you, Trixie, you would

1831
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: love Housewives because you love you love the existence of

1832
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 1: the woman, the desperate woman just micro performances within like

1833
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,600
Speaker 1: within two words like that's just you love the observation

1834
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 1: of the woman who was a laugh away from a tear,

1835
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 1: and that is every single woman who was ever on

1836
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: Real Housewives, and that's why we need to watch it.

1837
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: We get stuck saying, m pretty much. I would let

1838
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 1: Gema know that Gemma is a fat hunt. We get

1839
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: that is a good one. UM in which anything New

1840
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: York says, look at the material is pretty up there

1841
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: to look at the material. Oh my god, New York Yeah,

1842
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: you're a dreamer. Dream at your sleep, don't you sell good?

1843
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: You know what we got? We got stuck on? Um, hey,

1844
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,719
Speaker 1: break a leg? What did you say said? Break a leg?

1845
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm gonna get the part. That's what

1846
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Yes, Okay, Oh, I know those one

1847
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: liners from shows I've never seen. I'm not gonna break

1848
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: it like, I'm gonna get the part. That's what I'm

1849
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna get the part. Assen on pause,

1850
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 1: but I'm play. Yes, So the one that really doesn't

1851
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: get the first fucking night. Yes. Also, Hoops is this

1852
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 1: Hoops is a whore, Her mom's, her grandma's. The biggest

1853
01:32:55,680 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: horror I've ever seen in my entire life. There will

1854
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: never be anyone like New York on reality TV in

1855
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 1: that same context. Oh my god, she invented it. I

1856
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: submit Monique as host of Charm School. Um, the who

1857
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 1: jumped out and then it jumped you exhibited hore like behavior.

1858
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: The whore jumped out and then it jump back in.

1859
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:24,560
Speaker 1: But it jumped out. And when you when you do clownary,

1860
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: the clown comes back to. Yes, it's it's important material.

1861
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: She won an Academy Award deserved it. Also, I've only said,

1862
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: like David was watching Housewives and I got stuck saying,

1863
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: m uh, is it about Tom? It's about Tom? Does that?

1864
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: I don't even know the show? So then things will

1865
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 1: get stuck and like, why is that clinging to my brain?

1866
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 1: It has that effect on you. Lisa Arena is the

1867
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 1: gift that keeps on giving. But she has been for decades,

1868
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: but she recently had a line on Housewives, which was

1869
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: at a reunion. She goes, you liked the tweet, and

1870
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 1: in liking the tweet, it says everything. Every It says

1871
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 1: everything everything, or at least I had that one really good.

1872
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: At least he goes, Oh, you're angry. You're so angry.

1873
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 1: You are so crazy, so crazy, you get it? Who

1874
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 1: told you that? Who told you that angry? It's so

1875
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 1: kind ofcending, like, oh, you're angry. Both of them, both

1876
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: of them knew it was the last scene they would

1877
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: have on the show together, and they're both soap actresses

1878
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 1: that were beat to hell sitting on that couch looking

1879
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 1: at each other half cross legged, knowing it was both

1880
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: their last scenes of the of the season, and they

1881
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: were serving it. I don't know. You gotta get into it.

1882
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 1: Um listen, this is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey.

1883
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: He claims to have a topic and gonna see Bowen.

1884
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah you're I don't think so, honey. Time starts now.

1885
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The relationship between gum health

1886
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: and preventing dementia? Did you guys know about this? Cola

1887
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Scola told me? Or was it Joe Firestone? Someone told

1888
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: me that you have to floss within twelve hours every

1889
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 1: single day, or once you get older, you're going to

1890
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: not remember anything that you form dementia plaques. I don't

1891
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: know if this is real. I haven't actually verified the science,

1892
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 1: but I believe it when I hear my friends tell

1893
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 1: me you have to flostery el soo, you're gonna get Alzheimer's.

1894
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 1: I have a family history. I don't think so many

1895
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: this relationship because I don't want I feel like I'm

1896
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 1: being sort of conned in a way into flossing and

1897
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 1: into maintaining my dental health. But no, I will do

1898
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: anything in my power to prevent Alzheimer's from hitting me.

1899
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna Bells Gray. I'm not gonna become my grandmother.

1900
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to say. It's tragic and cheap and

1901
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: cheap passed. So um, I don't think so many. This

1902
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: new relationship that I have to sort of, this new

1903
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: element of upkeep that I have to incorporate into my life,

1904
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, this um potentially bogus relationship

1905
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,759
Speaker 1: medically that I have to now abide. That's one minute.

1906
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm interested to hear about this as someone with several

1907
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 1: grandparents who passed away of better. Yeah, apparently, but honestly,

1908
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 1: keep it in the teeth, like, just keep the string

1909
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: in the teeth full time, because gums they bleed, girl,

1910
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. But once you get into it,

1911
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 1: once you get into a habit of flossing, they stopped leading.

1912
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: They don't bleed you. Alright, Well, I guess I gotta

1913
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 1: break it in. Alzheimer's isn't funny? However, is something funny

1914
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 1: about forgetting really essential ship in your life? I know

1915
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: this's awful, but in the movie Still Alice, when she

1916
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 1: couldn't find the bathroom in her own home and pistol pants,

1917
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 1: I was laughing so hard. I know that that's awful,

1918
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: but like I cried a lot in that movie. But

1919
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 1: peeing your pants in your own house because you can't

1920
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: find your own bathroom is it is funny? Well, the

1921
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 1: reason you left is because if you're gonna feel cry

1922
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 1: and when you're gonna do that's the thing. Is like,

1923
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 1: I'm I'm already a dripping wet pisces if I'm trying.

1924
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: If I want to find the humor in something that's

1925
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: that's sad, let me because I guarantee you trust me.

1926
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: I feel very sad about it on the inside. And

1927
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 1: that's almost why I'm laughing, because if you don't laugh,

1928
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,600
Speaker 1: you'll cry, And that's where that comes from. But that

1929
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: being sun to the bathroom with my pants and I

1930
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: don't have Alzheimer's, so like yeah, and so what excuse

1931
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 1: do you have? I drink whiskey, not a one, because

1932
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: sometimes I have fireball whiskey with pizza. You might as

1933
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 1: well be still Alice after that girl, Come on diet

1934
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 1: literally wait wait, bow and I wanted to tell you

1935
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: I've been making my own food at home and I

1936
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: don't think cooking my meat right and I feel like

1937
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm shipping like Bow and Yang. It's horrible. Excuse me,

1938
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 1: how are you you're on the record that your ships

1939
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 1: are bad. But how are you cooking your meat? Girl?

1940
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 1: I'll cook it and then I'll just like cast iron

1941
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: skill it or something. Do you think I don't have

1942
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: a cat? Are you? Leg Hottie with the chicken in

1943
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:06,719
Speaker 1: the microwave? That's also iconic. The editing on that show

1944
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 1: is showed so shady. Every time Hottie blinks and they

1945
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 1: do the bike ring wing ring wing, like shaping another one.

1946
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 1: Beyonce bit you look like Luther vand Van Dross bit

1947
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 1: you like Luther Van Dross. Yeah, I might be a

1948
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 1: bitch to at least it don't go around to everyone's Yeah,

1949
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 1: so good, Hotti Hotti mental institution by a straight jacket

1950
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: that said that it's Goldie. It's gold Goldie's gold. Yes,

1951
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: mental institution busing a straight jacket. So that show is incredible,

1952
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so good. And then um, who's the

1953
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 1: one a pumpkin who spits in her face? It's like

1954
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 1: a pumpkin. Do I hate her? No? Does she still

1955
01:38:51,800 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: need a facelift? Yes? Like she invented reality television? She did. Also, wait,

1956
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: I just want to throw I just want to say

1957
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 1: before we move on to trickxies. I don't think so, honey.

1958
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 1: One of the most iconic from Real Housewives of Atlanta

1959
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 1: is who gon check me Boo? Who go check me boo?

1960
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 1: You need to get checked? Who don't check me boo?

1961
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 1: And then the neck role that went into it. I'm

1962
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: just like say was she made some mistakes and got

1963
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: got kicked off the franchise, but she was forever Okay,

1964
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:26,480
Speaker 1: So huge moment in So far Out. It's Trixie Mattels.

1965
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Times do you have something prepared?

1966
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: By the way, I do these alone in my house

1967
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: all the time, and I say, I don't think so honey.

1968
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 1: While it happens, we love that, Okay, okay, and this

1969
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 1: is tricky, I don't think so honey. Her time starts now. Okay,

1970
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 1: this is a little bit tired. But I follow a

1971
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: lot of doll collecting websites and sometimes I'll go ton

1972
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: they'll be selling dolls, and every time they post dolls

1973
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: on Facebook, they put trigger warning because some people are

1974
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 1: afraid of dolls. If we've arrived at a place where

1975
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 1: you can't scroll past some naked Barbie dolls being sold

1976
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 1: in a lot, you maybe shouldn't have a computer be

1977
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: on the internet. With that, and with that, the way

1978
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 1: that Barbie has become a scapegoat for people's issues and

1979
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: people's problems. Let me tell you, Before Barbie, women were

1980
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: only allowed to play with barbe baby dolls, women were

1981
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: allowed to mention the moms. And then Barbie came along,

1982
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 1: and you could imagine to be single, have a house,

1983
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 1: a car, have jobs, be beautiful. And the only reason

1984
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 1: Barbie gets scapegoated as like the landing point people's in

1985
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:27,839
Speaker 1: securities is because America makes women hate their bodies. Barbie

1986
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: is a toy that's so popular, everyone has one, and

1987
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: so just because there's a been diagram doesn't mean that

1988
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 1: Barbie's at the fault of all of that. Barbie changed

1989
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: the lives for women forever, forever and what and there

1990
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: we go. And that's one minute. I any un any

1991
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: anti Barbie culture I'm hesitant about because I feel that

1992
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 1: it wasn't her fault and putting the blame on her

1993
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 1: is anti feminist things. It's very first thought. It's very

1994
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 1: first thought. And that was like a Malcolm Gladwell essay trick,

1995
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 1: state like you synthesizing those two things, well, thank you.

1996
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 1: I feel very strongly about I've read my free time,

1997
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:02,560
Speaker 1: I read a lot of nonfiction books about Barbie, and

1998
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more passionate about it. Barbie is she's

1999
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 1: a scientist, she's a lifeguard, she's a teacher. She's a model,

2000
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 1: she's stunning, she's a legend, she's an icon, she has

2001
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 1: a point, she is the moment. She's a woman who

2002
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 1: gets it. She's a woman, she's she's bisexual, she's a friend.

2003
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm crying. She's a mother, she's a driver, she's a

2004
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: police officer. Until she came along, and they were basically,

2005
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: you can pretend to be a mom and that's it, right, Yeah,

2006
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 1: And then the reason she got to popular is because

2007
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 1: people are like a dog with boobs, I can't have that.

2008
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 1: But the greater fear than that is raising a daughter

2009
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 1: who wasn't attractive. So parents were like, well, maybe if

2010
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,799
Speaker 1: I buy this, my daughter will have a meal ticket

2011
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 1: because she'll have a husband. So it's a very dark past.

2012
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 1: But the heavy lifting that Barbie did for the development

2013
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 1: of like equality and women and the way that can,

2014
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 1: at least in the last ten years, she gets everything

2015
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: loaded on top of her is crazy. It's crazy. I mean,

2016
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 1: like people lose their minds even at like the like

2017
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 1: the differently figured the more realistically figured or or proportional

2018
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 1: Barbie like the dolls. Like everyone had a conniption, And

2019
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 1: I was like, but is it really do we do

2020
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: we actually care that much? Or do we hate that

2021
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 1: idea so much that like we are going to shoot

2022
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:21,639
Speaker 1: on this on Twitter for like a whole day. I yeah,

2023
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 1: how many g i jo's do see with beer bellies? Bitch?

2024
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 1: Not right? Yeah? Yeah exactly, but one and I were

2025
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 1: talking because Ben de la Cram, who we fucking love

2026
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 1: is like featured prominently in in your documentary as well.

2027
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: We were talking like him eliminating himself on All Stars

2028
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: was the most was the most iconic thing he ever

2029
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 1: could have done, and the most dragged thing he ever

2030
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 1: could have done. Like I'm flipping around this lipstick it's

2031
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: my own name in this shitty white out, and I'm

2032
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 1: leaving and gonna pretend like it's an emotional moment and

2033
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 1: stomp out of here after like killing it in the

2034
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: way that this competition exists. Right now, I have checked

2035
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:01,719
Speaker 1: ten on every box and now I'm gonna see myself

2036
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 1: out and even the way Ru reacted. I knew that

2037
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: Rule loved it, Like I've I felt like Rue must

2038
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: have loved it, or at least I hope that Rule

2039
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: loved it. But the thing is like I felt like

2040
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 1: that was drag on top of drag, which made it

2041
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 1: so iconic and amazing to me. Yeah, I mean, what's

2042
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 1: more punk rock than exiting a drag competition on your

2043
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 1: own terms? It's it was hunger games like the berries,

2044
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna kill myself like it was that. Yeah,

2045
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 1: it was that you and you even made you even

2046
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 1: made the observation in the documentary or like after that happened,

2047
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:40,839
Speaker 1: you were like me, Ben wants us to be the Olympics.

2048
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: But it's like it's a it's a TV shows Like

2049
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 1: Ben didn't want to wear a crown that represented also

2050
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 1: reality TV, and it's like, you really should leave then

2051
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 1: if you don't want to carry that title, if you

2052
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 1: don't think it's ethical, you'll be happy, you know. By

2053
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 1: the way, by the way, everybody's like, no man, no bitch.

2054
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:01,599
Speaker 1: I was like, but because because I'd love to wear

2055
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: the crowd, me and Angela were like finally, it's like

2056
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 1: we were thrilled. Angel were like everything, I think I'm

2057
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 1: gonna like it. Yes, Like like Kennedy ran backstage like

2058
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 1: she was not the father. She angela like what like this?

2059
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,799
Speaker 1: And I was not the father. I was just thrilled.

2060
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 1: I was like, right, right, right, it was nice. I definitely,

2061
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 1: I mean I unofficially owe her about a hundred thousand dollars.

2062
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: So thank you, Ben to the There's a moment in

2063
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: the documentary I think I keep talking about the docs. Sorry,

2064
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 1: but when it's it's the premiere. It's the premiere party

2065
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 1: for All Stars three, and then you and Ben and

2066
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: Kenny your back stage um, and you're talking about Katya um.

2067
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 1: And then Ben's like, yeah, I mean like sometimes I

2068
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 1: get I get asked questions or like people were asking

2069
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: you about conton You're like, I don't know how to answer.

2070
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,639
Speaker 1: Then Ben was like, yeah, I get asked questions too.

2071
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 1: And then you cut her off. You're like, why do

2072
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 1: you dress like this? And then immediately Ben picks up

2073
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 1: and it's like yeah right, and it's a mental issue,

2074
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: and like you guys have such a genuine line. I'm

2075
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 1: like so funny and like I feel so like fly

2076
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 1: on the wall for like watching this interaction, even happened.

2077
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is great. I wish for

2078
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: both of you to someday. I'm sure you've done it

2079
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 1: if you can, somebody be in a drag dressing room.

2080
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: That is where the show is. It is people who

2081
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: respect each other being fucking mean to each other is

2082
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: so funny. I guess that's That's one more thing I

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Speaker 1: want to ask, is like, so yes, like the way

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Speaker 1: that the fans get heated about it at the show

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01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 1: and the results of the show, etcetera. It's it's very

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Speaker 1: high stakes. I wonder like amongst the cast when when

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Speaker 1: the results are kind of happening, like you know, the

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Speaker 1: Morgan McMichaels of it all, and like you know, like

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Speaker 1: the the eliminations are tough from the very beginning. Is

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Speaker 1: it actually dramatic and thick between you guys or are

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01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 1: you guys kind of like performing mixture of both? Uh? Well,

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01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 1: you have to. It's a little bit Stockholm syndrome because

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01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 1: it is real, especially on all stars level, because we

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01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 1: all want this, we're all stars, were all professionals. But

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Speaker 1: is Stockholm syndrome because when you've been there a week

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Speaker 1: with no phone and no outside contact, you this is

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01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 1: your bubble and this is the real world. It feels

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01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 1: real reality TV. When you're doing well, it does feel real.

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Speaker 1: So certain things feel more emotional. When somebody's eliminated, it

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Speaker 1: does feel like they're dying. It does. It feels like

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Speaker 1: you're never going to see them again. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: not true. Especially. What makes me laugh though, is when

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01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 1: drag Races like two episodes in and everyone's been there

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Speaker 1: two days and like, we've been here the whole competition.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you've been three days. Like chel love her

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Speaker 1: to death. We're like three days into drag Race and

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Speaker 1: she's like, I miss my cat. I'm like cheating like

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Speaker 1: four days. She was just like I'm exhausted. I love her. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she was a true, true true. Let's dedicate this episode

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Speaker 1: to the incomparable cheat debate. If you stay ready, you

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01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 1: ain't got to get ready the most like, so good,

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Speaker 1: very good, Well, I love you. Guys. May go down

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Speaker 1: to history as our longest episode, and I probably could

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Speaker 1: have done it for two more hours. They could please

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Speaker 1: come back literally open invitation whenever you want, like this

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Speaker 1: is truly truly fine. Well, thank you, I really appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: and um, I know you guys, have a lot of

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Speaker 1: similar listeners. But if anybody wants to hear bald in

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Speaker 1: the Beautiful, we love making it our covid Ore covid Special,

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Speaker 1: part of Artist Special comes out this week, so get

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Speaker 1: into it. Check it out, check it out, into Yes

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Speaker 1: and by makeup, Come by makeup stream Barbara read the book,

2123
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Speaker 1: do all that. But um, I just love you guys.

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Speaker 1: This has been such an honor. We love you back,

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01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 1: and we got to say, oh my lord and um listen,

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01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,600
Speaker 1: the way we sort of wrap up every episode is

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Speaker 1: famously with the song before we sing it, I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you a question. Did you want you did

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01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: watch Promising Young Woman? Did? So? Next week we're going

2130
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 1: to talk about Promising Young Woman. But there's a scene

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Speaker 1: in it where bo Burnham knows all the words to

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01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 1: Paris Hilton Stars are Blind? And I just want to

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Speaker 1: ask a question before we leave. Do you think straight

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Speaker 1: men know the words to Paris Hilton Stars are Blind?

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Speaker 1: I don't even think a lot of game that know it. No,

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Speaker 1: and don't make this another plot. No, but and this

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Speaker 1: is gonna this is gonna draftly carry into our conversation

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Speaker 1: next week when we'll discussed the film. But for now,

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Speaker 1: even though the guys can make it nice and naughty,

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Speaker 1: be got at and stollen body. Let's see what do

2141
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Speaker 1: you love? King may be I'm perfect for you. Do

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01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 1: you listen to the rest of that song? Watch promising

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Speaker 1: young woman available to rent. Bye Bye,