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Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: Jerry and this is Stuff you Should Know. You're gonna 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: love it. I think I just said this is remarkably 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: interesting right before we hit record. Well, you're right, because 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what are you gonna call this thing? 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: How so sounds were? He trailed off. It's not the 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: best title. It's a well that's being gone too before. 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: Oh um, it's really the history of soda kind of yeah, 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, I just think it's interesting. I never really 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: thought about it. I didn't either, And and this is 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Chuck to me, one of those great examples of how 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: you can take anything and really tease out all these 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: different parts to it. Sure, um, and and that just 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: about everything is more interesting than it appears on the surface. Yeah. 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: Because soda, as we will learn, affected America in the 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: world and continues too. Yeah. Basically all American dominance from 27 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: the mid nineteenth century on is because of soda. But 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: you are from Ohio, So do you say pop? Used to? Yeah, 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: you depopped. I don't even know what I'm saying soda 30 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: now And now I say coke? You even say coke? 31 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: Win you want to sprite in the South, I want 32 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: a green coke? You say, can I have a coke? 33 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: What kind? It's probably Yeah, Well we're in Atlanta, you know, 34 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: this is the birthplace of coke. It is which we'll 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about. We'll talk about um. But the the 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: initial I guess, the thread that we took into this 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: topic was soda fountains, right, correct. And when you think 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: about a soda fountain, this is a good example of 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: what I was saying. When you think about a soda fountain, 40 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: you think about like Bobby Socks teenagers, right, Bill Haley 41 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: and the comments, Yeah, the fons sure, hair like perfectly 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: in place. Yeah, the Fons all drunk Penny first, did 43 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: he get drunk? No, that's the that was the joke. 44 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: Like Happy Days is so squeaky clean. Wouldn't that really 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: a great episode if like the Fons was hammered, everybody 46 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: just tried to avoid him. Yeah, he'll break the jukebox again. 47 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: Um he uh yeah, that would be great. Did you 48 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: know that? That's what um Laverne and Shirley spun off of. Yeah, 49 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: Mork and Mindy. Yeah, that's just bizarre that More Can 50 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: Mindy and Jon Lovest well sure, yeah, but More Can 51 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: Mindy was set in the seventies. Yeah, very weird eighties. 52 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was the sevenies, seventies based on the 53 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: down vests. It was the seventies, all right, I'm pretty sure. 54 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: All right. So regardless when you think it's sort of 55 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: fountains to think of the fifties that the seventies, right 56 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: in Happy Days wasn't in the fifties that came out 57 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: in the seventies. Yeah, man, there was a big revival 58 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: the fifties culture in the seventies. Yeah, Like there are Greece, 59 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: there always is, um. You know, people tend to reflect 60 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: back twenty years or so. Nostalgia. Yeah, with nostalgia, there's 61 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: a great things were so much better back then. There's 62 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: a great podcast episode, one of the funniest things I've 63 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: ever heard my life from the Great Andy Daily that 64 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: centered around shan on Uh and they got it. I 65 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: can't remember who he did it with, but it was 66 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: might have been Matt Besser, No, I can't remember, but 67 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: they did these characters and it was all trying out 68 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: for Shauna and on drinking egg creams and being a 69 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: professional water skier. It was very, very funny. They're just 70 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: making it up. Yeah, I mean, I'm not doing it justice, 71 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: but just just seek it out. Just type in Andy 72 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: Daily shan on Ah and just sit back and get 73 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: ready for delighted for an hour. I'll check it out. 74 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, uh, fifties purity, Bobby socks, good clean fun. 75 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. You're totally wrong if that's your conception 76 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: of soda fountains, it's right. By the time the fifties 77 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: rolled around, soda fountains were already so far on their 78 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: way out that basically, by the fifties, what happened what 79 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: would happen to bars in the seventies thanks to the 80 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: fern bar, it already happ been to soda fountains. By 81 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: the forties and fifties, what was once handcrafted drinks made 82 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: from freshly prepared ingredients that were mixed there on the 83 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: premises had been replaced by pre mixed stuff and canned 84 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: ingredients that were put together by people who didn't give 85 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: a darn about you or your family. Uh, the forties 86 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: and fifties were not the heyday of the soda fountain. 87 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: It's actually much older than that. Yeah, boy, that's a 88 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: setup from the old days. It's getting the way back 89 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: machine and go back to Europe when everyone was like, 90 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: you know what these mineral waters. We've been drinking this 91 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: stuff for hundreds of years, and even before that, the 92 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Romans bathed in it. Yeah, it's great for you. You 93 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: drink it, you bathe in it, you splash it on 94 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: your sister, do you want her to be well? Deliver 95 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: right right, It'll cure everything. It's the cure all back 96 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: in the days where they thought, like, drink this one thing, 97 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: it'll cure up your STD and your headache, your hangover 98 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: all at once, all at one time, when really all 99 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: it did was carrying up that stomach. That's right, the 100 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: dirty little secret. But the idea that, no, they didn't, 101 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: they didn't for centuries as a matter of fact. But 102 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: the idea that you could drink um like naturally carbonated 103 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: mineral water and that it could cure your health, or 104 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: at the very least it was delightful. People wanted to 105 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: figure out how to how to get that if you 106 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: didn't live near a naturally carbonated spring. That's right, which, 107 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: by the way, I was researching this. Did you know 108 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: pellegrino is not naturally carbonated? Uh? Had No, I don't 109 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: know anything about pellegrino. Well, it's a natural mineral water, 110 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: but they carbonated there. I didn't realize it wasn't carbonated. Yeah, 111 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me. It surprised me. Are you boycotting? No? 112 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: I love this stuff. I was just surprised. You mean 113 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: it's anything these days, naturally carbonated and bottled. Dude, Now 114 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: that you say that, you've just given me a great 115 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: opening to mention this book I just read, called The 116 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: Dorrito Effect. You have to read it. It's about the 117 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: food we eat today and just how incredibly manufactured it is. 118 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: But the really refreshing thing about it is that anybody 119 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: can read this book. It's basically a political It doesn't 120 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: lay this at anybody's feet. It doesn't blame anybody. It 121 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: doesn't suggest there's anything nefarius going on. It's just like, 122 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: here's here's what here's our food right now. It's really interesting. 123 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Check it out, really approachable, interesting book. They don't even 124 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: blame big Derrito. No. I mean they basically trace the 125 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: origin of our current food standards back to the invention 126 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: of the dorrito, hence the name. But it's a it's 127 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: a really great book, definitely worth reading. Uh, I'll check 128 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: that out. And people ask us for book rex all 129 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: the time, so that's one. Yeah, pay attention you. We 130 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: got that for me and I've read it in like 131 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: two days. Did read it? She hasn't ready. I grabbed 132 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: it first, Oh I got you. Yeah. So she bought 133 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: it for the family. Oh yeah, okay, sure that the family. 134 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was a gift, like I read this 135 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: and now I'm going to give it to you. No, 136 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: she read about it, got you, thought about me. Mine 137 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: bought it and I alright. Uh so mineral water was 138 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: very appealing. Uh and and human being said, you know 139 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: what they'd be great if we could bottle this junk ourselves, 140 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: even though bottling isn't really a thing yet, or at least, 141 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, not anything that worked stoneware and a cork. Yeah. 142 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: Uh so a seventeen sixty seven is when Um, Joseph 143 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: Priestley we've talked about before and oh too, yeah more 144 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: than once British chemist he said, you know what, I 145 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: figured this out for a minute, some yeast mash and 146 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: UM put it in this water, gets you pretty messed up, 147 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: and look at it, bubble. It's delightful and everybody's like, whoa, 148 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: that's a decent approximation to semi carbonated water. Yeah, not 149 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: a bad first step thought. Uh So sixteen years later, uh, 150 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: there was a Swiss scientist named Johann Yuko Schwepp. M 151 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: hmm yeah, sound familiar. Uh. He said, you know what, 152 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: I've actually built a device, this hand crank compression pump, 153 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: and um, I can make this stuff, and I'm gonna 154 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: found a company called Swepts because that's my name, and 155 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna be hearing it for centuries. And he actually 156 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: he was definitely onto something. What Schwept figured out was 157 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: not just this invention that he made. But he also 158 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: realized that to carbonate water, which let's talk about carbonating water, 159 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: shall we artificially carbonating? Guy should say, to carbonate it, 160 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: there's some condition that are most conducive to carbonating water 161 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: because C O two molecules and H two old molecules 162 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: do not like to get together. Yeah, you'll just throw 163 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: it in there and they're like start hugging it out 164 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: right and say great, now drink me. Yeah. As a 165 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: matter of fact, there their bond angles, I believe, are 166 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: totally different, and they're they're at such a such an 167 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: angle that like they just do not go together very well. 168 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: But Yakov Schwept said, you know what, I wonder if 169 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: you use really really cold temperatures, like near freezing water, 170 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: that would help. He was correct, correct. Uh. And also 171 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: if you put it under pressure, maybe say seven atmospheres, Yeah, 172 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: it would it would help. He was correct with that too. 173 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: That's right, And that's what you need cold and pressure 174 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: and uh, if you get that going, then that gas 175 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: dissolves into the liquid and those molecules start to party 176 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: and hug it out, and uh, you know that's what. 177 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing that someone figured that out way back then, 178 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: but it's even more amazing that it wasn't like he's like, 179 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: I'll just take the CEO to canister and this cold 180 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: water and put it together under pressure. This dude had 181 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: to make his own CEO too, So he he used 182 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: the old surfu sulfuric acid and powdered marble combination, right, 183 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: which is, um, we'll talk about it's kind of dangerous 184 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: to put together. But this is so to to create 185 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: carbonated water, Schwepps had to first create carbon dioxide, so 186 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: he had a lot of stuff going on. He was 187 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: the first guy to come up with a mechanized version 188 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: of creating carbonated water. Pretty amazing, Yeah, but it took many, many, 189 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: many more years before it became even close to a 190 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: perfected process. Yeah. I mean, as you'll see, it happened. 191 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: Many people chipped in over the course of a lot 192 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: of time. Um, namely Mr Charles Plinth eight thirteen, he 193 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: invented the or I don't know if he invented I 194 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: think he might have invented or at least he perfected 195 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: the soda siphon, which if you've ever seen an episode 196 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: of The Three Stooges, you we've got when you don't 197 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: have this. No, I don't have one. You gotta get one. 198 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: I got a soda stream. I'm all good, Okay, you 199 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: don't need women. Uh. And that means he could either 200 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: squirt someone in the face and have a comedy routine, 201 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: or he could uh service some carbonated liquid. Yeah, which 202 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: is great, but you have to keep refilling that thing 203 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: at the source. Yeah, that was the problem. And especially 204 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean, like if you're if you're having to make 205 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: your own CEO two. It's one thing to just use 206 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: as little chargers today, it's it's not much of a problem. 207 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: But if you have to make your own CEO two 208 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: first before you create this siphon, yeah, you're yeah, that's 209 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: a that's a big process. So again, like these guys 210 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: are kind of like poking away at the edges of 211 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: the problem of coming up with mass produced carbonated water, 212 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: big big problems, and they're contributing an add to to 213 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: this nutcracker, but no one's actually cracked the nut yet. 214 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: It would be eight thirty two when a man named 215 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: John Matthews. Yeah he's American, born in England. Best of 216 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: both worlds. Uh. He developed a chamber, a lead line 217 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: chamber where he could actually mix he could actually generate 218 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: that CEO two. So Swepts had already generated the CEO 219 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: two before YE got you. Yeah, yeah, I thought Matthews 220 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: was the first to do that. No, Okay, Schwepps actually 221 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: was creating CEO two. He he didn't have this self 222 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: contained apparatus that that Matthews came up with. That was 223 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: his his huge innovation. Who Matthews? Yeah yeah, I mean 224 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: he mixed it together without water and he created carbonated 225 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: water and you could bottle it. But um, bottling wasn't 226 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: like a big uh. You couldn't mass bottle it at 227 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: this point. No, and what he came up with this 228 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: invention that he came up with was um it was 229 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,239 Speaker 1: big enough to serve a decent sized clientele. Going from 230 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, like the Schwepps era invention where you could 231 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: make twenty of these a day, twenty carbonated drinks a day, 232 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, with Matthew's invention, you can make 233 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: like a hundreds. Um. But it was it was immobile. 234 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: So it was either good for bottling, which at the 235 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: time bottling sucked in America. The glass wasn't good enough 236 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: to bottle stuff under pressure, or you could make carbonated 237 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: drinks there on site, and that's what it led to, 238 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: was directly the creation of the soda fountain, the place 239 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: where you would go get at soda. Who read for him. Yeah, 240 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: so we'll take a little break and we'll come back 241 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: with one final gentleman who, although he failed, he had 242 00:14:51,560 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: a big impact on the soda fountain industry. 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Go to stamps dot 263 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: com before you do anything else. Click on the microphone 264 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: at the top of the homepage and type in s 265 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: t U f F that Stamps dot com. Enter stuff 266 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: all right, Benjamin silly Man? Yeah, uh Suliman. I believe 267 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: it's probably how he preferred to have it pronounced. Don't 268 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: you think he was very serious? He probably was. Uh. 269 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: He said, you know what, I may be a failure 270 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: in my businesses, but I'm gonna go down in history 271 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: is maybe the guy who had the most to do 272 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: with the creation of soda in a mass, ubiquate, ubiquitous way. Um. 273 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: He was a professor of chemistry at Yale. Go. Uh, geez, 274 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: what is her? Right? Are bulldogs? Hois is Georgetown? So 275 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: I think it's the bulldogs bulls, gotcha? Uh? The Yale 276 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: Hodgmans isn't. Yeah, he's he went to Yale. Oh you 277 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: don't say so. Um, he because he was a chemistry 278 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: professor Yale didn't make a ton of money. I want 279 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: to make a little deal on the side. And his 280 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: whole jam was kind of going back to the old days. 281 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: This is stuff as medicinal, and I'm really gonna move 282 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: all my chips in on the medicine angle, which turned 283 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: out to not be the best move. No, And it 284 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily that he just focused on the medicinal aspect 285 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: of it. It was apparently he didn't know how to 286 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: create like a fun time establishment. Right. He was Yale 287 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: chemistry professor. So he created to um two of the 288 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: first basically soda fountains in New York City based on 289 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: Matthew's design, which again was a lead chamber where you 290 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: put the calcium carbonate and the sulfuric acid together created 291 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: C O two. It bubbled up through water to purify it, 292 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: and then that purified C two entered a very cold 293 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: spring water chamber and bubbled up and created carbonated water. Right, So, 294 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: silly man created two of these houses, and he he 295 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: set them up at two very elite places in New York, 296 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: the City Hotel and uh the tonteen Coffee House. Right um, 297 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: And he started serving this stuff, but again he was 298 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: serving in his medicine. And the impression I have is 299 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: that it was kind of like, uh, please give me 300 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: your money. Great, here's your medicine, drink it, please get out. 301 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: There is no fraternizing, there's no talking. Some other people 302 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: noticed this and said, that's a really great idea. Uh 303 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: costs to finally come down enough to where I can 304 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: get some investors and we can open our own pump house, 305 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: our own soda fountains. But we're gonna throw in some books. 306 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna like promote people talking, and maybe they'll stick 307 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: around in order a second one. Right, Yeah, I don't see. 308 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: That's weird though, because the Tonting Coffee House was like 309 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: a very social place where people hung out. Well, then 310 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: he did something wrong that other people didn't do or 311 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: that did better. Well, maybe they were just drinking coffee 312 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: because he went under. Well, the whole thing, I mean, 313 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: like competitive soda fountains like buried him. But he was 314 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: the guy who came up with the idea, so his 315 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: he created the legacy. He just wasn't very good at business, 316 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: that's right. Hats off to you, silly man. Hats off, 317 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: all right. So these other gentlemen opened up more successful 318 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: shops then they started popping up. Of course, once it 319 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: happens in New York, the next place is going to 320 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: be Philly, Baltimore. Yeah, and it was. It was a 321 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: legit business. It was a thing. But it was tied 322 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: to pharmacies as well. Yeah, which seems weird but not 323 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: when you think about it. No. Um. And one of 324 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: the big reasons why it was tied to pharmacists because 325 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: it took tremendous skill to you properly create carbon dioxide. Um. 326 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: They blew up. Yes, yeah, oh yeah, like you could 327 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: die at a soda fountains hanging out, Um they blew up. 328 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: The sulfuric gacid could leach into the finished product and 329 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 1: you could be served a couple of sulfuric acid not 330 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: very good. Um. There were a lot of things that 331 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: could go wrong in mixing this. So this is technical, 332 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: technical expertise that pharmacists already had, so it made sense 333 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: for them to say we got this, which is why 334 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: it is. It does become less weird to associate the 335 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: soda fountain with the pharmacy, which it would very soon 336 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: become basically like like hand in hand with Yeah, you know, 337 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: I grew up in Stone Mountain and the old village 338 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: of Stone Mountain had a pharmacy straight out of Happy 339 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: Days And you know, I wasn't. It was like the 340 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: seventies and eighties, and it sounds like the fifties, but 341 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: I would like walk down there and get like a 342 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: coke float and like they would put it on my 343 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: parents tab. Oh yeah, yeah, and this was I mean 344 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: it seems like like, yeah, literally Happy Days times, but 345 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: it was eighty five. It was five. Yeah, I was 346 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: like twelve or thirteen. It's pretty walking down to the 347 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: old pharmacy thinking about how cool David Hasselhoff is. Yeah. 348 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: Actually I didn't watch night Writer, so I didn't neither. 349 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't on the Hasslehoff train. Big fan of his music, 350 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: but not night Rider. But yeah, they would just jerk 351 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: me a soda and uh, I don't even think we 352 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: said why they were called soda soda jerks, because that's 353 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: the motion that you would make, you jerked the the 354 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: tap handle or so did jerkers have seen them called 355 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: that as well? Or soda throwers? I saw it too, 356 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: like that The reason they were called soda throwers because um, 357 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: it took a lot of skill to mix these drinks. 358 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: Very like on the level of the bartenders that were 359 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: working at the time. In as a matter of fact, 360 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: some bartenders, especially during Prohibition, became soda jerks. Yeah, there 361 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: was a lot of showmanship involved. Right, it's kind of 362 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: like a cool job to have. But we haven't reached 363 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: that point yet. We're at about the mid nineteenth century 364 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: when it's really starting to get popular and spreading through 365 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: through the major cities of the US. Correct, So they're 366 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: in pharmacies, like you said, because they had skill at 367 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: doing this and it just made sense, and it had 368 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: the old the old you know, medicinal tie in, like here, 369 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: drink this tonic that I've made for you, this ginger 370 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: ale or this root beer. And apparently by this time 371 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: everybody knew that carbonated water didn't have any real medicinal properties. Well, yeah, 372 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: that was kind of the the joke, not the joke, 373 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: but joke was on them. But the so the pharmacists 374 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: would say, well, I'll put some real drugs in here, 375 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: then let's see what happens. Like it didn't have to 376 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: have minerals at this point, right, But people love the fizz, right, 377 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: They were crazy for the fitz still do and putting 378 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: like herbs and drugs and stuff into a drink was 379 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: not an American mid nineteenth entry invention, right. It goes 380 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: back really really far. This is folk medicine, and actually 381 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: in um Europe there was all sorts of stuff that 382 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: we brought over. Like the idea of root beer is 383 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: actually way older than Charles hart Hires invention. UM. It 384 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: goes back to UH Native America, UM, Indigenous European groups. 385 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: Just basically anybody who ever put roots embark and ums 386 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: boiled it. And the reason they were making this stuff 387 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: was because the water supply was questionable at the time, 388 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: so you were basically purifying water by fermenting it, by 389 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: brewing it and making an alcoholic drink, and it would 390 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: be called small beer, and small beer was beer. It 391 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: was a drink like that, like the original root beer, 392 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: the original ginger beer. These were small beers and they 393 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: were used to basically drink instead of water, and kids 394 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: would drink it, everybody would drink it. It usually had 395 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: pretty low amounts of alcohol in it. But it's taking 396 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: those that same idea of using things like sassafras or 397 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: um sasparilla, ginger, yeah, or whatever, and putting it together 398 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: with a spark these this new sparkling water that you 399 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: could get from a tap at a soda fountain. That 400 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: was the big innovation. Remarkable. Yeah, and uh, pharmacists at 401 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: the time they were adding some booze like not negligible 402 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: amounts like uh, alcoholics would uh if they were broke, 403 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: they might go to the pharmacy to get you know 404 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: what amounts to like a shot of whiskey and their 405 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: little elixir because it wasn't tax like alcohol was, so 406 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: they could get a cheaper drink. And I guess that 407 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: was more socially acceptable too, because you're going for medicine 408 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: rather than going to the bar for leisure. Let me 409 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: get my medicine, right exactly. Uh what else? What else? 410 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: Drugs like not just alcohol like um, drugs, drugs like brooks, 411 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: just go ahead and say it. Drugs, Heroin, yeah, heroin, morphine, opium, uh, 412 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: cannabis trick nine. Yeah. And this is pretty Food and 413 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: Drug Act of nineteen o six that this was going on. 414 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: So if you wanted to pick me up, you would 415 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: trot down to the store in the morning to the 416 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: pharmacy and you would get your cocaine drink. And I 417 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: guess the heroine wasn't to pick me up. That was 418 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: a take me down, take me down. You had that 419 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Um. Yeah, the well 420 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: you remember in the Bars episode we talk about bidders 421 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: and cocktails. Those were originally like medicinal supposedly you know, 422 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: well people still swear about this stuff for like a 423 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: tummy ache. Right. I guess I could see bidders giving 424 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: you a tummy ache if you had too much. But yeah, 425 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: you know you'd be the one to know you like 426 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: your bidders, right, I like bidders. I'm not well, you 427 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: know me, you don't drink a lot of that stuff, 428 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: but just the name itself turns me off. So I 429 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: came across um something in here phosphates, right, I'm like, 430 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: what is a phosphate is a type of drink that 431 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: you could get around this time, mid the late nineteenth 432 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: century and even up into into the twentieth century. It 433 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: was a very famous type of soda fountain drink like here, son, 434 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: have a nice cold phosphate, Yeah, exactly right. And a 435 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: phosphate usually was some sort of sweetener, uh, some kind 436 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: of usually a fruit maybe like cherry syrup or something 437 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: like that. And um, carbonated water, and then the stuff 438 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: called acid phosphate and acid phosphate um is this compound 439 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: that gives it brings out like the sour notes in 440 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: in whatever drink it's in. It gives you a little 441 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: bit of a tingle, a little bit of a kick. 442 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: It's weird. And I looked, I'm like, is this stuff 443 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: still around? Surely enough? It is, so I Am going 444 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: to get some and try to figure out what to 445 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: do with it. It's gonna be awesome. But the phosphate 446 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: that was another thing you would put into. And originally 447 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: phosphates were thought to are things like hypertension. So like 448 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: all these things that really just kind of came to 449 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: form a taste or a flavor, a mouth feel of 450 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: what we now see as a soft drink originally started 451 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: out as medicine, booze or drugs, right, and then all 452 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: of them would be put together and you would go 453 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: drink in the morning, say I'm just getting some medicine. 454 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 1: Uh well, and this is a time, of course, like 455 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, this article points out where'd you get this? 456 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: By the way, this is really good. This is actually 457 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: we should have given a shout out already. This is 458 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: a Collector's Weekly article Hunter Oatman Stanford, who just has 459 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: written some pretty interesting stuff Collector's Weekly. It's like really 460 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: bizarre that they put out some of the finest articles 461 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: on the internet. Is that bizarre just because you would 462 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: think it'd be so niche that like they they would 463 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: just be too narrow, But they're actually really good at 464 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: taking in the expansiveness of whatever they're talking about the 465 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: history of stuff that uh, this is a time, um 466 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: they point out in the article in the late eighteen 467 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: hundreds when the quote here is cocaine was a wonder 468 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: drug when it was first discovered. It was marvelous medicine 469 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: that could do you no harm. Right, the early days 470 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: of cocaine, when there was like this stuff just makes 471 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: you feel great, Right, what's the problem? Yeah, it's great. 472 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: It's a bracer, yeah, which was the you know what 473 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: people thought all the way up until Like what I 474 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: thought was funny was that the the person who was 475 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: talking about, um, how much cocaine was usually found, Yeah, 476 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: in a drink, uh, hundreds of a Graham And then 477 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: the person goes on to say about a tenth of 478 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: a line of cocaine, right, yeah, And then they say 479 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: or a bump, right, not that I would know. They 480 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 1: also said, I'm joking about the bump part that they 481 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: did say a tenth of a line, that's what he's 482 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: talking about. Bizarre measurement. It depends on the line, I 483 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: guess too, right. I mean, it's a weird thing to quantify. 484 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: But I've seen you know, you know what I mean, 485 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: like a tent of the line, like a like a hog, 486 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: just like you know, a respectable one's a little rail. Uh. Yeah, 487 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: I thought that was an odd quote from that guy too. Um. 488 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: And here's the thing as far as cocaine being and 489 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: we'll talk about Coca Cola coming up to but I 490 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: found a lot of varying amounts from negligible to significant. Um. 491 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: I found one thing that said it took thirty glasses 492 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: to produce an actual dose of the drug. But I've 493 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: also seen you know, this guy says it's like a bump. 494 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: So like, I don't I don't know who to believe. 495 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: And I think the secrets probably died with the people 496 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: that that had these recipes back then. Like I don't 497 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: know if we can know for sure how much cocaine. Uh. 498 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Coca Cola still officially says that there was no cocaine, 499 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: But no do they I think that's their their official stance. Um, well, 500 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: everybody else says there was definitely cocaine. And do you 501 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: want to take a break then and talk about coca cola? 502 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: All right, Josh, whether you're wearing suits, sweatpants, or a 503 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: Canadian tuxedo, you're gonna spend twenty four hours a day 504 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: just about in your underwear, that's right. 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So, Chuck, 524 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about how you could find everything from heroin 525 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: to uh, cannabis to um well, cocaine and drinks, and 526 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: most famously you found cocaine as far as everybody apparently, 527 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: but Coca Cola says in Coca Cola. Yeah, and and 528 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: if you work at Coke or something like that, please 529 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: right in and explain to us how everyone else in 530 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: the world says that there was cocaine in it. And 531 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: apparently if on Earth recipes for Coca Cola that and 532 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: involved cocaine. But how is it not in Coca Cola. 533 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: We wanna know if that unless they've changed their stance. 534 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: But this thing I found that says uh their official 535 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: stances that it did not, so we'll see um all right, 536 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: So it's eight six, late eighteen hundreds, and there's a 537 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: former colonel uh in the Confederate Army Civil War vet 538 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: named Doc Pemberton. They called him Doc. His parents didn't 539 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: name him Doc. He went on to be a pharmacist, 540 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: John Pemberton, And uh, he's trying to find a solution 541 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: for Civil War soldiers who were addicted to U narcotics 542 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: painkillers because they did pretty lousy battlefield treatment. Sure, well, 543 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: they did the best it could. Yeah, well, I was 544 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: medicine wasn't far along back then. Uh. And so he 545 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: concocted this thing um called Coca cola. That was the 546 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: original Coca cola. Is it true? Do you have in 547 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: there that it was um originally made with still water 548 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: and that no one liked it, and then he with 549 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: carbonated water. It seems senseless because water was all arrayed. Ye, 550 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: that didn't make any sense. I could see that though 551 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: a misstep. Uh. And it was um first sold at 552 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: Jacob's Pharmacy in Atlanta, Georgia for a nickel. Where's that? 553 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: That was downtown? That that was all there was a 554 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: Atlanta back then, like Eman Park was a suburb, was 555 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: considered a suburb. And for those of you don't know, 556 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Emin Park now is just a neighborhood right off of downtown. 557 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: In the suburbs are forty miles outside of uh So. 558 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: Dr Pemberton makes this sells it at Jacob's Pharmacy. His partner, 559 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: Frank Robinson, was a bookkeeper and partner. He's the one 560 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: actually named at Coca Cola. He designed that script that 561 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: they still used today. He came up with the first uh, 562 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: I guess slow in, which was the pause that refreshes, 563 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: And they started giving away coupons for the stuff for 564 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: like a free Coca Cola, which got its name because 565 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: it contained elements from the coca plant and cola nuts 566 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: right from from Nigeria, I believe is where they originated. 567 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: So it's like a very on the nose and cocoline. 568 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: Coal plants have like tons of caffeine in them. Yeah, 569 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: so cocaine and lots of caffeine. So I was doing 570 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: the job basically. Uh And in nineteen sixteen they developed 571 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: that distinctive contoured bottle, which it took a lot longer 572 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: to get that patented. I think like the seventies or 573 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: something surprising, but I think that they said. The idea 574 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: was they wanted you to be able to tell it 575 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: like in the dark if you're groping around. Yeah, the 576 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: had a coke bottle in your hand. So Coke wasn't 577 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: the only one putting drugs in their drinks, no, of 578 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: course not um. Like we said, there are plenty of 579 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: other drugs. Seven up very famously had lithium citrate in 580 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: it until the I think the fifties or sixties even 581 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: maybe Lithium of course is the very famous mood stabilizer 582 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: used to treat things like bipolar disorder and depression and 583 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff. Interesting, So you could drink seven 584 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: up up. Ah, So we jumped ahead a little bit, 585 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,479 Speaker 1: going back again to the early eighteen hundreds is when 586 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: these flavored SODA's really first kind of came on the 587 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: scene and they started um a lot of citrus drinks um. 588 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: And the theory was that like people used to lemonade 589 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: being a refreshing thing well plus also again this was 590 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: a medicine. Citrus was used to treat scurvy. Yeah, and 591 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: you could get those citric citrus oils pretty easily. So yeah, 592 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: there was a lot of like orange and lemony flavor 593 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: things early on. Um, what else cherry vanilla for some 594 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: of the early flavors. Winter green was a big one. 595 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I wouldn't want winter green soda. 596 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't think grape, nutmeg, pomegranate, cheery. I used to 597 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: love the grape drink when I was a kid. Oh yeah, 598 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: like uh fana or knee high grape Fago. Fago was 599 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: what we had up in OHI. Yeah, we didn't have 600 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fago. I remember fago great, but um 601 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: Fago had a pineapple drink. It was so good. And 602 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: then their red pop was really good too. Yeah. I 603 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: never got into the reds either. I was kind of 604 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: a still lamb an orange guy. I'll drink a fan 605 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: of orange like, I'll drink like ten of them a year, 606 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: and it's just such a treat delicious, like all tenant. 607 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: Once one day I get so sick. You're like, I 608 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: don't even want to see this again. My dad, man, 609 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: he would drink the knee high peach like it was 610 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: going out of style. Yeah, yeah, I never have one 611 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: of those. I'm not into the peach that much. Dude. 612 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: We just got back from Japan. They got peach down 613 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: pat over there. What do you mean growing the trees? No, 614 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: the the flavor in the candy or whatever, like, yeah, 615 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: because it is. It's very delicate. It's not like punching 616 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: you in the face. It's almost like your tongue is 617 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: chasing after the taste because it wants a little more 618 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: really good. And that should be their motto for whatever 619 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: all of it. Uh. They were using generally simple syrups, 620 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: very sugary, simple syrups, and um, like you said, they 621 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: would mix them up right there. They had cool names. 622 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: Who's this guy? DeForest? Sacks had a book called Sax's 623 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: New Guide or hence to Soda Water Dispensers. Like all 624 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: of the books back then, there was an or in 625 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: the title. Ah, he would serve you an opera bouquet 626 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: or an almond sponge or swizzle fizz. That's a good one. 627 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: They just sound delicious, swizzle fizz. It's amazing how this 628 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: relates to our bartending episode. Well, okay, so I'm glad 629 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: you brought that up, because if you talked into a 630 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: really great hotel bar, say like the Waldorf Historia in 631 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: the eighteen eighties or nineties, you would just be like, 632 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, this place is amazing. Even still the day, 633 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: they're pretty great. But they were like brand new marble, 634 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: brand new polished wood, grass and mirrors and onyx and 635 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: all sorts of just beautiful stuff. Right. And if you, 636 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: if you looked a little further along the bar, um, 637 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: you would say, all you'd have to do is put 638 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: in a row of carbonation taps and you you'd have 639 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: yourself a soda fountain. Because um, they were the same 640 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: type of establishment. It was just one served alcoholic drinks 641 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: and the other one served what are considered soft drinks. 642 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: As they got further and further away from medicine, especially 643 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: after the nineteen o six act Um, the A, the 644 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: Food and Drug Purity act Um, they they they they 645 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: took drugs out and replaced it with sugar. And this 646 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: was the big American innovation. But at the time, um, 647 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: they they bars and the soda fountains competed with one another, 648 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: and the best ones looked very similar to one another, 649 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: and they would have equally capable bartenders or soda jerks 650 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: who could mix up some amazing stuff that would knock 651 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 1: your socks off. Um. And then that made it ready 652 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: made to be like the champion of the temperance movement. 653 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: So when the temperance movement came along in like the 654 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: late nineteenth century and really started to get some traction 655 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: all the way up until what nineteen nineteen, the year 656 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: before prohibition, That was right, the last good year. People 657 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: were Yeah, people were like, soda fountains are the place 658 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: to be. Yeah. And there's a there's a lady that 659 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: there's this woman that wrote a book called Soda Shop 660 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: Salvation named Ray Catherine uh May or i May, and um, 661 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: she kind of makes a case for are the good 662 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: that came out of prohibition, which was um, pre prohibition 663 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: there were it was this bar and saloon culture where 664 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: the men went and drank and left their families at 665 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: home and left their kids at home. And she argues 666 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: that because of prohibition, the soda shops won out, or 667 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: at least for a while, and there was a big 668 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: boom and all of a sudden, women and children were 669 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: going out to eat more as families with her with 670 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: her dads, and that there was like more dining out. 671 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: There was a big rise in sugar as a whole, 672 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: like this when ice cream really started to boom. Um, 673 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: maybe part and parcel to the to the uh floats 674 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: like soda floats with ice cream, but um, yeah, she 675 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: said you know, some good things came out of prohibition. 676 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: She said, the USA needed a reset, was how she 677 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: put it, just period like the sort of the cultures 678 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: that came around because the Prohibition was you know, we 679 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: were heading down a dark road, she thinks, with the 680 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: saloon and bar culture and leaving the families out of it. So, um, yeah, 681 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: I thought it's pretty interesting. Take. Yeah, I remember that 682 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: from our Bars episode two that after Prohibition, because the 683 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: speakeasy didn't have any rules to follow, it was like 684 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: a new thing. Um, women started showing up and they 685 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: they've been going to bars ever since. But before that 686 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: it was strictly like males. Yea interesting and so even before, 687 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: but during and including after um Prohibition, Chuck, the soda 688 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: fountain was just immense, Like I think in uh oh, 689 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: I can't remember. Somewhere in the nineteenth century, the mid 690 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: nineteenth century, New York City had like six hundreds something 691 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: soda fountains, and just New York City, right, there were 692 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of them around the United States. In 693 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: ninety nine, there was something like sixty thousand pharmacies in 694 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: the United States of them had a soda fountain. Amazing. 695 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: There was one in um in New York called the 696 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Drug Company. It was at penn Station they sold. 697 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: The name says it all. They sold. On a good day, 698 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: they would sell drinks to nine thousand customers. They made 699 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: two hundred fifty grand a year selling soda soft drinks UM, 700 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: which is like three and a half million dollars in 701 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: sales in two thousand and fifteen money. And then all 702 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden starts to dry up. Like we said, 703 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 1: by the fourties of fifties, they have become quaint. By 704 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: the seventies they were down to I think a third 705 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: of pharmacy has had a soda fountain still now today, 706 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, good luck finding them. There's just a handful 707 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: around going to CBS and hey, jerk Minnesota and they'll 708 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: throw you out of there. Um, there's like kind of 709 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: a revival going on now, but uh, it's just there. 710 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: They just virtually disappeared. And what's interesting is they've actually 711 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 1: tracked what killed the soda fountain and there's a few 712 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: a few factors that were pretty interesting. Yeah of him. Uh, 713 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: And we've talked about car culture and the culture of 714 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: the expressways and highways and the suburbs and how America grew, um, 715 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: shunning public transportation in favor of cars and highways, and 716 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: that was one of the big things. You know, people 717 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: the little downtown Stone Mountain pharmacy wasn't as popular because 718 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: people didn't live anywhere near there anymore. Right, I mean 719 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: some people did, of course, but uh, people were flying 720 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: the coope basically, Yeah, spending time out on the open road. Um, 721 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: you didn't really have that. You didn't want to spend 722 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 1: as much time like hanging around the soda fountain. Maybe 723 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 1: you just wanted some refreshment to go right to drive 724 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,439 Speaker 1: through culture yeah. Um. And then probably the bottle cap 725 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,919 Speaker 1: was the thing that really killed the soda fountain. Yeah, 726 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: because now you could enjoy it at home, yeah, or 727 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: you could buy it on the road and just take 728 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: it with you. Um. Yeah. That the bottle cap probably 729 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: more than anything, killed the soda fountain. I read a 730 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: thing too that said Coca Cola invented the six pack, 731 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah, at one point they started selling them, 732 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: you know, in six packs, and I became like the 733 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: number that's really surprising. Yeah, or they, at least they 734 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: like to claim they take credit for that. No, cocaine 735 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: came up with the six. I don't know what the 736 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: truth is anymore. Have you ever been to the World 737 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: of Coke? Oh? Sure, I haven't been to the new 738 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: one though, I haven't been at all. You've never been 739 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: to the World of Coke. No, it's one of those 740 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: things in your hometown that you ignore. Have you been 741 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: to the the Center for Human Rights, the Civil the 742 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: Human Rights Museum. That's amazing. Where the MLK Center. No, No, 743 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: this is newer. Okay, it's just a couple of years old, 744 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: but it's down It's like the aquarium. World of Coke, 745 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: the Human Rights Museum. No, I haven't seen that. You 746 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: gotta check it out. It's a it's a downer, but 747 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: in all the time to death. But I'm not going 748 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: to the World of Coke. Yeah, it's like New Yorkers. 749 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: They don't go to the Guggenheimer Central Park. It's just 750 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: one of those hometown things you ignore. Kidding, of course, 751 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: So you got anything else? I got nothing else. If 752 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: you want to know more about soda fountains and soda 753 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: pop and all that kind of stuff, you can search 754 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 1: the internet for it. You can type those words into 755 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot Com on the search bar. And 756 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: also we want to give a shout out to again 757 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: Collectors Weekly, the Art of Drink, and today I found 758 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: out all three of which we used as some source 759 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: material too. Yeah, along with our own how supp works 760 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: article how soda fountains work. So thanks to you all 761 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: for making great stuff. And as I said that it's 762 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: time for listener mail, I'm gonna call this we Change 763 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: the Life. Hey, guys, want to say thanks for all 764 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: the great shows. Let you know that you had a 765 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: big impact on my life. Some time ago during a 766 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: listener feedback I'm sorry Facebook Q and A, a young 767 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: listener asked advice on career paths, and you said that 768 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: you should do what they love trust me. And that's 769 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: not like the most innovative advice ever, but that's what 770 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: we said. At the time. I was being made redundant 771 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: from a career in buying, but new it wasn't what 772 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: I loved. I took your advice. I got some experience 773 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 1: volunteering at school, having always learned to love and share ideas, 774 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: and that's start a whole new career path. Uh. Now 775 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,959 Speaker 1: I've just finished my teaching qualification UM, which was really 776 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: tough as a mature student raising my own kids, and 777 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: next week start my first job as a class teacher 778 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: at Y six Primary. Um, I think this is the 779 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: end of elementary school for you guys. Ages tend to 780 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: eleven kids. I hope I can engage and inspire children 781 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: in my class of what you do with your listeners. 782 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: So I wanted to say, cheers. You can use us 783 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: in the classroom. That's one good way. Yeah, and that 784 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,439 Speaker 1: is from Catherine a k A. Mrs young Thanks a lot, 785 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: Mrs young Man is very awesome. Congratulations, way to go. Yeah, 786 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: and she was gutted to not see us in the UK. 787 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: Good we got it a lot of Brits. I think 788 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: it's hilarious a popular term. They all said the same thing. 789 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 1: They were good interesting, Well thanks Mrs young again, nicely done. Uh. 790 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: If you want to get in touch with us, you 791 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: can tweet to us at s y s K podcast 792 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: or Joshua Clark. You can hang out with us on 793 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,919 Speaker 1: Facebook at Charles W. Chuck Bryant or Facebook dot com 794 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 1: slash stuff you should know. 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