1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Ron An aian. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: I know we all sit there and say in these times, 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: We've been saying it for years. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 3: Right. 5 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: People are rude, people are discourteous. You know, you scratch 6 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: your head, you bang your head against the wall, Like, 7 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: what's wrong with people? There is a lot wrong with people. 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Imagine what Kee the car Doctor. So thirty miles an 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: hour going down the road, don't step on the brake 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: gently ge n t l y apply the parking brake 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: to slogan. If you apply the brake too quick, like 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: normal transition time, it'll spend the back end around. That's 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: how they make a one eighty degree turn. 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian the Car Doctor. 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: The doors are opening, but I am here to take 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: your calls at eight five, five, five, six, nine hundred 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: and now. 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Running. 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: I don't know is it worth it to fix that car? 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: Is it worth it to put two thousand, three thousand, 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: four thousand dollars in it? I don't know I think so, 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: and I'll give you the I'll give you the information 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: that you need, I'll give you the critical thinking skills. 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: I hope to let you make a valid decision because 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: everybody's situation is different, and that's the truth, right. Everybody's 30 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: got a different pocketbook, everybody's got a different budget, everybody's 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 2: got different needs, and that's what makes trying to fix 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: cars to match everybody's economics so difficult at times. Trevor 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: was in this week. Trevor a good guy, long term customers. 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: He's he's he's more on the friend level at this stage. 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: I've known him for so long and he's he actually 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: works for the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles. 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: He had some commentary about Tom's dilemma transferring title for 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: his daughter's car that I haven't time yet, so I 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: have to tell him after the show today. But you know, 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: Trevor was in the shop this week and we were 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: talking about he was he was, you know, spending a 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: couple of bucks on his his new Honda that he 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: had just well, his new used Honda that he was purchasing. 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: We were talking, you know, is it worth it? You know, 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: we were talking also specifically in that he had a 46 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: two thousand and four Honda Accord in the previous week 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: that he put a good bit of money in. But 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: I said, you know, you've got to look at replacement costs, 49 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: because I think that's really what it is. What also 50 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: triggered the conversation was Trevor had a two thousand I 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: want to say, a two thousand and eight or a 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: twenty ten. I forget what the model year was Ford Explore, 53 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: and I think it was an eight. And it needed 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: a computer. It needed a PCM that was having an 55 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: accelerator pedal position censor fault if I remember right at 56 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: twenty one thirty seven full code. And he needed a 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: PCM which didn't exist. He needed a wiring hornets which 58 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: didn't exist. And he was a little frustrated and he's 59 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: annoyed for it that and I get it, you know, 60 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: twelve ten, twelve years later, because this problem has been 61 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: happening for quite a while. No more parts. So they said, 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna switch to Honda. And you know, 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: that's a classic example of what goes wrong in this business. 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: The car companies don't get it. They want to keep 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: their cars going for a while, and he said, I 66 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: feel more comfortable with Honda. But we were talking about 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: you know, is this car the one that he picked 68 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: to put money in the four Honda. I said, yeah, 69 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: you know, Honda tends to keep parts around longer, which 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: they do. This new mindset that the industry is falling into, though, 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: makes me question all of it, but I will. I 72 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: will give kudos where kudos are due. Toyota and Honda 73 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: both tend to keep parts around the longest. For the record, 74 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: the companies that I see keeping parts around the least 75 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: is Ford and Chrysler Chrysler Jeep. My suspicion with Chrysler 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: Jeep is that they probably lost parts because of all 77 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: the owners they've had in the last fifteen years. But 78 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: Ford's got no excuse for it should be keeping parts 79 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: longer than they do because it'll increase the value of 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: their vehicles because people can drive them longer. I think 81 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: what car companies don't see is that when people can't 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: get parts for their cars, they get annoyed and then 83 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: they go buy a different brand. Airgo Trevor draw going 84 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: from a Ford to a to a Honda. But while 85 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: I was standing there in the shop, I said, Trevor, 86 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: I said, do me a favor, just just for knowledge sake, 87 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: do a little research for me. I said, why don't 88 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: you go look up a brand new Honda Accord and 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: a brand new Toyota Toyota Camra, you know, and make 90 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: them loaded, make them top of the line. Xles, civic 91 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: lex are a court lex whatever it is? Where are they? 92 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: We figured it out that to go out and buy 93 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 2: a well equipped, you know, high line four door sedan 94 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: from Toyota or Honda, you're between thirty five and forty 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, and you know that's it's a lot of money. 96 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: So you know, back in the day, you know, when 97 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: you put five hundred dollars into a car and over 98 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: it for a year and did maintenance, and the car 99 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 2: was I don't know, fifteen thousand dollars, twenty thousand dollars, 100 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: twenty two thousand dollars, and the price of repair seems 101 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: to go up as the price of the car goes up. 102 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: Is it any different? You know that forty thousand dollars, 103 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: that's a real number. Get into an suv or a 104 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: pickup truck or you know, anything above that, and all 105 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: of a sudden you're in the sixty seventy eighty thousand 106 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: dollars range. I think when it comes to picking, do 107 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: I repair a card or do I get rid of it? 108 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: I think it also has to come down to, you know, 109 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: getting out at the right time, because you've got to 110 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: understand why you're putting money in that car. You know, 111 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: if you're putting four thousand dollars into a twenty year 112 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: old car, you've got to figure that you're going to 113 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: hang on to that car at least for three years. 114 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: Figuring twelve hundred dollars a year for average monthly cost 115 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: of operation, which the math comes out right, Just stuff 116 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: to think about, you know, it's funny. I read an 117 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: article in the Wall Street Journal this morning that says 118 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 2: BOSH is going to be laying off seventy five hundred 119 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: employees over the course of the next couple of years 120 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: because there's a downturn in the auto industry in that 121 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: they're not selling the parts they thought they would be selling. 122 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: And there's also a downturn because of the transition, as 123 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal put it, to the very expensive 124 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: future of electric vehicles. Then I read a second part 125 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: of the article that talked about another company that's laying 126 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: off workers, and they make batteries for electric vehicles, and 127 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: unfortunately the electric vehicle market hasn't caught on, and they're 128 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: letting go of employees over the course of the next 129 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: two years because their sales have slumped. Makes me wonder 130 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: everybody's sales have slumped, but yet the price of cars 131 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: keep going up. I spoke to someone this week from 132 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: one of the local Chrysler Jeep dealers, and he was 133 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: explaining to me how they have an overabundance of stock 134 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: of Wrangler Ease, which is the electric vehicle version of 135 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: a Jeep Wrangler, and he told me, he said, I 136 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: can't we can't give them away. He said, nobody wants 137 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: them and they're just too expensive. And I was curious. 138 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: I said, how much is a base Wrangler now? You know, 139 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: I mean a four wheel drive Jeep, right, you know, 140 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: at one time the most basic vehicle on the planet. Well, 141 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: it is still a basic vehicle. Basically, it's going to 142 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: cost you fifty six thousand dollars to get into one, 143 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: because that's that's entry level pricing, So sixty grand for 144 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: a Jeep. And we want to know what's wrong with 145 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: the automobile industry again, bring back the horse, right. You know, 146 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: you can't be surprised when the car you're driving costs 147 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: you a lot of money to repair and you haven't 148 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: spent money on it in a long time, and I 149 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: think it's unrealistic. You know, You've got to look at 150 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: it as it's the house, right. You're always working on 151 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: the house. The house always needs something. You're always you know, 152 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: repairing something, you know, replacing something. Appliance is plumbing, heating, 153 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: electrical something, something's always breaking. Cars are the same way. Now. 154 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: You don't move because the house needs twenty thousand dollars 155 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: worth of renovation or maybe one hundred thousand dollars add on. 156 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: But you make it. You make a determination what's in 157 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: the budget. I think you got to do that with 158 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: cars too, and I think that's just a big part 159 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: of the puzzle, you know, when it comes to that 160 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: this hour. So we can talk about that if you want. 161 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm here at eight five five five six zero nine 162 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: nine zero zero, and we can talk about that in 163 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: any of your other car problems. Next week's show, by 164 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: the way, is going to be tape. I can tell 165 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: you that right up front. We've already put it together. 166 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: We did a live show Wednesday night. We had a 167 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: couple of people stop by the studio. We did Wednesday 168 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: night with the Car Doctor. And it's actually a very 169 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: good show. You're going to enjoy it. We've got some 170 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: great interviews in there. We've got some great questions and 171 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: comment and commentary. So we're looking forward to it and 172 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: it's it's a fresh show, so you can look forward 173 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: to just another You know, you'll miss me for the week. 174 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: Tom won't miss me I know that, but he hasn't 175 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: missed me with any shots so far. But there's a 176 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: there's a marriage with children joke in there somewhere. So 177 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: but in any event, Hey, when I come back, I 178 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: want to talk about the main main The state of 179 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: Maine is doing right to repair, the work being done 180 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: up there. The fight for right to repair is continuing 181 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: in Maine. In Massachusetts are putting it on the books, 182 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: you know, and basically, in case you didn't know, right 183 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: to repair helps ensure that you can work on and 184 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: repair your own vehicle, but also other things from laptops 185 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: to you know, washing machines. That there's going to be 186 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: no proprietary information because a lot of the manufacturers are 187 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: claiming that, So we'll do that on the flip side. 188 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 189 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: I'm running eighty in the car. 190 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: Doctor. 191 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. 192 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: For the best in car advice, give run a call 193 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Now back 194 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 3: to Ron. 195 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: Hey, there the state of Massachusetts in Maine, both of them, 196 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: they're very busy with right to repair the article I'm 197 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: talking about in Ratchet and Wrench this month. You know, 198 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: they're one of the few states that have right to 199 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: repair legislation, the two of them. The law passed will 200 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: require the creation of an oversight committee to help ensure 201 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: automakers are providing data to repairs. But before that can happen, 202 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: the article points out, Mains bill has laid out phases 203 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: of implemation implementation, the first of which being the formation 204 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: of a working group to determine how this committee will operate. 205 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: So it's good to know that Right to Repair is 206 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: alive and well and working hard, and you know, it's 207 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: something we all need to be aware of because you 208 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: need information in order to repair your vehicle. So you 209 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: can go Google search right to repair. You can find 210 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: the National or the federal level committee that's in charge 211 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: of it and trying to help them, and you know, 212 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: lend your voice, get a hold of your elected officials 213 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: and make them aware that you are where you stand 214 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: on right to repair. So just some good stuff to 215 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: be aware of. I'll cover that a little bit more 216 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: later on this hour. Let's go and talk to Bill 217 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: in Virginia, Oh for Ford Crown, VIC and some questions 218 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: about aer roid. 219 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: Bill. 220 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, How can I help? 221 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: Hi? Yeah, I haven't physically touched the car yet. I'm 222 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: just gonna help my neighbor. Okay, but it's like known 223 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: quirks about it. How should I check it? My heavy 224 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: truck mechanic? Can we all get right? Totally different? 225 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: Do you have to put air in attire? Yeah, you're qualified. 226 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know that's that's that's kind of it. Brother. 227 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's just two balloons, one under 228 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: each corner. So what is this It doesn't work anymore 229 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 2: or the car sinks or well nah he. 230 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: Had someone else put airbags in it or whatever their 231 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: right is and it drifts down, okay, you know, sitting. 232 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: So so then you're going to check the usual leveling valves. 233 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well something like that. So here's here's going to 234 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: be the catch. All right, here's the things you got 235 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: to think about. This should be a this should be 236 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: a coil spring front and an air spring under each 237 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: corner in the rear left for your right rear, and 238 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: then there'll be then there'll be a traditional shock absorber. 239 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: All right. The air the air spring will be fed 240 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: by a clear plastic or nylon line. However you want 241 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: to look at it with a you know, a quick 242 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: pull apart connector. All right, there'll be an air solinoid. 243 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: There'll be an air solenoid on each spring. So this 244 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: is this is nothing more than you know, bring the 245 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: system up to ride height and careful how you get 246 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: under there, and just start spraying with a soapy you know, 247 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: soapy water. You're you're looking for a leak? 248 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah you know? 249 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: Now? 250 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: Okay, now basically, yeah, go ahead. Well I've done a 251 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: lot of them. I used to. I was a heavy 252 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: Master heavy truck and we did a lot of ambulances. Okay, 253 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: so I'm looking for it's soapy water, bubbly leak. Ah. 254 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: Trouble is, it's a very low car, right, can I 255 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: set the axle on jack stands and do it. 256 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, you know you may you know if 257 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: you if you have to, you know, put it up 258 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: on Jackson's. Disconnect the battery so the system won't run. 259 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: Let it sit it, Let it sit at trim height. Right, 260 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: put it up on jack stands. The system is going 261 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: to be pressurized. Rights. As long as the tire has 262 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: air and it it should show you the leak. Correct. Correct, 263 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: So you know, my one concern and question would be, 264 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: you know he just replaced the air springs where they 265 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: did some sort of air system suspension work. 266 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: Well, he said, they put on air springs bags. What 267 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: is under there? I haven't been you know, I haven't 268 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: physically touched vehicle. It looked okay. I just he's my neighbors, 269 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: so I told my help. Yeah, all the neighborhood cottage yep. 270 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: Free. 271 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: Probably very probably was a very expensive repair the air springs. 272 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: The last time I looked a couple of three months ago, 273 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 2: we had a similar vehicle. We had an O four Crown, 274 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: not a Crown like a Grand Grand Marquis. Same car 275 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: and the air springs from Ford were obsolete and the 276 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: the aftermarket version of air springs was somewhere in the 277 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: neighborhood of four hundred dollars a piece, I want to 278 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: say it was. It was, yeah, it was crazy money 279 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: what we ended up. And my concern was there, you know, 280 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: on a twenty year old vehicle that had some miles 281 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: on it. My concern was, what's going to break next? Right? Yeah, 282 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: So I went to I've been using a company called 283 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: strut Masters. They're based out of North Carolina, and I've 284 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: been using them for quite a while now over the years, 285 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: and they will sell you a complete kit. It'll have 286 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: it'll have two coil springs, a set of shocks, and 287 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: it will have the instructions on how to disable the 288 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: air suspension system so you don't see the warning light 289 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: on the dashboard. Pretty pretty quick, painless and simple to do. 290 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: I think the kit was I want to say three 291 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: hundred bucks, four hundred bucks something like that. It was. 292 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, it was like it was like 293 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: the price of one one one air bag. And you 294 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: know the beauty is the car would ride okay, it 295 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: rode fine, and you know, because here's the next problem. 296 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: You put one thousand dollars worth of air springs in it. 297 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: What if the air solenoid goes bad. There's a solenoid 298 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: on each valve, on each bag the control air in 299 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: so that can fail. Then the compressor can go bad, 300 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: the lines could rupture. I mean, you know, there's just 301 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: there's just additional expensive parts on a twenty year old vehicle. 302 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: Here's that opening conversation I just had with you guys 303 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: right about you know, how do you make the repair? 304 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: I think it's a balancing act. I think it's like 305 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: walking the tightrope at the circus, and you know, here's 306 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: here's here's here's a car that's a cannon they for Hey, 307 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: let's you know your neighbor needs a car. You know, 308 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: he's probably older, I'm guessing, and you know he bought 309 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: this car new, I'm guessing, and he just wants to okay, 310 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: but you know it's said he wants to go back 311 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: and forth to the to the supermarket and church and 312 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: he just needs wheels, right, you know, sometimes making it simpler, 313 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: you know, the case for the simpler horse is a 314 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: classic example of air suspension as at ages. 315 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: So so I'll just go in there. And now the solenoids, 316 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: are they like a leveling valve type? 317 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they will they will let they will let 318 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: air in and they will let air bleed out again, 319 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: soapy water. You're looking. You're looking for leaks if the 320 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: car is drifting down. And what you could do is 321 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: there's a master on off switch. And I just thought 322 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: of this. There's a master on off switch in the trunk. 323 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: There should be on the left side. You won't have 324 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: you won't have to disconnect the battery. Actually, just turn 325 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: off the master ro on off switch and that'll disable 326 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 2: the system. So if you want, yeah and work your 327 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: way back, well, actually, yeah. 328 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: Work my way down the line. Just connect the line. 329 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: See if the compressor's got a check leak or something 330 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: like that. 331 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: Well, first thing I probably do, bill, just because I 332 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: don't trust anybody else's work. I'd probably look at the 333 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: install I just i'd verified did they really put new 334 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: airsprings in it? Did they push the you know what 335 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: I mean when I say Chinese handcuff. You know it's 336 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: kind of like the line that pushes in and you 337 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: can't pull it out against itself. Yeah, push locks. We 338 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: used to call them Chinese handcuffs, right. You know we 339 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: can't say that on radio anymore, So I won't say 340 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: Chinese handcuffs. It's probably not correct. No offense meant and 341 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: just you know, I would check my fittings. I would 342 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: check my fittings for leaks. I would check my new 343 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: bags for leaks and work my way. 344 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: Get a presser from there, bottle of soap, go to town, 345 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: go to town. That's what I used to do on 346 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: all the many because they all had Empire trustees. They 347 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: have them big bag a system. 348 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: Yah, you're just saying listen, you're just Bill. You're just 349 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: working on a smaller version of that ambulance. So you know, 350 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: that's what it's all about. If you need me, I'm here, kiddo, 351 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: And thank you for helping your neighbor out and thank 352 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: you for being kind to one another. It's very important 353 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: today in this day and age. I'm running Indie in 354 00:18:27,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: the car. Doctor. I'll be back right after this. And 355 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: did you see the article in the news today out 356 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: of Milwaukee. Electric vehicle owners will soon have to pay 357 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: a tax when charging their cars in the Wisconsin Department 358 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: of Revenue announced last week is more Wisconsin owners up 359 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: for electric vehicles. The tax aims to create a more 360 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: equitable system where all drivers contribute contribute to road repair 361 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: costs of the Department Secretary David Casey said in a news release. 362 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: So things are changing in the ED world as well. 363 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: Things are just moving right along, no pun intended. Let's 364 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: go up to Stewart in Pennsylvania, have some questions and comments. 365 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: Run an Indian at your service, Stewart. How can I help? 366 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: Hey? How you doing? I never thought I'd be calling 367 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: into a car repair show, but I do listen to 368 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: you from time to time, and I'm always interested. 369 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. 370 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: You were making a comment. I'm sorry. 371 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I was gonna say. I just said, thank you. 372 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: Go ahead, sirr. I don't mean to interrupt. 373 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 4: Ahead, No, no, you're good. When he opened the show, 374 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: you're talking about it guy who had a deal with 375 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 4: I think it was a Ford Explorer and he ended 376 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: up getting your used Honda. And then you know, you 377 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 4: were you were weighing the you're hedging whether to get 378 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: a new car, and you know, the thirty five thousand 379 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 4: for a camera or something like that. You know what 380 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 4: came to my mind was I would look for a Toyota. 381 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: Say it a Corolla that has fifty sixty seventy thousand miles, 382 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: not too old. You don't want to sit around. So 383 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 4: you want something, you know, five six years old whatever, 384 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: and if you can get it from a dealer and 385 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 4: they put a guarantee on a fine, but if you 386 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 4: can get it privately you look at the history. I'm 387 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 4: just guessing. Let's say it's a seventeen, right, so you're 388 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 4: talking about seven eight years old or an eighteen, and 389 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: you know you might be able to get that car 390 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 4: for about nine grand, so you could sell the car 391 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: that you want to get rid of and maybe get 392 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: a thousand or two and then maybe you take out 393 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 4: a little loan. You know. Uh, the only car I 394 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 4: would buy yous would be a Toyota, without question. I 395 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 4: do think they're the best car on the road. 396 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: Let me let me ask let me ask you questions, Stuart. 397 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 2: What do you so you drive Toyotas? Now, what did 398 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: you start out driving? 399 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 4: In your centrists? Okay, I got the first I'm sorry, I. 400 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 2: Mean back when you were you know, when you were 401 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: when you were younger? What did you what was your 402 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 2: first car? 403 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: It was a Plymouth Horizon I had four years. 404 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, now I know why you switched to Nissans. 405 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: So Nissan back in the day that you know, Nissan 406 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 4: Hans and Toyota were on the same level. But I remember, 407 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: so I got the first year that the center came out, 408 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 4: the fast back and stick shifted and a whole bit. 409 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: That was a good car, but the body rushed it 410 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 4: out and the shock powers came through and I had 411 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 4: a I couldn't fix it. I mean, I took it 412 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: to a private body shop, but after one repair, you 413 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 4: know up front, the suspension whatever's holding it, and my 414 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: mechanic said, you can't drive this car. I couldn't even 415 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 4: sell it to a fix it up mechanic. In ninety seven, 416 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 4: I bought a ninety four Nissan CenTra that was a 417 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 4: you know, piece of car. I wasn't totally happy with it. 418 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: And in two thousand and seven I bought a two 419 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 4: thousand and six privately Nissan Sentra, and you know it 420 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 4: started to I mean, there were repairs on that car 421 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 4: that I I didn't think I should be making it, 422 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: you know. So, you know, I had ten thousand miles 423 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 4: and I got it from a guy that this private owner, 424 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: and I talked to him about forty five minutes just 425 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 4: to get an idea who I was dealing with. You know, 426 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: I trusted him. I believe this story. Why he was 427 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: getting another car one had ten thousand miles. Well, you 428 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: got a company cars anyway. I have a friend in 429 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 4: my church named Steve, and I was in seventeen. I 430 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: was looking for a new car, you know, I was 431 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 4: on Social Security and I'm thinking Honda or Toyota. I 432 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: didn't know which was better. And I saw him at 433 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: church one day and he works with a NASCAR team 434 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 4: where he did. He's got his own auto repair entire place, 435 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: you know, and he you knows, you know, he can 436 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: do it all mechanically. And I said to him at church, 437 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 4: I said, I'm thinking of getting a new car. What 438 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 4: should I get? A Honda or Toyota. You didn't hesitate, 439 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: He said Toyota. So I bought a camera and I 440 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 4: liked it. I've always wanted an Avalon because of the 441 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: better ride room. 442 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: Year. 443 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: So in eighteen they were given away. It was the 444 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 4: last year of that particular design, and it was thirty 445 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: I got, you know, that's the basic model. 446 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: A base Avalon, sure. 447 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: Exactly, and the car listed for thirty four something. I 448 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: got it for twenty five, one hundred dollars and change. 449 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 4: They gave me ninety You. 450 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: Got it for twenty five thousand dollars in change. 451 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 4: Brand new twenty eighteen avalon and now I like, you know, 452 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: dealerships night. I don't want to hold out on the trade. 453 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 4: And you know he I could have got another two 454 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 4: thousand on the trade, and I really fought it. But 455 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 4: you know, you know, these people got to make a 456 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 4: living too, right, you know what I mean? 457 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: So let me ask let me, let me ask you 458 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 2: a question, Stuart. Let me ask you a question. How 459 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: long you been driving? How many years? 460 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: Forty thirty, fifty fifty eight years? Okay, I'm seventy two. 461 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: Would you ever go back to a domestic car? Would 462 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: you ever go back to a four GM or Chrysler? 463 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely not, absolutely not. You know, what you go through 464 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: a private car lot, you might see one Toyoda there. 465 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 2: Right, and. 466 00:25:50,800 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 4: What you see is key is Volkswagon forwards Hondas, uh. 467 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: You know. 468 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 4: And you know like if I see a Toyota camera 469 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: or something on there, uh, and I was going to 470 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: buy it. I wonder what was wrong with it, whether 471 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 4: we flooded out or what. 472 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: You know, Stuart, I'll tell you what. Sit tight a minute, babe. 473 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: I got a question for you. When we come back. 474 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: I want to get your opinion about something. I think 475 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: everybody will want to hear it from you. So don't 476 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: don't go anywhere, please, I'm running Indie in the car Doctor. 477 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this. Hey, there we are 478 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: talking with Stuart in Pennsylvania running any of the car 479 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: Doctor at your service, Stuart, let me ask you something. 480 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: What did you do for a career. I mean it 481 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: sounds like you're either retired or close to it. What 482 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: what was your occupation in life? 483 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 3: Sir? 484 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: Well, I started out I want to drafting school and 485 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 4: became the chemical drafter. That ended in the late eighties. 486 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 4: Then I was doing some retail and I was fortunate 487 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 4: enough in two thousand and four to get a job 488 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 4: with a inside you know, work in a pest control company. Okay, 489 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: that is family owned, the wonderful people. I've been there 490 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 4: ever since. I'm probably going to work part time till 491 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 4: I can't work right need too. 492 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: So you've seen retail, You've seen education, you've you've kind 493 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: of done a little bit of everything. So to me, 494 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: that makes you more than qualified to answer this question. 495 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: And that's my point. This is my point. You know, 496 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: if you could speak directly to the CEO of four 497 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: GM or Chrysler. What would you tell them was wrong 498 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: with their companies? Where did they lose the potential to 499 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: have you as a customer. 500 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 4: Well, well, you touched on it earlier. You know you 501 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: can't get parts for these cars. I don't know. I 502 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 4: mean they're I think they're trying to build these cars 503 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 4: at the cheapest price. I don't think the quality parts. 504 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 4: It's been that way for a long time with the 505 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: American car companies. I know, back when I was a kid, 506 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: my father would buy Chevrolet and I was considered one 507 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 4: of the best cars in the road in Palla three 508 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: twenty seven. All bits lots changed. And the Japanese cars 509 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: when they hit the market back in late seventies, I 510 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 4: guess it was. 511 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, late seventies, early eighties. 512 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: You know, you could buy a car and you could 513 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 4: maintenance it, oh last year, long time. Except back then 514 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 4: they didn't. They didn't have the right rustproofing, galvanized the 515 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: whole bit, you know in the cars we rush that 516 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: like my center did. I could have diven that car. 517 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: Another had one hundred and fifty thousand miles, never added 518 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: a drop of oil to it. I changed it every 519 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: three months if before the synthetics, and I only I 520 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 4: don't put a lot of miles on it, but I 521 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: know the oil is the light blood of a car. 522 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 4: Think the fresh engine will last forever. Same with transmission fluids, 523 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: same with coolant. 524 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: So what would you tell you? What would you ask 525 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: the CEO Stewart just to drag it back to the original. 526 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: And I appreciate your comments, I do, But is it 527 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: is it? Is it that you feel like the quality 528 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: isn't there in the domestic product? 529 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 4: The quality control is quality parts. They don't have good 530 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: parts and the quality control is not good. And I 531 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: don't I mean, they deserve to go out of business 532 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: if they do, not that I want the workers or 533 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: lose their jobs. You put a crappy product out there. 534 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I noticed. I'm saying more brand 535 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: new Toyota pickup trucks and F one fifties. That's been 536 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 4: that way for the last five six years. I'm amazed 537 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: how many more people are buying pickup trucks from Toyota now. 538 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 4: It's amazing, Well, you know it's. 539 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: It's it's interesting. Did you read the recent recall earlier 540 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: in the year for the I think it was like 541 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: the V six twin turbos with engine failures. 542 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, why did they try something different? You know, 543 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: and then you don't even know over time, you know, 544 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 4: a couple of years, what's going to happen. I was 545 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 4: surprised that Toyota even bothered with that. I didn't make 546 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 4: any sense. Yeah, when I heard what they were doing, 547 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: don't making any sense to me. 548 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: But it's it's funny, you know, the car companies do 549 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: different things like that, and then before they know it, 550 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: they're they're up the creek without a paddle, so to speak. 551 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: As we always like to say, you know, I will 552 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: leave it here, all right, I understand what you're saying. 553 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: Toyota and Honda. I could probably fill an hour just 554 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: telling you the problems I see with either one of 555 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: those companies. I think the domestics make some decent vehicles, 556 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: it depends which ones. I think the Toyotas Hondas makes 557 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: some decent vehicles, it depends which ones. I think they 558 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: all have their problems. I think there's more parody than 559 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: we realize. I do say right now. For example, I 560 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: know from my friends working in dealerships, GM has a 561 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: real serious problem with their six point two liter V 562 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: eights in the SUVs and the trucks with Crankscheff's breaking 563 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: before the car gets out of the showroom. I've heard 564 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: some story. I've heard some stories about the Jeep V six's. 565 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: I most recently heard one this week. Somebody was telling 566 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: me he works in a dealer. Two brand new Wranglers 567 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: or not the Wranglers, the full sized Grand wagoneer that's 568 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars vehicle. The engines engine failed to Yeah. 569 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 4: Before we part, I do have I thought of something 570 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 4: going to break. I have two questions to ask about me. 571 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: I might tell you, we'll tell you what. Let me 572 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: pull over and take the pause, and but let me 573 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: just finish the comment. When we come back, we'll finish 574 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: with you. But these two jeeps, one's got fifty four 575 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: miles on it, fifty four miles, engines destroyed. The other 576 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: one's got three hundred some odd miles on it, engines destroyed. 577 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: So it seems like they all have their problems. But boy, 578 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: it just doesn't make any sense when you look at 579 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: what a car costs. I'm ronning Ady and the car Doctor. 580 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: We'll be back to finish it up. With Stuart right 581 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: after this. Okay, let's see if we can finish up here. 582 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: Stuart Pennsylvania, you're still there, sir. You know, look at that, 583 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: your first time calling into an audit repair show and 584 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: you almost had a whole half hour with me. Look 585 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: at that. 586 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 4: Huh Yeah, I hope I wasn't block and the other caller. 587 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: No, you're fine. Listen, we we we thought you were 588 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: interesting and we liked hearing your comments. So you got 589 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: two questions, you got two minutes. What are they? 590 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 4: Oh good? I'm a pulled on an avalon transmission fluid 591 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 4: and spark plugs one hundred thousand miles. I'm thinking sixty 592 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 4: thousand miles on both. 593 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: No, I'll tell you what car. Now, you know what 594 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: transfluid in the transfluid in the fifty to sixty range, 595 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: I agree with you can let the plugs go till 596 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: the ninety to one hundred thousand mile mark. But here's 597 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: going to be the catch. This is a V six avalon. 598 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: It is Yeah, when you do when you do the plugs, 599 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: you want to consider replacing the ignition coils because to 600 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: get to the back plugs, you're going to have to 601 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: pull the upper intake planum. So when you do, when 602 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: you do the plugs, you're going to take the coils out. 603 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: The coils do have a high failure rate, so at 604 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: least replacing the back three that are accessible. As it's 605 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: going to add expense, now, it's going to save you 606 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: money in the long run because if you have a 607 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: coil failure, it will be one of the front three 608 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: and they're easy enough to get to. You don't have 609 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: to go through that same labor. Again, Yes, I do 610 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: the the other three, the ones in the front. Most 611 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: people do, but it's not mandatory. 612 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 4: About the about Okay, well you know all of them. 613 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would do. I would do six and six 614 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: and then you're done, you know. And then while you're 615 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: at the one hundred thousand mile mark, if you haven't 616 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: done it at sixty, I would also do a fuel 617 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 2: system cleaning and decarbonization. Was there a second question, Stuart. 618 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 4: No, I combine the two questions. 619 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: Okay, good, yeah, no. You know, you talk to a 620 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: Toyota dealer, most Toyota dealers, and it seems like it 621 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: depends on which ones you talk to. They will tell 622 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: you that, you know, the fluid is lifetime. More often 623 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: than not, of late in the last five years. The 624 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 2: fluid is starting to show it's age at the seventy 625 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: five eighty thousand mile mark, where it will start to cut, 626 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 2: shutter and shake. The trans won't operate as smoothly. It's 627 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 2: losing its additive package. It's losing its vitamin edge as 628 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: I like to think of it, and you'll see that 629 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: transmission start to misbehave. Changing the fluid restores that I 630 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't wait till the maximum amount of time. I typically 631 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: we typically do trans fluid every sixty on the Toyota, 632 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: sometimes a little more if it's older or if it's 633 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: a little bit more beat up, depending upon environment. Stewart 634 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 2: an absolute pleasure, sir. I appreciated your questions and comments, 635 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: as I'm sure everyone else did. Have a great Thanksgiving 636 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 2: and for everyone else, have a great Thanksgiving till the 637 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 2: next time. I'm ron a Eni and the car doctor 638 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: reminding all of you good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. 639 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: See you