1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock that's our streaming partner. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Download the app if you haven't done so. First Hour 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: brought to you by Express Employment Professionals providing the workforce 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: you need and you can go to expresspros dot com 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: to find the location nearest to you. Expresspros dot Com 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: play the day, Pole question, stat of the Day, All 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: of that forthcoming eight seven to seven three DP. Show 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: operator Tyler is sitting by to take your calls. Let 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: me start with the Blue Jays closing out the Yankees. 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: The Tigers and Mariners are tied to two games apiece. 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: The Phillies are still alive as Kyle Schwarber had a 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: couple of home runs, and the Cubs over the Brewers, 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: which certainly makes for some interesting baseball coming up. Phillies 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: at the Dodgers and then the Brewers at the Cubs 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: tonight to compete with Eagles at the Giants. Seaton, would 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: you give us the poll question from the first hour? 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, First Hour, We're going to go with one from 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 3: PAULI here. Worst way to lose a playoff baseball game? 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: Got four options strikeout looking with men on bass, grounding 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: into a game ending double play, an error in the 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: field like a drop ball, something like that, or give 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: up the game winning home run as a pitcher. 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: Oh now, I'll reflect back on what Mitch Williams told 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: me when he gave up a home run that won 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: the World Series for Toronto. He gave up the home 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: run to Joe Carter, and he said, hey, you know, 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: it's not one of those that you're devastated by it 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: because I threw my best and he hit my best. 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: I at least got that moment, and I like it 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: was a completely different take than I would have had. 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 2: But he said, hey, you want to throw your best, 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: he hit my best and he was the better man 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: and they won the World Series. 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, like some of you know, grounding into a 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: game ending double play, I don't think that that's a 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: bad way at all. It sucks, but you put the 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: ball in play, you know, you make contact that just 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: didn't find the gap in the infield or whatever. But 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: I mean, at least you gave your team a chance. 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: That's a lot different than say like striking out looking 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: where you don't even swing like that is just terrible 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: or an error in the field is brutal. That's brutal, 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: and you lose the game that way, that is just awful. 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: And having been there when Bill Buckner had the ball 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: go through his legs and he talked about that, you know, 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: they win the World Series. Ball goes through his legs, 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: and you know that lives in infamy. All Right, we'll 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: settle on a poll question here. I did want to 51 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: bring the end the final call with the Yankees against 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays. Blue Jays have put up some runs. 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: The Blue Jays have scored thirty four runs so far 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. That's the most by any team through 55 00:02:47,360 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: its first four postseason games in baseball history. Let's gon 56 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: stat of today has always brought you by Panini America, 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: the official trading cards to the program. This is how 58 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: it sounded on the Blue Jays Radio network. 59 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: So one two, swinging aimn strike three, screaming flex from Hoffman. 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: The Blue Jays are. 61 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 4: Back in the ALCS for the first time since twenty sixteen. 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: They down the Yankees in their own yard, and they're. 63 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: The first team in Baseball's final four. 64 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: Okay, Blue Jays Radio Network Dave Simms, of course, is 65 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: the play by play voice for the Yankees Radio network. 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: He joined us a couple of days ago to talk 67 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: about maybe his lack of enthusiasm for a Vlad Guerrero 68 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: Grand slam. Fritzi called him out on that, so we thought, 69 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: let's juxtapose the two calls there. So here's Dave Simms 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: and the end of the Yankees season. 71 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 6: Just a Pitts swinging in a miss and that'll do it. 72 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 6: The Rattle Blue Jays going to the American League Championship Series, 73 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 6: which starts on Sunday, as Hoffman was a very defiant 74 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 6: look at the Yankee dugout now, very sad ending to 75 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 6: a Yankee season here in twenty twenty five. 76 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Todd, you, of course the big judge of Dave 77 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: simms enthusiasm or lack thereof a little. 78 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: Morbid I was gonna hoping he would take it with him. 79 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 5: How about that Blue Jays? He didn't do it. 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: That's all right, he did not. You don't are you 81 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: okay with that kind of you know, very somber call. 82 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 7: It ended the season, so I can wink at that, 83 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 7: but it's very very somber, and I guess you're trying 84 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 7: to capture your audience. The Yankee fans are upset and said, 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 7: so you have to be sad. 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: Okay, it understandable. 87 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 7: So a big moment for the Blue Jays and then 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 7: moving on to the Alcs that should be acknowledge even 89 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 7: as a Yankee. 90 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: You know, yes, Paul. 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 92 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 8: It wasn't a huge play like a game ending home 93 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 8: run by the Blue Jays where he had to do 94 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 8: the excitement and then bring it back down. It was 95 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 8: more and with all the men left on base, you 96 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 8: could feel the disappointment coming. So he captured the tone. 97 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: And I think that there was speculation. There wasn't anything 98 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: that was concrete that maybe Aaron Boone would lose his 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: job if they got swept and we had Christopher mad 100 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: Dog russo on. He goes, Nope, front office loves Boone, 101 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: loves Cashman. Cashman's been there in some capacity since nineteen 102 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: eighty six. But Aaron Boone looks like he'll survive even 103 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: though they got one win out of this. And you 104 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: have to start to wonder, are the Yankees okay with this? 105 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: From a certain standpoint? Are they okay that your team 106 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: is good? You have maybe the best player in the game, 107 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: you have a pretty hefty payroll, But are you okay 108 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: not going to the alcs? Like, how would you sum 109 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: this up? If you're a Yankee person in the front 110 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: office or Aaron Boone, Is there any part of you 111 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: that goes okay, like did you exceed X expectations? Because 112 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: I would be disappointed if I But you know, growing 113 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: up and seeing the Yankees, when the Yankees were truly 114 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: dominating and spending more money than anybody, But that's not 115 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: the case anymore. They've almost become kind of prudent, where 116 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna pick and choose, We're not going 117 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: to go crazy on the Sodo contract, and you know, 118 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: we've got a couple of good guys here. I mean, 119 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: they overpaid for a couple of plays. Are they still 120 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: paying Jacoby Elsbury? He might he might still be getting 121 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: paid by them, but it just feels like and they 122 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: didn't have Garrett Cole, so you got I mean, that's 123 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: one of the best pitchers in the game. But I 124 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: don't know, this wouldn't have happened. They wouldn't have you know, 125 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: been kind of stuck in neutral with George Steinbrenner. I 126 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: just can't imagine he would go, yeah, I'm Okay, with that, 127 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: they've won one World Series game since what twenty six, 128 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen? Yes, Todd, is that right, Marvin two thousand 129 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: and nine, oh, two thousand and nine. 130 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, the last time they won was against the Phillies 131 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 7: in two thousand and nine when they won the World six. 132 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm talking about winning a game ties. So 133 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: they won one World Series game that was last year? Yes, 134 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: yeahs yeah, okay, all right? Yes? 135 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 7: Is it enough of a band aid that they can 136 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 7: say they knocked out the Red Sox in the playoffs? 137 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 7: As far as who's keeping their jobs and having anything 138 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 7: positive to say about this season for the Yankee. 139 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: I don't think this was a great Red Sox team. 140 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: I think this Red Sox team felt like they overachieved 141 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: a little bit. But if I'm the Yankee Yankee fan, no, 142 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: this ain't about the Red Sox anymore. No, because that 143 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: Red Sox aren't the second best team or the or 144 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: the best team in the American League. You know, Toronto 145 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: is a young team and they got a lot of power, 146 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: score a lot of runs. You know, Tigers aren't going 147 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: away anytime soon. Uh, Seattle up and coming young team, 148 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: you know, so you got to start thinking bigger picture 149 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: here than Hey, we beat the Red Sox. That wouldn't 150 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: satisfy me. Yeah, Paul. 151 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 8: The Yankees are currently at sixteen street seasons without winning 152 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 8: a World Series, and that ties their longest stretch in 153 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 8: the history of the franchise. They went from seventy nine 154 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 8: till ninety six without winning, so sixteen years then as well. 155 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: And having been there when George would fire Billy Martin 156 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: a couple of times, he just didn't, you know, and 157 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: it was very reactionary. You know, you were never surprised 158 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: that George was going to do something like that. And granted, 159 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: there has to be somewhere in between of today's you 160 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: know Yankees back to when George was there, but still accountability. 161 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: And I'm not, you know, I guess, pleading for or 162 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: suggesting they fire Aaron Boone. I mean, I'm not a 163 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: big fan of his from the standpoint of analytics. And 164 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: here's a guy who played the game, brother played the game, 165 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: his dad played the games, dad managed, Like gut feeling 166 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: still has a place in the game, and it doesn't 167 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: always feel that way when I look at the Yankees. 168 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: But I'm just surprised. But then you're going to say, 169 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: or least I would say, all right, and who you 170 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: bringing in? Because how many great managers out there, and 171 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: Aaron Boone, I think is a very good manager. I 172 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: just don't like when you bring out the binder and 173 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: all of a sudden it's like you're ordering off a 174 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: menu or something. Yeah, Pauline, I went back and look 175 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: at the Blue Jays history. 176 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 8: They won the World Series in ninety two and ninety three, 177 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 8: and then they didn't appear in the postseason for twenty years. 178 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 8: Would you sign up for that if you're a fan. 179 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 2: Pickets in ninety two and ninety three. 180 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 8: I would like, if you're a Cleveland Guardians fan, you 181 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 8: can win the next two World Series and you don't 182 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 8: make the playoffs again for twenty years. 183 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: I would sign up for that. Yeah, you have to 184 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: write if I'm in Cleveland, yes the choice, Yes, yes, 185 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: yes I would. I mean the Marlin fans they did 186 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: that twice where you okay, you're gonna win, and then 187 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: you're not gonna do anything, and then you'll win again 188 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: and then not do anything. Yeah, Marvin Marlin's got fans. 189 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, wow. All right, So eight seven seven three 190 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: DP show A few things talk about we'll talk to 191 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: Florio about this Belichick situation in North Carolina. And when 192 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: you have to put out statements, you know that, Hey, 193 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: we totally backed Bill Bellie, Like, we're what five games 194 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: in and we're putting out statements. That doesn't bode well here, 195 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: And I think what's happened. A lot of this has happened, 196 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 2: and that is we're blaming his young girlfriend. She gets, 197 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: you know, like, oh my gosh, you know, how does 198 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: he let this happen? Exactly? Bill never had messes in 199 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: New England. Never he controlled everything, and now it seems 200 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: like he controls nothing. So I put the blame is 201 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: on Bill. Bill has to get this right. And everything 202 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: that you're hearing is like it's all negative. Now, granted 203 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: they do have two wins. It's just they've been blown 204 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: out three times and the two wins aren't impressive. But 205 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: if you didn't have all this drama, and let's say 206 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: you had a groundswell of support, the locker room wasn't fractured. Guys, 207 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: are you know there's positive positivity out there? Hey that 208 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: guy looks pretty good. Hey we got a bright future here. Well, 209 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: you don't have any of that. And if you're a 210 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: recruit or you're the parents of a recruit, you want 211 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: your kid going to North Carolina, and North Carolina has 212 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: never had a problem with getting top talent. Never. Every 213 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: single draft, it feels like, oh, another player at in 214 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 2: North Carolina. This is on Bill. Bill's gonna wear this 215 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: and this will be his last up. I can't imagine 216 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: the Dolphins are gonna go, hey, when we get rid 217 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: of Mike McDaniel, why don't you just come down here 218 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: and break down schules all time victory record. I don't 219 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: see that happening. But man, there's a lot of reporting 220 00:11:55,160 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: going on with this with Belichick North Carolina. But you know, 221 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: the owners should not be on his girlfriend. Okay, I 222 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: mean she's acting like she's twenty four years of age. 223 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: She's acting like she's in charge. Bill has allowed this 224 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: to happen. He allowed this to happen. 225 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 9: Now. 226 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: I can't imagine if he was coaching the Patriots, she 227 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: would be on the sidelines. I can't imagine that she 228 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: would be involved in an inner like this does never happened. 229 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: So it's not just her and I think she's getting 230 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: she's the focal point because we all have this, you know, 231 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: same reaction of he's seventy three and she's twenty four. 232 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: But that's why I wonder where his priorities are. I 233 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: truly do. I don't know if he wants to continue 234 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: to be, you know, this mastermind, this great football coach. 235 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: It just feels like something is missing there, like his 236 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: enthusiasm doesn't seem like it's pointed towards football. And everybody 237 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: that he hired. His son is his defensive coordinator. He 238 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: brought in Mike Lombardi. I mean, he brought in all 239 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: the people. And plus when you recruit, he recruited, so 240 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: you bring in freshman and you bring in transfers. So 241 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: those are players that Bill is bringing in. Seventy players 242 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: he brought in, not I'm going to inherit Mac Brown's roster. 243 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: If you said in North Carolina, hey you want to 244 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: do over, you want to keep mac Brown? I think 245 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: we know the answer to that. All right, we'll get 246 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: to pull questions, we'll get your phone calls, and we'll 247 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: talk to Florio coming up. Also the Cincinnati Bengals. You 248 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 2: know when that or I should say, the Browns when 249 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: the head coach doesn't realize that Joe Flacco is going 250 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: to be traded. I don't know what that says about 251 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, but he was like, I'm surprised we traded 252 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: Joe all right, Andrew Berry, the GM pulled the trade off, 253 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: and then your head coach is like, Okay, I'm fine 254 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: with it. I'm fine with it, and you got Flacco 255 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: playing against the Green Bay Packers again. He can be 256 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: the second quarterback in NFL history pro football history to 257 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: beat the same team in the same season while playing 258 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: for two different teams. I'll give you the answer to 259 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: that after this Dan Patrick Show. 260 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 261 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 262 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 263 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: He's Mike Krman, I'm Dan Bayern. We have a brand 264 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: new fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. Twice 265 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: a week, every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with 266 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 4: new episodes to not only look back at what happened, 267 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: what you need to do at that minute, and also 268 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: look ahead of what's coming up in the fantasy football world. 269 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: That's right, Dan. 270 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 10: Every week we're going to scour the waiver wire to 271 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 10: find the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup, six starts, 272 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 10: fantasy football players rankings. To get you ready to dominate 273 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 10: the competition, listen. 274 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: To I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmon and Met 275 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 4: Dan Byer on the iHeartRadio app podcast and Wherever you 276 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: Beat your podcasts. 277 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: Before the commercial break, I said that Joe Flacco could 278 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: become just the second quarterback since nineteen fifty to start 279 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: and win a game against the same opponent on two 280 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: different teams in a single season. The only other quarterback 281 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: to do it did it in nineteen sixty two. This 282 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: is really tough, so I don't know if I mean, 283 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: you'd have to be a really really big fan of 284 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: this football team or this quarterback, because the only other 285 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: quarterback to do that was Jack Kemp. He beat the 286 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: Titans as a member of the Chargers and the Bills. 287 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: That was nineteen sixty two. Stat of the Day stat 288 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: of the Day that best s Oat of the day 289 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: stat of the Day. 290 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: It comes that what stat of the Day? 291 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, 292 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: the official trading car The Dan Patrick Show. 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Good morning, Mike, how are 299 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: you great? 300 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: Dan? 301 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 5: Full disclosure, I had no idea the answer to that 302 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 5: awesome stat of the day. 303 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: What does it say about the Browns and Kevin Stefanski 304 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: that he had no idea that his backup quarterback was 305 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: traded to the Bengals. 306 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: I'm surprised he said it out loud because I feel 307 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 5: like so much of what happens in Cleveland, they understand 308 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 5: that in order to hold these jobs, they are at 309 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 5: the whims of whatever the owner decides to do. And 310 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: I think the owner has created destruction. Now this is 311 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: just my opinion. I think he's created a structure where 312 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 5: it looks like there's a plan, it looks like there's 313 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 5: a program, it looks like there's a formula for everything. 314 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, it's just what 315 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 5: the owner wants. And I think everyone's in tune with 316 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 5: figuring out what the owner wants, and when the owner 317 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 5: wants something, it happens, so doesn't surprise me at all. 318 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 5: It doesn't surprise me. They traded him, I mean, they 319 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 5: benched him, They saved some money, they upgrade a draft pick, 320 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 5: and they move on from a guy that no longer 321 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 5: fit into their plan. So they got something out of him. 322 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 5: They have to be happy with this, all right. 323 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: Given all the coverage with Belichick with North Carolina, what's 324 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: your number one question about this situation today? 325 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 5: How much money changes hands? And in which direction does 326 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 5: it go when it finally ends. I feel like that's 327 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 5: where this is headed. And those companion statements that came 328 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 5: out at nine thirty six pm Eastern last night, Like 329 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 5: if you hadn't been paying attention to all the reports 330 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 5: that are out there, and you just happened to open 331 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 5: your Twitter and you're a North Carolina fan and you 332 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 5: see that the next post since the one about Drake 333 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 5: May that they were shamed into making on Monday, is 334 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 5: this statement that Bill Belichick's committed to the team, and 335 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 5: then the statement from Bubba Cunningham the ad team is 336 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 5: committed to him. It's like, why are we doing this? 337 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: It just legitimizes that there's this avalanche right now of 338 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 5: reporting that they've made no effort to push back against 339 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 5: of dysfunction and deterioration and just flat out disintegration of 340 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 5: the program. And I feel like that this is just 341 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 5: the idea of if I'm going to go, you're going 342 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 5: to pay me to go, And from the team's perspective, 343 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 5: if you're going to go, we're not going to pay you. 344 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 5: And maybe you're going to pay part of your one 345 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 5: million dollar price tag to get out of here. And 346 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 5: they're just it feels like they're staking out what the 347 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 5: endgame and the dissolution of this is going to be. 348 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: Hell damaged? Is his NFL reputation. 349 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 5: I don't think it affects anything he's done in the NFL, 350 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 5: I think. 351 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: But future employment, Oh. 352 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 5: Well, let me just add this caveat in advance. We 353 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: know that there are plenty of teams in the NFL 354 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 5: that don't know what the hell they're doing, and it 355 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 5: all comes from the owner. Dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things, 356 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 5: as our friend Big Kat says, And I can't rule 357 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 5: out an owner of a team that is chronically bad 358 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 5: and they've got a revolving door at the coaching position 359 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: saying what the hell? Nothing else we've tried, has worked, 360 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 5: Let's give it a shot. But here's the problem. How 361 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 5: do you sell this Bill Belichick to a fan base 362 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 5: and to the media that cover the team. Who's going 363 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: to renew season tickets when they find out that this 364 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 5: Bill Belichick is coming in to take over. I think 365 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 5: that's the hardest thing. From a football standpoint, what the hell, 366 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 5: maybe he can recapture some magic. From a business standpoint, 367 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 5: I don't know how you help your bottom line by 368 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 5: trotting out Bill Belichick post North Carolina. 369 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: But could you see a scenario where the Dolphins bring 370 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: him in if they fire Mike McDaniel, even though he 371 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: would be trying to pass Don Shula's record in the 372 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 2: all time victory list while being a Dolphins coach in 373 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: the process. 374 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 5: I think that's a practical impediment to getting the fans 375 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 5: to buy in. That's the key. These guys. They act 376 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 5: like they're obsessed with winning the Super Bowl. All we 377 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 5: want to do is win the Super Bowl. We want 378 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 5: to win the Super Bowl. Well, you know what, only 379 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 5: one team wins it, but they all win at the 380 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 5: bank vault. And if you are going to make a 381 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 5: hire that sabotages your ability to fill your stadium. You're 382 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 5: just asking for red ink in a business where there 383 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 5: should be none. So I think that is the one 384 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 5: factor that we need to keep in mind here. He 385 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: will be received very differently wherever he would go next 386 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 5: in the NFL than he would have been two years ago. Now, 387 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 5: I won't rule out that there's some owner that's going 388 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 5: to decide I don't care, this is what I want 389 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: to do, but I don't know who it would be. 390 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 5: And I think that whole Don Shula Bill Belichick feud 391 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 5: would be a factor against him going to Miami. 392 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: But it feels like Mike McDaniel's are already done in Miami. 393 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 5: Oh, I agree with you. I agree with you, But 394 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 5: that doesn't mean the replacement's going to be Bill Belichick. 395 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 5: They need to find a middle ground between the Brian 396 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 5: Flores Belichick type that couldn't get along with Tuatogo I 397 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 5: Lowe and it was kind of a hard charging task 398 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 5: master and Mike McDaniel, who's everybody's buddy and he's just 399 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 5: really chill and he's authentic. Authentic works until you're piling 400 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: up losses and you see this guy who seems to 401 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 5: be unaffected by the fact that they're piling up losses, 402 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 5: so they need to find someone in the middle. But 403 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 5: this is what dysfunctional teams do. It doesn't work out 404 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 5: with one coach, so the next guy we hire is 405 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 5: the exact opposite from a personality standpoint, and they just 406 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 5: swing back and forth between those two types. 407 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for flipping somebody off 408 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: for Jerry Jones. I'm always curious if the commissioner has 409 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: a book, you know, like he just goes over, opens 410 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: his desk and goes, let me see you got that 411 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: flipping off fans two hundred and fifty Like, how do 412 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: they come up up with two hundred and fifty thousand 413 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: dollars for Jerry Jones. 414 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 5: Well, sixteen years ago Bud Adams, the late founder of 415 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 5: the Oilers who were then the Titans, he got fined 416 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for two of them. 417 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 5: So I don't know if it's inflation cost of living increase. 418 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 5: But Dan, here's my big takeaway. Beyond the fact that 419 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 5: Jerry had the ridiculous I meant to give a thumbs up, 420 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 5: and you know, my hand has a life of its own, 421 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 5: a mind of his own, and I gave the figure. 422 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 5: But I think Jerry should say, you know what, next time, 423 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 5: I'll just throw a drink on them, because that only 424 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 5: costs three hundred thousand dollars when David Tepper did it, 425 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 5: that's a bargain in comparison. If I really, if I'm 426 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 5: really upset, I'll just throw the drink and pay the 427 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 5: extra fifty grand. 428 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: Dang two hundred and fifty K. And then did the 429 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: team Jonathan Gannon got fined. Did the team do it 430 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: or the NFL? 431 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 5: The team did it, and the NFL was satisfied by it. 432 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: And you know a lot of times what happens isn't 433 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 5: they don't come out and admit it. The league makes 434 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 5: it clear to the team, you need to do something 435 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 5: about this, or we will. I think it was appropriate. 436 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 5: He crossed the line. We're in an age where you 437 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 5: can't put hands on your players, and he made contact 438 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 5: with MRI D Marcato multiple times, including kind of an 439 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 5: aggressive slap to the arm as he walked away, So 440 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 5: I think it was appropriate. The real question is does 441 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 5: the locker room accept his apology, Do they buy it? 442 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 5: Did it seem sincere or was it a hostage video 443 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 5: type of an apology that he had to make, and 444 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 5: we'll see as soon as this weekend when it's time 445 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: for them to play, we'll see what kind of performance 446 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 5: he gets from his players. 447 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: So that Jerry Jones's middle finger is two and a 448 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: half times worse than Jonathan Gannon's action correct. 449 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: Well, again, I don't know where the book is that 450 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 5: tells them what to do. And we always hear that 451 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 5: owners are held to a higher standard than players, and 452 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 5: sometimes they are. Jerry Judy of the Browns did the 453 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 5: double barrel middle finger to Ravens fans and his fine 454 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 5: was somewhere between ten and twenty thousand for that. So 455 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 5: in this situation, they hold the owners to a higher standard. 456 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 5: So I don't know. I just wonder like if Jonathan 457 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 5: Gannon had messed with the wrong guy and we would 458 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 5: have had a Latrell Spreewell situation on the sideline. I mean, 459 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 5: that's the problem. There are certain guys in the NFL 460 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 5: who aren't going to take what Mriid Morcado received from 461 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon. So I think it's probably wise for coaches 462 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 5: to not lay hands on these gladiators who are out 463 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: there hitting people for a living. 464 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking to Mike Florio and his novel Big Shield. 465 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: It's about gambling, the mob, and a pro football league 466 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: that is not the NFL. The e book available at 467 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: Amazon for only ninety nine cents. You know. The mac 468 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: Jones situation now, it's not surprising for me because Kyle 469 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: Shanahan didn't like him going into that draft, and then 470 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: you get him, even though they don't have weapons. He's 471 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: played really well. I don't want to go as far 472 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: as to say do they have a quarterback controversy? But 473 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: if mac Jones plays great again, I think six touchdowns 474 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: in one interception, you know, could this be a quarterback controversy? 475 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 5: Here's the big picture, and the forty nine ers were 476 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: very wise dan to sign mac Jones, not to a 477 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 5: one year deal like they did with Sam Darnold, two 478 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 5: years with mac Jones at around eight million dollars. The 479 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 5: way that the brock Party contract that was negotiated in 480 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 5: the offseason is structured two years is what Purdy is 481 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 5: guaranteed and the forty nine ers have, and they build 482 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 5: this into all their contracts. A lot of teams, the 483 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 5: next year becomes guaranteed right after the league year begins. 484 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 5: In the middle of March. The forty nine ers always 485 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 5: demand until April one to make a decision, So they 486 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 5: have until April one of twenty twenty seven to make 487 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 5: a decision about brock Purty. After the twenty six season, Well, 488 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 5: there's a lot of football to be played between now 489 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 5: and the end of the twenty twenty six season. By then, 490 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 5: you know, a lot of times you think you have 491 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 5: a problem, you have an issue. What are we going 492 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 5: to do? The decision reveals itself in time. By the 493 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 5: time we get to the end of the twenty twenty 494 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 5: six season, I think will know and they'll know which 495 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 5: of the two guys is the long term play, and 496 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 5: they'll have a seamless way if they want to do it, 497 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 5: to pivot to mac Jones and get away from the 498 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 5: remainder of brock Purty's contract. That's the key. So for now, 499 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 5: they got both guys for the next two years, and 500 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 5: then they'll make a decision, and you know it'll be 501 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: driven by health. Between now and then, they can always 502 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: play the one hundred percent card, where brock Purty plays 503 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 5: only if he's one hundred percent, Well, is he one 504 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 5: hundred percent? No, I've decided he's not we're gonna play 505 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: Mac Jones. But hey, in a league where plenty of 506 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 5: teams don't have one quarterback who can get it done, 507 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 5: they're fortunate to have two. And I know they've had 508 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 5: plenty of misadventures at the quarterback position, but they're in 509 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 5: a good spot right now because they've got two guys 510 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 5: who can play. And I think we see how it 511 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 5: plays out between now and week eighteen and twenty twenty six, 512 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 5: and I think by then they'll know and will know 513 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 5: which of the two guys is the answer for. 514 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: The long haul. Is John Harbaugh safe in Baltimore? 515 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 5: Probably not. And it's been a long relationship, and you know, 516 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 5: he falls into that category of guy who would get 517 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 5: fired if he gets fired, or if he would resign, 518 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 5: or if it would be a mutual parting, and he'd 519 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 5: probably lands somewhere else right away if he wanted to, 520 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 5: like Andy Reid did, like Mike Tomlin. Would you know, 521 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 5: there's that thirty percent chunk of the Steelers fan base 522 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 5: that is ready to fire Mike Tomlin anytime they lose 523 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 5: two games in a row. There have been times over 524 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 5: the years where it's felt like it's coming to an end. 525 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 5: Between the Ravens and Harball, and it's always skewed toward 526 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 5: him staying. This has got to be the biggest test 527 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 5: of the relationship between the front office and Harball that 528 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 5: we've ever seen. As the roster disintegrates, the team can't win. 529 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 5: They got embarrassed at home by the Texans over the weekend, 530 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 5: a team that had never won in Baltimore went in 531 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 5: there and blew them out. So there's gonna be a 532 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 5: lot of pressure in that owner coach relationship with the 533 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 5: GM kind of caught in the middle. What's going to 534 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 5: happen after this season? So I think there's a very 535 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 5: real chance based on what we've seen through five weeks, 536 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 5: then a mutual parting is what happens when the season ends. 537 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: Because it seems like we've focused on Mike Tomlin's tenure 538 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh and here they are just kind of quiet. Now. 539 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: You know, they can't control what the other teams do 540 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: or don't do in the injuries, but you know, I 541 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: thought this might be the last year for Tomlin in 542 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and maybe Aaron Rodgers, like they were all in 543 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: together for this one year and then Aaron would go 544 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: on his way and Mike Tomlin would go into TV. 545 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: But here they are leading the division and we have 546 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: no other reason to think that they won't be there 547 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: at the very end of the season. 548 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 5: The last two weeks had been incredible for the Steelers. 549 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 5: They beat the Vikings in Ireland and the rest of 550 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: the division has gone a combined ohen six. So here 551 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 5: they are and the Bengals they're done. The Ravens seem 552 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 5: to be done. And this is just a reminder. And look, 553 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 5: I don't I don't want to complain about the business 554 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 5: that we've chosen, but we spend the off season talking 555 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 5: about how the next season it's going to go. With 556 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 5: this assumption that everyone's gonna stay healthy. We know guys 557 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 5: are going to get injured. It's bad for him to say, well, 558 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 5: this guy could get injured, that guy can get injured, 559 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 5: but we know it's gonna happen. Five weeks to the 560 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 5: day since the regular season began, the Ravens and the 561 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 5: Bengals have been decimated. For the Bengals, all it took 562 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 5: was one guy. For the Ravens. It's a bunch of guys, 563 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 5: but it changes everything. And here are the Steelers at 564 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 5: three and one and they're sitting pretty and it's working. 565 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 5: They finally had a game where both the offense and 566 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 5: the defense showed up at the same time and they 567 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 5: got that win. They stole one from the Patriots. They 568 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 5: shouldn't have won. But here they are, and yeah, that's 569 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 5: you know, as a wise man once said, they sweaty 570 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 5: played a games and that's part of the fun of it. 571 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: Because right now, Dan, who's the best team in the AFC? 572 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 5: I really don't know the answer to that question. 573 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: Is there a chance that Deshaun Watson plays again. 574 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 5: Well for the Browns this year? Probably not. There's a 575 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 5: subtext where he's trying to get healthy and at some 576 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 5: point he shows up with a doctor's slip saying this 577 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 5: man is clear to play football, and the Browns have 578 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 5: to make a decision. They're not going to cut him 579 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: because that would trigger a one hundred and thirty five 580 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: million dollar dead cap charge next year. They're trying to 581 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 5: ride out this contract because they've structured it so the 582 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 5: bigger cap hits come later when the cap is higher. 583 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 5: But but the other thing to keep in mind, there's 584 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 5: an insurance policy that covers him for this year if 585 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 5: he plays. That insurance policy becomes jeopardized. I don't know 586 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 5: how much they would lose by way of the money 587 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 5: they get for the insurance they had against injury. It 588 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 5: gets a little complicated. I think they'd like to finesse it. 589 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 5: So he's on the team and he's around, but he's 590 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 5: not on the roster, and we'll see if it comes 591 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 5: to that. But there's other business issues that go into 592 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 5: this calculation. But at this point, I don't think there's 593 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 5: any Browns fan that is curious to see what Deshaun 594 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 5: Watson can do on the football field. They're ready to 595 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 5: move on from him, but the reality is he's most 596 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 5: likely going to be on the team through twenty twenty six. 597 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: Have you ever done a list of the worst decisions 598 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: made in NFL? Like if I said the Browns moved 599 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: on from Baker Mayfield and now he's an MVP candidate 600 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: in Tampa and then you go all in and sign 601 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: to Shaun Watson. Has there been a decision that has 602 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: been worse than that in NFL history? 603 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 5: No? No, And I've said before without the Baker Mayfield angle, 604 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 5: the Deshaun Watson contract and trade is the single worst 605 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 5: transaction in NFL history because it's the combination of and 606 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 5: we get caught up in the money two hundred and 607 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 5: thirty million, fully guaranteed. It's easy to lose sight of 608 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 5: the three first round picks and multiple other picks that 609 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 5: were sent to Houston. Those are affordable young players who 610 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 5: become the nucleus of your team if you use the 611 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 5: picks right. They've lost all those guys, and so the 612 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 5: fact that they're even able to win a game, the 613 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 5: fact that they went to the playoffs two years ago 614 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 5: is remarkable given what they gave up to get Deshaun Watson. 615 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 5: So they gave up a lot, they've paid him a lot, 616 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 5: they've got nothing in return. Yes, I believe firmly that 617 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 5: that if there was a list, I don't know what 618 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 5: number two would be, but number one would be the 619 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson acquisition by the Browns. 620 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: But what about the Herschel Walker trade? 621 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 5: That would be that's probably number two, right, number two, right, number. 622 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: Two, Ricky Williams with the Saints. Is that up. They 623 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: gave up all their draft picks and Mike Dickett wanted 624 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: to go play golf, and so take. 625 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 5: That that's in there, that's in there now now. Back 626 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 5: in those days, again, the draft picks made a lot 627 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 5: more money relative to what they make. 628 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: Now. 629 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 5: The important thing to remember now, since twenty eleven, they 630 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 5: have configured the rookie pay system so that those guys 631 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 5: are cheap and you have them for four years. If 632 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 5: it's a first round pick, you have them for five years. 633 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 5: And that's how you manage a team where you pay 634 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 5: a few guys market value. The guts of your team 635 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 5: are these young guys that you have gotten for peanuts 636 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 5: in comparison to what it cost to get a veteran. 637 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: Great stuff is always Mike, have a great weekend. Thanks 638 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: for joining us, buddy. 639 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 5: Thanks Dan, good talking to you. 640 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: Mike Florio. Pro Football Talk, That's the show that precedes hours, 641 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: and his website Pro Football Talk must read every single morning. 642 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: His latest novel, Big Shield, is available ebook at Amazon 643 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: for only ninety nine cents. We'll take a break. Our 644 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: play of the day is up next to them. Your 645 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: phone calls right after this. 646 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 647 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 648 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 649 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: listen live. 650 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: Oh my God, the play of the day. 651 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: This is the Play of the day. 652 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 10: Check this out. 653 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: He's from the right side. 654 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 9: That ball's groun steep to right field. Hernandez doesn't even move. 655 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: It is long gone. 656 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 9: It's off the roof for the pavilion in right field. 657 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 9: Kyle Schwarber his first postseason home run of the year. 658 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 9: It's his twenty second of his career, and with a 659 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 9: lightning strike, the Phillies. 660 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: Tie it up in one. 661 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: Courtesy of the Phillies Radio Network, Schwarber hit two bombs. 662 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 2: That one went four hundred and fifty five feet, the 663 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: longest home run of the postseason, and he is just 664 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 2: the second player to clear the right field pavilion in 665 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: Dodgers Stadium. Willie Stargell did it twice. So Schwarber now 666 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: twenty three career postseason home runs. That's third most all time. 667 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: And they needed it. A terrible outing for Clayton Kershaw 668 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: there and the Phillies are still in. This Play of 669 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: the Day brought to you by Tire Rack for over 670 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: forty years. They've been doing it helping us get the 671 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: right tires for how and what and where we drive. 672 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: Ship fast and free back by free road hazard protection, 673 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: convenient installation options like mobile tire installation tirerack dot Com. 674 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be Joe and Sacramento. Hi, Joe, 675 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 2: what do you have for me today? 676 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: What's going on? 677 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 5: Dan? 678 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 11: First time, long time five eleven, one seventy five. I 679 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 11: just wanted to call to talk about the Dodgers game 680 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 11: last night. I'm a longtime Dodgers fan, and I just 681 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 11: felt like it was super disrespectful for Dave Roberts to 682 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 11: bring Kershaw back out in the eighth inning and really 683 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 11: just kind of have him fall on the sword for 684 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 11: the game. You know, he didn't really have the cleanest 685 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 11: seventh inning, he didn't even record a strikeout. He got 686 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 11: out of that pretty much scotch free. But the fact 687 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 11: that he brought him back in the eighth inning, We're 688 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 11: only down two runs, Suarez was coming out of the game, 689 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,479 Speaker 11: We had our heart of the order thinning. It really 690 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 11: just felt like Roberts was playing for today, essentially for 691 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 11: the next game, and it was just one of those 692 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 11: things where you know, Kurt Thaws, this is his last season. 693 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 11: He had a great outing against the Giants in his 694 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 11: last start at home, and you just hope that this 695 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 11: isn't the last time that we see Clayton Kershaw pitch 696 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 11: at Dodger Stadium. 697 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: Well, and Joe, look, I understand your fandom, but I 698 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: can't be worried about Clayton's feelings. He didn't have it. 699 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 2: I don't like him coming in in relief. I think 700 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: it's a different mindset when you come in in relief 701 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: as opposed to when you start a game. But I 702 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 2: hope that's not the last time we see him either. 703 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: But you know, it goes back to I and I 704 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: told you about this over the summer when I ran 705 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 2: into somebody who was part of the Astros organization and 706 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 2: he told me that they were picking up Clayton Kershaw's pitches. 707 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: He was tipping. By how he put his hand in 708 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: his glove, they knew that it was either going to 709 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 2: be curveball or is going to be a fastball. And 710 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 2: now he could have been saying that, just say, hey, 711 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: we didn't cheat, you know, using garbage cans or anything. 712 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 2: He did acknowledge that they did do that, but he 713 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 2: said we were Clayton was tipping his pitches. I'm assuming 714 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: that that has been remedy. But man, if you're going 715 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: to tell me that Schwarber didn't know what was coming. 716 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: I would be surprised, because when you sit on a 717 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: pitch like that, you know what's coming. Larry in Austin, Hi, Larry, 718 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 2: what's on your mind? 719 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 12: Well, then, since the previous caller stole my thunder, let 720 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 12: me just switch to plan be a couple of weeks 721 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 12: ago or you you guys were talking about sports nicknames, 722 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 12: and I just liked to throw in my personal favorite, 723 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 12: and that's Mike Hargro who played for and managed Cleveland. 724 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 12: When he played, he was known as the human reign Delay. 725 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 12: And I think that's a pretty good nickname. 726 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, Larry. Yeah, because he took forever when he 727 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: was in the box. That's when you know. That was 728 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 2: before guys were you know, stepping in or stepping out 729 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 2: and adjusting her gloves and all that. He just took forever. Yeah. 730 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: That guy kind of sound like Jerry West. Oh boy 731 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 3: wo like the tone of his voice. 732 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: He had a little bit of that in there, all right. 733 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 10: Uh. 734 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: Monica in Raleigh, Hi Monica, what's on your mind today? 735 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 13: Hi? Dana Danettes love to see five three, one thirty 736 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 13: five second time, long time. I just wanted to comment 737 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 13: on Bill Belichick and chime in on that man, We're 738 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 13: just ready for basketball season. As a Carolina fan, I was. 739 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 13: I was sitting in Airport Chili's in Dallas and watching 740 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 13: the Clemson game and it was forty three to ten, 741 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 13: and then the last quarter, with one minute left, he 742 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 13: called two timeouts and they had to switch coverage. It 743 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 13: was insane. And then also the comment with Mike Florio's 744 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 13: interview about him going to the Dolphins. We tried that 745 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 13: with Nick Saban. I'm also a Dolphins fan, so I 746 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 13: don't care for that either. I just want he needs 747 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 13: to just go retire on your laurels with the good 748 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 13: team that you. 749 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 2: Had and that Monica, would you be fine if North 750 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: Carolina did become a football school instead of a Bandol Absolutely. 751 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 13: I would love to be a Texas university or in 752 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 13: Alabama or one of those relevant schools that has relevant 753 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 13: programs in both. However, North Carolina, pernally is the wine 754 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 13: and cheese crowd. So we get backtball. 755 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: Thank you, Monica. At least to have a great disposition. Uh. 756 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 2: Bucky in Illinois, Hi, Bucky. 757 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 11: Hey, Hey, good morning, Dan. 758 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: I was I was needing your help. 759 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 10: I'm needing I'm wanting to start a rumor. 760 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 11: In that rumor b the Yankees wipe away don Maddingly 761 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 11: and he's the new Yankee head coach. 762 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: Hopefully that could help get that man into the Hall 763 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,479 Speaker 2: of Fame. 764 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 11: We all know know he deserves it. 765 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 12: But yeah, I just kind of wanted to get your 766 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 12: thoughts on that, all right, is. 767 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: Is Donnie still with the Blue Jays as a hitting 768 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 2: coach or bench coach? I think that sounds right. Yes, 769 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: he's still with the Blue Jays, Okay, I'd like for 770 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: him to. Yeah, I think there was the thought of 771 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 2: that a while ago, and then he didn't get the job. 772 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 2: He had the Marlins job and the Dodgers job. But 773 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if those days are gone for him. 774 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if he wants to do that or 775 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: if he'd even get the opportunity with the Yankees. Yes, Marvin, 776 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: if Maddalie won a World Series, is he in the 777 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame? It'd be I think now. I think 778 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 2: it would be close. If he was there that last year, 779 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: that first year they won the World Series, and then 780 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 2: he had retired, and if he played a role, a 781 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 2: large role in that, then yes, they might be might be. 782 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 2: And having been there in New York to witness that. 783 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: I mean, he was a great player, great great fielder 784 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 2: as well. When it used to matter when we'd bring 785 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 2: up those things that he was a really good fielder 786 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: as well. But man, I could hit coming up next 787 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 2: to our Ross Tucker and get us ready for the 788 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: Eagles in Giants Thursday Night Football