WEBVTT - Mick Mulroy, Lobo Institute Co-Founder Talks US Security Questions

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news team.

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<v Speaker 2>They did a great job in the last twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hours Divine and now mulroy from the CIA, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course with mcmlroy's public service to the nation and to

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<v Speaker 2>our military, mcmorroy joins the Lobo Institute. Nick, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get away from the talking points. People have to

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<v Speaker 2>come out of press conferences and say the usual, what's

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<v Speaker 2>really going on away from the media, the lights of

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<v Speaker 2>the media in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>So good to be with you guys. Obviously a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>issue to discuss. I think right now law enforcement and

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<v Speaker 1>especially the intelligence community is trying to determine whether this

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<v Speaker 1>was just ISIS inspired, which it seems obviously that it was,

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<v Speaker 1>or was it Isis directed, and they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>looking at all of this individual's communications, potentially is travel.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been in reports. Do you travel to Egypt

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<v Speaker 1>and traveled to Canada. That doesn't mean that was anything

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<v Speaker 1>done there, but they're certainly going to look at who

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<v Speaker 1>he met and why he met them, and to try

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<v Speaker 1>to determine if there was any direction or any support

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<v Speaker 1>that was lended by main Isis, either in Syria or Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's probably where they're looking right now

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<v Speaker 1>to determine I guess, ultimate culpability when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>this horrendous attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have a strategy for lone wolfs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question, because it's very difficult. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to determine who who's been self radicalized, as they

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<v Speaker 1>call it. The only way to really do that, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is to kind of somehow get an informant into the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>But when they're self radicalized, although this individual does look

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<v Speaker 1>like for the FBI worked with other people, which does

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<v Speaker 1>indicate that there was some kind of organization that might

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<v Speaker 1>have gone beyond the actual attacker. Doesn't mean it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's very difficult if it's just one person, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why it's so hard to stop these, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>singular people that decide to either get a weapon and

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<v Speaker 1>shoot up a public place or drive a truck into

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<v Speaker 1>a public place. But that is what's really trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be determined right now, and whether there was multiple people

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<v Speaker 1>involved in this, it does appear from the FBI statements

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<v Speaker 1>that there were, and then we obviously need to find

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<v Speaker 1>these individuals, capture them. They are a threat to the

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<v Speaker 1>public right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Mick is there any reason to believe at this time

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<v Speaker 3>that there's any connection between what happened in New Orleans

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<v Speaker 3>and what happened in Las Vegas. Could they be connected

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<v Speaker 3>at all?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 1>I know people have talked about the similarities. They both

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<v Speaker 1>rant a truck from the same company. Both appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be US Army veterans, which is obviously a horrible thing

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<v Speaker 1>for any veteran. Myself included that should just be coincidence.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think they are looking at the connection. There's

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<v Speaker 1>potential that they served at the same location, at the

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<v Speaker 1>same base. That doesn't mean they know each other or

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<v Speaker 1>this is connected, but those similarities seem to be out there.

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<v Speaker 1>At least they're being reported, and I'm sure the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in the lead of this both investigations, would

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<v Speaker 1>be looking to see if there was a personal connection

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<v Speaker 1>and whether there was anybody directing both of them to

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<v Speaker 1>do this or not. I think it's too early to

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<v Speaker 1>really have any direct knowledge of whether that's the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Micking your long career, you've had a lot of experience

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<v Speaker 3>in the Middle East. We're going to have a new

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<v Speaker 3>president taking office here in about eighteen days. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you think the policy should be could be as it

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<v Speaker 3>relates to the Middle East, trying to get some resolution

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<v Speaker 3>there in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I do think if we look at all the

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<v Speaker 1>issues that are going on in the Middle East right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the common denominator is are on They of course supported

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<v Speaker 1>or support Hamas, they support Hezbola, they were basically given

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<v Speaker 1>free reign in Syria, they support the Huthis, and yeah, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is one of the main efforts that

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<v Speaker 1>the incoming Trump administration is going to focus on. They

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<v Speaker 1>are likely to go back to what was called the

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<v Speaker 1>maximum pressure campaign, which is a maximum amount of sanctions,

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<v Speaker 1>some of some of whom were withdrawn with the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll all be put back into place, and

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<v Speaker 1>potentially even more strict sanctions implemented. I think that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the biggest shift when it comes to foreign policy,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to starve, of course, the Uranian regime from being

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<v Speaker 1>able to support say a billion dollars a year is

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<v Speaker 1>a high estimate for how much they supported HEZBLA and

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<v Speaker 1>try to force them back to the table because their

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<v Speaker 1>economy is essentially collapsing.

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<v Speaker 2>The reality, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think is at seven hundred and eighty five thousand per dollar,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can't even keep the lights on, essentially in

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<v Speaker 1>a country that's main main resources as energy. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is teetering, and I do think the Trump administration is

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to push them to point that they'll

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<v Speaker 1>want to come back to the table on an agreement

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<v Speaker 1>not to of course, develop a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>And make one final question, Lisa Matteo and I were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this. I mean, Lisa's got to sit with

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<v Speaker 2>a fam. I got to sit with a fim. Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Sweeney's got to sit with a fim and try to

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<v Speaker 2>explain all this. How do you is the real deal?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you explain this violence, whether terror based or

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<v Speaker 2>not in America? What do you tell kids? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you tell people afraid to go on the subway, afraid

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a bar, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there's two parts, right, So one is if we

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<v Speaker 1>adjust the way we live. We're a free country. We

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<v Speaker 1>have freedom of association, speech, and we need to fight

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<v Speaker 1>for it. And one of the way to fight for

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<v Speaker 1>it is to utilize it. So if you start adjusting

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<v Speaker 1>everything you do based on this, the terrorists win. But

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<v Speaker 1>then again it's a very real threat. And in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, because of our freedom, that freedom includes you

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<v Speaker 1>the right to bear arms, which means other people could

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<v Speaker 1>get those weapons. It is particularly troublesome when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to these large public events, so you have to make

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<v Speaker 1>your own decisions. But I think it's a balance between

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<v Speaker 1>those two. You can't let them dictate your life, them

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<v Speaker 1>being the terrorist, but you have to be reasonable and

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<v Speaker 1>proactive when it comes to your own security. So it

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<v Speaker 1>really is is a balance. We can do better. I

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<v Speaker 1>think when it comes to protecting these public events. It's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to be the Monday morning quarterback and look at

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<v Speaker 1>everything that they didn't do, but I think collectively, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than point fingers, we should just take every incident like this,

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<v Speaker 1>do an after action, find out what didn't work and

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<v Speaker 1>what did work, and fix what didn't work. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what, unfortunately or we're going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>do on each one of these events until we make

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<v Speaker 1>it just so difficult for these terrorists to really be

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<v Speaker 1>able to carry out these attacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Mark, thank you for joining us today with the

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<v Speaker 2>Lobo Institute. I have much more is