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Speaker 2: Don't want to ask your question real.

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Speaker 1: Good, let's just keep it real straight. Shout with no chase,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get a little bit rougher.

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Speaker 3: I'm here for those who really believe in the American process,

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Speaker 3: all of us street shot, no chase with your girl

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Speaker 3: chest and figure out on the black effect podcasting.

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Speaker 1: At word, at work. I'm not saying it on our doors.

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Speaker 3: What I'm telling you is one hundred percent of your

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Speaker 3: time they be talking to your voters one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I'm not changing that one hundred percent, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: And it's not on Instagram and it's not on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: I'm not changing. I'm not I'm not budging on that.

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Speaker 3: It's not that I'm saying they don't do it. What

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you is you only got so

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Speaker 3: much time in the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 4: And uh and just to I know you hate the

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Speaker 4: Devil's advocate piece when you Devil's advocate, like, I understand

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Speaker 4: the thought of theory behind you know, raising national profiles,

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Speaker 4: especially for these you know, Michael races that may be

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Speaker 4: I understand the theory behind us raised the national profile.

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Speaker 4: That would increase fundraising dollars that are you know, and

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Speaker 4: we could leverish that towards the you know that district.

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Speaker 4: But you very rarely see that after you know that

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Speaker 4: that profile is being raised. You very rare to see

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Speaker 4: the benefits of having that profile other than I'm posting

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Speaker 4: and keep itself out here just to keep my profile

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Speaker 4: way race you very.

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Speaker 1: But it ain't raised though, But can I can I

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Speaker 1: give you the truth?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 1: Can I step being a B six to give you

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Speaker 1: the truth? Raised within a silo?

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Speaker 5: Is right?

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Speaker 1: See that ain't raised?

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Speaker 2: Right? Important in terms of having those people to make

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Speaker 2: phone calls, giving money, that's right and so forth.

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Speaker 1: But you're not seeing that happen. That's that's right.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this right because I'm in Georgia, right, Sister

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Speaker 2: Tamera is speaking of the silo, right, Sister Tamila, if

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Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, red full.

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Speaker 1: A state Senate seat as well, and she.

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Speaker 2: Was able to get me in a room with the

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Speaker 2: top of black Democrats in the state of Georgia as

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Speaker 2: they were speaking about the topic of local reparations, so

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Speaker 2: that I could explain why lineage based reparations would be

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Speaker 2: a better move than race based legislati race based legislature.

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Speaker 1: So you know it.

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Speaker 2: Has its advantages when you're out there and you're making

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Speaker 2: making moves.

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Speaker 1: Marcella and now.

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Speaker 2: Have worked together on a proposal that we submitted to

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Speaker 2: South Carolina Republican legislators because we are focused on policy

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Speaker 2: not party. So you know, sometimes these profiles that get raised,

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Speaker 2: they have their benefits.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, But again nobody's saying it don't have

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Speaker 3: the benefit that worked that great for the pack. What

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you, if I was tam tamar

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Speaker 3: Uh Tamara Tamaran, I'm apologize. Which one is a Tammarck Tamarra. Okay,

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Speaker 3: if I was to Marria, nobody's going to change my

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Speaker 3: mind on this. I'm glad it worked out for you

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Speaker 3: scholarship and the linage base versus the not base and

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Speaker 3: all of that. But if I was her campaign manager,

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Speaker 3: she wouldn't be getting you and shit because I want

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Speaker 1: She can get you in the room when she get

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Speaker 3: Because according to the numbers here, seven hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: one thousand five hundred and ninety four registered voters. She

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Speaker 3: got twenty eight thousand. That's a damn good number, but

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Speaker 3: her opponent got seven hundred and two thousand. In order

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Speaker 4: No, this was way after the election.

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Speaker 3: No okay, but what happened after The question still remains

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Speaker 3: what happened after it?

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Speaker 1: I don't with her candidates.

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Speaker 3: No, what after you got in the room, And guys,

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Speaker 3: just know, this is how my training is. For those

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Speaker 3: training style like this. After you got in the room

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Speaker 3: and you explaining Linage Base not Lynage reparationists, after you

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Speaker 3: brought out all the books, what happened after that's still

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Speaker 3: not dicing that, nahaim. I'm trying to tell you that, Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's great to get in the room. Yes it's ongoing.

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Speaker 3: be ongoing. What I'm trying to tell you is the

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Speaker 3: twenty eight thousand that she brought to the polls, great job.

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Speaker 3: I'm not thising that are half of those people in

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Speaker 3: Can you get ten thousands of those people to show

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Speaker 3: Can you get ten thousand people tomorrow to show up?

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Speaker 3: That is how those meetings go a little bit faster.

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Speaker 3: I'm nobody saying that good. Nobody saying that good things

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Speaker 3: more time is spent on connecting and building and cooking

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Speaker 1: They're gonna pacify you and listen to what you have

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Speaker 3: At the rally that I attended that I spoke at,

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Speaker 1: That's a damn share. Everybody that rally should be in

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Speaker 1: a pack.

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Speaker 3: What good is it to have three thousand people, two

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to tell you. It was great

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Speaker 4: Now what.

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Speaker 3: Those are the realities, guys, that's the reality of it, Nan,

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Speaker 3: That's just the reality. Do you think if I was

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Speaker 3: building with you. She got seven hundred thousand hands, the

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Speaker 3: knocked door doors, the knock on. Shein't got time be

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Speaker 3: to build with you. What good is she don't have

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Speaker 3: the hell you gonna be the power if you don't

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Speaker 3: get the numbers? Well, I was able to explain fuck

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Speaker 3: all it. Listen, they only listen to you when you do.

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Speaker 3: They only fear numbers, y'all. They don't fear how great

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Speaker 3: you put an event together, how loud you are on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: how many retweets, that's a part of it. But they

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Speaker 3: fear the ability to move bodies. And y'all got too

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Speaker 3: much talent and too many people on this app where

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Speaker 1: When the pack gonna be together, but we're working on it.

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Speaker 3: Well, when the when is working on it, gonna turn

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Speaker 3: gonna ask you. You got a pack, Oh, we're working on it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give my time to this group that I

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Speaker 3: don't even know if they're voters, but yeah, they can

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Speaker 3: help me get money to me, that's grifting. That's using

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Speaker 3: you to them for them to get money. Are there

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Speaker 3: not a serious candidate one or the other? Are there

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Speaker 3: avoiding knocking on them damn doors? The hardest thing to

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Speaker 3: I want to make you know it's only fair was.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it to respond, but nothing's gonna change

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Speaker 3: this hard data that I'm looking at.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the numbers.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at how many times, how many how much

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Speaker 3: time is it gonna take her to get a little

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Speaker 3: ran for Senate. Oh, we made a difference though we

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Speaker 3: got in the room. No, I'd rather you run for

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Speaker 3: House Rep. That's enough to get House Rep. That's enough

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Speaker 3: to get you a city commissioner. Now, Warnock and them,

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Speaker 3: they gotta talk to you now. You ain't introducing nobody

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Speaker 3: in no damn room. You in the room, y'all are

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Speaker 3: not following what I'm saying. Put a one hundred if

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It ain't this and nobody, it ain't not giving no

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Speaker 3: shot him damn them shadow. I'm telling you from an

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Speaker 3: I can't get rid of them. What is he doing

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Speaker 3: still following me? This is twenty twenty three. I moved

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Speaker 3: Nahim from Florida in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Why is my one employee?

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Speaker 3: Why is this employee still following me over over a

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Speaker 3: decade ago? That's why in Orlando, when I show up,

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Speaker 1: Gonna show up.

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Speaker 3: They no hands down. I can get hundreds of people

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Speaker 4: What nothing they.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't do for me.

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Speaker 3: That's how I got Mway Center to break bread, not

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Speaker 3: This is Google verifiable stuff. And go look at the

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Speaker 3: news story when they laid off everybody at the Amway Center.

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Speaker 3: If you don't pay these employees, you need to pay

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Speaker 3: these employees. While they were going through the strike, I

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Speaker 3: had three hundred employees.

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Speaker 4: Nahim.

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Speaker 1: I told him that if I don't stand for you

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Speaker 1: who will.

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Speaker 3: I risked my contract with the city of Orlando and

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Speaker 3: went down to them people and told them, y'all need

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Speaker 3: to take care of these employees.

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Speaker 1: Not only did my three hundred.

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Speaker 3: Employees get fed, fifteen hundred got fed. Every employee that

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Speaker 3: Let you paid. I did a whole campaign called Assist

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Speaker 3: the Bench. Be by myself, just me and my daughter

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Speaker 3: in a city, knowing nobody. These are fucking facts. That's

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Speaker 3: why Jermaine follows me. And guess what. Guess how hard

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Speaker 3: I was on Jamaine? You think I'm hard? I was

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Speaker 3: Followers don't mean shit if you can't get them up

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Speaker 1: You ain't running up on the Capitol. So if you're

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Speaker 3: Actually be in a leadership position, I'm telling you it

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Speaker 3: ain't scaring the white folks that y'all swear y'all scaring y'all.

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Speaker 5: I just want to kind of chime in behind this

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Speaker 5: Years ago on the heels of my affiliation with the

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Speaker 1: But let me just kind of share something with you.

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Speaker 5: In twenty fourteen, this was my fifth run for office

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Speaker 1: And when you're talking about building, you were nailing it.

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Speaker 5: Twenty fourteen, I got thirty seven percent against a white Republican.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats did because they said that she was more electable.

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Speaker 5: After I had built the numbers. I'm knocked on doors.

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Speaker 5: I went to every event in that district twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: In your district?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm not in I'm in two parts of Atlanta

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Speaker 3: I'm not I didn't ask you that I didn't ask

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm in two parts of Georgia right now.

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Speaker 1: Pick one, which one is you state?

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Speaker 5: I'm not asking that testing because I took a political

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two. This is me talking between two counts.

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Speaker 1: It don't matter.

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Speaker 3: Just pick one, pick one. This ain't about you taking

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Speaker 5: I'm in two, I'm.

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Speaker 1: In two parts. Pick one or give me.

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Speaker 5: Both, because I don't right now I don't.

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Speaker 1: Then just pick any rep. Pick any Rep that's not yours.

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Speaker 3: Then we're gonna have to do this conversation the way

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Speaker 3: any state Rep. If it's not yours, just pick anyone,

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Speaker 3: but whoever, Just so you know whoever your state Rep is.

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Speaker 3: They know who you are. You're a public person, they

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Speaker 3: and I don't want to that you You're already in

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Speaker 3: that don't exist. So they know you ran you no, no,

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Speaker 3: not until we get this part down. They know who

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Speaker 3: you're in because you're a public person. So I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't want to, you know, play games. I'm just

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Speaker 3: asking before you proceed, who is a state rep on

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Speaker 3: Maighty?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 5: So twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen, and twenty eighteen. So when

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Speaker 5: You're right, absolutely, and that's what I did twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: When it was twenty one candidates, there was one oarc

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Speaker 1: I went around the state. I went in rural areas.

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Speaker 5: I'm originally from rural Georgia and so just South Georgia

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Speaker 5: I know what it means. And when you're talking about

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Speaker 5: stay in front of these constituents, that's exactly what I did.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 5: The numbers that you mentioned earlier, that was a race

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Speaker 1: Let me say this to you, tesn't.

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Speaker 5: And you know this to be true, whether you talk

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Speaker 1: Give me those eleven thousand votes, it's some truth to that.

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Speaker 5: In twenty twenty two, in the state of Georgia, not

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Speaker 1: Lost their seat in that primary election.

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Speaker 5: Not one incumbent tesn't mathematically improbable.

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Speaker 1: So we got some issues here in Georgia.

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Speaker 5: I don't know the specifics, and I'm still learning about

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Speaker 1: And it ain't all the truth.

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Speaker 5: So many of us who are candidates have gotten out

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Speaker 3: So let's let's be clear. You had to knock on

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, and I mean what I say.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Feel operative right now. I'm speaking from

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Speaker 3: numbers Maisha Maynor that you.

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Speaker 1: Just told me about.

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Speaker 3: Guess how many votes she got? Somebody take a guess

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Speaker 3: how many votes? I'm asking people on Instagram. How many

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Speaker 3: that I just asked sis about. Is it Minor Maynor?

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Speaker 3: This woman won?

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Speaker 1: Huh? That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: She is now state Representative Maynor with sixteen thousand votes.

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Speaker 3: Since you got double her numbers, you got thirty thousand

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Speaker 3: You've done it three and four or five times, trying

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Speaker 3: four million. Forget all of this other stuff y'all talking about.

440
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about field numbers now, I'm talking about numbers.

441
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Speaker 3: If you were my candidate, you wanna be running for that.

442
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: You'll be running for her seat. You got double her numbers.

443
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 3: If you were a state representative. Right now, the meeting

444
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Speaker 3: that you put in I heen with.

445
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 1: They be moving on. You can now build to get.

446
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 3: The next seat and so on, y'all go for these big,

447
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: large seats.

448
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Speaker 1: That take you years and years and years and years

449
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Speaker 1: to bill.

450
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Speaker 3: When you're out pacing people under you and they're getting

451
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Speaker 3: more power. It don't make no sense for you to

452
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 3: have thirty thousand votes and it's a woman that can

453
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 3: only get sixteen thousand to the damn polls. And you

454
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Speaker 3: think it made sense to keep going after four million votes,

455
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: And you think it made sense to talk about something

456
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Speaker 3: going on here with our votes?

457
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Speaker 1: Yeah, something going on? I mean you're running for the

458
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Speaker 1: state seat.

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Speaker 3: The title is gonna take you further than just running

460
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 3: four and five and six times. The person under her

461
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 3: only got thirteen thirteen hundred votes.

462
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Speaker 1: This is a math thing.

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Speaker 3: Forget what y'all talking about on this with this happened

464
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Speaker 3: and that happened in the Republican and the Democrat.

465
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Speaker 1: Girl, I'm talking about how to get you a title.

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Speaker 3: You work in your ass on five years in a

467
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Speaker 3: row when you could have been the I bet the

468
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Speaker 3: numbers under her are even worse.

469
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Speaker 1: Sixteen thousand people showed up at the polls.

470
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Speaker 3: She won the primary with only three thousand, three hundred votes.

471
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Speaker 3: The person under her had one thousand, three hundred and

472
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Speaker 3: ninety seven votes. The person under her had three hundred

473
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Speaker 3: and fifty seven votes. Right now will be on you, madam,

474
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Speaker 3: represented it with the numbers you got, but instead it

475
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: makes more sense to go after well, somebody gotta go

476
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: after No, we don't have that kind of time. You

477
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 3: gotta grab the power that's available to you. You got

478
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 3: too many numbers under you, Sai. It's to not have

479
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 3: one of these seats you could have ate the not

480
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Speaker 3: the dust off of ass The city election in Atlanta

481
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Speaker 3: County District three. Guess how many people they got? Six

482
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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy people. You mean to tell me you

483
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Speaker 3: work your ass off to get thirty thousand. I tend

484
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Speaker 3: to believe you can get seven hundred people to come

485
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Speaker 3: to the post. I believe you can do it. If

486
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Speaker 3: you got thirty thousand down show and get seven hundred.

487
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Speaker 3: What are y'all afraid of these lower tier seats. It's

488
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Speaker 3: about getting the power. The winner of Atlanta City Council

489
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Speaker 3: one with three hundred and fifty nine Byron Amos one

490
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Speaker 3: with three hundred and fifty nine votes.

491
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Speaker 1: So I'm talking about an operative thing.

492
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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about what obstacles you had, what Democrat

493
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Speaker 3: Republican they did this, They didn't choose me, this and that.

494
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: You got enough numbers, girl, they don't have to choose you.

495
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Speaker 3: You can choose your damn self. That's the point I'm making.

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Speaker 5: I'm having some issues with my phone, so I'm not

497
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Speaker 5: sure I've been kind of getting part of what you've

498
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Speaker 5: been saying.

499
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Speaker 1: But let me let me say this to you.

500
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Speaker 5: I've been targeted, tesling, I've been targeted. I got a

501
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 5: political hit this last ma'am.

502
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Speaker 1: That's ma'am, ma'am, man man, man, mam maam.

503
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Speaker 3: I need everybody righting now to go Google Commissioner Regina Hill,

504
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: who've been targeted on every damn level you can think of.

505
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: They recorded her drinking, they put it all on Facebook,

506
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: they put it all on the news. They targeted her

507
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 3: on that. They did a drive, they did they ran

508
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: down who got drugs, called in the car.

509
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: They raided her house, they took her house.

510
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: She was arrested twenty one times with a cocaine failing

511
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: girl out, don't work, and she been I got elected

512
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: three times. I'm not going forward, tammer. You have the

513
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: numbers to get one of these lower tiers under you.

514
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: You're running for the wrong seat.

515
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Speaker 1: That's it. That's all. I just want to say, all

516
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Speaker 1: of this targeted.

517
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Speaker 3: I mean, like y'all, y'all gotta stop this. We all

518
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: get targeted. Anybody put their name after they get targeted.

519
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that despite being targeted, you still got

520
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: thirty thousand people to come to the post. Eric made

521
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: y'all love talking about Eric made y'all know how Eric

522
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: May's win because he stay on the goddamn ground much

523
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: as y'all stayed sharing Eric Mays stuff. When y'all see

524
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: Eric Mays go online, he did an interview with me.

525
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna catch him online talking about nothing because

526
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: he be talking to them voters every day. Eric Mays

527
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: has surpassed everybody he's targeted. Right now they try to

528
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: put him in jail right now. You ain't the first

529
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: person been targeted. Congresswoman Correen Brown. They target her year

530
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Speaker 3: after year. She don't want to send me the Congressional

531
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Speaker 3: Black Caucus. She went and did time. You beat them

532
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: with your numbers. You have thirty thousand people that was

533
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: willing to go up and say I'm with you. You

534
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: need to take those numbers and go for a lower

535
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: tier seat. That's it, y'all keep talking about this targeted thing.

536
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: I know y'all don't like being crumped. I get it,

537
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: y'all ain't got to like them, But.

538
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: That's the most targeted person I know. He can't even

539
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: sit in the front seat when I'm with him.

540
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: I literally got a drive, y'all. It's levels to this

541
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: target shit.

542
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 3: That man issuing the FBI on behalf of Malcolm X.

543
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: Y'all ain't got to like them, but I'm telling you

544
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: what it is level. People get targeted all the time.

545
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm telling you your numbers. You have the numbers. That's

546
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 3: why Eric Mays has survived everybody that y'all saw him challenging.

547
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: You know when I met Eric Mays when I was

548
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: down there working with Bernie Sanders. You beat people by

549
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: the numbers.

550
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: You have the numbers. You're just going for a.

551
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: Seat that's two damn big. You go on the back end.

552
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: You sneak in through the back end before they even

553
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: know you coming, you're already elected. That's how we do

554
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: it in Florida. I know other people want to speak

555
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: and I get it, Shine, but I'm talking from an

556
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: operative standpoint. You guys have these spaces all the time

557
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: with these ideology conversations. I'm talking about on the ground

558
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: the field. It's a different conversation and I don't want

559
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: it distracted off of what we need to be doing.

560
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: I'm talking to these candidates on their numbers. You got

561
00:27:54,320 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 3: thirty thousand vote says, that's enough to get you elected twice.

562
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: And I know it.

563
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 5: And I'm not going anywhere testiling and just to kind

564
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 5: of give you just push it forward just a little bit.

565
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: We have house built eighty nine here.

566
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 5: Even as a candidate for the United States Senate, it

567
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 5: was House built five four to one. It's a reparations

568
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 5: bill that mirrors California now is House built eighty nine

569
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 5: right here in the Georgia legislature.

570
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: I am still on the ground. I am still pushing.

571
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: I believe going anywhere.

572
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: So when you're gonna run for us seat, when you're

573
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: gonna run for us sea, it's coming, okay.

574
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: So that's that I need. I need you running.

575
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: I need you running for her seat because I'm working

576
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 3: on the next Because and you know how I knew this.

577
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I forced you to act.

578
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: Give me the name, like, don't play games and try

579
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: to well, I don't know, girl, give me a name,

580
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: and anybody, pick anybody. You know why I said pick

581
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: anybody because I knew that once I saw you had

582
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: thirty thousand comes to the post, I knew that whoever

583
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: you pick, you was gonna beat them with your numbers.

584
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: Because I know these candidates ain't getting no thirty thousand

585
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: people to come to no pole.

586
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: So I want you all to get the moral to

587
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: the story.

588
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: The reason why I kept asking sistant one's gonna let

589
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: us slide and kept on saying, well, I ain't talking

590
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: about that. I want to talk about this, and I

591
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: don't want to give no name. All girl, give me

592
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: a name. You know how, I can say, pick a

593
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: name out of hat because I know whoever she picked,

594
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: she was gonna beat their numbers by double, because I

595
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: know what these numbers look like, and I know that

596
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: it's impressive when you get twenty damn to thirty thousand

597
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: people to go at the posts. It may not be

598
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: impressive when you're looking at three million people, but it's

599
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: damn sure impressive with this. And I bet Sen of

600
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: the War not gonna take a meeting with her. You

601
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: got to because she's his representative and he can't move

602
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: nothing without her. I'm telling y'all, y'all going for two

603
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: big positions instead of getting the power and maneuver in

604
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: a different way. Oh no, But I got to go

605
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: for the US city because that's gonna be the federal No,

606
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: go in on this level, push it on that level,

607
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: and then eventually build up and go to that. Or

608
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: if nothing else, you can make that congressman listen to

609
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: you because you got a title. All politics is local

610
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: and they care about your title, y'all can say all

611
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: day long.

612
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: Don't nobody carey about y'all title? Yes they do.

613
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: They don't give a shit about people's imaginary name on Twitter.

614
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: They fear the ones that's willing to get dotsed. That's

615
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: the one they fear, because they say, damn, she ain't

616
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: willing to lose. She she willing to risk at all.

617
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: They fear the ones that don't give a shit about

618
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: getting set up. I've been targeted, We all targeted. Anybody

619
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: putting their real name out of targeted on some damn level.

620
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: That's the only ones to fear. Why would I fear

621
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: somebody that's hiding in the bush. That's why I laugh

622
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: when y'all be sitting them talking about how these ops

623
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: be running down these running y'all running down for what? Oh,

624
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: because they know once we get to talking, we go no,

625
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: come on, man, this is what they fear. They feared

626
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: me telling Tim, They feared me telling you to take

627
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: that thirty thousand, to go take this girl's seat. That's

628
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: what they fear, because ain't nobody telling you that. Everybody

629
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: telling you just keep on going and keep on pushing

630
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: and keep on getting it, y'all ain't get They feared

631
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: me saying, no, Nan, you're doing it the wrong way.

632
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: Go get the pack.

633
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay on your am and keep on asking

634
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: you y'all at four one five, one four, or well

635
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: we're getting it together since Tella. When y'all get toge,

636
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: y'all say, y'all getting get last money, said getting them

637
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: one f for that. That's what they fear me, steady asking, oh, okay,

638
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: before we get into the scholarship, y'all got that nonprofit?

639
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: That's what they fear.

640
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: They fear me telling myself sounds good myself, but I

641
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: think you need to go for State Center and stay repped. Well,

642
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: she hates, she wants me to give up. No, it ain't.

643
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm telling you where the closest. I'm telling you how

644
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: to get there, to get the power because right now

645
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: they gonna care. They don't care about you going viral

646
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: with a bullhorn.

647
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: They just don't.

648
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: Yes, they talk about reparations more. Yes, people know your name.

649
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: But would y'all the ones say win got time? Y'all

650
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: want to spend another ten fifteen years or do you

651
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: want to go for the seat that you can get

652
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: and actually make some noise? You got too many votes

653
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: to be sitting up here still playing games with Democrats

654
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: and republic for what where you can go get it

655
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: on the house side. It's all I'm saying, y'all, what's

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