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Speaker 1: so much in my life that's happened. There's been so

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Speaker 1: will get to that. I can't lead with yours because

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Speaker 1: it is it's the Big Bloo show. First, No, I

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Speaker 1: Like no, I literally wrote no, stop. I wrote stop,

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Speaker 1: to get to chips update. Mine is a little more

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Speaker 1: I have really put into perspective once again that health

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Speaker 1: I started having muscle spasms and I was in bed

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Speaker 2: Like the actual building was probably the nicest one I've

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00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: ever been in.

433
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 1: Like, wait, why don't you take your underwear off? Just

434
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 1: out of curiosity because I do in places like that,

435
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 1: and I know I'm like, wait, should I not?

436
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 2: Well, I'll get there, okay, okay, okay. So you know,

437
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 2: it was a really nice facility. It felt really it

438
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: was a lot cleaner than a lot of those are.

439
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 2: It was like a lot of thought have been put

440
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: into the decor. The rooms actually had like a lot

441
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: of them that have like just curtains and no doors,

442
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: and like it had real doors all the things. It

443
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 2: was nice. So I start face down. She like is

444
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 2: doing my shoulders and my back and all that, and

445
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 2: my legs. And then often what they do if you

446
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 2: wear underwear, they'll like take the sheet that covers you

447
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 2: because they cover you, yeah, and they'll tuck it into

448
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: your underwear so that they don't get like oil on it. Well,

449
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: she took my underwear and pulled it down so it

450
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 2: was like under my butt cheeks, so my butt was

451
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: completely exposed, and then she puts some oil on my

452
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: butt and like massage my butt.

453
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: I will say, in those kind of places, they really

454
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 1: get in on your glues. I love that because I'm

455
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: so tight. There usually but a lot of people in

456
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: your body.

457
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they truly are. So it's still that

458
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 2: wasn't weird. And so she finishes my like my back

459
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: and says, okay, now flip over, and she was like,

460
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 2: you know, I take these off, and she like motions

461
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: to my underwearth so I like sort of arched my

462
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: body and she like slides them off of me. I'm

463
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: still laying on my stomach and then she like holds

464
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: the sheet so that I can turn over privately, and

465
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 2: she covers me up and then she starts like, you know,

466
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: she's doing my my chest and my arms, and then

467
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: she just goes tap tap tap on my dick and

468
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: she was like do you want And I was like, no, I'm.

469
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: Good, do you want?

470
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: Yes? Do you want? And I was like, oh, I'm good,

471
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: it's okay. I just need the massage, and then she

472
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: like taps it again. Are you sure?

473
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: Oh?

474
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'm good, It's all good, just

475
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: the massage, and I'm like laying there being like I

476
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: cannot believe that this is happening. Meanwhile, it's it is

477
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: the first time it's ever happened to me, and I'm like,

478
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: I kind of felt embarrassed for her because I didn't

479
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 2: say yes, but I'm also like and part of me

480
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: was like, I should have just gone for it. This

481
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 2: is an experience. But then my you know, practical mind's like,

482
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: what if this is a sting operation and I everyone's

483
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: in Hammond and they don't know where. I Am like,

484
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: this is so crazy. And then I'm like I can't

485
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: wait to tell everybody. Oh my god, because it's not

486
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: like I wasn't embarrassed by it. I thought it was

487
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 2: really funny. And well, so then I text Kelly when

488
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: she's like we need to come up with a topic.

489
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, what have we ever talked about happy endings?

490
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: And she was like what.

491
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: I literally go, where is that coming from? What is

492
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: the reference here?

493
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: And then I was like I'll tell you about it,

494
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: and she's like stop. So you know, it's funny because

495
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: I had a friend in New York, a girlfriend who

496
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: she one day went to get a massage, like on

497
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: her lunch break and went to a really nice salon

498
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: in New York, and she said her mascuse was this

499
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: super hot dude and it was right, like she didn't

500
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: know what she was hunting up for. Super hot dude.

501
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: He massaged her breast a little bit, which she said

502
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: was out of the ordinary, but it didn't feel like

503
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: hyper sexual, right, So you know, she paid and tipped

504
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 2: him one hundred dollars and booked another appointment. Okay, And

505
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: when she went back he fingered her. Oh, and she

506
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 2: told all of the girls that she worked with about it.

507
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: They all started booking appointments with him, and he was

508
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 2: fingering all of them and oh, wish.

509
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: You guys could see my face right now, she's like

510
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: my jog he was dropping.

511
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: And then one day he was not there anymore, so

512
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: you know, he must have done it to the wrong person.

513
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: And you know, so it's like this. It's what got

514
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 2: me thinking, is I don't know sort of the etiquette,

515
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: the signs, Like I know that this is pervasive and

516
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 2: it happens, and you read about it, and I've you know,

517
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: been told by several of my male friends that that

518
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: they've gotten it done, and so you know, it was

519
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 2: just like a shock to me that it happened. And

520
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: part of me really wishes I just like let her

521
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: do it, just to have the experience, But I also

522
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: don't want to go.

523
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: To jail, right, thinking that is illegal, right.

524
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: It is illegal everywhere in the United States except for

525
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: in brothels in Nevada, Okay.

526
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: So it's definitely illegal in Louisiana.

527
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: It is one hundred percent of illegal in Louisiana. And

528
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: it's you know, because it's solicitation and prostitution because you

529
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: are paying for a sex act. Even if you don't

530
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: pay more than you were going to pay, it's still

531
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: an exchange of money.

532
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: I just can not process what that moment must have

533
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: been like because the first time you said, she's like

534
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: tap tap tap, and you're like, no.

535
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: That's also weird. It wasn't sexy at all. She literally

536
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: like tapped the head of my dick, like, which all

537
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: that was there between her finger and my penis was

538
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: this thin cheap sheet.

539
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: Well, right, so immediately already she's kind of gone there.

540
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it was funny because I was going

541
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: through my receipts in the car and the artist is

542
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: in there, and I was like, Jasleen, I need to

543
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: keep that. This was for food. Oh, here's my sexual

544
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: assault receipt. Right.

545
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, she's gotten herself. I mean, not maybe not fired,

546
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: but because they may condwn that kind of thing at

547
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: that place.

548
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: But arrested. She could have if you were the person

549
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: she doesn't know. Yeah, so I did. We did a

550
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: little bit of research to see sort of what the

551
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: etiquette is, the sign what the signs are. I mean,

552
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: I did click on a website. I found that there

553
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: was a website called backstage dot com, and that's where

554
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 2: a lot of people adver taught, I guess, used to

555
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: advertise or go find places that did it. When I

556
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: typed in backstage dot com, it's like this website has

557
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: been taken over by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Oh my,

558
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: so that's shut down. I really got in.

559
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: I put into my Google search do happy endings happen

560
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: often or whatever? And it brought me to all these

561
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: Reddit pages. And what I was telling telling you was

562
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: that I couldn't actually click through them because they're all

563
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: blocked as being mature. But what I could see behind

564
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: that was that all these people were talking about, Yeah,

565
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: I go here and this is the experience, and X,

566
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: Y and Z, and they have all these answers to it.

567
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: So it feels like it's way more common than I

568
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: would have ever thought. I actually think I thought this

569
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: was just a fairy tale, not a fantasy thing that

570
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: people said. I didn't think this actually existed, which is

571
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: very naive.

572
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: I guess I think it's pretty pervasive, and I think

573
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: a lot I don't know that it's it's probably less

574
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: common in spas than it is, like you know, having

575
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: there are people out there that do erotic massage that

576
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: you can find online that will come to your house.

577
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: But even when the google tontric massage, it's something different

578
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: and they specifically say this does not include a lot

579
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: of things, because I think that's probably what they get

580
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: approached about the most, right, right, like people thinking they're

581
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: there to do a sex act and it's like, no,

582
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: tantra is actually something so different, But okay, go ahead.

583
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: Well, I in the research, I found a website called

584
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: Respect Massage and it's it's a website for professional massage

585
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: therapists to like learn about, you know, kind of all

586
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: sides of the business. And so this was like a

587
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: this is just one part of the website that's talks

588
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: about this, because I mean, clearly, if they're putting this

589
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: up on the website, it's pretty for pervasive. So apparently

590
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: there's some code language, code language though, well, you know,

591
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: if you were a mass and one of the things

592
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: is there's codes on both sides, you know, because there

593
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 2: are people that are advertising that they're there they'll do it.

594
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: There are people that are advertising that they are looking

595
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: to have it done to them. So if you were

596
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: a parlor on this website recommends that you not put

597
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: the word rose or roses in the name of your

598
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: your spa or parlor because that's a common sign that

599
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: you perform sex acts.

600
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: So just the actual the roads. It's like the pineapple

601
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: being the thing for swingers. Right, if you leave a

602
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: pineapple outside you guys just by the way, or if

603
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: you have a pineapple in your kitchen like decoration, it's

604
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: supposed to be a communication that you and possibly your

605
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: significant other swingers that might be careful with the pineapple.

606
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: Right. Also, if if if a customer, if you call

607
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: and you say like, hey, if I get a full

608
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: body musta if i'm you know, sign up for this,

609
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: how relax will I be? And if they tell you

610
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: completely relaxed, that means that they're probably willing to jack

611
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: you off. And and this is there is.

612
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're assuming it's always that women are doing it

613
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: to men, but it sounds.

614
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Like you have men. I think it's yeah, it goes

615
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: both ways. I think wow. Also, if someone calls himself

616
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: a masseuse versus a massage therapist. That might be a

617
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: sign that they're willing to do sex X on the

618
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: client side if they ask. You know, if you're a

619
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: legit massage therapist and your client is saying asking about

620
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: like getting glute work done, that could be a short

621
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: a tell tale signe.

622
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: But like I would have done that not knowing, because

623
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: I actually, really my glutes are typically where I hold

624
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: so much stress. For one, but then from the workouts

625
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: that I do, it's the place that gets the tightest

626
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: on me and it throws my back out. Look at that, like,

627
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: it's when my glutes get too tight, I have a

628
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: freaking slip disk and can get out of bed for

629
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: a week. So that is what I would have wanted

630
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: to work out. Like I literally thought to myself, I

631
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: should have gotten a massage the week that I finally

632
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: got really bad. And so what if I had said,

633
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: can you do glute work? What would have happened to me?

634
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think you just need to If you ever

635
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: have to ask that, you should just clarify that I mean,

636
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: actually I need to glutwork, Like this is not some code.

637
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: If a client is asking about draping, like how covered

638
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: up do I need to be? Like? Do I need

639
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: to put this sheet on? Then they were probably trying

640
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: to expose themselves as a hint to you know, entice

641
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: you into doing some sex work on them. And then

642
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: if if they use words like full service, full body release, those.

643
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: Are other release seems like a big indicator.

644
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: Right right. But you know it's funny because I found this.

645
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I found a website. You know, it's called fusia dot com.

646
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: So I have no idea what this website is. This

647
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: is just a regular It looks like it's like anyone

648
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: can sort of post information on here. But it basically

649
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Speaker 2: says that erotic massage has been around for centuries, but

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Speaker 2: the term happy ending is relatively new. It says it

651
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: was first used in nineteen ninety nine and an Australian newspaper,

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Speaker 2: and it was used in a way to explain a

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Speaker 2: massage that involves a sex act. I mean that called

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Speaker 2: like a robin tug and those sorts of things.

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Speaker 1: But I said to you, I was like, the reason

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Speaker 1: they finally coined it in nineteen ninety nine is because

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Speaker 1: we thought the world was ending. In two thousand at

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Speaker 1: yegk and so they were like, let's all go out

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Speaker 1: with a bang, like literang a bang.

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Speaker 2: But this is interesting since happy ending massage is another

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Speaker 2: form of massage, they offer the most benefits of a

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Speaker 2: typical London erotic massage. Here are some of the things

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Speaker 2: that you can gain from a happy ending. It can

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Speaker 2: improve your mental, physical, and emotional health. It can boost

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Speaker 2: your blood circulation. It can help get rid of stress.

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Speaker 2: It can help deal with a wide range of sexual problems,

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Speaker 2: such as premature ejaculation and a rectile dysfunction. It can

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Speaker 2: deal with anxiety and other mental health related issues. It

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Speaker 2: can encourage mental relaxation through its ability to put you

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Speaker 2: into a trance. And it consists you to learn more

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Speaker 2: about some unusual body parts that can turn you on

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Speaker 2: during foreplay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean none of that is surprising to me.

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Speaker 1: It's more about the fact that it's just not legal,

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Speaker 1: and so if you're going and requesting it, or it's

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00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: being offered to you with the tap tap tap, it's

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Speaker 1: a little alarming because it's against the law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so it's exactly why.

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Speaker 1: We all love sex, right, Like it's right, that's the

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Speaker 1: whole point. But yeah, maybe keep it to your you

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Speaker 1: and your partner, or you and whoever you're having sex with.

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Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I just I would be so curious

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Speaker 2: for anyone if anyone's experienced it and actually said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's do this, I would love for them to call

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Speaker 2: in and.

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Speaker 1: Leave us an anonymous voicemail. We will not reveal.

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Speaker 2: Any and yeah, we won't say anyone's names. But I'm

688
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: also like curious, like what people think, should I have

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00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: just let her do it? You know, like a question?

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Speaker 1: I have a question. So I always wonder about guys

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Speaker 1: getting boners during massages because I just assume that would

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Speaker 1: probably like I wondered if Yeah, I was wondering if

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Speaker 1: that's why you wear your underwear because you're trying.

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Speaker 2: To like, no, I do it because I'm trying not

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00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: to suggest that I want a hand job from these women.

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Speaker 1: You're that worried about it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I mean that's why I differentiate between the

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Speaker 2: like sketchiers parlors.

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Speaker 1: And like I'm like fall nude. Yeah, so I guess

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Speaker 1: I just my question to you would be you keep

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Speaker 1: saying you wish you would have done it, but like,

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Speaker 1: as a dude, can you just get turned on by anything?

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Speaker 1: Would you just close your eyes and fantasy about something else.

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Speaker 2: This is a little t M. I but like I

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00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: after she tapped it the second time, like there was

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Speaker 2: you got hard. I didn't get hard, but it was

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00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: it like blood started going there. Like I had to

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00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: start thinking about like dead puppies, you know, because it's

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a touch, you know. Like so

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Speaker 2: would it be my choice of person to get a

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00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: hand job from?

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00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: No, but gender choice, right, right, But you're not doing

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Speaker 1: anything to them, so that's where you're like a hands

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Speaker 1: of hand right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But if somebody said a hole as a hole at

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Speaker 1: one point, like it's so fucked up. I don't know

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00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: who it was, Diplo probably or something that somebody. Yeah,

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00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: Like there are all those things. I'm just curious, Like,

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00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: as a dude, you don't necessarily have to be attracted

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Speaker 1: to the person to get turned on, because you can Okay, no, interesting, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean it certainly helps, but of course, but there's also

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00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: something like exciting about that situation. Like I was like, oh,

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00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: this is an exciting situation, so that plays into it too.

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00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a little taboo, well.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot, it's a lot of taboos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the most ty boo you can actually get. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I can see that. You're like, oh, it's exciting,

729
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: it's like secret. It's all the things that I think

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Speaker 1: we would all quote unquote fantasize about or if you

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Speaker 1: were going to make up a scenario that's happening, except

732
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: maybe it would have been like a hot dude doing

733
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Speaker 1: it versus this woman. But yeah, yeah, that's it's I

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Speaker 1: see why it would have been kind of enticing if okay,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this. What if it was a hot

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00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: dude and he did it, what would you have done?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I really honestly can't answer

738
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: that because there's a part of me that I know

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Speaker 2: that I did the right thing by like not going

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00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: through with it. But I'm also like, it is, yeah,

741
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Speaker 2: it's a story, and it's like, you know, it might

742
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Speaker 2: have been fun, you know. So if it were a

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Speaker 2: hot dude, then maybe I would have been more inclined

744
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: to say fuck it and just go with it. Yeah,

745
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: but I really can't answer it because I'm not in

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Speaker 2: that situation.

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00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: So there's a place at the end of my street.

748
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: There is a place that I go to sometimes and

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Speaker 1: it's a foot miss it the same kind of place

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. I do table massages because those people

751
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: work you so like. It is not the most relaxing

752
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: spa like experience, but those women definitely know all the

753
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: reflex points. They help my back all the time, my neck, everything.

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00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: But I have noticed the walls are very thin there,

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00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: and so I've heard there specifically. The last time I went,

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Speaker 1: there was a man in the room next to me

757
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: and he was making a lot of noises, and I

758
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: did think to myself, right, this sounds sexual. But surely

759
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: he is not being this loud if she's actually doing something.

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00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: And then I thought to myself, also, surely that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really happen that, you know whatever. And then you come

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00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: back with this story and I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: was that could getting a hand job while I was

764
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: just getting my neck worked on? Yeah, that would make

765
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: me feel very weird to get this rando get a

766
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: hand job. Yeah, I think I like that idea. God,

767
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: this is fascinating that this even exists. I know the

768
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: dark Web, It's like that was what it felt like

769
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Speaker 1: when I was googling, and I was like, there is

770
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: a whole world of happy endings that exist on the

771
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: Internet that I and code words and places that you

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00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: can go and all the things that I just don't

773
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: even know happens. Make she wonder what else is going

774
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: on out there. I don't think I want to know. Yeah, wow, well,

775
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: these are very different body experiences for us, But I

776
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: think the whole podcast is about bodies today. Yeah, body,

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00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: yadda yadda, yadda, yadda, YadA yaddy. Yeah. Well, I kind

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00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: of wish you would have done it too, just so

779
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: we could talk about it, but with it, Like, my

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00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: other question is is how would you Would you just

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00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: be quiet? Would you just be like moaning to yourself?

782
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what about what would have

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00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: happened when I bet she was good? Seems like she

784
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: knows what she's doing.

785
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, she knows her way around it. All right.

786
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: If you guys have had a happy ending or know

787
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: someone who has, please, please, I'm begging you tell us

788
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: the story. I need to know. I did not know

789
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: this was so common. You can always leave us a voicemail.

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00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: They are completely anonymous. We can't actually even see who

791
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: left it. So if you're worried about that, don't worry

792
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: about it. Just don't say your name, we won't obviously

793
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: post that. Even if you do say your name, I

794
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: never post those anyways, So leave us a voicemail. The

795
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: link to the voicemail system is in the link of

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00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: my bio of Instagram. It's at Velvet Edge. It's also

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00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: in the bio of chips Instagram, which.

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Speaker 2: Is at chip doorsh. It's Chip d R s c H.

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Speaker 1: You can also email us at the Edge at velvet

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Speaker 1: sedge dot com. And I will put all of this

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00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: in the description of this podcast. But as you guys

802
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: go into this wage and if you're living on the edge,

803
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: like Chip apparently is, I hope you always remember too.

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Speaker 2: Ah casual, all right, bye,