WEBVTT - Interview with Brenda Song 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:21.119 I don't know umber. I'm calling a lof meeting folks today. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:26.040 I am joined by a very very special guest. Brenda 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.440 Song's career is longer than my. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:30.240 Dario. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:36.760 I've dated quite quite the number anyway, Like literally, she's 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.000 been doing TV for like thirty years something like that. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:44.199 I was like three four. Oh my, I know, I'm psychotic. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:45.080 There's something wrong with me. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:50.040 I mean, she's ship out to sum She's London Tipton, 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.920 the Hotel heiress from the Sweet Life of Zach and Cody. 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.120 Are you reading my IMDb or are you reading like 0:00:58.120 --> 0:00:58.520 a bio? 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.279 I'm bringing by all. We wrote by we wrote this, 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:09.440 we wrote this out the social network, and a lot 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:11.560 of you folks if you're if you're listening to this podcast, 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:16.440 you know her as Daisy from New Girl. Please welcome 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.000 Brenda Song to the show. 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.920 Thank you for having me. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.360 What were you when I saw you in Serrano? What 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:25.479 were you promoting? 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.560 I was promoting a movie that's going to come out 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.559 in January called The Last Show Girl with Pamela Anderson, Jamielee, Curtis, 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:33.240 Dave Batista. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.040 Here in a shipka Billy Lord I am. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.240 I literally just I'm in the background holding lights like 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.760 I am so just to be a part of this project. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.560 It was wonderful. It was so I hadn't seen you 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.520 in so long. It was so nice to see. It 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:47.760 was such a lovely surprise. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.960 Oh my gosh. Yes, that was a fun That was 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.440 a fun little gathering that we had there. And we're 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.720 gonna at the Toronto Focast. Well, that was my first 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.520 time being there. I never yeah, I mean I've been 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.320 I go to often, but that was my first time 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:02.600 at the at the festival. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.520 And you were promoting the Saturday Night Life movie. 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.600 Right, yeah, yeah, it's out now. So for all those 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.560 folks who haven't seen it, you are a fucking asshole. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:18.280 But oh you haven't seen it yourself. You should have 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.080 made it up. Yeah, you know how the story is. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.400 When do you have time? When do you have time? 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.320 To be real? That's true, that's true. I put me 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.680 and my daughter, we have our date nights here, so 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.280 her and I just watch pretty much the same movies 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:35.080 over and over and over again Saturday. Yeah, I just 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.200 let her watch what I do exactly. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:39.840 Imagine. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:41.959 Oh, your kids are only allowed to watch the things 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.280 you're in listen you know. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:45.880 What I mean. I run a tight ship. They got 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:50.120 to know with education, get to know your parents. I 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:55.560 only do educational work. So let's dive in you. What 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.320 is what is your New Girl origin story? Like? How 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.040 did like how did this like? What had you seen 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.480 the show before or you start watching it or have 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:05.679 you watched it? You know? 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.919 Uh? What is what is New Girl? What is the 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.640 World's the world? Here's the thing. I'm sure you guys 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:14.799 get this a lot, but the. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.919 Truth is this was the first and the only show 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.800 that I was a huge fan of, watched the entire 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.640 first season, was obsessed with. It was my favorite show. 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.280 And when I got the call, They're like, oh, there's 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.320 this part that I think would be great for you, 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.840 but it like literally starts shooting next week. And I 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.760 was like, I don't care what it is. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.000 Before I even like knew what it was, I was like. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:37.240 Yes, a thousand percent. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.320 And then I read it and it was such a cooler, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.040 was such a fun episode, and I was like, this 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.200 is the dream. I get to beet in the loft, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.160 I get to meet everybody, and this sort of story 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.520 and this like such a such a different character for me, 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:52.280 because obviously I forgot that this show is like we 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.360 shot this ten years ago, a little over ten years ago, 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.080 and I remember the time. I was like kind of 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.600 just coming out out of finishing up like the sweet 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.080 Life stuff, and it was like very much. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:05.760 I feel like. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.400 Life imitates art, art imitates life, like this is sort 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.320 of was where I was in my life. And so 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.040 when that came to me, I was like, oh my gosh, 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.040 this is my favorite show. I don't care what I'm doing. Yes, yes, yes, 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.280 And it was the best it was. I had, like 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.840 I was so nervous. I remember that first day on said, 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.440 I was so nervous because I'm like, I am such 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.440 a geek. I love all of you guys so much. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.360 I was like such a creepo fanatic, like I could 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.080 not wait, and it was so much fun. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:35.760 I had like such a blast. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:37.240 I know what it was. I know what made you 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.240 nervous because you realized in that moment once you saw 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.280 the scripts that you're going to be working with an 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.320 Emmy winner, and uh, that freaked you out. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:50.000 I couldn't I couldn't handle it. Couldn't handle it. They 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.520 literally said, future Emmy Winner laure and Morris you ready 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.279 for it and I wasn't. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:01.160 So when our character is me you you Winston feels 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.080 okay to go and talk to Daisy because you're wearing 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:07.120 an engagement ring. And you know, yes, I've. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.920 Used that trick before. I've used that trick before. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.400 So you've used this trick before, would you? So? Did 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.479 you find it useful on the dating scene before you 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:16.280 met your husband? 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:16.560 You know? 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.360 Or did did you use that on your husband's not? 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.200 We're a hippa, We're a hipA. You know, we're a 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.200 hip couple. We're you know, we've got two kids. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:28.760 I just here's the thing. 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.720 We've got to guys are living in Sin. Oh you're 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.279 living in Sin? I see, we are? 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.600 We are, we are living in. 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.000 My grandma used to say, oh, y'all shacking up, y'all 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:38.839 living in sin How dare you? 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:41.960 But you know what it was? 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.279 It actually happened by accident the very first time it happened. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.480 We I'm you know me, I don't really go out 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.919 very much anyway. I usually just go to dinner with 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:50.680 my girlfriends. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:51.479 We like. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:53.920 That's that's my idea of going out. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.360 And when I was younger, I remember I went out 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.160 with my girlfriend and her ring was too big and 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.080 she was like, can you where you have you have? 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:02.560 We have the same sized fingers and I was like, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.680 oh my god, let me try it on and she's 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:05.039 like can you. 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.160 I don't want to lose it, so I was like, 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:07.800 oh my god, I'll wear your ring. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.120 And I remember this group came over and all this stuff, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.840 and I was like, oh wow, I've gotten like no 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.240 one's interested. Fine, but it was like this weird and 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.320 all of them like, oh, how long have you been engaged? 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.000 And I was like, get. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.120 Wait a second, and and then it kind of like 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.120 my girlfriends and I were talking about and I'm not 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.599 gonna lie. There are times where I have a fake 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.240 like engagement rief. We just want to go out and 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.480 like don't even want to, Like it's the best excuse 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.960 and it's terrible, but like it's like, sorry, I'm engaged, 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.840 don't even want because that's not what we're going out 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:42.040 there for. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.159 I know it's terrible, and it's. 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.960 Not that it's terrible. I'm just saying you're setting yourself 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.799 up with danger because there is an entire group out there. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.200 I'm not saying I'm in one of these like group 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.440 chats or anything like that. But there's a tire uh 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:58.159 uh brigade of men that only want to date women 0:06:58.240 --> 0:06:59.599 that are in relationships. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:01.880 Wait what why? 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.600 Yeah, because I don't have to you don't like, you're 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.760 not gonna stick around, You're gonna you go. You gotta 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.480 be like I gotta go to but I gotta go 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:10.360 home to my husband. 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:16.280 It's one of the things that I remember when I 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.160 when I read The Nerd for the first time and 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.040 like our kind of like breakup. I remember reading it 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:26.320 and like laughing because Daisy was so unabashedly like, yeah, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:27.880 I'm I'm seeing a guy. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.760 And I respect that because the thing about what is 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:31.280 the point of you? 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.040 Come on, if you want to, like, if you want 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.200 to go and mess around, don't be in a relationship 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:37.200 if you don't want, you know. 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.840 Hold on. It wasn't Daisy. Wasn't Daisy wasn't that upfront 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:46.120 about it when she was trying to lie. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:50.360 She was trying to lie. I mean those did those 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.080 not look like my shoes a little more? And I 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.200 feel like I could they were. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.200 We used to always call you big feet, Brenda. I 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.360 was like, oh, okay when we. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.200 Were rehearsing that we pulled out this shoe and it 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.040 was so comically like gigantic and also ridiculous. 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.520 It was it's it was very fun. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.360 But you know it's funny because of that, because I'll 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.800 tell you because of that, there have been maybe a 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.680 couple occasions in my life where if I just start 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.520 dating someone and like I'm talking like maybe this is 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.720 our first time, my first time going to her apartment 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.480 or home or whatever, and I'll see a pair of 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:29.440 shoes that clearly are not hers, and it's none of 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.200 my business. I just got there for the first time, 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.080 and I have I have flashbacks of that episode of 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.320 That's Us filming that scene. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.120 That's funny, you know, the gift that keeps on giving Lamar. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.840 But like you said, you know, she cheats, she gaslights, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:53.160 she lies. Is there any defen what's your real defense 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:54.000 for Daisy Spain? 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:58.040 My real defense is we were not in a committed relationship. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.720 I feel like being in your twenties, you're figuring stuff out. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.000 You you're offering to like babysit my cat, Which is 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.040 really funny because when we filmed that, I was not 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:09.640 a cat person, never had a cat, And now I 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:15.480 have three, like I'm full baby, and I feel like, 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.559 you know, she's just kind of like, why she's not 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:18.040 putting all. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.600 Her eggs in one basket? You know, I feel it, 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:21.199 you know what I mean? 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.440 You were things weren't clear, so therefore you know, she's 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.680 just having a good time until things were clear, because 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.960 she did say, well, no, I guess we lied because 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:34.560 she was seeing someone until we're exclusive. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:35.559 But that. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.360 I think I recall she was like, no, actually I did's. 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:46.160 Yes, I mean, that's why I just stay single so 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.600 I don't have to deal with all this this tomfoolery. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.560 So I'm did I hear this correctly? You were on 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.120 Disney but also doing the Social Network? Was that a 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.520 was that a bit of a conflict there was that? 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.880 What were or was it fine to just get out 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.080 and be able to go and do this movie because 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:16.959 I hear Disney runs a pretty tight shit, Oh a 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:17.640 thousand percent? 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:17.960 It was. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.120 It was pretty crazy because I remember at the. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:24.880 Time, I you know, we're in a sitcom. You rehearse 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:29.360 three days, you you shoot for two days, and we'd 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:30.440 been like doing this for a while. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:31.600 Now. This was like during I. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.680 Believe the last season of the Sweet Life on deck 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.760 and I got this audition and I was like, there. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:38.640 They never let me. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.360 They're not gonna let me out to go an audition, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.080 and I like read, I was, oh my god, I 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.760 need this, Like this is you know, fight Club is 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.800 one of my favorite movies and favorite books. David Fincher 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.320 is one of my favorite directors of all time. So 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:50.760 when I read this, I was like, oh my god, 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.959 and mind you I'm getting like two pages. Everything is 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:54.920 like blacked out, but like two lines. I have really 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.439 no idea what I'm doing, but like it's a Facebook movie, 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.599 and I just knew that I wanted to work with 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.520 these p and it just happened that the casting practor 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.640 Larray mayfield her offices in Hollywood, like not even ten 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:07.520 minutes from where we film. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:08.200 We were shooting in. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.839 Hollywood at the time, and I went during my lunch 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.040 break and I went, I auditioned, and then they were like, 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.960 got a call back, Can you come and read with 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.679 David Fincher? And I was like like, are you kidding me? 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.240 The dream and I was able to go. I think 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.640 it was like then either the next day or one 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.600 of the days it was again during my lunch break. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:28.079 It just kind of. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.360 I didn't tell anybody until I booked it, and then 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.880 they had to approve it, and then they didn't approve 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:38.840 it because of, of course the intended bathroom scene. And 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.480 I was, yeah, I mean, I was heartbroken. And I 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:46.480 had to chat with the head of casting and with 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.679 the head of Disney Channel at the time, and we 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.520 were like because they were like, we understand this is 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:52.839 a great thing, but you just can't do it. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.640 And I was like, I'm an actor. This is the 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.240 last sea. I am an actor. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.839 This is the last season of a show that I have. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.680 We've been doing for seven years. I was like, remember 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.760 when you first met me? Was I was I a 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:05.840 hotel heiress. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.000 I don't remember being an hotel heiress. I was like, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:09.680 I'm an actor. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.280 And I was like, and what have I ever done 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.080 in my personal life to ever draw any bad attention, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.680 bad publicity to your company? Have I misrepresented you guys 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.080 in any way, shape or form, because if I have, 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:21.000 please let me know. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.240 But it's did you have a bulletproof car? Or is 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:24.199 that that I make that up? 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.280 Oh Dary, how do you remember that. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:29.640 Lifetime? 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:35.080 It was a different lifetime ago. I was maybe dating 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:35.960 a rapper. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:41.119 Soldier Boy. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.480 But and the thing about it is, and you know, 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.400 and fortunate enough, they obviously you know, understood and allowed 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.600 me to do it. They it was funny though, because 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.600 they had to read the script before they approved it, 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.199 and they were like, we can't give you the script, 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.200 so they sent over like the scenes that I was 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:57.920 in for them to like sort of see that it 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.240 wasn't as nefarious as they thought. But thank goodness, because 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.320 I would have I would have been so heartbroken because. 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:08.400 I think they so they obviously they allowed it, yes, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.600 but would you say after we saw how great the 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.120 movie was, were they like, oh, okay, awesome or was it. 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.160 Like no, here's the thing. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.760 I will say this a Disney Channel and everyone there 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.720 has been nothing but extremely supportive of every aspect. It 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.240 was the only time that I've ever actually had to 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.000 even sort of had to like speak up like I'm 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:31.840 very very fortunate, like they. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:34.839 Just I mean, I wouldn't be here without them. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.800 I mean the opportunity, the experience, the work experience, the 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.040 life experience. It's been absolutely incredible. Like I really don't 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.160 have much to complain about. It's just the simple fact 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.360 that this one job is just so heartbreaking. Because I 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.319 can also understand. But at the time, I was twenty 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.160 two or twenty three on the last season of. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.480 A show that you know, we we knew. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:56.520 We were coming to an end, and it was actually 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.400 pretty crazy because I feel like we wrapped it and 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.160 I had like less than a week off, and then 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.000 I started rehearsals on this movie, which was the polar opposite, 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:08.120 and it was such a shock to me my system 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:09.760 as an actor, as a human. But it was amazing 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.440 because I think it reinvigorated my passion for acting. Like 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.520 just to jump from such a different project to work 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:20.160 with people who are, you know, just so talented, so 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.080 incredibly just so different from what I was doing. It 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.240 just really inspired me and kind of like lit a 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.760 fire under me to remind myself why I love doing 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.560 what I love. Is like we get to do crazy 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.600 things from day to day. Like we can be working 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.320 on a sitcom and then working on a David Fincher 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:35.480 movie a week apart. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.040 It's really crazy. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:42.360 Oh yeah, it doesn't. The happy endings don't happen for 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.280 folks all the time the way it happened for you 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:49.680 in this situation. I had a situation years ago. I 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.680 was I started as an actor in Chicago. I get 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.480 a job as a TV host for Beet in New York. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.000 You know, wasn't my favorite sitting at the moment, I 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.840 you know, I had to move to New York, and 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:03.920 New York was so busy that it gave me a 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.880 headache every single day. But luckily for me, my show 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.440 came on right after our flagship show, and I started 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:15.320 the show with jokes and Ellen DeGeneres would watch the show, 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.240 and then she would watch my show and asked me 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.760 if I could come and do her show as a correspondent. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.880 And they were willing to work with my bet schedule 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.560 and fly me back and forth. But b Et was like, no, 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.600 you cannot go and do it. And I tell you, 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.480 when I tell you, I was so hurt by that. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.280 I was like, people, Rob blow does this all the time, 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.360 Rob low Rob Lowe is on shows. He's hosting shows, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.640 show seventeen shows, competing shows too. 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:52.640 Yes, literally unrivaled, like two game shows, two different networks. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.400 Yes, And so I you know, so to hear that 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.160 it worked out for you is great, you know, it 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.400 just kind of especially nowadays. Lets me it, lets me 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.920 know that we're in a good space with streaming and 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.200 all these things that you know you can't you shouldn't 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.400 really tie performers down necessarily. I understand if it's in 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.360 direct competition with something, but you know, you have all 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.400 this talent and all this ability. Imagine we never saw 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.880 you in that movie, you know, it would be a 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:19.760 different conversation. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:24.480 It's can I tell you? I mean I always say that, 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.120 like for me, I can only speak of myself and 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.760 my journey. But it's you know, I think it's just 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.520 it's about being honest with I don't know. I don't 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.000 think if I had called and had like an honest 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.240 conversation with this you know, head of casting and with 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:40.880 you know, the president of Disney and just was like 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.200 really honest about it, I don't think like this would 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:45.960 have happened. And it was like a huge lesson for 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.480 me to learning how to speak up for myself because 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.200 me normally would be like, oh my god, that's such 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.760 a bummer, like but for me, I'm like, oh, the 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:53.720 show is my priority. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.680 That's what I'm working on. Like I get it. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.320 But there are just times when it takes something this 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.800 big or it's like career altering, life altering for me 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.320 to learn how to stand up for yourself. And I 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.359 think that's the biggest lesson for me, is like, even 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.160 if at the end of the day they had said 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.359 no I can, I can walk away happy knowing that 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.439 I at least stood up for myself and tried to. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.200 Like I always just ask for my day in court, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.679 whether it's an audition or in fighting for you know, 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.720 making something work, because at the end of the day, 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.320 seeing actors you know in different projects only helps the 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.640 projects that they're currently in, you know what I mean, 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.359 getting out there doing different things, and also it makes 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.040 me a better human, a better actor for the projects 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.879 that I'm working on. I never want to be resentful 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.960 of any production that I'm doing because obviously, like I'm 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.600 so incredibly grateful. How many people get to wake up 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.320 every day and go to work and be like, I 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.199 get to do the thing I've dreamed of doing my 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.520 entire life. You know, it sounds so cheesy to be like, oh, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.560 I get to wake up and live my dream. You know, 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.359 it's like it sounds so corny, but it's the truth. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:54.720 I mean, on my like. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:58.119 On days where I'm tired or stressed or whatever, it's like, Brenda, 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.800 this is what you do for a living. You know, 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.840 you go to work and you literally step into someone 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.320 else's shoes. You get to like perform and like the 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.399 artistic for your job. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:15.800 Chill hours. So yeah, yeah, I mean, like thirty thirty 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.680 years in this business starting as a child. How how 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:22.399 are you so well adjusted? Your outlook is so not 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:26.520 jaded whatsoever. You're very positive about it. You know, how 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.320 do you how do you look at life that way? 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:29.720 How do you look at the business that way? 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.240 First of all, I think it all comes down to family. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:37.000 Like I think, you know, being a child actor is 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:41.720 a very very specific a niche and a very you know, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.560 it's not easy learning rejection at such a young age, 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.479 understanding learning this business at such a young age. I 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.280 was very fortunate because my family never treated us such. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.960