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Speaker 3: Jethro Jenkins aka.

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Speaker 4: John what's that Bubba's Dragonfly?

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Speaker 1: Jones aka Tyler everybody of a good and I was

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Speaker 1: working last night, guys, I didn't catch the game. How

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Speaker 1: much did Duke win?

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Speaker 4: By four? Na? Duke loss? The coach k Era is over.

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Speaker 5: It's a wrap. You can take your old ass off

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Speaker 5: into that sunset. You will not be missed. Bro Let

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Speaker 5: me get the crib you feel me? Say Louis on.

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Speaker 1: Dick Vetto was just tweeting about he's the greatest coach

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Speaker 1: of all time? Are you telling me that his forty

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Speaker 1: two year tenure of the greatest coach of all time

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Speaker 1: was ended by Hubert?

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Speaker 4: Motherfucking Hubert first year.

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Speaker 5: Hubert first year hubd got his ass up out of

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Speaker 5: this stit them home with an l.

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Speaker 2: I saw the stat that he lost his first game

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Speaker 2: in North Carolina, lost his last game North Carolina, lost

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Speaker 2: his and then lost his last with regular season game

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Speaker 2: in North Carolina as well.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, and the all and that win for Carolina

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Speaker 5: puts Duke and Carolina.

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Speaker 4: During the Coach k era at an even.

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Speaker 5: Fifty to fifty split. Are you shitting fucking crazy? That's crazy, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean? And and the thing is even and during

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Speaker 5: the Coach k Era, I mean, they're even tied for

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Speaker 5: for you know, titles at the moment. Coach k had

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Speaker 5: five since he came on board in nineteen eighty. Carolina

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Speaker 5: has five since nineteen eighty. Carolina could break that tie

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Speaker 5: break on Monday, We'll see. That's gonna be fucking huge

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Speaker 5: right there.

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Speaker 1: It was such an emotional night that you tweeted something.

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Speaker 4: Ty.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember how many tweets you have, but there's

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Speaker 4: There's there's figure damn there half a million of them.

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Speaker 1: You've never in your life tweeted. I don't even want

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Speaker 5: I've never seen you say anything. I'm getting old. Man,

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Speaker 5: I'm getting old. That game was too stressful. It was

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Speaker 5: I was so overwhelmingly relieved, I didn't I couldn't feel

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Speaker 2: If you feel it, you found a way to get

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Speaker 2: am on human And it all goes back to that

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Speaker 5: That motherfucker put so many h's in white and white

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Speaker 1: Like god damn, um, that's gotta be great, though, Coach

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Speaker 2: Really, I told y'all, Bro, I mean, and well you did.

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Speaker 1: I really truly. I was joking in the group chat

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think, like I said, eighteen nineteen year olds,

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Speaker 4: And I mean they were. They were up like they gotta.

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Speaker 4: Seeing him do that, you know, saying the coach K

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Speaker 1: A true delight.

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Speaker 1: In d So, I was covering an NCAA volleyball match.

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Speaker 1: Long Beach State is number two. They're hosting Hawaii. That's

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Speaker 4: When he was talking about it, that.

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Speaker 2: White I'm a proud of mine, my white wife. I

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Speaker 4: You feel me. I thought the road was gonna be reverse,

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Speaker 2: I'm not I wouldn't say like people were, like a

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Speaker 4: You were so.

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Speaker 1: Happy that someone suggested you weren't a real.

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Speaker 2: Dude, right right right, I'm like, let me show you

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Speaker 2: all the motherfuckers that. You know what I'm saying, Bro,

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Cool, I'm not one of

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. Like I told you, bro,

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Speaker 4: like I fucked with Duke. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But I never fuck with people to fuck with Duke.

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Speaker 4: I didn't fuck with me's you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But Nah, for real, It's just I'm just happy. It's

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Speaker 2: cool to see somebody from the crib. You know what

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Speaker 4: It's cool to see kaylor Love do his thing.

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Speaker 2: I was just I was rooting for him and to

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: That boy dog Tatum was I think what I saw

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Speaker 4: And I remember watching them at CBC. You know what

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Speaker 2: It seemed to do the same thing on this level,

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Speaker 2: you know, on this stage was beautiful to watch.

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Speaker 1: Nike did set Coach K up, though. Did you see

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Speaker 1: the tweet that sent you the LOP?

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Speaker 4: I saw that ship.

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Speaker 1: They tweeted what is your favorite Coach K moment? And

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Speaker 1: then they were doing replies like you can't spell championship

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Speaker 4: But it was just like worst campaign ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like fifteen thousand people, We're just like

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Speaker 4: Everyone was like, right now, see you don't take this

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Speaker 5: He had the weakest going away fucking campaign and them

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Speaker 5: little weak ass Nike shirts, but they just put the

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Speaker 5: no one's feed this comic? Worst fucking act. Honestly, didn't

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Speaker 2: I truly didn't understand until I got on Twitter, honestly,

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Speaker 2: like if It wasn't if Duke weren't playing, I would

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Speaker 2: Like I remember telling my cousins like in Charlotte that

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Speaker 4: It was disappointed, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But they wasn't really trip and tripping because they you

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Speaker 2: like somebody at Twitter like you a fuck nigga, you

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Speaker 1: Aged boy in Massachusetts, right right for sure? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: who are Duke fans just because they are Lakers, Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: that were winning championships when they were eleven years old, right,

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Speaker 1: none of I mean, it was not like, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's not a great tradition in Long Beach. It's not

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Speaker 1: see la fan, you know whatever, you root it for Duke,

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Speaker 4: It was like, bro, I'm telling you this ship serious

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Speaker 1: He told me that Vinnie was a hater right now

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Speaker 1: I'm a little jealous of having sports hate like that.

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Speaker 2: Bro, y'all, y'all living good. Bro y'all got a beach

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Speaker 4: No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's because it's Auburn. But it's dispersed over everything here,

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Speaker 2: And Alabama somebody shot her own family member because they

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Speaker 1: Because they weren't sad enough.

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Speaker 4: They weren't the family poison trees, right, rivalry?

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Speaker 2: I think it was an Auburn, Alabama person poison the

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Speaker 2: It was like, you're right, hey, hey, in any form,

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Speaker 1: I think sports is the best outlet for it. Of

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Speaker 4: There's no good outlet for hate, Mike, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, because dude, these I mean these rivalies turned

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Speaker 4: Like even with this Duke North Carolina one, Like I

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Speaker 1: They're killing trees behind it. There should not be anything

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Speaker 4: Trees are fucking personal. And then the wild about it

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Speaker 5: Out because this motherfucker called the Paul finnbaumb Show and

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Speaker 1: That was me. It was some psycho ship, the Zodiac

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Speaker 4: The fact that y'all ignored did I said a human

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Speaker 2: The fact that you're ignored that I said a human

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Speaker 1: That's like my least favorite thing that happens in movies

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Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, we're stupid species Broight. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: that maybe that's a good transition into uh, talking about

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Speaker 1: we don't usually engage with the alpha male podcast market,

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Speaker 1: but this ship was just too stupid for me. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: and we don't need to keep talking about that shit.

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Speaker 1: But someone brought up that, you know, women don't like

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Speaker 1: being with square guys. Let me tell you false, as

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Speaker 1: If you're funny and you are normal and you treat

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Speaker 1: And I don't understand this, like oh like and by

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Speaker 1: and happy. Like I don't know who told the dudes

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Speaker 1: I told my wife when we were eighteen and we

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Speaker 1: and we will always have enough. And I promise you

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Speaker 1: I'll never do anything to make you feel bad or stupid,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: And that's good.

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Speaker 1: That is a solid, foundation level thing to build a

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Speaker 4: Get more solid than that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's, you know, my whole thing about the

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Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, you're not cool either, like like and.

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Speaker 5: That's no shots to Channing Crowder because it's only like

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Speaker 5: it's not a lot of cool PEEPI it's like fucking

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Speaker 5: Denzel and like Jack niggleson a snooping that's like it dog,

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Speaker 4: So I'm not a cool motherfucker.

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Speaker 5: I never claim to be cool, and I have done

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Speaker 5: quite alright with the ladies, my damn self, my whole

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Speaker 5: about like I said, it's being cool is rare as fuck,

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Speaker 5: because you can't try to be cool. You have to

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Speaker 5: Most people try to be cool, and nothing is less

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Speaker 4: Dog.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, it's not a lot of cool motherfuckers.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know why people hang their hat on

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Speaker 2: I just think the idea of cool to men is

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Speaker 2: feel what I'm saying, Like, y'all aren't square niggas. You

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Speaker 2: feel me, y'all aren't lanes. A square is a fucking lane,

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Speaker 2: feel me, And I don't think what she was going

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Speaker 2: through with future was what she wanted. Like who wants

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Speaker 2: to go through that type of ship? She has a

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Speaker 2: enjoys that. But I just think, like the the idea

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Speaker 2: of cool to what as far as how men perceive

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Speaker 2: and if they call to women that they cool to me,

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Speaker 2: I'm keeping a stack to you with you, bro, I

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Speaker 2: don't give a funk with y'all to take. I remember,

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Speaker 2: I remember, I remember, I remember jab I remember Jabar

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Speaker 2: said he took a break from Twitter. That's my homi

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Speaker 1: I don't under I just don't understand that. Like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate everyone listening to podcast what the three of

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Speaker 1: us they love the podcast, that's like great, that's the

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Speaker 1: only fem that's the only feedback we need for the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I don't need a twenty three year old who's you know,

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Speaker 1: going to the gym so he can fucking like slap

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Speaker 4: In my life. You know, it's not a core demo

438
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Speaker 4: at all.

439
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 2: All these niggas talking about like bodies and all that

440
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,120
Speaker 2: type of shit.

441
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 4: Bro, that shiit. Bro. You see how the women talk

442
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,640
Speaker 4: about you. You look stupid. You feel me? That's not cool. Gee,

443
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 4: that's my young and that's why I fuck with him.

444
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 4: But the women ain't fucking with you. You look dumb, Bro,

445
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:30,920
Speaker 4: You look dumb.

446
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 2: Everybody talking bad about you online because you look silly

447
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 2: talking about this childish as shit.

448
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,560
Speaker 4: What what what men think is cool in general just

449
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,400
Speaker 4: isn't cool. Gee?

450
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 2: You feel me, and so that that shit is toxic. Gee,

451
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 2: and you think future is cool? Well, I mean, hey,

452
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,760
Speaker 2: a square nigga took his check.

453
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 4: What does that look like? Then? You feel me? You

454
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 4: feel me? Hey, I don't know, it's just middle school

455
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 4: shit that I thought we all outgrew me.

456
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 5: Oh, Like you know, back when you were trying to

457
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,399
Speaker 5: prove your manhood, you know, showing any type of emotion

458
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 5: wasn't good, So you would, you know, try to show

459
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 5: how hard you are on the ladies and all that

460
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 5: to try to press your homies. And it's motherfuckers who

461
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 5: are thirty eight years old, still doing that?

462
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,919
Speaker 4: So weird, bro, I.

463
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 2: Don't even ask I haven't asked how many bodies a

464
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 2: woman has, so that's so weird.

465
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't.

466
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 4: I don't talk about that.

467
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 1: I haven't had that.

468
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,120
Speaker 2: I haven't even thought to ask that question in over

469
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 2: a decade. It was like it was I was in

470
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 2: my twenties when I was wondering how many people.

471
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck. That ain't nothing to do

472
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 4: with me.

473
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 1: The fuck?

474
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? What I mean, I hope

475
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 4: you enjoyed yourself. I give a fuck about they want?

476
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 4: They want? Motherfuckers. You said, what was that? Was that saying?

477
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 4: Here now and we're happy together? That's all. That's all

478
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 4: I give a fuck about. What did you did over there?

479
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 4: That ain't got nothing to do with me?

480
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 1: Gee?

481
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 4: I hope you have fun, you feel me? I hope

482
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 4: you did. You know what I mean?

483
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: So, Yeah, it's just I just think that's so ridiculous

484
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 2: that care about these silly ass things and niggas just

485
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 2: saying like he is square. Cool, he may be a

486
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: square though, but they happy.

487
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 4: I just don't. I just don't be caring so about

488
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 4: shit like that.

489
00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that something happened. You guys have

490
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: talked about this about appreciating older R and B music

491
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 1: when it was like when it was still cool to

492
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: be in love with women.

493
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it was going crazy all day. They was

494
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 2: crying because she ran out to CVS. You know what

495
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm saying. She just gets some day. Quill my nigga too,

496
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 2: because she gonna be back. Bro, don't need for all that,

497
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 2: you feel what I mean?

498
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: But that but so like all of those expressions are

499
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: fundamentally dishonest, right, the I don't care, like I'm sure

500
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: a future I'm sure that anyone who's I'm not really

501
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 1: not trying to make her about them. I'm sure anyone

502
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: who's expressed musically that he absolutely doesn't care about the

503
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: mother of their children, whatever, I'm sure that's bullshit too, right,

504
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: But which bullshit would you rather sell? I would rather

505
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: sell the bullshit of I am incomplete without this other person. Like, yeah,

506
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: but it's everything is it feels like culturally everything shifted

507
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: to Like I always use the Millhouse quote from The Simpsons,

508
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: the e you kissed the girl? It's so gay, right,

509
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: I just I don't get it, man, I genuinely don't

510
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: get it. And I do feel like people might not

511
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 1: like me saying this about the podcast. They might listen

512
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: to whatever. But that's all wrapped up and all that

513
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: in cel, you know, crazy bullshit school shooter, that's all

514
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: wrapped up in that ship. Man, the fucked up idea.

515
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: We have a manhood and what you're supposed to be

516
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: if you have a dick, like, who gives a fuck?

517
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 4: Bro? Just be yourself man, That'll get you way further. Dog,

518
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 4: just fuck with you, you know what I mean?

519
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: And you see he and he talking about we talking

520
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 2: about rus russ Ain't thinking about that?

521
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 4: Man, You feel me like, oh gee, just.

522
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: Be yourself man, all this square, don't worry about people, man,

523
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: mind your business. Crazy though, it's just weird seeing adults

524
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: talk like that. That's what's wild to me. Like, I'm

525
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: not really right.

526
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: You've heard those conversation. You heard those conversations at lunch

527
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: in seventh grade.

528
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: I mean when I hit the group chat, I'm like,

529
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 2: what is niggas when they were talking about bodies? When

530
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 2: is niggas going it's tired of talking about this? How

531
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: many podcasts do you got to talk about bodies? And

532
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 2: I can't fuck with you. Let mean, come on, see,

533
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: we want everybody to be a verge and also be

534
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: a porn stars.

535
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: Is this is too serious of an answer to that question.

536
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: But the real answer to that question is when the

537
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: whole inside of their fucking chest that they are trying

538
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: to fill with something is full, that's when they'll stop

539
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: giving it a shit about that stuff, because that's all

540
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 1: that's all it is is I didn't get enough love

541
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: from someone, or I don't know how to love myself

542
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: or whatever, and so I have to just projectile vomit

543
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: that hatred and that insecurity onto everything around me. And

544
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: it's fucking sad because you could spot that shit in

545
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: seventh grade, bro, and people chose to just every time

546
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: it's questions, wrap themselves a little tighter in that fucking blanket,

547
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, rather than like, I just

548
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: can't feel insecure, I can't let myself feel like I

549
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: might be in like you just have to keep putting

550
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: more and more of an eye yourself, and the older

551
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: you get, imagine a sixty five talking about that shit

552
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: like I'm lonely as fucking the elder care center. But

553
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to sit with her because she sat

554
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: with Charleston yesterday.

555
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 4: What're you talking about, bro, Charleston? Man, Man, it's fear, bro,

556
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 4: it's fear. It's fear. Gee. People are scared of getting

557
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 4: hurt too.

558
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: It's a lot of animosity from people who have had,

559
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 5: you know, relationships that have gone which way or whatever.

560
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 4: You can tell that too, Bro, that's the hardest shit.

561
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: I actually will sit a high school student down and

562
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: talk to them as though I were a relative of theirs.

563
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: If I see them posting some this bitch broke my heart,

564
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm never trusting again. I will actually sit a child

565
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: down and talk to them, like, you need to understand

566
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: you are one step into a journey you don't want

567
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: to go on for the rest of your life. Like

568
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: be heartbroken. That's part of this, Okay, cry cry, move on,

569
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: learn from the you got your movis all over your

570
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: fucking hit in the shower. That's part of it, bro.

571
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: But like that path is not any plate. Like just

572
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: take a deep breath and look at the people who

573
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: are at the end of that road and ask yourself,

574
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: is that where I want to spend the rest of

575
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: my life? Or do I want to be vulnerable and hurt? Sometimes?

576
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: But still be myself, like you said, and not just

577
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: be trying to sell Channing's version of masculinity, like like.

578
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 5: Not to get on some doctor Fiel shit, but it's

579
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 5: some real shit, you know, the whole adage that you know,

580
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 5: it's not your fault if someone hurts you, but you

581
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 5: do owe it to yourself to be responsible for your healing,

582
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So like, like, you know,

583
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 5: you just can't keep pointing the finger and and and

584
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 5: and you know, lashing out like this if you're hurt.

585
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 5: If you're hurt, bro, go through that shit, feel that

586
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 5: shit and take the responsibility, you know, take the onus

587
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 5: on yourself to you know, work yourself through that shit

588
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 5: and come out a better person of it. Because this

589
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 5: bullshit that y'all and is not being a better man.

590
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 5: You're not coming out of this heartbreak or whatever a

591
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 5: better man. You coming out of the shit a fucking insult.

592
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: And it's not And it's not so black and white,

593
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's not like she she

594
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: did me wrong. Sometimes sh it just don't work, gee,

595
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: And that's okay. It's okay for it.

596
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: Not to work, you know what I mean.

597
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: You'll be better for it, You'll learn from it, you

598
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: move on. You know, that's life in general. I know

599
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: that shit hurts, gee, but you gotta you gotta, you

600
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: gotta deal with that. It's part of it.

601
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 4: Love ain't for the week. G flat out. There's life,

602
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 4: you know.

603
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the And there's so much stuff that

604
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: in our society because we're trying to protect ourselves from

605
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: that fundamental fact. But like that's just that is what

606
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: it is. Like. You know, some of this shit's gonna

607
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: be hard. But the biggest joke of it of all

608
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: to me, and this is the last thing I have

609
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: to say about it, is you're having these conversations about

610
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: being an alpha man or about being you know, on

611
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: a podcast. This is the dorkiest ship I do. I mean,

612
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm the strangest dude ever.

613
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 3: Bro.

614
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't drink, I don't smoke. I hang out with

615
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: people drink and smoke all time, whatever, whatever. I'm the

616
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: lamest dude ever. I'm married to my high school sweetheart

617
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: in my hometown two miles from I grew up happy

618
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: as fuck and wake up so when I go to bed,

619
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: and I am telling you, this podcast is the dorkiest

620
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: thing I do with my lights because it's a podcast.

621
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, you call yourself alpha male when you have a podcast, Like, Bro,

622
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 5: you were on Amazon looking at reviews for microphones.

623
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 4: You're not a fucking alpha man.

624
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: You're trying to figure out how to keep your mic

625
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: stand from falling down.

626
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: Bro, you know what I mean?

627
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Like you're trying to figure out your levels and your

628
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: eq's talking about some fucking King of the Jungle shit. Bro, Really,

629
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: task cam is recording.

630
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: Let me just likes right quick.

631
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: Let me make sure that the task cans fully charged

632
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: so I can talk about my dick, you know. Anyway? Okay,

633
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: The last last thing is there was a stray thrown

634
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: out as part of this conversation that I hadn't.

635
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 4: Want to say this to.

636
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: I think them people that talk about this shit, they

637
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: don't they don't really believe this shit they'd be saying off.

638
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 2: I honestly don't think they do, bro, Bro, because they

639
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: say this shit online and then you see how they

640
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: are with they women. G I'm like, Bro, come on, man,

641
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,239
Speaker 2: I think that I think I don't think even think

642
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 2: they truly believe that shit that's that's coming out.

643
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: They just think that's the cool ship to say, Bro,

644
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 5: you feel bro, the dude channing crowd or just went

645
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 5: viral like two days ago. We're talking about that about

646
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 5: how him and his lady do role play as cats.

647
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: Like he was out here me out and purring and

648
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: ship you out here being a meow mixed face ass motherfucker.

649
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: You call it those niggas. These niggas is rappers. Bro,

650
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: They're out here lying and y'all are living a different life. Bro.

651
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm telling you from firsthand visual experience.

652
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: We all listen to Doggy Star growing up, and I

653
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: have seen Calvin Brotis holding his wife's hand at functions.

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Speaker 5: Come on, see his high school sweetheart who he started,

655
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 5: who he created a beautiful family with.

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Speaker 4: Right and good for him?

657
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Speaker 1: You know, yes, that's the foot, Like, don't confuse, it's

658
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: just the sad thing is it used to be you're

659
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: selling that image with rap, and now you're selling it

660
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Speaker 1: with podcast.

661
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: Like I think the gold is being a square if

662
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Speaker 2: I'm keeping it a stack, find somebody to turn you

663
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Speaker 2: to a square ass nigger, Bro, find somebody that got

664
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Speaker 2: you out hear me out mixing in their motherfucking face.

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00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: You feel me? Hey, good for him, but he ain't

666
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: got to get on here. A lot of the kids

667
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Speaker 4: dog you know what I mean.

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00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: That's the problem, and that's the problem. It's the same

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00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: with the Fox newshit and everyone else. The people listening

670
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: to this shit don't know it's a work. They think

671
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: that's really an expression and something they should be listening

672
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: to that's coming from someone's heart. And because they're hurting

673
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: at different moments, it feels like comfort, not poison. That's

674
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: what pisses me off about it, you know what I mean,

675
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: Because I don't think. I think that rap music was

676
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: always dangerous and fun enough that I don't know anyone

677
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who are happily married

678
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: who listened to Doggy Style growing up. None of us

679
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: are listen to Doggy Style like this is the fucking Bible,

680
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: Like no, I'll live my life by these rules. Like

681
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: that was a you know, it was fun. The podcast stuff,

682
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: it sounds like someone giving you advice. Doggy Style did

683
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: not sound like someone giving you, at least to me.

684
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: You know, Noop Dog wasn't my friend. You know what

685
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

686
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: People listen to podcasts think it's the homies. You feel

687
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: what I'm saying Snoop Dogg wasn't perform. He was entertainment

688
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: to me, you know what I'm saying. So, but yeah, gee,

689
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: these people ain't moving in that same way.

690
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Speaker 4: Bro. You know so.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point. It's all bullshit, broll it. We

692
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: do have to talk about the goofball though, the one

693
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: but Tyler Tyler clipped it out. The funniest part of

694
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: that clip was talking about Russell Wilson's first wife when

695
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 1: he got drafted. That photo looks like something from the office,

696
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: like a stock image of that kind of a person.

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Speaker 4: I'd say, get out. I'd say, it looks like a

698
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 4: like a horror film. To me.

699
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: That looks like a screenshot from a horror film to me.

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00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: Bro were talking about Russell Russell Wilson, the woman that

701
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: was with Russell Wilson when he got drafted. It just

702
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: described the picture Tyler. For those who not I feel

703
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: like everyone's seen this clip, but for those who have not.

704
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 5: There there is a woman who was Russell Wilson's girl

705
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 5: from at the time when he got drafted, and they're

706
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Speaker 5: sitting mestage and then she's holding a coffee mug and

707
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 5: a little dashhound, little Wiener dog. And she is yelling

708
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 5: when he gets drafted, and her jaw extended in ways

709
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Speaker 5: I have never seen a human mask. She looked like

710
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: a motherfucking cobra swallowing an egg. With how much jaw

711
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 5: we got in that picture. Bro, I ain't never seen

712
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 5: no shit like that. And the funny about this clip

713
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 5: is is Ryan Clark was like, was like.

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Speaker 1: She ever deserved that?

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Speaker 4: Man.

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00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 5: We saw a woman Rust was with before her with

717
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 5: that big old mouth. Some of that big old mouth,

718
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 5: Rust deserved better than that. Just clapped her up for

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Speaker 5: no fucking reason. That was the funniest part of this ship.

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Speaker 1: Jackal for all of us, and Channing too, is like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about Goofball?

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Speaker 4: Wait?

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Speaker 1: Wait was she talking about her or him talking about her?

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Speaker 1: He said, you want to be with Goofball's husband.

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Speaker 4: Everybody got hit with a straight.

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Speaker 1: Right, let's talk a little NB NBA hoops. The honeymoon

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00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: is over. We were wondering how long it would last.

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00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: The question is always because someone keep James Harden in

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Speaker 1: honeymoon mode through a playoffs. That is always the goal.

754
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: And it would appear that it has not happened in Philly,

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00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: Doc rivers, people are quote not feeling him. What do

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Speaker 1: you think, Tyler?

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00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: It's over?

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00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: Honeymoon's over already? Was it? It was two months?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 5: Basically, you know there was a Doc gave a quote

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Speaker 5: about how you know, he really didn't blame the lack

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Speaker 5: of bench scoring on an l they took. He blamed

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Speaker 5: hard and stinking it up. And I'm like, dude, like

764
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 5: like you know, this is this is what Doc does.

765
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 5: Obviously he calls motherfuckers out publicly.

766
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: We saw with Ben Simmons.

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00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 5: But it's like, bro, not only is that like a

768
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 5: shitty thing for a coach, That's not a smart thing

769
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: for Doc to doing this situation, Not when fucking Harden

770
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 5: is gonna be a free agent next summer. And if

771
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 5: free Harden, if if Harden goes to that front office

772
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 5: and says, yo, either me or Doc gotta go. You

773
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Well, who you think the front

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00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 5: office is siding with.

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00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: Well, let's just say, not only is Harden a free agent,

776
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: but your boss is his biggest fan on planet Earth,

777
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: more than his mom. Like right, They're like, no one

778
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: on Earth sees more value in James Harden than Darryl Morey.

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00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 4: Bro.

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00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I legit would be surprised if Doc is back

781
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 5: next season because we all know if fucking playoff collapse

782
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: is coming, we all know that he's They're gonna looking

783
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 5: horrible when they get the boot this postseason. So so yeah,

784
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 5: you can set your fucking watch of that. So yeah,

785
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 5: I'll be shocked if Doc comes.

786
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: Back next season for real, John, any thoughts on James Harden.

787
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: We almost made it. The playoffs are so close, they

788
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: almost made it.

789
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: Almost, Like I, like Tyler said, I think it's just

790
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: ridiculous what like what Doc is doing. And also it

791
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: makes me feel like we blame Ben this whole time.

792
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: Doc's doing the same thing to fucking Hardy. Did the

793
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: Ben This shit don't work?

794
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 4: Gee, you feel me? You know what I mean?

795
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 2: Throwing motherfuckers under the bus like that, It makes no sense.

796
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: So you know how I felt about that when it happened,

797
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: and we're seeing him do it again, so get.

798
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: Him the fuck out of there.

799
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: Did he do the public call out thing when he

800
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: was coaching the Celtics when they had the Big Three?

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00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: I know he couldn't have done that to KG. I

802
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: just can't imagine KG being cool. I can't imagine him

803
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: going to the locker room after Daddy cage. He's just

804
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: sitting down and Ben shit being sweet. I don't see

805
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: that happening.

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00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I just you feel like, given what

807
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: the narrative has been and what the performance of his

808
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: teams has been, you feel like that would have like

809
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: occurred to him, you know what I mean? Like, Hey,

810
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: it's the difference between being Phil Jackson calling out refs

811
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: and just continuously going after all star level talent on

812
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: your team through the media, like people don't feel players

813
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: don't love the media. Bro, you know what I mean?

814
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: That is not the way you want to deliver the

815
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: telegram in twenty twenty two.

816
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you saw how Ben took it, and you

817
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: want to do the same thing the Harden. You think

818
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: Hard is gonna take any better? Like that just makes

819
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: no sense. Gee, come on, I don't get it, man,

820
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: I don't get it. You saw what happened with Ben,

821
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: that fucking debacle. Regardless of how Ben played, it started

822
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: with him saying that shit, Bro, you know what I'm saying.

823
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: That was the like, oh wow, like this is not

824
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: gonna work. The fucking coach says he doesn't know if

825
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: he can win with you, you know what I mean?

826
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: And now like it's not as well, it's really was hardened,

827
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: Like what the fuck? How does that make sense? That's

828
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: locker room talk. G get in his face in the

829
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: locker room, you know what I mean. You don't say

830
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: that in public. That doesn't benefit. This is not nineteen

831
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 2: ninety six, bro, all right, you know what I'm saying.

832
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: This is a player empowerment era. They will get your

833
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: ass to fuck up out of there, and this player,

834
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: with that motherfucker in the front office, will definitely get your.

835
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: Ass the fuck up out of there.

836
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: All right?

837
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 4: The next locks you doc but not really.

838
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, you know it is what it is. Kevin

839
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: Duran score fifty five and a loss for the Nets.

840
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: I continue to be just beyond fucking excited for the

841
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: East playoffs. But what I wanted to talk about what

842
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 1: KD was our good friend Logan Murdoch had a great

843
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: profile on him.

844
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 4: What a fucking article, bro, great article.

845
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: Definitely read it, all three of us retweeted, but definitely

846
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: go read that if you haven't seen it already. Logan

847
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: is really fucking just fasted, Bro.

848
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 4: He's so good and so many things. Fourteen years old, Bro, I.

849
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: Know makes me disgust me every time we talked to him, the.

850
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: Way he I think this is the I honestly feel

851
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: like this was the most human that Katie seemed in

852
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: an article.

853
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

854
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 2: I look at him and he's like just a basketball player,

855
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: basketball player. Katie showed more of him in this article,

856
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: you know, like And I always said like him and

857
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: Kyrie are two the most relatable because of like how

858
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: they deal with the media, but I didn't really understand

859
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: their personalities. I felt like I actually like understood Katie's

860
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: personality and how he operates a way. And I've read

861
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: so many Katie articles over what is fifteen years in

862
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: the league, and this was the one where I was like, oh,

863
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 2: things make sense now. Even Kyrie irving to would agree,

864
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: and their friendship it makes sense.

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00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 4: Good. I mean, so yo, Logan bro special special dude.

866
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 4: That was it was fire.

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00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: He's been earning that story since, you know, for a

868
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: long time for sure, Like I think that's that's part

869
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: of it. But KD introduced what I think is a

870
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: much better and more interesting hoop combo. I'm not We're

871
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: not going to go through a pickup, but I just

872
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: love this. He said it was cool being on the

873
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: NBA seventy five lists, and he knows at this point.

874
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: You know, he got a couple of shots off at Nick, right,

875
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: but I think he knows at this point forty years

876
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: from now, I don't think we're going to be looking

877
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: back at a KD era of the NBA. I think

878
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: we feel we agree. Incredible player and the way he

879
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: said it was it's cool to be in the top

880
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: seventy five. But what I feel like is, in the

881
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: history of the NBA, if you had Lebron James and

882
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan picked teams to play five on five, I'd

883
00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: be on the team.

884
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 4: I have no doubt.

885
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: Yes, he's totally right, no doubt.

886
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 4: Right, we all agree with that.

887
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: But also, what a this such a better conversation around basketball?

888
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 4: Then?

889
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: Is KD better than Lebron? Is KD choking? Because the

890
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: next Lost Country scored fifty five. I just love that,

891
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: and I would love for him to be a part

892
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: of pivoting the conversation to something that's more collaborative and

893
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: interesting like that than just one to one comparisons all

894
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: the time with nothing else thrown in for bright, you

895
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

896
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure that that five on five pickup

897
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 5: game is a way more fun hypothetical. I've always said,

898
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 5: and that hypothetical, Shack is my first pick, especially if

899
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 5: it's called your own fouls.

900
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: If it's called your own fouls, bro, what are you

901
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: gonna do with that?

902
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 5: Shack is powering through them little weak ass hacks and

903
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 5: dunkn you do the motherfucking concrete. If it's called your

904
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 5: own foules in a pickup game, Shack will be my

905
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 5: first pick, bro.

906
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: I've tilely did that.

907
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: Did that article make you understand? Like remember when you

908
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: say cause you a casual? Does that that article make

909
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 2: you think about that situation a little different? I'm wonder

910
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: like I just I just felt like he really thinks

911
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: he's normal. Katie really thinks he's normal, you know what

912
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: I mean?

913
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: I mean?

914
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: And and and I think like he I don't think

915
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: he was really trying to come at you on something.

916
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: I mean, that was the hell of a love he

917
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: threw to get dunk though, But and A responds with beautiful,

918
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. After the ship, kat and

919
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: I we did a little more banter. It was all

920
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: fucking jokes. It was taking any type of way.

921
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 4: I know you did.

922
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: I know I know that, I know you didn't at all.

923
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: But it's just like I'm thinking, like Katie really doesn't understand.

924
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he understands how people, you know

925
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, why people look at him that way,

926
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: and he knows that he's not normal in the sense

927
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: that like he walks down that walks down the street,

928
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, that's fucking Kevin Durant, and he

929
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: gets that. But to him, he's just normal, and I

930
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: think that's really endearing. I think very few people that

931
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: are as good as he is at anything in this

932
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 2: planet would just be comfortable with being normal or thinking

933
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: himself as just normal, you know what I mean. And

934
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: that's all he wants, Like he wants to the respect

935
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: from players and respect from like from the game, not

936
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: just you know, not just maybe fans or like whatever

937
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: he wants to He wants, you know, to him the

938
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: game matters. She wants to be respected within that, but

939
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: outside of that, he just wants to be a dude,

940
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And the fact that he

941
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: started that podcast with Banksy banks Banski is that how

942
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: you I think? I think that as in the k

943
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: and Switch, But yeah, I started that podcast because he

944
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: just you know, he said, what with Eddie Eddie Gonzalez?

945
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: Yeah you feel me? Yes, and started and started with him.

946
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 4: You know, there we go. That's so much easier. Thank you, Mike.

947
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: You you were rather in life, you know, in this

948
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: in this moment, like she's like, John, just make it

949
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: easier on yourself. You're trying, you know, but you're always

950
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 2: choosing a hard route. But now for real, like starting

951
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 2: that podcast and the way he got to doing that

952
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: was just from him seeing himself as a regular human.

953
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 2: I think that's so endearing. But right there won't be

954
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 2: a KD era, you know what I mean. But we

955
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: can't deny that KDI is one of the best motherfuckers

956
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: ever touch a basketball.

957
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 4: And that's that.

958
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, sure, Katy is a unique dude because you know,

959
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 5: he's one of the It's like he's on some ship

960
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 5: like I'm one of the baddest motherfuckers of all time.

961
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 5: If you say I'm not your lying to yourself, I

962
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 5: don't give a fuck about anything after that, you know.

963
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 4: What I mean?

964
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 5: Like, like, usually guys who think that highly of themselves

965
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 5: want the praise and want all the fucking accolades heaped

966
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: on him.

967
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: And KD is not that dude, he he KD.

968
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: Like, like I pointed out before, KD has never even

969
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 5: on his burner accounts, he has never clapped back as

970
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: someone who said he wasn't nice because he knows that's

971
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 5: fucking ludicrous.

972
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 4: He knows you're being ridiculous. There's no need to even

973
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 4: entertain that ship.

974
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 5: Where KD responds is when people talk about where he stands,

975
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 5: you know, legacy wide and and and the biggest scheme

976
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 5: of things with against the other immortals, like like, did

977
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 5: that move to Golden State? Does that add some yeah

978
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 5: butts to your legacy? Does the fact that we never

979
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: had a an error where you were unanimously the best

980
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 5: player in the league by agreed by damn near everyone,

981
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 5: does that affect your lexcy? Like that's when KD harps

982
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 5: him because he's not competing with us. He's competing with

983
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 5: the fucking with the MJ's and the Kareems and the magic.

984
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 5: That's what he That's how he at it, and that's

985
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 5: what he said.

986
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: He said, he respects everybody that's in front of him, right,

987
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: but he's not competing with you. He's competing with the game,

988
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I think I think

989
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: the way he looks at basketball g you know, like

990
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: he said like this is this is in my DM

991
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: at DNA, I am basketball, You feel what I mean

992
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: that I think I think I think that's just so beautiful.

993
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: But I think that was the best article at really

994
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: showing who KD is, who he truly is, and how

995
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: he truly feel about himself. And we call him sensitive

996
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: and all this shit. I don't think Kd's sensitive, you

997
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I think KD is extremely confident,

998
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I just feel like he

999
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: is perceived in a way that he doesn't see himself

1000
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: at times. And I feel like this was the first

1001
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: article that I read that I felt like this was

1002
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: actually KD. I was reading about, not somebody else's opinion

1003
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: of him.

1004
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: I appreciated it filling in the gap for me a

1005
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, I've been on the KD side

1006
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: of most arguments that involve KD because we've talked about

1007
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: it on the pod, that you can have otherworldly talent

1008
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: and love doing something and just not like people looking

1009
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: at you and just not like all this shit that

1010
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: comes with that. We don't acknowledge that possibility very often.

1011
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: But that's the case with people, right if you think

1012
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: about the people he's measuring himself against, and that rightfully so,

1013
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: talent wise and accomplishment wise, right, Michael Jordan, Kobe, Lebron,

1014
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: All three of those dudes, number one, the way that

1015
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: they were measured by external standards was very important to them,

1016
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: very important to them, right, But also they were self

1017
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: conscious about that. Lebron James's whole career. Lebron James was

1018
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: thinking about passing Kareem for the leading scorer in NBA

1019
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 1: history when he was seventeen years old. KD was thinking

1020
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: about basketball. And that's different. And I thought this article

1021
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: did a much better job I agree with you, John,

1022
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: than anything else I'd read of explaining that just a

1023
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: personality difference. It's not that he doesn't want, like you said,

1024
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: the respect and whatever else he he's not thinking about.

1025
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: It's just like Lebron just grew up in a way

1026
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: that I don't think I can think of anyone else

1027
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: like him. I mean it's like it's like a Kennedy

1028
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: or something, but coming from being homeless, like he's seventeen

1029
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: and he's the spotlights on him for like you're either

1030
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: going to be the best or second best player ever

1031
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: or you failed. That's nuts.

1032
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: You know.

1033
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: KD just wanted to be in the gym, you know,

1034
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: like he and I think in that respect, probably he

1035
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: and Yannis have more in common than he does with

1036
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: Lebron or with Kobe. He just didn't come from that

1037
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: same place of Michael Jordan won six. I mean Kobe

1038
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: Bryant was eighteen talking about Michael Jordan won six championships.

1039
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win seventeen or seven. You know, Like it's

1040
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: just a that's a personality thing, not a talent thing

1041
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: or you know whatever. It's not a right or wrong.

1042
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: It's just a different kind of a person for sure.

1043
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: For sure.

1044
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 5: Like like I said in the group chatt a while back,

1045
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 5: and I say this as a compliment we had, I

1046
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 5: don't think we've ever seen an NBA player who was

1047
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 5: this good and who gave less of a fuck about

1048
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 5: how they were perceived, then KD.

1049
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1050
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: Usually guys who are on Kd's tier, who are fucking

1051
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 5: you know, those all timers, they are very image conscious.

1052
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 5: They don't want to plemage that, you know. Meanwhile, KD

1053
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 5: is out here, you know, motherfucker's posting videos of him

1054
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 5: telling fans to shut the fuck up, and he's posting.

1055
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 4: He's retweeted with means of someone handing cash because he

1056
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 4: knows the financy right right right, like like KD.

1057
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 5: KD doesn't give a fuck about his image, And like

1058
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 5: I said, I say that as a compliment because he's

1059
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 5: being his genuine self, right And usually if you're image conscious,

1060
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 5: there's gonna be times who you're not being your genuine stuff.

1061
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 5: You're taking the high role when you don't want to.

1062
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 5: You know, you're you're you're you're doing shit you don't

1063
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 5: necessarily want to. Your agreeing to to to do to to,

1064
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 5: you know, conduct yourself in a way that doesn't feel genuine.

1065
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 5: But that's not how KD moves.

1066
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: Bro. When I see KD moving, that's like KD is

1067
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: being KD. You know what I mean, that's who he is.

1068
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: I mean even when we saw him, like I know,

1069
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: he was like he was the most probably liked player

1070
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: in the NBA at one point, you know. I mean

1071
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: I think this was a we was with OKC around

1072
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: the time when there was a lockown and played Yeah, yeah,

1073
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: he went. He went and played a like was it

1074
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: flag football with like a local wal club.

1075
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: When he was doing the Julie Goodman League tour, you know,

1076
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: when they played in the pyramid. I mean, he may

1077
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: as well have been God you.

1078
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: Feel me, like, yeah for sure, and so he was.

1079
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: And also there was one point where he was like

1080
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: trying to fight against that, and I think it was

1081
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: because he was. He tweets he had tried to play

1082
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: that media game, you know what I mean, and he's like, bro,

1083
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Speaker 2: this is not me.

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00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: You feel me like I am. I want to be

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Speaker 4: a full.

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Speaker 2: Human And that's what he is. G I mean, he

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00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: talks about basketball like I just like this activity.

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00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 4: I like what I do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the love for the game came out so much,

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Speaker 2: and I mean I think that's where him and Kyrie

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00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: kind of click, you know what I mean. We're like,

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00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: you know, have you stik to see Kyrie doing the

1093
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: ball drills with like each finger he was doing like this,

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00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: It's like, Bro, that's a guy that's just obsessed with basketball.

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00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: And that's where they that's where they click, is that

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00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: they the love for the game they have is incredible.

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00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: And even like Katie was talking about, he told Kyrie

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00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: how he was frustrated that Kyrie wasn't playing, but he

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00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: respected that. Kyrie, you know, had a decision to make

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00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: that with bigger than the game, you know, for himself.

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00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: At least, you know what I mean. I don't know.

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00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: I just I digged them. I'm interested in where they're

1103
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: going to be twenty years from now. They talk about

1104
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: being a lifetime finished. I want to Hey, man, I

1105
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 2: pay tickets to watch him twenty years from now. Koking

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00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: on some young dudes with Lebron James uncle Leggs. You

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00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying at that point, No, I mean,

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00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying that I called it in the group that

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00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: I said Lebron uncle Leggs. I mean, and I say

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00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 2: that as as I mean he's he's getting older, obviously,

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00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: say that in respect, in respect he's he's thirty seven,

1112
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: you feel me, But the way he's changed his game

1113
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 2: and he has a totally different game now than he

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00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: had prior. You know that what got him to be

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00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: Lebron James thirty That that thirty eight was. It was

1116
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: a masterful thirty eight watching that ship, you know what

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00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But fortunately Air bought a three then. But

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00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying. Honestly,

1119
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: don't you know? It's crazy to see Lebron do what

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00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: he's going, But yeah, whatever, I think, I think KD.

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00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: I think that the article about Katie was so eye

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00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: opening and it was Yeah, shout out to Logan Man.

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00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 4: That was that was that was That was special.

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00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: Last thing before we get out of here. I haven't

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00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: seen it yet, but Tyler is recommending the Jerrod Carmichael Special,

1126
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: which I'm excited to see based off of your recommendation

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00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: of what you said about it. But there's actually that

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00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: actually fits in nicely with this show about being yourself

1129
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: and don't waste time on a podcast pretending to be

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00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: someone else. So yeah, sell sell that special to the people,

1131
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: because you already sold it to me and John.

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00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: So well, it's it's good as hell, it's funny, it's honest,

1133
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 5: it's intimate, it's it's it's you know, a dude who's

1134
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 5: who's bearing himself out there and not in like a

1135
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 5: self fucking martyr ishue. It's a dude just being his

1136
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 5: genuine self. And you know, I said, I wish we

1137
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 5: all watched it so we could dive deeper into it.

1138
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 5: I don't want to spoil it for you because it's

1139
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 5: a really fucking special stand up man, Highly recommend it.

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00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: There's very serious moments in the stand up. Oh yeah,

1141
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 4: I love stand up like that, bro.

1142
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: I like stand up that makes me feel all emotions.

1143
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 2: Hasumana Us, Yeah, yeah, he had the homecoming.

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00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a beautiful experience.

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00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm definitely gonna tap tap in with this one,

1147
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 2: yeah for sure.

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00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll talk about it again on the

1149
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: midweek episode with when we talk Winning time, because I'll

1150
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: for sure watch about that. But yeah, definitely check it out.

1151
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: Like I told Tyler, so the rollout for it included

1152
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: like a variety feature and all this other stuff. If

1153
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: they had just sent the special early to like Tyler

1154
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: and people, that would have gotten me much more interested

1155
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: than the variety story. You know what I mean of,

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00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: just like, hey, this is worth checking out, but.

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00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: Send it to me bomani in t Norris Man.

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00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: We'll get you there, Jesus.

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00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: Christ, thank y'all, Yes for sure, that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's all the time we got for the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you as always for listening to Jenmeus Jones. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you guys in a couple of days. Bye bye.

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Speaker 4: By four